>>102225323
Current PC is an

i7 8700
H310m mobo
16gb ram
Gtx970
550w psu

What would be the current best GPU upgrade options? Or what else should I look into upgrading?

Hopefully not needing to spend more than $400aud

>>102225412
>$400aud
You should be looking on the used market
2060 Super, 2070 Super, 3060 12 GB, 3060 Ti, 3070, depending on the performance level you want
An adaptive sync monitor will as do wonders for the smoothness of your games, as you won't be relying on V-sync

>>102225412
I don't think you should buy more than a Radeon 6600XT. Consider a full upgrade down the road.

>>102225477
>>102225444
Lol the i7, mobo and ram was a scavenged/found upgrade because I work at a thrift store was wondering if I should bother putting money in or just keep waiting to see if any other parts get donated

>>102225526
The i7 is still a decent CPU as long as it's not being throttled by that motherboard. Can easily pair with a 3070.

>>102225412
new 6650XT is $380 and its the best you'll do new

>>102225444
yeah, 3070 is probably the best used.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/116313541685

>>102225579
Is the 3070 better than the 6650xt>>102225579
?

>>102225751
yes about 25% better, but it is a used product

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anons i've bought a used mobo and it has one pin bent
i've tried to carefully fix it, does it look ok?
still waiting for my psu to come to check if it works

>>102226270
looks good. don't fiddle with it any more before you test whether it works.

>>102226270
if linus shill tips can do it, you can do it

looks fine in that shitty low res image, you wont know until you test it though. how do you not have a spare psu?

>>102226270
>used mobo
i get the point is to save money (especially in australia or in the anglosphere in general)
but i always thought it was better to always buy new when it comes to the motherboard or the psu?

>>102226387
with new board prices being this bad, used boards can be worth it but you must ensure its in good working order

>>102226446
you can't rma or refund a used, defective mobo

>>102226387
my last am2 board was second hand and it was a deal

the only thing wrong with it was faint static on the onboard audio you could only really hear if you turned up the volume (got really annoying but i kinda miss it)

i need a cheap gpu to use until new gen drops. what cards should I look out for? I dont mind used as i will be ugrading. budget around 200 bucks.

>>102226537
1060 runs elden ring 40-60 fps medium-high 1440p

>>102225412
>Hopefully not needing to spend more than $400aud
snag a 6700xt on ebay for that price and you're golden.

>>102226519
Wasn't that just the norm at the time?

>>102226587
my 939 and 775 boards didnt have static on the onboard audio and they were budget tier compared to the am2 board i mentioned

>>102225323
Give me your ultra final opinion on 4k60 or 1440p144hz for gaming
No esports, play single player and indies only wiht occasional casual call of duty

>>102226537
A770 I got for 300 otherwise there's cheaper New-used 79xtxs going for 700-900

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>>102226924
I'd take 4k60 all day every day. The smoothness from 144hz is real, real nice but in this day of blur the fuck out of everything 4k does a lot of heavy lifting.

600w

>>102226924
for your use case, 4k60

>>102226513
Only because board vendors have such shitty polices.
Generally tho if you buy a used board from an actual place with buyer protection, if it doesn't work you can just get a refund.

>>102227024
Jensen's apartments in HR and MD are atmospheric amazing places to be. Damn I need to install it again

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>>102227661
>ever uninstalling it
I bet hugh darrow did this

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Why are graphics cards nowadays so ugly?

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>>102228240
'cuz msi stopped the lightning series

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>>102225323
>Ultra 7 265KF
>Intel 20A
thank you intel Mlid is wrong once again.

>>102228240
why aren't there any pink graphics cards? :/

>>102228290
yeston?

>>102228272
Wasn't that rumor originally a digitimes leak

>>102228240
gpu coolers got way better at cooling

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>>102228315
not really

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Day 517 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.

I have 7800x3d, choosing cooler. Do I need DeepCool LD360 or deepcool assassin iv is okay? I prefer to stay on air, because I'm afraid of water cooling.

>>102228742
air cooling is enough
thermalright phantom spirit is the best value air cooler rn

>>102228760
They have different varieties, 120SE you talking about, right? Or Evo?

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>>102228742
If you don't care about cost, get the Be quiet Dark Rock Pro 5 or Deepcool Assassin IV
If those are too much, get the Thermalright Peerless Assassin.

>>102228697
maybe they haven't done pink this gen for AMD or Nvidia, they have older pink cards

>>102228817
Dark pro is 2 times more expensive than assassin iv.
> Thermalright Peerless Assassin.
20% cheaper than assassin iv.

how do i make my 3080ti less noisy

>>102228697
there is hellhound sakura but its basically white with pink fans

>>102228911
Undervolt it and manually set the fan speed, replace the thermal paste and pads as well

>>102228812
SE has downgraded fans from the plain Phantom spirit
Evo is slightly better than the standard model

>>102228911
Undervolt to 0.831v using the vf curve tuner in MSI afterburner or repaste the GPU core with ptm7950

What’s the cheapest 2.5 inch SSD that isn’t going to fail after a few weeks of use? I live in muttland btw

>>102228969
What do you mean? My Samsung evo 850 have been up and running everyday for the last 7 years

>>102228969
WD Blue or Crucial MX500.

Anyone ever used PCSpecialist before?
I'm thinking of using their services for my next rig, since I'm too lazy/low-brow to build myself.

>>102228240
>1 fan
is that silent?

Had a random power off a few seconds after alt-f4ing a game the other day. Showed Kernel-Power Event ID: 41
I have a 14700K I've owned since February with zero crashes till now so hopefully it's not degradation. I've had HWinfo open for 39 hours and had a max of 1.475v on VRVOUT on my Gigabyte board. It averages 1.360v. That peak seems a little high to me. I live in an older house so I was thinking the crash could've just been my dirty power too. Fingers crossed.

>>102228924
>hellhound sakura
looks pretty neat actually, thanks
will look great in a nr200p sakura

>>102228994
they're a botique builder like nzxt. they will get the job done but expect to pay more than just building yourself.

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>>102228240
boxes also used to have soul

>>102229040
>it's not degradation
Bro, thats like you waking up every morning and saying "Hopefully I haven't aged"
Lock the cores
fix L1/L2

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>4090 is around 3000 in australia
>was waiting for the 5000 series
>it will probably cost 5000

What's a non-budget case that you guys like that's not one of those cube things with all the shit behind the motherboard?

>>102229142
Define R7.

>>102229131
Lock the cores to what? Don't they recommend the 14900k to lock the 6.0ghz boost to 5.7? 5.6 is the boost clock of the 14700k so I assumed it was fine as long as voltage stays below 1.45 so with 1.47v I was question if I should even bother. PL1 and PL2 is 253w. Not sure how often i'm even getting the true single-core 5.7 anyways, my room is warmish.

>>102229072
HAH. GAYY

>>102229208
Set all p cores to 5.5. set e cores to 4.2 or 4.0 (it doesn't really matter much, 4.0 will be cooler), negative .055 offset and power lock it to 245w. and you should be good and not go above 1.35v

>>102229353
Will do, thanks so much.

