>>102425674
>>he fell for the 1000W titanium PSU meme
Who? Read the PSU buying guide for your question

>>102425764
VRAM going bad is the main crypto risk. I wouldn't unless you are very sure it's not a card someone mined on.

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>what's the real risk in buying used gpus these days? Massive coil whine? Cryptards mining the shroud fan bearings to dust?

I'll add I can repaste and change thermal pads very easily, so I'm wondering what the catch most often is

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>>102425780
Can this thing run crysis in 1080p?

>>102425824
what are the symptoms of "VRAM going bad"?

>you either have the best or you will struggle to run games
what fucking games you retard clown there's virtually 0 good games that are hardware demanding nowadays
>inb4 but gta or something
are you 12?

>>102425795
no one in particular, but there are people who swear to the importance of PSU for your build while others will say anything will get the job done as long as it isnt lower than your GPU rec. watt

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How shit is this, bros?
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/sYbxyg

Moving to canada soon and while I feel somewhat safe about bringing GPU/Storage, Mobo/CPU seems like a disaster and the PSU needs a replacement anyway.
Is it worth the extra like 60 bucks to get 7600x and a budget cooler over just OC'ing the 7600 a bit (if that's even needed for 1080p60)?

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>>102425843
you can't predict it, modules can cascade fail after a few months you bought it. they abuse memory the most with crypto at 95-100C' usually at throttling 24/7. do not risk it.

Another day. Another no announcement or an Nvidia announcement that would announce the 5080

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YO, am upgrading the ol' x2700x workhorse and going up to the 5XXX series, but am debating between the 5800x and the 5700x3D. They're both essentially the same price in my country, however my only "concern" (rumored) is the 3D cache on the 5700x3D not being useful on a majority of the games I play, since I play a lot of older titles and want to use some of the more powerful emulators (reliant on high clock speeds obv). Is the higher base clock speed of the 5800x that much of a benefit as to snuff the 5700x3d, or is it neglegible and I should just nose dive for the x3d?
>sorry for blogpost

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>>102425593
> is the unlocked multiplier on 9800X3D gonna matter?
X3D cache don't like being overheat.
I have 7800 and didn't even tried to overclock it when using. It don't make sense.

Also you don't need water cooling on this series, because it's quite cold, I think 9800 would be the same.

>>102425879
>just OC'ing the 7600 a bit
it's not a thing anymore, it is worth it to get 7700 even at 1080, going to save you from various "bad optimizations" people complain about.

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Day 530 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.

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>>102425919
It will cost like a fortune.

>>102425919
>NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 & 4090D To Be Discontinued Next Month In Preparation For Next-Gen RTX 5090 & 5090D GPUs

>>102425925
Unless you're talking stability issues, then I wouldn't worry about it. The difference in performance would probably be negligible.

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>>102425843

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Rate

>>102425966
say what you want about how bad the cooling was, but I actually love the look of these OEM cooler designs

>>102425957
5700x3d it is, thanks fren

>>102425850
There are two types of people who understand psus;
1) those that buy high quality units at the wattage they need
2) those that buy chinesium

One of those will last you nearly forever, one will not. Anecdote time: I bought a super flower leadex 750w unit a decade ago and it not only still works actually gets a pretty damn good result in cybenetics testing. these days it is powering a 7900xtx, 5800x3d, 6 drives, an optical drive and my 32gb ram.

>>102425926
they've changed vcache for Zen5

>>102425984
Linus tech tips/10

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>>102425984
ugly case bro. here's mine

>>102425984
italian horn sign, holy roman empire eagle, some polish gibberish
polyglot/10

>>102426075
Does this belong to Garage54?

>>102425925
the typical max GHz for the 5700X3D is 4.1, while the 5800X is 4.5. The performance difference for older titles won'e be an issue, and any emulators that actually are demanding (xbox, ps3, etc... and above) won't see that much of a dip in performance as long as you hover above 4.0
>you're not gonna reach easy intel levels of performance unless you wanna shill big out cash for the new AM5 socket

I repasted my old GTX 1060 and the idle temperature went down from around 62 to 44°C. Is that normal? Just wondering since I never repasted a GPU before. Old paste was almost solid.

watercooling is a meme

Is there a massive difference between R9 5900X and R7 5700X3D? They're almost the same price. I'm squeezing the last drops out of my AM4 mobo, and was wondering which one I should get. I use my pc for gaming, dev shit and virtual machines because of uni.

>>102426144
>is lower temperature normal?
yes

>>102426169
higher boosts

>>102425940
>it's not a thing anymore
How so, I'm currently using an oc'd 5600 and it still works fine, from what I checked, the 7600 is a substantial step up. Wouldn't the 7700 be horribly overkill

>>102425780
>Dell G2724D
any good monitor arm under 100€ for a screen like this?

>>102426175
If you have software that can scale out to 24 threads and that is a majority of your use case the 5900x makes sense. If not, 5700x3d.

>>102426008
>Anecdote time
when i built my current computer i picked the cheapest one that would allow my gpu to function properly, no idea what brand or rating, and its trucked on with zero issues for close to 5 years now

Is the CPU the only factor determining the max stable undervolt or do the PSU and VRMs play a part, too?

>>102426563
For an undervolt yes, the cpu is the only bit that matters.

9800X3D waitbros...
How are we holding up?

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-4090d-discontinued-next-month-in-preparation-for-next-gen-rtx-5090-5090d-gpus/

IT'S HAPPENING

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It begins
Soon gpu countdown anon will have to find another thing to wait for

>>102426563
psu matters and vrm matters too

I can't believe the 4090 never dropped in price even once in these two years

WAITCHADS WINS AGAIN

>>102426732
>stop being poor

The Flux Pro looks so beautiful Antec back from the fucking ashes

>>102426802
I sort of want one even though I have no need.

>>102426195
Just wondering since a drop by almost 20°C seems alot and I even overclocked it befote without problems

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>AMD Says Its Expanding ROCm To Radeon GPUs & APUs, Opens Design Centers In Serbia That Will Also Work on Next-Gen UDNA Architecture
AMD making GPUs on sack of potatoes and vodka now, SOVL

>>102426849
gtx 1060 doesnt use a lot of power to begin with. it caps out at 120w. my cpu uses more power than that.

