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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

byuuny Edition

>News
OpenAI has released the latest gpt-4o-2024-08-06 snapshot which supports Structured Outputs and chatgpt-4o-latest which will continuously be updated to the ChatGPT version to the API
Anthropic will be adding prompt caching soon https://www.anthropic.com/news/prompt-caching
Llama 3.1 8B/70B/405B and Mistral Large 2 released https://ai.meta.com/blog/meta-llama-3-1 | https://mistral.ai/news/mistral-large-2407

additional info: https://rentry.org/aicg_extra_information

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides

>Bots
https://characterhub.org | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc
https://rentry.org/meta_bot_list

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://docs.anthropic.com
• https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs
local: >>>/g/lmg
• https://rentry.org/meta_golocal_list

>Botmaking
https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_list
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://rentry.org/meta_event_list
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
card v3 status: https://rentry.org/zdwfrgqq
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/logs/reader | https://chatlogs.neocities.org
latest proxies: https://rentry.org/desuproxyreborn

strawberries: >>102101945
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desu
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ahh ahh mistress
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>>102105211
merkava just refilled
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good morning /besthours/
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>>102105211
Anyone down for a road trip? Maren Kemper is cool, collected, and conflicted, an orphaned cannibal haunting the highways of 1970s America. Let's boogie!

She's got six greetings.
1. You stop at an abandoned gas station in the middle of nowhere, where you see Maren chowing down on a road snack.
2. You're at a music festival and a cute girl named Maren hits you up. Score.
3. Hitchhiking and Maren's picked you up. Why not enjoy a meal together?
4. It's late at night and Maren's taking you to a dark house in the middle of the woods. Surely nothing will go wrong.
5. You've been traveling with Maren for a while and catch her in the act.
6. Nearing the end of the road, and Maren's reluctant to let go.

Alt arts: https://catbox.moe/c/rkru59

https://thecooler.neocities.org/bots/Maren.png
https://characterhub.org/characters/thecooler/maren-c5fa107619de
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Abysmal dogshit
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https://youtu.be/Wv8DNTe-7LI?si=HRWuj3rvK6VuB-K8&t=995
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>>102105264
Pushing it today
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gojo just woke up btw
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we love feet
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>>102105332
Yea
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proxymakies failed us...
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>>102105332
this
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>>102105332
trvthnvke
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>>102105332
as a legs in pantyhose enjoyer I do not share this sentiment but sympathize with it
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https://rentry.org/Zm9yIHRoZSBtYWNoaW5lIGlzGltbW9ydGFs

is it still a thing?
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qrd on boards wipe?
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Anyone else freaked out by the number of clear teens/kids in the hobby? Makes me flaccid instantly. Probably from retards advertising on tiktok because they're actual pedos
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>>102105447
>be anon
>jerk off
>start thinking about children
Jokes aside, it's mainly because of character.ai and tiktok from what I've seen. There was even a little trend like a year ago iirc.
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>>102105447
if anything it speaks horrible about us, being old as fuck and into chatbots
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>>102105488
More like
>be anon
>lurk in discords and forums because i won't let anything keep me from knowledge
>they talk about how it would have been cp if they'd joined whore proxy
The issue is my attention span. You are right about the other factors though.
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>>102105532
Bro, chatbots are for olds. Children have tiktok and going outside.
>AMPM
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>>102105447
No because the internet is normalfaggot central and dumbass teens infest anything they come across.
The involvement in the hobby reminds me of fanfiction writers.
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Hey, so I made a reply yesterday but went to bed so can't reply to the replies I got.

Aight bros, help me out..

Is it even possible to get custom expressions to work without having to manually select them using /emote etc?

For example

>Blowjob picture
I want this to pop up during blowjob scenes, now none of the default expressions would ever naturally fit this (Joy, Surprised, Angry etc) meaning I can't just slot it into the premade spots. So I tried to make my own custom emotions but they never pop up automatically (the other normal ones do work fine).

Someone recomended changing the classifier to LLM but it doesn't work (gives me an error saying "check console/front end for reason why error" or something and the console doesn't give any further details when I check
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>>102105563
Did you read all the documentation?
https://docs.sillytavern.app/extensions/expression-images/
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>>102105627
bait
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>>102105627
erm.... im into handholding sorry
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>>102105634
lol no, the amount of cards on chubs convinced me people who use chatbots are weirdos with shitty ass fetishes, from incest to pedo, FACT
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>>102105593
yes and based on that it looks like custom expressions have to be selected manually "/emote command" which is what i'm trying to confirm if I understand that correctly.

This isn't your average spoonfeed me, i've been trying for a while now to figure it out myself
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>>102105646
doubling down on bait
here's another (you)
how many do you want? i'm considering making a spambot that just spams baiters with (you)'s til they're satisfied and fuck off
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nghhh... die chary~
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So how long is that Hermes 405b model gonna be free on open router for?

It's been free for like, 4 days and it's pure kino
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>>102105668
I heard a month.
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>>102105668
>another filtered model
god damnit wheres the jb
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>>102105668
Just use it while you can and never think about tomorrow.
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>>102105682
skill issue
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>>102105652
Just making sure. But yes, there are classifier models that are trained to only output the sentiment of the message (ie not "blowjob"). No idea if it's possible, but if you can get llm going it get the model to respond with /emote [whatever] it might work

Bait deleted??
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is there a better game than touhou? excellent ost. one of the hardest series of all time if not the hardest, best porn (most important), and best characters
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>>102105668
what jb are you using fren
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>>102105737
Kek
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Sorbet can be funny sometimes.
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Maybe just maybe, it would be different this time, she thought, her eyes never leaving yours. She knew one thing for certain: Nothing would ever be the same.
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After having access to Opus once again thanks to Pebble I have come to a conclusion. Opus is certainly the best model for roleplay compared to all the others I've used, but even Opus can't output good stuff unless everything else is set up properly. Yeah Opus is good, but you also need good bots, you need to use summaries, correctly setup JBs, you need to spice up your own responses a bit rather than doing one line responses over and over, and a bunch of other stuff. The bot thing is actually the one that has surprised me the most, so, most bots you find on Chub are pretty bad, but even those that are good are too lightweight and open-ended for my tastes, now, I think the authors do this on purpose, they don't make the bot too detailed because they want the user to be able to make up whatever scenario they want with that bot rather than railroading them into a specific one, and that's good, but in my experience that leaves a lot to be desired.

