bros all parts might be here tomorrow
but i still have no plan how to assemble my machine

>>102341790
just put the parts together and connect your wires to it

>>102341801
what if i break it

>>102341790
just make sure you don't use a phillips screwdriver to drive JIS screws, or a pozidriv driver to drive phillips screws, or the other way around, or any combination other than the correct one

>>102341790
start with the smallest parts (cpu, memory, ssd) that's already half the pc

>>102341812
practice on your old computer

>>102341812
then buy news parts duh

>>102341780
>biyearly
does this mean every two years or twice a year?

Thinking of a new build in january.

rtx 5090
d15 g2 noctua cromax air cooler
15900k arrow lake
64 GB ddr5 @ 6000 mhz
z890 motherboard
ATX 3.0 PSU

What am I missing?

>>102341834
k

>>102341834
why the slow ram?

>>102341790
>>102341814
Also make sure you get the proper size, I was halfway through my first build when I realized I was driving PH2 screws with a PH1 driver. I don't remember stripping anything but I could have.

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Is there any ARGB DDR5 ram that can change to a persistent color forever without it resetting back to rainbow after a restart? I've already tried Trident Z ram and i just want it to stay red and not have to bother keeping rgb software on in the background.

>>102341834
>future top end i9 on air on a z series motherboard
???

>>102341844

got any better RAM (with RGB)?

>>102341834
>What am I missing?
>rtx 5090
Money
>15900k arrow lake
and common sense.

>RX 6650 XT = 305$
>RX 7600 = 330$
>RTX 4060 = 350$

Those are the prices of each GPU in my country. Which one should I buy? I only play on 1080p, maybe in the future I'll upgrade to 1440p, but that won't happen anytime soon.

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Few days ago I posted this screenshot because I thought there was something fucked where it wasn't. Nothing to do with my display.
Thing is, it's hard to "show" but I have a game that does this weird stutter that's more like the image is trying to catch up rather than a full stop. It's really weird and inconsistent. It is trying hard to achieve a certain framerate it clearly cannot in some areas so it drops down, but it doesn't stay down.
Have you had something like this happen?

>>102341878

Will this not work? Think the CPU will run too hot? This is the best air cooler and should cover CPU's that need 200-250 watt...

>>102341883
uh I am not a pc part store

>>102341890
RTX 4060 for the DLSS

>>102341862
I'd say for a beginner the only thing to worry about are the motherboard standoffs, applying a pea sized thing of thermal paste on the center of the CPU (they always overthink this), removing any protective film from your CPU cooler, and just how much force the retention arm requires to lock into place.

>>102341890
RTX is always better than whatever AMD is doing if given the choice. No one here would sincerely tell you otherwise.

Show me games where raytracing is worth it
I just played minecraft with RTX, good shit and all but it's not the java version anyways and it's not that impressive honestly. But it does run really smooth

>>102341868
>i just want it to stay red and not have to bother keeping rgb software on in the background.
None. Either turn it off, keep it default (usually the rainbow puke) or download the bloatware that comes with it. Could try OpenRGB and see if your hardware is compatible.

Or just don't use RGB components.

>>102341890
I went with RX 7600 RT and it's been good for me so far, so I'd suggest that.

>>102341890
those cards could be 100$ cheaper and still be a scam, buy used

When are Arrow Lake motherboards expected to be officially revealed and fully detailed on product webpages?

>>102341834
>15900k arrow lake
ummmm its actually Core Ultra 9 285K

>>102342019
It also has universal framegen support and I could not in good faith recommend a gpu that doesn't have such extensive support of such a feature.

Building a PC for the wife. Any missing components that I'm overlooking? Cables etc.
>CPU:
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor
>CPU Cooler:
Corsair iCUE H150i ELITE CAPELLIX XT 65.57 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler + Corsair Elite LCD Upgrade Kit Ice (Clear)
>Motherboard:
Asus ROG STRIX B650-A GAMING WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard
>Memory:
Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6200 CL36 Memory
>Storage:
Samsung 990 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
Samsung 990 Pro 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
>Video Card:
PowerColor Hellhound Spectral Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card
>Case:
Corsair iCUE 5000X RGB QL Edition ATX Mid Tower Case
>Power Supply:
GameMax GX Pro Rampage 1250 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
>Case Fans:
Corsair iCUE QL120 41.8 CFM 120 mm Fans (x6)

>>102342066
you can just use LSFG. the whole framegen/upscaling thing has been solved at this point. there's no reason to pick one brand because of it.

>>102342066
If it's "universal", then the 4060 also has it in addition to having DLSS frame gen.
Being universal can not be a win for one product but not its competitor

>>102342109
Universal as in it doesn't require game integration.

>>102342097
>you can just use LSFG
So just spend more money on a feature that can be had for free elsewhere?

I have been running on a 500gb sata SSD I bought 8 years ago. I needed more space so got the cheapest 500gb nvme gen 3 SSD I could find(ORICO J-10). Do the thermal pads and heat shield do anything.

>>102342083
There's so much wrong with this that it's making me think you're a master baiter.

>>102342142
it's $7 and lets you run SOTA framegen on all hardware. it's better than afmf 2. really no contest for a driver-level framegen solution. it even lets you do x4 now which is totally ridiculous and it works.

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>zoomers cheer for a slop model hallucinating the video details for them
tick tock
only a decade or two before what's left of humanity (no I don't count anyone browner than 3 on the Monk scale as part of humanity) willingly wireheads itself out of existence

>>102342181
All components are compatible and favorably reviewed. I don't see the problem.
Care to elaborate on your thoughts?
My priorities were fairly straightforward.
1. White and/or Silver with suitable surface area on plastics for custom paint.
2. Mid/High-range components suitable for 1080p@144hz with potential for 4k@60hz
3. AMD ecosystem (RT does not matter, Intel isn't trustworthy)
4. Slight future-proofing via AM5 board, 1000W+ PSU, 20GB+ VRAM. With this in mind I think I'll do 2x32GB for the RAM.

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>>102341890
>I only play on 1080p
If you're playing any new games, DLSS is a lifesaver with a 4060. Optimization + DLSS will give you the best balance of performance and image quality, and you'll be able to hit around 60 FPS without much trouble

>>102342019
>RX 7600 RT
>RT
>radeon
Good one, sometime type of Freudian slip

>>102342306
Why aren't you on the front? You are being invaded.

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This is my current PC plus a 2nd monitor for work.
Is any of this still usable for modern games, or should I start over with a brand new build?
Not going to change my monitor, so I want to plan for 1440p at 60fps or above.

>>102342301
I went down the list and found issues with basically every component. Then the grenade-tier PSU put it over the line. I'll enumerate them if you like?

>>102342334
Slap in 5600x or 5700x3d. Get a 4070 Ti Super or (((wait))) for 50 series

>>102342345
Please do. I'm open to suggestions.
I guess now is the time for
>Budget: US$5000
>Country: USA
>Use: Gaming, Emulation
>Aesthetic: White/Cyan

>>102342373
Just because you have 5k doesn't mean you have to use them all or throw them at random BIG NUMBA components.