So what's the best cheap gpu option right now?

>>102426925
7700XT is as low as you can go if you value some comfort.

>>102426952
I was thinking more of the Intel Arc A750 or RX6600

>>102426970
may as well get an APU.

>>102426732
it was $100 below msrp during summer 2023 before ai chuds moved in

>>102426970
Of those two, the 6600. Realistically the 6600 out of all the <$200 cards.

>>102426008
You are gravely misunderstanding things
Your either new enough to PCs to endlessly parrot "don't cheap out on a PSU" or you have been around long enough to see the immense improvements in the PSU market to be able to say "just get the wattage you need."

You can look up 750w power supply on amazon and almost every single unit will do it job, it will deliver its rated power, are some of them maybe not the best quality? Yes, but this is LEAPS AND BOUNDS better than 13 years ago when lower priced units basically never give their rated power. 250w units disguised as 500w units was a pretty common occurrence, you also had units that may deliver rated power but was out of ATX spec in efficiency, ripple or regulation, which is a very low bar.

The fact I can go on amazon get a "segotop" PSU that will deliver its power, be actually updated to newer ATX standards and be safety certified by UL/TUV is something else.

>>102427044
I was hoping the 6650xt would price drop but I guess it ain't happening so I guess I'll go with the 6600.
How's the arc a750 driver situation? Did they improve?

>>102426660
the beggining of this month marked 1 year of waitfagging
not gonna make...
I'll probably get the 7800X3D and 4080 Super on Black Friday

>>102427082
>How's the arc a750 driver situation? Did they improve?
Yeah they're far better than at launch but still not up to snuff for general/casual gaming. IMO it's still a case of buying it for novelty/tuning purposes.
As for the 66*0XT, I see it at $230 right now which is decent. Well worth saving up another $50 if you can.

>>102426715
>>102426674
Isn’t this a baseless rumor site?

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>>102427056
> Yes, but this is LEAPS AND BOUNDS better than 13 years ago when lower priced units basically never give their rated power. 250w units disguised as 500w units was a pretty common occurrence
Bitches don't know about muh Diabalotek PSUs

>>102427254
>Isn’t this a baseless rumor site?
No in fact it's a based rumor site.

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>>102427355

i got an rx6700 and i have a 23.5.1 version on because the 24.x.x versions were all fucking up bad
did they fix those? whats the go to amd driver these days?

>>102426431
I know that 5700x3d is better in gaming, but I haven't really found any benchmarks comparing it to 5900x in other tasks.

>>102426925
I think most people will not be happy with a 8600g APU, it's basically half the FPS of a 3050 6gb, but you pay for what you get (the cpu costs the same as a 3050), but if you buy a 6650 XT or 4060, expect 4x more fps (2x more than a 3050 6gb).
The main benefit of the 3050 is if you buy a used prebuilt that only has PCB power, since the 3050 6gb does not require power cables (if you look for a prebuilt, any 4 core CPU, make sure it has a nvme slot, and make sure you have 2 ram sticks, you might be able to find it for $50, but otherwise you could consider building the PC using a aliexpress xeon CPU, not good for games that are limited by 1 cpu core like minecraft or factorio or x86box, but a xeon v4 should be able to reach like 80fps in cyberpunk, you barely hit 80fps with a 3050 6gb at the lowest 1080p settings, but it's not that cheap when you price the cost of the NVME, case, cooler, you want 4 ram sticks because xeons have 4 channels, not 2, and it's probably going to have trouble with windows 11 because of old hardware, but it should work and it's 1/4th the cost of buying a intel 12100f or ryzen 7600, excluding nvme/case/psu/gpu).

Found a random local guy selling various brand new (sealed) GPUs for MSRP (pretty much unheard of in my country, even on deep discounts). He appears to have been in business for at least a couple of years so it can't be an outright scam, he even offers the option of unpacking the card you buy and testing it on one of his rigs. I've had bad experiences in the past (basically made use of some kind of warranty policy with every card I've had in the last 20 years) so I don't think I'll buy from him, but what the fuck could be the catch?

>>102427894
I never had a bad driver since early 390 days, you got a skill issue.

>>102428283
he is "importing" them in in his car, price gets really down when you don't have to pay 50% tax on things. the only catch of such a purchase is lack of warranty.

>>102428292
pretty much everyone is shitting on the 24.x drivers and most people use 23.11.1 on cards after rx 500
nobody cares your excel works fine, we use the cards here

>>102428340
>>102427894
bro what the hell are you talking about
learn what wddm is
you have a skill issue
https://www.amd.com/en/resources/support-articles/release-notes/RN-RAD-WIN-24-20-11-01.html

>>102425780
is "moore's law is dead" reliable with his infos?
t. newfaggot

>>102428330
Ok, maybe I should clarify, I'm talking straight up US MSRP (lowest one to my knowledge), and I'm in Europe. Even if this was some elaborate tax fraud, his margin would be nothing.

so what's the current state of intel CPUs?
do "new" 14th gens still have stability issues or molding dies or whatever the current drama is?

>>102428467
US MSRP isn't the actual price of the card either
at higher volume they get them like 25-30% cheaper. he got some connections from channel vendors. he makes enough money for 1-2 people even if margin is under 20%.

>>102428433
No.

>>102428340
I have 7900, it's been a smooth ride, so far
worst bug I experienced is radeon settings opened up when system wakes up from display off state, they fixed it

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Hey, I'm looking to upgrade my GPU. Here is my build...

PSU 850w
CPU 5700X
Mobo MSI B550 Tomahawk
RAM 48GB DDR4

Currently using an Intel Arc 770 that I bought for peanuts when the drivers were shit, and to be honest it's done really well for me since the drivers were improved. Now I'd like to take things up a notch.

Requirements...
>To run 2 monitors - 1920 x1080 and 3440 x 1440
>Card able to cool with an inverted mobo orientation, exhaust facing upwards (blower cards work best but not essential)
>Max GPU length 12.2" / 31cm


What do you recommend that will give me a noticeable performance boost without breaking the bank?

Thanks

>>102428433
/g/ makes better predictions than him, pretty sure he takes the most stupid ideas from here for maximum views

>>102428489
>Bending
They still bend. Use a contact frame if it bothers you.

>Degradation
There's a microcode patch out. It's not clear if it works and it won't be for a few months.

