>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use cases.State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC>CPUWeb browsing: 12100, 5600GGaming: 12400F, 7600, 7800X3DWorkstation: 12700K, 7900X, 7950XWARNING 13th/14th gen owners: Update your bios for the latest 0x129 microcode to prevent degradation>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge/Arctic Liquid Freezer IIIDouble towers: ID-Cooling FROZN A620 PRO SE, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SEITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67>MOTHERBOARDAM5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57X2FygcqLE [Embed] [Embed]>RAMDDR4: 2x16GB 3200CL16. Budget, 2x8GBDDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB or 2x48GB>SSD (OS drive)Low mid end: SN770Premium: SN850X, P41Flagship: Sabrent Rocket 5>GPU1080p: RTX 4070 Super, RX 7700 XT, RX 6750 XT1440p: RTX 4070 Ti Super, RX 7800 XT, RX 7900 GRE4K: RTX 4090, RTX 4080 Super, RX 7900XTXWorkstation: RTX 4000 Series>CASE (from $ to $$$)mATX: Montech Air 100, Lian Li A3, Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li O11 Air MiniATX: Phanteks XT PRO(ULTRA), Montech AIR 903 Base/MAX, Antec C5, Lian Li Lancool 216/IIIAVOID: 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, 4000D airflow>PSUBudget: Gold rated 500-600W PSUMid range: ATX 3.0 compliant fully modular gold rated PSU @ 75% max loadHigh end: Seasonic PRIME TXAVOID: GAMEMAXPSU buying guide:https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/ (updated Q3 2024)>MONITORStandout:1080p: MSI G244F E21440p: ASRock PG27QFT2A, Dell G2724D2160p: Gigabyte M27/28/32Uhttps://pcpartpicker.com/list/tBTGQP>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansBudget: Arctic P12/P14 Max (5-pack)High end: Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM, NF-A14x25r G2 PWMPrevious: >>101996710
OP being a faggot and parroting misinformation again and again.>CPUWeb browsing: 5600GGaming: 7600, 7800X3DWorkstation: 7900X, 7950XAvoid 12th/13th/14th gen Intel.WARNING 12th/13th/14th gen owners: Use a contact frame and manually undervolt to prevent further degradation. New BIOS does NOT fix the overvolting.
>/tcbg/ - tranime computer building general
3600mhz cl18 is better and the same price as 3200mhz cl16, for every single ryzen, why is OP a fag
>>102004727it's for intel noobs who can't raise SA voltageIf you're on am4 you probably already have your ram tuned to 3800-4000 with tight timings
>>102004727Why use 3600cl18 when you can use 3800cl16?
Should I get a 7800x3d and a 4070 super? or is it better to save money on the CPU and get a 7600 and upgrade to a 4070 super Ti. I can't get both because it's over my budget. For reference I will mainly be using the the PC for 1440p gaming and will probably upgrade to a 5000 series GPU in a few years anyway
>>102004812get 7600 now and 11800x3d in a couple years for maximum gaming
>>102004708>>>/r/ayymd
Do I dare buy it?
>>10200489824 core am5 cpus won't be out for at least 2 years
>>102004673whats the best computer i can buy for $1500?
>>102004898Ok nevermindI just checked the M2 routing and it sucksMight as well stick with muh b650 steel legend wifi
Anons, Im planning on buying an Ap201 case. Can I vertical mount my gpu (6700xt) in it? Do I need a specific stand?
>>102004949Depends, what are you going to use it for?
I need a 32" 2K monitor, but it looks like all monitors are shit.
>>102004898>asuslmao
>>102004976Stop overthinking it. It's easy to convince yourself, reading these threads, that everything but the latest 4k 900Hz QD-AMWAOLED is hot garbage but the truth is more mundane: Cheap monitors have compromises. Just like anything else. You can either work around them or increase your budget.
Is this a good 1440p gaming setup that will ideally last for the next 5 years without any need for upgrades? https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/fRsNKX
if nvme doesn't matter much for gaming why do I see people recommend it so much over sata, and companies using it to market over sata?
holy shit just compiled tkg-bmq kernel and it's 30% faster in unigine heaven
I dont wanna be a vramlet anymore
>>102004972gaming and ai
>>102005125It has some minor non-performance advantages and costs the same or less so no reason not to.
>>102005180basic 7600/b650 build with the fattest gpu you can afford
>>102005035??
>>102005124It's decent but somewhat under-optimized.I cut it down by $200 here: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/wyXQXkEnough to get you up to a 4070TiS or 7800X3D depending on the games you prefer.
>>102004859>New BIOS does NOT fix the overvoltingRefute this
>>102005173then get 128gb of vram
it's over radeon sister, game now have built in AI
>>102005252No I agree with you thereBut you're just muddying the waters by including 12th gen in the disclaimer and inserting the unrelated issue of bending
>>102004812What's your current build? if it's literally any am4 motherboard just get 5800x3d and wait for am6
I am the shillI am the one spreading misinformationI am the one that makes sure these threads can not have serious discussionI am the crab keeping you all in the bucket.
>discussionWho cares.I'm just here to RIS all the funny pages like it's another OPT.
>>102005193not sure what that is
>>102005362oh wait I thought this was [spoiler]isekai[/spoiler] threadbut actually replace pages with photos and it still applies
What should I do if I've been using a 5900X I got for 100 bucks less than a 5800X3D was at the time 2 years ago but still really want vcache now? Sidegrading and trying to sell my 5900X seems like a gamble and kind of silly at this point. But after all this time I really know I don't need all these split up cores...
>>102005408get the 9800x3d in 2 monthsthe 7800x3d is already way faster than the 5800x3d and 5700x3d and the 9800x3d will be even better
>>102004756Because my 5800x3d can't do 3800mhz/1900mhz, it can only do 3733/1866mhz. My old 3600 did 3800/1900 with the fans same ram. Most 5800x3d can't do 1900fclkIt's easier to just say 3600mhz so it just werk
>>102005323This but do the AliExpress 5700x3d instead for like $120 or whatever.
>>102004649Yup, add $200 and buy OLED. On the other hand Samsung Neo G7 is alright, but it costs as much as OLED.
I'm buying a case tomorrow to replace my old Deepcool Tessaract. How we feeling about the Fractal Design Meshify C?
>>102005574Yeah after researching monitors all day that is pretty much my conclusion. Looking at the 271QPX right now, would prefer 32" like the AW3225QF but I cannot stomach spending $1000 on a monitor and do not really want to deal with 4k so 271QPX seems like the best bet right now. Might just wait and see but I really want to leave the 1080p 60hz garbo contrast levels zone I live in now.
>>102005503Plus isn't higher frequency is less useful on X3D for most games since it doesn't need to go to ram as much?
I want to replace my 960 EVO 250GB with something larger, the SSD drives recommended in OP aren't available would this be ok? Reviews seem to place it on the heels of a 980/990 Pro but is a good $120 cheaper.
