https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/events/ces/

Tune in to the CES opening keynote by NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang live in Las Vegas on Monday, January 6, at 6:30 p.m. PT.

NVIDIA WON

THANK YOU NVIDIA

Nigga fart

https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC
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The 5700x3d is $180, think that it will drop any further this year?

>>102738790
ritsu a shit

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intel bros I don't feel so good

>>102738983
145 in AliExpress
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mssQk1i

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>>102739056
One can argue its not too bad considering it total system power

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>>102739056
You could achieve about the the same outcome by just downclocking your 13900k by 200MHz.
Two generations of nogains, and now intel lost its only unique advantage vs AMD (not being hamstringed by chiplet latency).
It's over.

we royal peytor nao

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>>102739056
Forget about Arrow Lake, the whole LGA1851 platform is a skip.
I'm not even joking.

Guys what is THE oled monitor to get right now?

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what stability test am I supposed to be using ?

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The chinese are cherrypicking intel slide to make them look bad. I feel like we are not getting the full context because 80 watts down during gaming would mean arrowlake is way more efficient than zen 5 vanilla.

>>102739319
OCCT: overall system
y-Cruncher (VT3): memory OC + memory controller
Karhu (paid): memory OC
memtest86+: stock memory test
Prime 95 (small fft): CPU stress test, make sure you set sane CPU power & current limits in the BIOS before you run this.

>>102739423
It's supposedly intels own slides.

>>102739286
The one you can afford.

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>>102739423
>Bitcher 3 bench in late '24
The Red engine's dead and buried, totally irrelevant.

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>>102739286
Depends on region to a point but if you have loadsemone the asus 4k 240hz qdoled. If not loadsemone (just plenty of money) the alienware or msi 4k 240hz qdoled.

>but muh woled is brig-
See pic

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>>102739459
I know that but but what preventing them from dropping all the slides? we are only being shown 1-2 slide of the probably 30+ slides which doesn't really paint the full picture

Any 4k monitor recommendations?
Thinking of getting Gigabyte Gaming 28 Inch M28U EK Monitor | 4K/UHD

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>>102739494
You got the performance summary slides.
What else would there be to show?

>>102739509
I believe if you're 4K gaming, you have to go all the way and get an OLED monitor.
I couldn't justify a lower image quality if 4K is so computationally expensive.

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>>102736345
The main problem with this video is that it doesn't consider actual performance. Muh cores = performance is just as retarded as muh VRAM = performance

The 4090 is only 28% more powerful at 4K than the 4080 according to recent TPU data, despite having 68% more shader cores.

Additionally, little Timmy's video essay focuses too much on the branding of the cards. As he noted, a significant percentage of the generations didn't have XX80 Ti class cards, or he randomly decided to put that XX80 Ti in a different category. Much better to look at performance vs price from top to bottom of the stack, as muh on paper specs are irrelevant to the consumer and are almost universally used for clickb8 brandfagging.

Should I just buy a b650 mobo now for the 9800X3D?

>>102739539
test system details such as power profile and RAM configuration

>>102739539
Everything. Clearly the leaker has all the slides since the image is so high quality (which is mostly from a pdf file). but the leaker only chose to leak only a few of them specifically only ones without any context is putting arrowlake viability into question.

For example there is a lot of question about the slide that you show. Ie. is the comparision based on comparing 285K to 9950X at the same power level or is it at slow or if its running at lets say 50% less power (for instance). we just don't the context to the slide you are showing. For all we now the next slide we can be seeing 285K out performaning 9950X by lets say 200% if running at max turbo. We just dont know the context of the slide

Whose "ecosystem" is best? Like corsair, nzxt etc.
I've read that corsairs app is shit, is this still the case?

Is there a way to toggle the "EZ Debug LED" through software so I don't have to grab a flashlight whenever I want to check the guts?

How much would running at PCIe x8 degrade a 3090Ti's performance?

>>102739702
Not that bad, even 4090 isn't crippled with 8 lane Gen 4.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-pci-express-scaling/

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Obligatory anti anime build

>>102739643
>>102739608
Intel would never negatively misrepresent their own CPU in a direct comparison against an AMD counterpart.
You're just coping.
It was never realistic to expect wild gaming gains when going to chiplets from a monolithic CPU.

