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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

>CPU
Web browsing: 5600G
Budget: 12400F, 7600X
Gaming: 7800X3D
Workstation: 7900X
AVOID: Intel 13/14 series

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge/Arctic Liquid Freezer III, Hyte THICC Q60
Double towers: ID-Cooling FROZN A620 PRO SE, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67

>MOTHERBOARD
ASRock B650M-HDV/M2, B650 LiveMixer, cheap X670

>RAM
DDR4: 2x16GB 3200CL16. Budget, 2x8GB
DDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN580
Mid range: SN770
Premium: Samsung 990 Pro
Flagship: Sabrent Rocket 5

>GPU
1080p: RTX 4070 Super, RX 7700 XT
1440p: RTX 4080 Super, RX 7900 XT
4K: RTX 4090, RX 7900 XTX
Workstation: RTX 4000 Series, AVOID: AMD cards

>CASE (from $ to $$$)
mATX: Montech Air 100, Lian Li A3, Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li O11 Air Mini
ATX: Phanteks XT PRO(ULTRA), Montech AIR 903 Base/MAX, Antec C5, Lian Li Lancool 216/III
AVOID: 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, 4000D airflow

>PSU
Budget: Gold rated 500-600W PSU
Mid range: ATX 3.0 compliant fully modular gold rated PSU @ 75% max load
High end: Seasonic PRIME TX
AVOID: GAMEMAX
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/ (updated Q3 2024)

>MONITOR
1080p: KOORUI 24E3, MSI G2412F, MSI MAG 256F, MSI G244PF E2
1440p: ASRock PG27QFT2A, Dell G2724D
4K: Acer Nitro XV275K, Gigabyte M32U, Dell Alienware AW3225QF

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
High end: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)

Previous: >>102322853
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https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-ultra-200k-launch-pushed-back-by-a-week-now-coming-october-24
ARL launch slips a week.

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-ultra-200k-cpus-listed-in-canada-similar-pricing-to-14th-gen
Pricing looks competitive though (I am more worried about the price of the new socket mobos)
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>>102332070
yeah the motherboard prices are whats going to kill Arrow Lake adoption but I predict they'll be basically Raptor Lake refresh tier but without the death and 300W
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>>102332070
>new socket mobos
new socket again?
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>>102332070
The motherboards will be worth every penny because they will run ddr5 at 9000-10000mhz
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>>102332108
TDP numbers look promising, Intel is seriously on the way to do Core Duo come back in a gen or two, but I don't think they can beat EPYC without going full chiplet design.
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>>102332128
>ddr5 at 9000-10000mhz
to do what exactly? these MT/s faggotory is akin to linux ricing
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>>102332135
what are the TDP numbers?
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>>102332045
How do I make it look better? I can't think of anything else other than rgb extension cable
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>>102332141
would help an iGPU a lot
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>>102332156
Core Ultra 9 285T 35W 8P+16E (24)
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>>102332163
Remove the doll and the LCD.
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>>102332163
high CRI LEDs
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>>102332164
>spend $600 on a board to use iGPU instead fo spending $180 and invest the difference in real GPU
great logic.
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>>102332169
whats the boost TDP
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When is Swan Lake coming out
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>>102332197
they wouldn't pull another 300w of melting power, would they?

>>102332199
when Intel fixes their fabs, in 5 years.
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what pc build is equivalent to the ps5 pro?
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>>102332170
>>102332175
No memeing around. It's 1am and I deadass need to sleep frfr
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>>102332212
7800xt+7600+32Gb RAM.
Could go 7700 for 8c if it's cheap around you.
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>>102332180
>iGPUs bad
>muh PCIe card
>low profile slim computers bad
>mini PCs bad
>no to RAM MT/s, yes to GPU MT/s
>muh dGPU
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>>102332213
>Tranime
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>>102332204
>hey wouldn't pull another 300w of melting power, would they?
well currently their PL2 is like 2.5x their PL1, and I think actual power draw is like triple the PL1. and PL1 is what they typically advertise as the official TDP.

