>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use cases.State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC>CPUWeb browsing: 5600GBudget: 12400F, 7600XGaming: 7800X3DWorkstation: 7900XAVOID: Intel 13/14 series>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge/Arctic Liquid Freezer III, Hyte THICC Q60Double towers: ID-Cooling FROZN A620 PRO SE, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67>MOTHERBOARDASRock B650M-HDV/M2, B650 LiveMixer, B650 Steel Legend>RAMDDR4: 2x16GB 3200CL16. Budget, 2x8GBDDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30Workstation/high end: consider 2x48GB>SSD (OS drive)Budget: SN580Mid range: SN770Premium: Samsung 990 Pro (Windows only), SN850XFlagship: Sabrent Rocket 5>GPU1080p: RTX 4070 Super, RX 7700 XT1440p: RTX 4080 Super, RX 7900 XT4K: RTX 4090, RX 7900 XTXWorkstation: RTX 4000 Series, AVOID: AMD cards>CASE (from $ to $$$)mATX: Montech Air 100, Lian Li A3, Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li O11 Air MiniATX: Phanteks XT PRO(ULTRA), Montech AIR 903 Base/MAX, Antec C5, Lian Li Lancool 216/IIIAVOID: 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, 4000D airflow>PSUBudget: Gold rated 500-600W PSUMid range: ATX 3.0 compliant fully modular gold rated PSU @ 75% max loadHigh end: Seasonic PRIME TXAVOID: GAMEMAXPSU buying guide:https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/ (updated Q3 2024)>MONITOR1080p: KOORUI 24E3, MSI G2412F, MSI MAG 256F, MSI G244PF E21440p: ASRock PG27QFT2A, Dell G2724D4K: Acer Nitro XV275K, Gigabyte M32U, Dell Alienware AW3225QF>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansHigh end: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)Previous: >>102341772
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>third day of copying a hopelessly fragmented 8TB 5400rpm drive (NTFS)just kill me already
>>102350639>single core performance matters way more. the 5950x should be able to handle a 3090 but the 4090 is fast enough that even the 7800x3d becomes the bottleneck at timesIf that's the case and the current CPUs are bottlenecking the 4090 what's the big rush for the 5090 even for then?
>>102350740dd if of buddy
>>102350740bro...it's over for that drive. just destroy it.that'll take you DAYS to finish.
>>102350750shhhh just consume product
>>102350750''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''future proofing'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
>>1023507504K
>>102350758I'm not pozzing another drive with the fragmented fs.
>>102350780smart
god, I hope unRAID works. I'm just so tired looking for a decent NAS OS with VM support.
now that 3-slot GPUs are the norm, 4-slot ones are coming, and the GPU cross section is basically a square, when will GPU makes start mounting the fans axially?
IDK if this is the right place to ask but is there a company out there that would be willing to make a custom PSU cable with 11 SATA power connectors?Maybe an Etsy supplier you'd trust as I doubt some of the other suppliers would go along with such sillyness
>>102350750>what's the big rush for the 5090 even for then?more vram for ai fags and to run pathtracing on cp2077 and upcoming bibliogays
is oled truly worth it? not sure if I should get memed on one or not
>>102350987just go to a store and compare oled screens to other screens?
>>102350857I demand 5 slot gpus.
PS5 confirmed to be rdna4. Not news but it's nice to have some official figures.https://www.tweaktown.com/news/100452/sony-confirms-ps5-pro-ray-tracing-comes-from-amds-next-gen-rdna-4-radeon-hardware/index.html
>>102350987I bought one. I'm never going back to LCD.
>>102351127its RDNA3 with RDNA4 RT because thats cheaper than RDNA4, its aka RDNA 3.5
>>102351112that's a hot deshroud, makes me wonder if the nh-d15 fans would clip onto my gpu heatsink
>>102350987QDOLED yes, WOLED only if a lot cheaper.
>>10235075012400F OC can handle 4080 Super
>>102351127anon who was saying its a navi21 respin 2 threads ago got BTFO'd hard
>>102351156ACKSHUALLY it isn't a deshroud, but an entire heatsink replacement.
Thinking of doing the curve optimizing bullshit on my 5900xShould I be using something like corecycler for this? I'm trying to ensure stability as well. I don't know if there's currently any other good software to test this shit out.
>>102351127PS5 base is RDNA 2 stripped down, this article is retarded
So I'm dumb as fuck and I got a case with more USB ports than USB 3.0 headers I have on my motherboardAre those USB 3.0 splitter cables any good or should I grab some PCIe card for it? I have some free PCIe slots on my motherboard.
>>102351194that's cool, any idea what the heatsink donor was?
>>102351357what case is that?
>>102351379Well, more than the case it's a case plus an accessory. I got a lancool 216 with the extra rgb controller just thrown it because I didn't want the side to be empty. But it somehow didn't register that I would need two of those headers.
>>102350987OLED is a huge upgrade; instant response and infinite contrast, and it's totally free in terms of computer resources.don't fall for the 4k meme, though. scaling is bad.27" 1440p 240hz+ OLED is endgame territory, and they're everywhere for like $600 now. don't use it as your main monitor though, for many reasons- not RGB subpixel layout- white background will use like 300% the power of an LCD, so documents and webpages- burn-in more likely with all of the static UI of normal desktop tasksthey will last as long as an LCD if you use it for videos and games
>>102351501All those cons is the reason why I will never use OLED.I tried OLED. It looks so fucking good, but the fact that I can't use it for everyday stuff is what kills it for me. It's like buying good and expensive plates and cutlery but only using it once a year. I will never understand it.
