30,000 jobs... gone...
Poland too...ACK!!!
>>102433327I keep thinking about that redditard who bought 700k in intel stock and then 5 minutes later lost a third of it's value.
>>102433327>>102433370>Europeans relying on americans again.Why can't they just wake the fuck up and make their own CPUs?
Where are all those semi-skilled Kenyans going to work?
>>102433394
>>102433327>jews don't keep their promisetale as old as time
>>102433393They imported browns and killed off all the smart people.They can't even make electricity reliably.
Just need Intelaviv shills to get in here and tell me "and that's why it's a good thing, Intel is actually winning!"
>>102433327germoids keep losing lol... first nordstream and now this
>>102433466haha, I wonder who keeps doin this to them!guess they'll have to move their manufacturing to another country where energy costs are lower!haha!
>>102433393Building Intel plants would have been the best way of doing that. That's exactly what China did, everybody makes shit there so China has lot of people who knows how to make shit.Europe doesn't build anything and doesn't have the best engineers or developers because the best of them already emigrated to America where they make more than 80k a year before 70% taxes.
>>102433327>>102433370that doesn't say canceled. are you retarded?
who'd even work in a german plant50k nigerian phd talent immigrants?
>>102433536>give us more subsidies that we agreed to or we're not building!Yes, it's cancelled, you Intelaviv shill.
>>102433528the EU's chief export is regulations. not sure why anyone does business there.
>>102433538250,000 Kenyans.Wonder what they'll do now without that chip plant?
>>102433528In that case why does TSMC buy lithography machines from ASML in Denmark?
>>102433545i don't have a dog in this fight. why do you?
>>102433557>skilled and semi-skilledI wonder what the ratio is
no american dole for yuropoors this time aww stay poor
>>102433327...buy the dip??
>>102433393the best europeans are americans. only white trash is left there on the old continent they're literally white niggers
>>102433558Those are made in San Diego, California, dumbass.
>>102433429>oopsy whoopsy the wind blew a bit too hard!>Welp no power for a week again cleetus!
>>102433558>ASML>Denmark
>Intel won't receive 10 billion Euro subsidies from Germany.This is quite literally another shoah. I am shivering!
>>102433799>the best europeans are americans
>>102433549This. It's embarrassing to be European
>>102434464>a fist statueFucking stupid kink. Why do many movements have that love for fisting? It's so gay and makes them look ridiculous.
>>102433327>>102433370just
>Please, please, please, use Intel rust manufacturing plants.>Jewtel is not dead, we promise. Pretty please.Can the US government guarantee that using Insratel factories won't result in products failing way too early, in the warranty period, from manufacturing defects? No? Oh well.
lol
>>102433393there is no America or Europe, just you know what religion overlords
>>102433327All European industry must go to the US for its survival, and then trickle down to Israel, sorry euros goyim!
>>102433327Based, fuck east "germans"
>>102433799>slavoids>medis>white
>>102437372Reminder that Mediterraneans civilized your ancestors
>>102433370Poland would be too incompetent anyway
>>102433327>>102433370This happened because intel is going bankrupt and the US gov which is giving them large subsidies wants them to be spent in the US.If Germany and Poland want to fabs they are not going to be paid by US subsidies. The Israeli plant was also cancelled.
>>102433558Anon they're Dutch. And the Dutch are one of the last countries in Europe to have actual innovative companies. I guarantee ASML still gets carved up from the inside out like Phillips in the name of (((((divesting))))) sometime in the next 15 years. Especially considering all of their EUV research is done in California.
>>102433588100% sub-unskilled
>>102433327>>102433370https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-06-13/ty-article/intel-reportedly-to-halt-plans-for-25-billion-chip-making-plant-in-israel/00000190-10d4-d529-adb2-37d4f9520000Oy vey
>>102433327TSMC is the only who is building the fab they promised Wolfspeed is stalling as well and most likely will back out. Called it from the very start you cannot trust mutts they let the GF fab outsource to Portugal arguing there would be new ones being build within the decade guess what? Its a fucking lie.Also Poles I hope you see what is happening to Germany right now you cannot negotiate with the pond anglo they will fuck you over.
