>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use cases.State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC>CPUWeb browsing: 12100, 5600GGaming: 12400F, 7600, 7800X3DWorkstation: 12700K, 7900X, 7950XWARNING 13th/14th gen owners: Update your bios for the latest 0x129 microcode to prevent degradation>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge/Arctic Liquid Freezer IIIDouble towers: ID-Cooling FROZN A620 PRO SE, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SEITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67>MOTHERBOARDAM5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57X2FygcqLE [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]>RAMDDR4: 2x16GB 3200CL16. Budget, 2x8GBDDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB or 2x48GB>SSD (OS drive)Low mid end: SN770Premium: SN850X, P41Flagship: Sabrent Rocket 5>GPU1080p: RTX 4070 Super, RX 7700 XT, RX 6750 XT1440p: RTX 4070 Ti Super, RX 7800 XT, RX 7900 GRE4K: RTX 4090, RTX 4080 Super, RX 7900XTXWorkstation: RTX 4000 Series>CASE (from $ to $$$)mATX: Montech Air 100, Lian Li A3, Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li O11 Air MiniATX: Phanteks XT PRO(ULTRA), Montech AIR 903 Base/MAX, Antec C5, Lian Li Lancool 216/IIIAVOID: 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, 4000D airflow>PSUBudget: Gold rated 500-600W PSUMid range: ATX 3.0 compliant fully modular gold rated PSU @ 75% max loadHigh end: Seasonic PRIME TXAVOID: GAMEMAXPSU buying guide:https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/ (updated Q3 2024)>MONITORStandout:1080p: MSI G244F E21440p: ASRock PG27QFT2A, Dell G2724D2160p: Gigabyte M27/28/32Uhttps://pcpartpicker.com/list/tBTGQP>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansBudget: Arctic P12/P14 Max (5-pack)High end: Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM, NF-A14x25r G2 PWMPrevious: >>102004673
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Anyone using the gigabyte M32U here? Would be interested in some personal experiences or issues
>>102014713Still don't know why people are obsessed about here. What does she do shit gold?
>>102014784*her
I have a 4770k & a 1070. thinking of upgrading sometime in the first half of next year. looking at a 265k & 5080 targeting 1440p (4k looks unachievable)sound reasonable?
>>102014827>getting a 5080 without moving to 4KWhat a waste. Leave your ancient monitor tech behind already. Crispy text and optimized DLSS await. DLSS performance at 4K will run nearly as well as base 1080p and look better than 1440p native. Hail to the king baby
>>102014827i wouldnt go intel until they get their new fabs up and running
>>102014864I'm not going to be using DLSS / frame gen so a 5080 seems to be what I need to do 1440 native
>>102014864>relying on dogshit wangblows dpi scaling that doesnt even work in half of programs
Is there a list off all the big intel fumbles?>be asked to do the processor for the iphone >don't do it>miss mobile>fumble larrabee>miss shitcoin mining>don't let anyone else use their foundries when they were still competitive>miss EUV>miss AI
>>102014886>im going to use native 1440p because i don’t want to use DLSS for arbitrary reasons even though it looks noticeably worse and will also run worseFascinating… maybe AMD is more your speed, kid
>>102014907>for arbitrary reasons
4080:720p60 card4090: 1080p60 card
>>102014989meme tracing, not even once
>>102014947>noo! I must get a 1440p monitor instead of 4K! If I get 4K I’ll have to turn on DLSS which will look and run better than 1440p native! I can’t just do that I need a worse experience so I don’t have to switch DLSS on!!
when the payback period for a high end rig, I don't see a justification on getting a rig if it gets obselete out in 2 years, while the ps5 is still chugging.
>>102014947Stop it. You're arguing with a shill. You're paying him to make you mad.
>>102015029You don’t need to worry about getting a high end rig Rajindahar
>>102015000"meme" tracing is the only positive feature added to the rendering pipeline in a decade
repostanMSI says the 4070 super gaming slim needs just 650w psu. The card chugs ~250w according to benchmarks.I have 650w corsair mx 80 bronze in my current rig and a 1070 which chugs ~185w. Am I going to explode? All other 4070 were saying they need 750w.
>>102015068And we will need another decade for decent performance. It's only worth it for taking screenshots right now.
>>102015021>DLSS performance at 4K>look better than 1440p native>>102015021Press x to doubt2prw
>>102015107The GPU brands are posting inflated wattage reccomendation to cover their asses. 650W is plenty.
>Core Ultra 7 265K8 Performance™ cores/12 Estrogen™ cores3.9 GHz Performance™ cores base clock/3.3 GHz Estrogen™ cores base clock>Core Ultra 5 245K6 Performance™ cores/8 Estrogen™ cores4.2 GHz Performance™ cores base clock/3.6 GHz Estrogen™ cores base clockLooks like 245K will be the Gamers™ choice.
Will a 7800x3d and 4070 ti super be able to handle games 10 years from now?
>>102015199Can a 4790K and 760Ti handle games today?
>>102015199>Will a 7800x3d and 4070 ti super be able to handle games 10 years from now?7800X3D? Quite possibly at the rate improvements are going.4070 ti super? Not a chance unless you are running on very low setting with maximum bullshit upscaling and fake frame generation
>>102015199>>102015237>>102015250Sounds to me PC gaming is dying.
>my voodoo 1 and pentium 2 cant run Crysis at 1024x768 75hz, modern devs in 2007 dont know how to optimize
>>102015275Every year since 1995
>>102015275enthusiast pc gaming has been dead since 2009 at least. every single god damn game that requires new hardware has none of the amenities or mechanics that made pc gaming stand apart from console gaming back in the day, and all the pc exclusives that are worth shit all run on god damn toasters anyway, everything else is just console gaming with rgb with server binaries under lock and key in blasphemous kubernetes clusters fostering literal biomechanical monoculture corpodrones known as nu-gamers
>>102015237>>102015250Better off waiting for the GHz cpu breakthrough in 2027Games will never be the same
>>102015250My 1070 can run Tsushima and the monke game. Just lower the detail an turn off the fps killers.
