>>102285541
>OS
>Activate Windows
aww wittle windows usews

>>102285541
Good OP is back, hallelujah

>>102285552
>Gaming on linux
Never, ever again. Complete waste of time. I have better things to do than diagnosing problems

>>102285565
are these problems in the room with us?

>>102285541
>vertical mounted GPU
It's nice that this case only needs a riser for this, but is there a point?

>>102285541
>1080p: RTX 4070 Ti Super, RX 7900 GRE
7600xt and 4060ti 16gb are some budget options to consider

reminder that there is literally no price point where buying an amd gpu makes sense

Montech Air 100 Lite (MicroATX) is available for $45 in the US. Great case if you're a frugal buyer

>>102285575
They are on wine forum, steam forums, you name it...

>>102285597
Sorry bro. Ryzen 7600 just works. It's too good of an offer to not take up

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>>102285575
They're in every room where linux is used for gaming.
Only around 41% (lmao) of games work out of the box without major issues.

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>>102285597
just bought one for 900usd
suck
a
dick

>>102285625
What if he decides to upgrade to a more powerful 50 or 60 series GPU in the future? The extra wattage would bring him close to full load. You want to leave 20% headroom and he's already at that. A 750W PSU is not future-proof

>>102285656
enjoy your rasterized graphics while the industry is moving towards ray tracing

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>>102285669
fuck your industry

>>102285661
Oh, I guess I assumed that he was talking about a PSU he already owned, and using it in a new build. Otherwise if he's buying new then yeah he should go higher, it's not like higher watt PSUs are that much pricier nowadays.

>>102285675
?

>>102285680
Nobody cares about western slop, what's the point of ray tracing if it's used for afros and nigger lips?

That's why we have path tracing now

>>102285597
I had a choice between a slower 3060 ti for $40 more, a 6700xt 12gb, or a 3070 for $180 more.

Glad I picked the rx 6700xt. It's in-between the 2 Nvidia cards but it's utterly adjustable in every way. My gtx 1070 had a lot of bullshit restrictions, specifically power limit. I've undervolted it down to 160w while maintaining stock performance. With 12gb vram, antilag, 120hz VRR, and my 5800x3d, my minimum fps in everything is great with how little this build cost, and how silent/cool it runs.

GPUs over 250w should be outlawed.

>>102285700
Upgraded from a 1080 Ti to a 4080 Super. Glad I don't have to use a 6700 XT.

I want to upgrade from my 6700 XT to something newer and more powerful so I can use RT and max settings in a few games. I have a 5800X3D and a 650W PSU. What can I get that will fit inside that wattage, I really don't feel like upgrading the PSU.

>>102285726
I wouldn't want either of those cards. I don't want fans above 1600rpm and I don't want my room temp to increase so much that a cracked window can't deal with it.

>>102285731
Is it a good 650w psu or a true shanghai street vendor special? There is a world of difference if the unit can actually handle 650w.

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>>102285720
GPU's under 250W should be outlawed. No seriously, our rulers need some motivation to plop down more nuclear reactors. We're already 50+ years late with that. More energy consumption + higher energy flux density = human progress.

>>102285731
4070 Super is the best you can get with that PSU

>>102285731
4070 super is the lowest watt GPU that's going to give you decent performance in RT, though you're limited to 12GB. Pulls 30w less than 6700xt.
Another option is 4070ti super with power limiting, though unless you're already up against the limits of your PSU then you could probably run it stock. 285w vs your 230w 6700xt.

>>102285739
HVAC solves all of that

>>102285764
That's fine if you're living with your parents and not paying for power

>>102285541
God these GPU recommendations are so retarded, why do you faggots reposting this garbage?
>1080p: RTX 4070 Ti Super, RX 7900 GRE
>1440p: RTX 4080 Super, RX 7900 XT
I seriously hope you guys don't do this. I have a 6700 XT and it runs unoptimized console garbage like The Last of Us perfectly fine, I get buttery smooth 60 fps on medium-high settings without FSR enabled. I'm pretty sure a 4070 Ti Super could do even better at 1440p
>inb4 60 fps is not enough
It is absolutely enough unless you're a brainwashed consoomer cattle who needs to updoot every year

>>102285752
It's Corsair, Gold rating 80+ so no worries there.
>>102285758
>>102285763
Thanks, there's a Gaming X Slim on sale even in the shop I usually buy at, that's perfect. Any reason not to go for the Super Ti? Though even if it fit for the wattage, it doesnt seem to be that worth it for the price difference.

>>102285794
GPU recommendations have just been rotating between different troll posts for months now, the GPU market is complete shit and no one should be buying anything if they can help it.

>>102285811
You're pushing it 50 watts over the recommended PSU with the Ti Super. Depends on how safe you want to play. The difference in performance isn't that much and I personally would not go for it but up to you

>>102285811
The problem with the 4070 super is that it's 12GB, which is fine for 1080p but there's already plenty of games where it struggles to load full quality textures at 1440 and above. RT also increases VRAM usage fuirther. 4070ti super is 16GB and handles things much better, with the downside of being worse value in raw performance.

See kids, this is why you always go for big PSUs. 1000W or bust

>>102285829
>RT also increases VRAM usage fuirther
So does framegen as by definition of how the technology works it needs to buffer a frame so it can insert the generated one. Memory demands are climbing as ultimately all those fancy effects need data from memory.

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>>102285827
Understood, I'll stick to the 4070 Super then. Thanks a lot guys.
>>102285829
I'm honestly not that worried at this point, I basically play games with a 3 year delay so by the time something that really wrecks the hardware comes around, I'll be upgrading anyway.

>>102285829
>Plenty of games
Is there a list of that?
So far I've seen SW Outlaws, SW Outlaws and also, SW Outlaws.

