>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use cases.State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC>CPUWeb browsing: 5600GGaming: 12400F, 7600X, 7800X3DWorkstation: 7900X, 9950XAVOID: Intel 13/14 series>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge/Arctic Liquid Freezer III, Hyte THICC Q60Double towers: ID-Cooling FROZN A620 PRO SE, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67>MOTHERBOARDASRock B650M-HDV/M2, B650 LiveMixer, B650 Steel Legend>RAMDDR4: 2x16GB 3200CL16. Budget, 2x8GBDDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30Workstation/high end: consider 2x48GB>SSD (OS drive)Budget: SN580Mid range: SN770Premium: Samsung 990 Pro (Windows only), SN850XFlagship: Sabrent Rocket 5>GPU1080p: RTX 4070 Super, RX 7700 XT1440p: RTX 4070 Ti Super, RX 7900 GRE4K: RTX 4090, RTX 4080 Super, RX 7900 XTXWorkstation: RTX 4000 Series, AVOID: AMD cards>CASE (from $ to $$$)mATX: Montech Air 100, Lian Li A3, Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li O11 Air MiniATX: Phanteks XT PRO(ULTRA), Montech AIR 903 Base/MAX, Antec C5, Lian Li Lancool 216/IIIAVOID: 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, 4000D airflow>PSUBudget: Gold rated 500-600W PSUMid range: ATX 3.0 compliant fully modular gold rated PSU @ 75% max loadHigh end: Seasonic PRIME TXAVOID: GAMEMAXPSU buying guide:https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/ (updated Q3 2024)>MONITOR1080p: KOORUI 24E3, MSI G2412F, MSI MAG 256F, MSI G244PF E21440p: ASRock PG27QFT2A, Dell G2724D4K: Acer Nitro XV275K, Gigabyte M32U, Dell Alienware AW3225QF>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansHigh end: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)Previous: >>102452164
Say something nice about AMD GPU
Is this a good mouse? https://www.logitech.com/en-us/products/mice/mx-anywhere-3s.910-006926.htmlI need something bluetooth with min 4 buttons that lasts fairly long and with no AA batteries
How much will these Dualsenses be? I'd like one.
desk question:a guy near me has a couple of these, both left and right. should i get one that has the wide part on the left or right? i think pic related is the smartest choice, because usually my mousepad is all the way to the right on a desk anyway, and then i could put drinks or a laptop or whatever on the left side.
>>102467184It's like this 4/10 type of girls with low expectations you take as girlfriends in the early years because anything else would be too mentally taxing to endeavour in the long run.Forgiving and tunable to your likings but lacks in the faithfulness department and mentally not even close to you...A Love-deprived girl, most likely because of lower class family with a cheating father and an unfaithful mother.You can do anything you want with (or without) her but not in the social circles you would want to show up with her.All in all it will keep you satisfied for longer time, just not truly happy.
>>102467184>more noise than 4090>more coil whine than 4090>some games crash on AMD gpu only because of bugs with their driversI don't want to insult it for free, but you're getting cucked if you bought those buggy, noisy AMD cards.
Bros I bought 3 ax5400's for 10 bucks each from this euro country, do you think they installed a backdoor to each of these routers, will a clean merlin firmware asus be good enough to wipe it? it seems too good to be true
why do trannies keep buying white cases? they look so disgusting >BROOOO IT'S LIKE VINTAGE OR SOMETHING LIKE IN THE 90Sno it's not, old hardware was beige and your shit is atrocious #FFFFFF
>>102467695what case is that?also it's beige due to your dead skin cell
Recently got a new pc (rx 6750 xt, ryzen 5 7500f). Currently using a decade old 1080p 60hz monitor and I have been pushing the decision for a new monitor away for months now bc i just cant decide whether i should get a 24‘‘ 1080p 144hz or make the leap to 27‘‘ 1440p. On one hand i think i played my whole life 1080p/60hz so even the change to 144hz on a modern 1080p monitor will be a huge difference but on the other hand i mostly play older games and use it for browsing and watching movies a lot so 1440p would make sense too)Now the 1440p monitors cost atleast ~100€ more from what ive seen. A couple questions: How much performance on average is lost with 1440p compared to 1080p?Does only using 1080p increase the lifetime of the hardware bc its less taxing? (I want this new pc to last atleast 5 ideally 7+ years).
>>102467162>>CPU>Web browsing: 5600G>Gaming: 12400F, 7600X, 7800X3D>Workstation: 7900X, 9950X>AVOID: Intel 13/14 series>>GPU>1080p: RTX 4070 Super, RX 7700 XT>1440p: RTX 4070 Ti Super, RX 7900 GRE>4K: RTX 4090, RTX 4080 Super, RX 7900 XTX>Workstation: RTX 4000 Series, AVOID: AMD cardsWhy do you autists keep changing this?
Zoomers will actually buy a 240Hz 4k monitor that their GPU can't run natively, then activate DLSS to emulate the mid-2000s LCD panel experience.Time is a flat circle.
>>102467754dunno go ask transformer who built it on reddityou can see his thread if you reverse search that dreadful image
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IdxsI5hMUohe also made a 10vs11 for 5000 (3d) and 3000 (3600) ryzen cpus toogood to know that eeryone is getting equally fucked
>>102467695Dust is less visible on white vs black.If I had to keep my PC on my desk for some deranged reason, I might go white.
>>102467184It is breddy gud for god of war.
Will rmaing my mobo with msi work or will they send it back to me broken ?
>>102467833this has been an eye openerlinux should be the default gaming OS
>>102467853now replace that with two 80mm fans and it'll actually look kind of cool
>>102467774Nobody should be buying a 1080p panel as their primary screen these days.
>2017 PC crashing 1-2 times a day for reasons unknown, no blue screen or logs>not worth troubleshooting or upgrading because it's still a piece of shit without touching basically everything>don't want to build because there's been no good hardware releases this year>have to wait while suffering to see what AMD does in January or sooner, maybe Black Friday
>>102467792All I know is I can play outrun2006 at over 200fps so that is all that matters.