>>102351360Raijintek morpheus II
>>102351316PS5 is RDNA2 with RDNA 3 RT
>>102351584PS5 is Navi 12 you fuckwit that's RDNA 1. It's RDNA 1 with RDNA 2 features backported just as this is RDNA 3 with RDNA 4 RT backported
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a57NRJixQosThis is what you're buying your 4090 for
>>102351700physx engine from 2006 does it better
>>102351700its basically a ps4 game with raytracing slapped on like resident evil 4 remake.
>>102351700>102351700>>102351708>>102351732Minecraft has better developmenthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4LznrTk6S8
>>102351700You can play much better looking games with a 4070 super with 12GB of VRAM
>>102351700I jsut finished it, paid $5 btw, it looks good. It's AC Odyssey in space, It was 7.5/10, needed more side quests.
>>102351545just use a g2724d as the main monitor, and then when it's time to watch a movie or play a game, run it on that monitor. simple as. you'd be using it daily anyway.
>>102351700I got a new GPU and I got this for freeI redeemed but didn't play it because I don't think I want it even free, it's a chore to install it and try itThankfully Ubisoft is going under and Gillemot is about to resign and they can eat feces for generations
>>102350987Once you OLED you will never NOLED
Should I get?
aaaaaaaa can't wait for Arrow Lakedo you think we will be able to get 64GB DDR5 DIMMs next year?
How do binned GPU's work exactly?Nvidia produced a chip with 2000 cores, all 2000 work properly, they sell it as-is as something called RTX **90?Then another chip of the same make only has 1947 cores out of 2000 working so they disable those that don't work plus 147 more and the chip with 1800 working cores is now called the RTX **80 model?
>>102351700This being the free game from NVIDIA is truly proof of them not giving a shit
>>102351894some cores are dead. some cores are alive but cant clock as high. some cores can crash at high clocks but do good voltage at low clocks. its complex.
>>102351604no it isn't, it's literally Navi 22
>>102351890get a 4070ti super instead
>>102351919why downgrade? 256bit bus is worse than 384
>>102351925xtx is fine for that price, except its usedif you can get a 4070 super, 4080 also cheaper because its used then itd make more sense
>>102351894That's a simple way to put it but it's more complicated than that
>>102351925its faster in RT, has dlss and doesnt consume a gorillion watts
>>102350750non real time work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubwNBKh-6uYThe exact moment AMD Radeon decided to abandon the "high end" (actually the midrange considering a 4060ti did 4x better than this).
>>102351911>>102351945But the number of cores on every GPU model is exact, doesn't that mean that they almost always disable healthy cores in order to meet that number?OR, do they specifically look for cores that work but not as well as could be, so they disable those and leave only the top performers?In that case, the models where ~33% of cores are disables could actually have the best per-core performance.
lower the prices GPUs need to lower their prices
>>102351984>disable healthy cores in order to meet that number?Yes, way back when you were able to reactivate these cores on certain products. It wouldn't always work, but it worked enough to be known about.
>>102351890I would.
>>1023519404080 used is about the same price but has 8gb less vram>>102351959RT is a joke
I only have 2 slots for NVMesI plan to replace a 2TB HDD I have with a 2TB SSD, but I'd rather have those not populated by this particular drive.I thought of either grabbing a SATA SSD or an external one, Crucial X6's seem cheap. I don't have much of an use for the external factor though. What would be a better option?
>>102352160Huh? Just get NVMEs and populate the slots.
>>102352141we’re soon going to cross the point where games require RT
>>102352183I already plan to grab 2 (one for the OS, one for storage and game installs). This is just a "backup" (non important stuff that I just want to keep somewhere) drive, but I want to replace that one first.I thought of using just one SSD for the OS and everything else but with how often I fuck around I like the idea of having a separate drive for the OS.
>>102352141vram doesnt actually increase games fpsits just memory
>>102352232Well yeah but can you install games on it?That's what I thought
Day 525 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.
>>102352220If it's a backup the X6 is fast and reliable. It's actually better as external for just a cold storage backup you can keep somewhere safe.
>the sata cable from my power supply is not powering my external ssd Why the fuck is this not working
>>102352279>external ssdwhat
>>102351894That's how they do it up to a point. There are also binned versions of chips with the exact same amount of cores enabled but higher performing ones (higher clocks at lower voltages) get sold as higher tier products like what happened with "A" and "non-A" rtx2000 gpus where the latter had worse clocks and had a strict locked down power limit.Also yields are bad to a point such as having 99% of your chips having 80% or more of it's cores working. So to service the lower end of the market, Nvidia and AMD designs smaller versions of the flagship chip and use it in lower tier GPUs so they don't have to needlessly cut away 40-80% of a fully functioning die and waste silicon. So GPUs like the rtx2080 super has the fully enabled version of a smaller die while the rtx2070 gets a binned down version of the same chip while the 2080ti uses a bigger die and 2060 a smaller die
Bros, help.I have this Asus Z790 Plus motherboard and it doesn't recognize my NVMe M.2 2280 SSDs as a bootable device. I even bought a new SSD and it still doesn't work. I read the manual and it should be compatible with that. In the UEFI BIOS thingy, on "Storage Information", the device appears properly (RAID: KINGSTON SKC3000D2048G) but it doesn't appear anywhere else. I tried plugging a bootable windows USB and it doesn't recognize it either. I updated the BIOS to the latest version (aug 2024).I am losing my mind.
>>102352160Usually not a fan of those external SSDs. I still prefer buying internal and using a USB to SATA adapter instead. No real reason other than the fact that if I ever want to put the SSD inside my PC I could easily do that. Externals I have to transfer files over.
>brain still in the era of i52500k and 1060ti>got a used 3070 but now need a modern CPU>Intel apparently shit now>AMD has the better price and performanceIs switching over to Team Red scary?