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>>102739744
>anti anime
you can't stop progress. anime pc will the next norm just like how tempered glass became the norm.

>>102739654
You shouldn't want to be in any "ecosystem" but especially not Corsair's.

>>102739654
You are the ecosystem for their bloatware HIV, and groupieism festering rent free in your head if you buy into brand loyalty, not the other way round.

>>102739654
I'd hope Lian Li and Corsair got theirs right.
Try picking one that doesn't require you to use their proprietary apps to get the most out of the features.

>>102739771
>>102739803
He's just trying to minimize software bloat.

>>102739474
We don’t play engines, you know?

Name one reason to buy an X870E board over an X670E one.

>>102739843
We don't play Witcher 3 anymore.

>>102739858
You seem mentally ill

>>102739873
What are you trying to prove by posting Witcher 3 benchmarks in late '24?
Your mental deficiency?

>>102739858
Yeah, we only play Passmark here.

>>102739851
Given apparently sata is dead according to these threads muh pcie5 is a reason.

>>102739858
>We don't play Witcher 3
>8,921 players right now
Who????

Noooo, you can't just play 10 years old games, you must play new games that run at 15 fps on flagship hardware while looking worse than the 10 years old games!

>>102739895
gaming benchmarks?

How long until nvidias 5000 series and the next series of AMD chips drop? I'm thinking of building around Black Friday and just wanna know if this shits gonna be outpaced within 6 months.

>>102739924
Outdated game engine less than 100,000 people in the world play in a given time.

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>>102739911
There is no difference in the number of PCIe 5.0 lanes between X670E and X870E.

>>102739752
ok but is the slide you posted positive for 285K? i don't think so. if anything it shows 285k barely competing against 9950x. which is why we need the context for the comparison. maybe intel comparing 285k at 50% lower power than 9950x. we just don't know. the leaker conveniently left the context of the comparison out

>>102739929
well the 9800x3d chips should be out in 1-2 months
5090 5080 should be revealed in 2025 ces and out by feb

>>102739948
Be honest, anon, are you bagholding INTC?

>>102739922
TW3 is neither a good game nor a good benchmark nowadays. At least use their more recent bad game, that's all it's good for anyway.

>>102739922
No one cares about Witcher 3 benchmarks in '24, even their developers abandoned the engine.
Count the number of people who asked /pcbg/ to review their Witcher 3 gaymen PC.
No one.

>>102739964
This is not a peer therapy group, can you fuck off

>>102739964
>No one cares about Witcher 3
8k people care right now, 18k peak in 24h, enough to fill a few hundred pcbg threads

>>102739998
Quit projecting your mental illness.

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how'd i do? already had the $0 parts from previous parts. found the 5700x3d for cheap on aliexpress, mainly for my partner to play all the mods 9 minecraft pack
prices are in kangaroo dollarydoos

>>102740016
>8k people care right now,
None of them are in /pcbg/ asking for Witcher 3 benchmarks.
Let them stay in their containment chamber.

>>102739949
I think I'll wait another year then. I don't run anything too intensive. Heaviest thing I see myself running is KCD2 at 1440p. My shit still works so I can take my time.

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>>102740018

>>102740045
>Worthless manchild stuck in mid 2010's

>>102740042
>None of them are in /pcbg/
Irrelevant, you said no one cared and I proved you wrong

Is it true that Nvidia sucks ass at Directstorage games like Ratchet and FFXVI?

>>102740074
>No one cares about Witcher 3 benchmarks in '24
>'you said no one cared'
Correct, no one cares about Witcher 3 benchmarks in '24.
Go through the /pcbg/ archive for this past year and find 1 anon asking how to plan a PC to play Witcher 3.

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>'muh steam playerbase'
Nigger, there's more pieces of meats playing Bloons TD 6.