>2 years ago
>surely 4090 is getting delayed because nvidia have to sell warehouses full of 3000 series, also it's going to consume 1000w and cost $4000, nvidia is cashing in on crypto miners

>today
>surely 5090 is getting delayed because the 100% real leaks said so, and also its going to consume 1000w and cost $4000, Nvidia is cashing in on AI

>>102229134
>the plug is still not fixed
>600TDP (Rumor)
>That will be 3.500 euro dollars plus tax :)

>>102229493
>ever buying the *90 card
always get the *80

>>102229493
>nvidia is cashing in on crypto miners
pretty sure by 4090 release mining died out and nobody said that, nvidia still cashed out on whales who bought the thing for $1800 on average

>>102229353
>>102229363
realised you said 14700k, you may need to consider dialling it down to something like 5.4 or 5.3p and 4.1 or stay at 4.0e.

>>102229771
>980: much more expensive than 970, not much more vram, not much performance
>1080: overpriced at launch, mogged by 1070Ti(better value) and 1080Ti(much better performance while also being good value) later on
>2080: basically a 1080Ti with less VRAM for the same price 18 months later, by the time DLSS and RT became actual features the generation was over
>4080: Should've been 20gb and $800 tops
In the past 10 years the only good x80 was the 3080

>>102230108
>Should've been 20gb
I imagine more games will implement that auto texture quality thing SW Outlaws did, so people with nvidia don't feel bad when Ultra textures don't run well.

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TOPKEK INTLEL

>>102230180
>according to a reddit post
kek

>>102229771
With a gimped 256 wide memory bus? Yeah, fuck that, they want you to buy their 90 cards because everything else is garbage.
Last good 80 card will be the 3080 and that wasn't so great either because of the VRAM.
MSRP was a fucking joke anyway for that one.

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>>102230108
>3080
>good

CORE ULTRA 9 285k + RTX 5090

>>102230108
The 4070TiSuper is the 1080Ti of today. $800 vs 700$ Good upgrade from a 1080Ti and is the first card that can actually use RT at 1440p. The lineup just has been shifted with some more on the top. Just my opinion feel free to disagree.

>>102230180
>reddit post
>cites some barely human street shitter customer service gimp

RX 6600.
>but I need more
you just have shit taste

https://store.minisforum.com/products/atomman-g7-ti

I want this. Is it a bad idea?
Barebones version, I can add my own SSDs and RAM.

>>102230276
I mean, isn't it logical they stop printing dud generation and replace it with the one that is coming soon?

>>102230180
>ask about refund policies
>suddenly have stock available and provides you with a shipping label
what is this called?

>>102230254
No, the 4070TiSuper is the 1070Ti of today. 1070Ti was a hair below 1080 in performance kinda like the 4070TiS is below the 4080. And the 4070TiS should cost $400

>>102230292
do you have any use for it?

>>102230312
To replace my current tower. The tower is too big. I wish I could post my specs but I'm at work.

My current GPU is Radeon RX 5700 XT (8gig version) and I have some i5 from 2019. Also 32gig of ram. My current PC is from 2019.

>>102230334
are you living in a capsule hotel? you are not saving any space in any real human conditions and not gaining any prformance with that thing

>>102230354
Okay. It's just a curiosity I had. But your right about performance.
I just want a smol PC. Tired of my large tower.

>>102230306
That's fair. I had a 1080Ti back in 2018 and honestly didn't feel that special, I had to turn settings down in some games at 1440p. The 4070Ti can run any 2024 game at 1440p ultra and handles PT/RT pretty well for the price compared to the higher-end cards. Maybe not in the literal sense of it being the best card but value wise it lines up pretty well.

>>102230391
do an ITX build

>>102230296
All 14900ks where probably produced a year ago.
It more than likely explains the reason to patch instead of replace because even if they did recall every chip, it's just the same bad CPUs

>Intel's contract manufacturing business has suffered a setback after tests with chipmaker Broadcom failed, three sources familiar with the matter told Reuters, dealing a blow to the company's turnaround efforts.

>The tests conducted by Broadcom involved sending silicon wafers - the foot-wide discs on which chips are printed - through Intel's most advanced manufacturing process known as 18A, the sources said. Broadcom received the wafers back from Intel last month. After its engineers and executives studied the results, the company concluded the manufacturing process is not yet viable to move to high-volume production.


SELL SELL SELL

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nvidia is done

>>102230478
b-buy the dip!

>>102230478
likely process is fine, yields are terrible
TSMC got it easy, apple bankrolls beta testing for them, US gov should bank roll beta testing for intel

>>102230478
This is non-news, Intel have said 18A won't be ready for high volume until 2025
>>102230483
This IS news though holy fuck Nvidia about to get clapped

>>102230483
man, AMD was 200 few mnoths back, now they are 140, it's the market, it floats
only sad thing semiconductor is what keeps this stupid civilizations afloat, but a phone company costs more than the one making the damn chips

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>>102230483
ANTITRUST

>stock goes up
gpu prices go up
>stock goes down
gpu prices still go up
>stock price stays the same
gpu prices go up

>>102230631
>tsmc prices go up, intel keeps fucking up, tsmc prices go up, samsung cant catch up, tsmc prices go up
>people making leading edge silicon products use tsmc and their prices go up

>>102230589
>pic
i read all of that and it just reads amd have skill issue

>>102230651
the usa needs to invade taiwan and nationalise tsmc

>>102230671
https://youtu.be/TyvNfeRJdeI?t=5190

Nvidia got caught and now AMD is sueing them

>>102230695
>kitguru

I will forever hate AMD Intel and Apple for blocking Nvidia's ARM acquisition we would be colonizing mars and I would've wifed a venusian girl by now

>>102230695
I watched the stream 2 days ago and here's the summary
>praising zen5 after update
>shit talks blackwell because production issue rumor
>shit talks lunarlake becuase gpu is might be slower than rdna3.5 (debunked now)
>shit talks arrowlake because its using expensive tsmc 3 rumor (debunked now)
can't get more amd fan than this

>>102230778
Userbenchmark was right all along

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>>102230822
If you sort his video by oldest, you would realize his channel started off fanboying around amd

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>>102225323
Why do so many fans now have these fuck huge central hubs? The NF-A12 was already big, but other fans like the modern BeQuiet ones also are bigger than their older version.
Some older fans like Noiseblockers did fine and have a 100000h+ service life while having a smaller hub and an 8-pole motor.
The EK Meltemi even performed better when you put a 12mm shroud between it and the radiator.

>>102230908
I didn't know he was based

>>102230908
If you don't make AMD videos for clicks you are retarded

>>102230778
they could get the guy from amd unboxed on there lol

>Hello Jensen? yes, they are bullying Nvidia on /g/ again
>yes i'll summon the shills, by your command

AMD GPUs are garbage, change my mind.

>>102231125
they're fine if you're budget is under 300€

>>102231004
this is unironically the only thin stopping me from buying AMD
I don't care about the meme features like hairworks or gaytracing that looks like ass bar 1 or 2 games that properly implement it
requiring 30-50% extra power to match the competition isn't worth the few GB of vram and accountless adreno even though I pay 0.11 cents kw/H

>>102231125
Let's see you boot linux without a black screen

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Banks been holding my check for the past 9 days. I might as well wait for the fucking 5090 at this point.