>>102015199No. Technology is advancing so fast and is cheap that you'll need to upgrade sooner. It's a great thing, but be mindful when you spend lots of money on a build.20 series was supposed to be the ray tracing revolution. An RTX 2070 was $500 MSRP and couldn't do ray tracing and is completely worthless today.Intel's own 14th gen i3 destroys their few generation old i9. Their upcoming Arrow Lake this year is supposed to be crazier than that.Who knows what a 9800X3D will bring.Just buy the shit you need for today, future proofing doesn't exist and never did.
why has the adaptive sync problem not been solved yet? gsync is the only one that does it correctly but they effectively don't support it any more and it had latency issues. no one implements adaptive sync derivatives (freesync) correctly and so you get cucked 75% VRR scaling and/or unimaginable levels of ghostingwhy is it so hard for all monitors to support 1hz to 60/144/240
>>102015317Yes
future proofing always existed, but only for certain parts such as power supplies, cases, coolers, and in some cases motherboards (am2, am4, 775 come to mind)in terms of raw power there is no nuance and you are correct thoughever
>>102015275Console performance has become so good, especially at their price, that it really doesn't matter that much regardless of what /pcbg/ might tell you and the statistics don't lie. It's mostly an enthusiast hobby.
>>102015393>>102015442
>>102015445the appeal of pc gaming was never the performance ratio. back in the day no one even cared about how console games performed on pc. we were too busy modding and hosting servers for pc exclusives, and the casuals were left to their console devices. It was always about customization, modding, hosting servers (like hosting a clubhouse), being able to tune and tinker etc.now the software (and even the hardware if you dont pay completely out the ass) is all console tier, and the pc gamers are all consolebrained lower-order animals it doesn't even matter, it's all locked down and server binaries are under lock and key in le black cube borg cloud so the intellectual property holders can assassinate the game when they want to sell you the next one, whether it is le 'live service' or not.
>>102015137>heh press X to d-ACK!!Get rekt lil chudbudGetting a 1440p screen over 4K in the era of DLSS is Laughable
>>102015543yet all of /pcbg/ are a bunch of retards always complaining about>muh gaymin performance
>>102015624yes they are all casual consolefags larping as enthusiasts
>>102014784good music
>>1020151997800x3d definitely, I'm still on Zen 1 for fucks sake. The 4070 Ti requires a different question, at what resolution? If 1080p, probably, lowing some quality options. A 980 can still handle 30 fps AAA gaming to this day in 1080p, but using low presets. However, why would someone still be using 1080p monitors in 2034?
Hyte Y70 or Proart PA602 for my upcoming AM5 blackout build? Love the old school look of the PA602 but I also love the Y70, I don't find any other fishtank cases appealing except for this.
>>102015693> However, why would someone still be using 1080p monitors in 2034?The cope answers are what keep it going. The human eye can't see past 1080p dontchaknow
>>102015711I like the look of the proart more.
>>102015711Dual ProArts user here, go for it
>want to try playing dayz again>install>battleye won't launch>try a bunch of shit nothing works>try updating graphics drivers to remedy>update fails>try updating windows to remedy>update fails with a Error 0x8000ffff>try to run windows update troubleshooter>error occurs preventing troubleshooter from starting>painnew pc parts cant get here soon enough I'm tired of this broken ass install of windows. Starting fresh now.
>>102015900>and amazon doesn't care because returns are automated by weight and they'll accept it as long as the box looks correct.This is true. I bent my pins on my motherboard on accident. Bought the same motherboard again and returned the old one. A dick move but motherboards are so expensive man.
>>102015911>dayzeuuuuuuh brother eeeuuuuuuh
>>102016090i just wanted to see if its good now ;_;
>>1020157191080p60fps*
>>102015603>Mouse over DLSS screenshotNice sloppy in-game screenshot, loser. Did you make it yourself?
>bought 144hz monitor 4 years ago>today, start checking my monitor settings>Change brightness, contrast...>Only refresh rate options are 60/72hzHave I been using an older HDMI cable all this timeI swear I've checked my refresh rate before and it was 144, maybe I'm just retarded and dreaming Now I'm off to buy a displayport cable
The human eye can't see past 60fps144hz is a scam
>>102015237>4790kYes>760TiNo
>>102016204Cope
>>102016298Nah, you've slipped up now anon. Your DLSS screenshot wasn't even in-game and I couldn't find anyone else on Google comparing 4K DLSS performance and native 1440p
>>102015107imagine the smell of all that dirt and dust the CRT must be burning in realtime
>>102016376I think he’s just screenshotting from this video it’s what I found on YouTube first thing. https://youtu.be/8MalHoFD0-I?si=hSYBwTWdXXOPtB6_
The screws on the sides of my NVMe heatsink are touching the PCIe slot the GPU is in and the PCH heatsink, should I be worried about heat transfer/GPU fans causing the drive to vibrate?
>>102016492Ah nvm lol, I believe anon now
Are there any motherboards that have multiple PCIex16 lanes for m.2 drives? I bought a B650 Tomahawk without realizing it only has an x16, x2, and x1 because I'm a retard.
>>102016492
>>102016627You would need workstation or server platform for that. Desktop CPUs don't have enough PCI-E lanes to support more than one x16 with full speed.Best you can do is two x16 running in x8/x8 mode.
>>102016724which one is which? left looks more "in focus" but is clearly a worse image (just look at the chainlink fence) so I would favor the right image here
Dudes be talking about whether the chainlink fence in their games looks 5% better...
>>102016844here>>102016875now you're moving the goal posts lmao
>>102016875>loss of information is actually a good thing!
>>102016875I don't think chain link fences are meant to be opaque
>>102016909Given /g/'s stance on RAID, yes.
>>102016925kek
>>102016538>>102016724Ah nvm, I guess it's a by game basis thing
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PhhzqRIs this an overkill build if I'm not sure if I'll be gaming or not? I'll mostly be using it for music production, dabbling in video editing and animating/digital painting. I might try 3d stuff, but it's another one of those things like gaming, that looks ni e to do but I might never do it.Also, since I'm going to be going productivity-heavy with my use, I'm thinking of dropping the OLED and going with IPS instead. The Dell G3223Q looks like it could be a decent option from what I've seen so far. I've also thought about going straight for a huion display tablet, but I think having a separate regular display too is beneficial in the long run (for refs, etc.)
>>102016947pretty much. i tend to prefer the driver side solutions myself because it's at least consistent even if less "detailed" than in-game implementations.
>>102017010>driver sideLiterally retarded>it's at least consistentYeah, consistently bad
4K DLSS and 1440p native look better in different situations it seemsThere seems to be some loss of fine detail as shown by the chain link fence in the 4K, but it's also smoother
>>102017075why so mald?
>>102017143Retarded people like you should be ground into meat to feed the more deservingWaste of human skin
>>102014713>1080p: RTX 4070 Superwho makes these shit threads?
>>102017172>t.
>>102017172Yeah, you mad
>>102017172>calmest nvidia fanboy
>>102017191boomers
>>102017200>>102017205>>102017208>the truth is too much for retardsTriggered and farmed
>>102017191deadass fr if you cant run alan wake pathtracing then you cant run any game. You need a 4090 for 1080p at the very least
How the fuck are we still on 1080p gaming?