>>102285874
R&C, Cyberpunk, Avatar, homeworld 3 with RT come to mind. There's probably some more. Point is, they already exist and the list is not going to get shorter. Why buy a card that is already bordering on obsolete?

>>102285860
Consider this though: the 4070 super ti is 850 bucks, but a 1000W PSU is only 150. If you're ready to drop 850 if only it would run well, why not just get a better PSU? All of a sudden you are free to go higher. Then if you want to go for the 4070 Ti Super at all, just go for the 4080 Super instead because the difference in performance for RT and max settings is so much greater than the price of $850 vs $999. It's also going to future-proof for your GPU nicely by years. You could even upgrade two generations later without getting a new PSU.

So instead of $600 on something you really wanted the better version of or $850 on something you want but can't power, you spend a little more and land at the best spot, and stay there for a long time. I think the best time to change your PSU is now and treat yourself to high power gaming

>>102285968
All of this post is dumb

I have a 560w PSU and I ran a 300w r9 290x for years, and here you are telling a guy he can't run more than a 230w 4070 super on a 650w.

>>102286099
So you did some retarded shit and now others are dumb for not following your steps and limiting their GPU upgrade ability while they're at it too. A good PSU lasts for ages and there's no reason to not get more power now

Which GPU cores they put in zen5?

>>102286140
Rdna2 on desktop
Rdna3.5 on mobile

>>102285656
Bought one of these for 4K gayman on ubuntu.
Had it for about a year, it's been heavenly compared to my previous 1070Ti.

My only worry is when moving my machine around for parties, i fear it is too heavy and might damage my PCIe port or something.

>>102286144
so the same thing I have in zen4, I hoped for 3.5, those 2CU benchmarks are fun to watch

>>102285756
>our rulers need some motivation to plop down more nuclear reactors
That'd go against the plan of energy starvation

>>102286149
take it out when moving. it will definitely rip out your PCIe slot or break the connector on the card if road bump is too big.

>>102285756
old reactors suck, salt mini nuclear reactors still in development, I hope they will at least start using those, it goes only up to 600C' which is nothing compared to proper huge reactors

>>102286191
Westinghouse AP1000 don't suck

Intel ONE

>>102286206
...node they could not find any customers for

>>102286163
They are REALLY lazy for not improving the IO at all, even though zen4 is already very memory bandwidth limited by the IF (that hasn't changed since zen2)

>>102286202
it works on your normal fuel everyone uses, MOSART is cooler it runs on used fuel for twice as long.

Are OC versions of cards ever worth it?

>>102286227
nope. only for cooler thickness, but you are overpaying way too much for a little bit more of aluminium.

>>102285770
Its fine if you don't live with your parents as well.

>>102286227
Only Founders Edition

>>102286241
it is the basic card.

>>102286233
it's fine if you live with your parents and pay for power too.

>>102286247
Nope, it's OCd

>>102286227
yes, oc versions have improved power delivery over stock.

>>102286281
source?

>>102286227
OC cards are the same thing but with a higher factory overclock and sometimes, higher factory power target (e.g. 370W instead of 320W) that is pointless since you can raise it on non-OC cards anyway

Is an older GPU worth repasting if the hotspot temp delta is still only 10C?

should I fall for mITX meme

>I change countries sometimes
>My 10 year old laptop is still too good to drop 3K on a noticably better laptop now
>I want to fool around with local generative AI

>>102285577
deshroud + duct + side mounted fans

>>102286408
*Local* generative AI and mITX does not fare together. The case cannot dissipate the heat fast enough.

>>102286382
10c is nothing so don't bother.

>>102286495
>things nobody ever does
so no

>>102286408
do the math on how much do you save in shipping costs by making it smaller vs. how much you spend on marked up smaller components with worse thermals

>>102286512
There is a point, and if you have above room temp iq you can do all of this very easily and enjoy better gpu thermals. Most cattle buy RGayB lights and cases with glass windows so they can watch the dust swirl around inside, in which case there is indeed no point.

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So, how much games with rayslop trooncing do we have, nshartia brothers?

>>102286559
metro exodus EE doesn't count btw

>>102286382
honestly I repasted two older gtx cards and didn't notice much improvement in the hotspot delta, just overall temps. It's probably only worth repasting if you're about to do general maintenance anyway.

>have my new build almost done
>still can't choose a PSU because every I look I get a completely different opinion
>pcpartpicker doesn't even list the ATX 3.0 complaint ones
I found a Gamdias Kratos P2-750G at 60€ and it seems to have all the recommended specifications. 750W, gold rated and ATX 3.0. It sounds too good to be true since every other PSU I found with sismilar characteristics doesn't go below 120€. I don't want to go cheap with the PSU but I'm losing my mind trying to choose one.

>>102286593
don't lose your mind, I'll help you out

1. cheap psus are the first thing to go
2. atx 3.0 is a meme
3. 80+ ratings are a meme

just. get. seasonic. 750W, modular, whatever rating.

>>102286515
I can't even imagine shipping a PC. I have zero trust in movers of any kind.

>>102286619
I've done it multiple times with freight companies. All I do is pull the GPU from it so it doesn't break the pcie port, and ship it with copious amounts of packaging material. If you work with some kind of critical system you might want to pull your disks too due to the data, but it's not as bad as randoms on the internet make it seem, you obviously only get to read the complaints of the people for whom it went awfully wrong.

>>102286559
There are only 3 games where RT works well
>portal rtx
>cp2077
>minecraft

>>102286559
DLSS is the new RT fomo

I'm sad I have to stay with nvidia for architectural production or I'd swap over to radeon in the blink of an eye

looking at a 4090 for 4k gaming. every monitor I look at now is 144-240Hz. if I've only ever had 60Hz before, is experiencing 144 or 240fps (at any resolution) gonna ruin 60fps gaming for me? the money's not really the issue, but not sure if there's any point to a 4k 240Hz monitor if I'll be spoiled and end up just playing it at 1440p to keep the framerate high.