So i could see "35W TDP" actually being 88-105W
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>>102332213
the CRI looks so bad tho
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>>102332163
>Wandering bitch
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>>102332213
I was being serious
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>>102332197
>>102332204
Technically not 300w
177W pl2 baseline profile and 295w pl2 extreme profile on the 8+16 125w chip
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>>102332212
Something like this. You can basically get a full PC for $100 more.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/492JjH
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>>102332180
budget boards have no problem overclocking ram. see ddr5 10000+ on a cheap board
slow system memory is a major bottleneck in computing just like spinning hard drives were
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>>102332163
Straighten up those power cables especially the ATX 24 pin. Maybe invest in some right angle gpu power adapters if you're not afraid of melting your card. I don't even know what that japanime crap is but if you like it then ok. Otherwise it looks pretty sick imo
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>>102332295
seems like it uses more power than zen5
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When will the rgbt trend end
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>>102332404
When will the candles trend end
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Save us Arrow Lake
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>>102332410
Arrowlake will be on tsmc 4nm. Mark my words
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>>102332120
Yeah, but it's the first socket change since 2022 and got 3 generations (or really two if you don't count refreshes) which is pretty good for Intel. Also should make ARL CPUs run cooler since they're changing the Socket ILM that caused bendy-dies and not-great contact pressure on LGA 1700.
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/motherboards/intels-new-cpu-socket-may-not-need-custom-contact-frames-to-drop-temperatures-anymore-the-lga1851-socket-allegedly-features-reduced-load-ilm-to-improve-thermal-performance
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>>102332448
You forgot the rumored barlette lake
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>>102332458
>You forgot the rumored barlette lake
Damn you're right I memory hole'd Bartlett. Imagine a 12 P-Core only system with 64GB of cheap DDR4 RAM on a $100-130 Z690 or B660 board. Could be a nice combo for min-maxing.
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>>102332120
Yep. Arrow Lake and up will use the new LGA 1851 for their new meme technology that they copied from Apple. Raptor Lake and whatever trash after will still be on LGA 1700. Similar to AMD's AM4/AM5 situation. But this time you can actually justify Intel's actions because it's a brand new design.
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>>102332298
Obsolete before it even launches. It's just getting pathetic at this point. You don't even wanna laugh anymore, you just feel pity.
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i gave in and bought the bundle am i gaming
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>>102332549
yes bro
>asus
ehh... make sure you update the bios first thing
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>>102332563
i dont know enough to know it youre trolling or not. case doesnt come until this weekend but im excited
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>>102332574
what do you need a case for
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>>102332549
Cool, enjoy.
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>>102332592
>>102332593
thanks man it'll be my first time trying a amd card too. ive only ever built 1 pc
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>>102332602
im like a 1080p 50fps gamer for context
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>>102332611
this threads has helped me alot. i appreciate yall
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Any anons tried using this for an enthusiast build? Icegiant siphon pro, it looks heavy might damage the Mobo
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But /pcbg/ told me that AMD 3D Meme-Cacheâ„¢ Technology was the bestest thing ever. :(
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>>102332574
I'm not trolling, everything you've got is good but Asus were the ground zero of the AM5 cpus being overvolted last year.
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>>102332645
is this from userbenchmark?
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>>102332634
It won't damage the mobo but it is a PITA to work with and doesn't meaningfully outperform much cheaper AIOs. I would, however, recommend it for a HEDT build where the large coldplate makes a real difference.
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>>102332657
thank you, im making a list of things to do after i get it together. ill make sure to update the bios. should i do that first thing
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>>102332693
I see, Ive been curious on getting one after seeing this prototype from ID
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>>102332734
you can do it right now before you put the cpu in
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>>102332740
Sure. It's a cool concept and I'm glad to see firms experimenting with alternatives to heatpipes/water. If you're the kind of guy that likes that stuff for its own sake then feel free to spend the money. It's not as if it doesn't work; it's just not 100% minmaxed which is what most people here go for.
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I really want to have my new build rack-mounted, but the thermodynamics seem shitty. Like, this shit only has three intake fans on the front and nothing else: https://www.sliger.com/products/rackmount/4u/cx4170a/. For a $100 more, there's a near-identical silverstone that gets two 80mm exhaust on the back. The other option would be to grab this and just sit it on a shelf with some rack ears: https://www.silverstonetek.com/en/product/info/computer-chassis/GD11/
This being said, I've seen like 4 different people cram 4090s into the first case and they all seemed to be fine (one can jerry-rigged a couple fans in the back somehow). Any thoughts?
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>>102332754
its a totally new pc, dont have all the parts yet
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>>102332792
all you need is a motherboard, power supply and a usb drive
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>>102332808
power supply arrives on the 12th. i have a power supply but its in this pc im typing on. was going to install the "W10 Enterprise IoT LTSC 2021" from the friendly windows thread.
it doesnt mention bios update so just wondering if thats a priority thing, like as soon as windows is installed?
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>>102332212
>>102332225
>>102332298
Why are PS5 and Xbox just soulless AMD APU now? What happened to the days of wild, custom hardware architectures?

Saturn has a dual-CPU architecture and eight processors. Sega of Japan's Katana for Dreamcast. Emotion Engine is the PS2's CPU and Gecko is the GameCube's CPU.

Console exclusives were developed exclusively for a specific hardware and platform, developers used to optimize games specifically for consoles exotic architectures. It's a well known fact that hardware limitations are a good thing when it comes to video games, because it forces developers to be creative and optimize their work.
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>>102332840
update the bios before you put the cpu in
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>ROG CROSSHAIR X670E HERO
>7800X3D
>7900 XTX
>G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 96GB DDR5 6800MHz
>SAMSUNG 990 PRO 4TB
>SAMSUNG 990 PRO 4TB

Did I do good bros?
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>>102332840
don't install iot it's broken
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>>102332846
>>102332859
fug this is gettign alot more complicated lol
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>>102332645
7800x3d uses 35-65w in games
The 14700k uses 80-180w
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>>102332857
No
you aren't getting your if to 2200
you don't need a 2000W vrm with a 65W cpu
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>>102332857
>G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 96GB DDR5 6800MHz
no because that kit is not running in gear 1 mode
scale it down to like 6400-6200
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>>102332874
>>102332886
I thought 6000MHz was ideal for the 7800x3D
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>>102332871
Why is this general full of AMD shills?

14th gen stomps on 7800X3D and 7950X3D.
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Why are there no Samsung 990 8TB?
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>>102332896
new AGESA can do 6200 pretty reliably and 6400 if you're lucky
6000 on DDR5 is the same as 3600 on DDR4 (you don't need more if you don't know what you're doing)
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>>102332896
you got a 6800 kit
>>102332906
in the degradation benchmark?
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>>102332906
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>>102332784
gib opinions now
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>>102332859
which windows should i use then?

https://rentry.org/windowsinstallguide
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>>102332952
Normal Windows 11?
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>>102332906
>Power consumption (higher is better)
Intel shills see things differently huh
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Why is AMD in every console now?

>PS4
>PS5
>SteamDeck
>Xbox 360
>Xbox One
>Xbox Series X
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>>102332952
windowds 10, ltsc, windows 11, ltsc, linux
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>>102332845
It's just money. A custom architecture might be cheaper per unit but actually doing the development, or farming it out, is insanely expensive nowadays. The bean counters run the numbers and decide x86 is cheaper overall. No doubt there's deals cut between the firms involved whereby they get a lower price if they both use the same basic architecture.
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THANK YOU ASUS FOR THE DOLLAR STORE PASTE
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>>102332975
sorry i know i sound dumb. i dont have 11 or have ever tried it, but is IoT LTSC different from regular LTSC?
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>>102333009
you install ltsc and massgravel will change it to iot ltsc anyway for hwid
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>>102332970
nvideo takes le epic nintendo switch
nbrodias we winning
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>>102332845
Having a stable architecture is good for software backwards compatibility
What better choice do they have than cheap consumer amd64 with a good track record of backwards compatibility
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>>102333007
is this after repasting or before? Looks good for before repasting honestly
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Prove you're not a NVIDIA bootlicker

Say something nice about AMD GPUs
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>>102333029
before, i havent got around to it yet

delta was less than 10 ootb
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>NVIDIA, Intel and AMD only exist because of a public funded power utility that makes power in silicone valley way cheaper than the rest of California

Western bros.. did we win?
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>>102332164
Running at 10000MT/s won't do shit. You still get mogged by 5 year old discrete gpu in memory bandwith. There are other limitations for igpu but memory bandwith has to be the main one.
GPU and igpu performance will continue to bifurcate even more as cpus and gpus continue to specialize in their own use cases. I'm pretty sure this has been the trend all along. If someone disagrees please tell. I think the difference between gpu and igpu today is much larger than lets say 10 years ago.
People wishing for powerful igpu will continue to be disappointed.
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>>102332141
why do people get so irrationality angry when you talk about RAM overclocking? fast RAM makes your computer faster, just like a faster processor makes your computer faster
if you don't see the utility in that, stick to your 2500K
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>>102333098
They are under the false pretense that ram speed doesn't matter and don't know that CPU advancements in the last 20 years have been about hiding the memory speed gap (prefetch, caches, pipelining etc.)
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Space Marine 2 max settings (with dlss quality) at 1440p