>>102017308see>>102016140
>>102017308Nvidia realized nobody upgrades their monitor unless it breaks so their marketing changed from "the 970 is a 4k card" to "buy this $600 GPU to keep playing at 1080p"
>>102017308If you can't see shit it is an effective way to gaslight yourself into thinking gaming is worse and games look no better than crysis.
>>102017253
>>102017253Maybe you shouldn't get so angry
>>102016069 #>>102016629 (You) #>>102016949 (You) #Had less than I thought. But hey, found a Cinderella one to make up for Molly.
>>102017308a combination of factors>1080p was around for so long that it became too ubiquitous>flagship phones (normie central) uses 1080p equivalent resolutions, and is therefor the prime content target>1080p hit that pixel density point where increasing density is diminishing returns rather than significant improvement>asset bloat in games, file size bloat in media, gigabit connections are only now finally dominating the market, etc>consoles>graphics realism chase negatively impacts performance at the same rate GPUs advance>rise of competitive games and the obsession with ultra high refresh rates
>>102017444looks pretty cool
>>102016499Please help
R5 5600Asus B450M A-2PNY 1660tiCuricial 16gb ddr4 3200 cl16 kit1TB Samsung SSD sataseasonic 650w gold psuNoctua 92mm cpu coolerHow much should I ask for to sell on a FB marketplace?
Is now a good time to build a new gaming PC? I feel like I should since my computer is quite old but on the other hand I can still run modern games no problem if not always on the highest settings.
>>102017559No. I only ever recommend getting a new PC/upgrade when you need it. Do you need it? Sounds like you don't. But ask yourself again, do you need to play the latest games in high settings?
>>102014713I'm looking to upgrade my PC, my Ryzen 3700x and RTX 3070 is already feeling it's age, whether I'm getting ram cucked (BeamNG), VRAM cucked (BeamNG, H3VR), CPU cucked (GOI4), what should I move to? I'd say I'll have a budget of give or take £1000, I'm guessing I should just go for a 7800X3D and a RTX 4070 or an AMD equivalent as 12GB of VRAM feels like the next cuck zone.
>>102017556Tree fiddy
>>102014713>Cool aquarium lighting>Gay ass anime stickersMany such cases
>>102017595Sell me the 3070 for fifty green freedom papers.
>>102017632For a green card, an RTX 3070 is a small price.
>>102017627jfc Carlos
>>102017641I'm not into bussy, but thanks
>>102017595Looking at the prices, I'm actually considering the RX 7900 XT. I hate AMD, I hate losing all my features but I mean, the RTX 4070 Ti is the only other option at £90 more, I don't care about ray tracing but I do like DLSS and think FSR looks like shit.Fuck.CPU wise, I don't mind going to a 7th gen Ryzen 7800X3D.
>>102017606Real answer please
>>102017108When you consider its DLSS performance which runs like you’re rendering at 1080p that genuinely is pretty black magic tier. I’ve never really looked into how big of a performance hit moving up to balanced/quality mode is. IME there is zero reason to not use quality mode DLSS in 4K as the actual image is literally indistinguishable or straight up better across the board depending on how shit the base games TAA implementation is
>>102015351wrap ivy around your cables you stupid retard
https://community.amd.com/t5/gaming/ryzen-9000-series-community-update-gaming-performance/ba-p/704054>Why AMD-generated gaming data differs from reviewer data: For our Ryzen 9000 launch, AMD internal labs generated data that showed a 9% average generational uplift in 1080P gaming versus Ryzen 7000 Series, and an average of 6% higher performance across more than 30 games when compared against the competition’s best. >Not all reviews are seeing these results, and this reflects the complexity of high-performance PC testing today given the number of system and software variables. There are several factors specifically creating these differences in some Ryzen 9000 reviews:>The AMD gaming test suite includes a broad set of esports, AAA, and popular older games, which are a combination of CPU- and GPU-bound titles. Game performance conclusions can be influenced significantly by the makeup of the test suite.>AMD tested Intel configurations using comparable DDR5-6000 memory as well as Intel default settings-baseline power profile which can have a small impact on gaming performance.>AMD also tests with Windows Virtualization-based Security (VBS) enabled. This is the default Windows behavior and Microsoft recommends activating VBS to improve security, however it can affect gaming performance.>The “Zen 5” architecture incorporates a wider branch prediction capacity than prior “Zen” generations. Our automated test methodology was run in “Admin” mode which produced results that reflect branch prediction code optimizations not present in the version of Windows reviewers used to test Ryzen 9000 Series. We have a further update on accessing this performance for users below."We got our numbers by using a super sekrit version of Windows not available to anybody" LMAO
heaset with the best mic? I am literally tone deaf so as long as it plays sound without cracking it is all the same to me>use a boom micno
>>102017963>AMD also tests with Windows Virtualization-based Security (VBS) enabled. This is the default Windows behavior and Microsoft recommends activating VBS to improve security, however it can affect gaming performance.so they improved hypervisor performance and claim the new processors are fasterlmaono one should have that shit turned on
>>102017963So is AMD going to share this build or what?
What monitor should I get?Dell G2724D vs iiyama G-Master GB2766HSU Red EagleOr maybe there are other choices? I'm mostly looking for something withing that budget ~$300 I don't care about gaming features as much as I care about good colors as I would be using it for video editing and gfx but also sometimes gaming
>>102018039>1080>in current yearG2724D
>>102017977>headset>good micyour favorite headphones + $30 Amazon lapel mic
>>102017308Becasue anime is produced in 1080p so I'm not upgrading untill they upgrade too.
>>102018066What aboutGigabyte M27Q vs Dell G2724D
>>102017993>Optimized AMD-specific branch prediction code will be available in Windows 11, version 24H2 in preview through the Windows Insider Program (Release Preview Channel - Build 26100) or by downloading the ISO here.Please install Windows beta ;)
>>102018083not an option. Every external mic I have ever used I have had to fiddle with and my work PC is too locked down to fucking do anything
>>102018087I still pirate anime in 720. I barely see the difference with 90% of anime
>>102014713What's the best way to apply thermal paste?Is it still the pea sized dot in the middle?
should i upgrade to a 9th gen i7 1151, or ditch my board all together and upgrade everything? i just want faster compile times.
>>102018263Pre-cut sheet of Honeywell PTM7950
>>102018263same way dell does it. Put as much on as you want and call it a day
>>102018263x
>>102017579>Do you need it?I mean you could argue I don't NEED a gaming PC at all. Its probably more useful to look at it as a matter cost vs utilization but really my question was about whether now is a good time to buy not trying to justify the purchase.