>>102005808>would prefer 32" like the AW3225QF but I cannot stomach spending $1000 on a monitorIt will serve you longer than a GPU. So 1k for 5 years at a minimum is alright I think, also look at MSI MAG 321UP, it's 165hz 32 4k for $800. But yeah, 4k is not for the faint of heart, I'm going 4k only because I'm tired of messed up video upscaling, it will be so easy to upscale 1080p movies to 4k or plain download 4k rips. Nobody makes videos in 1440p.
>>102005800it's good, anything fractal is good, if you can find torrent for the same money - get thatalso double check you GPu length for Mshify, UFractal got nice diagrams for that in manual
>>102005973ehh the torrent doesn't look good to me
>>102005989but it got huge fans in stock
>>102005893Thats a good drive
I guess the i5 7600 is just too old, changed out the 1050ti to an rx 6600 and it struggles to maintain 70 fps on overwatch. are quad cores basically obsolete now?
>>1020060727th gen was pretty obsolete when it launched
>>102004673>ARL ecores finally getting their own vcore rail I was a sceptic but I now firmly believe ARL will be a very efficient uarch as long as intel doesn't overvolt e-cores with >1.2v
HAGS on or off?
>see those dogshit 10 year old xeon cores?>yeah you will be forced to pay for them in your consumer processors now>enjoy your 4-core i9>no refunds btwintelcucks...
>>102006072the 7600 is pretty old now but you should be getting more frames than that, you're not playing on Ultra or in 1440p or something right?
>>102006112no, running lowest settings. have 32gb of ram, on an sata ssd. have a clean windows 10 ltsc iot install and upto date drivers. only thing i can think is maybe update the bios
>>102006100Might as well leave it on.
>>102006100You need it on for framegen.Otherwise its like SMT, it may make games better or worse.
>>102006153Isn't framegen fake and gay?
>>102006177It isMarketers keep pushing this feature nobody wants as a huge win to sell newer cards
>>102006135fuck off back to india with your unnecessary coombait you simp ape
>>102006177more frames = the better it isworse frames = the worse it isso its a double edge sword. poorfags hate it, richfags love it.
6700xt or 3070? Both are used for 320usd. or is a used 6600xt for 220usd a better deal? Pairing it with a 5600 to play lol and soulslike games. A new 6600 is 230usd for me.
>>102006299I'm not really familiar with it, is it implemented in games or is it in the driver? Does it work with fixed frame rate?
>>102005367Can probably get something like thishttps://pcpartpicker.com/guide/BCWG3C/excellent-amd-gamingstreaming-build
>>102006299well it's not that simple. the input lag is still high but now your brain expects it to be low because muh frames so it's even more frustrating.
>>102006430hmm, not worth it.ill just wait.
>>102006356I'm only familiar with AMD's FSR3/AFMF>is it implemented in games or is it in the driver?FSR3 is in game and only affects frames generated by the engine, AFMF is driver based and affects everything generated by the game including UI elements. >Does it work with fixed frame rate?It does and can make games/engines that only operate at 60FPS generate additional frames usually up to 120.
>>102006356>Does it work with fixed frame rate?yes, it works very splendidly on Elden Rings which is locked to 60 fps
What makes AFMF2 really good is it just needs DX11/12, opengl or vulkan to work. This means for old games (DX10 and older) with fixed frame rates if you use a DX wrapper like dgvoodoo2 you can inject framegen as that is all it needs. Or even just games that run like shit in general - framegen ontop of DXVK in GTA IV id pretty sweet.
>>102006556>>102006633I see, thanks. I just checked a video about it, it doesn't look that good on lower frame rates, seems very glitchy.
>>102006684Yes, ideally the sweet spot is 80-140fps. A stable 60 is fine as well for engines that are locked to 60. That's why >>102006299's post is so accurate, AFMF works wonders on my 6800XT.
>>102006684Sorry, turns out it was actually LSFG I watched, that doesn't look good at all. I guess FG looks somewhat better, that's actually implemented in the game.
huh, is this normal? Both are supposed to be Samsung 990 pro.Top is 2TB from neweggBottom 4TB from amazonDid I buy some fake shit? They were even sealed differently with different stickers on the box.
Tomorrow I'm going to get my 7600, RTX4060ti 8GB, 32GB RAM PC for 1080p gaming. Speak now or be silent forever
Looking at the bandwidth table for asrock boards, as currently aiming for a PG Lightning Wifi for a future build and just wanted to ask if I am understanding it correctly. Would I be getting the full bandwidth out of the PCIe1 and first two M.2 slots were I to build a system with two NVME drives provided I use an AMD 7000+ chip?
I feel like I should build PCs as a side hustle, but I'm concerned about technotards harassing me when they do something retarded with their computer, any suggestions?
>>102006740Have you tried plugging them in and checking? Bottom looks like the pcb from the 970 evo
>>102006748>RTX4060ti 8GBhaha!
>>102006808what's wrong with having one of the fastest 8gb gpu ever built?
>>102006815That is like saying you have one of the fastest reliant robin's ever built.
>>1020068153070ti will be faster, both will get out of vram and die tho, so you aren’t loosing much here….
>>102006356ideally you just need to hit half of your monitors refresh rate. for example 120hz = 60fps, 144hz = 72fps, 165hz = 83fps, and so on.>>102006433rtss and specialk allow you to inject reflex into games now on nvidia and amd has antilag in the driver.>>102006708yeah it s ideal for gpus like the 6800XT that can hit 1440p 120fps so it looks great on 240hz monitors.
>>102005305Doesn't look amazing but actually a neat ideaDoes it actually rely on CUDA to generate the texture?
>>102006907>rtss and specialk allow you to inject reflex into games now on nvidia and amd has antilag in the driver.till not great imo
>>102006927*still
>>102005305what game? thats actually neat
>>102006784Still working on my build so I haven't checked. But googling these numbers seems to get results for the 970 so I think you are right. Kinda sucks man.
>>102006951Just refund it? Doesn't amazon have a return policy
>>102006927it can end up making a better experience than without>>102006949https://store.steampowered.com/app/3092450/inZOI_Character_Studio/
>>102006779>technotards harassing me when they do something retardedThat's exactly what's going to happenIf you're not looking to start doing it as a business but just as a single guy posting ads on facebook marketplace or whatever, then you're at the mercy of your customers when it comes to reputation.The best you could probably do is power the PC on and show them it's fully functional before you hand it over to them, and be clear that any warranty claims will have to go through the parts' manufacturer rather than you, because your only responsibility is giving them an assembled and functioning system, and that you don't offer after sales support (unless you want to offer that as an additional fee).
>>102006961Yeah I will definitely refund. It's just dumb. Amazon, never again.
>>102006962what bout the screen tearing?
>>102007037there is no tearing because you're within vrr range or if you dont want to use vsync just do -1fps of your monitors hz via rtss or chill.
>>102006980Hmm.. Okay, thanks anon
>>102007037If you're using this stuff you probably already have a hrr monitor with free/gsync and configured properly to prevent screen tearing
>>102007057aren't you supposed to leave the cap out to benefit from the input lag reduction?
>>102007064see >>102007053
>>102007064cpu based framelimiters (rtss/chill/reflex) dont have input lag when used properly. the input lag comes when vsync is engaged but you prevent vsync from engaging in the first place by never hitting or exceeding your monitors hz cap.