>>102428532
>What do you recommend that will give me a noticeable performance boost without breaking the bank?
I would recommend waiting 2 months, do not buy GPUs when it's the end of a generation.

>>102428532
Given your CPU and current card I'm thinking a 4070S/7900GRE. Nothing below that will give you a substantial performance boost and your CPU might run into difficulties keeping up with something better.

Why the fuck are all 7800x3D sold out?

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>7800x3d went up by 80e in the past 2 months

hello I currently have this pc: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZCDXgB

I wanted to upgrade the cpu to a 5700x3d and then go for a 7700xt, i live in a shithole country so going for am5 is still expensive

>>102428559
Thanks, I'm a bit out of touch with the current market, so I appreciate the tip, I may indeed wait a while
>>102428605
Cheers, I'll have a look at these, do you think prices of these GPUs are likely top come down in a couple of months?

>>102428433
I trust /g/ more unironically

>>102428763
Good. Buy a 4070 super.

>>102428657
Thank Intel for making CPUs that destroy themselves coupled with Zen 5 X3D taking forever to release.

>>102428684
sounds like a sensible upgrade to me
motherboard isn't amazing but the 5700x3d isn't too power hungry so it should be fine
if you're using the 5600g's stock cooler you'll want to get something better though

Why do CPU game performance reviewers always use seasonal goyslop games that barely depend on CPU and will be gone and forgotten in half a year instead of evergreens that are actually CPU-limited? Paradox games, autism sims, factorio, satisfactory, rimworld etc. It's not like they're irrelevant, most of them have been in top 50 steam games for years.

>>102428790
fuck if only my 8-year-old computer decided to kill itself only three months faster. I could have gotten it for $300. Being a waitfag fucked me over since I was trying to wait 9800X3D

>>102428340
7900XT here and I've never had a driver problem

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>>102428814
That would require them to actually play games or at least put the work in to get someone else's save running

>>102428532
If you can survive on your current card for six months, you can see what the RTX 5070 brings. Otherwise, 4070 Super

>>102428489
>so what's the current state of intel CPUs?
No one really knows
Not worth buying one to find out two years later in my opinion

>>102428433
No

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>>102428292
>>102428384
>>102428524
>>102428844
>I never had a bad driver since early 390 days
Radeontards are unobservant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfI9rmTnxe8&t=331s
Or they've just accepted all of Radeon's flaws as normal

>>102426925
Used 2060 Super or an RX 6600

>>102426372
Consider the AOC Q27G3XMN instead as a monitor

Why is PBO causing my system to crash on idle with my 7800X3D? How do I fix it besides keeping it turned off?

>>102428532
Wait for RDNA4 in the next 3 or 4 months. If things go well it should be a hefty boost over the current 7800XT for around the same price.

>Arrow Lake 10000 mt/s cudimm memory support
holy...

>>102429059
Source?

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bros idk the ips colors are REALLY nice but black..
i think my TN had way better black than my new ips. I'm trying to cope with experimenting with gamma/brightness/contrast but it doesn't help

how the fuck the ips screen on my macbook looks almost like an OLED but a fucking LG monitor looks that bad compared to it??

https://pt.pcpartpicker.com/list/dyyRL9

What gpu do I get not to bottleneck myself this hard? I'm doing ok for esports titles at 200+ fps but I want to play cyberpunk and some other eyecandy titles from the last few years.

I'm also considering getting a 1440p240hz monitor after i upgrade gpu

budget is around 800€ and open to both nvidia or amd

>>102429077
Sir this is /g/ not /v/.

>>102429076
https://wccftech.com/intel-reportedly-pushing-up-to-10000-mt-s-ddr5-memory-support-for-arrow-lake-core-ultra-200-cpus/
original source on weibo

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>>102425925
At the same price the 5700X3D is the better option undoubtedly

>>102429092
>cyberpunk
A 5080 will be the best option if you want to use path tracing. If you're just playing rasterized or with light RT, a 4070 Super will be fine. DLSS is better than native in games like Cyberpunk 2077, so Radeon is not an option

>>102428559
What are the chances the 5000 series will still be compatible with B450 boards? Also will Nvidia launch the new series with 60 and 70?

>>102428814
DESU I think people who play those games already know they need the most single thread possible. Would be nice to have benchmarks of something like Intel vs AMD X3D however because the performance implications could vary between games.

Truth be told, I honestly think CPU benches are more about increasing buy in to higher end CPUs than being informative. If you have to look at such benchmarks, you're more likely to gather the impression a higher end CPU means more FPS without understanding the GPU is the first bottleneck you will encounter if not buying a 4090.

>>102429200
what about current gen? i cba to wait for a 5080 that's going to launch at 1400€ anyway

>>102425780
I'm mentally lazy, spoonfeed me what monitor to buy, I want minimal flashing, maybe like up to 27". could/should be equally for art programs or gaming, does the distinction even fucking matter anymore? I just want a good deal on something that's large, has good color display, short refresh time, mostly looking for balanced because I'm cheap and directionless on what exactly what I intend to do with it

>>102429105
Oh it's CUDIMM
Yeah this seems plausible then. Maybe not 10000MHz universally but this is a good sign for 8000+MHz

>>102428745
>do you think prices of these GPUs are likely top come down in a couple of months?
I doubt it. Maybe 20 bucks or something but they're $500+ cards so that's hardly substantial.

By the way, the next gen launch is going to be Q1 2025 and more like Q2 for 70-class cards. It's worth waiting if you were going to buy a 4080/4090 but not for midrange. That's assuming you actually want to upgrade - if you're happy with the A770 then by all means keep it.

>>102429312
What about for CAMM2?

Will all the mini pcs with the same gpu (7840HS in this case) have the same or really similar performances for browsing / work / watching 4k stuff and for some gaming / emulation with its igpu?

>>102429224
>What are the chances the 5000 series will still be compatible with B450 boards?
100%

>>102429224
They'll be compatible, but you'll probably want to buy a GPU with the full x16 lane PCIe connection, which will probably exclude the XX60 class if the RTX 40 series was anything to go by

>>102429259
4080 or 4090 for path tracing
Also I would strongly recommend biting the bullet on a 4K 240Hz OLED

>>102429224
60 and 70 cards will always be later so assuming 5090/5080 is in January you're going to be easily waiting more than half a year by the time the mid tier comes out.