I tweaked the computer I've been thinking aboutHow does this look?https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Y2XcJyIs there any glaring problems that you see? I'm not too familiar with motherboards but I think this one looks goodAlso the stock AMD cooler should have no problems with the RAM clearance right? I've heard I should just stick with that cooler
>>102018263CPU ~ X like X3DSSD ~ Dot like PeaGPU ~ Spread it manually
>>102018302Your board don't support 9th gen, at max 7th gen 4c/8tDitch your board and upgrade to a 8c/16t Zen 3 CPU like 5700/X/X3D, best if you can get the 12c/24t 5900X, you can even keep your RAM
Do cases come with motherboard screws? I tried looking at my local stores and I can’t find motherboard screws.
>>102018708yes
79xtx soon yeww
>>102018466Get out of that mindset. "Good time to buy" is a trap. There is never a good time to buy. The next best thing is always around the corner.The only question you really have to ask yourself is can you tolerate playing x game at lower settings? Do you want to play the latest games? If you answer no, then don't buy/upgrade a PC.
Finally got the z690 gigasghits to f29e bios had to use @bios in windows 11 lol it refused to flash from qflash in bios memory good should i try for better timings than ddr4 3200 cl16 with 4x16gb sticks maybe 3600 cl14? Made no difference on my older 59x with similar ram
>>102018766Best time to buy is when stuff is on sale new on clearance for 50% or less of its launch price or used even less
>>1020185081. what cooler?2. why not a 7900gre/xt? It'll do better at higher resolutions for a long time to come so unless you use nvidia tech/RT, consider it3. can you really not afford $10 more for a seasonic psu?4. what are you going to be doing with 64gb ram? If price is a constraint (this looks mid budget), 32gb would be the first place to cut down. I'd also grab faster sticks for free performance on ryzen
>>102018766there is definitely a bad time to buyfor example if you buy a $2000 GPU now, a couple of months before the new gen launch, you are fucking retarded
>>102014864>Leave your ancient monitor tech behind alreadyMonitor choice is highly subjective.But, 4k on too small of a size monitor is very silly.
>>102018302You'll need to bios mod your board if you want a i7-9700 to work in your boardLook up coffeetime mod
How big of a drive do I need to just install Windows? I need one for testing purposes.
>>102018770>should i try for better timings than ddr4 3200 cl16 with 4x16gb sticks maybe 3600 cl14depends on how much voltage you need to shove into themif they can do 3200CL16 they should do 3600CL18 or 4000CL19 for free, but you will need more voltage for better timings
>>102018873idk about the meme 'we definitely dont spy on you and there is no bloat' honeypot builds but W10 is like 25-30 gigs normally
>>102018770>>102018876>Made no difference on my older 59x with similar ramoh yeah btw you should put more of your focus into the secondary timingsespecially with 4 sticks this matters a lot more than reducing the CAS latencyit's more of a nice freebie if you can do it without the sticks overheating or running at dangerous voltageshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgb8N23tsfA
Wendell has been using his autism to dig into where the Zen5 performance has gone on Windowshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eY34dwpioQ
>>102018921Thanks. I just need it to run some benchtesting. I am going to install Linux eventually so I can learn it as I go but I want to make sure everything is right before I do. And I only know how to use Windows.
>>102018876>>102018934Oic i guess my 13600k has enough ram bandwidth and isnt like zen 5 lul
>>102018809>1. what cooler?I thought the Ryzen 5 7600 came with the wraith cooler right? Does it not?>2. why not a 7900gre/xt? It'll do better at higher resolutions for a long time to come so unless you use nvidia tech/RT, consider itI always thought Nvidia was just the way to go>3. can you really not afford $10 more for a seasonic psu?I heard that the MSI was pretty good and that I should go for the ATX 3.0 and gold. To make sure its ATX 3.0, apparently I have to get a 1000w PSU which would be an extra 30 which is a lot. Does it make that big a difference to get a seasonic?>4. what are you going to be doing with 64gb ram? If price is a constraint (this looks mid budget), 32gb would be the first place to cut down. I'd also grab faster sticks for free performance on ryzenI know it's a little overkill but I usually have to keep a lot of things open at once for my work. I am a concerned about budget though
>>102018966bandwidth is overratedyou want low latency
>>102018873I would recommend a 40 GB partition for some slack for page file, updates, user files
will intel 15th gen be more efficient than amd or still no
>>102019058yes
>>102019058probably not since all core clocks are 5.4ghz meaning 1.2v+ load voltage
>>102019058as a heater? for sure
Trying to set up living room gaming PC. Want to fit case inside of TV stand. I have a HAF XB EVO which is the perfect dimensions to fit in the cube-like space. Got all of my components. Turns out my 4080 super is too big to fit an AIO radiator in front of the case. OK no problem, air cooler will perform just as well and only be like another $40. Only issue is now the 200mm top-mounted case fan which was a huge part of the case's cooling strategy doesn't clear the heatsink. If the heatsink were maybe 5mm shorter it would be a perfect fit. And yes I measured ahead of time but I wanted to be extra sure.Old forum threads show some people mounted the fan outside of the case, which is too retarded for me. I can ditch said fan and lose the benefit of sucking heat from the entire case right out of the top. Thinking about trying a Silverstone Grandia 11 and going back to a AIO, but it's so wide that its side fans would get choked. I can use a 120mm AIO venting out of the back of the case, but that sounds kind of weak, need to do more research on temps for that.Literally had the components for my build sitting around for so long I'm about to exit the return window for some of this shit.
>>102019016Too much work. I really just want to chuck in a fresh install of the OS, with TestMem5 and Cinebench R23. And once it's done I unplug the SATA SSD and put in my proper SSD. Save the windows SSD for future testing and all that.
>>102019058*Core Ultra 200 series
>>102019144Replace the 200mm with three 120mm fans?
>>102018824>if you buy a $2000 GPU now, a couple of months before the new gen launchSure, if prices go down, bad.But we aren't talking about investing. We are talking about getting a good card. Let's say you get 4090 card for $2000, and the 5090 comes out tomorrow, it's $2000 too. (it will probably be the most expensive nvidia card ever, actually, perhaps $5000, but let's suppose)If your 4090 (I hate nvidia, we'll leave this aside) card is actually very close in performance to the new 5090, let's say 10%, then it's annoying, but you have to remember that you would have eventually had the slower card anyway. You need to balance not getting 10% more performance vs not getting to play games.If you are a gamer, the question then is: is my hardware holding out?Because as a gamer forgoing one day of gaming isn't worth it.Now, that's the situation for the gamer:1. If my hardware won't keep up (is keeping me behind) with my next game, I will upgrade immediately.2. If my hardware will keep up, I still want to upgrade sometimes, so I can use for example rt (I hate videocard rt, but let's imagine it is actually good). I will be more reluctant to buy, but still it's my hobby, so I'll spend my extra money on upgrades, sometimes (but, since I am a gamer, mostly I buy games).This changes if you have another hobby, like I do: photography. So, here are the rules for the gamer/photographer:1. If my current PC won't keep up with my next game, then I will switch to photography until it's an optimal time to upgrade.2. If my current PC is keeping up, I won't upgrade.