I've never understood the autism about vsync input lagHigh refresh monitors are a relatively new thing in the scope of PC gaming, and virtually every single console before this current generation used v-sync, most of them not even having triple buffering. Nobody had a problem playing older games, many of which require much more precise timing than modern games.Personally, I can identify changes in frame rate very easily, but I can barely tell the difference in input lag with vsync on/off. I leave my 144hz monitor at 120hz because I frequently record gameplay and having it being a multiple of recording frame rate gives smooth recordings, and I always use vsync.
How is my build developing?keep in mind, Australian prices. Considering replacing the fan on the back of the case. I'm not going to overclock anything, but I will be living in a warmish place and my PC being quiet is my main priority
>>102007174doesnt 7700 already come with a decent cooler? seems like a waste to spend 69 on a mediocre one too when the phantom spirit is only $59
>>102007174Do you really need 64gb ram?
>>102007276>he has less than 64gbpitiful
>>102007125or play at 72fps/144hzyou won't notice any tearing even without vsync on.
>>102007348If I wanted to throw money down the toilet I'd sponsor your mother's rehab
>>102007463all that time and this is the best you could come up with? I'm disappointed
>>102007275How about the 7700 with no cooler for less than half the price it costs usually. My main concern is noise, and avoiding RGB. The stock cooler it comes with has both of these problems.>bequiet pure rock 2 is mediocreWithin 2 degrees of the Nocua U12s. >>102007276I max out 32gb pretty regularly, especially when gooning and Edging.
Is there a go to 4090 brand I should favor since EVGA doesnt make GPUs anymore, or are they all equally shit
>>102007505>bequiet pure rock 2 is mediocre>Within 2 degrees of the Nocua U12s.Both are mediocreThe phantom spirit is D15 tier and costs US$35
>>102007473>all that time and this is the best you could come up with? I'm disappointedThings your father said after 9 months of waiting
>even e-celebs are now hit by intel CPUs acking themselvesholy kekintel niggers will defend this as always.
>>102007797Dont care, still buying a 14900k
>>102007551Phantom spirit is $86 dollars in australiaMy main concern is noise, and width size. It will be a 7700 with no overclockingToo many reviews focus only on temperatures
>>102007871wait for the next gen if you really want an intel you dumb retard
>>102007941good idea
>>102007923>https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/MzMMnQ/thermalright-phantom-spirit-120-se-argb-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ps120se-argbIts 59$
>>102007953see >>102006086
>>102007984That is a rebuttal how?>it performs just about a 14900k>BUT IT HAS DIFFERENT POWER DELIVERY
>>102008007raptorlake is a housefire designed to fail in 24 monthsarrowlake might not be
>>102006086This should have been in Alder Lake, but I'm glad the change finally came. P cores 1.4V for ST maxxing, E cores 1.0V for actual efficient multithreading. Also, what is DLVR?
>>102008076Some next gen fivr that takes in 1.8v and splits it into multiple ~1v rails like what skylake x and haswell used
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/krgHdHReposting the list from last thread as I'm ordering at the end of the day. This is for servers and gaming with NAS so I was trying to get 128 RAM and a fat graphics card in as small a package as possible.So my questions for this list. I picked a random monitor but am still open to suggestions, I upgrade from the 7600 to 7700 with the extra money, as the higher end motherboards seem too expensive to justify. I want this one to last at least 8-10 years with only a few upgrades before having to start fresh.The cooler clearance with the RAM is potentially a problem, IDK how to check it but people online were saying you have to move the fan to fit ripjaws in. They were suggesting an AIO cooler, is this difficult to install/worth it? I'm a mechanic so putting shit together is not hard but I've never done this before.Is there a better motherboard in the same price range that might save me some trouble down the road or is the B550M pretty much good enough?Thanks for all your help last thread, it's been 12 years since I built a PC and someone did the hard part for me.
>>102008171Quad rank per channel at 3600c18 seems pretty intense anonI recommend you look for a board that prioritises 4 dimm configurations (i.e. t-topology) for the best chance at getting quad rank per channel working. I believe most of Asrock's 500 series boards are t topo as are older 400 boards from most vendors
>>102008285Yeah QVM says it only supports 3200, but I heard some boards can push it to 3600. I'll take a look for something in the same price range but frankly I know nothing about motherboards.Google says the B550M Elite (one in the build) has daisy chain topology though which, I can only guess at what that really means but it seems to be t-topology?
>>102008171A used 6800 XT or RTX 3080 10GB is going to be a respectable bit faster than the 7700 XT and are going for $350-360 shipped on Ebay (so $40-50 less):https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=6800+xt&_sacat=0&_sop=15&rt=nc&LH_BIN=1https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=3080+10gb&_sacat=0&rt=nc&_odkw=6800+xt&_osacat=0&LH_BIN=1&_sop=15https://www.techpowerup.com/review/xfx-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-magnetic-air/31.htmlIf you really want to spend around $400 on the GPU, I'd pickup a used 6900 XT instead which trades blows with the 7800 XT.The RMe-series from Corsair only comes with a 7-year warranty (the RMi and RMx lines have a 10-year one), while the same spec PSU from Thermaltake has a 10-YR Warranty:https://pcpartpicker.com/product/x4hv6h/thermaltake-toughpower-gf1-2024-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-0750fnfagu-p^It's also $15 cheaper to boot.>I picked a random monitor but am still open to suggestionsGoing to level with you, that $80 27" 1080p 60Hz monitor you picked is going to look hideous in person. At 27" you want at least a resolution of 2560x1440 or higher so that the pixel density is adequate for sharpness/clarity. 1080p is only really acceptable for a 24" panel. Also 60Hz is bad for gaming because it inhibits pixel response times (leading to higher motion blur) and also high input latency. You want something at 120Hz refresh rate or more, the difference is night and day,If you can't justify spending much more on your display and don't mind 24" I'd swap that monitor for this one:https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sm6NnQ/titan-army-p2510g-245-1920-x-1080-180-hz-monitor-p2510gIf you CAN justify your budget for a nicer display I STRONGLY recommend the Dell G2724D mentioned in the OP as the current price/performance sweetspot models:https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vyqrxr/dell-g2724d-270-2560-x-1440-165-hz-monitor-g2724d You'd have to spend well into the $500 range to get something that looks noticeably nicer.
>>102008458No they're different
>>102008483>A used 6800 XT or RTX 3080 10GB is going to be a respectable bit faster than the 7700 XT and are going for $350-360 shipped on Ebay (so $40-50 less)Forgot my chart.