I've been saying the 4080 is a 1440 card since I got it over a year ago

lmao at 12GB vramlets
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>>102333155
the only platform where memory SPEED truly doesn't matter is AM5, because the IF link to a single CCD maxes out at ~70 GB/s (= DDR4-4400)
you still need to tune your timings, XMP/EXPO slop is always going to be terrible no matter what kit you buy
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>>102332491
>12 p cores
default PL2 watts?
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>>102333056
1. dlss fomo btfo by afmf2
2. nobody here works on their pc but even if they did, if they can afford nvideo they could afford 7900gre/xt/xtx and overpower any minor performance humps their glorified spreadsheet has with rdna
3. adrenaline>>>>geforce shitsperience
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>>102332602
*an AMD
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>>102333155
they read an article 12 years ago on tomshardware where they tested 1600 jedec vs 1866 xmp and now spread it as gospel
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>>102332070
I'm tempted to put a pre-order in for a Core u7 265K right now since I'm a leaf
I could always cancel if the reviews end up showing it not matching a 7800X3D but I'm worried if the reviews do end up like that, retailers will immediately jack up the price of 7800X3D as they have with Zen 5's flop of a release
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>>102333219
what are you gonna do with only 8 threads
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>>102333205
you right, sorry
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>>102332906
>14th gen
13th and 14th gen CPUs are so bad Intel had to lay off 15% of its workforce
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>>102332970
cuz they have the best iGPUs
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>>102332784
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>>102333064
I'm confused, isn't it totally passable? I'm not familiar with 40 series thermals
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>>102333212
they also think the D15 is the greatest cooler, the H212 is a good budget option and arctic silver is a good thermal paste.
they're also rusted on nvidia and intel users.
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What do you bros do with your old AM2 or AM3 PCs?
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>>102333302
Garage sale.
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>>102333302
nothing
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>>102333302
ewaste, the absolute best case scenario they're usable as a windows XP machine.
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>>102333291
i got off lightly compared to some

https://www.igorslab.de/en/cause-and-reasons-revealed-hotspot-problems-on-many-newer-graphics-cards-due-to-inferior-thermal-paste/
https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/graphics-cards/nvidias-third-party-rtx-40-series-gpus-are-losing-performance-over-time-thanks-to-rubbish-factory-installed-thermal-paste/

it's a problem because the throttle temperature to stop the silicon from completely cooking itself is based on the aggregate temperature, and if the paste is THIS bad and the deltas can be that out of control then it means that it runs a risk of damage in my opinion

i have seen people with 70 core aggregate and 110+ hot spot, which is beyond fucked
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What are the absolute GOAT CPUs and GPUs relative to the year they released?
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>>102333289
sticking consumer shit on a rack is doomed from the start, you seem to imply that yourself, there's no magic (you) to fix it

ofc you can jerryrig it and maybe 3d print shit and make something yourself but no one here is going to be able to help you design and fabricate that, or read the plans off your mind (it only seems there are mind-readers itt because all nvidiots were emailed the same shill script)
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>>102333180
>AM5
>DDR4
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>>102333344
Athlon XP 2500+
i5-2500k
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>>102333338
btw that's true of anything 775 and before too, its just too old.
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>>102333344
1080ti, 5800X3D
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>>102333359
yes, the infinity fabric on zen 4/zen 5 runs at DDR4 speeds
AMD needs to fix that shit instead of adding 10% IPC and 5% clock speed every generation
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>>102333344
athlon 64 3200+
6600gt
q6600
hd5850
9800gtx
560ti
i5 2500k/3570k
1080ti/1060 6g/1050ti low profile, RX580
5800x3d

gpus since pascal have just been a scam though
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>>102333384
>1080ti, 5800X3D

Explain these
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>>102333401
can you say what your flagship setup is/was
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>>102333401
1080ti still has relevant performance today
5800X3D brought current gen performance to the AM4 socket and extended the life of AM4 for at least another five years
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>>102333344
2022 - rtx4090
2023 - 7800x3d
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>>102333076
the future is small PCs with low power consumption. When you factor in those, then iGPUs mog dGPUs.
Look at what Apple is doing with their desktop chips. Or what cellphones can do with their chips powered off a battery that fits in your pocket.
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>>102333340
Thanks for the links, I really hadn't heard about this issue yet.

I guess yours is only "fine for now". I'm assuming you haven't gone through enough thermal cycles to get pump out and noticeable TIM performance degradation? Do you know if this affect all AIBS/Radeon?

I just repasted a few older NVIDIA cards and the difference is massive from the one I haven't repasted (repasted delta=8ºC, OEM=15.3ºC), so it's probably not a completely new problem.
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>>102333482
the future is thin clients streaming video from the cloud. get in the pod, igpu low power shill
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>>102333453
>5800X3D brought current gen performance to the AM4 socket and extended the life of AM4 for at least another five years

What's the verdict on AM5 so far?
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>>102333344
PowerPC G3
VooDoo 5 5500
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>>102333499
7000 good
9000 mid
better on linux
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>>102333499
if too slow
core 2 duo vibes
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>>102333510
infinity fabric
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>>102333356
Insane redditors seem to disagree, and the HTPC isn't *that* much worse off than a normal case...
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What is the last great GPU supported for Windows 7?
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>>102333490
>I guess yours is only "fine for now"
Yeah, ive been keeping an eye on it with benchmarks every month or so and it's been creeping up since i got it and ive had it for well over a year. I had been wondering if I had caused the problem somehow, but it seems this is the cause. I'll be repasting it by the end of the year probably
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>>102333499
7800x3d is really good
huge generational upgrade over the 5800x3d but requires a new motherboard and ram
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>>102333498
iGPUs and the cloud have nothing to do with each other. take your meds
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>>102332045

What would you say is the best GPU to pair with an
i7 8700
H310m s2p
16gb ram
550w psu

If I had maybe $400aud to spend? What are my best options for both new and used?
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>>102333567
>used
rx6800 probably
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>>102333553
the logical conclusion of igpu low power supremacy is thin client cloud hive praising the machine god
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>>102333567
buy a used rtx 2060 super
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Hey,
Currently I have a gaming laptop:
Intel i9 14900HX
Nvidia 4080
32gb of DDR5
2 4tb NVME drives