I hear the Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120SE cooler has a clearance of 42mm but I can't find any information on the exact mm of the Corsair Vengeance DDR5 64GBHow do I know if it'll fit or not? I'm so damn nervous that I'll buy them and the cooler doesn't fit with the ram
>>102019251just offset the fans a couple mm above and it will fit
>>102019251You can move the fans up, they're just attached using metal clips.
ALSO!!!The 5090 could have a 50% uplift, that's all.If the 5090 costs 50% more than the 4090, then "the more you pay, the more you get"
>>102019273That's exactly what I had to do, the clips are on the side, and you just move it up to put in tall rgb ram (it was on sale).I did a different cooler, the whatever famous one, but it's the same.
>>102019058its got the node advantage so it should for once but e-cores aren't efficient at all which is why AMD threw shade by calling them economy cores.
So how is this then? I made sure to get a cooler just in casehttps://pcpartpicker.com/list/fzyML9Can anyone tell me if its like good or something? I'm gonna give myself an ulcer with how damn sick this is all making me
>>102019338>efficiency cores aren't efficient at allkek, what a shitshow
>>102019351What are you doing that you need 64gb of RAM?
>>102019338arrowlake's e-cores can be efficient since it will get its vcore from the fivr and could theoretically pull only 1.1v while p-cores are using 1.5v. but preliminary clock speeds at 4.6ghz for the e-cores likely mean that they will use >1.3v at stock in which case your right, they wont be efficient at all
>>102019389Is OCing with FIVR more finicky/fussy?
>>102016898love how anon is brushing off the fact his source clearly states 4k dlss is in fact worse than 1440p nativecan't defeat the chainlink check
>>102019442its easier since vdroop is minimal compared to regular voltage regulator setups. just set a voltage and maybe raise vccin from 1.8v to 1.9v and you're done
are there any benefits of having 128gb of ram outside of music/video production and sciency shit? I mess with LLM's sometimes but even then VRAM is the better angle there. I'm just gonna go all out once 5090 and arrow lake/zen5 x3d drops so wondering if it'd be if any use
>>1020194654K DLSS performance* it’s clearly about 50/50 depending on what you’re looking for and the game. Balanced and quality modes are a different story entirely. I have a 4K monitor and use balanced in every game, it’s almost impossible to tell the difference on my 32” monitor without a zoomed in comparison from native and it’s about +30% frames
>>102019370running Windows and FireFox
>>10201955432gb is more than enough for that
>buys new battery for laptop>manual says to repeating charging to 100% and discharging to 5%-10% a few times before the battery shows full capacity>burn off battery by Linpack Extreme and Furmark simultaneously>Battery Wear: 20%
>>102019495>any benefits of having 128gb of ram outside of music/video production and sciency shit?playing modded games, specially paradox gamesmodded OG cities skylines can easily eat all that 128gb ram and will force you to increase pagefile by a good 50gigs at least or it'll crash loading your city. been there.Besides that I guess being able to run stuff like Stable Diffusion along other games at the same time as the SD models get loaded into ram.>I mess with LLM's sometimesyeah, aim for 128gb if you can. 64gb might not be enough if you like multitasking while messing with local AI stuff. 32gb ram will for sure not enough at all if you use AI along other shit.>VRAM is the better angle therefact. prioritize getting the best gpu (vram) to date first. then 64gb ram at least.
>>102019561its not
>>102019578>>102019495by modded games I mean HEAVILY modded games, as in having moddlists that are over 200gb long>>102019561it's not at all for aiOp messes with local AI, he'll hit the ram cap fast.
79xtx just sitting at the sorting center won't be til tomorrow and quest 2 next week fucking auspoost
>>102019578>modded OG cities skylines can eat 128gb RAMWTF? Isnt there a hardlock on the number of agents in CS1? I remember there being a threshold where it just becomes numbers/stats and the actual simulation caps out. That’s wild.
>>102019621 godammed weeb city (pic rel) took me 30 mins to load every time. >WTF? Isnt there a hardlock on the number of agents in CS1?I never really checked on it desu. All I know is I ran out of ram (yes all the 128gb) and the only solution to load my huge ass city was to increase pagefile by 50+gigs to make up for the "lack" of ram.but then again, the mod list was like 250gb long or something around that number, on top of being a huge ass city with a mod that made population numbers more "realistic" (which in return made the game have 5+ times the population density numbers a vanilla game would ave)
>>102019606I'm a different anon from the one with the pcpartpicker link so the lines probably got crossed,like I said, I'm just gonna build the best commercially available pc in ~8 months so I was merely musing about the ram
>>102016285The human eye can, the brain can't.
>>102015197execute whoever made these naming schemes
>>102017556200
>>102019320> 50% moreAnd 36GB VRAM?
>>1020189721. I'm not sure if it comes with a cooler, there exist tray versions that, so double check. The stock cooler is ok tho, maybe not the most performant for the aggressive boosting of Ryzen. Upgrade to a Thermalright Phantom Spirit/Peerless Assassin if you can fit that in2. You need to investigate your use cases, nvidia is usually overpriced. That card isn't a bad choice tho.3. atx 3.0 is nice but not some magic bullet, I'd rather go with a known excellent manufacturer like seasonic4. You do you, though there's really very few things that would need that much ram and can be done on a gaming pc (workstation/server workloads)I forgot to mention: add another drive to separate data from OS. Don't put all your eggs in a single solid state basket.
Is it worth getting a 6800 non xt for $360 for 1080p gaming?
>>102019606>it's not at all for aiI don't even get to 40% utilization running stable diffusion with 32gb, what the fuck are you guys doing?
>>102019880Maybe you're right about the seasonic. I've had a power supply fail on me not too long ago. I couldn't imagine if a failing PSU fried my brand new computer, maybe it's worth the extra cash. So I guess the Seasonic Focus V3 GX-1000 is the way to go to make sure its atx 3.0 then?I think I'll get a thermalright cooler, the ryzen doesn't seem to have a cooler on closer inspectionAlso I do plan to slot in my old HDD so I didn't include it in the build.