>>102008483>A used 6800 XTRetard question but, isn't higher number newer/better? By trades blows do you just mean they're about the same but saves some money?>Corsair only comes with 7 year warrantyI've had a corsair PSU in my current computer with no issues whatsoever, so part of me wants to autistically stick to Corsair if only because I know it works.>MonitorI have a D2104 right now which is a 1920x1080 24 inch piece of shit so I could justify 100 bucks more if it's that much better, yeah. I was just picking something close to what I had.>>102008487Ah I see. Well, the RAM speed is actually not my concern it's the capacity. I run a lot of programs at once that need dedicated RAM but they don't necessarily need to be super fast. They're for running LAN WoW servers, minecraft servers with friends, faster would be better but the speed is going to be less important than internet speed for those applications. Frankly, I only got the 3600 because the 3200 was only 10 bucks cheaper. I know higher mhz means 'faster' but I also know it doesn't mean 'better'. Really, I do not comprehend how it affects performance.>>102008550>7700 XT 63%>RX 6800 69%Seems to check out, 6% better by whatever metric, but how? Also buying used is a pretty big risk, how much is a new 6800?
>>102008596>Ah I see. Well, the RAM speed is actually not my concern it's the capacity. I run a lot of programs at once that need dedicated RAM but they don't necessarily need to be super fast. They're for running LAN WoW servers, minecraft servers with friends, faster would be better but the speed is going to be less important than internet speed for those applications. Frankly, I only got the 3600 because the 3200 was only 10 bucks cheaper. I know higher mhz means 'faster' but I also know it doesn't mean 'better'. Really, I do not comprehend how it affects performance.3600 is pretty fast. The problem is that fast and capacity dont go well together. There's a high chance you'll have stability issues (causing corruption & crashes) with any random daisy chain board if you enable the xmp those ram sticks you picked.
>>102008596My corsair psu since 2013 started giving me surging issues a month ago. I took the opportunity to just tear down the whole build (i5-4670+1060) and only bring the ssds with me to my next one.
>>102008628If necessary I think I can keep them at 3200, or buy the 3200 ones if the stability is that much of an issue. Unless 400mhz is going to rock my world I see no reason to risk it with overclocking, I am not doing anything major. I'm not making money off botting 30 apex legends accounts or whatever you use 3600 ram for. Is 3600 worth it, or should I just downgrade to 3200c18 and keep that mobo? Or, if you have a motherboard suggestion link I'm open to spending a few bucks, but I can't justify something like 500 dollars for the 650.>>102008639I see, mine was a platinum 800 I think and I have no complaints. I'll double check some reviews on that specific model and switch it out if it seems too risky, thanks for the heads up.
>>102008673I mean it lasted 11 years so thats a good thing right? The Rme uses chinese capacitators compared to japanese ones in Rmx though
>>102008483>>102008639Redditors are suggesting the seasonic as both thermaltake and corsair have issues, but they say thermaltake is just as good as well. So I'll probably switch over to that one unless you guys also think the seasonic is better.>>102008713Yeah but granted I don't have the exact model number, it very well could've been an RMX. I do not have the PC with me I just memorized a few of the parts.
>>102008171out of morbid curiosity, why do you think 64GB in 2*32 isn't enough for you ?
>>102008596>Retard question but, isn't higher number newer/better? The first number in the model name indicates the generation and the second indicates the placement within that generation. What happens is that a given tier of the latest generation card matches the performance of the previous generation's next-lowest tier card but because they've been on the market for longer means they get discounted.>By trades blows do you just mean they're about the same but saves some money?Yes.>I've had a corsair PSU in my current computer with no issues whatsoever, so part of me wants to autistically stick to Corsair if only because I know it works.That's okay, but just know that Corsair not Thermaltake actually make the PSUs they sell. Only like 3-4 OEMs with factories in Asia actually produce the world's supplies of PC PSUs and all the brands you buy from just slap a sticker on them and call it a day. That's why though Corsair is a fine by itself if another known brand has a same-spec unit with a longer warranty for less money there isn't much reason to paying for more and less.>I have a D2104 right now which is a 1920x1080 24 inch piece of shit so I could justify 100 bucks more if it's that much better, yeah. I was just picking something close to what I had.It is 10,000% worth the splurge. Your monitor is what you are literally staring at 100% of the time you are using your PC. Like I said you are used to 1080p on 24" which look okay but spread across a 27" panel would actually make you think you downgraded.>Seems to check out, 6% better by whatever metric, but how?The chart was simply taking benchmarked numbers and normalizing them. Here's the same data represented in 1% Low FPS numbers> Also buying used is a pretty big risk, how much is a new 6800?Realistically as long as you keep it dusted, should be fine. I'm still posting this from a GTX 980 I bought used (10 years old this September). But I can understand wanting a new card for warranty.
>old x470 mobo>old M.2 drive>system sometimes fails to boot>GPU disconnects randomly>tried drive in either slot or using a PCIe adapter, same deal>removing the drive fixes the problem>curiously, drive works fine on other systemWhat's going on here?
>>102008596>Seems to check out, 6% better by whatever metric, but how? Also buying used is a pretty big risk, how much is a new 6800?Misread this, sorry.Lowest new 6800 non-XT is $360https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WMgrxr/xfx-speedster-swft-319-core-radeon-rx-6800-16-gb-video-card-rx-68xlaqfdeLowest new 6800 XT is $430https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XPjNnQ/asrock-radeon-rx-6800-xt-16-gb-phantom-gaming-d-oc-video-card-rx6800xt-pgd-16go
>>102008673b450m steel legend is t-topology but it has shite vrmsI'd suggest going with the b550m and going with 3200mt/s ram and hoping for the bestif your cpu's memory controller is weak, you might have to downclock the ram to 3000mt/s manually
>>102008809corrosion?
>>102008827The right-most pin looks a bit off but that doesn't explain why it works in the other machine.
>>102008856I meant on the X470
>>102008673I missed out one t-topology board that may work with 4x32gb 3600c18There's this>https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WcjJ7P/gigabyte-b450-aorus-m-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-aorus-mBut its way more expensive for some reason
>>102006324bump... sorry for being retarded plz halp.
>>102008866You sure it is the mobo and not a failing psu? Standard procedure applies: reset cmos, test. If issue persists dismantle the system and put everything back one at a time testing as you go.
>>102008866Well I'm not sure where to look for that kind of stuff, it's a fancy model so there'd be a lot of heatsinks and backplates to take off and I don't have new thermal pads on hand. I just hope it won't further shit itself.
>implying you need more
>>10200890716 MB of RAM. Nice.
>>102008885>>1020063243070. See the chart in >>102008762
>>102008954*Forgot to add, unless you play a lot of AAA titles and/or game at 1440p then I'd recommend the 6700 XT as 8GB VRAM might be insufficient in those cases.
