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>>102278291
Best OP is back. YAY!

>>102278312
By all means, cheap out and have broken monitors. Thanks.

>>102278330
It's a stick of fucking aluminum on a swivel, it shouldn't cost more than 60.

>>102278342
If you can spend $60 you can spend $80-90.

>>102278351
80-90 isn't almost 200

>>102278291
OP stuck in 2019 back again

>>102278342
honest to god i just got the cheapest off amazon for dual monitor, it cost me like 60€ and ive had them for 5 or 6 years now with no issue

what's the use case for a 7900xt?

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can /g/ beat my score?

>>102278403
nice cpu poorfag lmao

>>102278401
linux gaming machine

>>102278449
>BIS without needing to build a whole new system
>no score
nice try brokie

>>102278403
no8wytx

>want to take the plunge into 4k
>but don't want to deal with the heat that is generated by equipment that runs 4k 60+ fps

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>>102278560
GPU makers don't want you to learn this secret trick and smooth brains here will greentext and make retarded uninformed opinions about it.

why were there two threads?

My current rig is un-upgradeable dogwater from 10 years ago. Which option should I go for?
1) Get 7800x3d + 4080 super now, get 5090 when it comes out (or 4090 if I can't get it) and sell 4080
2) Get 7800x3d + 4090 now, call it a day
3) Don't buy anything for now, wait for 9950x3d and 5090 release in Jan and get them
4) Same as 3) but I go with the 4090 after 5090's release makes its price drop (if it does...)

>>102278775
Double shilling power hour.

>>102278795
If you are going all-in, 3 is the best option (though i'd replace the 9950x3d with the 9800x3d).

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OK, system is a year and a half old and has been running fine until the 129 bios patch.
13700K
4080 Super
32gb DDR5 @ 5600MT/s
Asus Z790-A mobo
EVGA 850 Gold PSU
360mm AIO

Always ran cool, stable, no glitches at all. I had the P-cores at 5.6ghz and the E-cores at 4.4ghz

Now, no matter what I do, this is what I get- 5.3ghz on 3 cores and the rest all at 3.4ghz max. Any thoughts? Is the CPU starting to crap out on me? I tried overclocking with and without intel limits enforced, tried SVID Behavior auto and typical, and Intel adaptive boost auto and disabled. No change I make to settings makes any difference. Thoughts?
Thanks.

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rate
american price: 1470

>>102278857
the bios update changed how boosting works. if you dont like it then revert.

>>102278910
It's not even boosting to the factory stock 5.4ghz. That's what made me wonder if the CPU is starting to decay. I will consider rolling it back, I mean wth, 3.6 years left under warranty, but if that's Intels answer, it's shit. I had a huge performance hit in productivity shit like AI noise reduction in Adobe software. I kinda liked that extra punch from overclocking.

>>102278291
>budget: i5 13500
what price range would a completed office/multimedia build with that CPU look like (excluding monitor)?

>>102279037
Find out here:
https://pcpartpicker.com/

>>102279067
thanks anon. Are these builds "verified" in any way or can someone just throw random components together that won't compliment each other?

>>102278747
Can't stand that unwashed cunt. Completely delusional too, thinks FSR is the best upscaler that looks better than everything else. FSR is great for it's compatibility but it's objectively the worst upscaler currently. Even TSR beats it in a lot of scenarios.

difference between 7800x3d and 7900/7950?

My system is Ryzen 5700X and a GeForce 4070, along with a decent PSU and case. I game at 2K resolution @ 144Hz

I have $1000 available for an upgrade. What should I invest in?

>>102278897
The price is fine, I suppose, but I wouldn't really want either of those components in isolation. The 7950X3D is a solution in search of a problem and the XTX a $1000 card with $600 RT perf (and if you don't want RT just buy a GRE).

>>102278795
You have waited for 10 years. Don't wait further and just get 7800x3d + 4080 super. Just add 360mm AIO for the CPU. That combo will keep you going for another 10 years.

>>102279037
Depends how cheap you want it. Maybe around $450 if you cut it to the bone but you could easily spend $700, maybe more, if you want some "luxuries". Nice case, big storage, good cooling, etc.

>>102279181
you don't need to upgrade from this whatsoever
you can try and see if you can find a cheap 5700x3d/5800x3d if you feel like you need it
otherwise if you wanna consoom there could be sidegrades like cooling, more storage, 32gb of decent ram if you're still running 16gb, etc
t. extremely similar system with a 5700X and 7800XT

>>102279181
Your 401k.

>>102279181
Nothing. 5070+ if it turns out to be revolutionary (it won't)

>>102279276
>>102279292

Exactly what i thought. But I have an urge to consoom, and it becomes too overwhelming...

>>102279181
You already have a 4070 which yeah is struggling in certain RT scenarios but still fine, nothing $1000 can get you is worth it. Wait for 5000 series and new X3D chips or you'll regret it.

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I want to upgrade to a 240hz OLED maybe later this year but am not sure my hardware is good enough for it.
>12700K
>32gb DDR4 3600mhz
>RTX 3080
Do I need a better CPU if I want a smoother experience, with better 1% lows and such? Or is my CPU decent enough and I should be aiming for a 4080 instead?

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Why can't they put RT cores on a separate card for second PCIe just like years ago Physx had? This way you could just opt out of spending on memetech.

My current build (originally built in 2022):

Motherboard: Asrock B650E PG Riptide ATX
RAM: 32GB DDR5
CPU: Ryzen 7950X
GPU: RTX 2070 Super
PSU: 800W Gold ATX 3.0

I've been wanting to upgrade the GPU. In 2022 /pcbg/ said waitfagging was the smart play because the prices were too high and Ada was coming out. Well two years since Ada released, the prices for 4090s are still higher than ever, and even used Ampere cards are still expensive (not that I'm interested in getting one now).

What is the correct play here? Main use-case is productivity, especially Unreal Engine, Blender, Premiere and other 3D software.