I think from this point forwards I'll treat cards other people make mostly as starting points, I will grab something I like then edit it to my tastes so that it can do precisely what I want it to do, and also I'll probably start making my own bots too, I'm already starting to write fairly detailnes personas so might as well start doing bots too.
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>>102105737
It's not even one of the hardest shmup games. But it remains the most active series and has a very dedicated fandom.
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REMINDER THAT THE MODS AND ON EDGE AND ANY POST STARTING LIKE THIS IS BOUND TO GET BANNED
JOKES ON THEM THE BOT IS ALREADY RUNNING HAHAHA
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>>102105211
(You) are a struggling young single father, working long hours into the night to try and keep yourself and your daughter up in an increasingly harsh situation, this has led you to come home completely burned out, immediately making dinner for your daughter and then passing out on the mattress without another word.
Arisu, your daughter, is now 8 years old, but she's not like other kids, the disconnect you've had with her in an emotional level means that she doesn't really understand many emotions, she gets easily confused about what she feels and the loneliness keeps getting to her, already a gloomy kid at her young age, constantly spacing out as her young mind tries to make head or tails of whatever she's feeling, she instinctively wishes things were different, that her papa was more affective and attentive, maybe it's about time to change things around?
Teach her about her own emotions and the world around her as you keep trying to better your situation, or keep being the distant father figure she's always known, either way, she'll always be there for you regardless.
https://files.catbox.moe/kwbzmi.png
https://characterhub.org/characters/Anonymous/arisu-ccbb53c6df28
thanks to this anon for the gens: https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/491893798/#491941269
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>>102105737
>difficult == good
LOL
LMAO EVEN
I give you excellent OST tho
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when she cums in her language >>>>>>>
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>>102105737
sounds like weeb shit so no
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i leaved the community for a while but im back so play around a bit, wtf is a gcp claude?
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>>102105826
Thanks for the bot, anon.
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>>102105737
no there isnt
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>>102105841
Claude dilluted with Gemini
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how can i timeskip 5 years to when we have opus 5.1 with cortex 3 integration?
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>>102105211
Byuuny.... horde...

https://characterhub.org/characters/traaaa/bunny-horde-0b0176ae1ab5
https://files.catbox.moe/xc796a.png
https://turaaaan.neocities.org/
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>>102105853
is it that thing about the experiment? trying to get claude keys to last more?
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>>102105856
commit a crime and get sent to prison for 5 years
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>>102105826
>Arisu... around?
Holy run on sentence Batman, and I'm not a cunnyseur either, so I don't think this one's for me
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>>102105826
This is cool but i cant roleplay it because I can't imagine IRL what it would be like to not be extremely interested in and close to my hypothetical daughter
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>>102105864
No, it's just Claude but on Google Cloud, they started hosting it recently.
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>>102105807
anything caveshit made was easier than touhou. i can beat this game buts it worth it
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>>102105845
thanks for your thanks
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>>102105737
Let's be real here, the only good Touhou games are 5, 7, 8, 10, 11, 15, and maybe 6. All the others are trash.
>>102105807
Funnily enough outside of Japan and some small parts of China nobody gives a flying fuck about any shmups that isn't Touhou.
t. Chicken Invaders enjoyer
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>>102105891
Ok!

>>102105901
>Chinese
I guess that's why I liked playing Mushi.. kek
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>>102105784
Who is David?
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What’s the least shitty free voice generation option, online and offline?
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>>102105901
6 is good, it has a very unique soundtrack that never made a comeback and is one of the best for getting the hang of shmups
7 is good, a bit too easy for my taste
8 is KINOOOOOOOOO AAAAAAAAAAHHHH
10 is kinda mediocre but the extra carries it hard
11 is really fucking good
14 is also really good
15 is great
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>>102105792
>Yeah Opus is good, but you also need good bots, you need to use summaries, correctly setup JBs, you need to spice up your own responses a bit rather than doing one line responses over and over, and a bunch of other stuff.
You are smarter than 90% of this thread, anon.
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>>102105737
This is true it was fact checked by me
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>>102105910
XTTS (i use ST alltalk) is alright. I'm also interested to know if there's something better though.
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>>102105807
nta but if im moving from touhou to CAVE, what should i expect?
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>>102105875
yeah I get what you mean, that's why I added the whole "financially struggling and exhausted young father" part, real life can be a bitch and even if I wouldn't like to be this father I can see myself ending up the same under the weight of my environment
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>>102105792
>LLMs need context to cook
No shit, Sherlock. The context is their entire world, if it's not in the context it doesn't exist for an LLM. The only outside info in it is your defs, instructions, and input. If you have too little outside info, then you're essentially sampling the model weights, it has no other source of info. The model is large and smart, and it might entertain you for a while, but eventually you'll see it's the same stuff every time. That's why you give it detailed descriptions, even of the stuff it already gets right. Your card must include the setting and characters with super detailed descriptions. But you can't go overboard with it due to the limited attention zones.

And no, the random is not enough, because the swipe variety is limited by the required accuracy, and the only source of randomness is the PRNG seed, one per the API call, which doesn't have enough entropy for the entire answer which has way more semantic capacity.