>>102429605
>>102429536
>>102429525
Thanks for the info. If the mid tier series are going to be that late then I'll just go for a 4070 Ti Super then.

>>102429716
Don't listen to the retards who are saying more than six months for the RTX 5070

>>102425780
Recommend me a ~20eur low power gpu to use instead of a main one for VFIO (I guess it should be something supported by radv so that I can have a useful desktop at least)

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Do I:
Buy a 7900 XTX now?
Wait until Cyber Monday?
Wait until 8000 series cards release (though I think at best they may have one that maches 7900 XT, non XTX performance?)

What do /g/?

>>102430122
>buying a 7900 xtx

>>102430122
wait until cyber monday sales at least

>>102430162
>>102430162
Yep, been very satisfied with my 6700XT. Just looking for an upgrade.
I've had some wonky experiences with Nvidia on Linux and don't see a reason to try that road again.

So, just asking for opinions on when I can get the best price on a (new) 7900XTX. I'd rather avoid buying used.
>>102430360
Sounds good, I'll probably wait for that.

With the patch released, has anyone played DD2 with the 7600X? If so, how's performance? I'm thinking about going cheaper on the CPU and getting it instead of the 7800X3D, but my goal is to play MH Wilds without an issue and I'm worried it isn't enough for Capcom's shitty code.

>>102430376
There's no CPU good enough for DD2
or conversely DD2 is too trash for any CPU

>>102429300
You might like 27", but personally if your original monitor was 60 fps, buying a 24" 1080p monitor with more than 144hz will be a significant improvement, and it's cheap as dirt.
However 24" is a pretty small monitor.
If you have $1k to throw, and you spend a lot of time in the dark, assuming you have a $2000 PC, buy a OLED monitor.
It's overpriced as shit, and people who hate OLED will tell you that burn-in will force you to replace the OLED immediately after the warranty expires, but personally QD-OLED seems to be resisting burn in pretty decently (it's only been a year, but it's basically an LCD panel but with an OLED backlight, I think?, traditional OLED/AMOLED would have a separate LED per red, blue, and green), also because QD-OLED uses an lcd panel, it also looks good with fonts on windows.
IPS however looks 80% the same as OLED in a bright room, you need the displays side by side to notice. IPS uses one big backlight so in the dark it's going to glow, but it's not that noticeable if there are enough bright objects, the whole screen needs to be pitch black for your eyes to start seeing the glow, and it also helps if you lower the brightness on your IPS. So basically if you are really into Horror or space or stealth media, and you always watch in a pitch black room, oled will make a big difference.
mini-led is an option since it's like QD-OLED except the backlight uses a low resolution. The cheapest $300~ mini-led's are like 300-500 zones, while the macbook pro which had a lot of criticism about the halo effect had 10k zones (it still looked amazing however).
$300 mini led for reference (300 zones): AOC Q27G3XMN 27"
$100 1080p G2412F (lacks displayport, you need displayport for nvidia because this isn't a gsync monitor, it's gsync compatible, but only compatible with displayport, HDMI 2.1
supports gync, but 1080p monitors don't need more than hdmi 1.4)
$120 AOC 24G4, it includes displayport, I own this monitor, it has a dead green pixel
dunno oled

>>102430452
>lacks displayport
*I mean it lacks the cable. You gotta spend $5 on it.

>>102430452
>G2412F
I don't know why but I thought it had an adjustable stand, but if you spend $20 on a vesa mount (it could even be on the used market), it's going to be 10x better than any stand you get.

>>102426017
> they've changed vcache for Zen5
7800 is zen5

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Whats the word on 8600G/8700G successors?
I feel like they came up just recently,
but suddenly i hear lots of talk about strix point.
Is it notebooks and small devices only?

What's the deal with userbenchmark and AMD? No matter what product I'm looking for, they always have a lengthy review about how much it sucks and how awful AMD's marketing is. Is it just a schizo website?

>>102430732
????
>>102426017
Unless TSMC can put the CCD on top of the cache instead of the other way around, I don't see how they can make a difference. Not like non-3D Zen 5 benefits from more thermal headroom either.

>>102430912
CPUpro was cucked by AMD

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Oh fuck they duplicated

>>102430912
They went full deranged schizo a couple years ago, rejiggered all the benchmark scores to blatantly favour intel and started writing infowars tier screeds about AMD.
My hypothesis is the author got cucked by an AMD employee or had all their money in Intel stock.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4VFmYYXXzU
I guess Intel owes AMD one. Zen 5 was so bad that attempts to fix it by Microsoft actually helped Raptor Lake too.

>>102430980
you could be correct around 2016-2020, but intel and AMD are basically the same thing at the moment.
Undeniably however 13th and 14th gen CPU's are a flop, but 12th gen has always been the best option in bang per buck (but I would suggest ryzen for the high end CPU's because I don't trust e-cores, but high end CPU's are not good in terms of cost per frame, you need to buy a 4070 ti or better for it to really matter).
also who reads reviews? just look at the numbers.

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>>102431069
Also the 14700K is still 3% faster on average than the 9700X in games, and applications.

>>102430912
>AMDrone mad at facts
We see it here when comparisons between AMD and nvidia are mad and the drones crawl out of the woodwork to claim the evidence is biased, done by shills etc. Userbenchmark just calls it out openly and plainly rather than pussyfooting about so as to not be denied those sweet AMD fanboy clicks that places like hardware unboxed live off.

>>102430452
not him, but thanks anon

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I'm currently wielding a 2080 for 6 years. About to upgrade to a 3080. I see they're priced around $500 - $700 bucks. Good purchase?

Windows 10 vs 11 comparison?

>>102431428
3060 12g

>>102431428
7800xt

>>102431428
For 10 gb vram? No. I'd go amd at this point unless you REALLY need Nvidia features.
I would settle for $500 for the 12 gb variant, but that was only running for that much like 2 years ago and never seen that low again.

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>>102431464
?

>>102431468
I keep hearing about this card. What does it have compared to the 2080? Is it considered an upgrade for me?

>>102431487
7800xt is over 2x as fast as your card and supports every modern api feature

>>102431428
no

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>>102431502
My local micro center has them. Which would you pick?