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>>102286593
Okay, it's really simple.
>Read the 750W section of the guide in the OP.
>115V ranking for USA.
>230V ranking for Europe.
>Get one that's top of the list and relatively cheap, preferably around 95% or better.
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/3/

Unlike what the other anon said, ATX 3.0 is not a meme and can handle power spikes much better, at wattages much higher than it's rated for so you don't need to overspend on a PSU anymore.

The guy who made this guy has professional equipment and is heavily involved with Cybenetics, which is a testing company, and has also written for Toms Hardware, Techpowerup, and Anandtech.

>>102286691
Ok, ATX 3.0 is not a meme, but what about 3.1? Is it worth grabbing a better ATX 3.0 over a slightly worse or a pricier 3.1 one? I've seen a lot more ATX 3.0 options out there.

>>102286671
>is experiencing 144 or 240fps (at any resolution) gonna ruin 60fps gaming for me?
yeah probably
but also seeing the clarity of 4k will do the same for lower resolutions
at least running 4k dlss will give you about the same performance as 1440p native

>>102285669
LMAO i heard tht for that last 8 years PLEASE suck a cock and DIE
>>102285693
this, software lumen runs well enough
>>102286149
>>102286177
+1 for taking it out i didnt put the bracket thing in for 2 weeks its been a month now since i had it already bent

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>>102286707
ATX 3.1 is in fact worse in some aspects.
https://hwbusters.com/quick-tips/should-i-get-an-atx-v3-1-psu-or-an-atx-v3-0-will-be-fine-everything-you-need-to-know/

>>102286754
Oh damn, good to know. I guess buying ATX 3.0 is not necessarily a mistake these days.

>>102286671
144/240hz is unnecessary
you get most of the benefit of high refresh at just 90-100hz IME which will be just as snappy because of vrr

>>102285541
what case is that?

>>102286809
Lancool 216

>>102286738
>seeing the clarity of 4k will do the same for lower resolutions
yeah this is where I'm at, got a 2080s 4k laptop that's not cutting the mustard anymore, but having experienced 4k on older games in particular, I don't wanna go "backwards".
>dlss
haven't really been a fan so far, maybe I've been unlucky

>>102286786
>90-100hz
gonna need dlss for that at 4k or nah? will cyberpunk ever get to that at 4k lol

>>102286834
4k in older games is goddamn glorious, though I disagree with anon saying 144/240 is unnecessary as - especially for lcds - the motion clarity improvements are noticeable and really do matter IF (and that is a big if) the panel can actually keep up with the refresh rate. Many monitors cannot despite being able to run at those refresh rates (overdrive 'n shiet).

>>102286691
Thanks anon. I found the Corsair RM750x Shift for 120€. It seems to be the cheaper one from the top of the list and I'm just tired of lookig at components, so I'm just settling for it.

>>102286858
>IF (and that is a big if) the panel can actually keep up with the refresh rate
what do I have to look for/avoid?

>>102286855
Yes it will be needed unless you turn all RT off

>>102286885
Just make sure that one's compatible with your case (and you don't want to switch to a slim one later on). Many of the standard cases these days are.

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>that much money for a B650E with a usb 4
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>102286888
look for rtings and monitors unboxed reviews

>>102286944
includes VAT

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>>102286888
This >>102286946 and TFTCentral are another great source. Pic related of a monitor with bad overdrive.

>>102286938
>Just make sure that one's compatible with your case
I trust pcpartpicker with my life

>>102286944
motherboard vendors are supremely jewish
just wait till you see what the Socket 1851 motherboards are going to cost despite being the fourth refresh of Socket V

>>102286495
Got a good exemple of ducting for me ? I have been thinking of doing something similar

>>102287020
You don't need to, I think corsair has a website with a compatibility list. It's likely to be fine if you're going to put the PSU fan facing the bottom and the case isn't under 220mm wide (it's a bit difficult to find them, trust me, I've been looking for slim cases myself not long ago). I think this PSU might not be as convenient on those dual chamber cases.

>>102286916
>>102286946
>>102286988
thanks anon(s), sounds like it's got legs, I'll consider it all carefully before making a decision

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2SLnAUdhSQ
>buy expensive graphics card
>use the factory 12vhpwr adapter
>connector straight up desolders itself from the card due to a manufacturing fault
>MSI denies RMA
>now that there's publicity to this issue, MSI comments "oopsies we acknowledged the issue, it will never happen again sowwy :3" and still doesn't refund the card
if anyone needed another reason to avoid MSI

>>102287145
>12vhpwr
Not even once.

>>102287159
is there a reason to buy an ATX3 PSU if you are never going to use that connector?

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>building a pc used to be cheap

>>102287162
It is chicken and egg really as psus can last a long time and we don't know if gpus will see further adoption of the connector. I think Nvidia will push it at the high end because lmao what you gonna do? but phasing it into the mid range is a much tougher sell.

>>102287165
>Heavy duty 200 watt switching powar supply
We need to go back

>>102287165
when people say that they're talking about five years ago before inflation when you could build a $500 system

What's the best value previous-gen/used GPU right now? For a 27" monitor, mostly older games, media watching.