>>102008738>why do you think 64GB in 2*32 isn't enough for you ?The sheer amount of servers I run at once. I will likely not max out 128, but I will definitely run over 64. 32 was already too little and I figure a few years in the future, running a war within server, wotlk, classic, and a minecraft server- also my background bullshit/factorio that I do on the side, it's going to chew through it and I want to be prepared.My computer is a glorious communist machine that serves the people, and though those people may be few, they each expect a chunk of that pie. I could start with 64 and RAM might get more efficient in the future but I want a motherboard with a long upgrade path. I figured if I'm gonna get 128 eventually I might as well start with a full kit.>>102008762I swapped to this: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WrNypg/seasonic-focus-plus-gold-650w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ssr-650fx it's around 100 watts bigger than my projected draw, but I'm open to a 750w if future upgrades would be likely to cut into that power draw.>>102008817As for the card, I'm still a bit lost. The 6800 XT vs non XT? What's the difference? I was hoping to go with XFX, I heard good things about them. I went EVGA once cause they were cheap and the card was an absolute piece of shit, was a 980 and would constantly fail, had to downclock it, so I'm careful about just picking whatever when it comes to graphics cards. Is ASrock good? I can spend a little more money on a higher end graphics card, not the 900 the 7900 is asking for but ~500 bucks esp if I drop the ram kits and pay for them later.>>102008823>if your CPU's memory controller is weakIt's the R9 5950x on the list, no idea how good the memory controller is. I'll grab 3200c18 and throw it on there.>>102008868Not sure why an older model would be more expensive, but I've already dropped to 3200s. Let me repost the list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TvwQXk Feel free to critique/suggest.
Anyone else autistic?$1,500 budget but if I wait I can double my budget and get a PC that'll do anything I want and will last longer.If I buy cheaper now then it'll end up costing even more in the long run with upgrades, just spread out.
>>102009040Frankly I can afford more than 1500 bucks but, since you have to start over in 8-10 years anyway due to the speed of technological innovation, 'top tier' machines aren't really worth it. I fully expect to chunk whatever I'm building 10 years down the line so I focus on making it last that long and not worrying about it.
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-introduces-geforce-rtx-4070-with-gddr6-memory-offering-similar-performance-to-gddr6x-version>NVIDIA introduces GeForce RTX 4070 with GDDR6 memory, offering ‘similar’ performance to GDDR6X version>To improve supply and availability to meet strong demand, we're introducing the GeForce RTX 4070 with extra fast GDDR6 memory. All of the other specs remain the same. It offers similar performance in games and applications.slower gddr but the price remains the same. what a scam
>>102009040$1500 is low budget if we are talking whole PC with monitor.But even if you buy high end it won't last you that much longer because you will get used to better experience so you will want to keep it that way.End result is upgrade in 4-5 years in both cases if not sooner.In my 25y of using PC I always ended up upgrading something at least once before getting whole new PC. Futureproofing is a meme.
>>102009114Classic nV, they won't even change the name to reflect that downgrade.
>>102009114Green goblins will still eat them up
>countryspain>budgetroundabout 500€ ±150 if it helps make a great value purchaselooking for an upgrade to pair with an i7-12700k for mostly 1080p 240hz esports titles and path of exile (2)here's what I'm pondering:xfx rx 6750xt for 332€xfx rx 7800xt for 524€powercolor 7900gre OC for 639€Or just fking waiting to check out battlemage and radeon 8000? I'm not in a hurry but my 2060 has some insane fan noise and runs very hot, I'm afraid to open it up since I don't have anything to fall back on. Going AMD because I'm at the very least going to be dual booting Debian.
>>102008983>The 6800 XT vs non XT? What's the difference?See here:https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-6800-xt.c3694https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-6800.c3713The non-XT version is a cost cut down model with fewer Shader Cores and ROPs which reduces it's performance a bit as seen in >>102008762>>102009114>To improve supply and availability to meet strong demandDidn't they literally cut production of the 4000 series a few months back because they were selling so slowly that it was causing a glut of cards that risked prices being discounted? Jensen needs to be buried in a coffin 6 feet under...While still alive.
>>102009174I see, I do play a fair bit of the old 400 mod skyrim so more shader cores sounds like something I'd be interested in. If ASrock and the overclocking isn't gonna fuck me in the future, I changed to the one you suggested; https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XPjNnQ/asrock-radeon-rx-6800-xt-16-gb-phantom-gaming-d-oc-video-card-rx6800xt-pgd-16goLike I said, bad experience with an evga overclocked 980. Stability for power is my biggest concern, I don't wanna be throwing this card out in 2 years.
>>102009114How can AMD even compete?>hint: they can't
>>102009114>bad value card gets even worse
>>102009114what is this, the 5th 4070?
>>102009040Do you NEED the PC now? Then buy now.If you can wait, then wait.
>>102008954>>102008978Thank you.
>>102009144Hello fellow evrobro, in your place I'd just wait a few months or, if desperate, buy used (warranty is a meme anyway, GPUs won't die within the first 2 years). If you're afraid to open up your GPU find a small shop, they'll change your paste and thermal pads for a 50.
>>102007975>RGB
>>102009235Dlss keeps getting updated so i'd argue the 4070 g6 is as valuable or more valuable than the 4070 at launch 2 years ago
>>102009399That's not how that works
>>102009399I'd argue that a 2 year old mediocre card is worth far less than it was at launch, seeing as how it will become e-waste tier in a few months. A newer, downgraded version of that 2 year old card is worth even less than that.
Day 503 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.
>>102004673What's the status for Zen 5 X3D chips? 2 more weeks for a September release?What about RDNA 4? I've heard rumors that Radeon is cutting their flagship model which sucks. Maybe a late 2024 or early 2025 release? A next gen synchronized release would be great for another full system upgrade for Team Red.
>>102009399Nvidia deserves its stock price considering how well they brainwashed their consumers
>>102009543I wish AMD GPUs were better so I could stop buying NVidia because I hate Nvidiafags
>>102009538No way Zen5 X3D will come out in September.7600X3D and 5500X3D might.If RDNA4 was close we would get some more specific leaks.
>>102009561Love me 7900 XTX. Runs everything I throw at it and it's very price competitive now so you can allocate your budget to beefing up other components. Unless you care about ray tracing but I don't think it's worth the massive performance hit.
>>102009538>What's the status for Zen 5 X3D chips? 2 more weeks for a September release?There's a chance but I wouldn't bet on it
Suppose you're stuck with your current setup forever, you're not allowed to spend another cent. How fucked are you and how do you maximize its lifetime?
>>102009561What is the USS Liberty incident?
>>102009713Israel sank a US vessel and then killed the sailors trying to swim away from the wreck.
>>102009593I'm guessing October when Arrow Lake is out for 9KX3D.AMD might give info on RDNA4 this weekend.
>>102009733
Are Crucial P3, Kingston NV2 and WD Blue SN580 good?
>>102009799they're budget, cacheless but fine
>>102009482Well the RTX 4000 lineup being shit except for $1000+ cards made the 3000 lineup relevant. All it'll take is blackwell doing the same. It's possible seeing as AMD isn't even competing with a 4090, though the 4070Ti and below are such a low bar blackwell would have to be a disaster for Nvidia to not release something better
>>102007505>>102007923>My main concern is noise
>>102009799I store my games on a NV2, it's fine, wouldn't install your os on it
>>102009799I have windows 11 installed on kingston nv2 1tb and it runs just fine
I see a lot of "for parts only" 2080s on flea bay, why? What's wrong with 2080s?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yYLR28Reposting again;This Radeon RX 6800 XT from Asrock does not have great reviews, apparently the asrock fails. Should I just pay 700 bucks for the 7900? I'd rather bite the bullet now for 200 extra than pay 500 twice replacing this card later. https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XPjNnQ/asrock-radeon-rx-6800-xt-16-gb-phantom-gaming-d-oc-video-card-rx6800xt-pgd-16goAfter this I'll prob finalize my order.
