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this is my current build, got the mobo as a refurbished for like $160, as my mobo was dying. i'm doing a light OC to CPU 4.8gHz and RAM 2800mHz, well worth the cost imo. i'm thinking of getting a peerless assassin fan cooler, but that will likely be my last build as this will last me for the next 2 years. is there anything i should pick up on sale this black friday or if it happens to be cheap?

>>102250393
I'm getting a locked 120fps at 3840x1600 (although it's black barred at the edges) with my 14900k.
70c TO 80c CPU P cores, 60 on the 3080, though I undervolted both so my P cores are 'only' 5.5ghz and this is on the EK 360 AIO front mounted to get cool air.
I process lasso'd it to only use P cores. With HT enabled it's still hitting all the P core threads to 95% to 100%.
The only game recently that's hit my PC this hard was Skylines 2 and that was brutally unoptimised.

>>102254681
Nice, I run a 5ghz 10900k myself.
Peerless assassin is outdated
The phantom spirit Evo is the updated version with even better cooling at the same cost

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>>102254681
I would look for a 11700k or kf (should be good after a bios update according to the QVL)
Maybe an upgrade to 2x32gb ram sticks (3200 CL16 or 3600 CL18)
SSD space if you need it (and can fit it), like a MX500 or any leftover stock of a P5 Plus.

>>102254683
I think it's the amount of enemies. There might be some optimization fuckery too, because you're always just hosting a coop server when you play even in solo.
I think it's mostly the sheer number of enemies, and the game actually using all the threads it can find. I have an 5800x3d with pbo -30 on all cores and a 280 liquid freezer 2, and I get around 78°c, and my 3090 is undervolted to 850mv, keeping it at 71°c. It's possible the game is truly unoptimized and pulls the cpu too hard, but I'm not sure. Maybe it's games in general becoming more cpu heavy.
Your temps are pretty good though, so it shows that properly setting up the CPU and the cooling makes a world of difference.

Got a silent click mouse, it's so nice, highly recommend if you use either open headphones or speakers.

>>102254748

thanks for the cpu cooler recommendation, gonna keep an eye on that. from what've read i need water cooling to go near 5gHz OC for 10600K. i'm not sure i can properly follow water cooling maintenance and upkeep, i already find the idea of re-pasting my thermal compoind every 3 years tedious.

>>102254750

my next CPU/mobo/RAM will be whatever AMD launches in 2 years. might consider intel if they somehow unfuck themselves by then, and only at a steep discount.

i was pretty nervous about my base clock 2333 mHz RAM sticks but 2800 mHz should keep me going until 2026/7. might consider a refurbished 11700K at a steep discount, like $125.

>have 2400G
>passive tower heatsink barely warms up
>swapped to 2600 cos I could
>cunt is boiling at over 70C on fucking idle

How? They're both basically the same in terms of power ratings, both were running on stock BIOS settings

>>102254870
you sure thermal paste is fine? it shouldn't idle that high

>>102254838
Overclocking greatly depends on your CPU bin
Some can run 5.2ghz while others only do 4.9ghz so don't expect much if you're already hardwalling at 4.8-4.9ghz

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> microcenter selling 7600x3d at low price with good bundle
> closed microcenter is half an earth away

>>102254948
7600x3d bundles suck when the 7800x3d ones are only $50 more and give you more ram

>>102254994
$150 more now

>>102254882
The paste is probably not fine (I'm waiting on a bigger cooler anyway and I've set it to 45W in BIOS for now, which helped), but does it really make that much of an impact? The heatsink is boiling hot to touch, so surely there's enough heat being transferred to it already? Or does the paste itself have a cooling effect instead of just transferring the heat to the heatsink? Halp me undestrand

>>102255052
>but does it really make that much of an impact?
yea
>The heatsink is boiling hot to touch
that doesn't mean anything, is your case ventialted at all? I'd repaste it.

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>>102254994
I don't have bundles, I have prices 20-25% higher.
Whyyyyyy

>>102254681
>i'm doing a light OC to CPU 4.8gHz and RAM 2800mHz
>>102254838
>i was pretty nervous about my base clock 2333 mHz RAM sticks but 2800 mHz should keep me going until 2026/7

am i misunderstanding you or are you running your 3600C16 sticks at 2800 MHz? why?

>>102255221
Nah sounds like he is running his 2133mt/s (1066mhz) ram overclocked to 2800mt/s (1400mhz)

>>102255255
his parts list includes a set of 2x16 3600C16 memory

Why everyone here is buying OLED? They are expensive as fuck.

>>102255526
look gud
gud hdr
gud motion

>>102255175
>that doesn't mean anything
What? The heatsink used to be barely warm now it's extra hot, how can it not mean anything roflmao

Isn't the whole point of the heatsink to take all the heat away from the CPU?
Well, it's boiling hot, so heat transfer is clearly happening, and the heatsink and the case and the ambient temperature are all the same. But all that extra heat is coming from the CPU in the first place, right? If the issue is purely the fact there's not enough paste, then I want to understand the physics behind it.

>is your case ventialted at all?
It is, but this didn't matter at all with the 2400G, especially on idle, so I feel like it shouldn't matter now either.

>>102255636
Unga black not look grey bunga

>>102255526
just be rich, what is the problem? also $800 isn't that much of money if you have a job and don't waste it on beer and cigarettes. priorities man.

>>102255674
it can take all the heat from the center but no heat from the side where CCD is thus making sensor show 70C, repasting is so easy, why are you so against it?

>>102255700
dat too

>>102255721
> also $800 isn't that much
Decent OLED cost like $1600-1800 where I live.
> don't waste it on beer and cigarettes.
Bruh. Not my case.

>>102255526
They used to be 3-4x of what they are now.

>>102255727
>it can take all the heat from the center but no heat from the side where CCD is thus making sensor show 70C
Your logic would make sense if the sensor showed 70C but the heatsink was cool. However, the heatsink itself is already at 70C, as confirmed by the skin of my hands, so what you're proposing makes no sense.
>repasting is so easy, why are you so against it?
Like I said:
>already have a cooler arriving soon, so I'll have to redo it anyway
>already limited it to 45W in BIOS and have no immediate need to change that
I'm not here looking for solutions, I want to understand the problem.