>>102287252
6900XT

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Am I missing something? Why would I wait for the top one to release then wait some more for the price to become reasonable when I can buy bottom for less money right now?
>buy nvidia bro
4070 TI Super is the weakest card I would be willing to buy and it costs significantly more where I live while the 7900 is priced at US MSRP

>>102287252
Hard to quantify. If you want consistent 1440p60 on older games then maybe a 1060 or RX580 but those are getting real old now and can be expected to die pretty quickly. Wise to trade some raw value for longevity with a newer card like a 1660/Ti/Super. Just don't pay so much that you might as well buy a BNIB low-end card like a 3050 6GB.

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>>102287162
Yes. They are more robust than ATX 2.X PSU's in a number of ways.

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>>102287364
wrong pic

>>102287367
>3050
why would anyone ever recommend this when the 6600 exists

>>102287377
>speculation
It's all rumors, but the 8000 series is rumored to be very underwhelming.

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>>102287252
https://bestvaluegpu.com/
Click:
>Condition: used

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/npfRZJ
newfag here, just looking to build a purely office PC that will last me a good while. Mainly to store and move around big files, working multiple office programs at the same time and general multimedia stuff but no gaming. Does this work? I know I can go cheaper but I have enough funds to get at least some mid-tier stuff. Also do I need the CPU cooler in this case? The PSU and Tower are way less expensive here so it ends up at around ~550€ total.

>>102287364
>>102287377
the 8800XT is rumoured to be $499, so roughly the same performance for $180 less

>>102287413
I hope you aren't planning on purchasing that PSU for $216 because that is a ripoff

>>102287383
I wasn't really recommending it just using it as an example of a cheapo new card that'll do the job. The 6600 is a better choice but doesn't so much compete with used cards at current pricing.

>>102287429
yeah I'm from Germany and it's 60€ here, no idea why it shows as this expensive

>>102287427
I can maybe see the processors being better therefore requiring less power but how is less vram and cache going to be better?

>>102287377
>>102287364
You can't read specs.
RDNA 4 is architectural and memory hierachy generation leap.
For reference a RDNA2 GPU with half the CU count is still twice as fast as RDNA1 GPU clocked higher with more cores.

>>102287445
The build is okay. You could improve it buy buying a better cooler (Phantom Spirit SE) and better ram (32GB 6400CL32). Bigger cooler will be able to be more silent since it's better at dissipating heat.

>>102287364
>>102287377
I want a 8800xt for better efficiency and lower cost
7900xt performance is nice and all but I live near the equator and any heat that I can reduce goes a long way in comfort and AC cost

>>102287470
its not going to be better, its going to be equivalent using less material which means cheaper and its due to node performance uplift and architectural improvement.
for example, the 6900XT = 7800XT despite the 7800XT having 20 less CUs and half the cache of the 6900XT.

>>102287488
What about RDNA 3 vs RDNA 2, huh

>>102287523
A 6900xt is more like a nerfed 7900GRE. They both get the same timespy scores in 2024. AMD put way more L3 cache in the prior card and it isn't at a chiplet disadvantage.

But it is much cheaper to produce the GRE and that's the whole point of next gen to reduce costs and power draw.

>>102287096
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cehXZftIYok

>>102287445
de.pcpartpicker.com

>>102287530
Completely different architectures on all fronts. You beta tested world first chiplet GPU like Ryzen 3000s world first chiplet CPU issues and now they're going back to monolith.

>>102287523
And the VRAM? I doubt Outlaws will remain the only slop requiring 17.5gb at fucking 1080p

>>102287546
Again you can't read specs. New architecture means new memory compression techniques and more ipc on cores and memory and L3 and etc means less capacity holding as more data is processed and let go overall.

>>102287552
the only thing we know about AMD memory compression is that will be worse than nvidia wich is still not enough to save a gimped card

>>102287578
if anything AMD has better memory compression which is why Nvidia relies on GDDR6X

>>102287578
Nvidia doesn't even have L3 cache and their L2 cache exhausts way to easily because they're doing so many driver copybacks trying to their weak bus.

>>102287578
I will take 16 red gigabytes over 12 green any day of the week. The only thing I am wondering is whether new red 16 is better than old red 20

>>102287578
Anon AMD has console market they have to be the kings of compression to make up for Sony and Microsoft nerfing their custom AMD chips

>>102287364
>>102287377
I'm not willing to pay like $800 for a graphics card so I'm hoping the 8800 XT will be as good or even better than the 7900 XT as a $500 card. Yeah hopes will be dashed again but I'm going to wait and see first.

>>102287674
The plan is 4080 super performance for $650-700

>>102285565
>gaming

Any info on the 9800X3D?

>>102287704
the only thing we know is they've moved the V-cache for Zen5X3D so the full speed of the cores will be able to be achieved, its uncharted so who knows what the uplift is going to be. Doomfags are expecting a 5% uplift over the 7800X3D.

>>102287545
lol
lmao even

So I was forced to get a wifi usb stick adapter for my pc because I have not gotten a motherboard with a wifi receiver when I built my pc 4 years ago. Issue I am having my usb adapter keeps randomly disconnecting me from internet and I think it is a drivers issue since I have none preinstalled. My phone has no wifi issues. The adapter has a built in drivers for ease of connection (just plug it in, automatically installs drivers what it needs and connect to wifi) but maybe my pc needs proper drivers (by Realtek possibly)? What do?

Alternatively, what do you anons do if you need to upgrade your pc to be able to connect to wifi network? I saw these wifi cards that connect directly to motherboard. Would that be the better investment?

Weird question, has any of you ever modded a power switch on a PC case for a clapper? Why would I press a button when I could clap my hands to turn it on?

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https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-ultra-9-285k-7-265kf-and-5-245kf-listed-by-first-retailer
Positive signals at least as far as pricing on ARL being consistent with the RPL i5/7/9 they are replacing at street value unlike Zen 5 vs. Zen 4. If true, I suspect AMD is trying pass more of TSMC's ransom onto consumers than Intel is this gen.