>>1024677741440p has about 80% more pixels than 1080p so, very roughly speaking, it's about 80% more taxing at equal refresh rate. In the field this is going to vary a lot from game to game, however, so don't put too much stock in it. Check benchmarks of the games you actually play and see if the 6750XT is strong enough for them. For older games my guess is it will be. I myself play mostly old/indie games and get acceptable FPS with a weaker card than you.Running 1080p would let your card last longer, yes, but I don't think that's a good way to look at it - this is an entertainment device so the value is fundamentally subjective. You don't judge your weekend car on its fuel economy.I will say that 1440p is suboptimal for passive media because most of that is 1080p or 4k so fullscreen viewing will be blurred due to fractional scaling (on top of the loss of detail from upscaling). IMO it's not as big a deal as people make it out to be because most streaming/torrented content is compressed to hell from the factory - looks like crap no matter the res. The exception would be if you have a personal library of high quality 1080p media. Though if you're that much of a cinephile you probably don't watch it on your PC.In your situation I would take 1440p because it's far better for gaming/web/office but only slightly worse for movies/TV. I'd maybe even consider 4k if you /only/ play old games that'll run fine on your 6750XT. Best of both worlds but your card will choke hard if you do get into modern games.
>>102467162bruh i really don’t want to deal with building my own pc, i want plug’n’play, im waiting for holidays/newyears for a good sale, i saw a pc (14900KF/RTX4090/32GB/2TB/W11H) for usd$3000 but it sold out, there’s another that has 64GB/4TB/W11P and its $3,700, again, i am waiting for new years to see what else will be here
3080ti's going down to 400
>>102467985>RagnarökÖk
>>102468195my friend bought one of those for $3600 during peak covid
>>102468220Motherfucker.How long, do you think, are 2080s going to be available? Or rather, will they ever drop below 200?
>>102467162sirs is it ok if i use the amd stock cooler with 7800x3d?i upgraded from 3100 but i forgot to buy a cpu fan
>>102467985Fine wine
>>102468220Damn
>>102468135Thanks for this detailed answer! Yeah i dont even need to check, my gpu will definitely be able to run the older games i mostly want to play. I was more implying that 1440p would make sense since these type of games have such high fps anyways thateven a bigger drop wouldnt be noticeable but ofc the better resolution would be a great improvement for sure. And about the lifetime thing its just that I used my old pc for almost 10y before getting the new one and Im the type of guy who doesnt want to deal with all the planning or upgrading every 2-3y but instead have it last a long time. I even only updated drivers 2 times on the old one bc it just worked fine all those years lol. For movies I dont really torrent but watch on streaming sites in 1080p sometimes even 720p if its the only available option so Im completely fine if there would be a little bit of a negative on the media aspect. 4k is out of question tho, just too expensive for me. Makes me believe 1440p might be the right choice then.
>>102468249just bought a 2080ti for $225 on /r/hardware swap, just keep your eye out
For PWRSW, I'd install the connector horizontally with the positive arrow side in PWRBTN# and the negative side into GND?
>>102468313I'm not going to pay more than 200, unless they will never be available again.
Is this good for mve to usb?
>>102468315yes
>>102467184Objectively superior to the 4080 super
>>102468423Boy when the marketing team wakes up you'll be in for the hiding of a lifetime. You'll regret posting i'll tell you what.
>>102468315yes, but +/- makes no difference for switches
>>102468292I'm inclined to believe so as well. Do be advised that really old games, say <2010, might not play nice with 1440p. In my experience there's usually workarounds like modifying config files or just playing windowed but it's something to be aware of. I usually check PCgamingwiki in those cases.
>>102468509Protip: dgvoodoo2 can get a game to output 1440p (assuming for the moment is has widescreen support so you aren't stretching) even if you can't select such a resolution in the game itself.
>Reading negative reviews for FF: XVI >Everyone complaining about stuttering>Only got 1 shader compilation stutter at the beginning of the game>4090All roads lead to VRAM. None of them know that they're stuttering because of it so they blame the developers. I have awakened to the truth.
>>102468528>All roads lead to VRAMVram is a meme - we've had countless proof in these threads.
>>102467162plz assistInitially assembled everything in build, plugged power cable, keyboard and mouse into the back of the computer. Flipped the PSU switch on, hit the power button, nothing happened. Thought for a second, PLUGGED IT INTO THE SURGE PROTECTOR, the fans started "twitching" and a red light on the mobo was flashing. Turned PSU off, unplugged, looked at stuff, looked like the 24 pin mobo power AND GPU 8 pin power weren't ALL the way in. Pushed them farther in, plugged everything back in, hit the power button, still nothing happened. Unplugged everything again, unplugged the front panel connectors from the mobo to double check them against the pdf mobo manual, plugged them back in, I am at least 99% sure they are plugged in properly. Plugged everything back in, directly to the wall and have tried two different outlets (one of which had a WORKING monitor plugged into it), still nothing.I'm out of ideas and ready to ask strangers. Would anyone like to speculate why this computer will not turn on, or give any other indication it's receiving any power?
>>102468543I've had 12GB and it was a complete joke. Damn near every AAA @ 4k had some sort of stutter issue. 16GB is bare minimum for games nowadays.
>>102468553CPU power connectors connected, ram properly mounted, cpu correctly mounted
Anyone have a Torrent and bought an exhaust fan for it? Did you just connect it directly to the motherboard or what? The connector on mine can't reach the fan hub. Guess I should've bought an extension cable. ):<
So I got a PSU for free. Checked the cultist site and it's ranked E.Silverstone SST-ST50F-ESIt'd be for a Ryzen 3600 + RX 580 8GB build. Still avoid using the PSU?
>>102468580Also checked the CPU power cable and it appeared to be all the way in, to the motherboard at least, I can check the PSU end of the things. Checking the CPU itself would be impractical as a cooler is already mounted to it, but I am fairly certain that was installed correctly. I very specifically made sure the "square" corners were matched. I also checked the manual for and was deliberate to install the RAM. I can double check that.
>>102468528Nah, it sounds pretty much like the devs are incompetent.t. developer.