>>102255883
> They used to be 3-4x of what they are now.
But they are still expensive. Usually in PC -monitor combo monitor was 10% of the price. Nowadays even with 7800-4080 PC it's too expensive to have OLED.

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>>102255721
>don't waste it on beer and cigarettes

>>102254610
>1080p: RTX 4070 Super, RX 7900 GRE

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>>102255922
Then stick to your 24" dell office monitor and complain that games look like shit.

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>>102254610
>avoid gamemax
>psu tierlist in the very next line has gamemax ranked higher than many that are recommended in these threads

>>102255979
I have LG 27GP850-B to my 4080

>>102255970
Intel once again invented performance points

>>102255970
>least vague wish washy fencesitting middle of the fence mlid statement

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>>102255997
>ksf phosphor
oh no no no no no

>>102255979
Why can't they just make a monitor that can display all the colors?

>>102256003
This was expected, Intel can't pump 500W into Arrow Lake so it can't clock as high nullifying the IPC improvements.
The single CCD X3D chip will be king of gaming, especially 0.1% FPS, since Intel has nothing to combat the huge cache.

>>102256016
?

>>102255885
>However, the heatsink itself is already at 70C, as confirmed by the skin of my hand
sure thing bro
>When the basal layer of the epidermis reaches 44°C, burn injury occurs.
>Beyond 70°C, rate of damage is so rapid that interpretation can be difficult.

>>102256024
they already did
notice how you can see them all on your current monitor

>>102255970
ah yes , the random text screenshot of gospel

The 3060 and 2080 super are basically the same price used now at around $200 but I'm seeing the 3060 sell a lot more. Am I missing something? Everything online says the 2080 super is a much better card.

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>>102256086
You might seriously have brain damage, you know that? How hot would the actual surface have to be, to transfer enough heat to the basal layer of the epidermis to cause it to heat up to 70C in a split second that it takes to touch and move your hand away in pain? Let me give you a hint: much hotter than that. And you wouldn't be able to just hold your hand there for a second either. What a fucking retard you are.

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>>102256033
>he doesnt know

>>102256192
because uninformed customers are ready to pay more for newer stuff assuming it's always better so stores take advantage.

Why is Antec a pajeet brand now?

>>102256024
No idea as it is way beyond my brainlet status. However that is the end goal and oled is another step towards it along with microLED if it ever becomes viable for mass production. There's a few other display technologies in the prototype stage that look like they will be able to push more of the visible spectrum.

>>102256245
When someone posting pictures without explaining this usually nothingburger and trolling

>>102256257
Never heard of it.

>>102256296
a simple google search will show why i was laughing at the monitor

>>102256267
lcd is closer than either of those. hx3110

>>102256314
Then you can provide us with simple link, right?

>>102254610
Ok boys

Looking to tweak my storage

What size/model/brande SSD should I get for important files I don't want to lose. And which HDD should I get for media storage

Currently have a new 1tb m.2 as my install drive. But also have a 256gb SSD I had for games, 1tb wd blue HDD for media and my old instalm120gb dirve

What's the standard these days for SSD for game sand important files since 256 is feeling small

>>102256230
>For superficial dermal burns, the rate of tissue damage increases logarithmically with a linear increase in temperature.
Touching 70C as you claim would give you burns INSTANTLY.

>>102256333
google.com

>>102256354
> Trolling continues

>>102256340
nm790/sn850x/p44
exos/wd red pro/mg10/barracuda pro

>>102255997
> I have LG 27GP850-B to my 4080
As usual, such a 27-inch WQHD panel uses a special chemical compound (KSF Phosphor layer) applied by nano-particles to the usual "white" backlight LEDs, which made it possible to change their luminescence spectrum and increase the color coverage in comparison with the AH-IPS matrix with a conventional (not modified) W-LED backlight.
The color coverage of the tested monitor was 98% DCI-P3 and 135 % sRGB

I don't get it, why it's bad or something.

>>102256352
My african american nigger in Christ... I've made enough lattes in my time (to 70C, funny enough) to know that you are simply clueless as to how hot 70C is to touch. It's hot. Hot enough that you probably won't be able to hold your hand on it for more than a second. But it's not hot enough to give you le INSTANT burns right in the fucking basal layer of epidermis. Quit embarrasing yourself. Run a stress test on your CPU, wait for it to get to 70C, then touch the heatsink. Your hand won't turn to ash and fall off, unless you glue it to the heatsink, I can promise you that much.

>>102256367
>solidigm
>requires intel's bloatware/spyware to preform optimally
>doesn't work on linux
>the cheaper models requires an extension if your mobo doesn't support 2230 m.2 ssds because the slot is only for wifi/bt extension cards

>>102256472
windows is bloatware

>>102256453
>>102256366
i think he's talking about the blurrier motion than counterparts but that's nothing dramatic

>>102254610
Setting up a gtx970 PC for my 8 year old nephew.

What games or other programs should I set it up with if he likes terraria and Minecraft.

Or what emulators?

>>102256555
I don't think it's noticable at all. I have S24 ultra and it's screen more blurry that that LG.

>>102256622
cad
statisfactory
ardmax keylogger and a bunch of other parental controls if you are dumb enough to plug the ethernet cable in
emulators are different for each console and are garbage to play on without a controller
qbittorrent and teach him how to pirate so he doesn't have to rely on you for everything
oh and try being a fucking father instead of letting the monitor be a babysitter for your neglected kid

>>102256638
yeah i should have said *some* counterparts

>>102256682
Nah it's for my nephew. Think I'm better off keeping it here for him to play with if he is over?

Or should I put one of those beat/tune music maker apps on it and hope he is able to eventually figure it out lol

>>102254610
Doing a fresh windows install on a new 1tb m.2 seeing that my 10 year old 110gb is kind of really small and is having this weird problem where it keeps randomly filling up despite constantly deleting stuff.

Once I do the fresh install can I just plug in the rest of my hardrives and ssd? Mostly just game storage or media storage and they'll all be there accessible ready to use?

And for the product key I just use my old product key I used for the old 110gb SSD install?

>>102256622
>What games or other programs should I set it up with if he likes terraria and Minecraft.
Rimworld and Factorio.

>>102256622
>>102256833
Oh, and Kerbal Space Program.