>>102231125
GPUs without L3 cache are fucking garbage holy christshitting burgers

>>102231208
>holding my check
why do you still use checks? rest of the world is on digital transfers for a few decades now

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fP27fy
Planning on buying this, any thoughts?

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>>102231063
I'm here now, playtime's over kiddo

>>102230725
>AMD Intel and Apple
I don't think it was them necessarily. Nvidia would be too strong if it had acquired ARM, although it's true that both Intel and AMD have both CPU and GPU IP. Since ARM can and does work with Nvidia, there's no real need for Nvidia to bring it in house.

>>102230306
>the 4070TiS should cost $400
Maybe $600. You can't compare pre-COVID dollars to today's dollars directly, and manufacturing costs have gone up (TMSC charging a pretty penny)

>>102230108
>2080 by the time DLSS and RT became actual features the generation was over
RT was never good on the 2080, and honestly I don't think many people thought it would be, but DLSS gave the 2080 massive legs over the 1080 Ti, and made it better for higher resolution. Also DLSS2 didn't come out until the RTX 20 Super refresh, which was the point at which DLSS became worthwhile. RTX 20 was an extremely lackluster gen on launch, partially because it came on the heels of a crypto boom. RTX 40 shares a lot of similarities, including the Super refresh, although unfortunately Nvidia didn't release a 4060 (Ti?) Super this time around, which would have been great if it had been based on AD104 even at $400

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>>102229771
Names of the cards don't really matter that much. Even the names of the underlying dies don't really matter. All that matter is the silicon itself, the performance level it needs to meet (as measured against real world workloads), and the cost to the consumer

>>102229493
Those types of rumors have always been retarded. RTX 50 is getting delayed because TSMC's node isn't ready yet

>>102228969
You don't buy 2.5" SSDs at this point if you can avoid it at all possible. If you have a desktop, you should likely add a PCIe expansion card for NVMe drives

>>102228911
Undervolt. 3080 Ti was one of the cards that sucked from the RTX 30 generation because it was juiced at stock, and barely better than the 3080 even with all that extra power

>>102231631
Why do you spend over 12 hours every day in /pcbg/ advertising graphics cards

>>102231186
Tell me which brand gpus are melting though?

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>>102226924
You don't buy a 60 Hz monitor ever for gaming. It should be high refresh with adaptive sync. Considering available monitors (in the USA), there are basically three worthwhile monitors currently IMO: Dell G2724D, AOC Q27G3XMN, MSI MPG 321URX. Of course, there are others as well, but they're for niche uses, not yours. The Dell is good if you're cash strapped and never use the monitor in dimly lit room. The AOC is a great value option, entry HDR. The MSI is the best option if you have the money and have at least a 4070 Ti Super. With the advent of DLSS, higher resolution displays will always look better, and they aren't more performance intensive.

>>102226537
2060 6 GB or 2060 Super. You can play most games, except the newest, at most resolutions.

>>102231620
Radeon makes the whole thing a waste of money

>>102231709
I don't

>>102231186
are you vegan or something? i never heard someone go "i want to build a high powered pc but im afraid of high power"

>>102231849
the 4090s*
* - with a meme custom connector not fully seated
I am obviously concerned about power bills not retarded custom connector seating

>>102231897
The point is that I can buy the njudea equivalent and get equal or in some circumstances better performance for the same price while consuming less power without even counting the meme green features I don't care about but are there

>>102231903
If you are worried about power bills buy a 200W card and UV it

>>102231925
>for the same price
Sure

>>102231925
nvidia equivalent is almost twice the price. the price of a 4090 i can crossfire 7900xtx.

>>102231950
Crossfire is dead. What you could do is buy a fancy 4k 240hz oled and the XTX.

>>102231930
there is 0 reason for a card to consume say 350w instead of 220w while providing the same frames
>>102231950
the 4090 costs that much because they know there is 0 competition
xtx is competing with the 4080s in price and performance
7900xt is the 4070 ti super competitor
7900 gre is the 4070 super competitor
etc
in real use cases the amd equivalents consume more power and as I said earlier there is no reason for it
looking at other countries the price difference is around $100 or less but mine prices them about the same so there is that I guess

>>102232016
Officially it's dead on DirectX. Unofficially it's not. Motherboards still have multiple PCIE slots and Vulkan by extension can pair multi GPUs.

>>102232069
I'd be surprised if 5 games in the last two years actually worked worked with it.

>>102231950
>i can crossfire 7900xtx
You cannot, CF is long dead.

Have power supplies gone up in price again? All the good 850 watt models are like $150 now.

Montech Air 903 Max or Sky Two GX?
I'm looking to get as much decent airflow as possible without getting too thick of a case. The second one seems fairly compact but not everyone seems to recommend it.

I think 8K is a meme but hope it gets pushed more because the sooner it is the sooner 1080p dies

>>102232400
Anything beyond budget laptop specs is a meme dontchaknow

>>102232400
>t. has never played a game on a 8K screen

>>102232400
Why do you want 1080 dead?

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My case apparently blocks my input devices for my GPU, what's an easy way to fix this? The gpu is in correctly

>>102232580
return the case for being shitty

>>102232580
What case so we can avoid it?

>>102232580
some form of violence

>>102232580
Dremel

>>102232593
>>102232662
I might just be a retard. I unscrewed the stuff holding gpu in place, and I can't push the ports any further so this is as far as they go into the gpu but my monitor doesn't show anything when I hook them up to my gpu (first time builder be nice). I guess I gotta configure my gpu or something first.
Everything works fine when I hook it into the mobo and my gpu does turn on and fans spin

And yes it's a chink case, super flowers (I got it for free). This is why I defaulted to it being a case problem and not a me/gpu problem

>>102232770
inb4 jamming a hdmi cable into a displayport slot.

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This is my current airflow, Orange are spots that don't have a fan. Would i even benefit from having fans there?

>>102232878
If you had to add a fan into one of those three spots, 100% I would add an exhaust fan in the top left. That spot gets pretty warm on my PC when I'm gaming/rendering. Yes, I have a fan there.

>>102225323
I have a 7950x and a 4060ti (16gb)
Is the bottleneck a myth made up by manufacturers?

>>102232878
Front bottom might to help add some airflow to any drives that live there, otherwise listen to >>102232905

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>>102225323

Dear lads, eurofag here (conquistador)

I've been messing around for the last couple weeks, reading a lot, cereally. However I'm still stuck. For starters, although I use a Thinkpad p15s (btw, it came up pretty bad, preformance is literall bullshit at games, but that's another subject, know that I come from a Quad9550 in the classic Antec 900 (pic related). One of my firsts builds in '08. I know,

I am currently able to spend 1.5k~ and I want a new PC. I want it to be efficient, relatively silent (at Idle, and capable of fan curves) and I don't want to spend more than 600euros in CPU+GPU combo. I will stick to AM5 and although I am hesitating whether to use 7600x or 7900 (more cores and better performance but more pricey) I am almost set to one of those and a 4060 8gb. This is very debatable but I am almost set - in two years I may upgrade if I want.