Hey everyone. I really want to get a second monitor for my LG C2 42in. It's been great and I have no complains, but I'm having trouble figuring out a good monitor to compliment it, specifically an OLED.

budget =<$1000

>>102342334
It really depends on what you want to play. CPU is 'good enough' and the amount of RAM and speed is also 'good enough'. If I was you I would replace the GPU first.

Out of all those parts, the SATA SSD is probably the only thing you can keep if you do a full upgrade. And even then it's probably just going to be delegated to extra storage. It's 'fast enough' for playing games off of but it's such a low capacity drive that you could barely fit 5 modern games.

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What's with the X870 pricing? People love USB 4.0 that much?

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Finally managed to mount my 4080S. Have my DP cable plugged into it and no error lights are lit up, but I don't get any image.

What to do? Should I wait or unplug and replug cables or what?

>>102342373
Okay. Here you go:
>CPU:
Fine.
>CPU Cooler
Massive overkill for a <100W CPU.
>Motherboard:
Also overkill but I assume you're paying for aesthetics here.
>Memory:
Bad in two ways.
1: Speeds over 6000 don't auto-sync so manual tuning is required to realize a performance benefit.
2: Will probably be slower than a conventional 6000C30 kit anyway due to higher latencies.
>Storage:
Again just overkill for a gaming rig.
>Video Card:
You've made your stand here so I won't try to sway you beyond saying that AMD cards on normie PCs is inviting suffering.
>Case:
Hotbox. Get the 5000D Airflow if you like the Aesthetic. If you just want glass on three sides then look for something with a side intake (H9 Flow?).
>Power Supply:
As mentioned.

Don't get me wrong, if you fix the PSU and RAM it'll run fine but you're still spending way over the odds for no benefit. Half the stuff doesn't even make an aesthetic difference.

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>>102341891
Use RTSS to limit to 100 FPS and see whether that solves your problem. Also disable V-sync if possible

>>102341960
>Show me games where raytracing is worth it
Cyberpunk 2077, Dying Light 2, Metro Exodus, RTX Remix games, etc
There's quite a few

>>102342334
5700X3D + 4070 Super

>>102342416
I would WaitTM just a bit and see whether a Pulsar equivalent will come to OLED

>>102342474
>no cable plugged in
???

>>102342484
I have it plugged in, that's just a pic I snapped to show that I can't snap the last grill back because of the edge of the gpu hanging over.

After I press power first cpu and dram lights flash, then vga and boot light up solid for like 5 seconds and then all the error lights are out.

What to do?

>>102342572
what CPU? might be doing memory training

>>102342480
Not this guy but a couple of revisions.
For CPU cooler and want something white then something like the Thermalright Notte is a good choice.
For RAM a non-RGB stick I recommend is the Teamgroup T-Create Expert 32 GB. It just looks so sexy.
For storage keep the 1TB SSD and maybe think about using a SATA SSD if it's cheaper. If not then just get the NVMe.
For the case something like the Hyte Y70 is a cool looking aesthetic, if you're into that. I'm assuming you're not going for practicality and more aesthetic. If you want something more practical then the Lian Li Lancool III is a good choice.

>>102342595
7950x

Now I plugged into the mobo DP and I post (gpu still plugged in)

Not sure what I should check in bios

>>102342630
Why didn't you test this out before building it in the case? Remove everything from the case, build it outside the case. Plug in your monitor to the GPU.
Now, does it boot up? Then it's not a hardware or software issue and probably you fucked up somewhere.

>>102342679
I'll give it all a rest for now as I'm a bit burnt out. I spent several hours fiddling to get the 4080 super in. I am tired of this shit

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my fellow nwords PLEASE help me im literally dying
I currently have an old 4k 60hz samsung and I want to upgrade to something good, but my budget is like 500 doler
I play games in 2k res so i thought that I should just get a 2k monitor, but I'll miss all that desktop space i had with 4k and I thought about 21:9

but the thing is that all curved 1440 UW monitors are VA, but regular 1440p ones are IPS
WHAT THE FUCK SHOULD I CHOOSE???

>>102342908
>desktop space
if you're on windows:
options>system>display>scale

>>102342482
>Use RTSS to limit to 100 FPS and see whether that solves your problem. Also disable V-sync if possible
Vsync is disabled, RTSS sort of works. What definitely works is setting Low Latency to Ultra. That makes it fully stable.

>>102342999
nah it's not the same desu. 2k scale won't hit the same as 4k
fuck, this shit is really making me insane. it's either a $9999 oled or VA for 21:9

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Dell G2724D are back up to $199.
Use code MONITOR10 for 10% off
Also had $10 in Dell rewards somehow, maybe because first purchase from Dell?

>>102343058
Oops, it MONITORS10 with an S

>>102343037
i'm not sure we're talking about the same thing. buy whatever you want anyway

>>102342908
>and I thought about 21:9
Think again, 21:9 is a scam to cheat you out of vertical resolution and charge you more for less than the cost of an equivalent mulit-monitor setup that would give you more viewable real estate and pixels. At least that's how it normally is whenever I cross-shop ultrawides vs. 2-3x 27" panels for people coming to this thread like yourself. Also ultrawide gaming support STILL isn't the best in the world:
https://www.wsgf.org/mgl_search
https://old.reddit.com/r/widescreengamingforum/

>I currently have an old 4k 60hz samsung and I want to upgrade to something good, but my budget is like 500 doler
$500 is a no man's land for LCD, too much to spend over budget 1440p offerings like the Dell G2724D (IPS) or AOC Q27G3XMN (VA) for half the price:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vyqrxr/dell-g2724d-270-2560-x-1440-165-hz-monitor-g2724d
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kJP8TW/aoc-q27g3xmn-270-2560-x-1440-180-hz-monitor-q27g3xmn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw9ByU6AOd8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbQ8Pe4WVxc

OTOH $500 is barely not enough to get into an OLED these days which will be a night and day upgrade over any LCD you could buy at any price (they start at $550):
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#P=7,9&sort=price&page=1
If I were you I'd save up for another week or two or expand your budget splurge-power and get a 1440p 27" OLED for gaming and movies and keep your higher resolution LCD as a secondary monitor for desktop usage/web browsing. This avoids the major pitfall of OLED burn-in and will give you the highest increase in user experience from the perfect contrast, viewing angles, better colors, and instant pixel response times that don't depend on the refresh rate.
The INNOCN 27A1S WOLED is $550 and the MSI MAG 271QPX QD-OLED E2 QD-OLED is $650, QD-OLED is slightly superior in terms of color gamut and volume as well as picture uniformity but either again would curbstomp a $1500 LCD.

>>102343001
Nevermind. While Low Latency to Ultra helps a lot, limiting framerate through RTSS still makes the game sort of "judder". Just not as much.

>>102342480
>Bad in two ways.
I don't mind tuning, but that's a good point about the latency.
>Overkill
In my experience storage fills up fast, specially so when I'll be filling it up with ROMs and games.
>AMD cards on normie PCs is inviting suffering.
I'm inclined to agree, and was considering the Gigabyte 4080-Super Aero, however the white-tax brings it up about $400 over the 7900XTX and I felt that the higher VRAM outweighs DLSS and Raytracing. Benchmarks say I'm retarded however, so I may end up just going with the 4080S.
>Hotbox
that's a fair criticism and I'm using a 5000D for my own machine so I don't see why I shouldn't get one for hers.