>>102256793
ah if it's not your kid then yeah better be in front of the screen instead of out there unsupervised
basically install 1-2 of each genre your card can run
whenever he is over I still think it's better to spend time with him and teach him some cool shit like how to torrent or how to never see adds ads again or how to play console games without a console and other things that will seem like magic
get him into modding too because vanilla MC sucks
when he is a bit more knowledgable you can teach him how to pirate denuvo games on linux mint too because some of them are still uncracked on windows and mint is retard proof

>>102256827
youll need to bring the drives online in disk management

is 7700xt a good upgrade from a 2070, im on a 1440p monitor :p

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>>102256922
not really

>>102256941
I hope you're being ironic

is it worth waiting for 9950x3d or should I just buy 7950x3d? for wfh programming and gaming 1440p

>102253175
>102253175
Should have clarified I'm still a poorfag, I can save some autismbucks but I've never had more than €1000 in my bank account, don't think I'll be buying an x090 of any kind.

Since you both suggested Nvidia I researched, yeah looks like HIP just has questionable industry support so I'm stuck eating the green shit instead of the red shit unless I wait 3+ yrs for HIP to mature. Probably I'll get an RTX 3060Ti it seems to have a good cost/core/performance ratio, thanks anons.

>>102253789
Damn I can't believe you can get a CPU that rips that hard for that price now, I'll probably snag one on sale. Thanks anon.

>>102257168
Meant 3060 not Ti, the Ti will kill me in my sleep.

>>102257154
9k gains are almost nonexistent and considering 7800x3d was only slightly better than 5800x3d I wouldn't expect anything better.
get the 7k and pray AM5 supports cpus up to 11k
if you aren't playing cpu heavy games that actually benefit from the 3d cache you may as well buy a cheaper cpu that will perform better under workload if those exist

>>102257272
>pray AM5 supports cpus up to 11k
Didn't AMD say they prolonged AM5 till 2028? So that's when the last generation will be out.

>>102257287
yeah so buy 7950x3d now and then 11950x3d when it drops in price

how well does 7950x3d work on linux?
i read that to get 100% perforamnce from in windows you need to do cpu shenanigans is it the same on linux?

>>102257338
I bought 7600 because I didn't want to pay double for the 7800X3D with its worse single core performance, most games I play are CPU intensive and I'm not interested in squeezing every single frame I can out of my rig; so it just was better value to me. Hopefully when 11k is out an 11600 will be a significant upgrade.

>>102257272
i mostly play world of warcraft and path of exile both from what I understand CPU heavy games
>>102257338
okay you convinced that sounds like a nice plan

>>102256922
Radeon is terrible for all monitors

>>102257347
linux does not have an xbox game bar

>>102257426
before you do you should also try and check if the productivity programs actually benefit from the 7950x3d because not always does productivity=higher cpu load

>>102257154
Hard to say. Compiling perf for large projects seems to be around 15% better on 9950x than 7950x, at least on Linux.
Supposedly, x3d chip(let)s won't have their clocks reduced as much as the previous ones, which should help with gaming. (7700x had 8% faster turbo clock than 7800x3d, 5.4 vs 5.0 Ghz.)

Does power draw on a monitor change by much when changing its static refresh rate? Say from 120 to 180. I know the main thing that increases/decreases its kWh/month are brightness and HDR mode.

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Day 519 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.

>>102257457
DAS RITE

>>102257493
Only when you use AMD GPUs

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>>102257493
Your monitor is using more power when its at higher hz. Phones have VRR now and you can see this in real time how your battery drains faster when its more in high hz mode than low hz mode.

>>102257538
What does GPU have to do with monitor only power draw

>>102256922
It's fine yeah
Do check if there are no cheaper RX 6800s since performance is identical but it has a tad more vram, if the price is the same or lower might as well
Sometimes the 7800xt is also not much more expensive than the 7700xt and can be better value
and if you want Nvidia stuff, used 3080s go for around the same price and can be pretty interesting

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>>102257457
I am buying a 7900xt because I am voting with my wallet and I think nvidia has nothing to offer for 700 eurodollars therefore should be punished for overpricing the 4070 ti super and scuffing the 4070 super on purpose
not to mention they explicitly stated they don't give a shit about gaymers anymore and attracted the attention of doj

>>102257566
Everything when you have an AMD gpu

Do you think a Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 750W would suffice for future mid range builds?
I know about Nvidia requiring more juice but I'm not in the habit of overspending on GPUs

>>102257750
Elaborate on what GPU has to do with monitor draw, speak plainly instead of being retarded.

>>102257750
My 4070 Super Nvidia GPU has problems with Gsync and can't idle properly.

>>102257811
Yeah all the nvidia drivers these last few months for 4070 family sucks dick pure shader stutter & pc glitches.

do I need aio cooler for 7950x3d or can I just go with some thing like Noctua NH-D15?

>>102257811
Uh maybe it's your shitty free sync knock off monitor? My actual G-Sync monitor idles fine.

>>102257811
lol sucks for you then

>>102257841
You don't need an AIO, but it will help under sustained all core loads. The D15 is too expensive for what it offers as just about any modern dual tower performs very similarly, both in temps and noise.

>>102257801
You honestly think an nvidiot knows anything?

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>>102254610
Buying a new computer, been using an old laptop for half a decade now.

Mostly gaming. I'd like it so I don't have to upgrade too many parts over the next 10 years.

Budget is under 3K€, France.
I am super lazy (busy) and clumsy so I'm buying the computer pre-built through PCSpecialist.

https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/NPKK6D

Please help, I have no idea what I'm doing, especially regarding the future proofing / choice of case and CPU.

>>102257544
Yeah but 60Hz is really bad in desktop. I guess I'll settle for 120.

>>102257942
You are spending way too much on that case. It's a good case but it's really for people that buy a lot of HDDs because you can convert it to hold a lot of hard drives for NAS/Home server use. Really a POP Air would suit you better.

Hi, I am building my first build and have some questions

The build:
Case
>corsair 5000d
GPU
>Sapphire 7900 XTX Nitro+ Vapor
CPU
>7900x3d
Cooler
>BeQuiet Dark Rock Pro 5

Do I need additional fans with this or are 2 stock on the case + BeQuiet enough?