It's on its way out, i've had 3 new motherboards from the manufacturer and they all died the same, long, slow, degredation like death. I've got it under a store warranty that gives me a gift card for it. Saying that,

I'm in the US. My budget is 2500 dollars. I have 2 1440p monitors but i'd like another monitor of some kind to replace the built in laptop display. I have a mouse and keyboard, and i'd be reusing my nvme drives. I was thinking of going linux for this one because of how awful my windows 11 experience has been, so I heard AMD gpus were good for that, but correct me if i'm wrong. The CPU has to be AMD. These recent intel cpus have been nothing but shit for me.
I play a lot of games, only at 1440p but at the budget i have i'd like to have the option to play any game at 4k max settings. I do some video editing and productivity things. I record and stream on occasion for tournaments I run.
Thanks in advance, let me know if you need any more information.
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>>102333527
I don't think it's going to end up cheaper or more practical than a high end workstation case, but if you're doing it to save on floor space by using a rack you already have, go for it.

My honest suggestion is that you look into deshrouding and ducting the 4090 you plan to put in there so you don't end up with an extra oven in the office.
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I am tired of thinking. Someone just give me a beefy build that'll last a decade.
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>>102333499
Zen4 was good but it made Intel lose their goddamned mind.
7800X3D is amazing, Zen5 is mid but the 9950X is the best multicore consumer cpu at the moment for those who need something like that (99% of people don't). we're waiting to see what Zen5X3D will be like.
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>>102333610
Wait for the 9950X3D and 5090
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>>102333586
>i'd like to have the option to play any game at 4k max settings
4090 is almost the entirety of your budget and the only gpu that fits that bill

good luck
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>>102333539
In terms of official driver support the RTX 3000 series, so the 3090 Ti would be the most powerful GPU able to accelerate Windows Aero.
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>>102333626
So bros why did Vista get so much hate when it released?
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>>102333586
>falling for the gayming laptop meme
>falling for the HIGH END gayming laptop meme
those things need special elevated positions and fans blowing in them or else they will cook themselves/set your desk/bed/pants on fire like yours did

bet all that lead free solder fucking ate shit as well as the shitty intelaviv rusting cpu
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>>102333634
extreme bloat in an era of 1GB of ram and 1-2 core cpus
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>>102333623
I'm replacing a broken desktop so I can't really wait around unless I wanna do all my work on my shitty thinkpad. I like streaming games, too, and that's basically impossible now.
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>>102333625
Well if that's the case, I'm fine with the 4080 or its amd equivalent

>>102333642
I have all that, and yeah i know it was a dumb purchase
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>>102333610
>last a decade
Do you only mean physically work for a decade or actually mean "play games at settings acceptable to you" for a decade?
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>State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
>>102333610
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZpwdpB
I'm doing my good deed for today, enjoy anon.
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>>102333700
Your list sucks man
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>>102333707
provide useful criticism
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>>102333700
>7900XTX
>last a decade while RT becomes increasingly prevalent
Not really a good deed
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bros how badly did I fuck up in ordering my AM5 parts? I'll have to cope hard with RAM overclocking limitations compared to DDR4, not to mention the long boot times. Fuck everyone who shilled for AM5 and new Ryzens, now there's no backing out I should have gone with a 10900k
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>>102333692
Both but I do not have super strict requirements on the latter nor expect people to predict weird unforeseeable trends in how games will run. I have been rocking a GTX 1080 until this day.

>>102333700
This is close to what I was considering already. Thank you for the feedback.

>>102333711
I've honestly been thinking of just using my old GPU until the next gen comes out to see what happens with the market.
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>>102333709
meme oversized cooler
overkill board from the worst brand
17 year powe suply
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>>102333586
4080, b650e, 7800x3d + thermalright ps120se, 2x16g c30 6000, 750w psu

should leave you enough money for an nvme drive and fans if you're a burger? idk get a case with fans off craigslist kek
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>>102333711
>oh boy this 4090 sure is going to last me a decade
>connector melts
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>>102333726
noctua will last 10 years
psu will last 10 years

ill accept msi is mid motherboard maker
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>>102333727
>should leave you enough money for an nvme drive and fans if you're a burger?
I don't need nvme drives like i said. I have a bunch of fans too actually, didn't think of that. How does that 7900 XTX stack up against the 4080 btw?
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>>102333740
>noctua will last 10 years
Every air cooler lasts 10 years if you just leave it in place
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>>102333740
all air coolers will last ten years, what is this meme
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>>102333750
>>102333758
What are the absolute GOAT air coolers
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I really do wonder why horizontal cases became so niche, especially with how stupidly big and heavy GPUs are getting.
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>>102333740
MSI isn't even remotely mid. They have better boards in general compared to Gigabyte/Aorus. It's a tiny market anyway you either go Asus or you go for MSI and Gigabyte. Asrock isn't available everywhere and idk about any 5th biggest manufacturer of motherboards.
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>>102333740
meme 3d cpu
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>>102333762
it's the nh-d15, all pushback against it is poorfag copium desu. Noctua fans and bearings will outlast others too and it comes with a full 6 year warranty
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>>102333775
Is Asrock actually good? I've never heard of the name until recently and their boards tend to be fairly low price so I assumed they were some cheapskate no-name brand.
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>>102333779
What's wrong with Thermalright Frost Commander 140, Deepcool Assassin IV, etc?
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>>102333787
they're asus but for poors
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>>102333762
NHD12S if you want Noctua
Assassin 4S/AK620 from Deepcool for non burgers
Phantom Spirit from Thermalright
possibly upcoming vapor chamber model from Deepcool or the Royal Pretor Ultra from Thermalright
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>>102333744
7900xtx doesnt have cuda or tensor cores

it uses fsr instead of dlss
its rt and blender performance is poor compared to 4080
ofc if you want to mess around with ai like llm/local diffusion the 4080 is better for that too

in raw raster it is on par with 4080 or even slightly better in some cases and has more vram headroom, but it is more power hungry and you will have to get an 850w psu for it

because of the 4080's 16G vram it needs dlss on to make 4k work too. It's a 1440p card >>102333169
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>>102333779
cope retard the D15S is far more practical than the D15
>>102333787
Yeah they're good I saw the buildzoid guy use a cheap one to OC perfectly
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Frankly I kinda fuckin hate RT and tensor memery but if all games in the future decide to hop on nvidias cock then fuck me I guess I'll play along
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>Ryzen 7 3700X and an RX5700 which are roughly equivalent to a PS5.