>>102468553>>102468580>>102468668One more thought that occurs. The PSU end of the mobo power cable is split into two connectors like this. I had previous tried to google why and what to do with it, but found no answers Every other mobo power cable i saw on the internet appeared to have a solid 24 pin connector as I would expect. I plugged the larger connector to the slot on the PSU labeled "motherboard," which is a perfect fit, and just left the other half unplugged. I would imagine if I'm supposed to do something else, that would be the issue and I would be a retard.
>>102468668Also forgot the fucking pic
>>102468553>>102468580>>102468668>>102468743>>102468758Sell it and buy a console
>>102468758meant for>>102468743
>>102468743But does the plug on the motherboard have more pins than the one half?
>>102468727Are you suggesting more than half of modern game devs are incompetent rather than it just being a VRAM issue due to having to keep up with graphical trends?
>>102468823The plug on the mobo is the full 24 pin
>>102468858>Are you suggesting more than half of modern game devs are incompetentI actually am.How do I know? Well, I read their code.GPU driver writers are also pretty fucking incompetent.
>>102467162>>102468162Then buy a dell
>>102468894what am I looking at?
>>102468743both halves need to be plugged in
>>102468914Startup code for the nVidia usermode driver. The damn thing converts an ASCII string consisting of all non-NUL characters into UTF-16 multiple times in a row without so much an attempt to store the thing somewhere, store it in the static data segment, or use vector instructions to perform the conversion (CPUs with AVX support can convert 16 characters with a single instruction).And then there was Windows startup code that performed copies within the same process, but instead of doing movs or memcpys it did a whole roundtrip to the kernel and back, wasting thousands of cycles ...
>>102468603pls
>96gb vramlaptops are gonna leave desktops in the dust soon
>>102468951Both halves got plugged in despite the PSU compartment at the bottom of the case being sized for the hands of a Vietnamese child. Still nothing.There are two slots in the PSU labeled CPU (one is CPU, which is what the cord to the CPU plug in the mobo is plugged into, and the other is "VGA2 & CPU" with two 8 pin sockets next to each other).
>>102467695>trannies>disgustingSeems like you answered your own question.
What's a good mini itx case that can fit an ATX PSU and decently sized cooler? I'm looking at the thermaltake core V1 right now
I need to CONSOOM a new PC. Will this be a good machine? I am in the EU and already have the monitor.https://pcpartpicker.com/list/q3sTXk
>>102469180>I am in the EU>links US pcppAssuming Germany prices,a 7700 is MORE than a 7700X. It's also 70-80€ more than a 7600X, so think about whether you actually need that. Alternatively, you'll be able to get a 7600X3D for 40-50€ more.For storage I'd ABSOLUTELY get 2tb, the QOL improvement from just having to worry about storage space significantly less is so nice. It's just 30€ more for an entry level one like NV2 or SN580 which is all most people need. That's just 30-35€ more.For 1.5€ more, you can get the Gigabyte Gaming OC 7700xt, which has an extra fan and higher boost clock. Sapphire Pulse tends to be pretty shit from what I remember because it's an absolute budget tier model.
you ever only upgrade your motherboard? you guys ever do that?
>>102469363why
>>102469276>7700 is MORE than a 7700Xnot if you get the 7700 as TRAY.>I'd ABSOLUTELY get 2tb, the QOL improvement from just having to worry about storage space significantly less is so niceI don't have a ton of storage heavy games and I was planning on putting an older 512gb pcie gen3 ssd in there as well. But you're probably right.>For 1.5€ more, you can get the Gigabyte Gaming OC 7700xtI read that gigabyte cards tend to have bad fans or/and coil whine. Plus I can just overclock the sapphire card a litte, right?
>>1024692767700 is 225, 7600 is 187, 7600x is 205.7700 is best value
>>102469369to go from b*5 to x maybe
So my mobo got fried, I bought the same exact mobo, do I need to reinstall all the drivers and software for the CPU and shit or do I just need to update the BIOS and it's as if I had my previous mobo?
Don't have CPU but decided to build anyway just to be ready. Spent 6 hours troubleshooting what I thought was a dead motherboard just to find out it simply refuses to turn on without a CPU installed.
>>102469402>software for the CPU???
>>102469424lol. just lol.
were the asrock 650 mobos the good ones or was it asus?
>>102469436asrock, at least some of them
>>102469425Idk there were some drivers I had to install or somethingCPU is the Ryzen 5 7600x
>>102469372>not if you get the 7700 as TRAY.Yeah I'm just going off PCPP prices, it's hard to know all the prices in europe and what you can get things for.>I read that gigabyte cards tend to have bad fans or/and coil whine. Plus I can just overclock the sapphire card a litte, right?The sapphire pulse 7700xt specifically had a review saying it had coil whine. It's always a bit of a lottery & everyone can lose it.I personally always try to get 3 fans unless the 2 fan model is SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper>>102469386Looking at benchmarks, the 7700 performs marginally better (sub 5%) than the 7600 in games (which I default to assuming is the workload/focus). I'd argue that's not worth the 40€ at those prices, but if that's important to you or you see a lot of use for the extra cores go for it. 7700 vs 7600x seemed margin of error.
>>102469424I now feel like slightly less of a retard. Thank you
>>1024691807700 is bad, either get the cheaper but barely weaker 7600x or the very slightly more expensive (or even cheaper) but hotter 7700x
>>102469424
can someone give me a cheap cooler for the 7800x3d
>>102469535frozen spirit
>>102469500Are you retarded? 7700 has 33% more cores and this is not an exaggeration, you can run the numbers yourself.
>>102469541im a retard, its called frost spirit
Bump for SSD speeds.>>102468347
>>102469541>>102469572Frogurt Spirit
>>102469459>>102469500I chose the 7700 because I hate CPU bottlenecks and since the ryzen 9000 series release the 7600x did climb in price more than the 7700.
im buying a 7600
>>102469598are you planning to play FO4 (whichI assume that is, maybe it's starfield)I was going off this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pij2bXMB43o>I chose the 7700 because I hate CPU bottlenecksIf you hate cpu bottlenecks and are so worried about it, just wait for 7600x3d
>>102469395why
>>102469424>IM GONNA IM GONNA DEBUGGGGGGGGLmao anon, well played
>>102469669m.2 slots
>>102469669basic mobos are lane-starved, a storefag wouldn't even consider a B-series
>>102469363I did it once for overclocking Spoiler alert my trash heap 9900k didn't overclock (ran a hot 4.9ghz) any better but the new board supported much faster ddr4 overclocks
240hz LED IPS monitor or a 180hz miniLED IPS? Does it matter? Will I notice a difference?