>>102342615
>Thermalright Notte
it is a very good looking cooler, and I really like the infinity mirror logo, however it was important to have a functional display.
>Teamgroup T-Create Expert 32 GB
Never seen this brand, but it does look sexy and I'm not dead-set on RGB RAM.
>Storage
1TB is for the OS, 4TB is probably overkill, could just use a 2TB but I am going with NVME due to load times.
>Hyte Y70
this was under consideration, not sure why I chose not to go with it.

I appreciate the feedback and suggestions, Anons.
I think what I'll do is drop the Gamemax for a Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 Snow, swap out the Dominator RAM for T-Create, and go with a 5000D.
Still undecided about the GPU, but thinking over it some more I'm leaning towards the 4080-Super.

>>102341834
A fire extinguisher

>>102343228
Teamgroup are a well known brand for ram.

>>102343264
They're solid but I mostly know them as a "generic RAM" brand company. I buy them whenever I need RAM for OEMs or old PCs. Have worked perfectly for years now. For a custom built PC, I'd probably go with G.Skill instead. Doesn't really matter unless you're buying cheap and/or from shitty brands.

>>102342908
>but my budget is like 500 doler
Punt with 27" 1440p. It's cheap and you don't have a big enough budget for 4K
If you want ultrawide, look into the Gigabyte M34WQ, but considering it'll probably cost twice as much I'm not sure it's worth it

>>102343228
>I felt that the higher VRAM
Retard

Remember more than 4gb vram for 1080p is just a meme to sucker people who don't know anything about computers.

>>102343492
>what is generative AI

>>102343510
You're not doing that locally.

OLED has ruined LCDs for me. I look upon my old screen with barely controlled disgust now. Both calibrated to 200nits and the oled is on another level entirely.

>>102343675
that's why i'll never make the jump. i'm still at 60hz for the same reason(i also don't play multiplayer gaems)

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Thinking about getting an OLED but not sure what to pick

>Alienware AW2725DF
QD-OLED, 360hz, much better warranty in my country
>Asus XG27AQDMG
WOLED, 240hz, glossy panel similar to my LG C2 which I really like

Is one of those strictly better than the other? I'm aware of the issues of QD-OLED in general but haven't really seen a lot of reviews on the Asus as it just released apparently

>>102343855
I prefer colour volume over just blasting white so QDOLED > WOLED.

>>102343855
I prefer seeing black over just blasting purple so WOLED > QDOLED.

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>>102343892

>>102343970
>turned off
oh thank goodness

>>102343970
Is that a ThinkPad? I really want one.

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>>102343855
As others have said QD-OLED will have a wider gamut of colors and every color other than White will look brighter on it (volume), see this in-depth analysis:
https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/exploring-oled-brightness-improvements-woled-vs-qd-oled-and-the-need-for-new-metrics-and-specs

Also the QD-OLEDs coming out of Samsung's factories for whatever reason tend to have tighter panel uniformity (less dirty screen effect) than the WOLEDs from LG's fabs. I don't know if that's an inherent consequence of the competing technologies or just down to the respective quality control measures of each company but as an observation from reviewers it is what it is.

In general, unless the WOLED is significantly cheaper I'd go with the QD-OLED.

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Asking again in case anyone has other build advice:

Hey,
Currently I have a gaming laptop:
Intel i9 14900HX
Nvidia 4080
32gb of DDR5
2 4tb NVME drives

It's on its way out, i've had 3 new motherboards from the manufacturer and they all died the same, long, slow, degredation like death. I've got it under a store warranty that gives me a gift card for it. Saying that,

I'm in the US. My budget is 2500 dollars. I have 2 1440p monitors but i'd like another monitor of some kind to replace the built in laptop display. I have a mouse and keyboard, and i'd be reusing my nvme drives. I was thinking of going linux for this one because of how awful my windows 11 experience has been, so I heard AMD gpus were good for that, but correct me if i'm wrong. The CPU has to be AMD. These recent intel cpus have been nothing but shit for me.
I play a lot of games, only at 1440p but at the budget i have i'd like to have the option to play any game at 1440 max settings. I do some video editing and productivity things. I record and stream on occasion for tournaments I run.
Thanks in advance, let me know if you need any more information.

I can't decide whether to get the 4070 super or the 7900 gre for 1440p

>>102344081
GRE

>>102344081
If you can't decide then you can't go wrong with NVIDIA. AMD cards have driver issues and usually takes a couple of days to get fixed, if at all. It's more 'friendly'.
AMD is nice on Linux machines, more so than NVIDIA. But if you had to ask I'm assuming you don't eve use Linux.

>>102344121
Yeah Im on Windows and I've never had an AMD card so I would be more comfortable with the 4070s but the 12gb VRAM is concerning me

>>102344177
Well, 12GB of VRAM but knowing your GPU is compatible with every game and every piece of software out there VS More VRAM but having to deal with games not working out of the box and more MINOR issues you have to deal with.

Triple A developers are pretty good at updating their games to run on AMD cards, it's indie games that don't do them because they can't be bothered. I'm not saying AMD doesn't work on Windows, but I am saying certain applications and software have minor issues that you have to find the fix yourself, hope the developers fix it, or find an alternative.

>>102344024
I'm aware that QD-OLED is generally the better tech, I think I'm mostly scared about the screen coating and "purple" reflections like >>102343970 shows as there's a window right in front of my desk.
There were hundreds of posts with users having damaged their QD-OLED by just gently wiping it, is this something that was fixed or made better?

>In general, unless the WOLED is significantly cheaper I'd go with the QD-OLED.
In my case the W-OLED is $150 cheaper, not sure if that makes it any better. I also really don't trust Asus at all if I have any need for servicing in time

>>102344024
That is a fascinating article that - at least to me - highlights how a lot of old testing gives an incomplete picture (heh) of how displays actually look in person.

>>102344238
>There were hundreds of posts with users having damaged their QD-OLED by just gently wiping it,
I would advise not using sandpaper to clean your screen.

>>102343970
>buy qdoled
>its fucking purple
>the fucking thinkpad has better blacks
what a waste of money

>>102343970
By the way, how is that VIVO mount from Amazon? Been wanting a monitor mount too but the pole variant instead. is it a good brand?

>>102344443
There are TONS of posts on R*ddit where people just wiped the screen with a clean microfiber and still ended up with visible scratches.
I know for sure that Dell changed the packaging of their QD-OLEDs due to the panels coming scratched from the factory.

>>102344800
meant for >>102344272

>>102344238
>I'm aware that QD-OLED is generally the better tech, I think I'm mostly scared about the screen coating and "purple" reflections like >>102343970 shows as there's a window right in front of my desk.
A shade/curtain is enough control of the ambient light to keep the blacks from going purple. And it's not something I've seen anyone complain about while using the display with real content as opposed to a full black screen.