I've noticed some 4080 Cards sometimes going on sale in my country at ok prices, although I'd obviously prefer a Super variant.

>>102279405
>2022 /pcbg/ said waitfagging was the smart play
waitfagging is never ever the smart thing to do in general. You're gonna be waiting all your life while shit keeps happening around you.
if you have money to burn and want better hardware, make an informed decision and buy it.

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>>102278795
5) 9800X3D if it's better than the 7800X3D and the 5080/5090
Also OLED monitor

>>102278560
Undervolting and DLSS will help a lot
You can run 4K (e.g., DLSS Performance mode) at 150W easily
4K DLSS Perf (definitely Balanced) ~= 1440p DLAA in terms of image quality, and 4K will usually be faster
https://imgsli.com/Mjk0NTkz

>>102279037
You don't need that for an office/multimedia build

>>102278897
Graphics card is trash for its price

Three monitor questions.
I am only for 1440p monitors.
1.
My current model is Samsung Odyssey LC27G75.
As far display is fine, it's day to use features are fucking painful.
- can't turn off led diode
- switching between screen is too slow
- especially when given PC manage to shut down which makes to "turn on" pc screen
- displayport sleep messes up multiwindow as it "disconnects"
- not enough ports
Did I messed two years ago?

2.
Regarding ports. My huge ass working/gaming desktop involves many devices and consoles. I would rather avoid using external HDMI switches.
If I would go for new monitor I would have a good use case of 5 inputs, 6 tops, but there are hardly any with more than 4 inputs.
Then there is USB-C but I have hardly any idea about its capabilities.
Are there such models existent or those are expensive for workstations class?

3.
Finally, there is apparently a DP feature that allows me to do following setup:
PC <-- DP --> Monitor #1 < -- DP --> Monitor #2
that sounds neat option as it would save me a lot of cabling. Though, I have no clue how viable are they.
Would then PC <-- HDMI --> Monitor #1 < -- DP --> Monitor #2 work?

>>102279382
12700k is a pretty capable cpu still so the gpu should be more of the focus for any upgrade.

(pasting from last thread, didn't notice we'd switched)

>>102275226
Thanks for the input! What's the problem with Noctua? Or are you saying that a cheaper option will already make my computer silent?

>>102276523
I'd like to have as little upgrading to do over the next ten years, if I only have to upgrade the graphics card and maybe add some ram that's fine.

>>102275119
Thanks! What's the matter with the x2 link slot? I don't know enough to understand if that's bad or what.

>>102278291
>>Avoid iGPU-less CPUs
why?

if i upgrade my gpu, cpu, mobo and psu, can i wait on the ram? (16gb)

>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2cDf6D
I mainly play vidya but also do a bit of programming. Nothing fancy, just some mobile apps and the like.
I have no idea about hardware so I've just picked whatever sounded good from some of those prebuilt PC's. I mainly need help choosing between the GPU's and finding a good PSU. I have no idea of what makes a good PSU and I definitely don't want to make any mistakes with it.
For the case I just picked the first one I found that didn't give any warnings since the one I already have seems to be too small.
I plan to keep my 1080p monitor since playing at higher resolutions isn't a priority of mine and that way I can save some money. According to the OP, I'm overshooting with my choice of GPU's for 1080p gaming, but I want something to stop worrying about being able to run games (mainly Monster Hunter Wilds) while also knowing I won't have to spend much more money in the future if I ever decide to upgrade my monitor.
Any comment on the build is more than welcomed,. Thanks in advance, anons.

>>102279767
What sort of upgrade are you doing where a full rebuild is being done but ram is being kept? The intel chips that support both ddr4 and ddr5 benefit a lot from the bandwidth of ddr5. 16gb capacity likely rules out going from consumer grade gear to the HEDT lineup as MOAR RAM is often one of the big features of those platforms.

>>102279767
Don't buy a DDR4 motherboard in 2024 unless you are buying ultra low-end. You'll be stuck with DDR4 till the next upgrade. Memory is the cheapest component of the computer, why wait on the ram? It's like $115 for a decent kit of DDR5.

niggers.

>>102279745
If you have to troubleshoot a GPU the fuck are you going to use if you don't have a spare?
If you have a working spare, good, if not then you're shit out of luck. CPUs with iGPU are usually only $20-$30 extra. A cheap GPU to troubleshoot a problem can cost you $200+

>>102279170
With FSR 3.1 it looks no different than TSR on a 4k screen to me. But if its FSR 2 or 1 then yeah its terrible.

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>>102279892
>have to troubleshoot
skill issue. all my builds have 0 problem and work flawlessly.

>>102279385
>opt out of spending
Cool it with the antisemitism

>>102279554
>so the gpu should be more of the focus for any upgrade.
Thanks. I was thinking of getting a 4080 or 4080 Super to replace my 3080FE but I'm not paying 1000€ for a GPU

>>102279177
You don't have to tard wrangle the windows schedule with the 7800x3d

>>102279966
Only reasonable upgrade over 3080 would be a 5080 when it launches in few month
but for that you would want to pair it with 9800x3d

>>102279916
Yeah, TSR is pretty close to FSR but claiming FSR is the best visually of all the upscalers is some shill behavior. FSR is great, I used it on my 1080Ti before upgrading. It works and does the job. FSR only uses spatial upscaling, it's objectively worse.

>>102279382
>RTX 3080
It's still a very capable card, If you want a solid upgrade performance wise over this your only real options are 4080/79XTX/4090 but $$$

>>102280014
Sometimes you gotta make controversial statements to get people interested in your content, no matter if its true or false. Youtube is hustle culture all the way.

>>102279405
If you've been following the leaks then you'd know its a bad time to be a waitfag, AMD isn't releasing a high end card next gen which means Nvidia's free to charge as much as they like for the 5080/5090, and if the 5090 goes for >2K USD then the second hand market will likely remain inflated too.