>>102258066
>>7900x3d
in no fucking world do you need that piece of shit
either get the 7800x3d or fork out of 7950x3d

>>102258064
Thanks for the info! I'm afraid a smaller case would mean that fans wouldn't fit?

Any opinion on the rest of the build?

>>102257942
14700K is a good processor, just make sure voltage stays low to avoid degradation. There's lots of guides available.

>>102258066
>>102258079
Sorry, it's a typo, I meant 7800x3d
original question still stands

what is my alternative for Liquid Freezer III since from what Ive seen its actually kind of hard to mount on AMD cpus and I am a retard with a screwdriver

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>>102254610
Brehs, what's currently the strongest GPu that doesn't require PCIE-auxiliary power?

>>102258171
That's just AMD for you. Stop being a coward and mount it.

>>102258190
RTX A2000

>>102257493
Higher refresh won't increase the draw of the panel itself much, but it will increase the draw of the actual compute components. It could barely increase draw, or it could increase it 50%+, depending on how shitty the monitor's specific engineering is.

>>102258190
A2000 is an option like the anon below said but it tends to cost an arm and a leg
RTX 3050 6gb is probably your best option @75w

>>102258171
How is it hard to mount? You line it up, tighten each corner enough to merely hold it in position then tighten up in a X pattern to ensure even pressure.

>>102257942
https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/MbcG7R
try link related and get a case you like by checking if it would fit the cooler/gpu
intel fucked up big time with their newer gens and not only does 14th gen degrade but it also draws too much power for no reason
you can cheap out on the motherboard and get the asrock b650 hdv m.2 if you don't want to upgrade the cpu which you probably wont have to even 10 years from now because we don't know how greedy manufacturers will be and whether they will keep updating the bios for older boards in 2028
grab the cheapest expo CL30 6000mhz ram
drop solidigm because they require external software if you want to get what you paid for
your budget is 2.5k but you stated under 3k so maybe consider a 4080 super for a bit higher resell value
for psu get the cheapest atx3 A tier from this list https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/
why would you pay for windows when you can pirate it easily? there are better ways to flush €140 down the drain

I have a Riotoro Enigma G2
I think Riotoro doesn't exist anymore
Anyways it's been fine and somewhat quiet for many years, haven't had any particular problems with it on 3 different builds. Now I need this adapter for my new nvidia GPU (a 4070 super) and sure enough it's not pushing hard at all, specially after undervolting, but it is kind of unsightly. Is it time to upgrade? I was thinking of grabbing an NZXT C850.

>>102258171
AIOs are the easiest thing to mount. Bulky heatsinks are way harder. If anyone remembers the old Hyper 212 installation you could cut your fingers.

>>102258316
Also, does ATX 3.1 really matter all that much?
I keep seeing ATX 3.0 PSUs everywhere really.

>>102258294
im watchin gamernexus review and the guy mounting has some issues with it

>>102255267

10600k base clock maxes out at 2666MHz., 2133MHz on shittier mobos.

I got cold feet about repasting my GPU.
Built 5 PCs without issues, but I'm scared to repaste the GPU. What is the worst that can happen? pads rip?

>>102258550
he has issues with most things because he got fat fingers

I have a ultrawide LG 34GL750 for gaming and image editing, and I like it a lot. As a second monitor I have a super old 24" dell monitor (S2421HN I believe? it looks like it at least) and I wanted to upgrade that. Since I'm stupid, I'm thinking about running two ultrawides instead of one ultrawide + one "normal" monitor. for now I'm planning on getting monitor arms to hold both ultrawides, one on top of the other.
I was looking into the LG 34GP63A-B since it's a direct upgrade from my current monitor but it's still the same size so it wouldn't look weird when mounted one on top of the other. Ideas?

How hard it is to build a PC from scratch? My parts arrive next week and I'm getting nervous. At first I thought it was just "put the square in the square hole" but now I'm not so sure anymore, lots of cables and pastes and stuff.

>>102258779
why not get ultra ULTRA wide? Something like Odyssey G9 49"?

>>102258799
Mainly the price point kek but I also double-time my main monitor as my work monitor (I plug my work laptop into it) so having a second monitor to keep track of stuff from my personal PC would be the best

>>102258796
watch some vids
watch some vids that have your parts in it
get nice magnetic screwdriver, get antistatic foam, prepare space
in general it would be a bad design for manufacturers for pcs to be hard to assemble

>>102258796
>"put the square in the square hole"
that's rpetty much it and tiny bit of finesse when handling CPU and CPU cooler
my advice put a cpu cooler before inserting motherboard into the case and watch couple hour video about how to build it just in case, it's really easy if you are not in a hurry
I put together a PC in 15m few months back, it's not that hard, be methodical, think before doing.

>>102258817
mid range category sucks, get whatever is cheaper in your region in resolution and size you want.

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Thermalright products are hideously ugly

>>102258833
>>102258820
Thanks for the tips
>magnetic screwdriver + antistatic foam
>cpu cooler before motherboard
Will do o7

>>102258750
the worst that can happen is you overtighten the cooler and crack the gpu die and completely kill the card rendering it useless forever. but that's the worst and likely won't happen.

>>102257942

shit case
shit noname cpu cooler
shit SSD
meh RAM
case too big

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>>102258888
I need to grow some quads I guess.

>>102258881
i think it looks fine. the rubbers should have been the same color with the fan frame tho.

>>102258881
I don't care. I'm not one of you faggots that have glass case.

>>102258881
>Company called Thermalright has a rival called Thermaltake
>nobody can tell them apart
can't make this shit up

>>102258999
just say you cant do cable managment

>>102258933
You could also not tighten the cooler enough and your GPU will overheat and die. So good luck, I guess.

>>102257942
That cpu will die after a year of use btw

>>102259014
I don't have to. I built in glass cases before for family and friends. I don't need to waste my time and do cable management in my case.

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thoughts on https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xThFcH?
the things im not sure about
>mobo
do i need anything more expensive? in the future i would like to upgrade the cpu to the 9950xd3, can this mobo go against me in anyway?
>nvme
do I need the heatsink? the heasink one is cheapear/same price as not heatsink one
im not sure what case and power to get
for case I don't care about rgb or glass
should I just get FSP Hydro Ti Pro 1000W from OP?