>>102352291lol I meant non m.2. The box looking ssd mfers
>>102352348well if you can wait intel is going to release 18A node cpus eventually, or use tsmc to make something decent ish
>>102352345you can't boot from it before you install a bootloader on it
>>102352348Nah it's a painless switchYou can get a Ryzen 5 7600 for a budget build and should have no issues after updating to the latest bios
>>102352375Doesn't that come with modern BIOS/UEFI?
>>102352397???What did you put inside your NVMe? The fuck? It's supposed to be empty.
>>102352364sata ssd inside the pc?is the sata cable connected properly?
>>102352397did you install windows/linux/bsd/apple on it already?
>>102351564that's really cool, did the heatsink come with the fan clips or did the fans?
>>102352407>>102352444So, I had two NVMes. One from my old setup which had windows installed on it and etc, and this brand new NVMe. None of them is recognizable as an available booting device. I took out the old NVMe because I was worried that it may be interfering with something, so I planned on installing a fresh windows on the new NVMe just to make sure everything is working properly.The thing is, when I try to install windows on that NVMe, the windows boot installer doesn't recognize it (it is missing even from the 'diskpart' and 'disc list' commands when I access the CMD (shift+f10 in the windows installer)
>>102350644>Web browsing: 5600G
>>102352448The heatsink. The fans are just some SP120's I had floating about. That cooler could handle well over 400w.
>>102352472Web apps
>>102350644>State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.Around 200 - 450€ / GermanyI'm upgrading my old office pc, will mostly play older games on it like BF3/4, older MMO's (WoW), Esport Titles like Valorant/LoL and do office stuff.My thoughts were I either could go:Ryzen 5 5500/5600 and RX 6600 8GB orRyzen 3 3100/ 5 4500 and a RX 6400 4GB or GTX 3050 8GBOr I simply throw a Ryzen 3 3200G/3400G/4600G/5600GT with an integrated Graphic ship on it
>>102352471https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/windows-installer-cant-see-nvme-drive.3542560/
>>102352471Make a new Windows boot installer usb stick.
>>102352509you can buy a 5500gt/5600gt and try the integrated graphics. if it doesn't satisfy your needs then you can buy a card.
>>102352509you may also be interested in 8600Gthe integrated graphics in that are basically twice as fast as the best AM4 integrated graphics
>>102352547>if it doesn't satisfy your needs then you can buy a card.Should I then go for a RX 6400, because I only need the VRAM or buy a RX 6600?
Wow, only took them a year. Guess that is when the timed exclusivity ran out.
>>102352631anything under 6600 is garbage and waste of money
>>102352624>you may also be interested in 8600GGotta look into that thanks>>102352660Yeah but I could save a little bit of money that way. I know that the 3050 8GB is much worse than the RX 6600 but I would save 50€.
Hello anons, trying to build a sff with a 4060LP would you Zotac single fan? or gigibabyte/asus triple?
>>102352472designated shitting scripts
>>102352636you could add amd frame gen with a mod after amd open sourced it couldnt you?
>>102352636I understand why they signed a contract before tw3, but why would they sign it for 2077?Those contracts need an FTC review.
>>102352732You can use a driver for that, when devs implement it properly it works better.
>NVIDIA CEO Says He Can Switch From TSMC If NeededI really want to see TSMC tell nvidia to fuck off someday and watch how nvidia crashes and burns without node advantage.
>>1023527693000 series was made by samsung
>>102352769only one with tsmc node advatage is apple
>>102352783and samsung pulls out of 2nm GAA in US because it can't do more than 20% yields, TSMC rules the world for the next decade.
>>102352636>Intel XeIt's Xer turn!
>>102352720But the zotac single fan isn't LP at all?
>>102352783That's why it was trashGa102 is the leakiest piece of silicon ever, much worse than raptorlake even
Ryzen 5 5600 for $100, is it good?>>102351879>ryzen 5 5500It feels like a 9% better performance will be worth it to go 5600.https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-5600-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-5500/m1822932vsm1820844
>>102352995don't go to that websitetray 5600s are $90
>>102352995only 5700x3d is worth it for am4 with current prices
>>102352957A 4060 single fan doesnt count as a Lp? Oh, better question. How good is a 4060 single fans cooling? or the triple fan is just better
>>102353014>2x price of 5600.
>>102353103yeah and the performance is worth it unless you're fucking poor
>>10235313Well yeah, I am asking for deals on a budget or sales.
Heard running AIDA SHA3 tests ensure overclock stability much faster than fucking around with Prime95 and the like at least on Zen4 chips, what about Zen3?
>>102352521>>102352522Thank you bros, I'll try this asap
>>102353103Cute cat
>>102352348am4 is the best use of your money in a decade
Finally posted with display plugged into GPU. I had to use the stock 3 prong cable bundled with the gpu instead of the one on the right that was bundled with the PSU (I tried that one first)The other one shouldve worked also tho, no? Oh well fuck everything I have a PC
>>102353475Why don't gpu manufacturers start putting the power sockets on the back of the pcb and facing upwards? What is even the point of the current solution that forces you to do the u-turn?
>>102353502because it would require some expensive PCB
Picrel is the table from Wikipedia's AM5 article.Can anyone explain to me what's the difference between the B650E and X870 chipsets?I'm buying a Ryzen 9900X and need to choose a mATX motherboard.
>>102353502They are eventually making those. But rather than a socket it works like a CPU instead. Where you plug in the sable to the motherboard and the motherboard channels the power to the GPU.Asus us making them and I believe MSI? They call it Back to Front and Project Zero.