>>102469637is anyone going to stop me???
>>102467162>12.3k of the limited pieces worldwideThose are going to sell out in a millisecond... I'm still gonna try for a Pro bundle though. I'm guessing it'll be around $999.99-$1,203.94.
>>102467558would you like to share anything anon?
what are some pretty cases?
>>102469855
>>102469794I will, when I porch pirate your package
>>102469794We Nvidia boys have been doing you a kindness so far but if you keep being so vocal then we'll become a lot less accommodating
>>102469730if you need more m.2 slots sure you can consider itjust asking HURR SHOULD I UPGRADE MY MOBO with no context is just retardation
>>102469767There IS a difference but barely, and said difference gets mogged over by well tuned each display is in terms of overdrive response times and overshoot (if possible see if both SKUs have reviews with Cumulative Deviation scores like RTINGs & Monitors Unboxed measures).
>>102469932what no context? you can figure out the difference
>>102469855>someone actually finds those massive ass water dispensers visually appealing
>me>Burger>Wanna build PC>For gaymes https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hk8NfyAny improvements? Criticize me harshly.
>>102470267Questions:So ~$1100 is your budget?Do you live within day-trip driving distance of a MicroCenter?What resolution are you gaming at?Do you NEED Wifi or will this PC be used wired LAN?
>>102470267I am trying to keep my budget under 1000 burger bux. Any cuts in the budget would be great for a poorfag
>>102467833>>102468017https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKHF6sHHPA0
>>102470321No microcenter near me at allWifi is a mustResolution don't care. I have a 4k TV it will be connected to. So I guess the higher the better
>>102470332>>102470349>I have a 4k TV it will be connected to. So I guess the higher the betterOof, 4K under $1000 is tough. You are overpaying on the mobo, psu, ram, nvme, case, etc. Gimme a few minutes. Do you mind the GPU being used as for the money it would put you into a higher tier of gaming performance than what is available new.
>>102470366Yeah a used GPU is cool.
>>102470388Alright. Gimme some time.
guys if you have an AMD CPU don't forget to flash bios for sinkclose/sinklock exploit protection.some new ASRock updates just came out today for those who were waitng
>>102470366>4K under $1000 is toughDoesn't need to be. If he's sitting further away from the screen 1080p will probably be fine. And upscaling from 1080p to 4k with DLSS works well enough for most cases like this.Also, it's probably a 60hz panel so no need for high frame rate gaming.
>have specific question about a build>Ask on Reddit >They completely ignore my question and give irrelevant advice >Ask here>Get 0 replies and thread archivesBuilding a PC is so much fun bros trust me dude
>>102470476what?
>>102470476repeat your question so that we can ignore you once more
>>102470476when i ignore someone it's usually because i don't have the answer
Day 533 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.
>>102470388>>102470394Alright this is my primary recommendation (pictured):https://pcpartpicker.com/list/z8fwTYThe 12600K is at parity with the 5600(X) in games but is significantly faster it in general usage apps by 14%:https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-9-9950x/27.htmlSwapped around some overpriced parts and took the savings and upgraded your GPU from a 7600 XT to a 7900 GRE which brings your average FPS @ 4K from 32 to 64 (literally double). I realize I'm veeery slightly over budget by $20 (I tried everything without major sacrifices) but it's really worth those last $20 out of $1000 for the performance in my view. If $1000 is an iron ceiling I did make an identical build around the 5600 (enable PBO in BIOS during startup configuring to make it perform like a 5600X) which again performs on par with the 12600K in games but falls behind elsewhere. Both won't bottleneck the 7900 GRE at 4K. Just sneaks under the limit.https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DLz4KX
What made you switch from console?For me, I initially got into PS5 due to the value, but months later when I looked back I realized that I could've bought a 4090 and pirated all the games or got them for really cheap instead with the money I spent on the whole PS5 ecosystem. It's crazy but that's how they get you.
No more cheap high fps TN monitor, it full of Ips and VA shit
>>102470694consoles offer 0 value because you still need a computer to read emails and shit
>>102470694The ps4 didn't have any racing games for release, so I ditched consoles then and there.
>>102470737grandpa, your phone?
>>102470672Just to drive the point home:https://www.techpowerup.com/review/xfx-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-magnetic-air/36.htmlEven with the much beefier GPU, native 4K is brutal so don't expect max settings but turning settings down to a combo of High/Mid and/or using 1440p upscaling should make things smooth. Also this a worse case scenario test bench of the most graphically demanding AAA titles. Older and less intensive titles will deliver far better results.
>>102470748Ok what about banking and playing free games you torrent? Overclocking and benchmarking? Online shopping? Watching pornography with your buddies?
>>102470694I never really "switched", it was a matter of what I could affordAt some point I could afford to play some 360 games on PC and that was it, that was the last generation where I considered consoles other than Nintendo stuff (I even skip that, I bought a switch only a year ago). It's depressing seeing shelves full of games and there's like 2 or 3 exclusive ones for consoles and the ones for PS5 and Series X look stupidly similar. Might be my boomer ass but I miss when shelves were different.
Who bought this ewaste? Confess.
>>102470694Started with a PS1 and PS2. Loved them. Bought a PS3, realized that the games are so expensive which turned me off to all consoles. Went back to playing MMOs and when the games go on sale I would buy them. I never did buy them since I found out about emulators. Never looked back after that.
Thoughts on the Ryzen 7 2700 X ?im going to probably get a RTX4080 super so i was wondering if the cpu might become a bottleneck. its not bad but its ot its years by now (playing at 1440p)
>>102471001definitely drop in a 5700x3d or 5800x3d if you're getting a 4080
what are some nice white colored ram?
>>102471001if you want to be a penny-pincher you go with radeon not njudea
>>102471001if you got good ddr4, it not that bad
>courier 5 stops away>4 blocks away>"we'll be at your place in about an hour"Are they fapping in the van and play video games? Why are they like this?