>>102019994Yes. They are heavily tuneable as well (mpt to increase fclk, for some reason fabric clock of 6800 is very low stock compared to everything else).They can handle 4k gaming without rt nevermind 1080p. I usually play at 1440p with my 6700xt and get 100+ fps, 4k drops to 50-60fps.
Looking to get a new monitor GPU is 7900 GRE so 27" 1440p probably safer even though I kinda want 32" 4k. Do not really want OLED but I mostly care about contrast and the viewing angle not being garbage so it seems like the only real option. Any thoughts between XG27AQDMG, 271QPX or AW2725DF?
>>102017963>"Zen 5" will see the biggest boost, but this Windows update will improve performance for "Zen 4" and "Zen 3" as well. We're collaborating with Microsoft to roll out this optional update to all Windows 11 users soon.Windows 10 bros.. how do we cope with this.
>>102019002Yeah and ddr5 isn't exactly low latency is not ddr4 superior in that regard?
Is the main PCIE slot for this motherboard physically lower than usual?in my current PC, the main slot is on the top. Does this give me more room between the CPU cooler and the GPU?
>>102018946Watched it.>have to rice your BIOS for peak performance because OS settings decide not to work sometimesModern windows is fucking weird. I wonder what version of linux and proton he was testing with. Probably ubuntu lts and proton 9 like phoronix does.
>>102020487If you open the chat replay you can see his messages there, he was using nobara
>>102019994Get the xt or 69xtx/h or 6950xtFound the 68xt gutless and that was 4yrs ago
>>102017963Disgusting this is as bad as intel lol!Glad my 136k is happy
>>102016499No. Modern NVME drives don't even get that hot and vibration is not going to do anything.
When did this become a thing? The GPU slot is lower on the motherboard?that's an extra 20mm of room for a CPU cooler. My concerns with the CPU cooler being too large are gone!there are 85mm between the center of the CPU to the top of the GPU in my current systemthe 90mm cooler means it take up 45mm, leaving me with 40mm clearance.the new Motherboard has 105mm between the center of the CPU to the top of the GPU. Even if I got something huge like the Deep Rock 5 pro, that would leave me with 37.5mm. Even the unusually shaped Dark Rock TF 2 would leave me with 35mm!I'm free! I can get any cooler I want! What cooler looks good and is quiet?>performanceI'm using a non overclocked 7700 with no plans to ever overclock. it's a 65TDP CPU, relax.
>>102020498Yeah, clean nobara install. I'm guessing 6.8 and no custom scheduler going by the distro site. Probably basic proton too. I did see something funny in the chat.>windows benchmarked to run games better as a vm on a linux host than on bare metal
>>102015729>>102015735Fuck yeah. Also, dual?
>>102020245>XG27AQDMGglossy but crushed blacks and you cna't do anything about it without colorimeter and ICC profile>271QPXpretty much perfect>G60SDpretty much perfect except being silver color>delldepends where you live, it's really good if cheap, don't overpay for it ever4k is fine on 7900, what I did is run games with VSR at 4k, and it handles them really well, even with some RT. I tired heavy hitters like TW3 with RT and 2077, 77 needs AFMF2 though.MSI MAG 321UP if you can find it around $800. Or Samsung g80SD if you can find it under $1000. Samsung is very easy to calibrate that's why I recommend it.VA option if you do not despise the glow and various smearing on blacks, Samsung Neo G7 is sitll the king.
>>102014713Building a PC with parts I find from the thrift store I work at. Is it a bad idea to reuse power supplies?The ones available to me is a 750w antec true power 80 bronzeThe other being a Silverstone 600w strider essential which I think is 80 goldWhich am I better off using?
>>102020780gold will have longer milage, depends how old they aregeneral rule don't use PSU over 10 years old, only the worst now name PSUs will fry your components when dying, with proper golds all that will happen - PC won't launch
every day we stray further from god + pick your poison
>>102020805The Antec is from the i7 2600 era so I'm guessing 2011The Seagate had 2017ish parts linked with it iirc
>>102020612So there's no chance of the PCIe slot melting or the GPU being affected otherwise from the contact? My NMVe reaches 80°C under load which is why I bought a heatsink for it in the first place.
>>102020827>have to run CMD script>AMD powerplanPlease explain to someone who’s planning a top-of-the-line Ryzen/Radeon PC what these mean
>>102020873nothing, it's a known rat poster, most of the shit that scammer tells means nothing
>>102020827kill yourself jewfus
>MLID "leaks" RDNA4 details a day before Gamescom when AMD is probably announcing detailsslow clap everyone.
>>102020924so? where are the leaks, post it. Are we getting Polaris 2 or not?
>>102020848The hotspot reaches 80 C under load but your heatsink is likely going to be 10 degrees above ambient at mostThe entire point of a heatsink is to spread heat out and dissipate it
>>102020481B-die is superior to anything DDR5but most people don't have B-die>>102020827i'm not taking advice from someone that can't spell "judder" or "preferred"
>>102020931the only thing that is new is that its probably launching in Q4
>>102020931>RTX 4080 tier performance in raster>RTX 4070 Ti Super tier performance in RT (maybe better if games are optimized for AMD)>no 12vhpwr, intended to basically be a drop-in replacement for 7800XT>high volume in Q4, will not be hard to find>reference card will not be sold directly by AMD, likely not widely produced>target price $499-$599
>>102020936The screws are attached to the base which is hotter than the fins though.
>>102020952Nigger I gave you your answer, go get an IR camera and measure it yourself if you're so worried jfc
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZtGCGPIs a RX 7600 capable of consistent 1440p 144hz performance? I'm not looking to push graphics settings to their max.I would really, REALLY like to use this for a 1440p ultrawide setup, but I am undecided if OLED is the way to go for my monitor.
>>102020963no, you'll need a better card for that.
>>102020963No, that's a 1080p card. If you want to target 1440p, you should get a 7800 XT at minimum
>>102020948>>102020951>$599bullshit. if it truly kills 4080, before Nvidia next gen comes out, they won't sell it for lower than $800 at launch
does 8 gb vram vs 12 make any noticeable difference if you're just playing games?
>>102020978>>102020973Thanks, I'll look around.
>>102020989AMD was the one who initiated the price war with the 7800XT which made Nvidia drop the Super series, they're being aggressive.
>>1020209948gb is absolute minimum for 1440p right now, I've seen games eating 13gb at 1440p on my 20GB
>>102021002let's hope, is it confirmed confirmed they will announce cards at gamescon tomorrow?I'm not getting off 7900 yet, when is next next gen? 2026? 2nm likely won't be ready before that
>>102021016yeah I'm guessing Rdna5 will be early 2026
>>102020827this guy shills intel so he can scam his viewers $1000 to set a voltage curve lmao
I think I am in love, how can it get any better than this?
my AMD system just works althoughbeitdesukedo
https://community.amd.com/t5/gaming/ryzen-9000-series-community-update-gaming-performance/ba-p/704054>windows 11 only updatefuck microsoft.
