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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

>CPU
Web browsing: 5600G
Budget: 12400F, 7600X
Gaming: 7800X3D
Workstation: 7900X
AVOID: Intel 13/14 series

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge/Arctic Liquid Freezer III, Hyte THICC Q60
Double towers: ID-Cooling FROZN A620 PRO SE, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67

>MOTHERBOARD
ASRock B650M-HDV/M2, B650 LiveMixer, B650 Steel Legend

>RAM
DDR4: 2x16GB 3200CL16. Budget, 2x8GB
DDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN580
Mid range: SN770
Premium: Samsung 990 Pro
Flagship: Sabrent Rocket 5

>GPU
1080p: RTX 4070 Super, RX 7700 XT
1440p: RTX 4080 Super, RX 7900 XT
4K: RTX 4090, RX 7900 XTX
Workstation: RTX 4000 Series, AVOID: AMD cards

>CASE (from $ to $$$)
mATX: Montech Air 100, Lian Li A3, Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li O11 Air Mini
ATX: Phanteks XT PRO(ULTRA), Montech AIR 903 Base/MAX, Antec C5, Lian Li Lancool 216/III
AVOID: 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, 4000D airflow

>PSU
Budget: Gold rated 500-600W PSU
Mid range: ATX 3.0 compliant fully modular gold rated PSU @ 75% max load
High end: Seasonic PRIME TX
AVOID: GAMEMAX
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/ (updated Q3 2024)

>MONITOR
1080p: KOORUI 24E3, MSI G2412F, MSI MAG 256F, MSI G244PF E2
1440p: ASRock PG27QFT2A, Dell G2724D
4K: Acer Nitro XV275K, Gigabyte M32U, Dell Alienware AW3225QF

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
High end: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)

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Remember to update your operating system right now. You need next gen OS for next gen parts.
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>>102336607
Thanks for reminding us Mrs Pooja
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>>102336607
>windows
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>>102336607
Is 24h2 out?
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buy a 7900xtx now or wait for the next gen?

also are used gpus garbage or worthwhile
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>>102336591
Realistically, could I assemble a PC in one (1) hour if I haven't done it in 10 years? I recently got a build I saw here:
>https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/GfVWxH
Everything has arrived as of yesterday, I read all the manuals, prepared all the usb drives, got all the drivers, read all the guides and videos, and have already cleaned and set the space, put down the mats and tools, and separated the PSU cables I will need.

But, I only have ~70 minutes to get it done today, because I have to leave later, but then I won't have time until Sunday. Doable or do I wait?
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>>102336704
It's doable if you don't bother with cable management
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>>102336704
what's the point of doing it if you aren't going to start overclocking and benching today
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what is the best case for temps?
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>>102336661
for oems/laptops yes.
for everyone else it still in preview.
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>>102336747
no case
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>>102336747
Lian Li Lancool II Mesh
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how is that jayz2cents so slim on his face but he has such a big fucking butt
im not sure if he can fit into a door frame
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>>102336720
>>102336745
Well, I everything is laid down already, so I didn't want to pick it all up if it wasn't really necessary, but I guess an hour is not enough to get everything done right. I'll wait until the weekend, thanks.
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>>102336794
He is a big guy
not so good at computers albeit
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>>102336688
I'm in the same boat, I think I'll pull the trigger this month but for me it's a huge upgrade (currently on a 1080Ti).
Used cards are almost always worth it if you get to inspect and test them properly, but don't expect huge savings if you're after the top GPUs.
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When 5090, I want to play 4k
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>>102336825
>for me it's a huge upgrade (currently on a 1080Ti).
I'm on a 1070, but it's been almost enough for me. I'm starting to struggle on a few games, especially since upgrading to 1440p, and the vram is limiting me...

I'm leaning towards pulling the trigger too in large part because AMD won't have a flagship this upcoming gen, but I'm still plagued by doubts: what if their new "midrange" is enough of a performance boost to compete with the XTX, just more efficient and cheaper? Or if the new nvidia cards are just massively better and actually come with VRAM, making the XTX obsolete? Or even if they still come with only 16GB, but the performance is good enough that the XTX prices drop? Argh.
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https://youtu.be/6VjYFdHMC3A
wtf i just bought ek aio cooler
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>>102336904
>1440p on a 1070
Yeah I guess that justifies the jump right now. Personally I'm sticking with 1080p forever (my eyesight is shit so there's no benefit in going further).
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A PC without a disc drive is not a real pc at all.
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>>102336933
shuldn't a bigger monitor help with bad eyesight?
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>>102336688
buy used 6000
there are rumors that 7000 is broken on hardware level
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>>102336945
a usb drive is a better disc drive
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>>102336933
>Yeah I guess that justifies the jump right now
Honestly, barely, I've been doing this for like a year and a half by now - I've just finally gotten the itch to get something better.
Which is also contributing to making me feel stupid, because if I haven't upgraded by now, I should just wait a big longer, right

>>102336950
Elaborate - I've not seen any reviews where people say their cards are "broken". What's the practical impact?
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>>102336962
people report driver timeouts in certain scenarios. idk maybe they use degraded intel cpus
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>>102336976
>>102336950
its not "broken on a hardware level".
some games just dont like chiplet gpus at all because they are expecting monolith gpu.
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>>102336794
>>102336813
Still an absolute unit.
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>>102336904
>>102336825
Both of y'all should just grab the 4080 Super
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>>102337002
He got fat again?
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>>102337014
He clearly gained weight again yes. He tries to hide it with wide shirts and pants. This was uploaded two months ago.
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>>102336945
I used to think the same, until recently when picking parts for a new build I read that even for people who spend all their money in preserving things that were on CDs (specifically games), an external reader is technically better because the vibrations of the rest of the computer could technically affect the imaging process... however tiny the chance might be.
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>>102336986
how/why would that affect the game
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>>102337011
When they add another 8GB VRAM, I will without hesitation
Until then, it's literally got the same amount of memory as a 4060ti, no thank you
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>>102337038
>game: hey make this Nvidia/Console API call
>driver: okay
>GPU: wut is this monolith GPU shit?
>game: hey where my API call?
>driver: hold on
>game: *pauses*
>driver: *timeout*
>GPU: *crash*
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>>102337070
>driver: *timeout*
Sounds like a driver issue, not a game issue
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>>102337086
TDR is set by Windows not the driver.
By default it timeouts if no calls are done in 5s.
But the game could take 10s to do the call and be fine.
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>>102337025
bros scamming a million dollars a year, should get on ozempic, he probably actually has diabetes even
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>>102337098
had to increase timeout in registry when I was messing with a Raven Ridge
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>>102337098
5s for a GPU call seems insane, not just a chiplet problem but something going really wrong.
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>>102337121
If you were paying attention, it's the games fault. It's making an invalid call.
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>>102337128
Okay, fair, but then in THAT case how is it the AMD GPU's problem that games make invalid calls
Unless you're saying that it's a proprietary nvidia-only call, in which case it's still the game's problem but I can kind of understand why it would be an issue (also aren't GPU backends supposed to be unified these days? it's only compute/CUDA that's still proprietary)