>>102429047
>Consider the AOC Q27G3XMN instead as a monitor
I did
But people here and on /v/ keep telling me not to because "VA is garbage, HDR is a meme and AOC sucks cock"

thx for the rec anyway
but it still doesn't answer my question
What's a good monitor arm, for 27 inch screens, that doesn't cost above 100 euros?

Is 40c a safe operating temperature for a hard drive?

>>102431531
get the hellhound

>>102431795
I was thinking the gigabyte. I never heard of the PowerColor brand.

>>102431531
sapphire one with 3 fans

>>102431813
Powercolor are an AMD only AIB and a good one at that.

The 7600 is 13$ cheaper than 7600x here (both tray versions)
Is it worth getting the 7600x?

>>102431813
The Nitro and Hellhound are the best cards there by model design. Actually go look up some techpowerup specs.

>>102431813
I also have the hellhound 7800xt, works fine and no issues, cooling is fine

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>>102431940
Looks like the nitro is winning out

>>102432004
I mean read the actual board design specs. Don't just look at the boost clock.

>>102432004
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNtX4rByAKg

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>>102425780
Help please, I'm assembling my PC, but just noticed the PSU hangs a bit on the bottom like the left on pic related. Should I put something below it near the back so it's straight like on the right?

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>>102432012
I did. The Nitro seems pretty cool to me.

Ryzen DDR5: what speeds can it support up to if you choose to not sync memory and fabric?

>>102432073
It's a good card. If you like it then go get it. Hellhound is basically equivalent but $35 cheaper.

>>102431813
TUL/Powercolor are the oldest GPU makers along with Sapphire.

>>102431813
You know how everyone dicksucked EVGA for Nvidia? Well AMD has TWO EVGAs, Sapphire/Powercolor.

>>102432041
If you tightened the screws correctly it shouldn't hang but sure - reducing mechanical stress on the mounting screws isn't a bad idea.

Should I hold my breath for improvements down stack of the RTX 50 series if the only model that is getting any meaningful increase in cores is the 5090? improvements through architecture and clock speed only.

>>102432255
My crystal ball is unavailable.

>>102432211
lol fair enough. I do remember sapphire from one of my old gpu cards ten years ago so Im familiar at least with them.

>>102430970
duo quadro

>>102432098
6000 at max, IIRC. 6200 if you're really lucky.

I am an actual retard when it comes to this stuff so I need help anons.
I want to get a 4070super after using a 950 for years, but which one am I actually supposed to buy, I don't want to fuck myself by picking a shit card

Just picked a used 6800XT for 300 bucks.

Does the placement of a kit of ram matter that much? I have 2 sticks only but do one have to be before the other?

>>102432398
All of them are fine, even Palit and Asus Dual. 4070s is one of those cards with low enough TDP that any average cooler can handle.
But why Nwordia again though?

>>102432418
Nah. As long as they're from the same kit (or even have same characteristics) any order will be fine.

>>102432398
7900gre is cheaper here than 4070super and i see no reason to pick the latter over the former.

>>102430376
cpu performance was primarly a problem in the city of Vernworth (it had to due with the calculations to all NPCs), which caused the game to stutter
said stutter was already fixed in the June update
from what I played, this new update increased my framerate in the city by at least 10fps
really this is the state the game should've released

Would you guys still recommend the B650LiveMixer if I'm upgrading from Intel to AMD? Or is there a better motherboard?

>>102432418
Placement only matters as long as they are in dual channel mode. Read the mobo manual so you know which slot is A1 and B1.

>>102432568
what mobo you should get depends on the features you want and the price

>>102432098
>what speeds can it support up to if you choose to not sync memory and fabric?
No such thing on AM5. 6200-6400 in Gear 1, 7800-8000 in Gear 2.
>>102432418
The relative order doesn't matter but 4 DIMM boards have "strong" and "weak" slots, you want the 2 sticks in the strong slots.
>>102432668
The preferred slots are usually A2/B2 but yeah, check the manual.

>>102432217
True, once tightened it was straight, but I put a couple of rubber thingies that came with the case (supposed to be for the HDD if I put one) underneath it. Thanks boss.

Does anyone know if Super Flower COMBAT FG 850W ATX 3.1 is good? Can't find info about it

>>102432945
It would be a rare day super flower make a bad high wattage unit. Have you checked if cybenetics have a report on it?

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>>102431428
>The rtx 2000 series is 6 years old

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Is it worth it to water cool my 7900xtx? also feel free to rate my setup

>>102433151
no

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>>102433151
i rate it pe/pe

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>>102433287
thanks

>>102433342
why do you save alt right trump supporter imagery on your pc?

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>>102433151
Does it look like this under load

>>102433351
cause im voting for trump? I dont see what that has to do with my question or my pc but alright
>>102433355
>under load
never under load oddly enough, havent played anything intensive lately

>>102433151
>that ugly purple
>not a rare pepe
You can do better.

Need advice on the option list on Precision 3680 Tower workstation
Anything worthwhile there?
https://www.dell.com/nl-be/shop/desktops-en-werkstations/precision-3680-tower-workstation/spd/precision-t3680-workstation/n012pt3680mtemea_vp?configurationid=802f3de3-5ee0-4454-abcc-9696d0a8a48d

>>102433373
>cause im voting for trump?
so you're a zionist?

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>>102425780
Is this good for this price range (Aussie dollars) or should I get a diff brand or even upgrade it to a 2tb one?

Mind you this is for a 10 year old PC (i5 4590, 16gb, h97i mobo, gtx970) I plan on giving my 8 year old nephew

Rn I have an old 120gb SSD in it. Worth upgrading before I give it?

Also what should I put on it before giving it? Is there a way to have terraria offline for it? Is there a free musical beat maker to leave on it hoping he might be able to figure out lol.

I've left the python crash course book on it

>>102434313
NV2 are bottom tier but kingston is a good brand

What is the best build you could build in 2013?

https://www.dell.com/nl-be/shop/isv-gecertificeerd-en-geoptimaliseerd-workstation/precision-7875-tower-workstation/spd/precision-t7875-workstation/xctopt7875emea_vp?configurationid=c32b1b03-5048-4c42-8c1f-712a6d10977f

Holy shit

>>102434337
What are the cons for going for an nv2?