>>102279544
>Would then PC <-- HDMI --> Monitor #1 < -- DP --> Monitor #2 work?
DisplayPort MST only works like this when the source is also using DisplayPort, I am using this and it works fine but you've gotta keep in mind there are some bandwidth limitations and DP1.4 only supports 3x1080p daisychained or 2x1440p.

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how do I remove the disc cage on the fractal design focus g case? Do I really need to get a saw and cut it off?

>>102280094
have you tried removing screws that hold it there

>>102280048
It's why Framechasers snorts coke before every video.

>>102280110
I don't think there is any screws I can unscrew to take it off all I am seeing are rivets

>>102280053
>If you've been following the leaks then you'd know its a bad time to be a waitfag, AMD isn't releasing a high end card next gen
I mean, does this even matter? AMD haven't been relevant in the GPU market outside of gaming since 2022. High prices of Nvidia cards are driven by AI production, and AMD are irrelevant for AI pipelines; they are not even competitive with 20-series Nvidia cards.

The great hope for the GPU market is still Intel, but looks like they're still a long way behind.

postan here just incase
>>102272736
They come with pads already on the heatsinks

>>102280155
The fuck? There are no rivets in that case. Post your case.

>>102280193
If you want to just play video games then yeah AMD's still relevant. For now. Believe it or not there are us that just shitpost on 4chan and play vidya with our computers and don't do much else with it.

>>102280193
>intel
kek

>>102280232
>AMD's still relevant
yeah, you just gotta wait till someone fixes your driver issues for the multitude of games that don't run on amd cpu/gpu

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>>102280193
>AMD haven't been relevant in the GPU market outside of gaming since 2022.
They're actually making money off Instinct cards

>>102280232
I just don't think AMD's choice to not release a high-end card next gen makes any difference to the prices of high-end Nvidia cards like the 5090. Cards like this clearly aren't targeting gamers anymore, it's all about the AI pipeline.

In my case, I want something that better drives my 3D production. AMD is simply not an option so I'm really hoping some kind of good deal comes up for a 4080 Super or maybe something next gen (lost hope for 4090/5090).

>>102280193
>The great hope for the GPU market is still Intel
If they don't rise in two generations, it's ogre.
>>102280261
>ai shit
Doesn't count

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>Doesn't count

>>102280252
I've actually been using AMD cards for 10 years now (270X > 390 > 5700XT > 6800XT > 7900XTX) and I don't recall having any major driver issues at all. This was after a negative experience with Nvidia's GTS 450 > GTX 560.

>>102280296
Show me the gameplay on ai cards, retard.

>>102279094
Generally, it disallows picking parts that do not work together and will give notifications if there's questions on fitting or working.

>>102280325
I like how you both didn't read the post you responded to AND moved the goalposts to be extra wrong. That takes true dedication.

>>102280322
Had one for Path of Exile when it first came out.
And recently the Kingdom Hearts games on steam.
Someone in the KH community had to make a patch to make it work on AMD cards.
SOMEONE FROM THE COMMUNITY.
Imagine that, devs don't bother patching a game and had someone else do it because they can't be bothered. Now imagine for all other games that has a small community and can't make a workaround themselves.

>>102280276
That's fair, I'm of the opinion if you want an upgrade/new part, can afford it then just do it. I'm not holding my breath in regards to the 5080 either with how much of a clusterfuck the current 4070, 4070 (GDDR6), 4070 Super, 4070 Ti, 4070 Ti Super line up is and this only happened because they already tried to fuck everyone by segmenting the 4080 at launch.

>>102280363
Post gameplay on ai cards.

>>102278837
>>102279521
Why is that, will 9800x3d vs 9950x3d be like 7800x3d vs 7950x3d?

Should I wait and see if the 4080 super drops in price? I want to build a good machine from scratch but the cost of it all is freaking me out

I also need a good modern monitor and have no idea what to get at all

>>102280447
yes the l3 cache is only going to be on 1 chip

>>102280413
You see it every time you see a game running with DLSS or Ray-Reconstruction. All that trickled down from their Ai sector.

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>>102280383
>only 8%
Im getting a feeling its using tsmc n4 not n3

What RAM and how much RAM should I get?

>>102280592
Depends upon your connection speed and how much bandwidth you have. Rule of thumb- download as much as you can.

>>102280592
use case? CPU?

>>102280613
>>102280618
I think I'm gonna get a 7800x3d but I'm not sure yet
also don't know what cooler to get for it, I'm not doing liquid meme shit

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>5x2 branch of the motherboard cable goes in the PSU just fine
>9x2 branch won't go in at all; it's like trying to plug it into a solid wall
>at most I can get it to go in a little in the corners, but I can't wiggle the rest in
WHY CAN'T ANYTHING JUST FUCKING WORK? HOW HARD CAN IT BE TO MAKE A CABLE THAT FITS WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO?

>>102280627
Just push it in. Stop being such a fucking pussy. Your motherboard isn't going to snap.

>>102280623
gaming? take two sticks of 16gig DDR5 6000 CL30.
for the brand you can look up your motherboard of choice chart of compatibility.

>>102279253
Honestly the thing holding me back from doing that is the 4080 super just can't juice out enough FPS on 4k - 10 years and over 3 grand later I don't want 1% lows of 50. I got a 4k 120hz monitor recently and want to make good use of it

>>102280623
>>102280659
*(best choice if you go with a 7800X3D i dunno about other CPUs)

>>102280663
To add, I just looked up 4k ray tracing benchmarks and it's even more dismal, 4080 super 1% low at something like 35 fps. And that's today, in a year or two 4k will probably become an unplayable resolution on it

>>102280654
Like I said, it's the other end of the cable. And there's nothing to push in; the pegs aren't going in the holes at all. None of them look bent or anything.

>>102280697
post a picture.