But in neither case is the chiplet architecture the culprit
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>>102337143
The code is optimized to make calls specified for Console architecture (RDNA2) or Nvidia architecture which are both monoliths.
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>>102336607
I will use Windows 10 until 2032. The IoT LTSC version is supported till then. After that I will upgrade.
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Anyone know some good desk speakers? Was looking at Fluance Ai41 but I realized that it's too big for my desk. Looking for something a lot more smaller.
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>>102337233
they have to be big to be good otherwise they have no bass
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>>102337011
I use Linux so I'm never buying Nvidia again.
>but it's fixed now
Don't care. Fuck'em.
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>>102337249
Gaaay.
I guess I'll just use IEMs. I heard good things about the Kanto YU2 speakers but I guess not. I guess I should save up for a proper 2.1 setup for my music corner. Oh well.
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>>102336591
>4070 super for 1080p
What kind of crackhead made these recommendations?
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>>102337070
Considering the xbox/gaystation both use amd chips that is entirely a bad dev problem.
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>>102337002
>>102337025
Doesn't he have some health problems impeding him? My wife has trashed knees and ankles and can't do most exercises without severe pain and it completely fucks her ability to exercise
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>>102337438
vaxx status?
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>>102337469
double vaxxed + booster
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>>102337214
Cool I'm not going to follow meme /g/ advise but good for you sport
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>>102337526
F
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>>102336591
reminder to always ignore the sticky when it comes to GPUs
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>>102337025
>>102337002
JayzTooChoncc
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>>102337376
This is a consoomer thread so in OP's mind 1080p can only mean 240Hz+.
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>7000 series CPUs got expensive again because 9000 series shitted and flopped all over the floor
That's what I get for being a waitfag....
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What's the best SATA SSD if we're talking raw performance? I somehow managed to plug an ATX 4 pin wrong and now all 3 of my M.2 slots are fucky. No I will not replace my board just for this.
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What is the best cheapest motherboard ram cpu combo
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>>102337682
>best cheapest
Without a doubt a used AM4 kit.
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can anyone help me with this ram problem i've got a pair of 16gb corsair 6000mhz ram paired with a asrock b650m-hdv/m.2 motherboard. The issue is that i set the expo settings in the bios however if i restart my computer the ram will reset to stock speed which would be 4800mhz, I know the cmos battery is fine as i got the motherboard this year. Did i just get a crappy motherboard?
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>>102337014
He has some sort of blood disease where his body doesn't iron properly. He doesn't have cancer but he has to go to a cancer center in Los Angeles to get massive iron infusions so he doesn't get anemic. Either way he's not going to be slim again.
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>>102337721
Either your board or your CPU doesn't play well with that specific memory kit and profile. This is why you don't cheap out on RAM unless the exact model is on your mobo's QVL. You can go beyond stock speeds manually, maybe even match the profile you tried, but it takes some research and up to a hundred restarts.
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>>102336591
I'm gonna do it...God willing.
Anything looking off?
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how the fuck do I choose an AM5 motherboard, they're all expensive and garbage
do I just look at the number of pci, nvme and sata slots and pick the cheapest one that has a good combination of what I need, or should I be aware of anything else
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>>102336591
I will now buy an AMD card
which one is this ?
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>>102337838
>do I just look at the number of pci, nvme and sata slots and pick the cheapest one that has a good combination of what I need
Yes
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>>102337855
The 6000 series reference cards - probably 6700xt or better due to having 3 fans.
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>try to tell co-worker to not buy a ps5 pro and just get a pc
>He keeps trying to tell me its 4k and you cant get 4k 60fps at that price for a pc
I swear to god "Upscaled 4k" has to be the biggest retard test to fall for.
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If I want a cheap but not too shit m.2 SSD what are the option aside from the one in the op, SN580, which takes 1 month to ship here
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>>102337902
YOU SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH
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>>102337837
Personally, I wouldn't bother with an AIO for a 105W CPU. Otherwise it looks fine.
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>>102336945
I want to get one of those old pc case with a disc drive but I'm afraid in terms of temps and noise reduction they're shit
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>>102337952
Back in 2011 I had a case with a huge (200mm+) exhaust fan on the side panel. Can't remember the name, though.
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>>102337881
understandable thank you
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https://www.techpowerup.com/326521/playstation-5-pro-up-to-24-cheaper-than-playstation-3-at-its-launch

btarunr totally not AMD shareholder
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>>102337952
A few modern ones still have optical drive support.
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>>102337030
>the vibrations of casefans ruin CDs
holy reddit
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>>102337994
>exhaust fan on the side panel
I've never heard of a case like that
>>102338036
Aren't they expensive as shit though?
Guess I could manually mod my own case by making holes in it for a disc drive but I'm too lazy and don't know how to use tools
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>>102338063
just get a phantek enthoo pro
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>>102337721
your BIOS settings are being reset after a failed memory training
first thing i would do is update the board to the latest BIOS version
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>that moment when you forgot to deactivate firefox's hardware acceleration and you think your pc is dying
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>>102338063
>Aren't they expensive as shit though?
No as our lord and saviour fractal adds optical drive support to a lot of their XL size cases.
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>>102338033
>nvidiashillup
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>>102337742
is this real? that fucking sucks
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>>102337902
>4k 60fps
>upscaled 4k from 720p 30fps
tell me he also works in tech so I feel misery.
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is 7900xtx taichi going to be cold enough in montech air max 903?
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>>102337438
>>102337742
damn that sucks. i wish him well
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>>102336661
YES since april 2024
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>>102338224
yes.
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>>102338101
what else could be causing it?
I'm nta but building a ryzen system tomorrow for a family member and have only built intel before
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>>102337742
Didn't Norm MacDonald die from something like this
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>>102337721
did you consult QVL for your motherboard? EXPO has two profiles, QVL list tells you which profile to use for what RAM.
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>>102338301
>what else could be causing it?
bad memory sticks
it would be very unusual for a ryzen 7000/9000 to be unable to boot 6000 MHz