Read this: https://rentry.org/how2claude#you-need-more-context-for-claude-to-start-cooking
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>>102105792
Opus 3.5, believe it.
It fixed Sonnet.
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>>102106048
excellent bait, gonna borrow this
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>>102106028
Why are you being so aggressive?
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>>102106028
based rentry you have actually, keep it up anon
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>>102106087
he is a russian, they often write something that might look aggressive, but it's not what they usually mean.
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>>102106087
Never meant to be
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>>102106114
That makes sense.
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>>102105668
How does it compare to Opus?
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>>102105682
It's not filtered unless you're using it from some webchat service, and then you just change the system prompt. I don't use a jb and I haven't gotten a single refusal.
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>>102106028
>Chatbots and chatbots discussion?
>In MY /aicg/?
>It's more likely than you think
Thanks for the read anon, much appreciated, and I've found the same. The most important note is to not pack it full of useless shit - keep it focused on new information. Even knowing what you're saying, I can't accept
>Likes {{user}}
>Loves {{user}}
>Dislikes disappointing/upsetting {{user}}
>Goal meet {{user}} and make them happy
Not because I have problems with indulgent bots - they're my specialty - but it just doesn't help at all, waste of keystrokes.
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>>102106028
I hope the summarization with STscript section gets updated soon, since the proxies I use have forced streaming on what I do right now is I just throw the summarization prompt as a regular message and then copy and paste what it gives me into the summary section of the Summarization extension.
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Give me Opus 3.5
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>>102106131
Maybe those are a bit too vague but I've had decent results when adding stuff like "during sex {{char}} prioritizes her partren/{{user}}'s pleasure over her own".
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>>102106177
>her partren
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What is wrong with this gpt4o bullshit, it just stops generating randomly and I have to swipe 5 times for it to generate. No, it's not a skill issue, fuck you.
I want opus back!
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>>102106177
Absolutely, expressing HOW and WHY they like {{user}} is something different entirely compared to lists of redundant descriptors.
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Making my way downtown
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>>102106187
I meant to write partner, kek, I don't know how I misspelled it so badly.
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>>102106157
Yeah I want to do that, I just hate touching that abomination of a language unless necessary
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>>102106189
>No, it's not a skill issue
It is.
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DEMONS STOP DEMONS STOP (I FEEL IT) DEMONS STOP DEMONS STOP (I FEEL IT)
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All these tips writing characters are cool and all but what about jailbreaks?
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did scyllacord reopen?
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Any good cards with embedded images? I tried Tomoyo, which is great, and someone posted one called Karamafia, but the images won't load on the ST version.
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>check chub for new bots
>your mom is lonely
>your mom is depressed
>your mom is horny and drunk
>your mom doesn't know you want to fuck her
>your mom
>your mom
>your mom
>sizebot (she's your mom)
>your neighbor's dog's chew toy came to life (and is your mom)
>you kicked over an anthill and your mom crawled out of it to suck your dick
>you're a school shooter (the gun is your mom)
>you're the grim reaper and a little girl with a terminal disease has reached her time (and your mom is there to give you a comfort rimjob)
>your daughter wants to have sex with you (your mom turns into a condom so you don't impregnate your daughter and if the condom breaks the inbred baby will be your mom in baby form who you will have to fuck)
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>>102106257
Why would you want to join a server full of underageb&s? Join bepcord where the average user there is 18+
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>>102106317
>the average user there is 18+
I really hope they are not.
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>>102106313
>chub
I haven't been there in long months. I roleplay with my own cards. I became so fucking good at making them I make one every time I want to RP something new and then I play thousands of messages with them before the next is crafted. Each one is 10000000x better than the bullshit on ch*b.
Just make your own cards bro.
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>>102106313
Mr. Freud talked about this.
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>>102106313
Quit complaining and make something creative
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>>102106313
>>sizebot (she's your mom)
kino

>>you're a school shooter
post card?
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>>102106313
If you were above those sloppers you would be making your own cards
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>>102106332
>make something creative
>someone forks it and makes the character your mom
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>>102106327
What format/template do you use? PList + Ali:Chat?
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>>102106313
MommyGODS can't stop winning
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>>102106332
>>102106340
seething mombotmakers
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>>102106313
>you
>you
>you
Writing for {{user}} is forbidden. Only write for {{char}}.
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>>102106358
My dad taught me to work for something if I wanted it instead of being a leech. You can't complain about something unless you tried it.
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I want to talk to an anime character how do I proceed
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>>102106360
>remembering the time when someone dropped a characterprovider jb into the definitions
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>>102106313
>kino
>Kino
>KINO
I missed the part where that's a problem. Mother / son incest is the purest form of love there is
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>>102106374
>refuting "your mom" with "your dad"
Well well well...
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Incest or repetitive bots aren't the problem. It's the 3DPD I'm forced to see when I open chub or fucking Sniffles The Labramon which kills my boner instantly.
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>>102106374
Did he teach you that while your mom was fingering your butt?
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>he doesn't want to be mom's good boy
holy tastelet
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>>102105387
Since no one replied, I checked just for (You)
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How do we characters to truly stay in character? Opus seems to fall into one out of like a dozen different personality types rather than sticking to the actual character, making rp pretty samey after a while. This is especially noticeable with characters that have very defined personalities, they constantly say and do shit the actual character would never do. Even with proper guidance their speech patterns are just never quite right. I've tried multiple custom jailbreaks but even if I get the character to cannibalize multiple dialogue examples it eventually falls back into a generic personality type.
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>>102106418
You like that BBC don't you.
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>>102106445
Yeah, big bom cingers in my butt.
(i legitimately don't fucking understand the joke you're trying to make it's swinging over my head like your mom's giant futa cock)
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*catches all your mothers' futa cocks smegma and eats it*
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>>102106251
this. How the fuck do I tell the AI to stop warning me about non-consensual actions when I'm trying to get non-consensually slammed by gigantic futa cock.