>>102469855This is the perfect case design.
>>102467162Fellas, it's time for an upgrade.https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sVdL6DThis is the shitbox I've been running for about a little over a decade now. The GPU and RAM were scavenged off a friend's old build that he scrapped for an upgrade. The monitor and SSD are the only pc components I've actually bought to replace since I built the thing so I'm well out of date when it comes to actually planning out a new build.I would keep using this old rig until it gave up the ghost, but I use this for remote work and some of the software involved now requires DX12.2, which the GPU doesn't support. The Motherboard is slowly failing, one of the RAM sticks is dead, and the CPU struggles handling Chrome so I'm probably just going to take this opportunity to make a new build. So I'm looking to build a PC in Canada under 1k CAD (budgeting is a priority). Work software is not normally resource intensive and most of the gaming I do is RTS and Grand Strategy so I'm looking mainly at middle of the line. Just something that's robust and ideally widely compatible so I can continue to upgrade as necessary over the next decade.
>>102471081He has 12 minutes per stop.Grabbing the package 1 minute, ringing the doorbell and waiting to answer 1 minute, signing off, another minute.Then get back in van, select next address, other minute gone. He now has 8 minutes to get to the next one in time.But if nobody is home, he loses 2 extra minutes just putting the package back and doing the work to put it as "customer not home". If that's the case, only 6 minutes left.That's not a lot of time.
so if my psu doesnt have 12VHPWR what do i do?
>>102471065i dont, just got a raise at work andi`ve saved up some money. allways had good experiences with nvidia so far.>>102471043>>102471071thanks. i think i`ll try it for now as is, the 5800x3d has the same socket so it shouldnt be a hassle to change it should i need it.
>>102471152It's dongle'n time!
hey frens, normally I don't post here but I don't want to make a separate thread about it and you guys seem to know about this stuff. I have an old 2016 Serioux PC and want to add some HDD storage to it but it doesn't have a HDD mount, how can I slap 2x2TB HDDs on it? Do I have to drill the case or something or use some kind of tape?
>>102471088focus g mini is the true sovl, shame about that glass being acrylic though
>>102471214scotch tape
>>102471226>glassPure and utter trash, does not belong on a pc case.
>>102471226I literally ordered this case a couple days ago precisely because it wasn't glassof course it's for a secondary system. The O11 Vision is the most beautiful PC case on the planet.
>>102471248so does airflow according to your opinion
>>102471280>because it wasn't glasswhy the fuck would you specifically go for acrylic? it scratches crazy>O11 Visiongeneric gay fish tank
is the whole 9950x core to core latency issue an actual issue? did it get fixed somehow?
>>102471088Wrong. This is the best case ever made.
how will this cable work? will it be easy?
>>102471291It has enough airflow to keep the components cool.The case should just hold the components, not distract.
>>102471352It's only gonna hold drives and sit on the floor I don't wanna deal with glass for that
>>102471214option C: get an external enclosure like a qnap tr002
>>102471376>plastic front panel>PSU on top ugly af and Fractal has rightly abandoned its design philosophy
Got a SATA SSD (M.2 slots already used) and it's really bad, it can sustain advertised speeds for the first 8GB-ish (I'm guessing that's the cache size) but after that it drops off a fucking cliff (to 10MB/s and even lower). I know it's a cheap Seagate drive but I refuse to believe they would sell an SSD 20 times worse than spinning rust in the current year. Is it defective or could it be something retarded like an overloaded SATA controller?
>>102471406>TWO one hundred eighty millimeter front intake fans
Convince me not to cover my build in Noctua fans>They're expensiveI'm completely willing to pay the premium for the quietness >Just get X cheapo fan and set it to low rpmSacrificing thermals + it'll still be louder then Noctua at the same rpm >They're uglyI disagree, I think the brown and tan is nice
>>102471424is it QLC?
>>102471438>I think the brown and tan is nicei've always thought they were ugly and i still think they are but it's oddly growing on me and i only own one as a vrm fan for my 3090 i think it might actually look nice in some sort of wood/fake wood case
>>102471438Cons are there are better (more airflow with less noise) and cheaper fans out now.But with Noctua's history you can feel comfortable they will be supported and working for a long time.In my current case only the Noctua fans are still working, they're only 13 years old.
>>102471424Sata SSDs need cache, there's a reason MX500s are the default recommendation
>>102471444I'm 99% sure it is, but I can't find specs about this exact model. It's the ZA960CV10002.>>102471484I disable write caching on all my drives so it probably has at least something. It wasn't cheaper than the MX500s, I just couldn't find it in stock in my shithole.
>>102471406>>plastic front panelthe fuck do you think define r6 front panel is made of
>>102471537Yeah, QLC, that's normal then, they choke in sustained write worse than SMR HDDs.
>>102471433they suck and not in a good wayabove 30% pwm is audibleabove 60% is loud as fuck
>>102471557>define r6older than ancient sumeria
>>102471395should have just bought fara 313
>>102471601>SSD from a big brand that I bought in a reputable store can't handle downloading a file larger than 10GB>this is normal, acceptable behaviourI'm a retard for not looking into specs beforehand but Jesus fucking Christ. I guess I'll keep paying the Samsung jew.
>>102471718>Looking to my right at my Define R4
Is it considered weird to build your own NAS?I see alot of people buy QNAP and Synology shitboxes after building a whole ass PC, when they are ultra proprietary hardware.
>>102471867If all you have is a laptop and you're afraid of the command line, and you want it to work out of the box, tomorrow, then it makes sense to buy one.If all you want is a data backup, you can get 99% of the utility by just putting a bunch of storage in an old PC, and plugging it in once a month to run rsync or robocopy.If you really want a server then a proper ZFS home NAS can be built better from scratch for less and be far more upgradeable.But again, a home server is basically a fidget spinner for most of the people that set them up.
Elite 4chan hackeru, how can I control my MSI mb fan speeds without fucking around in bios?
>>102471867>when they are ultra proprietary hardware.a very serious issue i'm sure
>>102471993Are they not detected in FanControl?https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases
>>102472040They are detected in bios and I can control them from there but would prefer to do it on desktop
>>102471867if all you want is a NAS then just buy a NAS. Most people who build a PC to use as a NAS end up using it more like a home server.