I just upgraded my system, minus GPU, to a 7800 x3D DDR5 system from an r5 3600. I have a 6700xt gpu. I'm tempted to order a 7800xt or 4070 super, would it be stupid to upgrade the GPU at this point considering new cards are out soon? I gayme at 1440p with a 165 hz monitor. My games run fine, but I lack impulse control right now.
>>102353797just wait for 5080
>>102353797there's no point waiting at all shit is months away and you could have a gpu tomorrow
>>102353797I can also get a 3080 cheap from ebay
>>102353545We already have cards with vram on the back tho.
Interesting:https://www.tweaktown.com/news/100452/sony-confirms-ps5-pro-ray-tracing-comes-from-amds-next-gen-rdna-4-radeon-hardware/index.htmlSo the 2-3x RT performance claim could be real.
>>102353475im not getting a nvidia gpu because those apple tier dongles are retarded
>>102353889>nvidia creates shitty rt gpus in 2018>consoles add that level rt in 2024 for mid range pc prices>maybe in 2028 ps6 can actually run portal rtx at 60fpswow I sure love technological advancements
please someone help me choosing a monitor, it's driving me insane nowseems like the ones my country got are:1) MSI MAG 271QPX 26.5" QD-OLED E2 but 240hz version only. though i just found a 360hz one on our marketplace2) gigabyte FO27Q3 27" but 360hz and REGULAR oled (not QD). i heard people are considering it as an alternative to that msi3) samsung oddysey OLED G6, 360hzI also heard they all have forced DSC so no dldsr. of those 3, what should I choose if my priority is long term stable work. I just want to buy something and forget about it for >5 years at least. the prices are somewhat same
>>102353937dsc is fine and has no real issuesjust buy samsung g6> I just want to buy something and forget about it for >5 years at least>my priority is long term stable workHow about an ips display that wont burn in.
>>102353937Option 1 is the best in terms of image quality due to both being QD-OLED and a glossy coating (the Samsung in #3 uses a matte coating that ruins the clarity and lushness of the image). For long term use I recommend also getting a cheap throwaway office LCD for main desktop/web usage and using the OLED for Video/Gaming only so it's doesn't burn-in prematurely.
idk.. good 2k ipses cost like 500 dolers, it feels overpriced as fuck. for 700 I can buy an OLED. am i wrong?I can't find a decent 1440p IPS for a decent price. it's either just bad or overpriced af>>102353960why do you think that samsung is better than the other two?>ipshonestly i don't even know what to choose.>>102353988do you wanna say that OLED will burn in even if I use it every day with giving a fuck about safety shit?
>>102350644Built office PC for my dad during the GPU shortage.Slow boot times (25 seconds to desktop from cold start) brought me here.It has Samsung M2 SATA 860 EVO with 98% health left.Crystal mark and samsung magician are showing low numbers marked in red / darker blue.Pic related,any guesses why?Sequential writes should be 500 and random writes 200.Magician reports balanced profile, will performance mode increase or something else is issue?
>>102354117Uh, if it's just booting (ie reading from the SSD) then write speed shouldn't matter. But those read speeds are disgustingly slow. Can you check SMART data?
If you had to guess, what would be the performance gain with the 9800X3D relative to the 7800X3D?
>>102354161>those read speedsI meant write speeds. I'd still like to see the SMART data though.
>>102350644Budget: 2000 eurCountry: Ireland (Amazon UK)So after reading the guides and asking here this is what I want to buy. Ready to order it now.Any last minute advise or suggestions?
I want to be able to sort of mute a HDD until I need to access it, which is rarely. Without just buying an external enclosure, all I'm getting now is the hard drive to either constantly spin or wake up from sleep at random even when I rarely access it myself because Windows is just like that. Obviously I don't think it's great to just open my case to plug and unplug the drive everytime. What would you recommend?Would mobo SATA hotswap settings help there? maybe under that mode it doesn't behave the same? Should I go bother /fwt/ for a Windows solution?
>>102354168none
>>102354218Samsung 980 is overpriced. Especially for 2TB. Just get a smaller drive, like 1TB.But hey, your money.
>>102354080>do you wanna say that OLED will burn in even if I use it every day with giving a fuck about safety shit?If you let it run it's panel refresh cycles on schedule it'll be good for at least 3 years. If you don't and treat it like you would an LCD with a lot of static content and don't make use of the included panel safety features it could burn in in 6 months which I why I recommend using your current LCD if you aren't posting from a laptop or getting a dirt cheap one to use for non-dynamic content consumption. Think of OLED like a giant wax candle that is constantly burning it's wick down.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wp87F6gczGw
>>102354168It isn't called Zen 5% for nothing.>>102354080Forgot to mention in >>102354274 that using a black background, hiding taskbar, etc. should definitely help with lifetime.
>>102354255Switch to full SSD
helpneed okish smol speakers if i'm not to heavily restrict my choices for a monitorhelp
>>102354260I would still like to have 2TB Is there anything cheaper?
im a bit of a retard so forgive me if this is a dumb questionis there something like a motherboard heatsink that isnt for your SSD or the CPU cooler?
>>102354311Budget? Kanto YU2 is pretty small.
>>102354258>>102354307With the lackluster launch of 9000 series I guess I'll just stop coping and buy the 7800X3D now. Always some new shit about to come out anyway.
>>102354308I could but I'm trying to avoid spending money
>>102354161>>102354178I will post them in a bit, my father is using the pc atm. But everything reports drive smart status ok, no logs in magician no anything.
>>102354323Ask yourself why you need 2TB and think REAL hard if you really need it. You could get a fast 1TB NVMe and a slower 1TB SATA SSD if all you really need is storage. If you are reading and writing large files constatly, and I mean large files and I mean constantly, like 30GB+ and every 30mins or so, then you can justify spending money on a really fast NVMe.I'm one of the few people that like having my OS and everything else separate. 500GB really fast NVMe, 2TB SATA SSD for my stuff that I access constantly, and a 120TB HDD server.