>game is le good because funny steam number

>>102740083
yeah

>>102740038
>one stick of JEDEC 3200 RAM
that is going to ruin terribly even with a 3D chip
you always want at least two sticks

>>102740100
>Correct
Incorrect, because there are 8k peoples playing the game right now
>anon asking how to plan a PC to play Witcher 3
Because anons often don’t ask about specific games, doesn’t make everything else irrelevant >>102733234

>12700k @ 5ghz e core 4ghz p core
>4090
>gaymin on aw3225qf
what do i even upgrade to
i'm thinking i just wait a few generations

>>102739450
how long do you usually run y-cruncher or p95 ?

I'm running p95 small fft now and my cpu doesn't seem to be running hot but the core frequency is way lower now like at 4.5 ghz.

My cpu seems to be locked into 82 W of package power also if that is normal or not.

>>102740038
>one stick of ram
>CL22
>be quiet cooler
>AM3 build from scratch
If I'm being honest, pretty fucking bad

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I want to build a computer with a 7800x3d and a 4080 super
how do I decide what other components to get SPECIFICALLY and how do I decide which of the two main components to get SPECIFICALLY?
do I just sort best selling on PC part picker and go with that?
can I build a computer on a bed? I don't have a desk to work on

>>102740200
>Because anons often don’t ask about specific games
They do if they care enough about it, I've seen plenty planning their build/upgrade for BG3, Elden Ring, MHWild, etc.
No one cares about Witcher 3 benchmarks in '24.

Did anyone in /pcbg/ asked how well a system can handle Witcher 3 recently? No one.

>because there are 8k peoples playing the game right now
You're too dumb and/or proud to accept that doesn't mean those people care about Witcher 3 benchmarks in /pcbg/

>>102740221
zen3/am4 whatever

>>102740205
keep the 12700k
sell the 4090 and buy a 5090 to gayme at 4k harder

>>102740246
Also I need a monitor and I have NO fucking clue what to get for that at all

>>102740246
>how do I decide what other components to get SPECIFICALLY and how do I decide which of the two main components to get SPECIFICALLY?
Sort by price in your country & then compare the options. There's shit to look at with like performance or whatever if you care enough, but likely differences will be minimal
>can I build a computer on a bed?
build the motherboard on top of the motherboard box on your bed, I wouldn't put it on the mattress/blanket itself

>>102740246
Mostly depends on your budget and whether you just want parts that work reliably (aethestics/brand ignored).

>>102740246
bro, just simply ask to be spoon-fed

>>102740296
I don't have a budget
I just want shit from manufactures that won't rape me

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>>102738790
Asking again for some more opinions before I take the plunge, aside from the Intel (lol) are there any huge problems with this build?

>buying a new video card now just means you can move up one tier in DLSS quality
lol when you think about it that way i don't think it's worth upgrading for a few gens

>>102740248
>They do if they care enough about it
Nah, doesn’t work like that
>Did anyone in /pcbg/ asked
Anons don’t post benchmarks based on someone asking them to post a specific benchmark
>that doesn't mean those people care about Witcher 3 benchmarks in /pcbg/
This place doesn’t consist of a static group of the same people constant building computers. Anons come, ask any question on the subject and leave
Am I talking to an LLM or something?

>>102740114
>Have you ever played heavily modded games?
yes, and it uses more VRAM, not RAM

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>>102740315
Something like this will work, you pick the case and monitor.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yTFLWt

There's an ASUS TUF 4080 Super for $1000, but you might end up with one that has poor-quality thermal paste.
Not the end of the world, but you'll have to repaste it if it comes to that.

I suggest going for OLED monitors if price isn't an issue.
The motherboard can be swapped to something different, but that X670E ProRS is good value for money.

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>>102740221
>>102740170
what's wrong with 1 stick of ram, and CL22?
the last time i looked at building a system was 2011 when the i5-2500k was released, and ram didn't really matter
should i be getting another 3200mhz cl22 stick for dual channel?

3200mhz looked like it was the most stable for without messing around with bios settings

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>>102740471
Pic is how real people in /pcbg/ ask about building PCs for the games they care to play.
You keep on coping with your Witcher 3 incel nude mods.