>In my case the W-OLED is $150 cheaper, not sure if that makes it any better. I also really don't trust Asus at all if I have any need for servicing in time
$150 is probably a fair discount for WOLED's shortcoming, but only you know your budget. Keep in mind many PC users spend far more for modest gains in FPS which are only evident for the time you are actually gaming where as the benefits of a good monitor are 100% present for the entire time you are using it with your PC no matter what.

>>102344800
>people just wiped the screen with a clean microfiber and still ended up with visible scratches
people are nasty
they probably fucked up by having sand particles stuck in their cloth

I swapped to a 4k monitor and holy shit everything looks fucking small i regret this purchase.

>>102345044
set scaling to 150%

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>>102330298
>>102344126
(Picrel but changed motherboard to Asrock B550M Pro4 and PSU is actually System Power 9 not 8.)

Thoughts? Tips? Anything I should be wary of? This is intended to be for a PC that's on 24/7 (home server/NAS) so temps, stability and watt usage I tried to take into consideration (hence the ECC ram and G Pro CPU)

>>102345118
I was gonna say it looks good but then you said it's going to be on 24/7.
lol
lmao even
good luck, champ.

Is there an easier way of finding dual rank memory other than searching amazon reviews and praying you get dual rank too?

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found on reddit

>>102345239
needs moar fans

>>102345239
only 11 fans? what a poorfag!

>>102345239
>>102345257
>>102345329
>200mm front fans
>140 fans
>120 fans

Which is best

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>>102344081
The only way you buy the 7900 GRE for 1440p is if you're making a HUGE bet on FSR getting good. Otherwise, DLSS makes almost every game better, as current games require DLSS to hit 1440p and this is only going to get worse for the GRE as time goes on (i.e., lower and lower input resolutions, where FSR is even worse)

>>102345239
Why do they always choose to exhaust themselves from the three fans in the front like that? Because it gives a better view of the fans? These people are animals.

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Is this build alright for a 1080p monitor and casual gaming (meaning fps usually stays at 30fps and never 120p, occasionally 60fps, and won’t really play those demanding games like wukong)
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rd6twg

>>102345175
Care to elaborate?

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>Not having 4090

Get a job

>>102345412
some of them are reverse blade fans (hopefully)

>>102345412
>>102345469
What's wrong with having no front fans? QRD

>>102345412
Reverse blades are a thing

>>102345479
positive/negative pressure, if you have all your fans set to exhaust you you're creating a negative air pressure inside the case that will result in air being sucked in through cracks/crevices'

Are SSD thermal pads/heat shields a scam? Especially for pci3/4 ones?

>>102345660
Depends. Most motherboards have their own IO plate and it works with the current tech we have right now. PCIe gen 5 isn't available to the public but it's been reported that it produces a lot of heat, more so than the motherboards heat plate.
So, PCIe 3 and 4, they are a scam. PCIe 5, it might be needed but no real world numbers yet.

>>102341790
For my first build I specifically bought a case that had a youtube video of someone putting it together. But honestly the only complex part is wiring

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Intel 13/14th gen are fucked so you are left with 12th gen which beats AM4 for performance and leaves you with an upgrade path when they fix their shit with Bartlett Lake if that is true. But then... you have a processor that is power hungry, needs some contact plate to ensure it will last long and not bend and the motherboards are also expensive if you want something with good vrms capable of handling the cpu unless you snag a Z690 for cheap or something (like this MSI on Amazon for 145). So what is the use case for them? If you're on a budget AM4 works. If you have a bit more money you can surely afford DDR5 for AM5. If this like the middle option?

>>102345808
For my first build my parent broke my 1060 that I spent with my own money because they thought I was wasting my time. Oh man, I remember crying so much that time. Luckily I had a CPU that had an iGPU but I wasn't able to play my games.

>>102345971
>7800X3D
>4090

No excuses, anon

>>102345334
As many of the biggest that fits, usually.

This is the build I have so far: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/H92pyg
Is this good for 1440p gaming? And is the CPU bottlenecking the GPU? I'm new to PC building so I'm unsure if the parts I chose are compatible. I tried to aim for 1500 CAD (without the monitor) but went above by about 200. Is it possible to shave off a few bucks?

Interesting note for new socket motherboards for upcoming Arrow Lake:
https://videocardz.com/newz/next-gen-z890-motherboards-to-ship-with-intel-default-profile-enabled-by-default
>On another note, motherboard manufacturers also mentioned that the Intel Z890 chipset motherboards will mainly ship with the “Intel Default Profile.” However, the BIOS will allow manufacturers to add other profiles, such as “Extreme Profile,” for users to select.

>>102346346
> I tried to aim for 1500 CAD (without the monitor) but went above by about 200. Is it possible to shave off a few bucks?
Yeah, I think you can do better here. Give me a few minutes.

Should I get an RX 7900 XT or am I gonna get fucked by next gen games going hard on raytracing and tensorshit?

>>102346430
I'd wait for RDNA4

>not waiting for RDNA5

The RDNA69 will be the king of cost per performance, just wait.

>>102346430
>am I gonna get fucked by next gen games going hard on raytracing and tensorshit?
Yup

>>102346346
>Is this good for 1440p gaming?
Yes.
>And is the CPU bottlenecking the GPU?
Stop thinking about this. Certain games WILL ALWAYS bottleneck the CPU while other games will do the opposite. The CPU and GPU are good performance to price ratio.
>I'm new to PC building so I'm unsure if the parts I chose are compatible. I tried to aim for 1500 CAD (without the monitor) but went above by about 200. Is it possible to shave off a few bucks?
Easily. Don't get 2TB. Get a smaller drive, 1TB, and only upgrade when you absolutely need it. Get a cheaper motherboard and a cheaper case too.

Best I could do.
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/BpNRZJ
Also Memory Express can do price matching where they match the price of the item AND THEN remove 10% off too. Could get a sweet deal with a GPU or CPU or motherboard.

>>102346514
Oh, made a mistake. You can remove the case fans. The case itself comes with 3 fans pre-installed.

>>102346450
>>102346459
RDNA4 will be out in like a month, telling someone to wait does no harm

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>>102346346
>>102346423 here
Alright I'd swap to the 12600KF which saves you $60 and is around the same perf as the 5700X3D in games (so it won't be a bottleneck on the 4070S), while it's slightly more powerful in general usage applications.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-9-9950x/27.html

If you still want the 5700X3D order it on AliExpress and save $25
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007442107865.html

Any cheap tower cooler is sufficient for such a lower-end chip.

Did you NEED integrated Wifi? You could save $20-30 on the mobo if you just plan to run Ethernet (you can also buy an add-on WiFi Dongle later if you don't require it immediately).

All modern NVME storage is basically the same in real-world performance. No need to pay any premium here.

Way overspending on the case and necessary fans.
Slightly overpaying for the PSU.

Edited PCP List: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/84w9fy
Same or better performance, now inside at your ~1500 CAD budget.
Again, can be even cheaper if you don't need WiFi.

>>102343058
Lucky bastard. It's $280 here.