>>102287832
what if you need to hold the power button to force shut down? do you just clap repeatedly?

>inb4 pull power cable
enjoy your corrupted/dead drives

is an i5 6600+1660S still good enough for esports titles at 1080p144 these days? Looking for something for a young family member. Could maybe drop 90€ on an i7 7700 to make the cpu more bearable

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>>102287578
Compression isn't the cheat as no data is lost in the compression. What they used to do (and probably sometimes still do) is lower the color space inside the driver to make up for their historically inferior color handling capabilities. This resulted in higher framerates than AMD/ATi as a result. Forcing nVidia to compute at the same quality as AMD/ATi defaults would cause significant performance drops.

This was most apparent in the DX9 era, with colors being washed out and inaccurate on nVidia products - something many would only notice if immediately comparing to the competition.

Aside from that, nVidia has a long history of sacrificing quality to win the FPS war. Lower level of detail settings, cheating at long distant draws, ignoring draw calls, lower quality filtering, and much more trickery was used to make them look like they were ahead of the competition when they were failing to keep up.

For quite a while it was common for video card reviews to examine image quality as a result of this type of cheating by nVidia and others. As a result of the increased scrutiny and nVidia's genuine hardware advantage it is far less common today... instead they pay game developers to overuse nVidia specific features or strengths to undermine the competition.

>>102287824
yes a pci card would be more performant and have real antennae

I have 4 24” shit monitors set in a 2 wide 2 high configuration. I’m thinking of just going 2 ultra wides but like having 4 screens it looks like shit tho. The 4 is good for work as I can have a 2D floor plan, the 3d view, pdf, and emails all on different screens. Input would be appreciated.

>>102287926
2x lg dual up 28MQ780
thank me later

>>102285541
>4000D airflow
Why do I have to avoid it? I am clueless so somebody pls enlighten me

>>102287961
pos thermals, bad value
if you already got it, it's just a box and you forget about it

>they charge 20€ extra if you want your motherboard to have BIOS updated when you order it
lmao do people really not know how to do this?

>>102288016
>actual voodoo black magic

>>102287979
Do cases influence how difficult it is to built the pc for a first time builder and how do i know if the case has good fans already or should i buy extra fans?

>Build PC for the first time
>Triple check everything is plugged in the way it's supposed to
>Use PC for 3 days, no issues, always turn it off at night
>All of a sudden monitors won't display anything when hooked up to my GPU and computer doesn't recognize GPU is plugged
Literally what do I do. I had this issue when I initially first got my PC up and running but all I did to fix it was switch the two VGA cables around that connect to it and it worked instantly. It's plugged into the motherboard all the way and the gay rgb on it turns on when the PC is on but it's just not working. I have absolutely 0 clue what could possibly be the problem.

RTX 4070 TI Super

>>102288016
a bios update can fuck your motherboard up so consider it an insurance

>>102288016
I had issues doing it even though I followed literally every instruction possible to update it. Bought 3 different flash drives on top of the 2 I had already, formatted them the way they want you to etc and it just would not work and had to wait 3 fucking weeks sending it to them, them "fixing" it, then sending it back.

Sounds like something went wrong.
I used a 20 year old 1gb flash drive as fat32 and just named the file CREATIVE.ROM and it has worked everytime on Asrock

>>102288050
If shit works, theres literally no reason to update it, the amount of times I heard people brick their mobos because something always goes wrong, the amount of times my friends updated their shit and games, drivers, usb ports etc stopped working is too many
the fact that its 2024 and we still can't update bios like is nvidia driver is retarded

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>>102288046
>Do cases influence how difficult it is to build the pc for a first timer?

Yes, but it shouldn't be the defining factor unless you're trying to build inside a match box. Make sure you're happy with what it looks like since you'll be seeing it every day for a long time.

>How do I know if the case has good fans already?

Usually, if it comes from a brand known for its fans, it has good fans. bequiet cases come with wings fans which are excellent, for example. It's usually specified what fans are included with the case and you can look up specific reviews. If they don't specify the kind of fan they include, they're not proud of them and you'll likely end up wanting to replace them if you care enough about optimal thermal performance. If you want a case despite trashy fans, make sure it comes with a PWM splitter (simple circuit board that allows 1 header on the motherboard to control multiple fans simultaneously).

>>102288107
you failed the neural density check

>>102288212
except shit doesn't work on current gen CPUs and you would be retarded not to update it to at least partially remove most of the troubles
Both AMD and intel boards should be updated before you put the CPU in

>>102288048
Can you try another GPU? Or do you have onboard graphics?
And also, try the gpu in another system if possible.

Is there anything big coming out in coming months worth waiting or should I just bite the bullet now?

>>102287491
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/pH2f6D
thank you, I changed out the ram to a 32 set but will the cooler really be that important for that kind of work besides the noise? here's the new version with the .de site as >>102287543 has shown. Actual prices are still a bit less but it's definitely more accurate now.

>>102288266
intel and amd gpus in mid october to end of november time window, ryzen 9000x3d too supposedly.

>>102288050
all am5 boards have cpuless flash
you can update your bios, yank the power cord out in the middle of writing it and you'll still be fine.

>>102288285
Cheers friend, guess I can wait a bit more.

>>102288048
1) are you getting any graphics at all?
if yes -> you are using the igpu, plug the monitor directly into the gpu instead of the motherboard
if not -> 2) are you sure it's the gpu? It could just not be posting because of ram, test 1 stick only in different positions, make sure it's seated properly in the slot

>>102285794
Played through TLOU on my 4070Super completely maxed out at 1440p. OP is baiting for replies with the 4070TISuper for 1080p comment.