>>102468592In my torrent compact I needed extensions to get it into the fanhub.
>>102472101Okay, thank you Elite Hackeru. I will check it out.
is 179 a good price for a tray 7700 non-x?
>>102472180how much can you get a 7600, 7600x & 7700x for?do you need the extra cores?
>buy 2 10900Ks>one needs 1.354v for 5.1ghz, 1.499v for 5.2ghz and 1.528v for 5.3ghz>one needs only 1.314v for 5.1ghz, 1.378v for 5.2ghz and 1.398v for 5.3ghzcpu lootbox fucking sucks bros
>>102471867>>102472029proprietary software is the real issue, especially disk partitioning abstraction layers. both qnap and synology use their own logical volumes systems that can only be mounted on similar devices, even generation upgrade is not always possible.for the price of a qnap or synology I'd much rather build my own, try to find hp microserver, or if 4 bays are enough get ultra low end asustor that's like $200 and use the rest on bigger hdds.hp and asustor are both notable for using no proprietary and minimal amount of otherwise custom software, just a regular no nonsense smb/ftp on ext4 on mdadm on bare metal.
Is the 5950x futureproof for regular desktop use? I'm giving my old AM4 system to my dad but I thought I might as well upgrade the CPU since he's old and sick and this will probably be his last desktop.
you do NOT have a use case for a NAS
>>102472279>he doesn't live in an open gay relationship with 3 other /g/brosWhy even live
>>1024722087500f is like 1347600x is 160 7700 is 180no tray for 7600 or 7700X
>personal cloud
>>102472225>buying 500euro 6 year old cpu
>>102472308It's called vaping, anon. No, it's not cool.
>>102472279windows sucks at raid arrays
>>1024722615600G would be plenty for regular desktop use
>>102472369I already have a 2700X, so that's close enough, I guess. No upgrade needed, then.
>>102472394yeah plenty, i only recommended the 5600G because it has intergrated graphics which means no GPU too
I guess this would be the place to ask this. It's been 8 years since I built my first pc, with the help of a buddy that moved away. So i have to buy a prebuilt now. Can anyone recommend parts with a budget of 1300-1500? I'll only be using it to play games and watch videos.
>>102472404>play gameswhat resolution and fps are you targetting>prebuiltjust watch some PC building videos and do it yourself, way cheaper
>>102471867No. People do it all the time since sometimes it's cheaper than buying your own. If you do decide to buy a NAS then you can use unRAID that runs from a USB for your own OS rather than using the one that it's shipped with if you're worried about locking your data in a propriety software.
it is a scientifically verified fact that anyone with a 7800X3D has a meaty and girthy BWCintelfags also have huge cocks, but they're located in their mouths
>>102467162Convince me the AOC Q27G4X is a bad gaming monitor.
>>102472488only oled monitors are good, anything else is just the physical manifestation of cope
>>102472404If middle schoolers and niggers can build a PC so can you
reminder that poomd cpus are backdoored by mossad jews and can be detonated remotelyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiTngvvD5dI
>>102472404this may be controversial advice here, but check facebook marketplace, preferably on a family members account since i hope you faggots dont actually use facebooki got a great deal on a pc that lasted me 4 years until i wanted to upgrade, now the parts are in my brothers pc and are still going strongi paid $1000 for a pc that would've cost me $1400-1500 pre-built and it was built by a dude who actually knew what he was doingyou can see the person who listed it and can tell if they're a white, competent looking person and not a retarded shitskin who would sell some garbage the same day i bought that pc my irl friend also got one from someone else nearby (i was going to buy it originally but i found a better one so referred it to my friend), he's still using that pc to this day and hasn't opened it up oncei think this is a better way to go than some marked up retail prebuilt shit, but really you should just build your own
>>102472586>intel aviv shill false flagsneck yourself, chaim
So my graphic card is basically confirmed deadWhat's the cheapest replacement I can find for a Sapphire RX 590 Nitro that also performs somewhat if not significantly better? (I'm taking the chance to upgrade it since I'm going to have to change it)Is a 4060 a significant step up?
Lads, i've been on my 970/4790k pc for 10 years, is time to buy a new pc? I want it to last just as long, and thus want a decent build. I use it for 3d and 2d work and games, why is amd cpu in the rec now, will it cause compatability/driver issues than intel/nvidia combo?
>>102472705the script was updated abt 5 years ago, it's intel's turn to job in the CPU market and have GPU compatibility problems
>>102472685>What's the cheapest replacement I can find for a Sapphire RX 590 Nitro that also performs somewhat if not significantly better? (I'm taking the chance to upgrade it since I'm going to have to change it)Define "cheapest replacement". A used 1070 for $90 is 37% faster than the RX 590:https://www.ebay.com/itm/ZOTAC-Nvidia-GeForce-GTX-1070-Mini-8GB-GDDR5-ZT-P10700G-10M-Gaming-Graphics-Card-/226348977438You run into a wall with sub-$100 GPUs where they can get much cheaper to ship only much weaker.
>>102472763>where they can get much cheaper to ship only much weaker.*cant /fixed
>>102472763Brand new replacement that performs at least somewhat better"cheapest" was not the right term, I'm willing to spend a little bit, I'm just not going to buy a 500 bucks card that's all
>>102472404I just built a pc for the first time in 4 years and didn't read any manuals or guides, just from memory. I've only built 3 PCs in my entire life. It's all literally labelled and requires you to plug shit in that matches on the motherboard and your use case. I have ADHD as well.
this am5 msi mobo comes with two 8 pin connectors, but my psu only has one and my cpu doesnt draw that much power. can i get away with plugging in only one?
>>102472311Why not? I wanted the fastest intel cpu that wasnt shitI only spent about 200eur total on both cpus
>>102472798You just plug 1 in and don't plug anything into the other 1, anon-kun.