>>102346538
Yeah, and it's a mid-sized die that isn't going to be faster than the 7900XT, will have improved RT performance but still be average due to CU count.
If you're in the market for that tier of performance then it's a total gamble whether to wait or not.

>>102346346
The days of CPU bottlenecking GPU have been constantly moving behind us. The new hotness with renderers is GPU-driven rendering, where you have compute shaders generating the draw calls and doing the sorting and culling right on the GPU, so the CPU doesn't do much other than upload buffers when state changes. We're constantly trending towards them becoming more and more asynchronous. Whether the CPU or GPU is the bottleneck is mostly up to individual use cases, not the GPU being starved because the CPU can't give it work to do.

What are good and relatively cheap motherboards to pair with Ryzen 5 5600X?

>>102345337
The dlss help my 12gb vram super in 2035? My next upgrade will be in 2035.

why is the amd gpus division so incompetent? is this the result of dei?

>>102346514
>>102346565
Thanks guys I really appreciate it

>>102346629
I thought rdna2 was ok

>>102346592
>why is the amd gpus division so incompetent? is this the result of dei?
1. Divided resources and attention vis-a-vis CPU division which is currently the favored child for Server/DC Revenue
2. Related to #1, starved of resources to hire a larger army of coders to make sure their drivers and game optimizations actually squeeze all of the performance out of their silicon possible
3. Competing against Nvidia that never took their foot off the gas unlike Intel
4. Being a slave to TSMC constrains their ability to compete on volume or price even while they lose the war on features and performance compared to Nvidia that will pay whatever it takes to remains on top
The only good AMD generations are when they are basically contracted by Sony/MS with console cash to make a new architecture for them which they can then port over to PC.

>>102346674
Meant to reply to >>102346629

>>102346674
So RDNA4 will be good because of the PS5 Pro and whatever Xbox pulls out of their ass in response?

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thoughts including price?

I want another SSD and I've got a bunch. The idea is I use this one as my main drive and my current main drive (kc2500 that I got for cheap). I want all of my old data too. I don't have any issues with the performance of the kc2500, so I could get a shittier one, then clone the contents of this drive to that and reuse my current one, but I'd rather not. I'm leaning towards the P3 Plus based on cost/performance and reliability. I have some hesitation towards it, I see some fearmongering with QLC and stuff, but I don't know how true it is, and considering most of the PC building world is underage and just parrots Mr techtips's thoughts, I don't know what to trust. The cheapest stuff is from brands like Silicone Power and Adata, but I'm not that keen on having all of my data nuked one morning. It doesn't have to be limited to this list.

>>102346684
I am expecting that, yes.

>>102346684
>PS5 Pro
It's using some mismashed RDNA2/3 + .5 features for better RT/AI upscaling performance, not true RDNA4
>Xbox
Lol Microsoft's out, they might get into handhelds though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKtUJ2nDxZo
Bulldozer II Electric Boogaloo

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ksyMBL 1500 - 1600 USD build I believe this should be a fine list now, but I am curious if any other changes should be made. Thank you in advance!

>>102346761
Should have released it as a 7001 series refresh and no one would have bat an eye, given how mediocre it is.

besides Jawa, offerup and ebay where is a good place to look for used GPU's? I kinda want to get that liquid devil 7900xtx

>>102346832
>besides Jawa, offerup and ebay where is a good place to look for used GPU's? I kinda want to get that liquid devil 7900xtx
I guess there's always Craig's List.

>>102346800
>Should have released it as a 7001 series refresh and no one would have bat an eye, given how mediocre it is.
True, but after two years of waiting I am not sure that would have been much better received especially since it would still have launched with higher ASPs before reality sets in as AMD always does. Remember the 14th Gen Raptor Lake Refresh came out only 1 year after OG RPL and in it's case the 14700K got more cores at a similar price to the 13700K, something Zen 5 didn't do despite being baked in the oven for longer.

>>102346566
2 days ago they were $179, wish I would have ordered sooner.

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I installed a custom frame on my htpc 12400f far too late and now it's being an AFRICAN.

Any good suggestions for a barebones kit? I prefer to go AMD for obvious reasons. Though it seems because of Intel's NUC push anything worth a shit in that sector is Intel.

I also don't trust the shills peddling Beelink. No Chinesium. I'm willing to pay 100-200 dollars more to avoid that for an htpc. Especially when all the small parts equate to more likely eventual failure rates.

>Coupon code for $20 off the mobo I was gonna buy
>PC Part Picker says the promo ends on the 12th
>Go to buy
>It's over now actually

>>102346704
>mismashed RDNA2/3 + .5 features
they can't because power issues, you can't use RDNA2 for that thing with 60CUs, do you even udnerstand what 60CUs is?

>>102346684
We have no idea. Depends what power limits and how high it clocks, price should be decent though, expect 4070S to become obsolete.

>>102346895
>I installed a custom frame on my htpc 12400f far too late and now it's being an AFRICAN
You fucked something up, don't blame anyone but yourself

>>102346899
google another coupon or try to talk to their customer service. doesnt hurt to ask

>>102346930
I didn't fuck up jack shit. It's not the TG frame with torque requirements. Worked fine for a year. Now I'm getting memory controller error bluescreens.

GN admitted this would happen eventually even with Alder Lake. It's a fundamental architecture flaw.

>>102346704
>>102346918
PS2 Emotion Engine and PS3 CELL were nightmares for programmers. the only people who actually got to use it to its full potential were Naughty Dog. People also forget that the reason Sony was so insistent on pushing their custom in the PS2 and PS3 was because they had plans to license out the Emotion Engine and Cell technology for other uses beyond video game consoles.

Kutaragi wanted the PS3 to ship with 1 cell as a cpu and 1 cell as a gpu. Mark Cerny is fucking insane for STILL having only himself know exactly how the PS3 worked and never sharing it with anyone aside from those secret CELL developers at Sony.

They were either falling behind in development, or realized that this was utter fucking stupidity, so they went plan B and asked Nvidia to give PS3's GeForce 7800 was also kind of old, being a pre-unified shaders design that was absolutely obsoleted within a year of the console's release by the 8800, bolted it on, and shipped it.

Mark Cerny wanted PS4 and PS5 to be AMD APUs because it was cheapest and easiest for programmers

FX-8350 @2GHz, a HD 7850 and a 5000 RPM hard drive are roughly equivalent to a PS4.

Ryzen 7 3700X and an RX5700 which are roughly equivalent to a PS5.

>>102346959
I don't know what GN said, but it's Raptor Lake. I doubt they said ADL. Anyway a locked i5 isn't going to degrade

>>102346780
It's your build, but mATX cases are a bitch to work in and have compromises for cooling. Also makes the choices for picking a good value mobo very constrained.

For just $10 more, might as well get the Phantom Spirit for the better cooling/noise:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zkWJ7P/thermalright-phantom-spirit-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ps120

That is a deeply overpriced 4070 Ti S, there are many other models for much less but the 7900 XT is cheaper than all of them despite being more powerful with more VRAM.
If you care about RT/DLSS etc: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BMgrxr/pny-verto-oc-geforce-rtx-4080-super-16-gb-video-card-vcg4080s16tfxpb1-o
If you just want the best Raster: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7dNxFT/xfx-speedster-merc-310-radeon-rx-7900-xt-20-gb-video-card-rx-79tmercu9

You could save $23 on your 2TB NVME:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Dpgrxr/leven-jps600-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-30-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-jps600-2tb

RAM looks good.