>>102288212
Just from my experience, like this anon said >>102288244
Updated my B650 board to the latest BIOS and it significantly reduce boot time. You know how bad DDR5 was

>va
stop putting it into the op post you dumb fuck

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This game came out 9 years ago
Look at the graphics
You can pass this off as "Running on a RTX 4070 Ti Super"

>>102288222
Fuck your post trigger my buyer's remorse
>built a new pc after 10 years
>get new 750W PSU in case I want to upgrade later
>missed the memo about ATX 3.0
>got lancool 216 black cause I don't really want RGB
>only RGB has fan hub
PC works great surprisingly. But my mistakes haunt me

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what can I do upgrade this?

I'm waiting on newer intel chips.

>>102288222
Thanks! Originally I thought about a Corsair 4000d Airflow but now I lean towards the Phanteks XT Pro Ultra.

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>>102288336
Modern CPU's sound like fafo nightmare

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>>102288440
buy a new computer

NEVER INTEL AGAIN! REVOLT FELLOW SHEEP!

>>102288457
Intel chips are bad now. wanted to buy months ago

>>102288472
switch to amd

>>102288440
All newer intel chips come with fake cores so I suggest you look elsewhere

>>102288472
Chadlake dropping in a month, just wait, it's literally going to be endgame for at least 5-6 years

>>102288472
they will not be better, AMD is much better

>>102288440
Is that a pc or a room heater

>>102288487
>>102288485
>>102288481
>>102288479


I had a PC part picker. I'm doing 4k editing, gaming and some VR. instead this best for an intel chip?
legit not trying to flame war

>>102288506
7950x3d is a do-it-all chip

>>102288506
AMD is for gaming new games, old ones have to many issues, and forget about doing work related stuff. Intel is all around best at it. I really comes down to this, if you are a tech enthusiast that likes tinkering in bios, settings, drivers, lassoing processes, CCDS and doing all that other stuff, AMD is definitely more fun. Intel is your grandma could use type shit, you put in in and go, no fucking around (13/14th gen excluded odc)

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>>102285541
>>102285577
redpill me on riser cables

>>102288447
Early adopter tax, that's why a good reviewer is a blessing.
As a haswell former owner myself, going from that to zen4 with ssd is such a big upgrade for recent software/games. I'd like to recommend zen for you but you do you.

>>102288600
so..... Intel is good for work stuff?

I've been waiting since covid for a good intel chip. now intel le bad. now amd good chip for rendering?

>>102285656
B B B A S E D

>>102287145
No company you can trust these days. MSI is ass, ASUS is ass, GIGABYTE is definitely ass, Assrock, well, I mean it's in the fucking name. GPU manufacturers all the same.

>>102288668
Ok so basically you can pay up the ass for a cable that'll let you place the GPU vertically
In most setups it's just for looks and you either get the same temps or worse
There's a few conditions in which somehow horizontal might not be great for the GPU but those are not common.

>>102288668
>>102286495
>>102287096
>>102287541

>>102288413
you can get splitters for cheap from aliexpress, it just adds to the annoyance of waiting for deliveries etc.

>>102287145
>>use the factory 12vhpwr adapter
another reason why I'm not buying Nvidia card for another generation or two. When everyone switches to it I will consider it.

>>102287896
anyone?

>>102288723
>being worse than Radeon GARBAGE
Guess Nvidia is worse than garbage huh.

>>102288749
thanks. i heard some decreased performance, is that true?
>>102288758
?

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>>102288717
Motherboard? MSI
GPU? Sapphire
PSU? Seasonic
Case? Fractal
Cooler? Noctua
Thermal paste? PTM or Arctic Cooling
A recipe to avoid any kind of issues.

>>102288808
If it's close enough to the side panel there's barely any room for it to take air
Some of these GPUs now also have some sort of hole through the backplate through which they can exhaust air, horizontally this would end up around where your tower cooler would be but vertically they're just pushing that into the motherboard

>>102288808
with vertical mounting you can duct more easily through the side of your case for more performance. diy, easy tier. AIBs use the cheapest trashiest fans possible for shroud fans. There is no other use case for vertically mounting gpus, it's purely aesthetic if not doing airflow mods.

>>102288506
Get the Intel Arc GPU for video editing, they have AV1 encoder

>>102288828
pretty sure sapphire has the highest RMA rate or is among the highest.

>>102288723
>posts obvious cpu bottleneck

>>102288858
you are confusing them with EVGA(RIP)

>>102288848
makes sense
>>102288850
oh thanks you're right

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>>102288723
Only the most repsectable sources on this sub!

>>102288828
>MSI
correct but not on GPUs
>Sapphire
Loud GPUs, aggressive on fan curves
>Seasonic
No problems here
>Fractal
It's whatever really, Lian Li has good cases too
>Noctua
My NH-D15s was overpriced
>PTM or Arctic cooling
NT-H1 is better than MX4 at least

Is there a release date for 9800x3d yet?

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Day 521 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.

>>102288780
Yeah, I can get a splitter or 3rd party fan hub. It just triggered my autism for missing something so obvious in hindsight.

>>102288899
>>Sapphire
>Loud GPUs, aggressive on fan curves
really? my 390 nitro was dead silent, pulse 5700xt is silent as is
maybe modern 7900xtx nitros do that which I doubt, they usually give you two options OC and silent switch on the card

>>102288920
I bought a Sapphire 6700 when it came out and good lord it was obnoxious. Had to return it, it had some serious coil whine as well.

>>102288905
announcement is expected to happen at CES in january 2025

>>102288828
I will go back to my 8600GT build before I pay for an MSI product
>gpu
they all use the same board, just buy the cheapest one
>seasonic
that's not how you spell super flower
>case
whatever you have/like
>overpriced noctua
do you like the shit color scheme enough to pay double for it? just paint a thermalright/deepcool for less money
>thermal paste
whatever came with your cooler as temps are almost the same

>>102288937
any new GPU rumors? everyone gone quiet suddenly on all three ends, it's either coming soon or next summer

>>102288957
I'm really happy with Mortar board, a big step up from Gigabyte before it.