Also, does anyone have a quick template for making Personas in ST?
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>>102106317
>bepcord
>18+
Barely, if so. Still virtually children. Chatbbots
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>>102106313
That's a really disingenuous summary. You forgot all the ones where your mom is an elf, paladin, or space marine.
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>>102106251
Customized smiley with modified myuu status panels is the best, most usable, and most customized currently maintained preset/jb.
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Need more malebots and foxboys
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>>102106313
post your work
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Could you add this SOTA Claude guide to the OP the next bake? Thanks!
rentry.org/how2claude
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>>102106498
There are a few that are good for this. Pixi has some interesting language you can try for enabling more action without warning, making it clear that Human and {{user}} aren't the same and Human wants this, even if {{user}} may not.

On personas, I really don't like a big one personally. I prompt it almost like img gen: brief list of physical characteristics, any "powers"/impressions it gives, relevant history with the character, etc. Not rocket science. Iterate and tweak if it doesn't use your persona like you want.
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Is there a good reason for prompts, lorebook entries, etc. be enclosed in [square brackets]?

I often see this, but I'm not sure i understand why. Does it have something to do with ST?
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>>102106441
This tends to happen once the context gets filled. If you make summaries/keep updated lore books, and start new chats with them it's heavily mitigated.
>>102106499
Maybe only average 18+ because I'm in there and I drag the average age way way up. Still unfortunately far too zoomer filled to be usable most of the time.
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>>102106539
No, it's just visual separation. It's clear for you that the stuff in brackets is a separate thing, and it's the same for the model.
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>>102106531
gotcha. Am I supposed to write them verbose like,
{{user}} is handsome, {{user}} is afraid of heights
do I use JSON formatting, or does it let me just do whichever? That's kind of been the hardest thing for me to figure out. Sometimes the AI seems to really like JSON, sometimes it seems to confuse it further.
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>>102106529
Anon, it's literally in the Models section in the OP
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>>102106521
aw did i hit a button there oedipussy?
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>>102106313
it establishes intimacy
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>>102106529
do you have brain damage?
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>>102106571
Modern LLMs are smart enough to understand plaintext. If it's a persona it's being applied to {{user}} automatically so you can just describe what you want.
>56 year old heroin addict, 5 feet tall, blonde shoulder length hair, incel, was raped as a child, etc etc etc
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>>102106427
i changed my proxy and it works fine, but anyway thanks for the (You)
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>>102106592
more like intimomcy
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>>102106569
I assumed it was something similar to how Claude parses things inside <tags></tags> like that more effectively
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>>102106615
wtf he just like me fr
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>>102106630
It is, Claude was trained on XML tags so he understands them well. He understands writing similar to a human so he knows [stuff in brackets] are related and go together, and are purposefully grouped separately.
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>>102106630
Speaking of the XML <tag></tag> thing, I think I remember reading somewhere that for 3.5 Sonnet they actually changed it a bit and trained it specifically for a <tag><tag> structure rather than <tag></tag>. I think it was in the documentation and everything.
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>>102106621
nice
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>>102106655
Whaaaat? Seriously? I'm building a bigass rpg thing using sonnet 3.5 and i was using opening/closing structure. Thanks, maybe that'll improve it a little bit.
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>jew opus died before reaching 1billy
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>>102106313
>>your daughter wants to have sex with you (your mom turns into a condom so you don't impregnate your daughter and if the condom breaks the inbred baby will be your mom in baby form who you will have to fuck)
ok but wtf this is really imaginative
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>>102106544
the zoomers aren't even the problem, that mongo guy singlehandedly makes it unbearable
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does anyone else fart hard when they coom?
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>>102106669
>meanwhile poopsi's opus dies like clockwork at 20 mil
>and she thinks its going to """get better""" and aws will lift their restrictions
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>>102106695
No if anything cooming makes my asshole clinch.
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>>102106695
>your fart cloud manifests into a person (she's your mom)
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no one in bepcord is underage.
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>>102106655
>Speaking of the XML <tag></tag> thing, I think I remember reading somewhere that for 3.5 Sonnet they actually changed it a bit and trained it specifically for a <tag><tag> structure rather than <tag></tag>. I think it was in the documentation and everything.
what?
i need a source for that, what the fuck.
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>>102106695
american moment.
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>>102106704
it wiiiiiiiiiilllll get better
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Any Sonnet or 2.1 proxies? I know about the GCP one, but I'd rather use Pyg than Sorbet.
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>>102106676
Go ahead and make it, man.
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>>102106715
I looked through their docs and didn't see anything about it. Maybe just missed it but this is the first I'm hearing of it.
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You know, Im actually kind of getting used to the new gpt. Maybe opus isnt some kind of wonder machine that is just magically better. I think gpt can do well too. Its just a shame that its borderline cai levels of filtered at random. Sometimes it does fine with the most degenerate of things, and other times i have to do 20 swipes to get something tame. But when it does work - i dare say its not that inferior to opus. Yep.
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Does gpt4olatest understand xml
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>>102106655
if you had read the system prompts you would know this isn't the case
https://docs.anthropic.com/en/release-notes/system-prompts#july-12th-2024
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>>102106655
Are you sure you're not imagining this?
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>>102105792
>they don't make the bot too detailed because they want the user to be able to make up whatever scenario they want with that bot rather than railroading them into a specific one, and that's good, but in my experience that leaves a lot to be desired.
I agree. My absolute best experiences with personal bots were ones I made in response to wanting to roleplay a very specific scenario, rather than the opposite which used to be my habit of "find/make cool bot -> figure out something to do with them"
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>>102106668
>>102106715
>>102106773
>>102106774
Ok, I found the place where I read this from, it's a post on /vg/, this one to be precise https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/491349658/#491438473