The RMe SKU line of PSUs from Corsair only have a 7-year warranty IIRC, while this same-spec unit from Thermaltake is $15 cheaper and has a full 10-year warranty:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/x4hv6h/thermaltake-toughpower-gf1-2024-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-0750fnfagu-p

>>102346997
>I don't know what GN said,
They explicitly tested and found all 12/13/14 gen intels will eventually buckle under the pressure of their flawed ILMs.

The Raptor/Meteor Lake voltage issue is just yet another flaw from their brilliant chip designers.

>>102347015
>ILM
Oh you're worried about bendgate
That was never an issue
It's a tiny difference in temps and it only matters at the high end, like an i9
You psyched yourself out

>>102347059
>That was never an issue
GN disagrees. I trust them more than you, a likely Intel shill.

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>>102347068
So you are a psycho

The fucks the point of the pcie fan mount for the Lancool 216?
As an exhaust it honestly seems to be detrimental, it just pushes cool air out.
As an intake there's barely a difference there. Am I missing something?

>>102347110
No, it's a meme. If you were to use it only use it as an intake fan. But like you said, barely any difference.

>>102347105
that has nothing to do with the issue. i came here to request an htpc barebones kit. i want no such advice from you after this exchange. you can stop replying now.

Is it worth it to stick with the iGpu of a 7600x until rdna4?

>>102347206
>that has nothing to do with the issue
That you broke your PC after psyching yourself out over a non-issue? Seems pretty on topic to me

>>102347218
Yeah rdna4 will be launched in the next 3 months

>>102347218
At this point, it can't hurt. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

People need to stop putting action figures inside their pc

>>102347297
never seen a black panther doll inside a case

>>102347297
Ya...no :^)

>>102347297
I thought it was tacky at first, but it's okay as long as it's secured properly.
I started sticker bombing my PC case. Whatever personalizes your PC more I can vibe with.

>>102344032
>It's on its way out,
How is that laptop with latest gen gpu already dying lmaoo

>>102346007
It's that good that it won't bottleneck a 4090?

>>102345462
No shit. You know what kind of shithole Haiti is? Of course they're amazing workers compared to entitled lards whose biggest first world middle-class problem is having a high enough credit limit to afford their next gizmo.

>>102347224
The only thing you proved in this exchange is you're an Intel shill.

Deepcool Assassin IV or ID-Cooling A720? Not buying Noctua because I hate Austrians.

>>102347896
why those? did the ones in ops post not fulfill your needs?

>>102347896
https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-Peerless-Assassin-120-Cooler/dp/B09LGY38L4?th=1
Here you go

>>102341790
If you have even a halfway decent case it's absolute piss easy now. My recent build versus my first one ~8 years ago was night and day, it was almost entirely toolless aside from screwing in the mobo, fans, and graphics card, easy cable management was built into the case, plenty of space to work. I was seriously astounded by how streamlined it's become

>>102347961
I tend to buy stuff and keep it for a decade so I like going overkill.
>>102347969
I know about this one, I'd like something bigger. I'd get the 140 variant if it were available in my country.

I just built my very first PC and everything is running extremely smooth and I'm getting 170fps in CS2 without it ever going down from that. Holy moly, anons, I legitimately thought I would have fried the entire computer but after using ChatGPT and reading the manual, everything turned out just fine. I was insanely tense about my first build and the cable management is completely dogshit, but everything works exactly as it should. The only thing I missed was one single case fan that didn't work, the other case fan working fine since there are only two. I can barely even believe I did it, I always thought I would have just bought a bunch of hardware and fry the entire thing because I'm a moron, but I'm extremely pleased to say that everything works exactly as it should.

>>102347988
Why wouldn't the Peerless Assassin like for 10 years? I guess there's no guarantee but a bigger price tag doesn't necessarily mean better longevity. Rather replace a 30 dollar fan instead of a 150 dollar fan.

>>102348005
It's not that it wouldn't live, I just expect future generations to be even more power hungry.

Also, since when does installing Windows require not only just an internet connection, but a wired internet connection? What a bunch of shit, it's like they want to make their software way more complicated than it actually is.

>>102348025
I dunno, I don't think their plan is to make hotter cpus, in any circumstance. No matter how far down the line it is.

>>102348034
PEBKAC

>>102348047
if youre not idling at 100c then youre not gaming

why did Zen 5 flop?

>>102348093
Zen 4 was too good. Unironically.

>>102347995
Well done anon. Enjoy your PC.

>>102348025
What CPU are you getting?

>>102347995
this is big, happy for you. enjoy

>>102347995
Can you post your build?

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>>102343119
>>102343119
holy shit thanks for the response. yeah unfortunately im not from US so my choices are not the same

seems like the ones my country got are:
1) MSI MAG 271QPX 26.5" QD-OLED E2 but 240hz version only. though i just found a 360hz one on our marketplace
2) gigabyte FO27Q3 27" but 360hz and REGULAR oled (not QD). i heard people are considering it as an alternative to that msi
3) samsung oddysey OLED G6, 360hz

I also heard they all have forced DSC so no dldsr. of those 3, what should I choose if my priority is long term stable work. I just want to buy something and forget about it for >5 years at least. the prices are somewhat same

>>102348112
I'm not getting anything, I already have a 14900K (this is the part where you laugh). I have a very old AIO (almost 8 years) and the pump started making noises the other day so I guess I need another cooler, and I'm not falling for the watercooling meme again.

>>102347896
just get the peerless assassin. there's no reason to pay 3-4x more for something that has a fraction of the reviews of the peerless assassin, which has proven its worth

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>>102348137
I always get kinda apprehensive about posting my build on /g/ since I'm not exactly ricer maxxing, or maybe also because my CPU is not unlocked when I could haven gotten an unlocked one, but I went from an old PC that used DDR3 to a build that uses DDR5, and that in itself is already a huge upgrade. For all intents and purposes, this build serves me really well, I don't really play very GPU intensive games, mostly just valve games, and for that it is running extremely smooth and I have no complaints. I'm actually kinda amazed at the fact that things load as fast as they do and the frames I get now. I cheaped out on the SSD since I didn't exactly have the largest budget on earth, and I bought a package that contained a MOBO CPU and CPU cooler plus 16gb DDR5 RAM. It was actually a steal, to think about how cheap it all was and how much better it is in comparison to my previous build.

>>102348194
>ask a simple question
>hivemind ignores it and pushes its own bullshit
This site really was better 10 years ago.

>>102348005
>>102348025
nta but the power consumption is mostly going up because of competition in the market. The manufacturers are juicing their CPUs to squeeze that last 2% out so they "win" in benchmarks. As node density increases you'll be able to set a lower power limit for minimal performance loss. You can already see this with top-end Zen4 chips where a 150W (PPT) limit is like 3% behind the stock 230W. On lower-tier CPUs the difference is even less because there simply aren't enough cores to make use of the high power limits.
What I will say is that the fans on those cheap dual towers are extremely low quality. You can definitely expect to replace them in that 10 year period.