>>102009936probably cards with failed early micron memory
>>102009945If gaming is your main priority get a 5800x3d or a 5700x3d instead.
There any decent upgrade to a 6600xt I can still use with a 5900x or should I wait until I get a better CPU?It's hard to just upgrade now considering that it seems both Intel and AMD are taking a bit of a shit
>>102009799Avoid Kingston NV2 2TB.>sourceMine shits itself once I fill it over 50%.~1MB/s read/write speeds, newest firmware.I need to RMA that shit.
>>102009992He running a server + gaming, so all those cores and RAM actually makes sense here.
Does the 7800X3D provide any value in old games? They say it uses Game Bar or whatever so would it only make a difference for new games?
>>102009992>>102010021Yeah gaming is actually the lower concern compared to the server stuff, I play high end games maybe like once a year if it's a title I'm really looking forward to, or bethesda mods. I just want to make sure I'm picking the right graphics card that'll hold up for a good while, at least 5 years. If the one in there looks good I'll go ahead and buy the parts, just double checking cause of skeevy reviews.
>>102010067Not really. Old games can easily fit into the 32-36MB L3 of regular cpus and non-3D cpus have far high clockspeed and outperform 3D cpus easily
I just moved into a new, smaller apartment and I want to put my PC on a desk with wheels since I want to be able to move it around to make space. Will this somehow damage it if I move it around once a week or so?
>>102010081I have a similar Asrock card, the only problem I've had with it is coil whine.That 6800xt is at a good price right now, just return it if you get a bad one.
>>102010122rolling around on a desk? nogoing up and down from desk to floor repeatedly? will apply strain to the PCI connector
>>102010124Alright, I'll roll with this list then. It looks good.Only other question I have is on the NAS stuff, I have 4 8tb wd golds that I'm moving to a NAS, but worst case scenario this mobo has 6 SATA and I can use my old case with 6 drive bays, but google is recommending the DS423 from synology as a 4 bay diskless system. Is this a good plan or is there something obvious I'm missing? I'll be routing them directly together through a linksys WRT1900
aaah goddammit can't wait for Arrow Lake and Lunar Lake
>>102010266I'm probably going to hold off until panther lake, specifically A-P, but it's certainly shaping up nicely. removal of hyper threading, and retarded power levels while still keeping performance parity with the previous gen is very good news for this new architecture. Also the new Pcore<->Ecore logic is much simpler and should (lol) eliminate the cuck cores cucking your game's performance problem
>>102009958looks like an indie game
>>102010340yup, and iGPU + improved I/O (extra PCI-e lanes)
>RX 5700 XT shuts computer off or permanently freezes when it has to do too much work>Every answer to the problem is just "Why do you have that? Get something else"Man I need to switch this thing out.
>>102010266Yeah, since AMD can't take advantage of Intel's fuck ups I guess it's on Intel whether or not they succeed.Core Ultra 5 245K looks interesting to me. 4.2GHz base clock on P cores.Seems like the choice will be do you want more cores or do you want faster clocks.
>>1020058001. >not tomorrow theme2. fucking why?
>>102010394AMD's value is in getting hardware for cheap. Everything else is your problem. Had an RX 6600 and it was better value hardware than Nvidia but I had to switch because the driver/software issues were too infuriating to deal with.
>>102005893thats $145.99 free shipping on newegg
>>102010402These AMD faggots always following the kike tactics.I find the 7-265 ideal for me>65W>32 graphics cores>enough estrogen cores for handling my shitty virtual machinesI don't care about faster clocks
>>102006740why did you buy from some random seller or a seler you dont trust?have you tried verifying the serial# on samsungs website?
>>102010430This and at the end of the day PCs are a relatively inexpensive hobby. Saving $100-$200 here and there and focusing on “dollars per frame” is good if you’re a high schooler or homeless or something, but a functional adult shouldn’t be agonizing over spending an extra few dollars to get the non shitty experience.
>>102007276necessary???????????????
>>102010430I should just bite the sour apple and buy one of those fancy Nvidias...
>>102004673OCTOBER17thCHADS RISE UP!
>>102009143heh, I call them mmtb's
>>102009820Thanks, I will buy>>102009849ok, I wont buy>>102009909sounds good>>102010020Sounds really bad
>>102010517>ayymd files for bankruptcy on october 17thamdsis...
>>102010020shit, dodged a bullet right therethanks anon
>>102010020are they all doing that or did you just get a bad drive?
>>102010394You didnt sell it to a crypto miner for $1000 when it was the most sought after mining card? are you retarded
>>102010517Aryanlake doa
>>102010617I don't pay attention to or care about cr*pto.
What would be the best GPU option for an upgrade of an old PCI-3.0 system? Any point going beyond RTX 2000 cards? Would a 3060 b3worth it or would the bottleneck mean it's a waste of money?
>>102010580I've seen multiple people having this issue, but I don't know how common it is.The problem only shows up when I fill around 900GB so I guess not everyone is even aware they have a faulty drive.
>>102010634Even a 4090 will perform near max performance on gen3 x16. The issue is that gen3 CPUs aren't fast enough to handle this gpu unless you're using a 5800x3d on an old 300 or 400 series board
>>102010697CPU in question is a i7-8700
apparently a 850W psu was not enough to future proof me for even 2 generations
>>102009958why does vram failure cause these little XD faces? is it laughing at me?
>>1020107223070/4060ti if you have slow ram or 3080/4070S if you have fast ram
>>102010734>intel
Thinking of upgrading my RAMI have an AMD Ryzen 5 5600X and an MSI MAG B550 tomahawk MOBO. Currently I have 2 Corsair Vengeance 8 GB but I'm thinking of going for GeiL Orion or Evo Potenza, both 2 x 16GB DDR4 3200MHZWhat would be better in this scenario? The GeiL Orion or Evo Potenza or buying 2 more Vengeance 8 GB?Please help I am very stupid
>>102010635interesting. hopefully kinston can just push an update.some people on reddit suggested moving data somewhere else, and formatting the drive, to fix it.I'd suggest try that since you already own and use the drive.https://www.reddit.com/r/windows/comments/169rv6s/ssd_jumps_to_100_usage_and_completely_freezes_my/
>>102010762Thanks
>>102010745it looks like its saying "OK" sideways.like "OK i give up"
>>102010831>formatting the drive, to fix it.I did this, didn't help.
>switch from intel to amd>no longer need air conditioning for my roomit's just that easy I suppose
>>102007953beats corrosion i guess
>scares and confuses amd fans
Plan on upgrading by September. Current processor is a 3600x. Should I upgrade to a 5700x3D and call it a day or get one of those $4/500 microcenter bundles and fully upgrade to am5. The conundrum is that I want to get these items but I don’t want to spend over 1k in totalhttps://www.microcenter.com/product/675991/keychron-q1-max-hot-swappable-rgb-backlight-wireless-keyboard-blackhttps://www.microcenter.com/product/669297/audeze-maxwell-wireless-gaming-headset-for-playstation,-mac,-pc,-and-switch-80-hrs-battery-90mm-planar-drivershttps://www.microcenter.com/product/680430/msi-g272qpf-e2-27-2k-qhd-(2560-x-1440)-180hz-gaming-monitor
I know there's more to it than this alongside the $300 MSRP of the card alone, but apparently the PS5 has like 10 TFLOPs. So, even getting an RTX 4060 with 15 TFLOPs will give you MUCH better performance? Supposedly PS5 Pro will have like 17 TFLOPs.