>>102437868>>102437302Accoring to the intelaviv shills from the other thread, this is all planned by Intel, and they actually have a secretive chip to unseat TSMC's dominance. They are pulling out of Germany/Poland/Israel because there are TSMC spies there that wants to copy their chips.
>>102437834asml just puts shit together. very innovative.
goodSilesians don't deserve developmenthope the flood kills them allt. Pole
>>102437890*Laughs in being able to decide if your country gets to make modern chips*
>>102437925>he thinks ASML decides anythinglol???ASML's CEO's been whining for the past 2 years because 50% of his company's sales come from China and he's not allowed to sell there.
>>102437953And he'll continue to be unable to lol. Xi's WREEEEE over losing the chip wars because he can't get the machines is so fucking hilarious. If Trump wins he'll continue it out of spite, if Harris does she'll do it for the laughs.
>>102437973*cackles
>>102437890Not really. EUV fell 10 years behind in part because Intel, Nikon, ASML fought over licensing rights over the technology. >>102437973Losing is an interesting way of putting it. Semi isn't just lithography. We are quite behind in many things like packaging. Considering China had no domestic DUV then came up with a variation of 193nm ArF, to say they would never catch up would be a fool's bet. To "win" you need more lower level >14nm foundries, packaging capacity, increase the scale on photonics and LED manufacturing
>>102438216sounds like copium to me. maybe if you flow that gas in your equipment you will get better performance.
>>102433370how does an image get this bad in quality? what kind of subhuman took this screenshot?
>>102438251poland is still running windows ME
>>102433327Based. Fuck Germany they ruined Europe with Merkel forever.
>>102438216China has had and continues to have a massive knowledge hemorrhage. They will eventually "crack the code" but we will have moved on by that point. They dropped the friendly panda charade a century too early. They will not get free access to the outside world again in my lifetime.
>>102434591you never have tried real fisting before
>>102437925kek they decide nothing the US decides who they cnan sell to and who they can't. remember, intel made asml by choosing this company over the japs for national security to make euv which is an american tech of which the US owns all licenses.
>>102433429This. Turns out everything Hitler said would happen if they lost, is happening.
>>1024333273.000 jobs actuallyi for one am glad, that's 10 billion dollar in subsidies saved that can be put into local high tech instead of propping up a foreign old giant
>>102438678The chip making business is extremely international, probably the most international there is, trying to claim national glory here is a bizarre exercise and just shows how uninformed and alienated you are from the actual industry. Plus the guy who first postulated this process was a nip.
>>102433327all those arab and african jobs.. done!
Germs are going to luddite purity spiral themselves back into the 16th century
>>102433327Fuck GermanyFuck the EU>>102433538shit would be done just in time for the EU's planned poisoning of the fucking balkans with a fucking lithium mine
>>102437647Maybe there is something good about the market.
>>102433327Kikes smell war coming to Yurop
I bought the dip, wat do?
Intel is a dying and uncompetitive company so this isn't surprising at all. What is amusing is how Germany is circling the drain and will continue to do so since they have fuck all to offer to the modern world. To a large extent neither does America despite their posturing. Intel will probably have to be kept at life support and thus this move is reasonable from their end. Most US tech companies, most notably Apple, will soon start to fall apart too. They cannot compete with the future, and the future is East Asia. From my Euro perspective I'm aware we can't do anything anymore and produce basically nothing, and on top of that there's no point in doing anything in Europe because of the welfare state and high taxes. This is a place of mediocrity and stagnation and that's not going to change. The truly smart Americans and Europeans won't stay/go to America either, but to China. Remember my words.
>>102441954nobody is gonna learn chinese nigga, nobody's going to china
>>102433327Is the cutting edge semiconductor manufacturing going to be a complete TSMC monopoly now? Samsung Foundry has the second most advanced process for logic semiconductor after TSMC, and Samsung hasn't been able to sign up any big name customer to use their latest nodes other than itself (Exynos). It wasn't long ago Qualcomm and Nvidia manufactured their high-end products on Samsung nodes.The gap between TSMC and Samsung is expanding and narrowing, and Samsung also started scaling down next gen investment. It was recently reported that Samsung U.S. couldn't get the yield at their Taylor, TX 2nm next gen fab above 20% and decided to suspend the project and repatriate all the process engineers deployed there back to the mothership to accelerate the yield improvement 2nm fab in Korea instead. Previously, the plan was to open both fabs simultaneously.