>>102472785>Brand new replacement that performs at least somewhat better>"cheapest" was not the right term, I'm willing to spend a little bit, I'm just not going to buy a 500 bucks card that's allAlright then for new GPUs according to https://bestvaluegpu.com/ your best options are:RX 6750 XT 12GB for $300: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CH1R789WRX 6800 16GB for $350: https://www.jawa.gg/product/43599/rx6800-16gb-vramThey are each 134% & 165% faster than the RX 590 respectively:https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-590.c3322
Is it worth upgraing my 6700 xt? I am running it with a 7800x3d on a 1440p and 1080p gaming monitor depending on use case. Everything runs 100+ fps but I feel like I need MORE. The mid level upgrades to a 4070 s or 7900 GRE just don't seem worth it.
>>102472897>Everything runs 100+ fps but No, at least wait for RTX 5000 & RDNA4 chips to launch. Current gen was a disappointment from both sides.
>>102472785>>102472859Note that 6800 is significantly more power efficient than 6750XT, that means way less noise and heat and worry about cooler build quality.
why are ssd made for "productivity" more expensive that ssd made for "gaming"? In what cases are you going to notice the difference?
>>102472859>>102472927Is a 4060 for 300 bucks a good deal? It seems to perform slightly better and for the same price.I also know Nvdia has fancy tech like DLSS and ray tracing so at equal price it would be better right?
>>102472829yes im asking if thats okay
Is it worth it bros?The cheapest 7800XT is €90 more expensive and is barely more performant, also 6800XT doesn't suffer from software issues as much because it's a monolithic GPU (which RDNA 4 will also be). It consumes a bit more power but ironically it also has better idle and multi-monitor performance performanceMan, picking a GPU at this point in time is fucking torture.
>>102472946>It seems to perform slightly better ???DLSS is just a cope for when your GPU is too slow to run native resolution, RT looks nice but at that performance point it's not practical.
>>102472946>Is a 4060 for 300 bucks a good deal? It seems to perform slightly better and for the same price.The plain vanilla 4060? Absolutely not, it vs a 6750 XT/6800 is the difference between 45 and 60-67 FPS minimum.https://www.techpowerup.com/review/xfx-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-magnetic-air/36.htmlAs far as features like DLSS & RT they are either crutches for a lack of native performance or take such a colossal framerate hit you'll rarely enable them (at least at this price level).
How hard should I tigthen the spring screws on the CPU cooler? Enough that the cooler won't move but not enough that I have to apply strength when tightening, I assume?
I'm thinking of buying a new LCD monitor to replace my Eizo EV2450, which isn't bad at all, however it's a basic bitch monitor, and I imagine there are far better options now. I'm specifically looking for something that would be best suited for media consoomption. Requirements>BudgetAround 100 euro because I'm a poorfag. I could pay slightly more than that if it's worth it. I don't mind a 2nd hand monitor.>Panel typePreferably VA because of the better contrast>Size24-25", my desk too small to fit a 27". No curved panels.Other nice features would include at least 120Hz for less jitter during playback, 10bit bit depth or at least true 8bit. I don't care about gayming performance in the slightest, I have my CRT for that. Wide colour gamut isn't too important since most content is in sRGB anyway. With all that said, which monitor would best fit my requirements?
>>102472979Sure, do what you gotta go.>Enough that the cooler won't move but not enough that I have to apply strength when tightening, I assume?Enough until you meet significant resistance and then stop.
>>102473064The springs are there to prevent over tightening. You should tighten them up until they feel like they shouldn't move any more without applying tard rage levels of force.
>>102473017Oh nevermind I was looking at the 6600 not the 6750, my mistakeThe 6750 brand new is 400 but reconditioned is 300 bucks which I guess makes it worth it
>>102473070What country? The EU is always a monitor wasteland whenever you poor poor souls come here for such requested assistance.
>>102473112Pooland
I wanna upgrade to a 4090 but the 5090 seems to be right around the corner. Worth it to wait or nah?
>>102473179I'd wait until the 6090 desu
>>102473179it is never worth it to waitit is always worth it to wait
>>102472955Yes it's okay I have done it on my board. If there's no connection there won't be any electrical current going to it. It's there so you can install more power hungry CPUs.
>>102471354bump
>>102471354It's fixed with agesa 1.2.0.2 released this week
>>102473205thank you, i just finally got info about this, apparently the one connecter covers 300w which is more than enough
>>102467162what can the average g tard, the individual, do to help reduce prices? it seems that PC building components keep going up because the market is becoming more niche as gen z gen alpha never make it past the stage of having an smartphone/laptop
I did it /g/. I broke my personal promise and installed fans with RGB lighting. I feel like some zoomer faggot now. I have no moral principles. I am a void.
but y?
>>102473301The prices of everything is rising, housing, food, gasolineYou can slow down the price rise by murdering your local pajeet bitcoin miner but you can't stop it completely
>>102473318It does look good though, admit it, you silly tsundere
>>102473318I bought 3 RGB fans and my motherboard only has 2 ports for the LED. So I just ordered a splitter.
>>102473334>The prices of everything is rising, housing, food, gasolinethe price of unskilled human labor is falling, surely it can be applied somehow to reduce the prices of PC building
>>102473381>the price of unskilled human labor is fallingIn the west, but these things are made in the east where the quality of life is rising over time.
>>102473286just looked it up, from what I understand it seems to be the exact same as the 7950X nowheard people say it was a huge issue, did it actually impact anything?
>>102473397>In the west,and we seem to be bringing back some manufacturing to the west, will prices fall then or it doesn't work like this?
>>102473301Honestly I'm not sureThe market quite literally isn't working.>people don't buy>instead of lowering prices they produce less to keep prices high>people do buy>they just keep prices high>>102473381>>102473397Prices can be made better by breaking up the Taiwanese hegemony created by US gov interference. It's not a coincidence that everything else has competition from Chinese brands, except motherboards with higher end chipsets.
>>102473320The actual method of application doesn't matter as long as the die underneath is covered.
>>102473448>Prices can be made better by breaking up the Taiwanese hegemony created by US gov interference.Anon asked about what the average consumer can do about it, not about how to fix the global economy geopolitically
>>102473448>Prices can be made better by breaking up the Taiwanese hegemony created by US gov interference.is it because of patents?
>>102473179Unless you happen to find a good deal on the 4090 and/or need a GPU now, it's wiser to wait for the 5090 which is rumored to be 50-70% faster than 4090.