MSI says the 4070 super gaming slim needs just 650w psu. The card chugs ~250w according to benchmarks.I have 650w corsair mx 80 bronze in my current rig and a 1070 which chugs ~185w. Am I going to explode? All other 4070 were saying they need 750w.
>>102012587Average AMD enjoyer
>>102012587sovl
>>102012631anything is better than an amd gpu (on ps5)
>>1020125395700X3D and call it a day. Also a separate pair of headphones and a proper boom mic will give you better results than ganing headsets every time.
Brehs, I was against buying a new case, but the Qube 500 and 3000d etc. look nice and don't cost much. In Asrock steel legend, X670e vs b650e which one would you choose for ECC?
>>102012587gayest thing I've ever seen and I'm gay
>>102012739only "server" class motherboards support ECC, like Asrock Rack
>>102012776Why are you gae?
I want a 32'' 4k 144hz monitor for work and gaming. I looked at the M32U and the Neo G7 as options, the price difference seems to be minimal here in Germany. But both seem to have huge QC issues and I don't want to buy a monitor that I have to return later. Any ideas?
>>102012640More like ASSRock fan.
>>102012788These support UDIMM ECC, unofficially according to level1tech.
>>102012725>Also a separate pair of headphones and a proper boom mic will give you better results than gaming headsets every time.I plan on doing this like 2 years from now. Too much money for the gear I would want to get. The Maxwells will do for now.
I’m earmarking a build of about $2k - $2.5k. Right now i’m using a 6-7 year old alienware r7. (Still runs fine, been playing black myth on medium and BG3 on ultra), but will give it to the wife.Is this enough money to have a build that will last for 7-9 years? Targeting a 4080 rtx and a ryzen 9 core.
>>102004708AMD is king right now (ryzen 7000) but dont be a fanboy faggot12th gen is unaffected by intel's incompetence and its cheaper than AMDs offerings right now15th gen will be on the same socket so theres hope for a good upgrade path in the future
>>102010777Just get two more matching sticks of Corsair VengeanceAlso, chkd trips
>>102012587Remember the nice times when gay wore tight leather pants and leather jacked with nice leather hat? This wokeism has gone too far and I feel much more threatened...
>>102012850Easily. With technology these days, even a $1,000 will last you more than you'd need.I'd avoid a $2,500 budget. Either $2,000 or jump to $3,000 because that's insignificant when you're already spending that much.A $2,500 budget makes no sense and there's nothing in that range anyway.
>>102012854>15th gen will be on the same socketsame physical socket, different pin count, extra for 15th gen due to increased I/O
>>102012922Build is already slated with 32 gb of ddr5 ram. Should I double it to 64gb and maybe 4 terabytes of an ssd?I don’t know what else to upgrade it with.
Realistically when will the RTX 5090 be announced? Also, historically speaking, does the announcement of a next gen flagship cause the current gen of cards prices to fluctuate downwards, or do prices just go down upon release?I'm looking at an RTX 4070 ti super and in Euro it is going for 890 euros. Wanting to see if the price will go down.
>>102012980Ok, so, I can leak the information just for you and few others, ok?The RTC 5090 will be released next week. but, dont tell anyone, ok?My boy Colette Kress and Jensen will get real mad if you tell them about this leak
>>102012906Anime ruined gays.
>>102013024Sound fake but it's real
White women will freak if a man spends $3k on a rig, asian women don’t care or will even help pitch in.Why does this happen?
>>102012980no worries, faggot amd wont compete this gen so nvidia will raise the base price again
I have a unique situation when it comes to a cpu coolerI use the top of my GPU to heat up medication. Yes I am serious. I have some kind of 90 mm Cooler Master in my current computer because it was the only one I could get in my area that fit in the height limit of my case. It was only months off the building it that I discovered that was a perfect way to heat up medication. Now I am building a new system, it's been 4 years. And I need to make sure I still have room to heat my medication in this manner. I'm going to use a 7700 and 3080ti in an m-atx case. So.moving the GPU down isn't an option.I was looking at something like the be quiet pure rock. It's 121mm wide compared to the 90mm cooler master I have.Be quiet also has a 97mm cooler that has been very well reviewed. Noctua has a wide 125mm sized range, but that is getting a bit tight. And they have some 95mm wide cpu coolersOr should I get a low profile cooler to completely sidestep the issue? I don't intend to do any overclocking and am only concerned with the cpu being quiet
>>102013058What? 4080 and 4090?
what case do I get>ATX>D15>long gpu>4 SSDs, 4 HDDs>usb4>IO on the front, not the top>slightly wider is fine, but it can't be too squat as desk space will become a problemI don't care about external bays, windows, or lights
>>102013113jesus christ clean your PC
>>102013137I will clean it when I move next week
>>102013113the best GPU to heat up medication right now is the 3090 because it has VRAM chips at the back of the card
>>102010340>hold off until panther lake>he doesn't knowhttps://videocardz.com/newz/intel-nova-lake-to-succeed-arrow-lake-on-desktops-panther-lake-reportedly-mobile-onlykek
I must be confused. 4070 ($550) has 35% higher relative performance than 4060 ($305) for almost double the price? For what, 4 GB more VRAM?
can you have an AMD cpu and an nvidia gpu at the same time...?
>>102013701No. If you mix them it creates mustard gas.
>>102013701Worst combo newfag, you should be going for an all Intel build rn.
>>102013701Yes. I think there are some small performance issues between certain gpu/cpu combos but nothing that would make it unusable, just slower.
>>102013701Unless you plan on using the 3D ones, Intel still provides the better overall experience. Hard to believe, I know. That's just how gay AMD is.
>>102013686I don't know how you measured that but depending on the game you should get +60% on average going from 4060 to 4070. 4070S is still better deal than 4070.
what would perform better:4060ti 16GB set to 100W4070 12GB set to 100W
Thoughts on this monstrosity?
>>102013832what gpu is that
https://hothardware.com/news/intel-core-ultra-9-285k-beats-amd-ryzen-9-9950x-benchmarksINTEL WONTHANK YOU INTEL
>>102013858>The leaked Arrow Lake benchmark runs have the Core Ultra 9 285K scoring up to 4.3% higher in the single-core test, and up to 12.7% higher in the multi-core test. And compared to the Core i9-14900K, the Arrow Lake part is 2.4% and 11.5% higher in the single-core and multi-core tests, respectively.So basically OC'd Raptor Lake but with sane power and reliability. I'll take it if they bitchslap Zen 5 in pricing.
>>102013927>bitchslap Zen 5 in pricingI don't know how intel manages to attract more delusional fans than AMD. Arrow Lake is on TSMC 3nm and Intel is bleeding money, the price is going to be sky high.