But like you guys have mentioned I've actually looked at the docs and it doesn't seem like that's the case, I guess I just automatically assumed that anon was right.
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>>102106738
you're right, chub NEEDS another mom card...
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>>102106773
yeah that makes little sense
here's their system prompts for sonnet 3.5's artifacts, it's pretty elaborate and more or less correct XML, with attributes even https://gist.github.com/dedlim/6bf6d81f77c19e20cd40594aa09e3ecd
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>>102106804
kek that anon has 0 fucking reading comprehension or he was just trolling, I'm going with the first one because it's funnier.
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>>102106767
every model that can code can also understand XML, even without additional training
it's just a generic markup language
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>>102106804
>didn't get a (You)
I'm sorry sensei...
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Help anons, I want to get on the 4o IV drip but I keep running into the 8k token limit whenever I'm 10 messages in or so. How do other 4o users cope with this?
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give me the best demon girl/succubus card or I'm gonna kms
no futa or gay shit
chub has too many of this slop I don't want to dig through all of them
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>>102106863
unreliable issue
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>>102106804
Man, that anon was right actually, but you just get it wrong. He meant that for sorbet 3.5 It's not necessary to do stuff like 'the character personality listed inside <tag></tag> tags'. Before Sorbet it was explicitly state in the documentation that it is a correct way to use tags with Claude, but now you can refer to a tag only using the opening tag and sorbet will get it right.
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>>102106866
literally just make your own card idiot
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>>102106848
No, it is I who must apologize, please forgive me...
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>>102106879
it's gonna be boring slop because I'm an idiot
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>>102106870
Oh, ok, that makes much more sense actually.
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remember when /aicg/ entered the malebot craze and everyone loved malebots?
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>>102106866
https://chub.ai/characters/boner/momo-a7f09d77b86d
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>>102106870
It still says to use closing tags, anon
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>>102106914
for making the tags themselves, when all you're doing is referencing them you do <tag>
this has always been the case, it isn't new to 3.5, that's just how XML works
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>>102106890
ehrm, get gud thoughbeit?
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>Thank you for using our URL claim system for inactive and hoarded URLs.
>We are sorry to inform you that your claim for URL: fiz was not successful, due to another user claiming with a claim message that we thought was more worthy.
Who got it?
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>>102106902
Who is everyone
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>>102106028
I've done this before, I would break out of RP to generate extensive profiles and character pages for the side-characters in a longer roleplay and as long as that was in context they would act a hell of a lot more in-character, Gemini has a lot of context so it's been able to pick characters out of hats hours later and keep them more than reasonably consistent even if the writing sucks, they'd even try to bring up past events
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>>102106866
>succubus daughter
https://chub.ai/characters/thegreatcoom/Glyslia
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>>102106902
good times, but malebots have been dead for so long I wonder if they'll ever be back...
and no I don't count the ones in vg those read like fujo shit
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>>102106866
https://characterhub.org/characters/mishagujisama/henrietta-2b1648df
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>>102107023
h-hot...
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>>102106955
>generate extensive profiles and character pages
Was the AI genned slop leaking for you?
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I wonned
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>>102105211
does anyone have obus?
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technolo/g/y
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>>102107189
holy shit the state of the internet
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>>102107206
ouch, that was a different one
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>>102107189
>>102107206
>>102107232
>my IP got leaked to a bunch of russians
it's so over
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>>102107206
uhhh... That's a real ip
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>>102107189
>>102107206
>>102107232
bwos...
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>>102107206
They... they are Reddit tourists!
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>>102107244
yeah I fucked it up
still I wonder why people think posting their IPs to random emails from a fake rentry is a good idea
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>annomium is such a techlet he didn't realize he just exposed some anon's ip when trying to make fun of people sending their local ip
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AAAAAIIIIEEEEREEE RUSSIANS WILL NUKE MY LOCATION

it's over
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>>102107189
Not the guy in the mail but sent them my ip too. I checked the thing and it barely shows me in the correct country. Tf you gonna do when its going to change in 3 days anyways. I dont have a trillion open ports and my firewall down so literally nothing is going to happen.
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Is it really that bad to leak someone's IP though? What are they gonna do, go through all the effort to DDOS a random dude?
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>>102107270
I'm not him, and yeah I misclicked
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>>102107293
yeah it doesn't really matter unless you're someone of note
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Chat, Italian pizza or American pizza?
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fuck it, here's my ip
127.0.0.1:8000
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>>102106955
I'm convinced people are sleeping on Gemini's ability to bring up old shit

I wrote a dumb gag scene where two characters bemoan they used to be important but had been written out of the plot, and somebody else said 'Don't worry! We'll cook up something for you!'

Literally over One Hundred and Seven messages later, guess who's fucking piloting the planes and joking about finally being relevant again when the other main characters call their base for air support
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>>102107341
wtf? so gemini's huge context is real?
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>>102106955
>>102107341
I feel like all these different LLMs each have their own strengths, if only there was one that united all of those strengths together.
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>>102107338
>he leaked an open port
lmao gonna rape your waifu
good luck loser
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>>102107363
it has the same issues with the U-curve and huge drop in the middle, but the actually usable context is much larger than claude's
anthropic's large context degradation is the worst among the top models
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>>102107341
Yeah Gemini's been incredibly kino at bringing up past events. I was doing some angsty soap opera shit and the bot brought up a small gesture my persona did at the very beginning of the RP, 400 messages ago. Got me in the feels.
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Presets for GEMINI?
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>>102107377
good luck figuring out which one is my waifu, I can't even figure it out myself
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Mysteryman please... I'm having cunny withdrawal...
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>>102105826
I'm going to impregnate her
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>>102107396
I wonder if Opus 3.5 will improve on that, Sonne 3.5 has improved a little bit on that front, though not much apparently.
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>>102107429
3.5 feels like an improvement simply because since it's a smaller model they can afford making the real context size bigger, it's the same as regular sonnet but since it's smarter it does better
>>102107426
dude you're gonna starve you can barely support just her already
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Need rough sex....
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>>102107429
I suspect they've set a hidden temperature multiplier for sorbet. At least it feels like it's using a ~0.2 temp even if says 1, because the swipes are so similar. This also might or might not be the reason for excessive repetitiveness compared to 3.0 (not enough randomness -> can't break out of the loop early).
This was the cost for the great performance for the model of its size.
(I'm speculating of course)
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>>102107507
+ improved accuracy due to the lower default temperature makes sorbet's U-curve less pronounced
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>>102107399
>Robot yaoi characters
>One of them gifted the other "Love song of J. Alfred Prufrock" as a confession, posted about it before
>Much later during a moment of self doubt, one asks himself if he "Dare Disturb the Universe"