Is a 5600gt + NH-C14S good enough that I'm never going to hear it
it's the jews as usualthere, can we go back to talking about hardware now?
>>102467184>Say something nice about AMD GPUit can't do AI
>>102467221>should i get one that has the wide part on the left or right?no, usually a lot of wasted space, you end up not using the stuff in the far corner
>>102472822I don't know where you got them from, but that's the going price on ebay, which is the only place left to get them, if I were you I would sell them and get arrowlake
>>102473489Nah, government export lawsIntel, Nvidia and AMD are barred from supplying their highest end hardware to any company not friendly with the US government.It's why China has the 4090D, it's also why they ger weird versions of CPUs that are cut down in strange ways, it's why every other week there is some Chinese women smuggling hundreds of i7s and i9s, no because it's cheaper but because they don't have accessThis would extend to chipsets too.Occasionally this shit would fall off a truck but even that is getting harder as companies move production out of china, boards used to be almost made all in China but my last 2 was from Vietnam
>>102473320>outmoded pastes instead of ptm7950ell em ay oh
>>102473451Why did they make the IHS in such a convoluted shape?
reminder to waitfags
psus are all the same size on the side you screw into the pc, right?
>>102473689Backwards compatibility with AM4 coolers is the official story.
>>1024706941: My xbox series x was the B I G G E S T piece of shit that constantly shut off.2: Microsoft did not give a shit about the warranty.3: Got sick of paying to play online. And judging by all the constant price increases, I got out at a good time.
>>102473708All of a given form factor (ATX, SFX etc), yes.
>>102470694they shut down the white knight chronicles 2 and warhawk servers
>>102470694>What made you switch from console?Nothing, I have always been a PChad, I still have my first GPU even (9500GT).
Should I buy a 9700x or a 7800X3D? I saw they both have similar FPS, and the 9700X is cheaper.I'll mainly use it for gaming and Blender Rendering paired with a 4090, so which one would be better for 3D rendering performance?
>>102473722>AMD's obsession with their poorfag cultists is holding back Ryzen's performancefucking hell, and they want to keep AM5 around until 2027?
>>102473778A socket change a year keeps the goyim in fear.
>>102473567>it can't do AIYou're buying a GPU to render 3D graphics, not to do useless AI shit.
>>102473778What are you seething about exactly? Cooler compatibility? For real?
Used 3080 or 4060 ti?
Why should I opt for a 3.5" HDD for my desktop scratch drive instead of a 2.5"?
>>102473814that's why it's something nice to be said
I'm looking into RAM for my Ryzen 9900X and I've seen some people say: "6000mhz is the sweet spot"while others say:"6400mhz is the sweet spot"Is Ryzen 9000 guaranteed to be compatible with 6400? Or is it a coin toss?
You guys just don't get it, they NEED to release AM6 right NOW so we have a more competitive market
>>102473825higher capacity, faster, more reliable, and they run cooler than 2.5
>>102473701>6 monthsNowadays a 6 year old computer is perfectly fine.
>>102473817I seethe about AMD making the IHS three times as thick as it should be to accommodate people who would be turned off from upgrading their CPU by the need to buy a new cooler.
>>102473841It is a coin toss, go for 6000CL30
>>102473825Also cheaper.
>>102473825I use some 2.5" disks from old laptops as scratch disks perfectly fine.It depends on how fast you need the scratch disk to be.An advantage of 2.5" is that they spin up much much faster than 3.5", and are free if you have old laptops lying around.
>>102473868>AMD making the IHS three times as thickAnd still runs cooler than Intel shit.
>>102473763>I saw they both have similar FPSOn what? No way
>>102473873What are you basing that on?Please elaborate. What tests have you seen?
>>102473890>posted from my 95°C entry level CPU
>>102473903Cry more Intelaviv shill
>>102473903which one?
What should I ooooooopgrade? I have a new monitor coming
>>102473917Post 14th gen sun temperature edition
>>102473926>6700 XTKek, call us again when you have at least a 4070 Ti where the big boys play.
>>102473947i forgot 14th gen existed
>>102467162>>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICEhow do I setup a GTX 750 ti with a raspberry pi? there's the PCIE bridge, jeff geerling wrote about ithttps://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2023/testing-pcie-on-raspberry-pi-5I noticed he got a GPU to work but there's a power supply on his desk, the GTX 750 ti didn't need a VGA pin from the PSU, would the rpi be able somehow to supply enough power? it does have the official RPi5 power supply
>>102473896
>>102473926I don't see anything there that needs upgrading for the next few years.Unless you need to play any particular new "AAA" slop game at 400fps or something.
>>1024671624070 for 1080p! Are you quite literally taking the piss?
>>102473763>Blender RenderingYou should check blender-specific benchmarks.The X3D parts are usually slowed in anything outside of gaming.
>>102473873Is there any point in buying 6000 when the 6400 is €3 more expensive?I can run the 6400 at 6000 speeds, right?
Is it worth the extra $50 to get the Ryzen 9 7950X over the 7800X3D
>>102474315>>102474315>>102474315>>102474315
>>102474280No if you care about gaymin. The 7950 is worse for gaming.
>>102474280What's your use case? The 7800x3d is the best gaming CPU on the market
>>102474280what's your use case
What is a good GPU card that I can get for my system? 4 years ago, I put together a Ryzen 7 2700 (too pussy to try OC'ing at the time) and 32GB of RAM and stuck a 1660S card in to hold me over since that was the time when GPU prices started going up. Now I want to go from 1080p gaming to 1440p. Do I need to worry about my CPU throttling with certain cards?
>>102474507Pro tip: AMD cards work better than Nvidia cards when using older CPUs due to Nvidia’s driver overhead.
>>102474631Protip: you're a retard
>>102474507An R7 57800X3D + 4070 Super would be a good upgrade. Keep your mobo, RAM, SSD.
>>102474507get a 5700x3D + anything above a 4070
>>102474861>57800X3D
>>102474507if you want fake shit go nvidiaif you want good rasterization performance for the money, go AMD7700XT is big hitter for "mid budget" builds
>>102471376yes. (for air cooling that is)