>>102259011
Because it's literally a ripoff company

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>>102259015
that's unlikely, it will throttle down or shut down before that can happen, overheating death is a thing of the past
I'll be very very careful.

>>102259034
>7900 XTX
why?
>ATX motherboard, not mATX
why?
>AIO instead of a good air cooler
why?

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>>102258881
>Thermalright products are hideously ugly
>t. noctua lifetime customer

>>102259099
noctua looks very industrial and has a distinctive color scheme.

Somehow it isn't as awful as thermalright

>>102258888
its pretty hard to overtighten the cooler by hand. these things are torqued by machines at the factory so there's a lot more mounting pressure there.

>>102259132
machines are set to a certain newton meter value wh knows what value it is though
do they tighten all four retention screws at the same time too?

>>102259122
the fuck are you smoking fanboy?
noctua fans look like some dollar store bargain bin chink trash and the color scheme is literal shit

>>102259034
honestly if you're going to upgrade to the 9950X3D in a few months I don't see the point spending an extra $200 on the 7950X3D over the 7800X3D unless you really need double the cores on this build

>>102259159
let's just say they're torqued so much your paste pumps out faster

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My 3060ti can't handle Final Fantasy XVI at 1440p. I don't give a fuck about other games (maybe MH Wilds next year). I know that the 5000 cards are around the corner, but I don't want to wait 1 year for the 5070 to come out. Also I can bought one cheaper while im here in the US in comparison to my country. It's the 4070 super a good alternative for a good 1440p experience for modern games? Any other suggestion?

>>102259270
4070ti super

>>102259270
7800xt/7900GRE runs the game better than Nvidia. FFXVI is made for AMD.

>>102259270
Are you playing in max setting and unlocked FPS or something? A 3060ti can handle 1440p 60 FPS and medium settings.
Hell, I played XIV on a 3050 laptop on mid settings at 1440p and it was a solid 60 FPS.

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>>102259276
kek

>>102258156
Thanks! Do you mean the 0x129 microcode thingy?

>>102258306
Is there an easier way to find if a case fits than by trying each one by one?
The link for PSUs you sent advises 1000+W, I take it 850W is too low for my CPU/GPU?
All your input is much appreciated!

>>102258924
ur mum's too big
I also take constructive criticism!

>>102259020
Is it because it's 14th gen, or because of its specific model?

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Only one corner of the CPU cover came loose when I pressed down the lever. How do I get this thing off without breaking the CPU?

>>102259310
14th gen + i7 means it is bad yes, get a ryzen 7 instead

>>7900 XTX
>why?
why not? i want a powerful GPU and i use linux so i want amd
>>ATX motherboard, not mATX
>why?
mATX seems more annoying to assebmle and I don't care about size
>>AIO instead of a good air cooler
>why?
dunno seems cool and I never had one and I want to mount an bulky air cooler again
>>102259202
I do care about core count (also going to use this PC for wfh programming) and willing to pay for it

>>102259313
Lift it back up and just pop it off.
DO NOT TOUCH THE CPU. It should be slotted in correctly already. Unless you want to double check you didn't fuck up a pin. Just take the cover off and put the holder back on.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LKbTsh My PC is 6ish years old. I play strategy games and sometimes other genres as well but mostly old games + emulators, What could be my best upgrade?or should I build a new PC?

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>>102259122
>noctua looks very industrial
Compared to?

is true gen5 nvmes are useless and gen4 are just better/same?

>>102259309
>30.5% more power for 16.3% more frames
oooof

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>>102259365
embrace gen5

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>>102259309
Lmao

>>102259270
4080 Super

>>102259310
>The link for PSUs you sent advises 1000+W, I take it 850W is too low for my CPU/GPU?
850 is good for the build but you have been using a 10 year old laptop for a decade now so I assume the next upgrade will be in 2035 so the extra overhead doesn't hurt and it was the cheapest a tier atx 3 psu I could find in omlettestan while the other ones are less watts for more money. I would only consider the dark power 13 for the titanium rating but it shouldn't be needed with all of your nuclear power plants even if it's probably the best psu money can buy
I forgot to mention I have included a 2TB SSD but if you don't need the storage you could get the 1tb version with the exact same name for much worse eur to gb ratio

>>102259325
I was told Intel > AMD (rather, Intel is more expensive but more effective), was I lied to?

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>>102259309
lol this is the same guy that said a 4070ti Super is worth it over a 4090. bro is just saying shit

>>102259276
200usd for +10 fps sounds awful anon
>>102259289
DLSS support it's the deal breaker for me, that's why im buying Nvidia atm
>>102259301
I dont want to play on medium/low settings, and even with those settings the game struggles a lot on 1440p.
>>102259418
I dont want to pay 1000usd for a gpu

Unless the 5000 series comes with some revolutionary IA tech, they don't look like a huge step from these 4000 super series.

>>102259365
they are objectively faster but only in the workloads that actually need them.

gaming is not a bandwidth focused workload its a latency workload.

>>102259464
for the money it kind of is

>>102259270
I'm also in this boat, just not with ffxiv. Just decided to pick up a 4080 super come later this month. I'm holding out that best buy will restock a FE before I need it.

>>102259471
DLSS support is not a dealbreaker. Are you fucking stupid. It looks blurrier than FSR3.1 in FFXVI because Square Enix fucked up the implementation. You have to mod the game to make it look sharper but its still worse fps than AMD.

>>102259471
>>I dont want to pay 1000usd for a gpu
If you want no hassle 1440p that's the minimum

>>102259451
no. this used to be the case a few years ago but now it has flipped

Intel is more expensive now and their CPU's have had manufacturing issues recently and some bad design flaws leading to low life on parts such as the 14900k and 14700k, Intel also consumes alot more power than AMD cpu's as well so these days AMD is the logical choice, for budget get a ryzen 5 7600 for gaming the the Ryzen 7 7800X3D is best and for multicore either the Ryzen 9 7900/7950x is good

>>102259451
That held true until amd started releasing 16-core cpus years ago

>>102259451
>I was told Intel > AMD
I wonder who tells other people this
probably someone who is still butthurt about bulldozer

>>102259471
NGL you sound clueless and you easily scammed. That's probably why you're so influenced into overpaying for GPUs. It's sad to see m8.