In what ways would we suffer getting one of those that spending more?

>>102434377
for what? with what criteria?

>>102434313
it's fine for your 8 year old nephew
speed and reliability will be significantly worse than a more expensive option but it doesn't matter, unless you're writing data all day it will keep working for a long time
you should also make sure a board that old actually has an M.2 slot

>>102434405
gaming

>>102425780
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MCppqR

thoughts on this as a small footprint build? the lg monitor has an active cooling solution in it to
i also want to play on an ipad pro with a powered usbc dock for peripherals

>CORSAIR A115 (140mm)
>DeepCool ASSASSIN IV (140mm)
>Noctua NH-D15 G2 (140mm)
>Thermalright Peerless Assassin (140mm)

Which is best here?

>>102428657
>Why the fuck are all 7800x3D sold out?
9000 series ryzen turned out to be a dud so all the waitfags bought a 7800X3D

>>102434572
noctua air coolers
for aios, i prefer arctic

>>102434593
>9000 series ryzen turned out to be a dud so all the waitfags bought a 7800X3D

What's wrong with 9000

What is the best AM2/AM3 Cooler?

>>102434174
Please respond

>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti - 3 GB, GDDR5, 384 bit
>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti - 6 GB, GDDR5, 384 bit
>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti - 11 GB, GDDR5X, 352 bit
>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER - 6 GB, GDDR6, 192 bit
>NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti - 11 GB GDDR6
>NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 - 24 GB, GDDR6X, 384 bit
>NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti - 24 GB, GDDR6X, 384 bit
>NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 - 24 GB, GDDR6X, 384 bit

If you aren't using these, you may as well be using integrated

>>102431923
nope

>>102434400
the NV2 is complete garbage with awful speeds hot as shit and high failure rates do not buy that ssd

>>102434658
It wasn't better than the 7800X3D
40% IPC gain turned to 16% turned to 0-2%

>>102434724
Wouldn't they be waiting for 9800X3D or 9950X3D?

>X
Productivity
>X3D
3D Applications

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Gentlemen, did I mess up somehow? I have a Livemixer + Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, and I can put one of the fans right, but the other just hits the RAM if I try to align with with the rest. The RAM is set properly so that's not the issue. I followed this video:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQiSEAnPY8
So I assume the fans are supposed to go to "the right" on both cases.

>>102434755
well the video also shows there'll be zero clearance for any ram sticks lol

>>102434787
What do I do, boss? Do I just rise that fan higher? How much higher? e.g. 1 cm above the RAM?

>>102434755
You fucked up. Time to sell it since you bought the wrong parts.

Just kidding, just raise the fan so it's not touching the RAM. But get it as close to it as you can. Like 3-5mm.

>>102434824
raise the fan or leave it off

>>102434835
>>102434838
>get it as close to it as you can. Like 3-5mm
Thanks Boss, much obliged.

>>102434838
DO NOT LEAVE IT OFF
you're basically losing half of the cooler if you leave a fan off. Just raise it up. People do this all the time when building in a smaller motherboard.

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Waitfagging is killing me

>>102434901
Then don't wait.
Seize the moment. Embrace it.

>>102434572
Peerless assassin or phantom spirit, whichever is cheaper. Performance differences are negligible and comparable to Noctua which is like 3x more $$$.

>>102434572
the one banned in america

>GeForce 4

NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4400 - 128 MB, DDR, 128 bit
NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4600 - 128 MB, DDR, 128 bit
NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4800 SE - 128 MB, DDR, 128 bit
NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4800 - 128 MB, DDR, 128 bit
NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4800 - 128 MB, DDR, 128 bit

>GeForce 7 series

GeForce 7600 GT - 256 MB, GDDR3, 128 bit
GeForce 7800 GT - 256 MB, GDDR3, 256 bit
GeForce 7800 GTX - 256 MB, GDDR3, 256 bit
GeForce 7900 GTX - 512 MB, GDDR3, 256 bit
GeForce 7950 GT - 512 MB, GDDR3, 256 bit

>GeForce 8 series

GeForce 8600 GT - 512 MB, GDDR3, 128 bit
GeForce 8800 GT - 512 MB, GDDR3, 256 bit
GeForce 8800 GTX - 768 MB, GDDR3, 384 bit
GeForce 8800 Ultra - 768 MB, GDDR3, 384 bit

>GeForce 9 series

NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GT - 512 MB, GDDR3, 256 bit
NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT - 512 MB, GDDR3, 256 bit
NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX - 512 MB, GDDR3, 256 bit

>GTX 200 Series

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 275
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295 - 896 MB, GDDR3, 448 bit

>GTX 400 SERIES

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 - 1024 MB, GDDR5, 256 bit
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 465 - 1024 MB, GDDR5, 256 bit
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 470 - 1280 MB, GDDR5, 320 bit
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 - 1536 MB, GDDR5, 384 bit
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 490 - 1536 MB, GDDR5, 384 bit

>GTX 500 SERIES

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 - 1024 MB, GDDR5, 256 bit
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti - 1024 MB, GDDR5, 256 bit
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 - 1280 MB, GDDR5, 320 bit
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 - 1536 MB, GDDR5, 384 bit
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 590 - 1536 MB, GDDR5, 384 bit

Soul

>>102434996
Why did you skip GeForce 4 Ti 4200

>>102434996
>>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 - 1536 MB, GDDR5, 384 bit
Ah fermi wood screws days
nostalgic

>>102434901
current specs?

>>102434996
>>102435002
What is the standard ram and vram amount nowadays?

>>102434670
idk
that socket is old
i would upgrade

>>102435007
16GB ram, 6GB vram for normie tier

>>102435007
>>102435014
I meant 8GB vram, what 3060 or 4060 offers

>>102435007
32GB 6000 MHz
12GB GDDR6

I'm thinking of upgrading my mobo since it's a dogshit A320 from 2017, the biggest change would be going from SATA to NVME SDD.
What sort of performance improvement should I expect from a B550?

>>102435133
>the biggest change would be going from SATA to NVME SDD.
Gaming? That is basically nothing.
NVMe VS SATA SSD is like, 5% difference in read.
Editing large files for movie production or something? Then it's huge. NVMe VS SATA SSD is like, 50% faster in writes.