>>102442920>expanding and narrowing*and not narrowing
>>102441073>marketAll the cutting edge fabs are subsidized by their countries, korea, japan, taiwan, china all practice industrial policy. USA has mostly done it trough universities and military but now it's also just straight up handing out billions to build fabs.Processors, memory .. and electronics that use them are way cheaper than what they would be under unsubsidized market.
>>102441659I'm holding until 2027.
>>102437486It's q&a and assembly plant. If you can do it in malaysia and vietnam then you can do it in Poland
>>102443367not enough women with small hands
>>102443357Actually I lied. I'm only holding until mid-2026 but I told you 2027.
>>102433393Because Europe regulated all creativity and industrialism out of their people. Any European with a good idea and half a brain already immigrated to America and started an American company. You that remain are literally just cattle in a dead continent. Now stop asking stupid quotes questions. You're late to call to prayer.
>>102437834>all of their EUV research is done in California.Only the light source and it's still not obvious the tin laser source was ever a good idea. It was just made to work eventually, while nothing else got funded.It's pretty likely that Cymer's light source is the main problem why Intel and Samsung can't make EUV work.
>>102443547i, too, can talk out of my ass on a romanian basketweaving forum.
>>102441954but the three gorges dam is collapsing in 2 weeks???
>>102433327>>102433370You forgot abut this one.
>>102442770They already surpassed Japan in "anime", their donghua productions are really excellent. Unfortunately Western woke conglomerates are aware of the danger and wont make it easy for them. There is no dub at all and subtitles are trash but if you can go past that it's really amazing content. More human, universal than what USA is producing and more mature than what Japan is currently producing.
NATO countries are collapsing because america is close to collapsing.Name how many cheap mass produced war drone factories the west or germany has?Russia is pumping out drones like its nothing and has tank/artillery.The west has no industry left and its white people are fed up, especially in america. https://youtu.be/ZGs2CjZv1cs
>>102441954Yet TSMC's fab in fucking Arizona is doing fine.TSMC has some secret to make EUV work, that's all there is really to it.
>>102443869land mines are doing WAY more damage than drones. thanks for keeping up to date though.
>>102433393>relying on americansall this shit comes from china (and its taiwan province), retard
>>102433393Too busy closing down power plants.
>>102433327>>102433370LMAO, third time is a charm.This time intel-aviv will go bankrupt.
>>102444976>haven't bought the dipIntel stock just jumped massively. It landed a huge long term contract with AWS. All other big tech including Apple and Nvidia are lining up because 18A is the most advanced chip process in the world and it'll only get better with 14A and 10A. Taiwan chinks are sanctioned out of the EUV NA and will collapse only ther US fab will be allowed to make the latest tech so you'll see tsmc move the hq to the us and become an american company.
>>102433327lol. lmao even.At least energy prices have recovered for our German friends.
>>102445602
>>102433799the level of ameribrown delusion is insane.Europe>has fabs>has cpu designs>has ASMLAmeriniggers>has fabs>has cpu designs>doesn't have ASML
just invested 5k into intel stocks. they WILL recover! Inshallah they better do or else...
>>102445859you mean ARM? that's an america owned company like every important company in the world. ASML is also mostly owned by americans and the company is controlled by the US. there were desperate moves by the dutch gov recently to prevent them from leaving lmao. and nope europe has just 1 single chip maker and it only makes very niche simple semiconductors and no logic or memory chips.
>>102443833Is there rape?
>>102437884Kek you're such a retard.
>>102445533>Intel stock just jumped massively>20.77 USD>+1.39 (7.17%)and falling
>>102446424yes saar intel is the best saar best chips in the world just watch saar
>>102446485>Explain how using Intels fabs would be a massive conflict of interest for any rival company.>Retard post so hard you complete miss the point in 2 (two) different threads.Yes I am doing the needful for Intel by explaining how untrustworthy they are.Very good saar.