(this happens on intel too if your memory settings are unstable)
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>>102338301
That can happen if you get mystery meat memory sticks which aren't well supported by the bios
That's why 6000cl28-32 kits are shilled so often here - they guarantee hynix a die which justwerks
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Anyone please recommend me a good quality pair of headphones for gaming, one that comes with a USB receiver. I think my steel seriws arctis 7x just died for some reason.
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>>102338360
Just get the $10 apple DAC if you need it for the headphones
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>>102337409
xbox and gaystation are monolith chips
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>>102338360
Im about to get Corsair HS80 (Wired USB). On YT they say it has a good mic and sound quality. They also got some cheaper models HS65
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>>102338063
>I've never heard of a case like that
NTA but I also have that, cooler master haf x
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>>102338360
honestly a pair of truthear zero and a hyperx solocast with a mic arm will outlive every headset anyone could possibly recommend and sound better the whole time

if you hate wired, cheapest steelseries arctis wireless headset is fine. Make sure you get it cheap because wireless is disposable
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>"PS5 Pro uses the new advanced [ray tracing] feature sets that AMD created as the next step in their roadmap architecture," Cerny told me. "But if you look around, there are no other AMD GPUs that use it yet. We motivated the development, and I'm very happy we did so -- the response from the developers has been extraordinarily great."
>https://www.cnet.com/tech/gaming/exclusive-hands-on-i-played-sonys-all-new-ps5-pro/
Rdna4 confirmed to have faster RT
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>>102338033
what a disingenuous faggot
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>>102338555
checked. glad Snoy pushed them a bit
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>>102338360
>for some reason.
ragequit induced tantrum
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>>102338555
cool but I still turn off RT because of the framepacing impact it has no matter what gpu you have
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>>102338555
>It was hard to return to 30 fps gaming
This cannot be real. Do consoleturds really? In 2024? I thought the 30fps->60fps upgrade had definitively happened in the early 2000s or so. Ever since then, resolutions are getting bumped but 60fps should be the minimum playable framerate. Did consolefags seriously just shrug and go back to making their games unplayable by default?
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>>102338555
>"But if you look around, there are no other AMD GPUs that use it yet. We motivated the development, and I'm very happy we did so -- the response from the developers has been extraordinarily great."
how do radeon copers even defend this shit
the fucking playstation pro has more graphical technologies than any of their current GPUs. In fact, it's only because of Sony (their biggest customer) demanding it that they even worked on RT
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>>102337645
The criminally rare /g/ consensus was that the best moment to buy was before July ended. My built that cost 1580 € is now 2011 €.
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I find it funny how so many Nvidia owners have problems with the FFXIV demo when their problem is actually user error. Too many walletfags are getting into PC gaming and have more money than sense. They don't know how to use Windows or Linux properly neither their GPU.
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>>102338124
Do nvidiafags still need to disable HW acceleration in their browsers? Lmao. Every person says that's a fix when it's not.
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>>102338807
>I find it funny how so many Nvidia owners have problems with the FFXIV demo
??
What? What error are they getting? I pretty much never had to do anything with my 4080 to configure it to play XIV. I think the only thing I did was update DLSS and cap FPS to my screen's refresh rate.
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>>102338807
Can't you play FF14 with a potato? Why are there even issues? What are they?
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>>102338839
i'm on AMD fyi
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>8pin pcie power on mobo
does that mean if a gpu like a 4060 which has only one 8 pin it doesnt need to be plugged in to the gpu and only to the motherboard is enough?
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>>102338704
>how do radeon copers even defend this shit
i don't care
AMD clearly doesn't care
the less wasted silicon, the better
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>>102338947
The PCI ports themselves have a power limit, I think it's 75W or so? Look it up.
I have no idea what the mobo needs extra power for, but it's going to be intended for its own internal components. If your card can't live off of 75W or whatever the port is rated for, the mobo having more power won't help it.
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>>102338765
yeah prices are lower because people are out drinking and grilling
>>102338947
No
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why cant motheboard makers just merge the hd audio and the front io like they did with the power and reset?
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>>102338704
Because RT is irrelevant at this moment, only a few games utilise it correctly since 2000 gen
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>>102338866
I've got a 3060 and get about 100-110 fps during normal gameplay, but in spots with a lot of player characters it drops down to 20-30, but I think that's more due to the recent graphics update than anything else
That's the only place I could conceivably think of it "giving them trouble", and nothing really with the benchmark
Unless you're talking about ffxvi instead, in which case yeah, its playable for me but not as smooth as I'd like, though I'd hope a newer card could help with that
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>>102338843
>>102338866
I meant XVI. Go to steam forums. Nvidia people complaining about stutters and crashing blaming the game and bragging about their stupid 4090 or 4070 ti super.
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>>102338947
Yes
many of these mobo companies are trying to beat the ugly aesthetic of the gpu cables
https://videocardz.com/newz/msi-800-series-motherboards-feature-extra-8-pin-pcie-power-connector-for-next-gen-ai-gpus
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>>102339097
>This setup supplements the existing PCIe connector, which provides a standard 75W, allowing for a total power delivery of up to 225W without additional cables.
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>>102339097
>>102339113
Huh
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>>102339113
>75 watts from pcie lane + 150 watts from mobo 8 pin pcie
good bout time
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Why would anybody buy a PS5 Pro for 700 bucks when you can build a decent entry-level gaming PC for that money
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>>102339233
they're too retarded to use a computer.
it goes both ways. poorfags and richfags are both too stupid to use computers and get scammed by companies who are happy to abuse their idiocy.
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>>102336591
I live in a commie block in EE that doesn't have electrical grounding. Sometimes i can fell a weak electrical current when I touch my pc case. Is this normal or did I fuck something up?

Maybe the screws I used on the psu were to big/not meant for that part?
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give it to me straight, bros
when is the 50 series really gonna release and what are the odds that they jack up the price a bunch
should i just go ahead and get a 4080 or 4090?
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>>102339368
attach a wire from one of the case screws to your radiator.
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>>102339377
we dont know your circumstance or application
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>>102339233
consider someone whose main computing device is a phone (especially iphone, but honestly stock android is much the same), and then they either have a laptop at work that they never use for personal stuff, or often not even that and maybe they have e.g. an ipad for when they need "more" than their phone and so they literally never use an actual computer

now if they had a gaming pc they'd need to interact with the actual OS, install steam, worry about compatibility, figure out how to connect a controller (assume they don't want to just kbm, because many people don't, especially those types), even worse if you wanna figure out how to drive your big screen tv in the living room... (and they don't wanna buy a fuckoff expensive monitor just for their pc, either)
plus you gotta know the components market, because you're responsible for your own performance, you gotta worry about how high you can turn up your settings, etc.
that's not even talking about actually assembling the PC, but this is assuming they might use a prebuilt service for example, all of the above still applies

meanwhile with a console you just buy a black box that you stick on a shelf, plug into your tv, and it lets you play games, that's it
you get exactly the performance that everyone else gets and that the developer expected you to get (even if it's bad, point is you don't have to think about it, cause it's not your responsibility to change it)
nothing can be incompatible
you just buy the "game playing box" and play games with it
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>>102339392
pretty old card (vega frontier) which was starting to show its age a bit much for me last time i was gaymin on it (elden ring release)
mostly just been using my macbook in the past year, but want to get to PC gamin again, and experiment a bit with local LLMs
so nothing massively important or urgent. i can do my work on my macbook.