>>102354325Yes, any size aluminum heatsink is available on AliExpress, pretty affordable too and lots of sizes or designs.
>>102354325Most decent motherboards have heatsinks on the VRMs. If not you can buy some, but probably not necessary>>102354218980 Pro isn't that great. Either get the 990 Pro or the SN850X>>102354168Low unless there's some magical interaction between cache and cores>>102354080>good 2k ipses cost like 500 dolersNo they don't
>>102349119>>102349146Thanks for the help, anons, and sorry for the late answer - fell asleep. Just moved from over a decade old Intel so almost 90°C seemed disturbing.>I severely doubt that The thing is, I got the tower used for cheap, with no parts other than the mounting kit for some old LGA. Looked it up - seems like I could turn it 90° with the different springscrew brackets, but the AM5 kit I bought only included the mounting bars. I wonder how it managed to fit at all with those LGA parts, even rotated, but can't complain - didn't cost much and cools sufficiently.
>>102353937>I also heard they all have forced DSC so no dldsrThis is wrongDLDSR only doesn't work with monitors that require 2x HDMI and DSC.>>102353898You're a moron. Native 12VHPWR is a single cable>>102353889>So the 2-3x RT performance claim could be real.Very unlikely. We'll see though, as RDNA4 isn't that far out>>102353797>My games run fineThen no. WaitTM until there's some game you actually need more performance for. E.g., I'm kind of waitingTM on the next Metro game. It'll probably have great (read: demanding) RT/PT, so I'll probably gauge my next graphics card purchase on that
>>102352319That's surprising actually, I thought yields would be worse now than before because they're working with such small die sizes.But what I really would like to know is, is it better to buy one of the 100% chips or one of the ones where cores have been disabled?For instance, the 4070 Ti has the full 7860 cores of the AD104 up and running. That might sound pretty safe (especially when recalling the GTX 970 fiasco) but you might also think of it as Nvidia being lax on quality control here.If all 7860 cores are running, it's reasonable to assume that some of them only perform "well enough" by Nvidia's standards. Maybe they generate a bit more heat but only around 3% more so it's not a huge deal.Whereas with the 4070 Ti SUPER, they disabled 1792 out of the AD103's total 10240 cores, leaving only the most efficient 8448 cores active. So you might be tempted to think that that would give you a better per core efficiency.What do you think about this?
>>102354329Feel like I'd need to half both the price and size, I'm more flexible on the price. Really I've been playing on a 7+ year old budget TV for a while so sound doesn't have to be too great, just no easy distortion.As an example shit like this will make my TV speakers absolutely choke lately.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO1ckl6O6J4
>>102354274>>102354117jesus christ. I heard that a good VA is better than some cheap ips. is that jewish propaganda lolcan you recommend some decent 1440p IPSes that don't cost almost like a fucking OLED please?
>>102352982Still better than RX 6000 while being on a worse node>>102352636>no one cares about radeon on pcColor me surprised. Only AMD pays to keep its competitors out of its sponsored games, because of course it doesn't want comparisons between DLSS and FSR, as FSR is so obviously garbage
>>102354521im not buying a new psu for a retarded cable
So my 10 year old build finally kicked the bucket. On Monday I found out that one of my ram sticks burned out, so I ordered some cheap ddr3 ram to replace it, and the parts came in last night. After slotting everything in, I couldn’t get the machine to post so I gave up and handed the machine off to a friend who’s less tech illiterate than me, hoping that he might be able to fix the issue.I don’t really have the money for a full build atm, I was saving up to get something really nice after tax season. I know you guys generally look down on pre built PCs, but can anyone recommend something under $700 (I can go very slightly higher) to tide me over for a few months while I save up for a more elaborate build? I’m a pretty casual boomer gamer. My current games right now are WoW, FF14, Dota, and Deadlock. None of these are particularly hard to run, they ran just fine on 10 year old hardware.
SLI is gone and nobody cares.
>>102354454>VRM heatsinkyes thank you, i was watching a pc build video some time ago and i forgot the nameknew there was something
>>102350987>is oled truly worth it?Yes>>102351890>Should I get?Nohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfI9rmTnxe8&t=331s>>102354673You're also not buying a good GPUSo obviously you don't have money for a good PSU
Just bought this at 620usd. I'm coming from a 3060ti. How hard did I fuck it? Now I'll just wait until the 6000 series.
Is a water cooler a "nice to have" for a 7800x3d, or should I just go for the peerless assassin? Also how is TeamGroup RAM?
>>102354759Is what it is. Personally I would have tried to make the 3060 Ti last until the RTX 5070. You could optimize settings and use DLSS and still hit about 60 FPS in the latest games>>102354807https://pcpartpicker.com/product/99XV3C/thermalright-frozen-prism-704-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-frozen-prism-360-black>TeamGroup RAM?Fine
>>102354759I went from a 980 to a standard 4070 and it's a pretty huge upgrade.
>>102354807I've gotten high temps in certain scenarios but so far so good with the PA.
>>102350644>Gaming: 7800X3D>AVOID: Intel 13/14 series
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>>102354960>>102354948>>102354933>>102354910???
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>>102354933>if you're a gamer you're a ni-K-KF-er
>>102354948>recommending igpu-less cpus to creators>late 2024
Need a replacement mouse. The mouse wheel for the Redragon Fyzy M995 stopped working and when I opened up to see why, the axel was snapped. All the other buttons work. Any recommendations? I prefer wired, but can also go for wireless if extra money is needed in exchange for integrity
>>102354970Bot broke?