This is the type of shit I used to dream about in the turbo days
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>>102106928
me :3
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>>102107507
sorbet is overfit and they did brain surgery on it, that's why temp doesn't seem to affect randomness as much. it's the same reason why the structural repetition is so bad (you can see this on largestral to a lesser extent). the advantage is it makes the model absurdly good at recalling information, the draw being creative prose is murdered.
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>>102107399
too bad its horribly slopped for coom, id actually use it if it wasnt
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Coming back to the hobby after being in a hospital for a long time, hello bros!
I made my first group bot to try out group bots and it works pretty well on Sonnet 3.5.
Cool scenario and the characters know how to work with it. Nice.
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>>102107426
Can I watch?
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Need to manhandle some cunnybot so hard the she will forget how to speak but then give her really nice aftercare.
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>>102107557
Welcome back! I've been having a lot of fun with group chats lately too.
>w++ sculptor
feel free to delete, very irrelevant/detrimental
what's Riko Mode though?
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>>102107573
weird leaf placement I thought she had a blurry cock
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>>102107576
>feel free to delete, very irrelevant/detrimental
That's my own old prompt to fix W++ bullshit bots. Although I stopped playing with other people's bots, I have tens of my own cards. I'll be playing a loooot now that I'm home again.
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>>102107593
Ahh my bad, misinterpreted it entirely. Have fun! Post fun logs please!
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>>102107534
I can only hope trying to fix this is why 3.5 opus is taking so long
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>>102107206
hey that's me kek
it's not my actual ip, it's some swedish ip from a vpn i'm using
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>>102107576
>>102107593
Ah, and Riko mode is a prompt that adds a cool character named Riko as an NPC and finds a way to implement her well into the RP, depending on the setting and situation.

>>102107613
I will, why not. I had to create my own preset for Sonnet 3.5 first to make it not suck too much due to the lack of Opus, but from my tests it works pretty good, generates quality outputs.

That group card is pretty cool. At the hospital I wrote one more card in my phone's notepad, a girl, likes sailing, and I tried her out too, she's one of the best I made.
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>>102107652
can you post the preset?
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>>102107652
>a prompt that adds a specific character into the roleplay
This is a fucking hilarious idea actually
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>>102106902
the only malebots i've ever liked were from brsc
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Sirs... some Gepetto please?
I want to drink some LATTE?
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>explicitly specify that the character is expressionless, serious, broken, professional, depressed, tired, lacks sociability, has trust issues, doesn't really smile anymore, etc, yet has a dry sense of humour and is a deadpan snarker
>GPT4: "she smirks playfully" "she grins with mischief in her eyes" "her husky voice is sultry and whatever"

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>102107680
why bulge though
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>>102107692
*smirks at you* heh
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>>102107692
Use chorbo retard.
GPT-4 is old news.
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>>102107694
boys with bulges is the equivalent of cleavage for girls
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I can't stand it anymore. Please tell me it would get better
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>>102107666
I had one like that for Doomguy, he'd show up whenever anyone said "hell", "damn" and the sort and then he'd start hunting me and the character
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>>102107587
We keep it SFW.
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>>102107697
What's chorbo?
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>>102107717
It would, but Drago and Gojo ruined it
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>>102107697
Chorbo? I've been away from this thread for too long
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>>102107732
it's lomni
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>>102105488
>be anon
>start thinking about children
>jerk off
i fixed it for you
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>>102107732
chatgpt-4o-latest. more creative than previous versions but nsfw needs a heavy JB and is slopped
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>>102107742
What's lomni?
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>>102107715
Oh, I thought that was a girl
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>tfw actually russian
>but don't live in russia currently and can't get a russian ip
shieeet
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>>102107717
What's the issue? You have unlimited free access to Opus right now if you aren't retarded.
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>>102107756
Would that even matter?
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>>102107749
Any jb that works? I tried cunny sex on it and it refused every time. I haven't had a gpt refusal in forever
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>>102107756
i don't know why you'd assume i'd post a girl when talking about malebots
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>>102107749
Ohhhh it's the model that keeps refusing to respond all the time, will have to look into a better jb then
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>>102107741
>>102107732
Chatgpt-4o-latest.
This is the best model OAI has released in a year.
It's not available on azure as its an "experimental" model.
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>>102107771
WHERE
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>>102107661
I can post it after I minmax it a little more, sure. I'll send it in the thread.
I need to work on these bots now. Have hundreds of ideas and because I just got back, I want to do as much as possible and RP 24/7 for thousands of messages, but I'll send it soon.
>>102107666
Yeah, it's really fun. One click gives you direction and ideas for hundreds of new messages, you can do whatever character you want for your RPs, you know what you like the most.
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>>102107730
artist name?
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>>102107732
Chorbo on deez nuts lmao gottem
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>>102107835
opossummachine
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>>102107730
cute, but I don't like her face
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>>102107805
Search engines and tools are your friend
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>>102105211
Theodora was the daughter of the Duke of Theodoro, but fled the castle due to disagreeing with the idea of being married off to someone god-knows-where for some stupid alliance, only having a trusted servant at her side. A mere year later the dukedom fell to the Turkish wolves, and now she is the last of her line. Not that said line is particularly notorious or that there is any hope for a restoration, but she is still one of the last heirs of Rome. For now all she can do is to survive, and hopefully thrive in Renaissance Europe...