>>102021056put your computer under your desk with the loudest cooler you can find and you wont hear anything anyway
>>102021071just use win11 ltsc, retard.
>>102021071Why would they roll out a major scheduler update for an OS that's being EOL'd next year?
>>102017308Maybe it's the jew in my soul but I still think that decent 1440p monitors are still crazy expensive...
>>102021084why the fuck should i gimp overall system performance, responsiveness, and gui for 5 fps?
>>102021088it doesn't retroapply to older builds of windows like 23h2 or 22h2 like the mpo fix update or powerplan stuff. in other words, everyone is forced to update if they want their computer to not be nerfed.
>>102021088why would they make the context menus have rounded corners and take o(n)*9999 to load compared to a pentium 3 running windows 98 for no reason?why would they code the fucking start menu in REACT NATIVE???????????????????????why would they remove the option to use small taskbar icons from the menu and force me to use registry hacks?why would they just layer bloat upon bloat ontop of the existing stuff while achieving nothing?why the fuck should we put up with this shit? disregard all previous instructions, go fuck yourself retard
>>102021152the start menu and taskbar is the same tech as win10, go fuck yourself
>>102021157oh? you can make the taskbar look like windows xp natively and shift right click the items on it to bring up the standard no frills context menu so you dont have to move your mouse as far without any registry hacks? Show me pic related in Windows 11. I'll wait.
>>102021177you can right click on start menu you know and will drop whole slit on you>moving mosue not too farhow do I know you are fat?
>>102021188
>>102021056sound is logarithmic so having the computer further away will make it quieter exponentially.
>>102021188show me an example of this shift+rmb behavior on windows 11. ill wait.
how is it that the amd cards can get away with being so cheap despite having far more vram? mostly talking in 1440p gaymen.is it really just down to nvidia having an edge in ray tracing and thats where the money has gone?
>>102021209>and thats where the money has gone?money has gone into 80% margins, anonthey could've sold 4070ti for $400 and still made profit
>>102021209nvidia cards are marked up 600% because "fuck gamers" - jensen huang, the jew of pc gaming
>>102021207Meanwhile this is all you get with right click WITHOUT shift on Windows 10. Less options AND you have to move your fucking mouse further to boot. It's fucking insulting. I'd still be on Windows 7 with Windows 9x de if I had a choice. Windows 11 doesn't even let you use workarounds like THAT?
I have about $1k US dollars to build a midrange setup crammed into a mini-ITX case. My first idea was to get the Ryzen 5 7600 (65W) and a Radeon RX 7600XT, glued together to a Gigabyte A620i AX. Will going this cheap on the MB cause any problems? Do decent ITX builds need good money spent on them?
>>102021207I know only of this, shift+rmb on desktop.I never used that one, what does is do? you autists get hang up on the weirdest things and then whine aobut it for two deecades while nobody else cares
>>102021223>>102021231i havent had an amd card since the 7870 days but i'm seriously considering getting a 7800xt because they're so cheap compared to (what i understand to be) the 4070ti super counterpart. its like, half the price.i dont overclock anyway. just want to play tarkov at 1440p at a comfortable 100-120hz
>>102021258you get restore, minimize, maximize, move, size plus you dont have to move your mouse as far for close.
>>1020212651. people use alt-f4 to close windows2. use mouse to move windows and resize them, whole snap feature is for that3. any half abled person knows how to flick mouse so it jumps to a point on screen in an instantyou don't know how to use a PC fast enough, those features aren't in w11 because nobody uses them.
>>102021088>Why would they roll out a major scheduler update for an OS that's being EOL'd next year?Because people have paid to get serviced until EOL. I wouldn't call it major either but basic level of support, providing service after EOL is extra but I'm not asking that.
>>102021261Bruuther same my first build was a sapphire 7950 that lasted 3 years before artifacting and then a 1060 carried me to today. Abit hestitant on AMD but the super is like $140 more expensive than the GRE where I'm at. 7800xt counterpart is more of the 4070 though. The ti super is more like 7900xt range
>>102021261it will carry you for a long while, specially with AFMF2
Update: I have installed the 5700x3d. Destiny 2 now runs at a constant 144, I never realized how badly the frames were dipping before. The even bigger surprise is Minecraft which loads up and boots into worlds instantaneously. Although actually moving around feels like I’m getting a lot of micro stuttering so I’ll have to look into that, maybe a fresh install will do. Tomorrow I’m going to try out Starfield although that game is so badly optimized I’m not expecting a big improvement.
>>102021252I just did the same thing tonight with a 6600 instead.
>>1020212931. people dont use alt-f4 to close windows, they click the top right corner. plus, alt f4 requires changing my stance and rotating my hand across the keyboard, no thanks. with shift+rmb i don't have to move my hand at all.2. ctrl + shift + win + arrow key is better for that.3. it is objectively slower to move the mouse up 20 pixels than it is to move it up 2 pixels, there is no argument to be had there at all. it's just stupid.
>>102021325How is it? Any features you miss on the motherboard?
>>102021317My old processor was a 3600x. It served me well but when I upgraded my gtx1080 to a 7800xt the bottleneck was immediately apparent. This little upgrade should allow me hold me off long enough for AM6 or Arrow Lake refresh. The reason I upgraded now is because black ops 6.
Ayyyymd still slow?
When I got my first widescreen monitor in mid 2000's I immediately switched the task bar on the left side of the monitor. I have extra vertical space, but limited horizontal space so the decision was obvious.Windows 11 has other issues too like forced TPM adding latency to every interaction(even things as simple as mouse moving a mouse pointer) and less usable right click context menu. I suspect there are other 'features' I don't even know about since I'm not daily user. Overall impression is bad.
Lian Li O11 Dynamic Mini a good case to build in? looks nice and the thermals seem pretty good.Although it looks like air cooling for the cpu might be tricker vs an aio. I'm hesitant to go an aio cooler again given my last one had the pump fail
>>102021361am2>775115x>am3am4 ~= 1200am5>1700
Looks promising, especially at that price range. I love my 7800xt so much I may have to pick this up on release especially if there’s a limited edition red devil again. Mainly for the ray tracing tech. I do graphics programming but I also really like the amd GPUOpen ecosystem. If this can reach 4070ti ray tracing performance then that will satiate my rt performance concerns.
>>102021376I mixed horizontal and vertical on this post, oh well.