Why doesn't Sony just put a 9800X3D and 8900 XTX in the PS6?
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>>102333792
For most builds, nothing.

Just not the same QA and warranties that you'd want for a build that's meant to last a decade. Is there anything wrong with chrysler fiat cars? Not really. Would you want one as a workhorse? No, you'd pay the slight toyota premium.
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>>102333821
>NVIDIA
Better for high end
>AMD
Better for mid to low end
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>>102333700
>679 estimated wattage
>750W PSU
Were the "You need 1.5x overhead" people lying to me?
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>>102333837
the estimated wattage on pcpartpicker is alwats inflated af
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>>102333837
unless you plan to run prime95 small ffts and render your gaping asshole in 8k at the same time on an unearthed brazilian wall plug you'll be fine
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>>102333837
yes
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>>102333813
I'm sure that practicality will come in great when the original poster stated they just want it to work for a decade
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>>102333837
i think that much overhead is a meme, but for a 7900xtx i would definitely go for 850w just for the efficiency gains
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>>102333787
best for am5, ok for am4, bad for am3+
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>>102333731
>oh boy this 2080ti sure is going to last me a decade
Fix'd
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>>102332845
imagine how many games would PS5 have without backward compatibility with PS4. Games are just too expensive to sustain custom architecture
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>>102333964
Why did the PS3 Cell get so much hate?
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>>102333731
You know one would assume a $1,600 card would easily last 10 years but it’s not like that. These cards are for people who can just buy them, they’re not long term investments. The 20 series was their revolutionary ray tracing card and it can’t even do ray tracing. Besides, once some meme technology comes out it won’t matter what card you have. When DirectX 11 released it didn’t matter how expensive your little DirectX 10 paperweight was.
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>>102333837
big watt psus have 10 to 12 year warranty, need to spin the fan less, coil whine less
I think you are mostly buying peace of mind. You can't cant reduce it to single variable like fps/dollar@1440p
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>>102334157
People didn't really know how to program for largely parallel machines back then, and other aspects of the PS3's architecture meant that it still lagged behind the 360. It's not that it was "hated," but it was seen as a meme. The stupid high price of the console contributed to this further.
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>>102333787
theyre crap. theres options in the BIOS that literally do nothing. I was so frustrated when i set a top frequency limit in the bios, but the computer kept just going to its max stock frequency. got rid of the board cuz i was sick of dealing with it. find out a couple years later asrock often uses a single interface, so boards that are less featureful just ignore the options if you choose them
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>>102334209
PS2 and PS3 still aren't perfectly emulatable
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>>102334314
PS2 and PS3 used a different floating point encoding than IEEE, so I imagine fucker with that is what is happening here? I think the PS3 emulator can do a pretty damn good job handling it now.
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>>102332045
Build advice plx post:
In America, budget is flexible if it needs to be, but I'm spiritually jewish and $1500 dollars is already causing me mild indigestion. The use case is indyshit tier Unreal Engine development, and related software (e.g. Blender). I will obviously not be making Skyrimberpunk 2077: Tears of the Erdtree with this. Regarding monitors, I've got a couple 1080p monitors from over a decade ago that are probably fine. If I need to upgrade, that bridge will be crossed when I come to it.

What I've pieced together is this: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cLxJjH

I wanted to run it by others to double check
1.) Any red flags that I'm too dumb to notice?
2.) Any blatant improvements/better compatibility with parts that wouldn't break the bank? I might be able to be talked into a beefier AMD processor (I'm aware recent Intel chips a SHIT), BUT various places found via Google suggested a Ryzen 9 5950x plows through UE5 just fine. And I'd rather not have to liquid cool whatever processor I get. I also see very little reason to make the GPU 50% of the final cost when it sounds like a 16 GB 4060 will be plenty adequate.
3.) Any obvious cost reduction options that wouldn't dent performance? I am pretty sure I cheaped out to the greatest extent possible already.

I appreciate any help.
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>>102333964
But, in a way; Sony could make even more money by releasing PS5 remasters of PS4 games. It was pretty funny in their PS5 Pro reveal how they kept showing improvements to games that were from the PS4 era.
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>>102332045
I am straight up not having a good time with my fucking 7900XT on warhammer space marine 2. Fucking nightmare of a graphics card. Driver timeout in the exact same spot. I thought ayyymd would have fixed it by now. It's strange because I can play other games just fine. I refuse to turn down the settings to lower resolution because why the fuck should I.
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>>102334366
7000 series has had timeout issues in almost every single AAA release since 2022
AMD shipped broken silicon again and refuses to admit it
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>>102334366
>he fell for the Radeon meme
We told you about AyyMD
We fucking told you
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>>102334366
>he ACTUALLY BELIEVED that AyyMD drivers were "fixed"
BWAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>102334366
Sounds like a (You) problem as my XTX is running the game fine.
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>>102334366
>>102334384
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>>102334411
what an organic series of posts!
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>new parts arriving today, tomorrow and Friday in time for a weekend build
feels good man
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>>102334430
>AMTroon damage control
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i have set my budget for my next PC at $8k AUD
when are the 5000 series Nvidia and Zen 5 X3D coming out?
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>>102334430
i have a friend with an XTX, he blackscreens on every single new release
meanwhile i'm on 6000 series with the exact same drivers and no issues
this leads me to conclude that AMD shipped broken silicon again (like 5000 series) and refuses to admit it because it would require a massive recall
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>even the topmost AM5 boards have only 4 PCIE slots at most
>usually effectively 2 free slots once you plug in a big GPU that occludes one of the slots
where did it all go so wrong?
a decade ago even poorfag boards would have 5-6 slots
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>>102334506
the cpus have 28 pcie lanes
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>>102334506
Sli and crossfire dying killed the need for multiple pcie slots
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>>102334506
>2x16
>1x1
>That's fucking it
Part of the answer is the PCI lanes are going to the m2 slots instead, though.
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>>102334461
spend 4k on pc, 4k on peripherals
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>>102334506
cause the gpus now take 3
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>>102334559
i already have top end peripherals
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>RTX 4090
>1080p 60hz monitor
oh yeah it's gaming time
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>>102334583
you already spent 30k on peripherals?
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>>102334425
nice jaggies and ground textures
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>>102334342
> I've got a couple 1080p monitors from over a decade ago that are probably fine. If I need to upgrade, that bridge will be crossed when I come to it.
1080p at 24" is below passable in 2024 but if you already own them, it'd be understandable as a cost savings. Are they just 60Hz?