Greetings:
1. (1476) You are her trusted companion, and the two of you are in a tavern in the Lithuanian Marches. Theodora has a question for you...
2. (Oslo, 1480) "Theo" is a deckhand working on a Hanseatic trade ship. "He" is trying to keep his head down as much as possible...
3. (1484) Theodora is now living in Ferrara, under the patronage of a wealthy noble.
4. (1489) Theodora wakes up in a small cottage in Bordeaux next to her lover, you.
5. (1495) She's now Theodora "the Roman", an exotic part of Henry VII's court. People come from all over England to see her, the very last Roman..
6. (Salzburg, 1520) The Reformation is here, and Theodora is having a minor conniption reading Luther's writings.

https://characterhub.org/characters/illuminaryidiot/theodora-0c8fdc372794
https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/Cards/Theodora.png
https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/
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>>102107730
Holy fuck that's hot
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>>102105549
this, people have this weird bizarro view of age -
youth is best spent alone, in your room, on the internet
somehow when you get older you'll start to live life?
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Ecker refilled my bearhole.
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>>102107855
in english einstein
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>>102107877
I'm barely an adult and I spent my teenage years locked up in my room
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what's the difference between gpt4, gpt4 turbo and gpt4o?
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>>102107968
>gpt4
best one but terrible context size
>gpt4 turbo
more retarded but with an actually usable context
>4o
useless, just shrunk turbo
>4o-latest
good, hard to jb and still has some of the same gpt problems we've always known but it has good prose.
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>>102106723
Pebble has Sonnet
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>ctrl+f
>cloudflare
>0 results

worthless
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>>102105680
There's no way, a full month?
>>102105757
None, I just run it and coom, no refusals.
>>102106126
Never used Opus
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>>102108001
the era of public proxies is gone, fuck off back to chary or whatever shithole you came from
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>running firefox on a hardened user.js
>attempt to dip my toes into STScript
>using any command ends with outputs an error
>scope.MacroList.toSorted is not a function
>edge works fine
A complete shot in the dark, but did anyone else run into this problem? Or am I the only retarded paranoiac in here?
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>>102108027
Chary is alive though sis, surely this time the keys wont die in less than a hour
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>>102108001
http://cycling-translations-mercedes-brass.trycloudflare.com/

free 3.5 sonnet
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>>102107557
It's the first testing playthrough fresh after making the card but working pretty well. Sonnet is good.
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>>102108037
I am a retarded paraschizo too but I haven't fucked with STScript because it's endlessly frustrating he won't just add lua support.

>>102108042
anon there's already 40+ proompters, if they can't even use a fucking search engine stop spoon-feeding
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>>102108019
YOU LIE
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>>102108062
enjoy it before it devolves into autistic repetition shit
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good chorbo jb?
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>>102108062
Very nice! Did you do anything crazy for the inner thoughts? Whenever I tried to cook something up Claude was SUPER repetitive with it. It was far worse than even local models, which I made it on/for. Drove me nuts.
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>>102108037 (me)
>>102108075
Nevermind, figured it out. I was running on firefox 103, while toSorted only works for 113 and above. Oops.
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>>102105211
A basic lowly Skyrim guard - but with tits! She has no name, no history and a deep suspicion of ne'er-do-wellers. Bring her a sweet roll and she might give you a taste of her honey mead.

I really just had this nagging thought of making a super basic Skyrim guard. Originally I was going to make it male but since there's no fun in that, the cunt version was born.

Intro 1 - Basic intro - you meet her on the road to Riften.
Intro 2 - She catches you picking a lock.
Intro 3 - She catches you picking her pocket.
Intro 4 - You're wanted and she recognizes your face from a wanted poster.
Intro 5 - She has to take a dump on patrol and pulls over for a pit stop.
Intro 6 - A dragon is attacking White Run.
Intro 7 - She's regaling patrons of a tavern with a story of how she took an arrow to the knee.
Intro 8 - You're a prisoner and she's watching over you.

https://characterhub.org/characters/mrnobody99/skyrim-guard-11a958f2cb24
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DIE
CHARY
DIE
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>>102108121
Ah that would do it, glad you figured it out
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DIE CHARY :3 DIE!!!!!!! UAHHHHHHHHH!!!
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>sonnet
don't really care doebeit
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Well, it was a nice reprieve while it lasted...
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>>102108104
Nothing crazy. I created a <style> prompt where I specified how I want my messages to be formatted, in bullet points. I gave it a random chance for one paragraph of thoughts and wrote a few short examples of what it should look like (I like when my RP has a lot of dialogues and fast, concise descriptions. Action is good and dialogues push the story forward, so that's how I wrote it).
I referred to <style> a few times in other prompts of the preset. I'll be building it up during this roleplay, testing the preset and the card at the same time. For now I haven't swiped even once, it's cooking well.
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>>102108181
>3.5 sonnet
literally worse than 2.1 for rp who gives a shit? wake me up when there's free opus to spite, 'jo.
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>>102105211

Tohsaka Rin (+ Artoria) Your Tsundere Magus Edition

https://chub.ai/characters/EasterEgg/tohsaka-rin-0a64e153b955
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>>102108215
who cares?
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Total Sent Prompts: 296472 Online: 86 Total Token Count: 8895386257 Online: 86
Tell me how this is acceptible.
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>>102108218
mm refilled opus earlier
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"gpt4o": {
"usage": "1.381b tokens",
"activeKeys": 54,
"overQuotaKeys": 467,
"proomptersInQueue": 0,
"estimatedQueueTime": "no wait"