Looking at PCPartPicker, there's a dozen different 4080 Super cards from different brands, going from 1,000 to 1,500 bucks. What are brands to avoid / go for?

>>102276653
>A problem with your setup is that you only have PCIe 3.0, which can cause issues with the 4060.

Sorry but I'm not familiar with these, but when you say pcie3 slot do you mean the slot for an m.2ssd? Or the pcie x16 slot for the GPU? My Mobo is an MSI B550 pro-vdh wifi

RTX 5090

>>102280729
The GPU always goes in the x16 PCIe slot, m.2 slots are for connecting SSD storage primarily

>>102280722
Buy the cheapest triple fan card

>>102279177
Higher multicore, lower gaming performance

>>102279181
>invest
Unless you're making money from using your PC, your PC is not a wise investment

>>102279382
You should be getting a 4K OLED. It's the graphics card that's relatively weak, not the CPU. You can get the monitor now and upgrade GPU later with the RTX 50 series if you feel it's necessary.

>>102280729
The 5600G is a PCIe 3.0 chip
The 4060 is an x8 lane graphics card designed for PCIe 4.0, so having lower bandwidth on those eight lanes (combined with a smaller VRAM cache) can cause problems

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why doesnt sodimm ram need cooling, like full-sized ram? which almost always has at least a heatspreader?

>>102278291
Can anyone recommend me a portable cheap but good speakers i can put on my desk?

>>102278401
not a linux gaming machine cuz nvidia would be better for this

>>102280763
>5600g is a PCIe 3.0 chip
Ah I see, so changing my CPU to 5600 after getting a 4060 work?

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>>102280705

>>102278857
>jpg
retard

>>102280844
Now plug it in your motherboard. Show the picture of you actually trying to make it fit.

>>102280839
Not worth it. Just pick up a used 3060 Ti or a 3070, or an RTX 3060 if you're buying new

what will be the best 65W CPU 1 year from now.

what CPU will have the best iGPU 1 year from now

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My gpu and ram showed up today
Should I use the included dual 8 pin to 16 pin adapter or just get the proper cable for my psu which is directly to the 16 pin?

>>102280939
Generally you should go straight from the psu to the device without adapters if possible.

>>102280872
Aight thanks anon

>>102280870
>motherboard
For the third time, this is about the PSU end. I don't have a third hand to hold the flashlight with, so it's hard to get a good picture, but there isn't much to see. It's just like the port isn't there at all

>>102280957
alright, ill just order the cable
im surprised my old corsair psu is still supported by first party cables they still sell for it

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>>102280870
>>102281053
Forgot image, for what it's worth.

>>102280459
>4080 super drops in price
lol

>>102280459
>I also need a good modern monitor and have no idea what to get at all
well first you need to decide what it's used for

>>102280777
because ram cooling is a meme

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>>102279769
I just need some help choosing between these 3.

>>102280091
Should I ever consider DisplayPort MST hub? Sounds interesting and would make less hassle.
Besides I can't to find any specs telling max MST capabilities per DisplayPort version.

>>102281343
4070 super is definitely overkill for 1080p gaming

>>102281420
Keep coping, they said the same thing about the 3070

>>102280459
I use the amazon basic monitor arm and it just works.

5 more sleepies till my new pc is gonna be in my home

>>102281455
I cant find it on amazon.
It is the same as the ergotron single monitor arm.

>>102281074
Just plug it in. Damn, I don't know what's so hard about that.
If you can't then unplug everything and plug in the 18pin connector first. It's usually what people plug in first because of how annoying it is to plug.

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Sup guys,

Im searching for components and I wonder why everywhere I get told to take the AMD 7800 3D: I want to pair it with a 4070Ti super maybe.

BUT the bottleneck calculator says, there would be a 20% discrepancy...

So I was looking for the next best CPU. But after checking for a while I see the next best, the AMD ryzen 9 7900x3d costs the same but is a bit worse in tests then 7800x3d!?

Im confused. I just want a 0% Bottleneck and a futureproof and kinda power saving build.

Thx and much love

>>102281655
you sound retarded. go buy a prebuilt. because you're easily influenced by anything as long as it sounds positive.

>>102281420
I was doing 1080p gaming 20 years ago

>>102281074
theres something in one of the holes. you need to get it outm44hm

what cpu for a low profile itx build

>>102281724
9800x3d

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>>102281674
why you mad newfag? Check my dubs and suck´em.
>>102281655

Are you lost without prebuild warranty? Tell me more about your life.

I must inform you that im a 3 times selfbuild veteran, with over 1000 confirmed kills (roblox) also google ad hominem and thx for the bump.

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>>102281777
>>102281655

guys help I cant keep pumping out these numbers.

pic related it´s me fisting
>>102281674


this is my maybe built.
cheers.

>>102281811
>>102281777
yes

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>>102281850
Bruh I got 2 dubs and 1 trip.
You better respect me now, and give me some answers. little pleb newb

>>102281730
thats actually what i was thinking. or a 9700x3d if they happen to release one.

Why is the 7700xt the only 7000 series gpu to not have 16gb of vram?

>>102281777
>>102281655
>>102281887
>generic shitty anime gif
>facebook level reaction images
You using a bottleneck calculator is like admitting you are retarded. I agree with >>102281674 buy a prebuilt.

will there be a low profile radeon 7000

>>102281655
7800x3D is the best gaming CPU right now. It's future proof and better than the 7900x3D for gaming. The most you could do is wait until Q1 25 for Intel and AMD to release newer models

>>102282070
there should be because they weren't able to sell 70W Navi33 in laptops like they wanted but AMD are fucking retarded when it comes to segmenting.

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>>102282014
>>102281674

damn you tryhards done acting tough online?
you done, sucking each other off?

How much of fucking retardinhos can you be on a fucking friday night on a fucking pc help thread.