>>102348213
its your money, youre more than welcome to buy whatever you want. but dont ask what to buy and have bad feelings when someone says youre overpaying

>>102347543
>bottleneck
That's a meme. 1440p and higher puts even less workload on the cpu.

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at what point is it just an intel thing

>>102347972
>needing a tool to screw in 5/9 components
>almost entirely toolless

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>>102348285
>he thinks of a screwdriver as a tool instead of an extension of his arm

>>102348252
those are meaningless numbers
show avx load at full clock

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>>102348323

>>102348323
The common denominator is always the 14900, even with water cooling and aio. Dafuq

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>>102348356
paying over 200 more for a cpu that runs hot hot that performs worse is wild

>>102348285
I'm gonna take the clothespins holding your motherboard in place and gouge your eyes out with them

not buying a new CPU till the 9950X3D

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>>102348252
crazy how someone is willing to spend money on a 14900k and custom loop and yet only run a 4080
>>102348323
picrel

>>102348093
braindead project management, rushed release, retarded marketing, AMD did everything it could to make it flop
I think it's all scripted, Intel accidentally fucked up too hard so AMD had to job too to not upset the status quo

>>102348444
its reddit bro, theyre already jizzing for the new iphone 16. they like to waste money

>>102348484
>its exactly like the iphone 15 but has a new hat!

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>>102348507
>buzzwords
>older
>new

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>>102348553
>faster

>>102348553
*yaaaawn*

>>102348553
>New color options
Do these people not use phone cases

>>102348553
>Support for ai
>Instead of supports AI
So it potentially supports it but doesn't??

>>102348553
>>102348484
Still using my iphone 11 because I haven't made it yet. I will only get a new phone every two years once I make $240k a year.

>>102348609
stop nooticing

>>102348628
big pimpin. social standards are dumb

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>only 4 real cores
Holy shit technology has regressed 10 years

>>102348676
>laptop shit
And I should care because...?

>>102348676
C cores aren't cuck cores, they're the same architecture

>>102341868
>>102341967
I avoid ARGB RAM because it needs an SMBus driver to be controlled. Hardware manufacturers almost never make good software, I'm not installing their pajeet ARGB drivers.
Motherboards, GPUs, fans are on the other hand generally good about ARGB control.

>>102348697
>3.7ghz
>2nd ccx
right, they have worse than e-core clocks and bad latency
literally worthless cores desu

>>102348697
>less performance, less cache, more latency
sounds cucked to me

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Is this a scam email? I just did a speed test and it's the same as before. I can't imagine xfinity is upgrading me 5-7.5x faster for free....

>>102348676
/g/ mocked me when i told them AMD will move to hybrid architectures too

>>102346617
You're definitely going to appreciate more VRAM by 2035

>>102348742
im gonna buy up spare 9800x3ds and 10900ks if amd transitions to big.shittle on desktop
fuck that garbage

>>102348729
with hyperthreading, not cucked.

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>>102348732
Nvm I just saw it said upload. It do be uploading faster.

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>>102341772
Why are the Ryzen 9000 CPUs not recommended?
They are a considerable performance and efficiency jump.
https://www.phoronix.com/review/amd-ryzen-9950x-9900x

Are the 7000s that cheap? Or is it because the Windows performance shenanigans?

>>102348825
diminishing returns

>>102348825
>Are the 7000s that cheap? Or is it because the Windows performance shenanigans?
Both. AMD almost surgically designed Zen 5 to be as unviable on Windows Desktops as humanly possible and the proof is in the pudding:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKtUJ2nDxZo

>>102348825
the 9950X is the best multi threaded cpu under threadripper atm

>>102348855
That's only affecting Windows, right?
I only use Linux, so I guess it's a non-issue for me.

>>102348894
>That's only affecting Windows, right?
Yes, it's "only" affecting the OS 72% of the global desktop market uses
>I only use Linux, so I guess it's a non-issue for me.
You are part of the elite 4-5%.

AMD spent two years and who knows exactly what ungodly amount of money and engineering hours to maximize the highest performance they could target for the smallest number of actual systems and applications with the most underwhelming performance improvements in several generations in every other instance resulting in the worst sales since the end of the Bulldozer/Piledriver/Excavator-era (not that they really care about non-EPYC silicon anyway).

This all-consuming lust for highly-narrow margins at the expense of widely-leverageable volume sets the entire industry back.

>>102348985
Well, I'm buying the CPU for me, so the Windows issue is just a curiosity.
Of course I wouldn't recommend the 9000 to Windows users then. But aren't you guys getting a Windows update that solves the issue and improves the performance greatly? I've read somewhere that it's on the Insider builds already.

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>>102349009
The update have disabled unneeded mitigations across zen3-5
zen5 still has performance oddities in intercore latency that amd has yet to fix but are working on making right

>>102349009
>Of course I wouldn't recommend the 9000 to Windows users then. But aren't you guys getting a Windows update that solves the issue and improves the performance greatly? I've read somewhere that it's on the Insider builds already.
That's the thing, early/preview testing shows that whatever scheduling fixes and other optimizations the new Windows update provides, confers roughly the same proportional uplift to Zen 3 & 4, meaning the performance uplift over prior generations (or lack thereof) is still not any better than it was at launch. To put it another way, the core deficiencies of Zen 5 were so bad that attempts to fix it in software/OS patches retroactively made two prior generations' performance better as a side-effect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izqEZmjTfuM

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Dumb question: is it alright for Noctua U12P to be mounted downwards? The fan is usually on the side on the pics and vids I've seen, but the brackets I've got only allow to mount it like this. The blades direction seem to match the GPU and the top fan.

Also, do I need to worry about Ryzen 7600 heating up to 90°C during Aida stress test with this tower? It also runs at 4.9-5Ghz, but as I know it should be fine even with the stock cooler.

>>102349088
>s it alright for Noctua U12P to be mounted downwards?
You can but it isn't optimal.

>but the brackets I've got only allow to mount it like this
I severely doubt that

>do I need to worry about Ryzen 7600 heating up to 90°C
Zen4 will do whatever it takes to boost as high as possible until it hits 95c. If you are getting under that then the cooler is more than enough for the chip.

>>102349088
>noctua mounting kit support ftw!!

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>>102349088
>Dumb question: is it alright for Noctua U12P to be mounted downwards? The fan is usually on the side on the pics and vids I've seen, but the brackets I've got only allow to mount it like this. The blades direction seem to match the GPU and the top fan.
It's not ideal to have it not directling hot air from the finstack in a straight line to the rear exhaust out of the case...
However, if that's how you have to mount then it'll do.