>>102013949Unlike AMD, Intel's previous gen hasn't lost confidence of Developers, System Integrators, OEMs, Reviewers, and Consumers. They NEED 15th to wipe away the the bad publicity of their old ships and sell well in ways Lisa Su arguably does not with AM4 which they keep releasing need chips to clear old stock out for. Pat is more desperate for a win.
>>102013858They'll last like 5 weeks without rust, I guess.People are always looking at speed, but you should take a look under the hood.
>>102014006Is Kamala a retard?
So are AMD cores better than Intel now?
>>102014006>Unlike AMD, Intel's previous gen hasn't lost confidence of Developers, System Integrators, OEMs, Reviewers, and ConsumersUserbenchmarkGPT.>Pat is more desperate for a win.Nothing significant could have been done to the arrow lake silicon for most of the last year. Intel isn't imploding because of recently exploding consumerslop, their revenue has been collapsing for years and their profit margin is gone because of IDM 2.0 investments that are going nowhere.
It'll probably be $300/400/600 for Core Ultra 5/7/9 K models. The tiers are really consistent
Rate my PS5 replacementCPU: Intel Core i3-12100F 3.3 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($84.77 @ Amazon) CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($35.90 @ Amazon) Motherboard: MSI MAG B760 TOMAHAWK WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($127.49 @ Amazon) Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($41.99 @ Amazon) Video Card: Gigabyte EAGLE OC GeForce RTX 4060 8 GB Video Card ($304.97 @ Amazon) Case: Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case ($95.49 @ Amazon) Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus 650 Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($105.99 @ Amazon) Total: $796.60
>>102014149How is core ultra different from i-#
>>102014174not cost efficientyou are putting too much money into case and cooling. you can get a better cpu and gpu for that money
>>102013701not only can you do it, you SHOULD do it. amd has the best cpu, and Nvidia has the best gpu's.atleast when it comes to gaming.
>>1020141744/10 almost shit>CPU: 4c/8tshould aim for at least 6c/12t>MB: fine>RAM: too low16GB is just the bare minimum, aim for 32>GPU: Gigabyte EAGLE are shitFind another brand/modelThe rest are fine
>>102014112>their profit margin is goneintel is just bloated, it has roughly as many employees as tsmc, nvidia and amd combined
>>102014176It's what Meteor/Arrow Lake and future processors get branded by because Intel thought the disaggregated/tile architecture was revolutionary. Same thing as Core i but fewer digits.
If i’m getting a GTX 4090, do I still go with a intel processor despite the current bad news or go with ryzen 9?
>>102014409100% get a 7800x3ddo NOT consider getting an Intel, and you don't need a ryzen 9. 7800x3d is THE gaming cpu.
>>102014409This >>102014472
I think that many of you have the wrong idea when you choose your CPU Cooler.Almost all of you recommend enormous double Tower coolers for even 7600 cpus. The number of 3600 CPUs I've seen that have Noctuas the cost more than the CPU is absurd.Right now A lot of people are getting AMD 7600 that have a TDP of 65. Basically any modern cooler will be able to handle that even at maximum load. The 7700 doesn't even get thermal throttled when using the beefy stock AMD cooler it comes with, although the wraith stealh is insufficient for the 7600. Unless you actually intending to do some overclocking, which 90% of you are not going to do, coolers are usually an aesthetic choice. But everyone keep recommending the same couple of coolers that are big and ugly. Giant Noctuas, the thermalrite monsters etc. As if they're going to get some more performance. And you get very aggressive here, and I've looked through Peddit, and people there are ridiculously aggressive to the point where if a cooler gets one point lower than the meme cooler on a test they recommend everyone never buy from that brand again. They freak out if a GPU goes over 75, and act like that CPU will die if it goes to 80°. When 95% of them have the base level AMD anyway
>>102014500>noctua>uglyhomosexual fingers typed this post
>>102013701Why would you risk using AMD CPUs with Nvidia GPUs when you can get the most harmonious Intel CPU + Intel GPU combination.
>>102014409Why not wait for 5090 that's around the corner?
>>102014513The Giant one isPersonally I quite like the look of the rest of them but that really big one is just ridiculous when you put it on a $200 CPU
>>102014336Which one has the crappy cores?
>>102014533>just wait for the 5090 launch bro>no stock for months>when you can get one it’s highly inflated >4090 prices paradoxically increase as well since everyone was expecting to buy a GPU can’t get a 5090 so gets the next available thing instead>by the time you can actually purchase a 5090 at MSRP the super refreshes will just be a few months away just wait bro the price will drop more and the performance will go up >supers release repeat above>why not just wait for the 6090 bro
>>102014472Why not a Ryzen 9?
>>102014174>phantom spirit for a 12100Fa ps could passively cool that thing maxed out lol
>>1020146624070 because less memory power and more cores running at lower voltage (V-f is not linear)
>>102014713>>102014713>>102014713
>>102013113Wtf are those white plastic shavings from you autist?
>>102014516This is true. But if anon isn't trolling, don't send him down the ARC/ReBAR rabbit hole.t. anon considering an a580 to use with a 3800x
>>102012587has r/buildapc leaked again?
>>102012587I love the stickers. I started buying packs of random stickers on AliExpress and Amazon. I don't like putting them on my computer case because if I don't like it it's a pain to remove.Really cute though. Stickers is a nice way to personalize your machine without spending too much money on things like RGB or a monitoring screen or w/e.
>>102014500Mostly correct. The 65w Ryzens don't need a massive cooler. I used to run an OC'd 1700x (95w). When I built it, I used the OG Coolermaster 212 (v.1) that I spent about an hour lapping on my kitchen table. Also had 2 Noctua 120mm fans on it in push-pull. It ran 4.2ghz all core and hit 92° under stressing. I had tried higher OCs and it was stable, but anything over 4.2g sent the temps to over that, which I was was not comfortable with. I ended up getting a NH-U14s. I was able to take my 1700x to 4.4ghz all core stable and about 87° under stressing.Replaced the 1700x with a 3800x (105w) Haven't even started OC'ing it yet and it will do 4.1ghz all core and 4.475 single core. Picrel. Love me some Noctua (and Delta).
>>102015831i have some too but i'll be building a pc soon so i will wait before using them. that's what i'm telling myself tho...
>>102010457I bought it from amazon, shipped from amazon not a third party or anything. I'm guessing it was a return sold as brand new and someone just swapped out their old ssd and amazon doesn't care because returns are automated by weight and they'll accept it as long as the box looks correct.
>>102009958Are 2060' and 70's safe from this?
>>102015831>>102015883>not using themed duct tape to block off venting to direct airflow betterNGMI
>>102016043>he didn't use bandaidsghay
>>102016069Oh I'm on it now mother fucker
>>102016629lmao
>>102016738We're out of Bubble Guppies band aids, that was the last one and it was having adhesion issues. But I got out the isopropyl alcohol and about to put Paw Patrol and Cars anywhere I can. Will post pics in next thread.
>>102016949based
>>102016069>>102016629>>102016949Had less than I thought. But hey, found a Cinderella one to make up for Molly.