>>102259496
So what? FSR 3.1 is on all Nvidia cards anyway

>>102259512
FFXVI is optimized for AMD not Nvidia. Hence why entire 4070 family performs worse than 7900GRE in that game. It started development on straight up AMD dev kits.

>>102259509
seething amdrone nobody wants to buy fucking awful radeon retard gpus go back to shilling on youtube for them

>>102259525
He is literally going to overpay for a 12gb gpu to run a game that clearly not optimized for his green GPU.

>>102259471
XIV is also more CPU bound. What is your CPU?
Because if you have a shit CPU it doesn't matter what your GPU is if your CPU can't process all the shit going on in the screen.

>>102259438
I wish PCSpecialist had all those components on their list. Thanks for the additional explanation!

>>102259504
>>102259506
That makes sense, I was just working on old info. Kind regards for your patience

>>102259508
bulldozer?

How do I make my cpu cooler more quiet

>>102259586
>bulldozer?
Just a term from a bygone era, don't worry about it

>>102258858
Might as well do exactly that. Thank you!

>>102259600
Lower your CPU voltage so it doesn't get hot.

>>102259600
does it go wrrrrr when you open chrome or something? set up a kick off timer in bios

>>102259635
how many watts are in a volt?

5800x3d is +$170 compared to 5700x3d where i live. I like gaming but i do other stuff too, like development. However, i can pay and feel like the 10% perf. increase will be important in 2-3 years (which is when i'll start to consider a new kit). Worth it?

>>102259707
no

>>102254610
Do an old Alienware Aurora R5, with 6700K, 32ram and the GTX1080 worth it for 340USD?

Path tracing should rely on the CPU to figure out where the llight/shadow should go. Most games don't even utilize 30% of it and it should offload some of the strain on the already maxed GPU
Nvidia hire me

>>102259751
the only intel gens worth spending any money on is 4th 10th and 12th gen

>>102259600
you can probably set a cTDP limit (Eco Mode) in BIOS.

>>102259690
>does it go wrrrrr when you open chrome or something?
My solution to that was making all fans strictly manual. Can't trust BIOS with that shit at all. On all my MSI boards, If RAM is set above a certain frequency, the fan curves will be reset to whatever it thinks is best. It's the most annoying "feature" and I couldn't find a way to disable it.

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>>102259707
No, 10% is nothing

>>102259540
>12gb
I can hear the screeching and anxiety from here

>>102259498
No

>>102259522
FFXVI is one of the worst performing games to come out on PC recently. If you can pirate it, fine, but on principle no one should buy games that have have major technical flaws. Stuttering etc is completely unacceptable

>>102259820
same goes for cyberjank aka the RT posterboy

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>>102259400
>hogwarts with rt and framegen
4070 Ti is better than the 7900 XTX under those conditions
Radeon doesn't have Frame Gen in Hogwarts so the Radeon card fails automatically anyway

>>102259270
4070 Super is the best 1440p option available right now

>>102257824
Moronic FUD

>>102257725
>I am buying a 7900xt
Sure you are

>>102259883
Thanks anon!
>>102259491
Nice anon, it looks like a great card desu. But I can't afford a 1000usd gor a gpu atm. I'm from a third world country.
>>102259496
I'm not using it exclusively for FFXVI tho, I'm planning on using it with other demanding games too
>>102259498
4070 super seems great for 1440p on ultra/high settings, are we watching the same benchmarks?
>>102259509
Which amd alternatives could you recommend me then? FFXVI its my major focus, but not the only game I want to play. I'm at the 600usd max price mark as a reference.
>>102259579
Im talking about XVI anon, not XIV. I have a Ryzen 5600x tho

>RX 7600 crashing regularly since i got it a year ago
>no amount of downclocking, undervolting, or DDU/driver installs fixed it
>turn off discord hardware acceleration
>the 7600 is perfectly stable and overclocks nicely
as usual, AMD is in fact based and discord is a fucking piece of shit

>>102259921
>console gpu can only do 1 thing
no surprise it's same shit inside a playstation

>>102259909
The 4070 super would be fine then, but the 4070ti has 16GB. Spending just a bit more now would probably hold off an upgrade in the future.

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>>102256922
No, doesn't have DLSS and it's already too weak for 1440p without FSR, which of course is garbage

>>102256192
People bought way more 3060s, so of course you'll see more of them changing hands

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Got pic related
>3060ti """oc"""
should i even consider a 1440p screen or am i better off at 1080p?

>>102259921
which browser, chrom* or firefox

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>>102259883
Nah

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>>102259992
1440p is so cheap that there's not really a reason not to buy one. You can get the AOC Q27G3XMN for under $300, and it has passable HDR. 1440p DLSS Performance looks better than 1080p DLSS Quality anyway, and they cost the same

>>102260059
I was trying to be nice to Radeon, but here's what happens when foliage shows up on screen. Poor Radeon

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>>102260084
Poor 7900xt beating 4090

>>102260084
I kneel Arc chads

>>102259921
i told everyone here since last year radeon have issues running multiple hardware acceleration program.

photo/video editor+browser, game+web browser, and game+video player can cause random driver timeout.

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>>102260093
>more of AMD Steve's benchmarks
You really think posting 1080p is going to save you
This is what AMDfriends are reduced to because their GPUs don't work with modern monitors

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>>102255995
The PSU tier list isn't in the OP. Because it's not been updated for 17 months. Learn 2 read and stop drinking alcohol. Also said tier list says that GameMax commits review fraud.

>>102256340
>What size/model/brande SSD should I get for important files I don't want to lose.
Doesn't matter lol, making backups is more important than getting a good drive.

What's the current recommended gpu at $300 price point for 1080p gaming?

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>>102260215
>muh 12GB
>dies
Kek

>>102260303
>$75
GTX 1660 Super
>$100
RTX 2060 Super
>$200
6600(XT)
>$300
6700XT, 7600, 3060, 4060

>>102260339
Thanks

>6700XT, 7600, 3060, 4060
Well, which one? Do I just flip a coin?