>>102354178Here it is.I have a suspicion that something else is at play, either bios fault or the second spinning HDD is causing some kind of conflict with the sata controllers.
>>102354373>>>I'm one of the few people that like having my OS and everything else separate.It's mad to me this is the few people now. I can't imagine only having one drive in my daily system.
>>1023547593060Ti is slipping and 5070 will likely be a dud with also 12GB of VRAM. probably will be mid 2025. Just get the 4070S and not wait 8 months, 3060Ti is similar to a 1080Ti with less vram and no tensor cores/DLSS so it's not doing so good even at 1080p.
>>102355062what are igpus for in a creator workflow? genuinely curious
is the rx 6600 for $200 my best bet for 1080p gaming? gonna play modded Skyrim? Anything else better value?
>>102355142g203 honestly
>>102354373desu you can fill 1TB real fucking fast. Databloat train is not stopping.
Any overclocker here?I'm trying to overclock my memory but I'm getting screen flickering. The system is kinda stable but when there's a high usage of memory bandwidth the screen starts flickering.It probably needs more voltage somewhere but I don't know which voltage.I'm using integrated graphics.
>>102355322Quicksync
>>102354705it became unnecesary except for VRAM poolers and Nvidia was of course going to put a stop to that
>>102355411SLI and XF never pooled VRAM in games
What happens if you get a new motherboard and change the location (connectivity) of the hard drives?Assuming you set up properly the boot drive in bios on startup.Will the rest of the drives have issues?>have system>had to get more drives>Frankenstein the whole thing>end up with all kinds of drives>C is a 2.5 sata SSD>there is one WD Black HHD>one M.2 directly on the mobo socket>one M.2 connected on SATA express on an adaptor like a PCI card>tfw I still use the factory intel fan and had no issues in 8 years
>>102354960as a mainstream customer that needs email and youtube I'm very happy to know that I can add 192GB of RAM to this computer
>>102353256>>102352521>>102352522Update, that link worked!! I managed to install a fresh windows in the new SSD. I'll try to add the other drives now, but AFAIK it shouldn't pose a problem. Thank you once again!!
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>>102355451>>102355577And seeing by the graph, I am forgetting where the 5th drive is. I am pretty sure is on a hidden M.2 port maybe.
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>>102355331Could buy 1070ti used on ebay for that moneyBut if you want a new card that isn't sloppy second, the RX6600 is your best bet.Could go for a 1650 or 3050 but they're worse than the RX 6600 for almost the same money.
>>102355332Will look into it, thank you. I also had a recommendation for the wireless MX Master 3S mouse, so I'll think this over as I readjust my budget
Upgrading current build components. Initially I was only going for a case and AIO fan upgrade, but I'm debating if I should change from Intel to AMD CPU now to save the hassle.>CPU:i9-9900k to Ryzen 7 7800X3D>CPU Cooler:Hyper 212 Black to Frozen Edge 360>Motherboard:Asus PRIME Z390-A to ASRock B650 LiveMixer>Case:NZXT S340 to Montech Air 903 Max>Video:RTX 3060ti>Memory:Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32GB (2x16) DDR4 3600 C18>Storage:Ultrastar DC HC550 16TBWD 1TB SN550 NVMEWD 2TB HDDWD 1TB SDD>PSU:Corsair RM750x 80 PLUS GoldDoes the current build still sound fine with the CPU Cooler and Case and wait for a sale, or should I go ahead and get the motherboard/CPU upgrade? I'm going by the sticky recommendations, but if there's other suggestions I should go for, let me know.
>>102354933>THE WORLD'S BEST OVERCLOCKING EXPERIENCE69
>>102355796Current CPU is fine with a 3060 Ti unless you're trying for extreme framerates in some multiplayer game or you play CPU heavy games like Stellaris or Factorio
>>102355347Just delete shit you don't need. I transfer stuff from my server to my main rig constantly. I can have 10 triple A games in 1TB but it's not like I play them all at once. Get a cheaper 4TB SATA SSD instead for storage.
>>102355451Shouldn't matter.
>>102354598Get yourself a $20 speaker from logitech then.
>>102353545>>102353502It's literally so they aren't used in rackmount cases.There is no technical reason to have them on the side.EVGA had theres in the rear but they where more than likely explicitly told it must be on the side and is probably part of the reason they left because it's a ridiculous request all to protect Nvidia's AI racket.Only recently have Gigabyte been allowed to have a rear 12VHPWR but GB's PCBs are also obscenely wide.
>>102355796I don't think you need to upgrade much of anything in a hurry really wait at least for new X3D
>Fuck around with boost override values and the curve optimizer>Go down and down and down on most cores to the point I reach -30 without normally crashing>Haven't noticed however that boost override was set to 100>Hey let's just try to set it to 200>Can't even go -10 on all cores without it crashing and burningDoes this make sense? Should I bother with boost override?
who will get upset with me if i pair a 7800x3d with a 3060?
do i need anything special to oc the gpu?
I accidentally broke one of the glass panels on my Lian Li O11 EVO Dynamic. Do manufacturers even sell those separately or am I cooked?
>>102356530No one. You can easily upgrade the 3060 later down the line.
>>102356569You are kinda fucked. Where did you buy it? If it was in a physical store you could go ask if they can sell you the parts if they have extra, but if not then you're kinda shit out of luck.
>>102356589yea thats what im thinking, the 3060 (12gb btw) seem like a really solid value card atm
>>102356598Big oof, I got it from an online store. Might as well buy a new case already... Thanks, bro.
>>102356561Good cooling
>>102356561Undervolting is where it's at these days
>>102356632I mean, you could try reaching out to Lian Li and plead with them and who knows, maybe they'll sell you one. Or other online retail stores.