My use case is: I want to be able to play games from the last decade: @1080p and ~60fps: so nothing fancy. For work I do a lot of computation in Matlab and Python, signal processing of EEG/MEG, fMRI. And I also do music production (FlStudio, Ableton), a science fiction podcast (in spanish, mostly Dick and Lem, abother subject again), and play with visuals (KodeLife and processing). I know video editing requires more than this combo but I can't afford and rather wait, because it is just a hobby.

What I'm struggling with is the CASE. Horror, my friends. I cant set for one. I am all for the lloks, I would like it to have glasses and place my GITS figures and stuff, ARGB, air cooled (it is what Iam used too) big and spacious and able to hold at least 4 3'5 hdds... it's been impossible. Four frontal USBs would be nice too.

Could you help this boomer in the pursue of such case? You can laugh at me and call me whatever. Sorry for spamming if it is the CASE (ohoh). Maybe I keep with my old case and its big superior fan.

https://es.pcpartpicker.com/user/nrbrtwnr/saved/yHTGjX

Im sorry cant synthetizeThank u

>>102233023
>>102232905
Thanks anons, any harm in putting both front bottom AND top left?

>>102233094
No.

Is this a good build for emulation(86box, etc.)?

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mhf9fy

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor ($170.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($74.98 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($32.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.98 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 210 Radeon RX 6600 8 GB Video Card ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case ($92.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Gigabyte UD750GM 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ B&H)
Total: $744.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-09-04 13:05 EDT-0400

>>102231895
> Radeon makes the whole thing a waste of money
Why

>>102233240
If you plan on emulating any PS3 games then you should unironically get a Ryzen 9000 series CPU. If not, yeah your build is basically fine.

>>102233250
DO NOT QUESTION. BUY. NVIDIA!!!!!1111ONE

>>102233074
Here are my choices for you before I got to bed
Current favorite: Lianli 216
but I want bigger - Lianli Lancool III
I said bigger retard I'm a goon cave man porn hoarder - Meshify 2 XL

>>102233074
>"no more than 600 euros combined in CPU and GPU"
>I want to spend less than half my budget on the most critical parts of my build
>parts list is private
Spainanon, don't be retarded. For 1500€ you can do a lot more than 1080/60. At the 1600€ level (adjust down if needed), Logicalincrements Spain recommends a 4070S, and those cost 600€ all by themselves; the i7 13700K they recommend with it is 350€.
>tempered glass with 4 3.5" drive bays and ARGB
Lian Li Lancool III RGB, Lian Li O11D EVo RGB, Thermaltake View 71 RGB

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>>102233009
>bottleneck
Something will always be the limiting factor. There's no hard bottleneck between those components, like plugging a Gen4 SSD into a Gen3 slot. Use hardware monitoring like Afterburner + Riva Tuner or the Geforce Overlay if you want to see whether the GPU is fully utilized when gaming, which is an indicator of whether the GPU is the limit or not. In anything graphically demanding, it will be. For other tasks like Blender, really depends on what your projects are and how you use the system

360 hz QD-OLED or 480 hz WOLED?

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>>102233250
Drastically lower performance and image quality in any modern game, as they all are designed around reconstruction (i.e., TSR, DLSS, FSR, XeSS). Why spend money on a nice CPU like the 7800X3D if you're buying a trash tier GPU, considering the GPU will have the biggest effect on gaming performance generally speaking.

>>102233654
the woled has some advantages, the image clarity is a bit better but qd oled has better colors and you cant run most games at those kinda fps anyways

>>102233267
What makes 9000 series better for ps3?

>>102233681
>dlss at half resolution and then supersample
shit nigger what are you doing

another anon gave me a list and im wondering whats the benefits to getting a SLIM gpu over a regular one?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fvNNRK

is there a better option for 4070 super?

>>102233707
You want to look for AVX-512 performance. RPCS3 heavily relies on it.

>>102232580
You need to unscrew and take out the other slot cover brackets

>>102233417
thank u goonaon
>>102233511
fuk, sorry man. Yes, I hear you. I planned to spend in modo, case and psu + 64gb ram and upgrade within the AM5 family in 2/3 yo.
I made the list not private, sorry sorry sorry

>>102233878
wouldnt that require the gpu to be incredibly misaligned and bent?

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>>102230292
>14th gen in this package
This format has been dogshit even with weak celerons let alone modern chernobyls. Why.

>>102233940
IDK, but it's clearly wrong
Hope anon didn't do anything too stupid to force that GPU in

>>102233815
nvm i see everywhere says ASUS Dual OC but that one costs like $200 more.

>>102230483
Isn't this just another AI burst bubble?

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>>102233654
480hz on most 4K WOLEDs only works @ 1080p (assuming you can even hit those FPS numbers to leverage it) and from reviews the scaling isn't best at that mode:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aJLTx12UQM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HNZina-4Tc&t=549s

So if you are interested in 480Hz OLED, I'd highly recommend focusing on the just released ASUS PG27AQDP which is NATIVE1440p@480Hz (but will be even harder to drive than 1080p@480Hz):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLekvkdOQvI

That said, as far as QD-OLED vs WOLED, QD-OLED has the advantage in color gamut and color volume (i.e. the saturation and brightness of pigments at higher brightness levels):
https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/exploring-oled-brightness-improvements-woled-vs-qd-oled-and-the-need-for-new-metrics-and-specs
They also have tighter panel uniformity from what I've seen, and perhaps most importantly come with glossy screens that look richer/clearer and more three-dimensional at the cost of reflections if can't control ambient lighting with curtains/shades:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCPBgHkFQCQ

IMHO, QD-OLED > WOLED but if you value the incremental improvement of 360--> 480 Hz more with a beefy GPU to actually use it or just prefer matte coatings WOLED might be better.

>>102231897
The difference in power consumption can be in some cases a break point of needing to buy a new PSU. Plus obviously more watts->more heat. AMD has dog efficiency.

>>102234054
thanks m8, just copped a 360 hz QD-OLED on a whim over the weekend and wanted to be sure I wasn't going to have buyer's remorse now that a new panel just came out
oled is fucking love compared to my old IPS

>>102233936
The Ryzen 7000 series is incredible value for money, what do you hope to gain by bottlenecking yourself with a (hypothetical) 450€ GPU and 150€ CPU? I get that Matlab has a lot of GPU libraries, but are you using those enough to justify making your machine worse at everything else? RAM doesn't even make up a tenth of the cost of any reasonable build.

>>102233654
240hz DOA slideshow, 360hz DOA
480hz 1440p is now the NEW Minimum, 4k 240hz is unironically DOA
herzmaxx or ropemaxx

https://youtu.be/fgnYCo29-Zk
https://youtu.be/fLekvkdOQvI

>Nvidia DSC laggy black screen alt tab bug still here
ACK

Is the fractal north a meme or does it actually have good airflow?