oh, I'm not exactly poor, not rich either. I can afford it. I tend to not upgrade constantly. I guess that's the primary thought process, I'll probably not buy a new one for at least a few years, so value/dollar is nice and a decent baseline of performance is good. i.e. if paying a bit more for much better perf/dollar is what the 5090 is, then i would value that even if the price is higher

if it's just gonna be scalper central again with an even higher MSRP from the gate then idk, getting a 40xx rn sounds good
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>>102339464
>consider someone whose main computing device is a phone
stopped reading there
i can't do that
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>>102339485
The time is now old man.
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>>102336591
>1080p: RTX 4070 Super, RX 7700 XT

Is this a troll post?
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>>102339071
Ah. So, what is the solution? I don't have the game, just curious.
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>>102339377
I think it's likely they'll jack up the price but it's also likely that the 40 series might drop in price. Certainly used cards will probably become more abundant, but maybe new cards will become cheaper too.
As for when, speculated to be some time this autumn. So most likely not more than 2-3 months to wait.

The biggest issue is that since AMD won't be releasing high end cards this generation, it's very likely nvidia will quite simply not put as much effort into the ones it makes, and/or overprice them to shit with no competition. Kinda how allegedly a 4080ti got cancelled because AMD's top flagship could barely compete with the 4080, let alone the 4090.

>>102339470
Value usually tends to kind of drop off for the top of the line cards, and especially the xx90 cards are often priced at fuck-you price points because they know whales will want the "top one" no matter what, and everyone else won't afford it no matter what. Though I've heard that the 4090 is actually fast enough that's it not as horrible as it could be in that regard, but afaik it's still notably worse than a 4080, and there's no reason not to expect the 5090 to be worse again in terms of value.

If I were you, I'd wait for the next gen to drop just to see where things stand, and then take a decision based on that. That might mean picking up a 4090 for cheaper now that the whales who only buy the top have a new top to go for; that might mean buying a cheaper 4080 if prices drop across the board; that might mean picking up a 5080/5090 if by some miracle nvidia actually doesn't scalp the fuck out of them; that might even mean picking up, say, a 5070, if for example hypothetically it performs better than a 4080 while costing less, or something like that.

We don't know for sure yet what will happen, except for two things: there's almost no way the 40 series will get MORE expensive, and we will know for sure in just a couple months or so. So it makes a lot of sense to wait.
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>>102336591
I really want an ultra-wide OLED (even though they still use 1st gen pixel layout). Stop me from buying the MSI MPG 341CQPX on sale rn.
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>>102339642
>they still use 1st gen pixel layout
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>>102339615
yeah alright
thanks for the response. that was kinda what I was thinking, but didn't know if maybe there was some info/rumors out there painting any kind of different picture than normal

thanks bro
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Esteemed gentlehumans and others, I am in need of advice. Or confirmation.

Is an RTX4070 a wise choice for a $600 budget? Wall of explanatory text below.

Currently running a vintage HP Z840 (so, PCI GEN 3) with dual
Xeon E5-2697 v4s and 128GB of (slow) 1866 RAM (at least I get quad-channel performance) and a Quadro M4000. The PC was free to me so no complaining about the slower RAM. The fan on the M4000 has been making noise of late and it's a crap card by any modern standards (the PC was used in a test environment 24x7x365 from 2016 to 2023, so I don't question the quality of the PNY OEM fan).

I want to upgrade the M4000 to improve the DX12 rendering speed of Chief Architect and general cat picture viewing use (not a gaymer).

Power is not a problem as I have the 1125 watt PSU and one mechanical hard drive (but 4 NVME and 4 SSD drives), I'm well within spec for the PSU even with all that RAM.

I've had bad experiences with Radeon drivers so Nvidia is my preference.

Advice is appreciated.
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>>102336591
>CPU
>Budget: 7600X
>Gaming: 7800X3D
>check benchmarks
>basically a 5-10% increase but cost +75% more
what am i missing?
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Poomd unboxed announces low poozen sales, shills are no longer getting paid.

>No One Is Buying AMD Zen 5, Post Launch Update
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKtUJ2nDxZo
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Got a pretty nice deal on a shadow base 800. No RGB sillyness and comes with three 140mm fans. Pretty happy.
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>>102339642
Ultra-wide monitors suck
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>>102339691
Just go with an used 3060.
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Is buying cpus from aliexpress safe?
A 7600x on amazon goes for $200 but on aliexpress goes for $130.
That's a very decent difference and it's supposedly new and sealed.
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>>102339710
>basically a 5-10%
Except that is wrong.
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>>102339717
Nice.
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>>102339233
retards
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>>102339647
> 240Hz refresh
> 0.82ms response time
> subtle 1800R curve
> HDMI 2.1 and DP 1.4
> fanless cooling
> 3 years burn-in warranty
> excellent color accuracy

If it'd use a newer sub-pixel layout or Microsoft would patch ClearType to enhance the text rendering on these panels it would almost be perfect for me.

>>102339729
34" ultra wides are the sweet spot for me. You don't have to constantly move your head and it's wide enough that you can display 2 inputs or remote consoles next to each other conveniently.
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>>102339377
It will be $2000 and sellout immediately
You better have the money and bots ready to buy it on launch day
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>>102339729
While I prefer to buy a new card, I would be interested in knowing your rationale for the 3060, care to elaborate?
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>>102339831
would have the money, but don't plan on writing a bot
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>>102339773
thanks for your valuable input anon
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>>102339824
>DP 1.4
>on a 240Hz ultrawide
huh
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>>102339832
What's the point of buying a brand new card when the rest of your computer won't live to its needs and expectations? Just buy a cheaper used card and keep saving until you can get a full new system.
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>>102339843
No problem
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>>102339691
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI-kp8OxQ0A
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>>102339847
DSC yo. People run 4k 240hz 10bit over 1.4 with DSC.
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>>102339233
Some people just want to sit on the couch and have a system that works all the time. If you're willing to accept the graphic, settings, and mod limitations compared to PC, the current consoles are a fine value for the latest AAA slop especially with how cucked PC part pricing has gotten. PC dominated during the PS4/Xbone generation but consoles have caught up a lot on power/value in the current one.
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So, I bought this NZXT Kraken Elite 360 RGB water cooler for my CPU and it seems it comes with pre applied thermal paste. Do I add more, do I remove this thermal paste and add my own, or do I just plug it without adding anything else?
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>>102339895
>let's use an inferior standard with less bandwidth
>we'll solve it by compressing the entire screen!
huh
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>>102339733i bought a ryzen 5500 in December a It looks fine, the CPUs from a AliExpress don't come with cooler though
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>>102339935
Visually lossless.
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Besides having to give up on half the ram because 192gb wouldn’t work, everything else went well.
Ryzen 9600x, 96gb of 5600mhz ddr5, 16gb 4070ti super
Using my decade old HX850i, based Corsair