>Also, do I need to worry about Ryzen 7600 heating up to 90°C during Aida stress test with this tower? It also runs at 4.9-5Ghz, but as I know it should be fine even with the stock cooler.
These chips run toasty under max load and they try to clock as high as they can given thermal/power envelopes. Not unusual.
Importantly, you won't see those kinds of temps under the grand universe of most applications and in gaming.

anons, whats a good 650watts sfx psu. Both modular and non modular. My case is a Mechanic master C28

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Should I attempt to upgrade my CPU (inevitably mobo too) during nig Friday?
I see the prices are not great, not sure how to go about it.
>have a Ultra Durable mobo from 2016
>have an i5 6600 since 2016
>have an RX 2060
Should I go AMD? What mobo/CPU combination is good nowadays?

>>102349205
>Should I go AMD?
that depends on if the new intel platform is competitive or not
>What mobo/CPU combination is good nowadays?
this is the standard entry level AM5 setup
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pXf4Xy

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Poorfag here, I want a new PC and I used to have a rig with a 1200AF and I have found the Xeon rig for cheap on Ebay. CPU performance almost matches the R2 1200.

I actually use a Pavilion 23 as a giant tablet just to watch YT and transfer ISOs and Roms to my PS3.

Under $300 CAD in total, I already have a GTX 960 4GB and a 128GB SSD with my GNU/Unix OS on it and a few 1TB and 500GB drives in a box.


Should I buy and upgrade the RAM, SSD and GPU later? I just to be able to play DS3, Elden Ring, Hitman WoA, Sekiro at 720p if necessary with mixed settings.

Looking at getting a ryzen 5 7600 5.2ghz, will the wraith stealth cooler be enough for cooling?

>>102349240
xeons suck for gaming, you would be better off getting a 5600 and swapping out the 1200AF

>>102349240
If you have a 1200AF you (should) be able to bolt a zen 3 cpu into your platform - like a 5600 or 5700x3d.

>>102349240
yeah, $150 for a 5600 https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/dCm3Zw

>>102349312
>>102349313
Sold the rig, had to move out ASAP

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>>102349232
I think I could do a Ryzen 5 5600. Absolutely no possibility I can afford brand new intels.

>>102349393
if you've got $300 you're still better off going AM4

>>102349383
if you've got $300 you're still better off going AM4

>>102349448
Yeah but I need a new case, PSU, SATA cables, heating if not included, carbon pad. Very expensive in Canada

>>102349232
>>102349393
It's good though. I have 8GB Ram sticks.
Maybe get this CPU and a Ultra Durable Gygabite B550 mobo again.
Yes. AM4 is the only way to see some noticeable differences in games.
I can keep the 2060 for now too. I don't mind mid/high 1080p gaming.

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>>102349437
>>102349465
This bundle seems nice.
https://www.cclonline.com/mbb-gma-561-ccl-amd-ryzen-5-16gb-motherboard-and-processor-gaming-bundle-422756/

>>102341772
Are we not gonna talk about the bird?

>>102349506
birb acute
what else is there to it?

>>102349493
Disregard this. It's a just a 5600.

>>102349519
the best $90 gaming cpu on the market

>>102349579
Fuck, I am blind. Yes it's fine. 5600 is the one I am considering.

>>102349602
Bundle seems too expensive to me

Long story short, i put a dildo in my PC case to support the weight of my GPU and I guess because it's porous and cuz I smoke weed in my room the fucking things rancid, it's sticky and smells like shit. and i think the plastics started to melt, anyways, i need a new thingie to support the weight of my 3090, what do i buy?

>>102349916
>sticky and smells like shit
we all know what you did with it fag

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Why do Asus GPUs have these collectible cards?

>>102350043
yikes
the card borders arent even standardised

>>102347972
I have montech air max 903 is it a decent case? I found one video where a guy build assmebles a pc in it.
>>102341862
Yea I made sure I can fit my AIO and GPU into my case and got correct socket for cpu etc.

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I literally cannot find a single displayport cable in my entire flat
I gave my mate one a few months ago and that must have literally been my last one
unbelievable

>>102350160
Why would it ever compete with a good modern gen card

>>102350160
it doesnt have 64mb of infinity cache so i'd be surprised if it even performed like a 7700xt

Will a 5950X be enough to avoid major bottlenecks with a 3090/4090 running at PCIE 3.0 or should I just ditch my 3700X system and go for the new Pluton spyware CPUs?

>>102350160
ohnononono amtransisters?

>>102350299
your a good guy
get another one from amazon. i use the Club3D CAC-2068 dp cable and it's great for 3440x1440 175hz on my monitor

>>102350309
because they advertised it as being able to play 8k/60 FPS for modern games.

>>102350377
i've seen actual consoletroons think they're gonna get native 4k60 with raytracing in every game

>>102350377
Then they're retarded AMD said the same BS about the 7900 XTX

>>102350160
So am I good to buy an RX 7800 XT after all?

>>102350449
yes, there's a reason sony is saying its a 45% raw performance bump over the PS5 GPU when the 7800XT is an over 100% performance bump

>>102350449
It was a good card it just made no sense to buy when they released the 7900GRE for a few dollars more a month later

Just AMD things

>>102350403
how do these companies lose money when their consumer base is so stupid

>>102350299
>>>/int/brit

>>102350043
Maybe some collectors junk someday when asus goes under

>>102350504
because they release shit like concord that nogs don't want to play instead of cawadooty

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thanks for the advice /pcbg/

>>102350558
shoulda bought a ps5 pro

>>102350558
Ah another "I haven't built a PC in 10 years what should I get my budget is only $10,000" success story. The /pcbg/ boomer special.

>>102350594
bitter poorfag

>>102350600
anyone can build a rig like that on credit

>>102350600
Nah it's just fun to see lol it happens quite often

>>102350594
u right but u jelly

>>102350350
gen3 doesnt matter
single core performance matters way more. the 5950x should be able to handle a 3090 but the 4090 is fast enough that even the 7800x3d becomes the bottleneck at times

>>102350632
tru
the noctua fans is always the giveaway lol

>>102350648
>>102350648
>>102350648

>>102350644
>>102350644
>>102350644

>>102350645
at the same time turbonerds also spend massive amounts on these. i have yet to try some

>>102350650
>>102350653
ebin

>>102350666
>666

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>>102350650
>>102350653

>>102350675
XDDDDD

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>>102350650
>>102350653

>>102349041
>>102349062
That's so weird. I wonder why Linux is not affected.
The Linux reviews give the 9000 an excellent performance uplift, as seen here: >>102348825

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bro why the fuck do i want to buy a xiaomi 21:9 VA monitor. seems like a good deal for a poorfag with $300. instead of buying an $800 oled i think it will be better to upgrade my GPU instead

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Can I keep my tower and install a new mobo in it? Will it matter if it will be intel or AMD?

>>102351538
Depends on your CPU
Can't go with a Intel CPU and a AMD Mobo because the socket is different.
>Can I keep my tower and install
When your motherboard has the same formfactor as your new one has, yes you don't need a new case.
Google your old motherboard.

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Is 100 a good price for a Ryzen 5 5600?

>>102351607
Yes sorry, I know that intel and AMD use different sockets/mobos.
That's cool. I will keep the old box.

>>102351608
Why don't you buy a ryzen 5 5500 is cheaper in AliExpress I think for burgers goes for 65-80