Ya´ll the biggest chud bait gobblers ive ever read, cope harder it´s funny. I also don´t wonder why you dont unterstand the turtles haha. The fact that you tell people to buy prebuild just show how much of fucking childish hardbreathing, pale, toxic, neckbeards you are.

Also anime is based, and you both probably watched more then I ever did.

>>102282148
thx, just basically wondering why it has more Ghz, costs the same and performs worse. Researched just a bit til now, but I didn´t find the reason jet.

>>102282258
It's not as simple as just clock speed, and figuring everything out isn't worth your time. Just look at the benchmarks

am I going to be happy with 7900xtx + 7950x3d?

>>102282465
what do you intend to do with it?

>>102282510
AI porn

>>102282510
compile linux kernels and play games

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>>102278291
How to minimize dust? I alive in an arid, dusty place, the case does have front intake filters (deep cool CH560) but it's not particularly effective. I see some dust on vram coolers and on top of my case (not blasted by fans, probably landed there).

>>102282465
No, too expensive

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>>102278795
i just finished building my new pc last night. went with option 1
ill be checking out the 5090 when it releases but since im only at 1440p ill probably end up sticking with what i have unless its massively better

>>102282610
humidifier or other room-scale air purifier could work
if there's dust in your hvac or on ceiling fan blades you should clean them

>>102282722
You forgot to enable expo my dear

>>102282733
still sorting things out before i turn it on

>>102282610
positive pressure
how many intake an exhaust fans do you have

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>>102282724
No air system, just a door and window. We do not use AC units here.

>>102282749
3x140mm taking air in, 120mm exhaust, 2x120mm blowing air from top, aka a 240mm AIO. There's also a opening under the tempered glass panel. This is quite negative, I'm assuming?

>>102282793
get an air purifier for the room your computer is in

>>102282849
You know what, I'll just tape a hepa filter to front and see what it does.

>>102280750
Not a good idea.
More to a card than its fans

>>102282793
speed up the intake fans and slow down the exhaust fans.
alternately, turn your rear exhaust into an intake.

ensure all intake fans have a filter.

>>102282907
>I'll just tape a hepa filter to front
if youre negative pressure, its sucking dust in from every crevice. gotta go positive pressure if you want to avoid dust

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>neighbor picks up packages from my front door as a courtesy
>package never stolen before
>PSU inside
>wont answer phone or door
ONE THING, I DON'T KNOW. I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO BUILDING MY PC LATE AT NIGHT. AGHHHHH FUCK ME. WHY DO THEY HAVE TO BE SO NICE.

>>102283010
I'll tape out the glass pane side vents and that'll make it mildly positive. I'll also make the exhaust fan intake and still go with hepa. I'll post results in few weeks.

>>102283060
use another psu and put the new one in tomorrow

>>102283067
It's for a 4090 and my current PSU is 650W.

>>102283074
if its a 7800X3D you're good, if its Intel, LOL

>>102283074
just don't run it at full load without uv+pl
focus on benching your cpu and tweaking your timings

>>102283074
just downclock the gpu with msi afterburner

>>102283074
Imagine being an nvidiot and a moron who can't build a proper package box. Why are you like this? Go to Lowe's and get some 2x4s and some OSB and some paint and make an internal Z shaped box. Get a latch and some hinges for the bottom. Why the fuck are you so useless at basic life?

>>102282610
used pantyhose are great dust filters.

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>>102281655
>the bottleneck calculator

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>>102282610
clean your room

>>102282722
>TPM
it glows

>>102283209
That ribbon...
Does jordan have aids?

>>102283060
He's a good neighbor I'm sure and he's got an oscilliscope and is testing it thoroughly for you right now. Just pick it up and his report in the morning.

>>102283215
easy to turn off in bios

After owning a 14700K for eight months without stability issues I have to say this processor is useless. I always tried defending it for it's multicore performance but anytime it hits anything more than the P cores it balloons close to 300w. What's the point? I always bought the latest i7 whenever doing a new build but I think for the first time in 15 years ill go AMD. I miss my 8700K at this point. I couldn't imagine being a person dealing with stability issues and RMAs for this garbage.

>>102283215
what is tpm? if its bad enough i might disable it in the bios

>>102283161
Wow, exactly what a single guy has lying around in his house.

>>102283209
Impossible. the outside world is unclean.

>>102283221
You mean the left shoulder? It's a british war hero poppy flower.

>>102283287
Your mother may have some pantyhose laying around she hasn't worn in ages.

Alternatively go buy some. They're actually cheaper than dust filters branded for PCs.

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got a 3070ti
usually build a new pc every 3 years.
worth waiting for the 50 series? is the 7800X3D still going to be the cpu to get when the new series of cards come out, or am I just asking pointless questions?

cheers,

>>102283382
9800X3D will likely be out by the time 5000 series launches. Whether it will be drastically more performant or not is yet to be seen. Likely 7800X3D will still be a good purchase either way if it drops in price more.

>>102283416
will 9800x3d be like the 9700x in that it defaults to 65W but has an officially supported 105W option?

>>102283581
it doesn't matter for gaming anyway, you will barely ever use 60% of it

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>>102282610
you can't, fine dust will accumulate anyway, you can only minimize it a little
what you want is airflow case, so air never stands still, I've seen less dust in my torrent than any previous case I owned, but it's still there
have to clean it yearly, if dust too much every 6 months

>>102283382
>worth waiting for the 50 series?
yes

>is the 7800X3D still going to be the cpu to get when the new series of cards come out
that's a complicated question but lets just say that you probably won't end up buying it

>>102283660
what do we know about arrow lake? I mean, did they change anything major?

>>102283382
I would keep the RTX 3070ti until GTA 6 is released. That game will make it worth upgrading the whole computer

>>102283701
what if it sucks like gta 5

I have one very nice Acer Predator 32" 1440p 170hz monitor with G-Sync

I need a second screen but don't need it to be this good. If i buy a cheaper screen, say a 24" or 27" 1080p screen with a refresh rate of 100hz, will that prevent me from having 170hz on my main screen?