However this aio fucking blows, it’s just a cheap ID cooling one, I’ve used their stuff before and it works fine, it’s quiet, but I’m still hitting 75c under sustained load.
Contact pressure is fine, I know airflow in this chassis is limited with basically no active intakes.
So I wonder how much of that is the cooler itself versus it having some pretty mediocre conditions to work in.
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>>102339881
wait a minute, how much % difference is 290 and 310?
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>>102339920
I wipe it off and apply mo own to the cpu
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>>102339920
I don't know for sure, but I'm fairly certain "adding more" is never the answer. If you don't think their paste is adequate just remove it and use your own, if you trust it then keep it.
Personally I would be inclined to assume that factory-applied paste is probably mediocre ultra-cheap garbage, and if you have a tube of good quality paste on hand I'd use that. But on the other hand, the stock paste will probably at least work (they wouldn't sell effectively a fault cooler out of the box), so if you're lazy or if you don't have your own tube of paste and don't wanna wait to order one, it should be usable.

Paste is also one of those things where there's so much snakeoil, and even the good stuff is pretty cheap, and most of the "bad stuff" is only going to be a few *C worse unless they REALLY fucked up.
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>>102336591
wtf I love antisemitic micro devices now!
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>>102339968
>192gb wouldn’t work
You'd need to run it reallllllllllllllllll slow to get 192gb working.
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guys what is the best second hand laptop with performance for cost ratio? I don't give a fuck about reliability right now

i need some cheap used lap to do things right now and buy a great machine later
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>>102339968
Are you doing push or pull? I feel like with pull/intake fans on the radiator (and an exhaust fan on the back), the airflow inside the case shouldn't really matter.
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Brehs, suggest me the cheapest new ddr5 ECC RAM build.
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>>102339983
The performance of the 5700xed isn't relevant for a comparison between a 7600x and 7800x3d as was originally posited.
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>>102337742
just eat less and exercise more, you fat fuck.
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>>102339895
>inferior
DSC is visually lossless

>>102339710
OP is retarded. R5 7600 is the default gaming CPU, the 7800X3D is for high end systems or people who play CPU intensive games

>>102339691
>to improve the DX12 rendering speed of Chief Architect
As long as it's GPU accelerated, and your projects will fit within the 12 GB VRAM cache, the 4070 is a good choice. There's also the 4060 Ti 16 GB if you'd rather have more VRAM and less compute

>>102339642
>ultra-wide OLED
WaitTM for 5120x2160. 1440p UW is mediocre
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>>102339968
don't those CPUs always try to hit 95C under load
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>>102340009
Wrong thread, but what's your usecase? Do you want a gaming laptop, or do you only care about CPU? Do you care about performance at all for that matter, or is it just to have a shitposting machine until you get something better?

You can go ask in /tpg/ for more details, but generally a used T480 for <$150 is a pretty decent deal. If you really just want a shitposting machine though, you could scour ebay for the cheapest thing around.
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>>102340021
oh right, for some reason i thought the highlithed one was the 7800
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Give it to me straight boys, how disappointing are the nvidia 5000 and amd 8000 reveals going to be? I haven't been keeping up
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>>102340009
Best would be business grade laptops like lenovo thinkpad or Dell Latitude. They are built well, work well, cheap to buy and fix. Depends on your budget, you can get x230 for 100 Bux or spend 2000usd on some x1c or xps.
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>>102339987
>>102339985
Fugg I'm a beginner so I'm lacking confidence to wipe it and add my own, I think I'll just use this one and if it starts overheating I can remove that and add my own I guess. They woulnd't sell faulty coolers, right?
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>>102340009
used ebay gaming laptop
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>>102340009
Consumer grade laptops suck ass stay away from them.
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>>102340000
quads checked
even at 3600mhz it wouldnt post consistently, i got it to post one time like that, and would otherwise get stuck with the dram light on
i know the boot process takes way longer with 4 dimms but i waited for 20 minutes and it would just turn the dram light on, 5 minutes later it would restart, and repeat
>>102340014
its push, top exhaust
>>102340041
that was what i also thought, 75c isnt the end of the world, its just weird that a cpu pulling 88 watts peak is hitting 75c on a 360mm aio
granted its a terrible aio
but even at the worst i wouldnt expect it to get that hot
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>>102340088
Adding thermal paste is fucking easy, use anything plastic to remove the old one without scratching the metal too much then wipe with alcohol (and something lint-free)
Then put a pea of your own paste and press down, ez pz, watch some youtube videos if you want a better feel for the volume necessary but it doesn't have to be exact
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>>102339615
>it's also likely that the 40 series might drop in price
Almost never happens unless you catch a clearance sale

>>102339565
Yes, OP expects poorfags on 1080p to buy a $600 card

>>102339377
Jan 2025. If you're buying high end, at least wait to see what next gen offerings are

>>102339071
>>102338807
>Nvidia people complaining about stutters and crashing blaming the game
You're a shithead. Radeon has the same problems, but no one owns Radeon besides a few retards. Of course you will see more complaints from Geforce users.
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>>102340094
Gaymen laptop is the worst choice ever.
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>>102339968
>Ryzen
>192gb ram
KEK
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>>102337543
qrd
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>>102340026
>4070 is a good choice. There's also the 4060 Ti 16 GB if you'd rather have more VRAM and less compute
NTA I just want to rant, I honestly cannot comprehend nvidia's VRAM choices. I get how the 4060ti 8GB fiasco led to this but basically now we have a situation where
>previous gen entry-level card has 12GB
>current gen entry-level has 16GB
>meanwhile current gen mid-range is stuck on 12GB
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>>102340000
>max officially supported 5600MHz

why
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>>102340026
> tftcentral
they also said gen 2 QD-OLED ultrawide panels are going to come out this year.
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Need to store an old pc i might have to use again in the future in a room that can go down to ~16 degree celsius (61 fahrenheit) and 73% air humidity. Is it safe to store it there for 1-2 years or will i risk it rusting or some other probelms?
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>>102340108
>its push, top exhaust
Why not do pull then? Suck in cold air through the radiator.
Maybe I'm retarded, but it seems like the way to go in general; and if you yourself acknowledge your case airflow is poor it feels like a no-brainer. Is there any reason push would be superior?
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>>102340108
>its just weird that a cpu pulling 88 watts peak is hitting 75c on a 360mm aio
it's not weird at all when you consider how small the die is
you need to realign your expectations from the old intel 4 core era
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>>102339968
Why do you need 192gigs anon?
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>>102340136
OEMs I bet.
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I think the pump inside my intel aio has died after 10 years of heavy usage
Just put an order for cheap stock suck ass intel cooler a moment ago
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>>102340136
weak memory controller
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>>102339968
>MSI motherboard
oops
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>>102338555
Don't get your hopes up.
Of course I'd love to see Radeon pull a rabbit out of its hat wrt RT