>>102260360
personal preference
some people prefer amd, others nvidia. If you don't know choose nvidia if you don't use linux

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>>102260316
>different scenes
>different test settings
>fsr quality at 1440p in hogwarts
>dlss+++
FSR is useless garbage, you're not making this any better for yourself
DLSS is better than native in Hogwarts >>102259883 and FSR is far worse
The 4070 Ti is faster and looks better
And don't forget Radeon doesn't even have Frame Gen, and with a few tweaks the 4070 Ti can easily use RT + Frame Gen with better than native image quality

>>102259940
>>102260132
i found this solution because google showed me someone complaining about discord hardware acceleration crashing NVIDIA cards
nvidia sois are so fucking retarded

>>102260007
discord

Try not to be a dishonest shill challenge [IMPOSSIBLE]

>>102259992
1440p60 should be doable

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>>102260397
> I was trying to be nice to Radeon, but here's what happens when foliage shows up on screen
> >but different scenes
KEK
You lost
> >fsr quality at 1440p in hogwarts
4070ti has to use DLSS Frame Gen to achieve 35-43 FPS and it makes image quality even worse compared to normal upscaling

>>102260437
not a problem on nvidia just AMD

>Looking at video of 1660 2060 3060 comparison
>all within 10-15fps of each other

what the hell

opinion on Antec C5? it has a lot of fans

>>102260487
not a problem on AMD, now that discord hardware accel is off i literally have a firefox hardware accel twitch stream on my second monitor 24/7 while i game with zero problems
which i was only able to solve because nvidia also has this problem with discord
you fucking retard

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>>102260479
>4070ti has to use DLSS Frame Gen to achieve 35-43 FPS
Not according to reputable benchmarkers, just your cherrypicks
https://youtu.be/WU9bbHfJ65Q?si=W7NSPJ8HdcjhaMTu&t=1195
Here's the video where you pulled your cherrypick from, the 4070 Ti with RT Ultra and DLSS Quality, which might I remind you is better than native and far better than FSR. Frame Gen is also great if there isn't anything extremely fast moving on screen, and even then the alternation between perfect frames and generated frames gives the impression of smoothness without a decrease in quality.

So why didn't you pair the 7900 GRE vs 4070 Ti with like for like settings? They were available in your video

I've got to hit the gym, I'll shit on you more later. I expect some more lies and cope in the meantime

>>102260607
try with discord open in a browser tab instead of the bloatware "app"

>>102259921
>>102260132
nvidia gave me more problems than ever

>>102259909
all 12gb cards from nvidia are a scam and the 4070 ti super is a bigger scam. get the 7900gre. you literally cant read specs? 256 bit bus >>> 192 bit bus

Reminder that Nvidia marketing is required to respond to every single post criticizing their product, usually in a negative tone
Here is something you should forward to the head of your department assuming you aren't an outsourced expendable jeet who does it for 1c per post:
Now that you have begun making most of your money from AI trend chasing retards you can finally start to actually listen to feedback and stop with the scummy business practices as they don't earn top dollar anymore and you wouldn't have to shill non stop to prevent potential customers from buying the competitor's products that are already inferior in most regards and have a much smaller consumer market share anyway

>>102259909
NGL you sound clueless and you are easily influenced by scams.

Did anyone remember all that spam on this general a while back about this general?

https://desuarchive.org/g/search/text/pcbg%20/start/2023-11-21/end/2023-11-24/

it was actually confirmed to be nvidia

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-09-03/nvidia-gets-doj-subpoena-in-escalating-antitrust-investigation

>>102260739
Remember all the deleted pro Nvidia bot posts? People building there PCs there fell for it
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/97466452/#97472354

would 3700x to 5700x3d be a worth upgrade for competitive gaming?

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>>102260636
>FG disabled
KEK, are you scared? enable FG
With FG 4070ti can’t beat 7900gre at 1440p with RT On as shown in the video:
https://youtu.be/WU9bbHfJ65Q?feature=shared&t=1327
You completely lost this one
>I’ll run away
Okay, I accept your defeat

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>cool and shiny dlss tech made by Nvidia
>But you can't use it on lower end cards or you'll run into vram issues
Wat

>>102260811
yes
it's like going from haswell to alder lake

>>102260677
I'll check some 7900gre/4070 super comparisons. Thanks for your suggestion.
>>102260708
Thanks for nothing

>>102260811
x3d ryzens are godlike
just make sure to get your bios update from your mobo manufacturer and your chipset driver update from AMD and NOT your mobo manufacturer because that shit is always out of date

what case should I get for ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III? Antec C5 looks kinf of sweet but from what I see its seems too small for it
or should i just go with air coolling?

>>102260961
you don't really need water if you don't have a 16 core cpu

>>102260853
its even more funny when people praise DLSS as a selling point or "this is the reason I buy Nvidia or AMD" when it was literally made by Nvidia as a cost cutting measure to ship GPUs with lower vram capacity & (BIG IMPORTANT) vram bandwidth.

>>102261002
im going with 7950x3d

>>102261029
i like arctic freezer 3. the fan on the block is great, i have to ziptie my own

>>102260607
AMD Radeon Retard trash
literally no advantages over Nvidia

All these years not a single god tier card

>>102257154
dual ccd x3d's are defunct products and should not be bought
9950x would be the only viable product if you aren't a brainlet
>>102255526
there are 1080p TN panels cost more than 4k 240hz oled, it's time to stop being poor
>>102254798
zesty ahh
>>102261029
refer to post above, defunct product

>>102260961
Bro air cooler is retarded, unless you are doing something light like web browsing, some coding, emulating old games/playing old games. ALF is pretty okay, but the pump is slow as shit, and fewer cases can accommodate it and fewer good mobos can accomodate it's xbux huege pump because it interferes with VRAM. If you want fish tank get o11d evo rgb, also get EK Lux pump, that shit completely mogs ALF, and you are not forced to use the dog shit contact frame, since hopefuly you have the Thermalgrizzly one

>>102261011
And then AMD copied it failed hard and had to give it away for free to get anyone to use it at all

>>102261081
>not a single god tier card
5870
6950
7970
Vega
6700XT

>>102261111
lol
lol
lol
LMAO
lol

>>102261135
enjoy your 3.5GB pussyboy

>>102261081
t. userbenchmark

>>102261081
>literally no advantages over Nvidia
except price
>inb4 links some unoptimized RT title that only 4090 can run at 60fps and only on 1080p

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NVIDIA 4060 Laptop grows over 1%

It will soon be the top GPU on steam

AMD APU is great

Radeon Retard trash is worthless

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I'm trying to install an NVME SSD on a B650 Aorus Elite AX, and what the FUCK is this thing? I can't find any information in how it works. All info I can find is about another similar design.