>>102356561An clean agent fire extinguisher for when the power connector catches fire.
>>102353545every connector is an L shape soldered perpendicularly to the PCB tho
>>102356696>>102356667do i need a special motherboard for cpu ocing?
>>102350644Black man here. What pc parts should I borrow from my local pc hardware store?
>>102356742K for Intel, B or X for AMDBut depending on how far you're planning to push voltage, you might want a motherboard with exceptional power delivery or other niceties like a CMOS reset buttonBut if you have to ask these questions you shouldn't be overclocking
>>102356769Spark plug
>>102356111>There is no technical reason to have them on the side.Side connectors at least don't put any extra stress on the PCIE pins/slot/PCB, retards would inevitably snap their cards or pull the slot off the board putting the connector in if it was vertical.
Extreme newfag question here:Can I just check extra RAM in and it'll just work? I bought two 8 gig sticks a while ago, but my mobo has 4 RAM slots. I'm thinking about buying another two 8 gig sticks of the same type of RAM. Can I just throw them in there and be done with it?
>>102356804If you don't enable OC, it should 'technically work'. If not then you're going to have to play around with voltages and timings.
>>102356742All the mainstream AMD boards can overclock but should you? Not really.
>>102356769The electricity, pull out a socket out of the wall, grab the wires firmly and don't let go until you're fully charged.
>>102356804masterful, needful programming
>>102350644>Samsung 990 Pro (Windows only),why?
>>102356844Does that make you faster than Sonic?
>>102356856For whatever reason Samsung drives perform bad on Linux and degrade in performance on consoles. It's totally fine in Windows though. Probably has to do with controller firmware.
>>102356785The "rear" I'm talking about is the opposite end of the card relative to the IO plate
>>102356908f-fuck its too late, how bad is the situation?
>>102356944It only affects certain workloads99.9% of people will never notice
>>102356958goodim considering dual booting linux/windows, although only insofar as linux runs faster for the few things I spend a lot of time doing
>>102356169Boost override (iirc) pulls the entire voltage curve up to get more clocks so the undervolt will inherently be less as moar clocks = moar volts.
>>102356927>it's a 4070TiSDang, literally what i'm planning to upgrade to. How are Gigabyte cards these days?
>>102357151Fat and thick. It feels like you could drop it and it would survive.Just use the bracket they include of else you will end up with a cracked PCB because of how heavy they are.
>>102357174>>102356927Wait that metal shit on the pic is real and not some CG render? wtf
>>102357174>Fat and thick.But not sturdy apparentlyFEs need no bracket
>game: hey make this Nvidia/Console API call>driver: okay>GPU: wut is this monolith GPU shit?>game: hey where my API call?>driver: hold on>game: *pauses*>driver: *timeout*>GPU: *crash*
are there any new grafix cards that don't need external power?or is the best option still an 8 year old gtx1050/rx460
>7950X3D with Radeon 7900 GREbad?
>>102357265RTX 3050
>>102357241Because FEs are literally small. Gigabyte cards are basically twice it's size.
How do I decide on a motherboard? All these features, can't narrow down what would be best.
>>102357241No shit nigga. FE are tiny
>>102357283its fine if you dont mine core parking
>>102354759Nice dude, I'm holding out on upgrading my 3060 ti to see if Best Buy restocks the FE before I really need it near the end of the month. Little guy is trying his best at 1440p but just isn't really doing it. I want to turn up settings.
>>102357324If you don't know then you don't need it.Get a MicroATX with a PCIe Gen 4 x16 slot, 2 RAM slots and call it a day.
>>1023572837800x3d gets better fps
>>102357287>>102357327I was more thinking the 4080/4090 but ok
>>102357286>Being a dual-slot card, the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 8 GB draws power from 1x 8-pin power connector, with power draw rated at 130 W maximumthere's an MSI RTX 3050 Low Profile 6 GB which doesn't need extra power, but it's a completely different cardhow the fuck can they give it the same name and get away with it?
>Haven't touched my rig since 2016>i5 something 16gig ram gtx 1070I think it's time for an upgrade bwos. Is it better to wait until the AMD/Nvidia announcements so I don't get buyer's remorse?And will they show us a new X3D cpu.
>>102357264don't make mexican calls to taiwanese gpus
>>102357264Game dev nips are retards because it's one of the lowest professions in their country>>102357283>bad?Yes
>>102357367The fuck are you even smoking?4090 FE:L: 304mmW: 137mmH: 61mmTotal Volume in cm: 2540.5Gigabyte 4090 Aero OCL: 342mmW: 150mmH: 75mmTotal Volume in cm: 3847.5That's 51% bigger.
>>102357265Depends on how much you want to spend and where you live.
>>102357436Only if you're building top-end. Current CPUs are plenty for any sensible card pairing and next gen Nvidia midrange is a year away.
guys what gpu do i pair with my 12700k? currently on a used 2060was thinking 7900xt or waiting for 8000 series/battlemage
>>102357527for 1440p144+
>>102351156I wish we would get these kind of GPUs
>>102357601I'm down for it, would make vertically mounted gpus goated
>>102357265>>102357479
>>102357661The 3060 6 GB is actually pretty decent. Makes almost any prebuilt you can find viable for some low end gaming. Most PS4 games and below will run quite well
some retarded chink is selling a 7900xtx on ebay for 1100$would 700$ be a good counter offer?
>>102357708Depends where you live and if you have a 1050Ti or not.this link will give you all the cards without external power cable, availablehttps://pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#Q=0&sort=price&page=1
>>102357661+50% improvement in eight years, i'm honestly a bit dissapointedwhy doesn't AMD make a proper 75W card?