>>102338033
He's not wrong

>>102337837
>Anything looking off?
Yeah, a Radeon card for more than a better Geforce card

>>102337721
Update your BIOS if you haven't already

>>102336904
>the vram is limiting me
The VRAM isn't limiting you, you fucking retard. The performance of the GPU's core is limiting you. The 1070 is extremely weak even for 1080p these days, to say nothing of 1440p. The stronger 2060 6 GB became too weak for 1440p (even with DLSS) before its VRAM ever was a problem
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>>102336688
Radeon is garbage, especially at that price point.
Shit tier RT, shit tier upsampling, shit tier drivers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfI9rmTnxe8&t=331s

>>102340075
Radeon has no high end this generation. I would expect high end RTX 50 to be pretty expensive with """"normal"""" gen over gen improvements (e.g., RTX 5080 = RTX 4090). In the midrange, Nvidia, AMD, and Intel might slug it out but don't count on it. Likely they'll all effectively collude to keep prices high
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>>102339920
I always keep it. Because the first run is always a test run.
Build the PC out of the case, install the AIO, stress test for 24 hours. If things look good then disassemble it, install in the case, apply the new paste since I had to wipe down the old paste anyways, stress test again to make sure.
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So I have x670e steel legend with 2x32 gb ddr5 6000 mt/s and the bios says "@4800 Mhz" by default. Do I just bump it up to 6000?
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>want a nice PC but my mind tells me i'll just waste time playing video games and fucking around
>feel guilty and irresponsible with my time and money
who else remembers building a PC as a kid and not giving a fuck
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>>102340343
RTFM
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>>102340194
i dont really, i just like having a lot of ram
my uses will maybe top 32gb so i went with 64gb on my previous platform, this one i figured "fuck it why not" and got 192gb, though 96gb will do fine
>>102340178
i guess, ill try some other stuff and
>>102340153
this idea as well, and see if that helps any
if it doesnt, ehh its not throttling so who cares, but id like it to run cooler
might try different fans too, ive got a bunch of noctua redux 120mm fans lying around which might do better than the stock fans on a 60$ aio
>>102340120
yeah i did not know about this going into it, i just presumed it would work normally
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>>102340351
I built 2 super expensive PC as a kid, now I'm 33 I don't have the urge to do something like that anymore, I don't even get excited about new game releases like I used to, still play OSRS BF4
I think the latest modern game I play was Death Stranding and my old PC still do just fine
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Is there a 4k 27" mini led gaming monitor that isn't shit?
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>>102340075
there's no way of knowing yet. AMD apparently isn't even going to try to have a high-end, though. if the 4090-5090 is the same jump as 3090-4090 was, then the 5090 will be an endgame GPU, basically. once you factor in all of the upscaling/framegen tools, there'd be no real reason to upgrade for video games. 4090 is already so close such that it's basically already there if you understand that 1440p>2160p
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>>102340251
>The VRAM isn't limiting you, you fucking retard. The performance of the GPU's core is limiting you.
That's great to hear when I see my VRAM filling up and have to take measures to prevent it to avoid huge stutters due to swapping, thanks for letting me know that the actual problem is more compute when that happens
Now I'm not saying I couldn't use more compute (which is why I'm looking at relatively expensive GPUs) but the VRAM is absolutely a problem for me

>the 1070 is extremely weak even for 1080p these days
>these days
Cards don't get weaker over time, the 10 series was excellent on release and is exactly as powerful now as it was back then. It's only a problem if you want to play the very latest AAA slop and want to max out the settings despite the game already having way too many polygons and effects, in which case it's a self-inflicted problem.

>>102340302
>Radeon is garbage, especially at that price point.
>Shit tier RT, shit tier upsampling, shit tier drivers
Fair opinion but I don't play any games that meaningfully benefit from RT, and I don't have any reason to render at anything other than native resolution. With this in mind, what are the issues with AMD?
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>>102340366
>if it doesnt, ehh its not throttling so who cares, but id like it to run cooler
75 C is not high
but sure, try whatever you want, you're hitting the power limit (65 W TDP = 88 W PPT) so the CPU isn't gonna try to boost harder
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>>102340389
Same question, but 1440p 27".
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does anyone know anything about zotac? can anyone say the difference between these?
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>>102340390
>so close
>needs to play at 1080p to get performance out of path tracing
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>>102340429
I'm using 980Ti AMP Extreme, they are just pre-oc with a little bit better cooling system
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>>102339377

I am going for a new build with a 5090. What CPU should I get? 7800X3d? I kinda want integrated graphics, so that I can drive a 5th screen. I assume the 5090 can only drive a maximum of four screens, like the 30 and 40 series. I now have a 3090 and a intel gpu in the same case and two gpu's don't go well together.

What is the latest top tier intel CPU? is there a good intel CPU arriving soon?
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>>102340469
Arrow lake should be later this year, if you're waiting for the 5090 then no point in asking now.
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>>102340387
my first build was a 8800GT with some athlon 64. i was like 12 in 2007. i cheaped out on the PSU, some generic Apevia with no rating(didn't really exist in 2007 anyway). i can't believe my parents spent that much money on me lol. sort of retarded of them.

i killed it after trying to overclock the GPU too much, getting some kind of display artifacts while playing Company of Heroes, and in a fit of autistic rage, taking the tower outside and stomping on it with the side panel off to destroy the inside. grim. i only had the thing for like 2 years. really stupid.
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>>102339968
>10 year old hx850i
>4070ti
goodbye house
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>>102340429
My only experience with them is the 560 GTX 448 that literally burned somewhere after 1 year of use and killed my motherboard with it.
Haven't bought anything from them since.
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>>102339565
Nah, it’s just 12GB isn’t enough for 1440p anymore
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I have a 5900x that's currently not getting over 70C on load (Cinebench, I assume maybe 8 to 10C higher on Prime95?)
I have decent cooling and a bit of an overkill PSU.
Should I attempt overclocking this thing somehow?
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>>102340392
You're a fucking moron. Cards get weaker over time relative to new games. Or do you think you buy one and they play games forever?
https://youtu.be/BRAEx1Dze5E?si=zZVh0RI14im2WV1v

And guess what retard, new games force reconstruction. You'll be using FSR whether you like it or not.
>There is no option for "no upscaling,"
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/senuas-saga-hellblade-2-benchmark/3.html

>when I see my VRAM filling up
Games will use as much VRAM as is available, retard. Doesn't mean they need that much
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>>102340447
idk that's sort of a meme anyway. it's a massive FPS hit for like a minor improvement at best, just like 2160p. devs want it because it makes development easier, not because it's really worth doing on the user end.
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>>102340453
should i get the white one?
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>>102340453
The 970 amp extreme was a monster - it was as fast as a 980.
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>>102340565
The human eye can't see past cybercafes.
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>>102340485

Should I go K or KS?