>>102233845
Would a Ryzen 7000 series work for RPCS3

>>102234150
Glad you're enjoying it. I always recommend first-time OLED users try out their new monitors with some quality demo content designed to showcase it's strengths like these (if possible with your previous LCD monitor side-by-side with it playing the same video):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSvoP-JuYDI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njX2bu-_Vw4

Night and day stuff.

>>102234199
Yes. While not as good as R9 it's good enough. But remember, 'good enough' now might not be 'good enough' later. I believe R7 is lower than R9 by 30-40 FPS on GOW3, I'm not sure. But R9 can get 200+ FPS while R7 can get ~170FPS. If your monitor doesn't even get to 200 FPS then just get whatever is cheaper.
Intel's 12th gen is actually really, really good since it still had AVX-512 but the newer gens don't have it.

Just pick whatever is on this list.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Rpq_2D4Rf3g6O-x2R1fwTSKWvJH7X63kExsVxHnT2Mc/edit?gid=0#gid=0

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>>102234199
>Would a Ryzen 7000 series work for RPCS3
Yes.

>>102232905
Does it actually change much?
I recall trying this on my case and getting nowhere. I don't know if it's because I have a fuckhuge Noctua NH-D15S that's practically almost touching the glass panel (there's a 160mm clearance, I might buy a new case soon though). All it seemed to do was add noise.
I just want a case that's good for my GPU

>>102234199
nta but if you're building an exclusively RPCS3 rig then the full width AVX512 of the 900 series might edge it. OTOH for a general gaming rig with PS3 emulation as a component then the 7800X3D would be better. If you want the best of both then wait for Zen5 X3D.

>>102233240
>>102234199
Also, would the list I gave work well for Virtual Machines?

>>102230589
10 years too late for an antitrust

>>102234290
nah its the perfect fucking time. 10 years worth of evidence piled up.

>>102234191
You're paying like $40 for the looks but it does have good airflow. Nothing wrong with that if you've got the cash.

>>102234287
Depends. 16 cores is what I would say average now-a-days to run VMs.
I use a Xeon E5-2680 V4, which is 28 cores, for multiple VMs.
But your RAM is severely lacking. 16GB is pretty much minimum for me when I do Windows VMs. 8GB if I do Linux if I'm running out but I also do 16GB of RAM. You have exactly 16GB of RAM so you can't really allocate anything unless you want your main host to start struggling.

>>102230478
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/intel-scraps-18a-process-for-arrow-lake-goes-with-external-nodes-likely-tsmc

Intel scraps its process node and does chips on tsmc just like amd.
thats good news right?

>>102231204
>linux
lol

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>>102225323
That looks like rocko's modern life if it was a borg cube

>>102234313
I got the budget for sure. I'm trying to look at the best option I can get for under 200€. I'd be willing to spend more, even buying a new cooler if needed, if I could make the build a little slim (under 200mm width) but I think that would contribute negatively towards having decent airflow. I'm starved for space so I'm always avoiding those dual chamber ones

>>102234265
Why do they all have the same performance?
GPU bottleneck?

>>102234450
200mm is plenty for good cooling. What the North does compromise on, relative to others in its price bracket, is compatibility - AIO support is limited and the fan bracket restricts GPU width. It's fine to buy if you like the aesthetics and it fits all your stuff. It doesn't have the best airflow but it's more than good enough for any mainstream desktop config.

>>102234436
KEK

>>102234528
PS3 emulation is notoriously shit.

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>>102233511
>>102233417
Just wanted to tahnk u again anons, the looks of the 216 and the EVO are fantastic and both seem able to hold 4 of my several old 3.5'. EVO seems to be more fit for AIO, it's prettier, but the 216 with optional controller adds two more USBs).The Thermaltake View 71 is rad too.. it's hard to decide, but the "ball is on my roof" now, I appreciate you for the suggestions, que la fuerza os acompañe!

Still, if someone wants to give me advice about this possible ~1.5k build I'll be thankful,
>>102233074 (updated list)

I dont go for superior 7900 or 4070S because of the budget, maybe I will upgrade in the future. Probably its a mistake though so I hear you.I know I will be spending ~1/8 of the budget just in the looks (white)... sorry about spamming, PAZ!

>>102234550
I essentially got a 4070 super recently (and don't plan to buy a new GPU in quite a while) and it's dual fan, not too much width. If there was some case that made clever use of that space that some 3 fan GPUs require in a decent way, it'd be nice but I'm not exactly aware of such a thing.

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>>102228240
i want more red GPUs

have 5800x3d and 4090 with a 750W psu
will i need a new psu if i'm retarded and buy a 5090 for no reason?

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>>102234697
...

>>102234697
yeah the 5090 seems to be made for 1k w psus

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>>102234177
>WHAT!? OLED has now reached 480 Hz you say?
>Quick! Shift the TFT Overdrive setting to MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE!
https://www.techpowerup.com/326258/acer-launches-ultraspeed-nitro-displays-with-refresh-rates-up-to-600-hz

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>>102233777
Getting better than or equivalent to native image quality at higher performance, generally speaking, as noted by the image quality comparisons in the post you replied to. I'm not saying that DLSS Quality at high res is perfect or that it's better than native in all games: it is on average. Additionally, like I said, modern games are designed around reconstruction. You'll be using FSR or something else inferior if you don't have DLSS. If you get lucky, RTG will eventually catch up in image quality, although there's no reason to take that bet over $50

>>102233815
Right now according to pcpartpicker the cheapest decent 4070 Super in the USA is the Gigabyte Eagle with the Quiet BIOS switch flipped on

>>102234394
>Intel scraps its process node and does chips on tsmc
>thats good news right?
Not sure if you're being facetious, but no. TSMC needs competition. And there needs to be more capacity for high end chips in general

>>102234528
Because RDR is a meme game and was never made to run at 60. Even a Zen 2 can run literally anything else at 60 fps without breaking a sweat
>>102234564
this retard is like 6 years late with his info

>>102234528
No, CPU bottleneck most likely
RPCS3 is CPU heavy

daily reminder that there's no such thing as a GPU bottleneck
your CPU performance can be bottlenecked by your ram
your GPU performance can be bottlenecked by your CPU
the GPU doesn't "bottleneck" anything but can be the limiting factor on overall system performance if you have a weak ass gpu trying to render shit at 4K

>>102234908
That is a retarded stance given the actual end of the chain is what is on your display.

>>102234999
Not him, but bottleneck != limit

>>102234908
GPU drivers do bottleneck. Thats why Nvidia GPUs stutter on Windows while AMD GPUs don't on Linux.

>>102235018
Delusional FUDposting

>>102234394
No because more companies are fighting for the capacity at the same factory, prices will go up across the board.

Can anyone please help me. My audio is muffled ONLY in multiplayer games, my headphones are wireless and I think this is the problem. But surely there are others with bluetooth wireless headphones capable of talking in-game as well as having clear audio? I tested this in Outlast Trials, the audio gets muffled the second I join a group, and clears up when I leave the group. Yet for some reason, I can talk and hear cleanly when in a discord chat? How does that work? I am actually leaning towards this being a steam issue, I have no games from the epic game store to compare to.

>>102235230
Does the headphone change into phone call mode in games? Maybe

>>102235259
How would I check that? My headphones work very well on xbox for-game chat in-game sound. So maybe you're right, i have some setting in place that's affecting my audioij multiplayer games.