>>102287850
I have the powerbar at my feet, can press the switch

>>102288961
>GPU rumors
rdna4 is releasing soon(tm) in q4 before/around the holiday season
rtx5000 is releasing in Q1 2025
arc battlemage is paper launching this year and releasing god knows when

>>102288931
coil whine is a good thing. it means things are working and not stuttering. i'd be more worried if it didnt have coil whine or the coil whine is like ON AND OFF per half second that indicates microstuttering.

>>102288982
Intel partnered with Ubi for AC Shadows for both GPUs and CPUs, could be sooner than we think.

>>102287850
I can also set a parallel circuit and have both too
Hold the button when needed

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>>102285541
its over

I can just use S-Video on a old Radeon TV card and have it pass through my RTX 3060 if I want to use a CRT TV?

>>102289094
I mean, why not? That's what they did with Intel 6800K, they put out a CPU for x3 less price than same intel CPU. It is the only way to gain mindshare, now everyone swears by AMD CPUs, in 2017 everyone spat on them.

>>102289188
for one, nvidia isnt intel

>>102289094
false flag op to make nvideo sell nerfed 6gb 5000 series cards to cattle again, I like it

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>>102288986
based and tinnitus pilled

>>102289196
yea they are, they do exactly the same thing intel did, give you a 4080 card chip for the price of 4090 chip. why do you need 4 cores for? get a dual core!
Marketing is taught the same things to do in every corporation, and they follow same methods whenever they see opportunity to squish every juice out of customers.

are we currently on the last mobo socket/chipset gen that still natively supports W10?

>>102289094
Are they just giving up now?

>>102289311
>>102287683

>>102289224
to me coil whine is a like a framepacing meter you can hear rather than see. when framepacing is good the coil whine is uninterrupted. when framepacing is bad you hear the whine go on & off.

>>102289094
nice can't wait to buy the best 100$ bang for the buck 1080p card
we are dining well amd bros

>>102287470
Remember the 480 compared to the 390?

>>102289325
too expensive, make it $100 lower and people will storm the stores.

>>102289094
amdisaster

>>102289351
4080 supers are $1000-1200 starting.

>>102289351
you retarded son? its more efficient for less money.

>>102289368
>>102289380
yeah, and what do you think 5070 going to be? 4090 for $800? nobody going to buy "8800xt" if 5070 is "that much beter"

>>102289401
5070 is just more power efficient 4060. every gpu die is downgraded a tier stack.

>>102289094
the strategy is to give up? lmao

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>>102289368
>>102289325
How are they realistically going to make the leap in just a year even if they're abandoning chiplets this time round? The 4080 super is 50% faster than the 7800 XT which has roughly the same amount of CUs as the supposed 8800 XT.
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-7800-xt.c3839

>>102289401
this
the cpu division is carrying their asses so they may as well sell gpus at a slight loss to gain a market share

>>102289415
>5070 is just more power efficient 4060.
>4070 is faster than 4060 but somehow 5070 is slower
are you okay in there?

>>102289401
Nvidia launches flagships first and poorfag chips 1-2 years later. By the time a potential 5070 comes out amd already has a new refresh stack.

>>102289431
>>102287488
>>102287552


next gen cus,next gen l3, next gen architecture in general.
rdna 2 was 100% faster than rdna1 at same clocks

>>102289436
you mean 4-6 months later, that's not enough time. here is the future:
>RDNA4 comes out and everyone: "oh wait for nvidia to counter"
>4 months later Nvidia counters as they do
>sales stop
>AMD drops the price again
we've seen this dance again and again for the last 6 years. they need long term counter to gain market.

>>102289431
Sometimes people forget that AMD can 3D stack L3 on CPUs now and theres nothing stopping them from doing the same to GPU dies.

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>>102289118
Just buy an adapter, son

>>102289500
did you come from videocardz comment section?

>>102289431
>pic
AMD still slow?

>>102289094
Reason this doesn't work is even if you manage to make the number one mid card it still needs to compete vs previous gen and used top nvidias. Sure the used old nvidia might be node behind and have a big die, therefore use more power but I don't think people care as long as it gives more fps.

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I have devised an evil plan. I am going to return my GPU in November so I can take advantage of the holiday return window. I will then repurchase by GPU from another retail and return it as well when Nvidia's new flagship GPU drops in January.

Based or Retarded?

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Wtf, I just say "twelve core"

>>102289740
dozen core

Any news on the RTX 5090?

>>102289758
eleventy-core

>>102289714
What are gonna use while waiting?

amdead

>>102288723
Posting results showing the 7800X3D holding back $1800 GPUs is crazy. Warhammer is a heavy multi-core game and the 12600K performance (kek) of the 7800X3D is not enough. Cope harder, sad sight.

intel-enablers don't deserve good cpus, even (especially) reformed ones
you shouldn't be able to buy a Ryzen without a positive AMD social credit score and being certified intel-free going back at least 5 years

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>>102289094
Deck 2 chads I’m feeling goooood right now.

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/rx-7900xtx-game-crashes-suddenly.326228/

TPU forum is a great source for all AMD system problems

>>102289094
Linux Tablet when?
I’m tired of iShit and Jeetdroid.