F and KF seem stupid, since it is either locked or no integrated graphics. Am I right in this? I have not had an Intel CPU in ages, so I do not know the naming schemes.
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>>102340551
>Doesn't mean they need that much
It does when I get fucking stutters once it fills up. Maybe it shouldn't fill up that much then huh
>>There is no option for "no upscaling,"
>With TSR you can set the scaling level as a percentage (or 100% for native)
Also, not an issue in any of the games I care about
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>>102336591
Ah, the shit OP again!
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>>102340499
>hogwarts with rt and frame gen
I guess Radeon's not enough for 1440p either, as Radeon doesn't have Frame Gen in Hogwarts (as FSR is widely unsupported), and it's well known how good (read: bad) Radeon is at RT

>>102340589
You deserve a Radeon card
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>>102340551
Modern game developers (especially the ones working with the engine) are fucking scum.
I'll rather stick playing 25 year old games with my shitty 3080Ti meme GPU than buying any of those shittily programmed garbage games.
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>>102340588
I'm not entirely sure on what their naming scheme will be with their core ultra line, but whatever the unlocked version with integrated graphics is.
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>>102340541
increasing the power limit with PBO is easy and won't have any risk of degradation or instability
curve optimizer is a pain in the ass and not worth it imo
you're gonna get the biggest gains from RAM overclocking, especially if you aren't maxing out the infinity fabric (1866-1900 FCLK)
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>>102340599
Nah, it just werks
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>>102340643
>just werks
Sure, that's why only AMD Steve can get results like that, by going to the least RT demanding area. Meanwhile, in an RT demanding area, pic related

>It seems nobody tested the game on Radeon with ray tracing, because they would have noticed the white trees that turn to the correct green color once you walk up to them.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/hogwarts-legacy-benchmark-test-performance-analysis/7.html
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>>102340673
Here’s the most demanding area, 4090 has even less FPS here
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>>102340487
I don't remember my first build but the second was Q9550, HIS 4870 turbo and Asus P5Q Deluxe with PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Red
I still have them now and they are still working lol
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i have a dilemma anons help
i have a 5600 + B450 with 1 m.2 slot and I would like more (and gen 4 storage) and a CPU upgrade.

Do I either
1. buy 5700X3D and B550 board /w 2 slots for approx 200
2. buy 7500f + B650 + DDR5 for approx 300
I can't get a PCI-e add-in card because it would block my GPU fans as I already have a wifi card in the bottom slot
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is this monitor good to go for gaming?
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>>102340606

It seems that the KS usually have overheating issues.

i9-15900K or whatever it will be called I think then. This together with the biggest baddest Noctua air cooler. I am a bit tired of the AIO stuff. AIO's make a lot of noise, if you ask me.
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>>102340713
don't buy a whole new am4 setup. it's too late for that. go to am5
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What is the best case for the lowest noise possible while having good thermals?
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>>102340574
That's all about the price difference and your taste, white build is for faggot tho
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>>102340771
Thanks anon, I'm thinking of selling my current build to help with the cost too, I think that's reasonable
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>>102340761
I think it's the Core Ultra 285 or something silly like that. I like my nhd15, but benchmarks are showing that there are cheaper AIO that perform better. I think when I upgrade this 12700k I will be putting an aio on the cpu. Especially for the price noctua expects for their latest.
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>>102340850
>not just getting the Peerless Assassin
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>>102336704
Doable, yes, but not enjoyable and prone to making mistakes out of hastiness. Take your time. You will only get to use it on or after sunday anyway. There's no good reason to rush it.
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>>102340251
>a better Gefore Card
Tell me when a card looks as good and clean as the Sapphire PURE line :^)
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when i buy an oc card does it come overclocked? what should i do when i get it?
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>>102340865
Speaking of
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>>102340889
Does it perform better than an arctic freezer 3?
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>>102340880
The sapphire vega 64
>>102340884
>what should i do when i get it?
DDU old drivers, install new drivers, play games
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>>102340880
6950xt pure was kino
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>>102340900
No. Nor should it.
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>>102340900
no but it's roughly 50% cheaper and within 4C
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>>102339874
I am quite certain the system will live up to my needs for a very long time (by computer standards). I figure I can get another 4-5 years out of this old workhorse but the video card is annoyingly slow compared to the rest of it.

>>102339883
Thanks. What I get from the video is that PCIE 3 is not going to be the system limitation on any modern card I throw in here, rather I am constrained by the RAM speed and older CPUs. No matter - not a gamer, just some CAD rendering.

>>102340026
>There's also the 4060 Ti 16 GB if you'd rather have more VRAM and less compute
kek yes more VRAM might be nice, pic related on the M4000. I will have a look at those as well then.
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>>102340957
oh wait that's a the freezer 2 but literally who gives a fuck
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Is it normal for these to not align with the case screwholes? It seems to be slotted properly and I have it attached to the antisag bracket on the other end.
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>>102340994
no it should always screw in if properly mounted
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>>102340696
>most demanding area
OK retard, I'm sure in your mind 28 FPS >>102340673 is higher than AMD's Steve's bogus number
Anyway even with AMD Steve's """numbers""", only the 7900 XTX can run 1440p but oh wait, actually it can't in games that aren't PS4 games like Hogwarts
Imagine being a Radeon fan and then being dumb enough to set RT as your baseline for performance
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Give me a 5090 with 48 GB VRAM GDDR7, 512 bit bus, 300 watt and a non retarded power connector at 2000 dollars in january 2025.GIVE IT TO ME NVIDEA I KNOW YOU HAVE IT YOU JUST DONT WANT TO GIVE IT CAUSE YOU HATE US CONSUMERS ALL YOU CARE ABOUT IS INVESTORS THESE DAYS
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>>102340302
>>102340390
I guess I'll check in next year and see how things go. I hope the best value offerings once again end up in the $500-600 range because I don't play enough modern games to justify spending more than that on a gpu.
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>>102341052
what will you use it for
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>>102340903
yes but do i watch temperatures, mess with the volt?
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>>102341052
>knowing full well they don't give a shit about you
>want to throw money at them anyway
What the fuck is wrong with you people
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>>102341086
You shouldn't need to. Do so if you feel like it.
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>>102341005
Fuck, what do I do? I'm growing tired of handling this fucking behemoth
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>>102341066
>>102340469

Running five 4k monitors at 144 hertz with animated backgrounds while rendering 4k images natively in Stable Diffusion and making an automated pipeline to upload these images to all the major art websites, defiling the internet and arts even further.