>>102235230
do the headphones come with some kind of faggot software? It's possible it's detecting the game and switching to a "le epic gaymer profile" and fucking with the settings.

>>102235349
Just checked and I have no steelseries related spoftware installed on my PC. But if the headphones have epic gamer mode, why didn't it affect me on the xbox? And why now for my PC?

>>102235271
I don't know but when I tried to get into BT headphones they sometimes changed into phone call mode which sounded like a walkie talkie while listening to music.

How important are the ddr5 subtimings for am5?

>>102235652
prob get some fps out of it, prob not worth the effort to fiddle with

>>102235670
I was thinking more of when buying the RAM, but you're saying it's not worth it to pay more for better timings? As long as it's CL30 6000 then the subtimings shouldn't really matter?

>>102235697
more mhz = more fps

>>102234888
Weird that a lot of CPUs are tied.

I'm seeing 4070 Supers varying from 650 to 750 watt recommendations. What would cause that variance? I don't want to have to upgrade my PSU too.

You can use 650W. It's only a 220W graphics card

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>>102235670
DDR5 auto timings are horrible, even worse than DDR4 auto timings
you can expect a generational uplift from manual tuning
>>102235697
the RAM only determines the primary timings
as long as it's 6000C30 it should be fine

>>102233240
>>102233845
>>102234199
>>102234258
>>102234287
>>102234361
I should have mentioned that it is a budget PC.

>>102235984
Also, would an 11th gen Intel Core work?

>>102235984
It's pretty hard emulating stuff on a budget PC. You could make do with lower end stuff like PS2 era and earlier, but things like Switch or PS3 then you're kinda shit out of luck.
Add hosting VMs then it's practically impossible. You would need some of the higher end CPUs and more RAM.
You could get a 12th gen CPU like the 12700K since it somewhat supports AVX-512 somewhat for PS3 emulation and has 20 threads for a handful of VMs. Bump up your RAM to at least 32GB though.

How do I properly clean my pc? I've some paper towel, a compressed air can, some cotton swabs and 99% isopropyl alcohol. Am I good to go? Also how do I properly clean the dust filters?

>>102235984
Just get a beelink Ser5/7

Any suggestions for a silent and efficient 140mm rear case fan? My old noctua is the loudest fucking thing on it and I'd like to remedy the noise issue.

>>102235984
>>102236023
Would this be OK?

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Mm78L9

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700KF 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor ($184.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI PRO H610M-G DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($32.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.98 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 210 Radeon RX 6600 8 GB Video Card ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case ($92.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Gigabyte UD750GM 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ B&H)
Total: $764.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-09-04 19:37 EDT-0400

>>102209878
late bump

>>102236176
>hard disk drive
Jesus chirst. Go back. Don't use HDDs, ever. Only time I would recommend HDD is for mass storage.

>>102236074
>>102236176
Would an i7 12700KF work?

>>102236226
Yes. While outdated it's still considered one of the best CPUs for PS3 emulation because of AVX-512. Newer CPUs only beat it because of their raw performance while missing support for AVX-512.

>>102236195
??
Cases don't have cables for fans. It's the fans that have the cable to connect to the motherboard. Just connect the fan cable to the mobo.

>>102236087
>how do I clean dust filters
Take them outside and blast compressed air through them. Hit any stubborn bits with a toothbrush and then try compressed air again.

>>102236370
I just remove them and run a vacuum cleaner on them.
Unless you're talking about a dust filter that's permanently stuck on the case, then yeah. Use compressed air and toothbrush to clean them.

>>102236370
Alright. Thanks.

>>102236087
>Also how do I properly clean the dust filters?
Like the mesh thingies? I scrub them with soap and water and let dry for a few hours while you tend to other things.

>>102236176
>>102236074
What would be good for Xbox 360 emulation?

I got a 1080p IPS monitor (LG 24GN650-B). My old monitor is an office monitor from 2012 (dell p2213) and it looks way better, minus the refresh rate. I don't get it. The blacks on the old Dell are actually black, while on the new IPS they are grey. Worse still is that you can see a grey glow covering the corners in dark scenes in games. I don't have high standards and I'm not picky, but even I notice it. This is where monitor technology went? Wtf do I buy to match my 2012 monitor in blacks?

>>102236463
No idea. Because last I checked 360 had trouble with some part of the 360 emulation. So it's not as complete as RPCS3 so there's really no document or benchmarks as to what hardware works and doesn't work yet.

>>102236547
I want to emulate Playstation 3, Xbox 360, Wii U,
Dreamcast, and earlier + run old computer games ~1989-2000's + more recent games.

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A or B?

I will be using different, cheaper fans and a cheaper overall build :^3

>>102236547
Xenia is better for RDR than RPCS3

>>102236542
>I got a 1080p IPS monitor (LG 24GN650-B). My old monitor is an office monitor from 2012 (dell p2213) and it looks way better, minus the refresh rate. I don't get it. The blacks on the old Dell are actually black, while on the new IPS they are grey. Worse still is that you can see a grey glow covering the corners in dark scenes in games. I don't have high standards and I'm not picky, but even I notice it. This is where monitor technology went? Wtf do I buy to match my 2012 monitor in blacks?
Your old Dell was a TN panel (generally regarded as the worst of the LCD panel types), however your 1080p IPS is suffering from IPS Glow which as it's name implies is specific to IPS Panels and has to do with off viewing the screen at certain angles relative to the parralel structure of the liquid crystal layer that let's light through in splotchy ways, making contrast look worse coming from TN. Your issues w/glow in the corners are likely the LCD's backlight bleeding through the edges where the panel layers meet at the corners due to poor QC and that can affect all types of LCDs but particularly low-end ones like 1080p models.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vecsubZrpfs
About the only thing you can do other than returning the monitor and buying something else if you are able is to simply turn down the brightness in the monitor's on-screen-display menu that will reduce the backlight's power and how much light bleeds through to the surface in both ways.

>This is where monitor technology went? Wtf do I buy to match my 2012 monitor in blacks?
If you want a cheap solution go with a VA panel like the AOC Q27G3XMN which is the current price/performance champion of that panel type.
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/aoc/q27g3xmn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYwV_1bIJ4g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbQ8Pe4WVxc
There are of course a ton of them to choose from sorted by price here:
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#P=4&sort=price&page=1&D=120000,540000

>>102236915
what about having both the cpu and gpu be cooled with an AIO

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>>102236700
X360 can run on pc from 2015 but some games might be fucked.

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>>102236542
>>102236925
Besides the cheap VA route, the other option if you can afford it is to go to an OLED panel that does away with the backlight entirely so when pixels should be black they switch off entirely so no light is produced and perfect blacks are achieved. However because they use organic materials in the panel they can burn if used for static content that doesn't change very often on-screen like browser menus or task/toolbars which is why they are generally recommended for games/movies only that have lots of fast changing content.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZqDX1J9ylI

They are fucking expensive though prices are coming down with the cheapest one @ $55-6000 now:
https://www.amazon.com/INNOCN-Monitor-Connectivity-Speakers-Adjustable/dp/B0CMSVLJW2
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#sort=price&D=120000,540000&P=9,15&page=1

>>102236915
Has to be A. I wouldn't be blowing CPU heat into a 1600W PSU and the cables are in the way, bad airflow. A will work fantastically.