>>102283713
it's going to be like RDR2, depends if you liked all little RDR mechanics or not

>>102283581
it wouldnt make sense for them to gimp their best gaymen cpu but hey, it's amd so who knows

>>102283701
yeah, 3070Ti will be fine till then, if it was a 3060Ti I'd consider a ASAP upgrade.

>>102283685
honestly, i haven't really kept up with the news. iirc its going to be on a tsmc node? maybe?
anyway, for you, it doesn't matter. given how close all those releases are, you're gonna waitfag for 50series, and you're gonna waitfag for 9800x3d and arrowlake.
and when all the shit is out and we have benchmarks and everything, come back here and ask again.

Day 2 of PTM7950 on a CPU, 39C' idle. Hah!

>>102283619
im asking cuz i want to use it in a small case with a small cooler.
would be nice if i could use it at stock settings

>>102283759
why is it so hot? I thought it was good

>>102283723
>with a refresh rate of 100hz, will that prevent me from having 170hz on my main screen?
on linux using xorg, yes. otherwise, i think mixed refresh works

>>102283734
i thought the 3D cache chips generally ran lower wattages, but i guess not always

>>102283773
it melts at 45C, 39C in a solid state is amazing used to be 45C' idle on 7700x

>>102283822
Real idle or windows "idle"

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Any guesses how this thing assigns PCIe lanes with all three x16 slots and one m.2 filled?

Gigabyte B550 AORUS ELITE AX V2
Looking at a 5600X if that makes a difference.

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>>102283897

>>102283851
windows idle. 2% load

>>102283762
ITX case? you shouldn't. single tower cooler? should be fine for gaming

>>102283917
That's fucked up.

>>102283940
my fans spin at 400rpm, its silent as a sleeping mouse

>>102283897
How will you fill all 3 PCIe lanes? The GPU alone will take up two

>>102283951
windows stealing your resources. 2% idle

Guys, just woke up from a 2 year coma, is the 6600 still the undisputed GOAT for poorfags?

>>102283784
7800x3d has a 120W tdp but its 1.15v vid cap makes it so that it never gets power limited
5800x3d also has a high stock tdp of 105w

>>102283981
tdp≠power

>>102283976
rx6600 is still a beast today. novidya still doesnt have an answer to it
6600k, not so much

>>102283970
I shall survive that 1.6w power draw somehow.

>>102283989
its loosely related
PPT is still to 1.25x of TDP. if they limit the 9800x3d to 65W tdp, it'd have a PPT of 88W which will gimp it in avx512 and shader compilation which uses avx2

>>102284004
>still to
set to*

>>102284004
Good. I have to throw big voltage at my zen3 to make it avx stable

>>102278291
What's wrong with 970 evo plus if I bought it in 2019 and it's my current drive?

>>102283916
>3.0 x2
>3.0 x1
Jesus fucking Christ. Is there a list of motherboards that aren't completely fucked somewhere? For some reason only aliexpress chinkshit actually advertises the PCIe speeds and for everything else you have to dig through the documentation. Reviewers never seem to talk about it either.

>>102284055
just go to the website and click on specs, it's not complicated

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Thoughts? I'll top it off with an Rx 6600 once I get the money and my hopes are that this setup will be more than capable of running everything on 1080p 60fps at high or medium graphics. It's my first gaming PC btw so any suggestions are fine by me

>>102284055
What do you mean? Most people are only going to use their PCIe lanes to connect their GPU, and all modern mobos have a 4.0 x16 for that purpose. Not even the 4090 saturates a 4.0 x16

>>102278291
12700k and 7600x for the same price which would you guys get?

>>102284088
7600 non X or 7700 non x

>>102284062
>Just go and check every single motherboard in existence individually
No.

>>102284073
Even a GTX 260 will saturate 3.0 x1 = 1.1 x4

>>102284118
>Just go and check every single motherboard in existence individually
You only have to check the boards that you are interested in purchasing

>>102284118
GPU lanes and storage lanes are separate.

>>102284066
>full hard
My sides

I have this old 1920x1200 monitor. It's TN with 60fps and only DVI input

If I got an adapter to plug it into my computer, would it cause issues for my main monitors 170hz sync refresh rate?

I'm just using it to get a sense of size right now. There are 24"", 25", and 27" monitors I am looking at which are all 100hz with adaptive sync

>>102284129
I'm only interested in purchasing one that isn't fucked, so it would be nice if there was a list of fucked motherboards I could ignore or unfucked ones I could look at.

>>102284131
What are you even trying to say? The bottom x16 slot on >>102283897 runs at 3.0 x1. That is insufficient for my purposes.

>>102284157
>That is insufficient for my purposes.
like what? you didn't specify. it's fine for filling all storage slots.

>>102284156
jsut try it, it won't blow up anything. dual monitors is a mystery set up it may or may not work out of the box rnadomly

>>102284157
am4 cpus have 24 lanes
16 for the gpu, 4 for storage and 4 for the chipset
x570 can give you extra lanes but the cpu connect is still x4 (correct me if i'm wrong)

>>102284169
It's getting a 3090 and two P40s. The P40s won't need a ton of bandwidth but I'm looking for at least 1.1 x8 for both and preferably x16, CPU or chipset root doesn't matter. For the 3090 I want at least 2.0 x16.

>>102284052
there are noobs who are still buying it now just because its Samsung when there's cheaper and better drives available.

>>102284066
well you prob want to go 32gb ddr5 ram for the chrome tabs
get 2tb nvme ssd since it'll fill up quick with modern media sizes and they're cheap
7600 without strong igpu (it has weak one) would be much better when you have the discrete gpu

>>102284196
I'd be fine with PCIe 4.0 x4/x4/x4, that's the equivalent of PCIe 2.0 x16 for all three slots. It's 8 times the bandwidth that they put on the bottom slot of that piece of shit.