That, and making video games that use path tracing.
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>>102341117
personally I'd remount the card but your mobo could also be mounted incorrectly
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>>102341052
>THESE DAYS
that's all they've ever cared about
caring about the consumer is just the broad way of achieving that

different kind of consumer base for them these days tho
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can i use this with a 4080 super?
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>>102336591
A PC mouse is part of a PC built.

What DPI should you set your mouse to? I have a Mad Catz Rat 4+ with up to 7200 DPI. Should I set it to max DPI and reduce sensitivity in OS?
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>>102341117
Check the tab at the bottom of the bracket, sometimes the tab has to be tweaked to fit into the little slot at the bottom of the case.
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>>102340957
Guess not, still very good for it's price though. Especially compared to noctua.
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>>102341117
>this fucking behemoth
Wait, is that card warping? Put a support under it.
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>>102341018
>he lost and started schizo posting
Idk, I enjoy my 4k native gameplay
Do you enjoy your 33fps cinema?
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>>102340889
Honest question: How do they keep winning so hard? How can they apparently provide such great value at such low price points? Are there any strings attached? Are there known cases of them breaking down spontaneously or something. I am highly inclined to use one of their coolers for my next build, but I am still wondering whether it may or may not be too good to be true.
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>>102341384
R&D costs a lot and they're probably just copying some noctua design or something, patents expire, et cetera. who knows.
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I bought a new GPU and a OLED monitor. Which youtube video should I watch first?
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>>102341467
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6k7a8bw451M
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>>102341344
>Idk, I enjoy my 4k native gameplay
Yeah, if you play last gen looking games like Space Marine 2

>schizoposting
Schizos are people who set RT as the baseline >>102340499, thinking that Radeon can use RT
Pic related doesn't even have hardware RT
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>>102341509

30 fps on a 3090... I do not feel so good my frens...
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>>102341526
>UE5 game on max 4k runs like shit
How could this have happened?
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Is there an announcement of a 5090 soon at least so I know what to buy for Christmas?
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Lower hz 4k oleds dropping eh
Msi 321up
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>>102341626

most rumors say that the 5090 will be announced at CES in january.
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What's the i7 4770k and 980 ti of 2024? (as in used parts to buy now that lasts forever?)
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>>102341509
> last gen looking games
Nah, it looks really good, you could play it at 1080p even
I didn’t play the monkey game since it’s another boring soulslike, but judging by the performance of 4070 at 1080p I guess you didn’t play it too, kek
> Schizos are people who set RT as the baseline
>Le RTxGPU
lol
lmao even
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>>102341628
4k under 40" makes no sense whatsoever. hi-dpi is a gigantic meme
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Best value air cooler if I don't want my money to support People's Liberation Army?
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>>102341666
just buy the new d15 g2
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>>102341650
7800X3D & RTX 4090, unironically
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My brand new 16gb 4060 ti coil whines when generating images, not terrible but it's noticeable especially during quiet hours. When gaming it's unnoticeable.
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>>102341687
>d15 g2
ooohhh, there's a nh-d15 successor?
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>>102341664
Are you a blind nigger? This is before we mention the pixel structure that currently isn't optimal either
Viewing distance?
So many niggerish opinions
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>>102341708
Yes. It was just released and it's the best performing air cooler

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/noctua-nh-d15-g2-cpu-cooler/10.html

the problem is that you're really paying for it. you can get like 95% of the performance for like $35 if you buy the phantom spirit. your call to make.
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>>102341697

This makes the most sense in terms of price versus value, but buying a 4090 now would be stupid.
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>>102341740

official response Noctua: The chromax version of the d15 g2 is currently scheduled for Q1/Q2 2025. The reason why it is coming later than the regular version is that we need new injection moulding toolings for the black version, and we have to make sure that mass production is running stable before we can initiate the manufacturing and validation process for further toolings.
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>>102341740
>phantom spirit
is this the new peerless assassin?
or a different product line?
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>>102341762
well the top of the line is the phantom spirit EVO. there's a peerless assassin, then the phantom spirit, and then the phantom spirit EVO, from worst to best.
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>>102341772
>>102341772
>>102341772
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>>102341743
If you have a card to use in the meantime then I'd say use what you've got, but if you need a card now, then I'd get anything between an RTX 3060 to RTX 4070 super. You can also sell the card when you don't need it anymore and then buy a more powerful card later.
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>>102341762
thermalright actually conducts yearly or biyearly upgrades of their products (unlike noctua)
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>>102341664
nigga wat?
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>>102341657
Unlike you, I don't have to pay the native tax
Enjoy your 4K native *cough* FSR *cough*
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>>102341832
Yeah, I can enjoy the best image quality
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>>102341762
It's slightly different. The new Peerless Assassin is the Peerless Assassin 140 that came out a while ago which is slightly better than their other air coolers. They have a new high-end cooler in the works
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>>102341873
WOW is that what they call ray tracing?
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Building a PC for the wife. Any missing components that I'm overlooking? Cables etc.
>CPU:
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor
>CPU Cooler:
Corsair iCUE H150i ELITE CAPELLIX XT 65.57 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler + Corsair Elite LCD Upgrade Kit Ice (Clear)
>Motherboard:
Asus ROG STRIX B650-A GAMING WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard
>Memory:
Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6200 CL36 Memory
>Storage:
Samsung 990 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
Samsung 990 Pro 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
>Video Card:
PowerColor Hellhound Spectral Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card
>Case:
Corsair iCUE 5000X RGB QL Edition ATX Mid Tower Case
>Power Supply:
GameMax GX Pro Rampage 1250 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
>Case Fans:
Corsair iCUE QL120 41.8 CFM 120 mm Fans (x6)
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>>102341384
They just copy everyone else and have their own factories so a lot of traditional costs just vanish.
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>>102341873
You can't even hit native >>102341509, silly
And secondly DLSS is better than or equivalent to native. Your cherrypicks don't change that
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>>102341873
Soulful PS1 effect
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>>102341977
But I easily can >>102341509
>Ghostwire Tokyo
KEK, every time
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>>102341977
>>102342006
Oops >>102341344
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>>102341951
ask your question in the new thread
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>>102342006
>>102342020
>so mindbroken he admits he can't hit native
It's ok, you'll forget about it soon enough and buy Radeon again for all the exact same (wrong) reasons again next gen, just like you did this gen because you had to replace your RX 6800 XT after you meme'd about 16 GB

I don't need to give you any more (You)s
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>>102342052
>he is so out of arguments that he has to cling to misclicks and run away
Kek, he still can’t win
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>>102341995
kek
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>>102342151
lmao



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