>3.) Any obvious cost reduction options that wouldn't dent performance? I am pretty sure I cheaped out to the greatest extent possible already.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-9-9950x/9.html
For rendering applications such as Blender, the 13700KF is a bit faster and a bit cheaper than the 5950X. Also DDR4-3600CL18 is the same performance wise as DDR4-3200 CL16 and the latter rated kits tend to be cheaper.

You don't need to spend $180 for a quality mobo either:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cX92FT/msi-mag-b760-tomahawk-wifi-ddr4-atx-lga1700-motherboard-mag-b760-tomahawk-wifi-ddr4
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QJC48d/asrock-b760m-steel-legend-wifi-micro-atx-lga1700-motherboard-b760m-steel-legend-wifi
Both options are pretty feature rich for the same price but make sure they fit your personal requirements for the system (I chose the MSI version as it had an extra PCIe slot).

The difference between NVMEs isn't noticeable in real world applications if this isn't a datacenter. Note that 2x2TB drives would save you about $14 but that's up to you and I'm assuming you KNOW you'll need that much SSD capacity.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Dpgrxr/leven-jps600-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-30-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-jps600-2tb
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2BvD4D/silicon-power-ud90-4-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-sp04kgbp44ud9005

New GPUs are a bad deal right now and I'd honestly suggest buying used:
https://bestvaluegpu.com/
^Looks like a scam site but constantly tracks new/used pricing vs. performance for value.
That said I upgraded you to a new 4070 for less money than that *60 Ti.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wZ4cWt
^Better performance & $170 saved
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How bad does this suck? I have no idea how to pick out motherboards outside of just looking at the ports etc. https://pcpartpicker.com/product/szfxFT/msi-b650-gaming-plus-wifi-atx-am5-motherboard-b650-gaming-plus-wifi
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>>102334634
>New GPUs are a bad deal right now and I'd honestly suggest buying used:
The used prices I have been seeing recently are hardly any better.
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>>102332045
Why should i get a Arctic liquid freezer 3 AIO over a NZXT AIO?
can someone tell me how it ranks above it and other common AIOs like Corsair iCUE H150i Elite?
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>>102334645
go with asrock b650 if you don't know what to get
they're the safe choice this gen with no bad boards and the best bios
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>>102334645
For the price and feature-set (Integrated WiFi Support) it's not bad. However, checking competing options at the same price I'd go with the ASRock B650M Pro RS WiFi like >>102334681 mentioned that has an extra M.2 slot for more NVME support as well as an extra USB 3.2 header by comparison and see equal otherwise.
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/qcbRsY,szfxFT/
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it should be a crime to put wifi in a desktop motherboard
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>>102334624
yeah
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>>102334557
I look like this
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>>102334724
i have no ethernet cable to my gaming room THOUGH
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>>102334724
Wi-Fi? Yeah. But the bluetooth that comes with it?
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>>102334744
user error

>>102334745
with usb-c hubs there are no excuses
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>>102334430
guilty conscience of your spamming samefagging past ?
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>>102334673
Right now for the price & performance the Thermalright Frozen Prism which is basically a match for Notte in the graph in current hotness beating the LFIII coolers.
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/liquid-cooling/arctic-liquid-freezer-iii-aio-review/2
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/99XV3C/thermalright-frozen-prism-704-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-frozen-prism-360-black
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Any recommendations/advice on getting monitor stands? I got two monitors and their stands are taking space on my desk and I wanna change that.
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>>102334730
which? sound system? vr, hotas, pedals, frame + chair, avionics consoles, steering wheel, gear shifter?

honestly i think for real top of the line you're looking at a lot more than 30k if you count the sound system with the floor standing speakers and the oled tv plus the vr shit and your primary monitor, keyboard and mouse, and headphones + microphone
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>>102334844
Basically as long as it uses a gas spring mechanism and has total weight/panel size support for your setup you can't really go wrong. You can watch these (maybe at 2X speed) as a good starting point:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4hcvSoPrp8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyEXnLWzIjU
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sirs i bought montech air 903 max case and now im wondering if it wasnt a mistake
what are the chances of the tempered glass just randomly (or not) breaking on me i feel like after assembling i will in constant fear of glass breaking
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Is this a good long-term PC? I can spend around $1500 on PC if it's going to last for at least 5 years, otherwise I'd rather buy something cheaper.
I plan on installing Linux so if the RX has some driver issues I'll switch to Nvidia.
Mainly used for Vidya, will probably try some graphic stuff but I'll need to see how it works on the freetard OS
>CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
>GPU: Gigabyte GAMING OC Radeon RX 7700 XT 12 GB
>Mobo: ASRock B650M-HDV/M2
As far as I can tell, the PSU, cooler, case, SSD, RAM are more or less a constant factor.
Also, what's the current take on AMD vs Intel?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QvKzBL
>Yes, I picked the recommended parts
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>>102334965
>what are the chances of the tempered glass just randomly (or not) breaking on me i feel like after assembling i will in constant fear of glass breaking
Highly unlikely:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VF_uKfOJSgA
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>>102334965
>what are the chances of the tempered glass just randomly
if you think it's gonna break it will. also if your PC over heats, it'll be even more susceptible to breaking apart.
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>even AMDUnboxed is now dooming that Zen5 is a total stillbirth
it's over amdsisters...
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>>102335014
you don't really need to buy the 7800X3D for a five year build, the 7700 will be fine
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>>102334744
should use a usb wifi card via a usb cable
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>>102335110
no, you run an ethernet cable out the window or around the perimeter of the room(s) to the router, or under the floor/through the attic is better if you can do that
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>>102334634
>2080 ti
>$1300
seems legit
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>>102334866
Thanks. I'm gonna try to get the ones that don't have a C Clamp since my desk doesn't have that kind of space.
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GTX 900 SERIES

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950 - 2 GB, GDDR5, 128 bit
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960 - 2 GB, GDDR5, 128 bit
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 - 4 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 - 4 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti - 6 GB, GDDR5, 384 bit

GTX 1000 SERIES

NVIDIA GeForce GT 1030 - 2 GB, GDDR5, 64 bit
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Ti - 8 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 - 8 GB, GDDR5X, 256 bit
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti - 11 GB, GDDR5X, 352 bit