>>102425835
My guy
That a100 could probably run crysis and a 22b parameter model

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wtf, I love UserBenchmark now

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hello /pcbg/
im looking at getting two new monitors so i can dual wield them. it's been a while since ive been here is the monitor list in the OP still good?
money is no object since i have a job
thanks again for your suggestions

>>102435176
what resolution?
The best of the best are the current the LG Oleds for 1440p and 4k respectively. The newer 480hz ones also supposedly have better burn in protection, but don't quote me on it.
Although getting an oled as a side monitor is kind of a waste, so just get some regular gaming panel or something with the same display size.

Why doesn't the build a pc wiki work?

>>102434901
me too but I can't help but think that every option is bad investment right now

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>>102434216
I dont give a fuck about any jews, both sides can kill eachother for all I care

>>102435209
oh right i should add more context
i currently have a 3440x1440p ultrawide and a shitty old 4k monitor. i prefer to game on 1440p because it's good enough. i like the 4k monitor for the real estate on it as i work in visual studio.
i dislike this combination because they're asymmetrical. so im looking for something more seamless.
current machine is a 4070ti + 13600k at the moment. may upgrade later on.

Post your unpopular PC Building opinions

>>102435269
noctua is over-rated and over-priced.

>>102435269
Intel makes better consumer cpus

>>102435284
>noctua is over-rated and over-priced.

What's are the downsides with Noctua

I do not manage cables.

>>102435235
If you wathen I guess go for the 32GS95UE-B (4k oled) as your main monitor and some other 32 inch 4k panel as your side piece. Or get the 27GS95QE-B (1440p oled) if you care more about gaming and don't want to upgrade your gpu yet, also with a non oled panel for a side monitor because of burn in. Or just get both monitors as oled to shit on poorfags.
Honestly, unless you're doing video editing or 3d work or something, 4k will be sort of a waste, but if money is of no concern to you then just get the 4k and upgrade to a better gpu as soon as nvidia releases the new ones.

>>102435269
This shit is not just like building Lego

>>102435285
That's not even an unpopular opinion, it was literally a fact for over a decade, but even if that were still true it makes no difference if the fucking thing doesn't work. Maybe with Arrow Lake we'll see a turnaround.

>>102435295
Price to performance mostly.
Yeah, they're good but you could get a cooler that's like, 5% worse and costs half as much as a Noctua cooler.

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>>102435269
small form factor pcs are comfy as shit and if you're not retarded won't impact cooling performance.
There is autistic satisfaction in looking to your right and seeing a dense, tetrismaxxed black box standing on your desk where all of the components fit perfectly together without any empty space.
I imagine this is how trannies feel when they look at rgb towers.

>>102435327
Mostly is but it's just to counter people who think they're special for building one as if they soldered the thing from scratch. The hardest part is the CPU installation due to the anxiety and just how much force you need to lock it. I thought I was going to snap my motherboard during my first build.
Everything else after that is so trivial that you'd have to actively want to fuck up to break something. Unless you forget the standoffs that is...

>>102435400
>as if they soldered the thing from scratch
even then it wouldn't really be as difficult as people might lead you to believe.
If taiwanese child laborers can do it, then so can you.

Why does the 9000 get so much hate? Is it that much worse than 7000?

>>102434996
I remember when having 2GB VRAM meant you were a serious gamer. VRAM usage really skyrocketed these past few years, huh?

>>102435440
no its not worse, its hated because its expensive compared to Zen4 and the gaming uplift was minimal, the 9950X is currently the best multithreaded consumer cpu

>>102435454
12gb was high end 3 years ago

>>102434996
>GeForce 5

GeForce FX 5700 Ultra - 128 MB, GDDR2, 128 bit
GeForce FX 5800 - 128 MB, GDDR2, 128 bit
GeForce FX 5900 Ultra - 256 MB, DDR, 256 bit
GeForce FX 5950 Ultra - 256 MB, DDR, 256 bit

GeForce PCX 5750 - 128 MB, DDR, 128 bit
GeForce PCX 5900 - 128 MB, DDR, 256 bit
GeForce PCX 5950 - 256 MB, GDDR3, 256 bit

What's the difference between FX and PCX?

>>102435454
>>102435474
99% of games are built for the PS4 or PS5.

>PS4
PS4 has 8 GB of VRAM
>PS5
PS5 has 16 GB of VRAM

>>102435476
I believe the PCX cards were PCI-e rather than AGP.

>>102435489
That's total system RAM and some of it is reserved for the OS.

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>CPU cooler was plugged into sys fan instead of cpu fan for a whole week

>>102435489
Consoles use shared memory so effectively it's probably around 12GB VRAM. Either way, for a PC you should have 12GB VRAM at minimum. 32GB RAM and 16GB VRAM is the ideal setup today. 24GB is way too much and for workstation tasks or 4K I guess which is a gay meme.
>>102435535
):

>>102435533
>>102435563
What would be PC equivalent specs for PS4, PS5 and PS5 Pro?

Why is the AMD Athlon considered god-tier for the time? Did they really beat Intel?

>>102435212
I got you, faggot-kun:
https://web.archive.org/web/20240822223724/https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

>>102435583
I don't know, consoles have been so deeply disappointing for well over a decade now that I've stopped looking into that crap entirely.

>>102435633
>consoles have been so deeply disappointing
>consoles are just budget AMD hardware

Do you hate AMD that much?

>>102435563
>32GB RAM
is it actually?
I don't have a million tabs or discord open while I play, so 16Gb are still fine, right? I never see it go above 70% usage when gaming

>>102435637
No, I own 4 Ryzen CPUs. 5 if you count the Steam Deck.

>>102435269
People don't appropriately suggest how important the right tools are. "Any PH1+2 screwdriver" is not enough. A lot of times you'll need a long one with extension so you can reach certain places.
>>102435327
This too. I had a lot of fun building my PC a few months ago, but it took me 6 hours due to reading stuff, second-guessing myself, coming here to ask for advice about unforeseen things, etc.

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>look for a 3080ti
>4070 super has better performance with ~100W less power draw for around the same price
>4070 ti super has 16Gb Vram though which is basically a requirement now
>4080 super isn't that much more expensive and if I'm gonna spend money on a gpu, I might as well buy one that I don't have to replace anytime soon
>4090 completely dwarfs the 4080 in performance and has a proportionately better price given it's performance and vram
I guess I'm taking out a mortgage boys. At least the pixels on my screen will look really good haha.