Can a better PSU actually help with coil whine? My RX 6800 XT whines louder than the fans at high framerates.

>>102284234
Sometimes. You really shouldn't be running high end cards with bad power supplies.

Monitor on the left is a very old 16:10 monitor with only dvi in. It is 24"

If I got a similar sized cheap monitor, I can put it on this monitor stand and put it in vertical... which setup is best?

Right now it's for movies and YouTube, but soon it will be for study

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>>102284259
Thoughts?

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>>102284231
x570 aorus pro should do the needful

>>102284274
i definitely prefer portrait in my setup
but for me, its a 32in and a 27in secondary, and having them in landscape made it all FAR too wide. for you, it might be different.

>>102283658
I was under the impression that Ch560 was an airflow case.

>>102284157
Yes you're supposed to connect the GPU to the mobo's 4.0 x16 PCIe expansion slot. It literally says so in the specs >>102283916
What are you confused about? Are you trying to connect two GPUs?

>>102284239
If I'm reading this correctly, it only has two x16 slots and two x1 slots. I need three x16s with the proper spacing (3,2).

>>102284305
that post was mistaken I deleted it and made a new post

>>102284305
What in the world for? That's a niche use, you'll need a special board for it

>>102284316
They already explained why. The use case is valid.

>>102284321
Where? He mentioned a GTX 260 saturating a 3.0 x1 so I'm assuming he wants to hook up multiple GPUs. I have a feeling his use case is going to be one where that setup doesn't do shit

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>>102283658
that's cute but I'd worry he'd chew on the pcb because of the sweetness of the lead

>>102284256
I'm using an EVGA SuperNOVA 850 G+, I didn't think it was that bad.

>>102284371
Is good if it's not over 10 years old
have you undervolted the card sometimes different voltage changes the oscillation of the copper spirals

>>102284231
>I'd be fine with PCIe 4.0 x4/x4/x4
And what GPU will you use with an x4 slot?

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Oh no bros... I though our 16 GB cards were safe at 1080p?!???????????

>>102284450
total poorfag annihilation

>>102284450
this just goes to show how dlss only exists for devs to meet publisher deadlines and forego optimization

bet this crap just looks like cod4 with enb like every other cod since 2007 lmfao

>>102284234
>Can a better PSU actually help with coil whine?
not going to help in 90% of cases, undervolt the card, that's more likely to help

>>102284294
It is, maybe you didn't see what the actually dusty case looks like. I've seen dust bunnies get stuck in a CPU cooler preventing the flow in my old one.

>>102284483
nobody reads the OP so who cares, and mass replier is too shizo for anyone half smart to listen to, he is not coming on Sundays anyway

>>102284401
I haven't, I'll give that a try.

>>102284472
it looks alright form the trailers, thing is, DLSS asks for VRAM and stop working propely when you run out of it, clever Nvidia plan to sell you new generation, they always give you just enough VRAM to last one generation

>>102284493
I kneejerked and deleted until I saw they half-assed put the 7700/7800xt in there as an afterthought.

>>102278897
good goyim

>>102284285
Thanks, couldn't find one of these but it seems X570 is the key. Found an Asus that will do what I need.

>>102284443
Obviously I'm talking about electrical routing there, I've already stated that three x16s was a requirement for me.

>>102284347
>>102284208

>>102284493
I live an that empty space in between your ears
Rent free

>>102284514
Wrong

>>102284687
Mind sharing the model name of the Asus?

>>102284687
No am4 or am5 can do more than one 16x or 2 8x lanes for GPUs, for 3 GPUs and an AM chipset the best you could do is 8x/8x/4x. For example with proart b650

>>102278291
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxgfJOWaXDw
>4080 MSI Trio Never seen before Connector fell off & triggered Smoke Alarm
damn these rtx4000 cards are built to fail
guess im going amd next year

Probably the wrong thread for this, but I'm looking for a <$400 laptop that outperforms a ROG Ally Extreme, because those sell for about $400 and seem to blow every laptop I can find at that price point out of the water.

Surely there's a better laptop for that much?

>>102284951
laptops at that price point aren't built to maximize graphics performance

>>102284951
look for a laptop with the same cpu and ram or with the new zw

>>102284720
Prime X570-Pro

>>102284848
That's why I said I'd be fine with 4.0 x4/x4/x4.

>>102285008
looks like a nice board. you get x8/x8/x4 pcie4. I'm finding it hard to express how happy I am for you

>>102285044
Only problem is now I'm looking at MSI X670-P Pro with a 7600X. Looks like it matches the 5800X3D in gaymen and beats it on everything else. All together and including RAM it would be about $100 more than the 5600X build.

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I've been looking to fix temps on a laptop that's a bit unruly and disobedient.
Many people recommend PTM7950. Apparently it's crazy good but application is a little complicated. I've seen a list of steps involving chilling and heating stuff and I honestly don't know what the fuck is that all about but I guess I'll have to look for it.
Anyways, I ended up not buying that, but this. TPCM7125. Said to be a more affordable substitute to PTM7950. Is anyone here familiar with this? I'm curious to see if this shit is going to have a nice effect or kill my laptop.

>>102285089
get nonX am5

>>102284972
That's the issue, I can't find a comparable laptop for under $600 used, much less new. And the rog is $400, so

>>102285089
b650 can do x8x8x4 pcie4 too the only problem is finding a board at a sensible price

>>102285129
The board I'm looking at does x8/x8/x4 and I found one used for $100.

>>102285107
Only $6 cheaper.

>>102285090
Looks like it has a lower thermal conductivity but is otherwise similar. I do doubt it'll be any easier to apply but, to be fair, 7950 isn't that hard in the first place. Just buy more than you need and expect to lose the first application.