I shant be buying a new monitor until that new Mediatek-Nvidia display scaler makes it into cheaper 240Hz 1440p OLEDs

>>102236925
Thanks for the response. I will have to try VA. I don't mind some ghosting. I used a very old monitor for quite some time after all, but the side glow and the bright blacks on the IPS really surprised me.
>AOC Q27G3XMN
I was planning to go with 24" 1080p because it's a budget build, 6700 (non-xt) + 5600, nothing special. I would prefer to keep it under $200. Is mini-led some special subset of VA panels? Don't know much about monitors. I think if a cheap VA would at least match my old monitor but with higher refresh rate I'd be happy.

>>102237068
I don't think Pulsar has been confirmed for OLED
But at the least it'll have updated ports and no fan

>>102237099
Having (true) G-Sync and variable overdrive with new ports and OLED is enough

>>102237094
Miniled is required if you want hdr, which is the selling point of the AOC monitor. Cheapest monitor that can give you hdr experience.

>>102237044
Not my build

I will have either a bequiet! 750 watt psu with 19dba fans or a 1000w psu or 850w psu with 25dba fans

If I got one with a higher amount of watts, it would need to use the fans less?

>>102237159
People freak about heat in a power supply because it may mean it last 25 years vs 30 years

Modern PSUs don't give a shit mostly, it may just mean the PSU fan may run a little more on B but it's very marginal

>>102237127
OLED doesn't need variable OD

>>102237207
You're right
Actually thinking about what overdrive does and how OLEDs are already inherently fast switching, what I said was dumb
Throw the Mediatek scaler into a modern VA panel and maybe that variable overdrive will help to reduce black smearing so that I don't have to deal with IPS' poor contrast ratio

>>102237099
pulsar is lcd specific tech, it manipulates a backlight and oled doesnt have one

The issue with the bfi is the general apprehension to driving the pixels really hard to produce short bright pulse which is then followed with black frames since it can degrade the pixels faster.

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>>102228240
wdym I think the reference Nvidia cards are great looking, it's the partners for Nvidia that make ugly cards these days. Unfortunately for me you can't buy the refence cards in New Zealand without jumping through importing hoops so I'll basically never own an Nvidia card until the partners stop making trash.

At least Sapphire still nails it generation after generation for AMD.

>>102237094
>I was planning to go with 24" 1080p because it's a budget build, 6700 (non-xt) + 5600, nothing special. I would prefer to keep it under $200.
If you are replacing a 24" 1080p model it pays to upgrade not to a larger screen size not just for immersion's sake but 27" @ 1440p actually has more pixels per inch (PPI) and because of that increase in pixel density makes image look sharper and text clearer as a result regardless of what panel type you pick coming from 24". Also the market is such that there is almost no real premium for similar spec'd 24" 1080p to 27" 1440p models now because the former can only get so cheap running into basic materials costs for things like the stand casing, etc. common to all displays.

For less than $200 the KOORUI 27E1QA might be a good choice (1440p 144Hz flat VA for $160)
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XFkH99/koorui-27e1qa-270-2560-x-1440-144-hz-monitor-27e1qa
The problem is a lot of VAs are curved for marketing reasons that don't make a lot of since at this size and viewing distance and it can be a distraction if you are used to flat panels.

>Is mini-led some special subset of VA panels? Don't know much about monitors.
As other said it just a type of LCD backlighting tech that has nothing to do with the panel type that sits in front of it. At your price range I wouldn't worry about it unless you wanna splurge again for the AOC model.

One thing you oughta know about VAs as well is that their Achilles' heel is dark transitions meaning when something dark/black is moving on screen the pixels take longer than other panel types to respond and change which leads to phenomena called dark smearing or inverse ghosting that looks like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdP4pw3Vaus
It may not be as severe on newer models and I don't know how sensitive you are to it but just know it's a known issue and trade-of for getting good blacks and contrast like you are after.

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>>102237195
it's all about noise for me

I'm powering a system with under 600w needed, and cooling a 3080ti that isn't overclocked with a 7700 that isn't overclocked.

OK, here is a more representiticve example of my build. Fans on top, bottom and rear will be Arctic P12MAX fans

a OR b?

>>102237325
Both are honestly shit.

A. You have a fan blowing into a hot PSU pushing the air in that area that has cables in it. You then have fans at the bottom pushing hot air from the GPU (GPU fans also push the air UP) into that same area.
Now guess what, your CPU cooler is not getting cold air anymore. It's getting hot air from the GPU and PSU. Your CPU will get hotter.

B. Same problem, but now you're making a vortex at the top right. The cold air that fan sucks from the outside is immediately getting pushed out by the fan on the left. Same thing happens outside, the air gets immediately pushed back into the case without it having time to cool down and now you're stuck in a loop. Run it long enough and that air becomes hotter and hotter.

Both of these are so bad but if I had to pick it would be A.

>>102237403
>Both are honestly shit.
In real world testing this case WITHOUT ANY FANS outperforms almost every case on the market with fans.

I guess i will try both as i am getting the fans anyway.

>>102237094
>the side glow and the bright blacks on the IPS really surprised me.
ips panels have poor contrast, ~1000:1

>I was planning to go with 24" 1080p
fuck 1080p. its a dead, outdated res, and nobody should be buying new 1080p panels

>Is mini-led some special subset of VA panels?
miniled means that the backlight consists of several (typically more than 100, usually ~250 to ~1000) LEDs. this is in contrast with regular, non-miniled panels which have a single (or several, but acting as a single) backlight

in practice, depending on the number of backlights, picture quality can be increased greatly. old FALD panels with single or double digit number of backlight zones didn't offer any picture quality benefits. but minileds with zone counts in the 3 digits fare better, and the ones with more than 1000 zones fare better still. OLED, which can control each pixels brightness individually is ofc the king, but a miniled with > 1000 zones will do a good approximation

another important aspect to consider with minileds is the panel type. IPS panels have good response times but bad contrast, VA panels the opposite. when using a miniled monitor, the contrast, aka how good the monitor is at darkening its full blacks is very important. VA minileds are way better at hiding the imperfections inherent in miniled tech than IPS minileds, at the cost of worse response times ofc

the final and most important thing to consider is use cases. non-gaming use cases (work/media) do not require high hz/motion clarity, which is directly correlated with response times
even if you are gaming, how much you should value motion clarity depends on the kinds of games you play. if you're mostly playing strategy games and autism simulators, eg Civ and KSP, you really don't need any more than 60fps, nor do you need excellent response times. on the other hand, if you're mostly playing competitive FPS games like CS or fortnite, you probably care more about motion clarity that picture quality.