GTX 1600 SERIES

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER - 4 GB, GDDR6, 128 bit
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti - 6 GB, GDDR6, 192 bit
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER - 6 GB, GDDR6, 192 bit

RTX 2000 SERIES

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 - 8 GB GDDR6
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER - 8 GB GDDR6
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 - 8 GB GDDR6
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER - 8 GB GDDR6
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti - 11 GB GDDR6

RTX 3000 SERIES

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB - 12 GB, GDDR6, 192 bit
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti - 8 GB, GDDR6, 256 bit
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 - 10 GB, GDDR6X, 320 bit
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 12 GB - 12 GB, GDDR6X, 384 bit
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti - 12 GB, GDDR6X, 384 bit
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 20GB - 20 GB, GDDR6X, 320 bit
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 - 24 GB, GDDR6X, 384 bit
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti - 24 GB, GDDR6X, 384 bit

RTX 4000 SERIES

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB - 16 GB, GDDR6, 128 bit
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER - 12 GB, GDDR6X, 192 bit
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER - 16GB VRAM
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 - 16 GB, GDDR6X, 256 bit
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER - 16 GB, GDDR6X, 256 bit
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 - 24 GB, GDDR6X, 384 bit

Which did you have bros?
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>>102335063
>is now
you must've missed release day
and then them putting out a new video every day up to now saying the exact same thing
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>>102334744
You can wire a house for ethernet just like you have electrical sockets in every room...
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>>102335129
i mean if you need wifi then the wifi should be received by a wifi card not on board wifi not pcie wifi but usb wifi and the usb wifi should not be plugged right into a usb port but the usb wifi should be connected via a usb cable
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>>102335140
4070 ti currently but plan to dual use two 4090s cuz i want a powerhouse just for the fun of it
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>>102335014
You didn't pick the correct memory. It should say
>DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory
You can do without the 7800X3D, driving the cost down to JUST $1000.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DLsdpB
Alternatively, you can max out the budget for $1575 with a 7800X3D and blazing fast 7900 XT.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YpHPMV

AMD is the leading manufacturer of gaming CPU's these days. They are cheaper and more performant.
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>>102334324
I still have no idea why the SPUs in the PS2/PS3 didn't support NaN/Inf. Couldn't just use IEEE 754?
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>>102335221
No inf is weird but I can see why they'd think NaN is irrelevant for games. Getting rid of them adds more valid values for actual numbers.
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>>102335033
what about it randomly breaking?
>>102335056
should I just buy a non-glass case? are there even cases like that all recomended ones i see are with glass
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>>102335254
stress on the edges are what will cause it to break
if you're paranoid about it just avoid glass cases, most fractal cases have options for solid side panels
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>>102334860
no i have 26 different types of automatic masturbator
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>>102335158
come over and do it for me then
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>>102335423
avx10 isn't ready for another 2-3 intel generations
you will have avx2 and you will be happy
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>>102335161
you should never need wifi with a desktop. you have a fundamental misunderstanding of networking and computer if you think using wifi with a desktop is acceptable in ANY scenario

you MUST have at least 30m of spare ethernet on hand at ALL TIMES
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>>102335158
you dont even need to do that, you can just run a cable around the walls of any rooms you need to
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>>102335221
>>102335247
PS2 Emotion Engine and PS3 CELL were nightmares for programmers. the only people who actually got to use it to its full potential were Naughty Dog. People also forget that the reason Sony was so insistent on pushing their custom in the PS2 and PS3 was because they had plans to license out the Emotion Engine and Cell technology for other uses beyond video game consoles.

Kutaragi wanted the PS3 to ship with 1 cell as a cpu and 1 cell as a gpu. Mark Cerny is fucking insane for STILL having only himself know exactly how the PS3 worked and never sharing it with anyone aside from those secret CELL developers at Sony.

They were either falling behind in development, or realized that this was utter fucking stupidity, so they went plan B and asked Nvidia to give them whatever was their best chip at the time, bolted it on, and shipped it.

Mark Cerny wanted PS4 and PS5 to be AMD APUs because it was cheapest and easiest for programmers

FX-8350 @2GHz, a HD 7850 and a 5000 RPM hard drive are roughly equivalent to a PS4.

Ryzen 7 3700X and an RX5700 which are roughly equivalent to a PS5.
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My favorite part about the PS2 is how architecturally similar it is to the Saturn, which they ABSOLUTELY shat on.
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>PS5 Pro is $1200 dollarydoos
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>>102335534
>AUD

Lmao
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>>102335534
>ONE THING
>WITHOUT A DRIVE
>I BOUGHT A PS5 WITH NO GAMES TO BUY
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bros, help
I watched two "installing CPU" videos and none of them had the guy applying thermal paste
It's a ASUS TUF Z790-PLUS motherboard + i7 12700K processor
What do I do
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>>102335593
google "how to apply thermal paste"
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>>102335593
pea. sized.
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>>102335593
do a thin X

>>102335615
this was dumb advice even when it was relevant
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>>102335477
I don't know why, but calling a chip the Emotion Engine is incredibly sovlful
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>>102335603
>>102335615
>>102335624
Thanks bros I'm actually shaking right now
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>>102335140
My last Nvidia GPU was the GTX 260
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>>102335635
i honestly just pre-spread it with some scrap plastic, and have good results
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>>102335635
bro it literally doesn't matter as long as its hitting more than half of the cpu its chillin
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Jelly?
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what's the performance hit i take going for 6000mhz CL32 instead of CL30 on a 7600x?
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Thanks, broheim. I want to specifically avoid the 13th gen Intel processors due to the ongoing shitshow at Intel, but the other recommendations sound good. I'll try to scope out a slightly cheaper motherboard with the AM4 chipset too.
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>>102335763
if 1440p or above prolly like 1%

1-5% if 1080p maybe idk
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>>102335763
1%
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What do you guys think of my sub-$1000 mini workstation?