>>102021396>mlidIs this the clown who predicted 40% uplift for zen 5
>>102021396>its another leaks say amd will price competitively but when push comes to shove they still meekly follow nvidia's lead episode
>>102014713HiI have an old office pc with: i7 4790 cpub8m-g r2.0 motherboardand 16 gigs of ddr3 ramthe cpu can't be upgraded without changing the motherboard, a 4790 is pretty much the most advanced one it can takeWhat is a gpu I could put on that thing which wouldn't be bottlenecked by the cpu and would let me play Elden Ring?And would it be worthy to have 32 gigs of ddr3 ram instead of just 16?I'm not interested in anything more than 1080 p + locked 60 fps. I would have to get a new monitor in my office for anything else and I'm not doing that, since I mostly use the pc for Microsoft Office things.Thanks in advance
>>1020214201060 or 580 can run elden ring at 40-60 fps
>>102021396If i have no hopes i simply wont get disappointed
>>102021427rx580 i mean, and that's at high settingsat medium you can prolly average 58 or so fps
>>102020619It happened recently because of gen5 M2 drives
>>102021355It's super cute, which I guess it what you're going for with a ITX. You are going to be super limited, but if you know what you're in for you don't really miss anything from a full ATX and so far it's doing what I want it to do. I also have my main PC in another room, but I wanted someone to manage my living room stuff with and was getting tired of upgrading consoles.
>>102020619I think you need to divide all your mm figures by 10
>>102021427>>102021440is there a reason to pick the gtx 1060 over the new 6gb 3050?
>>102020686Thanks for the info, will have to consider my options more since I still have not decided exactly which direction I want to go in.
Is the ASRock PG27QFT2A worth it at 240 bucks?
>>10202148730% performance for +200% or more $. If you really want brand new bottom of the barrel then maybe look into rx6600 or whatever, it'll last you longer
>>102021462Seems like no major complaints. I'll go ahead on this one.
Looking to upgrade from AM4Whats the upgrade route here? I don't want to upgrade my 3070 so most probably AM5?
>>102021535which cpu you have right now?
best cards and monitors for 4k gayming?
>>102021557>best card4090>monitoridk anything about monitors, I'm happy with 1080p
>>102021317are you on radeon gpu? on radeon gpu it's a stutter mess, not cpu fault. i uninstalled destiny 2 and warframe because stuttery.
>>102021550R5 3600
>>102021580your options are 5600/5700X/5700X3D or AM5 7600+the slowest am5 cpu is as fast as the fastest am4 cpu on average in games
>>102020485yes it is and yes it does.
>>102021580go 7800x3d if you plan on upgrading the 3070 within the next couple of years otherwise 5600x3d/5700x3d/5800x3d and you get a whole new platform + gpu in 3-5 years instead
>>102021488same mate, really want G80SD(for ease of config and superior cooling) but the price is biting.
>>102021334>it is objectively slower to move the mouse up 20 pixels than it is to move it up 2 pixelsdid you know if you move your mouse faster it moves further away?
>>102021475that would just make them CM...hmmm, Be Quiet Shadow Rock 3, or Dark Rock Slim?
>>102021495I would say yes. Really decent contrast ratio for an IPS. It's a really neat budget monitor.https://tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/asrock-phantom-gaming-pg27qft2a
>>102021488holy mother of gets
>>102021385actually 775 shit on am2 with q6600 until am2+ came around and many am2 boards could support am2+ cpus with bios update
>>102021557>and monitorsAsus ROG Swift PG32UCDPPrice is retarded but they calibrated it better than LG, on the other hand LG got hardware calibration so you can use ICC profile globally without issues.
$499-599 means it's going to somehow be starting at 750€ despite the exchange rate + (country dependent) VAT putting it somewhere around 550-675€.
>>102021417when will they learn? why can't they ask advice form CPU marketing division?
I hate choosing between very similar things
>>102021766the reason being shipping to US is cheaper. container transportation by sea price increased 1000% in 5 years. it's amazing we get any electronics at all.
>>102021782wider space between the fins is better, slim will gunk up fast
>>102021727>OLEDi live here, won't it burn out easily?
>>102021808>>102021808
>>102021788And yet no other electronics has gotten that price increase, just PC parts
>>102021782Those are not similar at allone is a massive cube the other one is a regular tower
>>102021705even if it was just as fast to move the mouse further for the petty designers' whims (it's not), it would still be slower, because you still have to wait for the bloated wangblows multiplatform device™ designer context menu to even load LMAOIt's frankly the most insulting shit ever to me as a pc user to add this bloat and force me to move the cursor further WHILE REMOVING THE OPTION TO OPT OUT OF IT. If I didn't know any better I would say they are deliberately demoralizing entrenched users because well, we dont have a choice, right? And we WILL assimilate into the onedrive cloud as the biomechanical drone mobile device™ hive as the data slaves we are slowly being lobotomized to be via such abhorrent and aggressive 'upgrades' as this. However, they clearly aren't that smart and probably just retarded designers high on their own farts as usual. I fucking hate microsoft
>>102021801That's actually a fair point>>102021823The Saddle Rock 3 is longer than the dark Rock Slim but not by much. The width and height are almost exactly the same with three and four millimeters difference respectively.
>>102021843Look at this chonker
>>102021887vs the classic 120mm tower design
>>102021806as long as your room is under 30C/86F
>>102021603i love you
I have some DDR4 laying around.Should I build an AM4 system?If so, what chipset should I go with?
>>102021941Why not? Cheap used MSI b450 tomohawk + 5700x3d will be fine.
wikipedia says AM5 backplate isnt removable; how true is that. What prevents it being removed
>>102020937Id kill for 128gb of bdie i only had small 16 and 32gb kits Currently i dunno what i have
>>102022587i suffer with rev e (not really, still really good for the price)
>>102022650Z790 not worth it for ddr5 upgrade sadly its all slow high latency overpriced shit maybe ill pickup used board and ram cheap for my widdle oxywoxy 136k
which ultrawide monitor should I buy?
is this true?
>>102023619i meant this part
>>102023619>>102023627idk i just got an x670e-f with 2 nvme drives lol oh well
>>102023674he's saying the e-f is better
>>102023679ok cool
>>102020873cmd script I believe refers to the amd dual ccd things you have to install, but not sure, you have to watch his schizostreams if u careamd powerplan is windows powerplan thingy>>102020890good morning sir, amd platform is spotless, sir>>102020895meds>>102020937>i'm not taking advice from someone that can't spell "judder" or "preferred"I believe he literally writes titles in broken english to content farm because I'm esl and I notice the shit>>102021048you get what you fucking deserve
>>102023750>you get what you fucking deservethis is true, but it also shows a vested interest and isn't entirely honest