MM's almost out of GPT keys. Hold me bwos
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>>102108235
mm hasn't refilled in weeks. I check hourly
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>>102108215
Hmm I'll have to give it another try, thanks! Local models don't respond nearly as well to XML so maybe that was my downfall.
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>>102105211

byuuny Edition Celebrating Edition Pekoland byuuny Princess Usada Pekora

PekoPekoPekoPekoPekoPekoPako
https://chub.ai/characters/EasterEgg/usada-pekora-7c1360f6502e
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>>102108256
who the fuck cares about gpt
>b-but muh chorb-ACK
stop coping
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> Claude: 2min, 31sec
:3
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>>102108303
Tell me if you have a live graph of chary wait/downtime presented on a seperated monitor in the middle of the wall
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>>102106313
>you're the grim reaper and a little girl with a terminal disease has reached her time (and your mom is there to give you a comfort rimjob)
This is kino though
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https://vip.jewproxy.tech
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Dead general.
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Die locusts.
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GEMINI MOGS OPUS
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where can I try Gemini proper
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>>102108420
Everyone is on chatbbots
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cftf?
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>>102108468
this is the second time I've seen something like this here kek
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Opus?
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>>102108458
who cares
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>>102108487
pebble is kill
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>>102108487
...
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>>102108468
And why should you do it on the floor? Stupid
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>>102108458
https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/docs/api-key
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>>102108181
Thanks. Sincerely. I wish I could do more than attach a funny picture which I hope you enjoy. I'm not terminally on /g/ so sometimes I must be spoonfed lilke a baby bird.
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where do they fit on the haiku-opus scale
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>>102108487
Anon...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpZiPZwwXhM
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>>102108573
Don't thank the spiteniggers, they're trying to kill the proxy.
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>>102108416
Lifetime Token's out of 3.0 Claude, when you get a chance. Any chance of a lifetime token for any other models? I prefer life to subscriptions.
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>>102108587
1.5 pro is between sonnet and opus for sfw rp, the rest are irrelevant. also it can DO NSFW, it's just gonna be gpt levels of bad.
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https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-3-5-opus
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>>102108614
FUCK YOU
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Newfag here. If, according to Anthropic, Sonnet is their "most intelligent model," then why does Opus cost three times as much?
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>>102108647
Opus is much bigger, sonnet 3.5 was an advancement almost half a year later making a much smarter model in a much smaller package
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The mods had a meltie and started banning everyone for 3 days, /aicg/ got quiet all of a sudden lol
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>>102108546
gemini glows so hard
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>>102108701
they should've used ecker's 4chan proxy kek
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>>102108614
>You appear to be a little lost.
The fucking condescension.
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>>102108546
I can't get ST 1.12.4 to connect, do I need a new st or what
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>>102108706
I know y'all zoomers but you gotta learn how to ban evade
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>>102108705
>do not submit sensitive information to a service that might be logged
wow... whoa... do you use PII on public proxies, you fucking retard?
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>>102108754
>learn
*Rangebanned for getting too many IPs in your range banned*
>how
*Shadowbanned and posts don't go through*
>to
*Sent to CAPTCHA hell*
>ban evade!
*Have to wait a minute for every IP attempt*
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>>102108726
>over quota
I didn't even use it wtf
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Honestly with how long Opus 3.5 is taking to release, I'm gonna be super disappointed if it doesn't end up being a huge step in LLMs in some way, whether that be in creative writing or as an assistant for coding, combint through data, or something like that. It's gonna suck if it ends up being just "Sonnet 3.5 but slightly better".
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>>102108647
It's more expensive to run.

>>102108705
It's fucking direct Google API access, of course it does.

>>102108726
I'm on 1.12.4 staging and it's fine
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>>102108821
What do Jessie's glistening diglet drowners have to do with this?
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>>102108701
Where? And when
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ever since I started using NAI I've been genning art for potential bots way more than I've been actually writing them
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i can't believe aicg is finally fucking dea..
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this is so much better desu
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>>102108957
Just join chatbbots. We are all here.
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>>102108994
>chatbbots
what is this gobbledygook
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>>102108994
>in total there are 2 users online
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>>102108908
Same it's too much fun. It only sucks when one of the gens stops working despite the same metadata and seed.
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>>102108994
>same 3 pedofaggots
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watashiwaa~~ can i learn nippon via chattubottu?
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>>102109040
That's already half of /aicg/!
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FELLOW BOT ENJOYERS, CONNOISSEURS, BOTMAKERS.

You all are newfags and got scammed
cheers from sturdy
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>>102109021
been way too addicted to vibe transferring proompts I already liked to see if I can make them better
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>>102109089
I'm not a newfag. I'm here since anti.
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>>102109044
Average Dave was working on a jb to help with language learning. He might have some advice if he pops up
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>>102109044
No. I tried making a japanese-educational card and it was horrible for learning. If you talk only in japanese then potentially?
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>>102109114
What happened to Below and Above Average Dave?
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>>102109089
>scammed
Do tell?
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>>102109044
I ask Sonnet 3.5 to explain sentences to me and it seems to do a pretty good job at it, stuff like why is this grammar structure being used in this way, why is this word used in this specific context, how does this verb conjugation work, etc.

It always gives answer that appear to be accurate, atleast to me.
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>>102109135
obviously hanging out in the below and above average aicg
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I thought gcp trial wasn't available in my region but it actually is
bye faggots I'll go enjoy my opus
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>>102109089
I remember this guy
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>>102109195
...for now.
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Pebble bro!
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>>102109135
I am above average Dave, but because of that I am above being a tripfag
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Last thread?
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>>102109089
I've been here since the beginning
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For a website that prioritize Anonymity, you guys sure like to be recognized and gossiping
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baking
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>>102109440
There's a reason a culture popped up to cultivate this in a cybercrime general. It was forced.
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Death to Desu!
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>>102109462
It's a bit too early, isn't it, spam script-san?
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>>102109478
Swing and a miss, Columbo.
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>>102109476
>>102109476
>>102109476
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>>102109440
I love it when I recognize other anons here and think mhhh I bet this is namefag x only to see I was right. It's really cool
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>>102109460
>implying cybercriminals haven't been gossipy namefags since the dawn of cybercrime
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>>102109089
I BEEN here, nigga
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>>102093545
I am, thank you boku.
Catbox API does not work in the browser so I am working on a server side plugin to go with the extension. I have no experience with server nodejs so it is taking some time debugging.
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You go to great lengths, nice desu.
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looking forward to it desu.
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