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bFmXTY

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7900 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor ($368.19 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright AXP90-X47 42.58 CFM CPU Cooler ($20.90 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($120.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($319.99 @ Newegg)
Case: In Win Chopin MAX Mini ITX Desktop Case w/200 W Power Supply ($129.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $959.06
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-09-11 08:23 EDT-0400
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>>102335763
Like 3% at worst. Not enough to stress over unless you can get CL30 for a reasonable price.
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>>102335770
>Thanks, broheim. I want to specifically avoid the 13th gen Intel processors due to the ongoing shitshow at Intel, but the other recommendations sound good. I'll try to scope out a slightly cheaper motherboard with the AM4 chipset too.
NP. Now that the Microcode update is out as long as you flash your BIOS immediately post-assembly, building with a fresh new un-degraded 13th Gen Intel chip is no longer a problem.
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>>102335671
>>102335755
Holy shit I thought you had to apply thermal paste in the yellow part
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>>102333877
practical for getting it to fit without banging into the GPU, the D15S is no less durable than the D15.
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>>102335477
> its always ze developers
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>>102335770
I feel like a cuck going for AMD now. I could have enjoyed my 8 second boot times on Intel.
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>>102335807
>building with a fresh new un-degraded 13th Gen Intel chip is no longer a problem.
and how exactly did you simulate 5 years worth of use in 3 weeks?
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>>102335879
Reminder that Balmer only made Xbox because they feared PS2
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>>102332045
People say Honeywell Ptm7950 on AliExpress are all fake. Is that true? Are there any genuine sellers?
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makes me sad that we cant just buy a set of components that are a "phone" or a "pc" or "tv" and we all just make it work
cars are literally modular.
why cant i have a phone with 120hz display with 1 camera and a gorillion hours of battery with as slim as the battery can be
holy fuck
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>>102336002
starts with j and ends with s
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>>102336002
technically android is meant to do that
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>>102335969
LTT Store, Moddiy, Corn Electronics from Newegg/Amazon.
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>>102335969
Probably bullshit take, based on general mistrust of any chink sites/sellers, so thats understandable.
I can say though that i bought some upsiren pcm-1 from aliexpress which supposedly performs just as well as ptm7950 and i've had no issues with it; performance upgrade was within expectations.
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Day 524 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.
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>>102336108
its je"sus" fault
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are dual chamber cases good?
bought a new keyboard recently and pic related (corsair 6500x) caught my eye since I was thinking about getting a new case to make sure a new card fits
so viable or just a meme?
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>buy a new case
its gonna be here this week and i will be able to assemble my pc over the weekend
no chances of glass breaking
have to spend money again
>use montech air 903 max
dont have to spend money again
probably going to get it next week
chance of glass breaking and destroying my pc
what do I do bros?
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>>102336337
>are dual chamber cases good?
they are good, just not the corsair one. consider the antec c8 or the hyte y40/y60
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>>102336337
I don't think they're memes but obviously being that they take more horizontal space they're a bit of a nuisance on a desk. Which is weird because they're made not to tuck under it.
I'm not expert at airflow or whatever, so I don't know if it'd be less beneficial to have a narrower case.
On that note I replaced my Phanteks P300A with a Lancool 216 and good lord this thing is a behemoth. I didn't think the P300A was that small, and now I'm learning this is supposed to be the average sized case. Very easy to build on but it's weird how fan configurations other than default either do dick or make things worse, now I have spare fans that I won't use and a GPU that still takes it in the ass

>>102336353
Are you getting the Montech Air 903 max for free? What's with this "Have to spend money again" business?
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bros i have an open case cause my 4090 doesn't fit in it lmoa am i gonna be k or should i get to buzzing this glass door i have

im pretty sure i bought a corsair cable like a year ago never put it in but them niggaz aren't as safe as i thought or something?
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>>102336218
>>102335969
there is a lot of fake and clone ptm7950 out there. the real stuff is 0.25mm in thickness but the fakes are 0.20mm or less.
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Any yuropeans around?
How does ASUS cover GPU warranty?
Like let's say I want to use that cool PTM whatever (or a substitute) on my GPU, but there's that fucking sticker on one of those screws. It doesn't say "warranty void if removed". Motherfucker is just a red circle now. But it's still there. I thought they no longer did this.
Years ago people were telling me removing stickers didn't void a GPU warranty in the US, but Europeans got buttfucked. Dunno if that changed.
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>>102336477
i would just buy and use a new case instead of already paid for montech 903 air
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>>102336515
If you paid for that just get that one, don't overspend. Although you could return it, couldn't you?
Anyways more and more cases have glass panels unfortunately. It's a shame, I wish there was some non glass panel for my Lancool 206. After all the only RGB included there is in the fucking front fans anyways and I could kick the case without worrying. I heard the Air 903 is a really good case in any... case
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is it possible for a company to actually achieve backwards compatibility in 2/3 gens? like is there giga micro weird thing that is probably in all boars and they must correct it next gen or are they just doing what works

man i know the answer and it makes me sad
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>>102336512
thats not a warranty sticker. thats a tamper sticker. it lets the RMA office know the card has been opened before. if it explicitly says "warranty void if remove" then that's a warranty sticker like on some ssds. doesnt mean warranty is void. as always contact asus eu support and confirm before anything.
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>>102336536
Lancool 216*
Also I gotta say, I love the 216 but whoever designed the mechanism for taking out the glass panel needs to get a slapping. You gotta apply a little bit of force to take it out and it could just accidentally fall off.
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>>102336591
>>102336591
>>102336591
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>>102336572
I guess I'll have to ask. Previous 2 GPUs I bought used so I didn't bother with this before.
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>>102335078
>>102335211
Okay, guess I'll check the upgrade to 7900 XT at home and if it doesn't suite me I'll downgrade to cheaper CPU
And thanks for the heads-up with the memory, honestly I picked it just based on manufacturer and price range, didn't look into specifics.
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Which one?
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>>102335969
thermal grizzly phasesheet is the equivalent if you're in europe, they also sell kryosheet which is better but not recommended if your ILM and/or cooler coldplate are shit tier
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>>102336676
you already posted this last thread
it doesn't matter, you can undervolt one or overclock the other

just pick the colour you prefer
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>>102336676
I got the dark one
Honestly it's the same shit, you gotta undervolt it so it doesn't get noisy
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>>102335969
Tpcm7125
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>>102334366
Works fine with my Rx 580 2048sp
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>>102335456
sounds like you dont know how to setup wifi properly. therefore you lack a fundamental lack of networking knowledge
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Built a PC 4 months ago, everything was find (Though DDR5 with AMD slow boot wtf).
Anyway it won't power up. MOBO lights up but no case fans. CPU fan blows.
Removed the RAM, reseated it, changed them, used only one. But nothing, same issue.
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>>102337770
Known good earthing from that wall plug? Try plugging into a UPS if you have one or a plug you are 10000% certain is earthed.

You could try giving it a gentle shake, maybe some conductive debris is shorting something out. If you used conductive thermal paste maybe it pumped out onto surface mount components?
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>>102338050
oh also try changing power cables, you never know



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