>>102740112
>black desert
if you're bored read the reviews on that. mind-blowing shit

>>102740483
The double data rate (DDR) memory spec is designed to work best with two memory channels populated.
There are two memory slots per channel (four total), but mainstream PCs only need two sticks total (1 dimm per channel).
You'll be missing at least 30% system performance if you run one channel instead.
https://www.mirabilisdesign.com/dual-channel-ddr/

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>>102740483
>what's wrong with 1 stick of ram
you're on a dual channel platform
if you have two sticks of RAM that you can read from at the same time, your bandwidth is effectively doubled
>the last time i looked at building a system was 2011 when the i5-2500k was released, and ram didn't really matter
you also needed two sticks on a 2500K
>3200mhz looked like it was the most stable for without messing around with bios settings
yes, but you can get 3200C16 sticks for the same price
that isn't the most serious issue, it's the single stick, just get another 16GB 3200C22

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is 4k gaming still a meme? looking to upgrade from my 1080 finally and dont know whether to pull trig on a 4080 super or wait for the 5080

>>102740543
You have to buy the best possible video card you can afford to play at 4K.
With that much investment, you owe it to yourself to play on a 4K OLED screen.

>>102740495
>Pic is how real people in /pcbg/ ask about building
Your personal tastes on this subject are irrelevant
A few posts above you >>102740246 for example
Just stop making retarded takes to not embarrass yourself like that next time

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>>102740568
Stop posting outdated, irrelevant benchmarks that no one in /pcbg/ requested, or you'll be called out for being the retard you are.
The fact that you resorted to Steam player count shows it.

>>102740330
ram for intel should be 6400/cl32

>>102740330
how much headroom do you have on that PSU with that cpu/gpu?

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>>102740527
thanks m8

How necessary is pcie5 on a mobo?

>>102740628
no problem
now to go back to telling people posting speccy/hwinfo screenshots to enable XMP

>>102740645
Maybe the RTX 5090 will need the Gen 5 x16 lane, we don't know.
Lower tier cards probably won't need it.
M.2 Gen 5 lanes, you probably don't need it.

6800 currently available for $360 after tax, want to upgrade from an old 6600. Any chance they'll go any lower these coming months? That's already the entire budget I had in mind for an upgrade.

>>102740587
>Stop posting outdated
Anon can post whatever he wants, your silly take that people don’t care was disproven by steam online about several hundred times bigger player base than this thread
>no one in /pcbg/ requested
Because that’s not how requests are made, this thread right now proves you wrong pretty much
>The fact that you resorted to Steam player count shows it.
The fact that you have no counter arguments shows it even more

>>102740674
>Anon can post whatever he wants
Then I can say whatever I want about his post, goes both ways.
>Because that’s not how requests are made, this thread right now proves you wrong pretty much
Except no one in this thread care to build a PC to play Witcher 3.

is this any good? https://www.amazon.com/Monitor-FreeSync-Premium-Refresh-Support/dp/B0CJQ7V6M8/

>>102740587
>mh wilds is the only relevant game

>>102740671
Should've mentioned I'm planning on sticking to 1080p, too. Pairing it with a 5700X3D.

>>102740710
>Anons care enough about the game to build a PC around it

Only real world benchmarks matter.

>>102740083
No

>>102740330
You might as well pay the $10 or so extra (if US) and get an 850W PSU.

>>102740689
>Then I can say whatever I want about his post
Yes
And I can say whatever I want about yours
>Except no one in this thread care to build a PC to play Witcher 3.
By this logic anons don’t play games at all if they didn’t specify any, they just build then, I guess
Or they only play the one single game they specified, everything else will be ignored until the next build

>>102740759
Plenty of people share their planned build and say it's for general gaming (new or old games/emulation).

>>102740671
>>102740713
a 7700xt is 350$, newer & performs better
Just get that, anon

>>102734363
Well fuck me running. Mobo was dead.
First time this has ever happened.

Just finished building and my PC wouldn't boot, me being scared shitless i started wondering if I did something wrong since there was no bios, no error message, nothing
>disconnected 2nd monitor
>pc boots normally and I can connect it after it boots with no issue
this genuinely sounds absurd, Im about to check both DP cables if maybe there is an issue there but this just makes no sense since it works perfectly fine after it boots

>repaste gpu
>clicking noise, artifacting all over the screen and its glitching out

dubs get to decide how i kill myself

>>102740886
drown yourself in anime pussies

Was planning a birthday build but things got put on hold. But the new chips come out pretty soon, although I had my theory crafted build finished a few months ago so I quit paying attention and I'm out of the loop. Are the new chips going to be better than the r7 7800X 3D?