>>102237283
I'm replacing a 22" 1680x1050 monitor lol. I'd have to rely on fsr at 1440p with this build for triple a games, and I'm not into fast paced shooters. Is VA better than TN? I mean this old TN has better blacks than the new IPS I purchased, so why not get a newer TN with a higher refresh rate? how do newer TN compares with VA in terms of dark smearing? Or is TN dead now?
>>102237470
what's the point of buying 1440p if the hardware can't keep up?

>>102237234
>it manipulates a backlight
I don't think we know whether the new G-sync module has variable BFI capabilities yet, but considering how long it took Nvidia to update the G-sync module, it would be disappointing if there weren't similar plans equivalent to Pulsar for OLED. Possibly the module can be updated more frequently now, so best case maybe something equivalent is planned for a near future revision if it's not capable now

>The issue with the bfi
I've heard it's more about brightness (OLED brightness already being low), and not having the pixels lit for large portion of time decreases brightness even further, which is why it's not available in recent OLEDs. But maybe the flip side of that is to get acceptable brightness (or what they feel is acceptable), they really have to juice the pixels which they're not willing to do for obvious reasons. I would rather have the tech available with low brightness

>>102237537
the upcoming 1440p 480hz asus oled will have bfi at max 240hz

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How about something like this?

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>>102237554
>the upcoming 1440p 480hz asus oled will have bfi at max 240hz
Sadly, it appears the BFI intervals are still too low and Tim commented in his review that went up today that it doesn't look really any clearer with 240Hz BFI (Asus calls it ELMB even on OLED where it's not strobing) vs. 480 Hz No BFI:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=672&v=fLekvkdOQvI

>>102237614
the key there is you dont have to run games at max hz, you can get better clarity at 120hz or 240hz

Asked about upgrading some parts in/for my comp a few days ago, one was the monitor, originally wanted to get another one similar to my LG UltraGear 31.5" 2560 x 1440 144 Hz Monitor as a 2nd monitor but after a few responses such as >>102209677 and thinking about It I decided to try for an OLED.
So if the max I'm willing to spend is 750$ (USA for country) 1. What's the most cost efficient monitor I can/should buy and 2. Is it worth waiting till back Friday/cyber Monday or are items like this typically unaffected by dates?
This would be for gaming (very rarely fps, more rpgs/jrpgs) and watching videos

>>102237508
>what's the point of buying 1440p if the hardware can't keep up?
this comes back to the kind of games you play. if your hardware can keep with 1080p144, it can also do 1440p/60. and depending on what games you play, one of them will be preferable to the other.

>>102237689
>This would be for gaming (very rarely fps, more rpgs/jrpgs) and watching videos
both those things are a vote for 4k over 1440p. sadly, within your budget, you're only able to pick between 27/1440p/240hz oled and 32/4k/165hz miniled (the neo g7)
so yea, decide on which one you prefer.
note that as a general rule, WOLED panels seem to be a safer choice than qd-oled. so if you do end up going oled, it should either be an LG monitor or a monitor with an LG panel

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One of these for $58 (MSI MAG Force M100A, mesh case) in my local market/country or which case would you recommend as long as it cools since I don't see the case section in the OP anymore? There are Montechs in my city too but they cost like 75-85 bucks same ones that go for like 50-60 on Amazon

>>102237559
scraping this idea, SFF PSUs are too loud.

What's the best synthetic tool to see how much performance I'm losing by power limiting a GPU
I got a 7900XTX and oob board power was 400w, undervolted + increased power limits increased it to 440-450w but I didn't really notice a difference in game so I went the other way and undervolted + reduced power limits + silent bios and ended up at 300w and games still ran smoothly enough for me
I would use a game but I tend to lose focus and end up just playing the game instead of testing

>>102237696
>this comes back to the kind of games you play.
Triple a slop mate, playing last of us part 1 right now and it's just above 60 fps at 1080p on high

>>102237786
run cyberpunk bench

>>102238231
nooooooooooooooooooo

>>102238281
I don't own Cyberpunk 2077

>>102238312
why?

>>102238316
Because the setting doesn't interest me

>>102238316
Because the small penis is too big for me to feel represented

>>102238312
You can pirate the GOG version with ease

>>102238455
Do you think a guy who buys a 3k € gaming system feels the need to pirate a game thats 30€ on sale

>>102238477
I'm not buying anything that looks as ugly as Cyberpunk 2077 lol

>>102238499
I guess you dont buy a lot of games.

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https://youtu.be/HfI9rmTnxe8?si=HiKycRrP9TCwrRF_&t=331
>7900 xtx
>sub 60 fps
>crashing
>rendering errors
>fsr image breakup so bad you can see it even after youtube's encoding
>yep it's gaming time

Here's the """"fix"""" for the rendering error
>Users experiencing this issue may set Global Illumination to Low as a temporary workaround

>>102238504
No not really, the only upcoming games that have caught my eye are the alters and expedition 33.
I just simply don't like the aesthetic/world of Cyberpunk 2077, therefore I'm not buying it.

Any precautions before taking GPU apart?
Ordered PTM7950 but didn't order putty because it's a clusterfuck to navigate around fake ones and real ones. Card is 1.5 year old, would pads rip? I've seen it disassembled before, pads look dark color, is it good or pad?

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>>102238518
>the alters
>don't like the aesthetic/world of Cyberpunk 2077
how can one man be so pleb and so based at the same time

>>102238505
don't pry or lever with all your force, gently twist and the heatpads will release without ripping vram or the die off the board

>>102238557
meant for >>102238524

>>102238518
There's a demo for the Alters. It's UE5 but not particularly heavy

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>>102228272
the rumors were right
at least this means arrowlake will be mega efficient from using the industry's best node

>>102238574
I've already played it, hence the interest. Average frame rate at 1440p was ~230 with AFMF2.
I'm still looking for a test though, guessing I should just use firestrike or something if no ones got any other ideas.

>>102238557
gotta risk it because of 105C hotspot at 350w, worst case will order some putty and use iGPU while I wait, still scary

>>102238590
>>102238590
>>102238590

>>102231895
Apparently the Dell G274D has a couple of different panels, one of which has far worse contrast and brightness than advertised.

>>102238580
they managed to pull off 2nm this early? yields must be abysmal

>>102238599
Monitors Unboxed just tested it and didn't have complaints, although I didn't watch the review thoroughly

>>102238609
I found out about it from the comments of that video commenting on the problem. I haven't done a deep dive on it, but it seems there's some variance in panel quality.

>>102237786
Unigine superposition

>>102237559
kek

>>102237722
Is it worth buying used/renewed/refurbished monitors or should I stick to new?

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Redpill me on passive cooling

>>102238908
If you can see them in person before purchasing why not, just look for scratches/pressure point marks/brightness. If the seller uses a grading scale always assume they're grading one tier higher in terms of quality than the monitor condition actually is.

>>102238920
Meant more via online from sites like Amazon, unfortunately I don't really live near any place that would sell used monitors I could physically see.

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Fucked up and ordered mobo (AsRock B650M-HDV/M.2) without checking compatibility with my Noctua NH-D14. The tower used goes for ~$40 in my country so considering selling it, but what more compact and decent can I get instead for that money? CPU will be tray 7600 without the box cooler.

>>102239274
>free of charge

>>102238919
its silent so you can hear the coil whine better