>>102435725
Wait for 5000 m8

>>102431428
Wait how is it 6 years already? I remember buying my 2060 in 2020 during lockdown

>>102435741
20 series came out in 2018

>>102435725
If you must get NVIDIA, either get the 4070 super or wait.

>>102435840
2060 was 2019

I'm debating whether to just move over to AM5 now and get a fully new PC or to just swap my GPU from a 4070 to a 4080S. Will probably do this (if i decide to) after the 5000's are revealed.

This is my current build and for newer games at 3440x1440p @ 120fps the 4070 seems to be kinda struggling now, -> https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/VHZKyg

If I was going to buy a completely new one i was looking at https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/QVQ9sh and just carrying over all my storage, CPU Cooler, and maybe the case depending on the 4080S' size.

>>102435846
And the original poster was talking about the 2080
Not your 2060. (You) don't matter in this discussion about when the 20 series came out

>>102435856
I wouldn't upgrade anything, wait until the new year.

>>102435871
I'm nta, I was just adding the 2060 release date for context.

>>102435843
*Ti super

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>>102435856
>>102435878
>UK

Lmao

>>102435878
>I wouldn't upgrade anything, wait until the new year.
Yeah I don't intend to anytime soon really, it's just one or two games that run a lot worse than expected.

>>102435934
(You)

>>102435934
Children of Men nailed it

>Radeon HD 5000 series

AMD Radeon HD 5870 - 1024 MB, GDDR5, 256 bit
AMD Radeon HD 5950 - 1024 MB, GDDR5, 256 bit
AMD Radeon HD 5970 - 1024 MB, GDDR5, 256 bit

>Radeon HD 6000 series

AMD Radeon HD 6950 - 2 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit
AMD Radeon HD 6970 - 2 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit
AMD Radeon HD 6990 - 2 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit

>Radeon HD 7000 series

AMD Radeon HD 7850 - 2 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit
AMD Radeon HD 7950 - 3 GB, GDDR5, 384 bit
AMD Radeon HD 7970 - 3 GB, GDDR5, 384 bit
AMD Radeon HD 7990 - 3 GB, GDDR5, 384 bit

>Radeon 200 series

AMD Radeon R9 280 - 3 GB, GDDR5, 384 bit
AMD Radeon R9 280X - 3 GB, GDDR5, 384 bit
AMD Radeon R9 285 - 2 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit
AMD Radeon R9 290X - 4 GB, GDDR5, 512 bit

>Radeon 300 series

AMD Radeon R9 370 - 2 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit
AMD Radeon R9 380 - 2 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit
AMD Radeon R9 390 - 8 GB, GDDR5, 512 bit
AMD Radeon R9 390X - 8 GB, GDDR5, 512 bit

>Radeon 400 series

AMD Radeon RX 460 - 2 GB, GDDR5, 128 bit
AMD Radeon RX 470 - 4 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit
AMD Radeon RX 480 - 8 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit

>Radeon 500 series

AMD Radeon RX 560 - 4 GB, GDDR5, 128 bit
AMD Radeon RX 570 - 4 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit
AMD Radeon RX 580 - 8 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit
AMD Radeon RX 590 - 8 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit

>Radeon RX 5000 series

AMD Radeon RX 5600 XT - 6 GB, GDDR6, 192 bit
AMD Radeon RX 5700 - 8 GB, GDDR6, 256 bit
AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT - 8 GB, GDDR6, 256 bit
AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT 50th Anniversary Edition - 8 GB, GDDR6, 256 bit

AMD.. forgotten

>>102435982
I'm probably going to buy low end RDNA5 in 2026

>>102435899
Not worth the price hike, plus 4070S will be the cheapo option in the future so it will retain value while everything else skyrockets.

>>102435172
Since we all know the 7800X3D is the worst gaming CPU ever made. What do the objective and unbiased reviewers at UserBenchmark™ recommend as the BEST gaming CPU?

Livemixer build is still running great, gonna build a xeon shitbox for fun now to run terrible sketchy shit on and vr

>>102436063
Intel Core i9-14900KS and 5090 or nothing lol

>>102435269
Cord management is busywork that doesn't matter since I only look inside the case once per year max to clean it. Jam all that shit in, who gives a fuck.

4k@60 >>>>>> 1440@120

>>102436093
yes, the degradation is of course propaganda paid by AMD to Wendell and GamersNexus to falsify data.

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>John Carmack coded Quake on a 28-inch 16:9 1080p monitor in 1995
>Dude releases source code of his video game.
>Singlehandedly responsible for creating some of the most influential video games of all time
>Singlehandedly responsible for revolutionizing the FPS genre arguably the most popular video game genre of all time
>Singlehandedly responsible for saving the PC gaming industry
>Mostly forgotten in modern days

Kneel

>>102436236
Why would I kneel when I respect his work but this is a pc builder thread?

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>>102425990
>say what you want about how bad the cooling was
The point is to pull it off and put on a water block lmao.

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>>102434572
>Which is best here?
none of them, start here

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>>102435359
Honestly I don't mind the yuropoor fans

>>102436305
You could've bought 2 5-packs of Arctic P12 Max for the price of 3 of those A12x25s

>>102436286
>>102436305
>>102436322
Are Arctic Freezer 36 worth it?

>>102436322
Yes when I buy these fans I'm feeding a family in yuropoor and they don't have to forage for food.

>game is capped at 60fps
>desire to play it vanishes

>>102436395
Most games have engine limits of 30fps, 60fps or 120fps

>>102435440
It was nearly slower than Ryzen 7000 at launch when tested in Windows. After a couple patches now, it's still barely any quicker than it's predecessor

>>102425780
Do any companies still do 21/22 inch monitors? Are there any that aren't completely entry level bare bones?

Think I'd be dumb going from a 29 inch wide screen (which is basically just a wider 24inch) to this next size down?

Used to be on a 27 inch but found them too big

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>>102436305
I was thinking about filling my new case with either a14s or the be quiet silent wings pro 4. It is a be quiet case, so that is being considered. Which flavor of European should I support?

>>102435381
yes
i really like sff pcs
i don’t like that the average pc is huge for no reason