>>102357527>>102357534You're in the right ballpark. Any of the GRE, 4070S, TiS, 7900XT(X), and 4080(S) would do depending on your settings and upscaling preferences.
so battlemage will be a mid-range card at best...gay
One of you faggots posted about the Intel Xeon Phi coprocessor and got me really infatuated with it. But I want a low profile version of it but they don't exist.Does anyone here know of anything resembling the Xeon Phi that comes in a low profile variant? Specifically a coprocessor, not a GPU or accelerator. I've looked for about a week and cannot find anything that compares or meets similar criteria.
>>102352348Get alder lake, or raptor lake with Z moboOr just wait for arrowHonestly sandy bridge would be enough even in 2100+, no reason to upgrade
>>102357795Yeah just ((why))?Because AMD released the RX 6600 and it's the best low budget Card currently on the market even tho it needs external power.
>>1023578324070/ti are 1080p cards, 12GB VRAM is no longer good enough for 1440ppic related is space marine 2 maxed out at 1440p with dlss quality on a 4080
They say more cores/threads are better for strategy games but the 7800X3D mogs all of them. I guess cache is king.
>>102358025>depending on your settings and upscaling preferences
>>102358025I guess. Even a GayStation 5 has like 16GB or some shit but it's shared so not really. Either way, there's more to it than that or else a 4060 with 16GB would destroy the 12GB 4070. Mostly texture quality but a lot has to do with your resolution too.
>>102358025Only retards think VRAM allocation means anything
>>10235804412GB won't last long at 1440p unless you're okay with low-medium desu
>>102358108Almost never about VRAMAlmost always about performance
>>102358108DLSS is a pretty good futureproofer though
>>102358129now post ratio without upscaling
>>102357913Xeon Phi itself barely exists; getting one in a particular format might be asking too much. Which is a shame, ofc, because it is a cool concept.
>>102358138if dlss3 to dlss4 is as big as dlss2 to dlss3 then not really
Was going to get an i7-13700K but I noticed the KF is $30 cheaper do integrated graphics improve performance in any circumstances or are they completely superfluous?
>>102358144The 4070 Super is still betterBut why would it matter? They're both too weak for 1440p without reconstructionVRAM = meme
>>102358194>vram = memepost 1060 6g vs 1060 3g
>>102358178QuickSync for video editing, multi-monitor, and as a backup if your card dies. Probably worth $30 for the last one if this is your first build.
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Reminder: It doesn't matter what hardware you buy as long as you are happy with it.
>>102358220>multi-monitorInteresting I have 4 monitors so this could be useful. Do you have to configure something or does it just help in the background?>if this is your first buildNot my first build but I do like having a safety net and $30 isn't much in the grand schemeThanks.
>>102358279>Do you have to configure something or does it just help in the background?It doesn't increase performance or anything it just gives you another display output. >Not my first build...Than you probably have an old card you can use for backup instead. Still, could be worth the money if you don't trust your old GPU.
>>102350644>https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PCthis link doesn't work
>>102358234https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qA8WR8JXAI
I'm planning to build a very basic home server using spare parts from an old gaming rig I have. The hoarders were right. I don't care about aesthetics so all I need to buy are the hard disks (Ironwolfs on the next sale, if ever).How much of a disadvantage is it to use the Ryzen 5 2600 which I have as the CPU, as opposed to a CPU with integrated graphics? I have a spare GPU for the initial setup and can remote in afterwards, but how much idle wattage difference will there be vs some AM4 Athlon?
>>102358409Whole site is down at the moment.
>>102356002Can't find anything smol enough either. For context, this is more or less how my desk is looking right now (more or less 1px/mm, some objects' dimensions extra simplified, mousepad is super deformed with rounded corners so just dots for a rough outline, some things probably not measured quite right anyway).I wish good monitors with speakers were real... was so close to going for the XG27UCS.
>>102358412My nigga that card doesn't work because it was made in some warehouse in Xiazhouchienshang. They should've tried this with a better card.
>>102358514You're retarded
>>102350644Are Thermalright PSUs trusted?
bros im like 14 hours from having all my parts and assembling my computer
>>102358194If your game can't achieve over 60fps at native res on the most powerful cards your game is shit and you should try again
>>102358514it does work though.
>>102358619>>102358619>>102358619
>>102358565>resolution unspecifiedModern games are built around reconstruction. That's the only way that techniques like Nanite and Lumen are possible with current hardware performance levels
Retard question here. Thinking about getting a 1440 OLED monitor, MSI - MPG271QRXQDOLED 27" to be specific, was wondering if I can turn the refresh rate down to 120hz? I just like it better.
>>102358827You can but that is definitely retarded
>>102358025>12GB VRAM is no longer good enough for 1440pnonsense
>>102358444something as old as an athlon is going to be incredibly power hungry, and if you want to serve media from said server you're totally gimped with any amd gpu. Intel really dominates the use case you're going for unless you NEED huge media performance in which case ryzen cpu is ok paired with intel gpu
>>102359163Its what i do best
Thoughts?Will use mainly for gaming at 1440p and general use.$1500 budget not including monitor which I haven't picked yet. USA.
>>102359885I would get an R5 7600, considering the degradation problems Intel has been having. Tempting at that price point though.The Windforce is also one of the worst Gigabyte cards. Eagle or Gaming models have the Quiet BIOS switch
>>102360156>degradation problems Intel has been havingShit is that still an issue? I thought they had fixed the microcode.Good catch on the graphics card I actually had decided on the Gaming model just didn't put it correctly on the image. Thanks.
>>102360355>I thought they had fixed the microcode.Who fucking knows. The CPU is cheap but I'm not sure it's worth the annoyance of any possible instability
Updated build. Just gonna let it stew overnight and pull the trigger in the morning unless I find any amazing deals or find other issues.