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>>102290131
fucking kek

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>0.9 watts idle
thank you chadmont

>>102290115
>gatekeeping a company that sells crystals this hard
congrats on writing the weirdest post i've read all day on /g/

I have never used a monitor with a refresh rate higher than 60hz my entire life, how much different would it be to use, say, a 144hz monitor? Also does the different only happen when the FPS hits around the maximum refresh rate and it will look the same if my games only sitting around 60fps? thanks

>>102290186
Prakhar Verma is the paragon of trustworthiness and credibility

With the Intel CPU fiasco. Should I be worried with how battlemage GPUs are when they launch? Im really looking forward to that lineup

>>102290247
You will look back at 60fps in disgust, thinking how could you ever have tolerated that blurry mess.

>>102290289
Nah
Their GPU division is pretty much an entirely different company that's running the show and they aren't pushing 1.5-1.65v through their silicon to achieve nice marketing numbers

>>102290296
Does it look smoother even if my game are running on 60 frames on a 100+hz monitor compared to 60hz monitor?

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>>102290315

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>>102290315
>>102290329

>>102290324
No it won't
It might even look worse on the 100hz native panel since the overdrive windows are tuned for a 100hz refresh which results in ghosting or overshoot artifacts at low refresh rates that doesn't happen on the 60hz native panel

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>>102290315
>>102290329
>>102290346
And finally Qualcomm
Or as I like to call it, Changcomm

>>102290350
Ah, thanks for making that clear to me, cheers

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>>102290131
>>102290185
>It turned out to be a retard who was using a broken outdated Windows 10 LTSC meme install

>>102285541
Before I waste my own and everyone else's time is this or /sqt/ the better thread to ask about a newly build PC having weird problems? Specifically AM5 Zen4 with regards to RAM.

>>102290454
Nope, it is clearly AMD being broken.

>>102290464
>Amd
>>/sqt/

>>102290478
thx

>>102290454
>adrenaline relies more on windows
but /g/ told me amd is better on linux

>>102290492
adrenaline is the windows control panel software, not the wddm modules.

>>102290472
Nope, it is clearly a retard who formats Windows and suddenly everything is working.

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/amd-deprioritizing-flagship-gaming-gpus-jack-hyunh-talks-new-strategy-for-gaming-market

AYYMDEAD IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT

>>102290515
so how do you control amd on linux

>>102290492
If you're gonna shitpost at least dont be this dumb.

>>102290542
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/blob/main/src/util/00-mesa-defaults.conf#L807

>>102290350
NTA but, you are saying, there's no point to get a high refresh rate monitor if the games you are playing can't even go above 2 digits frames? Demanding games like cyberpunk with RT and alan wake, ect... where you'd be lucky to have 50fps even with top tier GPU

>>102290454
If you have to figure out how to make something work, it's a bad product IMO
That type of rationalization is how you drive away people from something like 3d printing because you proclaim an Ender 3 to be a good entry level printer.

>>102290515
I've formatted Windows plenty of times in my R9 380 but still was a POS

It's over, in the end it will only be AMD CPUs and Nvidia GPUs, no competitors

>>102290581
>>102290582
Imagine posting on a desktop and phone at same time

>>102290581
Windows 10 is literally broken on Ryzen so it's his fault for still using it and blaming his problems on everything but his 6 years old outdated Windows WDDM

>>102290622
Its bullshit that windows 7 doesn't support my voodoo 2.

>>102290542
My thumb up your moms ass controls the whole unit.

>>102290665
Yeah man I wish they could continue supporting dx9 forever along with 32 bit. Why the fuck my new 64 bit calls work with 32 bit shit?

>>102290604
What the fuck are you on about

Anons I need a 75w GPU, is the 3050 6gb really my best option?

>>102290665
>Dawid Does Tech Stuff got an XP machine from Craigslist
>installs Windows 10 to play HL 2
why?

>>102290622
Sounds like an AMD problem
People reemed and continue to reem about Intel's cuck cores and scheduling but it's everyone but AMD's fault there is issues on certain OS versions on their CPUs.

It's not even like AMD did an actual paradigm shift with new Ryzens either. They did what amounts to a refresh.

>>102287836
They will live or die depending of the mobo prices. They are supposedly very efficient though, so they may not need as many power phases as AM5. Allegedly B860 won't be coming until next year though, so I think it will be a tough launch. Intel has lost a lot of public trust and these prices aren't good enough to turn that around.

>>102290760
Mobo prices are more dicated by the vendors and are pretty arbitrary for midrange and higher end SKUs.

If there is excitement around new Intel CPUs, expect high prices, if there is not expect lower prices.

>>102290731
Idk but remember you can undervolt GPUs. 4060 already has low power consumption, maybe you can undervolt that? Idk

>>102290752
>Doesn't affect Linux, FreeBSD, or Windows 11
>"SOUNDS LIKE AN AMD PROBLEM"
no, its a windows problem you dork.

This thread and posters like >>102290752 are why I always tell people to get a prebuilt.

You're too stupid to install an operating system, LET ALONE BUILD A COMPUTER.

How can I tell if a motherboard I'm about to buy would slow the GPU PCIe slot if I also connect an m.2 in the main slot? I know some of them downgrade themselves for no reason

>>102286671
120/144fps is a luxury that provides minimal gaming improvement. I genuinely consider the obsession with it these days to be rubes falling for marketing. Imagine if suddenly people started saying you needed an ultra-widescreen monitor for the True Gaming Experience?

Recommend me a top-tier, best of the best, fastest W/R speed, most durable nvme ssd that can withstand a lot of punishment, my budget is endless so don't be limp dick about it.

>>102290886
>>102290886
>>102290886

>>102290865
ultra-widescreen is the true gaming experience tho. death stranding 1&2 on consoles even has 21:9

>>102290859
Almost every single PC in my house is built, including my router
I just like seeing tards try to argue why everything isn't AMDs fault while galdly throwing another hardware vendor under the bus for software issues and incompatibility.