>>102446439Intel is not just becoming the fab for big tech but gets billions from the US military. That's a $$$ printing machine. They'll make chips chink killer drones and missiles - hundreds of billions of them. If you don't understand the US MIC makes fpv drones for 100k each the same ones that chinks sell for 50-200$.
>>102446729Lockheed does not need 1.8nm chips from Intel's newest fabs to make missiles. 130nm chips from the old IBM (currently owned by GloFo) fabs from 20 years ago are totally fine.
>>102446105ARM is owned by Softbank, you sinister brown buffoon
>>102446815guess who owns japan and softbank
>>102446777Really the sweet spot is around 20-30nm.Everything smaller than that is diminishing returns territory that requires a money furnace to get results.It’s a big reason why Intel is in such deep shit.They’re on 10nm, so deep in money furnace territory.but they don’t have the best node, so they don’t get the winner’s spoils.but they need those spoils to keep the money furnace going.
>>102446900Softbank is owned by a jap guy for one third and a few japanese pension funds, tardImagine being a destitute ameribrown claiming he/they somehow own ARM while it can't buy groceries in it's nigger infested shithole.Your shithole can't find welders to build the arizona fab buildings and you dream about cpu manufacturing, lmao.
>>102446559yes saar redeem the intel chips saar
>>102446979jurisdiction is the real ownership. it matters not which child of yours owns what in your house you own it all. the US has jurisdiction over all western countries especially the ones it militarily occupies. both japan and germany are governed by a constitution written by the US and are not allowed to change it or make their own. germany has the "verfassungsschutz" which routinely throws people in a cage at whim which makes germany a defacto dictatorship by a foreign power.
>>102433370>>102433327This is a double-loss for Poolacks.Not only will there be no plant in their homeland, there also won't be a plant in the land they flee too.
>>102443367Don't overestimate Poolacks.They work on our construction sites and they keep getting themselves killed in the most retarded ways, so we need safety personal that watches over them to stop them from doing something stupid.
>>102447503Meanwhile: You eat yourself to death. Do you think that looks smarter?
>>102446729>They'll make chips chink killer drones and missiles - hundreds of billions of them.AFAIK ukrainians are still using chinese drones>If you don't understand the US MIC makes fpv drones for 100k each the same ones that chinks sell for 50-200$.precisely because they are cheap and actually work, unlike your american pieces of shitalso, Intelaviv can't even make CPUs without fucking up. and the new TSMC fab has a lower capacity than their taiwan fab.in short, Intlel and america are fucked.
>>102447900short the stock if you are so sure
>>102447558There are educated Poolacks out there, who could be engineers at home, but instead willingly choose to be refugees and take low-skill jobs in the West.And then they die in a stupid way, because they never did manual labor before.Nobody will ever be as dumb as them.
>>102433374Nana is never going to forgive him. He could have literally invested in almost anything else and not lost that much value.The company is basically surviving on life support and handouts, as well as flatline sales of all of its other business units.
>>102433327Why would a Jewish company want to do something nice for Germany?
>>102433528>fund free education that trains professionals >professionals leave for another country after graduation>profit??? Brilliant.
>>102448035>Why would a Jewish companyOnce Iran is completely pacified (and it will be with full US support), they'll build factories there cementing Israel as a regional hegemony and elevating it to the world superpower while US and EU drowns in browns and blacks becoming a third world shit-holes.
>>102446960It's precisely at 28nm/32nm because you don't have to do anything complex on the design side. It's not like 3nm is terrible cost-wise though, it's still lower in cost per 100m transistors compared to 45nm but it is worst than that sweet spot.The main issue for Intel is getting a cost competitive process with TSMC for 18A. Having AWS publicly back them for a chip design is a good win but yeah, the money pit they once had is now dry and they need more wins to actually see 18A work out.
>>102447482Yeah it's much better to import millions Africans than invite your neighbors, right.>>102433557