>>102285178
I bought about 11x11cm, should be fine.
I was just watching the first video I found for it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo69t2GN8vo

It's in Russian, I can barely understand dick, but going by the subtitles it seems to be decent. Weirdly enough he applies it not by cutting a square that covers the entire die, but by cutting two parts and doing the typical X some people do with thermal paste. After testing it out it seems to cover the entire area evenly and nicely and he's satisfied with the temps (on a 3080).

No I did not put in all the motherboard screws and I never ever will

>>102283060
>package never stolen before
>PSU inside
>wont answer phone or door
Lol it's obvious that he wasn't home and your package got stolen because he couldn't get to it. Dumb anon.

>>102283221
Very well known red poppy symbolising spilt blood in Flanders fields during the great war.

>>102285249
5 screws on the mobo is enough
like how i put only 6 screws out of 12 on my 360mm aio

>>102285268
it kinda looks like perforated anus

So I got a corsair shift PSU to avoid having too many cables in the shroud area since I plan to install some intakes on the bottom (the case is a Lancool 216, it does actually take some air from there). Was this a stupid decision? Do corsair PSUs blow up? What about coil whine? I'm aware this PSU is fine on this case and there is enough clearance for the gimmick.

>>102282610
Pave the road leading up to your home. Get a compressed air duster and use it at whatever frequency works for you.

>>102285201
Personally I wouldn't risk that on direct-die. Assuming it's not conductive* I'd rather have some excess because missed spots on a bare die can kill the chip if you get unlucky. You have plenty so no reason to skimp.

*If it is conductive, don't use it.

I want to buy a 4k Oled monitor for movies and games, but I don’t want to upgrade my GPU until the 5000 series comes out. Will there be any issues with running this setup on my 6600 xt until then? I assume I can just set games to 1080 even though the monitors 4k?

>>102285333 (observed)
The Shift is a top tier unit. Should have no problems although coil whine is still a lottery. With that said there's little benefit to bottom intake on the 216 - it has excellent GPU cooling at stock and the intake fans will have to move air past two obstructions. By all means try it but my guess is you'll be hard-pressed to notice a difference in field conditions.

>>102285378
well you prob want a 1440p monitor for games

>>102285389
I see. I guess it's still good for easier cable management. I'm just trying to avoid as much GPU fan noise as possible (given that there's no coil whine to be noticed there) ironically by installing more fans. I thought that if the front intakes were pushing air through the shroud at the bottom without the HDD cages in the way, and without much cable mess down there either, there'd be a benefit. Maybe it's not the best idea or the gimmick rear fan for the PCIe slots on the 216 would actually help more with GPU temps, there's mixed results with that from what I've seen. I don't have either the case or the PSU yet at hand so don't know how that goes. We'll see.

>>102285333
My top of the line ax1600i that costs as much as i9s blew up within 3 hours of use
I think it's a luck of the draw thing

>>102285478
Good lord

>>102285333
RMx PSU's are great, people only stopped using them because we know there are marginally better/cheaper PSU's due to Aris testing, and because of the uncertainty of having the new shifted PSU fit in your case and it not showing up on pcpartpicker for the longest time.

How dumb is using a (good, ATX 3.0) 750W PSU with a 7800X3D and a 4080 Super? PCpartpicker says the system is going to use 601W at peak consumption.

>>102285090
I use ptm7950 for everything. You have to put it in the freezer before you install it, otherwise it's too soft and hard to get your square off the plastic sheet without ruining it.

I didn't notice any difference on anything I used it on, but that also means it works and didn't make things worse, and I won't have to reapply it.

>>102285521
it's fine

>>102285501
>marginally better/cheaper PSU's
I wouldn't say marginally. The RMX SHIFT 850 is almost 50% more expensive

>>102285470
I don't think it'll hurt anything, your wallet aside, but rather it's just a case of diminishing returns. By buying the 216 and (presumably) a good card model you've already got the low-hanging fruit re. card noise. There's a tradeoff to adding more fans whereby you get more airflow for a given (total) speed but you do add more baseline noise. You're probably in the range where those effectively cancel out. Again, feel free to try it - there's no substitute for testing.

>>102285541
>>102285541
>>102285541

>>102285008
Worth keeping in mind that for that mobo the x4 PCIe and the 2nd m.2 slot are chipset lanes, so if you connect 3 GPUs on x8/x8 (direct CPU lanes) /x4 (this one is a chipset lane) and use both m.2 slots, the 2nd m.2 SSD will share bandwidth with your 3rd x4 connected GPU.

Remember zen 4 and zen 5 have 28 lanes total of which only 24 are available direct lanes, the other 4 go downstream to the chipset. All mobo lanes connecting to the chipset will be sharing bandwidth upstream to the CPU on the 4 lanes connecting the CPU and chipset, as the chipset acts like a multiplexing lane switcher.

In practical usage there shouldn't be a saturation problem unless you need to use both m.2 storage devices intensively while your x4 GPU runs.

>>102285521
I use my 7 year old Corsair 650w PSU to power a 7800x3d and 3090
You're fine

>>102285521
Forgot to link >>102285661

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4070 super + 7800x3d
or 4070 super TI + 7600x

>>102285887
For high resolution gaming the 4070 super is basically junk at this point

>>102285933
1440 gaming

>>102285967
4070 super Ti + 7600x for sure. You most likely won't fully utilize the 7600x but definitely will get bottlenecked by the 4070 super at 1440p especially with newer games

>>102281393
If it isn't natively part of your screens then honestly I'd just run two longer cables over buying an MST hub, it'll be cheaper. The only reason to do it really is when you're using 4+ monitors.

Hubs aren't that pretty

>>102285090
I used it just yesterday on my CPU, it's really easy to use, just put it in the fridge(not the freezer) for 15-30 minutes, and when you put it on chip do not use fingers, take a credit card and press on it with the card.

>>102284274
Clean your desk

>>102284909
Lmao this is 100% a MSI QC control problem but yeah this connector and all cards that use it are lemons