>>102261111
You missed out hawaii.

>>102261191
open

>>102261197
housefire

>>102261096
>AMD copied cuck cores
stupid cunt
also Nvidia has no L3 cache and exhausts their L2 cache too easily. This makes them horrible for long term use.

>>102261011
>>102260853
Its straight up disgusting people buy Nvidia gpus at all when they know they're getting scammed for inferior product and for what? So they can "game or do ai on windows" lmao linux is easily 30% faster than windows and nvidia sucks there compared to amd.

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Your web browser is slower by default because your GPU driver is not applying the browser optimizations

https://www.ghacks.net/2023/03/19/yandex-browsers-gpu-crashes-dropped-significantly-after-pretending-to-be-chrome/

>"The results surprised us a lot: for users with AMD video cards from the experimental group, the number of GPU process crashes decreased by 5.5 times, the memory consumption of the GPU process decreased by an average of 8%, and the opening of web pages in the browser and interface responsiveness also slightly accelerated".
>This also affects Nvidia as well https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues/23254

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>>102261211
leatherman will never forgive himself for making the 1080ti so good so he is making sure that mistake is never repeated

>>102261232
these are normalfags
they got the vaccine they log into the account they eat the hydrogenated seed oil

>budget: around $1k
>country: US
>uses: gaming, art, some ai
suggestions?

Upgrading my build from 2015 (GTX 980, i5 4690k). Looking at an AMD Ryzen 7 5800X and RTX 3060. Thoughts, rate, hate? Also will need a new mobo. Suggestions on one?

kek AMD cultist samefagging schizo episode again

>>102261301
7600, b650, air cooling, gold psu, cheap case, 1-2tb nvme, how much money is left over for gpu

>>102261321
>not getting an x3D
cmon

>>102261085
>ek
>buying from a soon to be dead company

>>102261326
is it schizo when most of these things are windows issues

>>102261321
do not buy am4 unless you can only afford 5600 cpu
7600 slaps the shit out of 5800x and it's cheaper.

>>102261232
90% of Nvida GPUs are on Linux lol

>>102261403
Correction: 90% of Datacenter (Not consumer grade) Nvidia GPUs are running a specialized version of Linux suited for their enterprise.

Your RTX lineup is fucked on linux.

Ryzen 7 5700x or Core i5 12600kf? They're about the same price right now on Amazon US. From the benchmarks I've read the i5 is better and you can upgrade it down the line but it also consumes twice the electricity

>>102261417
12600kf

>>102261379
Fully blessed am4 (5800x3d, b450 tomahawk, 32ram 3700mhz) or cheap am5(7700x, gigabyte b620, 16gb)?

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>>102254610

i'm sort of a techlet and my buddy told me that my system is bottlenecked because i'm using a 1080p monitor.

>cpu
amd ryzen 5 5600x
>gpu
nvidia geforce 3060ti
>ram
dual channel 16gb 2666mhz i forgor the brand
>mobo
msi b550a pro
>monitor
sceptre 1080p 165hz
>budget 200$ at this very moment (i start working again soon so this is gonna change to like around 500 when i do)

>>102261416
It's all the same drivers
"AMD is good on Linux" has always been a tard take as in-tree drivers allow them to run their autismo distros, has nothing in relation to actual driver quality.
Geohot is is way more intimate with GNU/Linux than most trashed AMD quite thoroughly

My 6700 xt just died on me a week after warranty ended and I obviously want to move back to geforce.
Should I get a 4060, 4060ti, or go for a 4070 super?

>>102261085
i dont know bro ek costs like 75$ more in my country and from the benchmarks it seems like it barerly bettert than artic

>>102261425
7700 non x on b650 with driver mosfets
>>102261470
there's nothing wrong with your pc

>>102261512
4070super

>>102261470
>my system is bottlenecked because i'm using a 1080p monitor.
your bro is a retard that's not how bottlenecking works
just to be safe, go into your bios and make sure your memory's XMP profile is enabled, and check the manual to make sure the sticks are in the right pair of slots (usually first+third or second+fourth)
also check your windows display settings (settings, system, display, advanced display settings) to make sure your monitor is actually running at 165hz and not 60
your specs are fine

>>102261470
It may be bottlenecked by your ram (you could get 16 GB 3200mhz and notice gains with your ryzen) but definitely not your monitor

Ngreedia just werks but I don't wanna pay 600 for a 4070 when some years back you could get a 80 for that same amount of money

>>102261085
okay what do you think about
Thermalright am5 contact frame
EK-Nucleus AIO CR360 Dark
inside Montech AIR 903 Max?

>>102261470
your monitor is fine for a 3060ti

>>102254610
My shitty BenQ monitor I got in 2010 that I overclocked to 80HZ finally shat the bed.
Bought a Dell G2724D, how fucked am I? I don't care about HDR, I just know it'll be an upgrade and it was £80 off.

>>102261762
seems like a good screen

Corsair RM850x SHIFT y/n?

>>102258750
I did this a hundred times in really shitty ways
All you have to be mindful of is to cover the entire die with paste, not just use a dot. Spread it thin.

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>>102261762
>Bought a Dell G2724D, how fucked am I?
It's a good buy given the budget, hence why it is in the OP. The next thing worth spending money on would be a 400 gbp 4K monitor.

>>102261348
It's an item from their branch, he's not buying their fuckign stock.

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>>102261518
Nucleus is giga dabbing on 420 versio, the 360 one you are getting is going to be few degrees more. Again it's not that serious, but its 75 eurodollars for the next 4-5 years

>>102261641
It's kino, honestly I would go for Lianli 216

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Budget: $3700 USD
Country: USA

Looking for a PC capable of high end AutoCAD/Revit/Civil 3D rendering, as well as AI projects like flux/llms. Aesthetically I prefer white pc components, or wood pattern.

I only need the desktop, I own my preferred monitor and peripherals.

I havent had to build a PC since around 2018 so I am not up to snuff on what brands or companies to use these days.

>>102260739
>>102260760
All of this was obviously pro AMD spam

>>102260739
>>102260760
wasn't this the autist that wanted the threadripper in the OP?