>>102740886
>artifacting all over the screen and its glitching out
Could be a contact pressure issue, if the screw torque is too high you might start cracking the solder balls under the VRAM chips.

>>102740935
>>102740886
took out the chinkshit anti-sag thing i use and the issue is gone. thank fuck.

>>102740819
If it's an AM5 board, the initial memory training takes some time (5~10 minutes).

>>102740863
Maybe update the video card driver before you connect the 2nd screen.

>>102740932
9800X3D should be better, everything else is inferior including Arrow Lake CPUs.

>>102740972
Does this mean your video card's PCB is bent/deformed?

>>102740977
>If it's an AM5 board, the initial memory training takes some time (5~10 minutes).
No memory training. It told me CMOS was corrupt, took me to BIOS and restarted twice. Then nothing.
Even called MC where I got the bundle and even they were stumped and told me to RMA since it was too long out since I got it.

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12600kf or 12700kf

>>102740990
Didn't look bent to me when I was repasting. I'm just gonna assume it's because I put the anti sag shit at a bad spot and cry from relief.

>>102740977
>Maybe update the video card driver before you connect the 2nd screen.
nope, still the case
as I said it works perfectly fine once PC gets past the post its just that if I try to start it with both screens connected it just sits there with black screen and nothing happens even if I leave it for minutes

for now im ok with just disconnecting it for few seconds before boot but I will check the cables later cause I can not imagine anything else being a problem

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>>102741016
If it's for a gaming PC, 12600KF is good enough.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-9-9950x/21.html

>>102741022
Not the guy you replied to, but I have a small amount of input. A friend of mine experienced a similar problem a few days ago. Turns out that the graphics card was being partially blocked or bumped outward by this shroud for a chip which we couldn't remove, and so the card wasn't making full contact inside of the slot. We swapped the slot to the other one on the motherboard away from the chip shroud and everything immediately worked. Not sure what kind of board you have so this might not be relevant, but I had never seen an issue like this in my 15 years of PC tinkering so I thought it was worth a mention.

Either way, I'm glad you got your shit working.

>>102741016
Considering the 12700kf is only a couple of bucks more, I'd just get that. It's a why not purchase

Looks like AMD finally sold through the 6700 XT in the USA

Just talked to a friend who builds PC and he said "that PS5 PRO is more powerful than 2 4090's connected thru a SLI Board Connection. He told me "Nvidia is terrified of PS5 PRO cutting in to their marketshare as it will do the "same thing" but 2x Cheaper. Sony WINS!!

>>102741111
MLID?

>>102741111
PS5 Pro won't sell well until it's closer to GTA6's release date.

Can someone explain the Snoy meme

>>102741154
Someone made a typo and it caught on, it sounds funny.

>>102741068
thanks, Im going to check it if its not the cable
the shroud is pretty flat on b650 eagle but I will doublecheck if the GPU is properly in place anyway

>>102741186
>b650 eagle
Good board pick.

Can the 9800X3D release already? I've been wanting to upgrade for a while.

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>spends thousands to build
>only ended up to be used as 4chan browser

>>102741197
is it really? Firstly it only has 1gbps ethernet port not 2.5 and secondly it only has ALC897, not ALC1220 or ALC4080. What makes it a good board pick?

>>102741210
that means you won

i want to buy something pc related but i don't know what to get
i already have a 12700k and a 4090 and a fancy oled monitor
what do i buy

>>102741231
A better game controller for when you play Road & Track Presents: The Need For Speed.

>>102741231
You wait for the 5090.

>>102741239
i have a ds5 and i got the 30th anniversary one last week too

>>102741240
the 5090 is in january and even then i might skip and wait for 60 series

>>102741231
A nice desk and a chair, maybe get into custom water cooling and overclocking.

>>102741253
Personally, I'm extremely excited for what Nvidia has to offer with the 5000 series. It's going to be the fruit of the trillions that got injected from the AI boom.

>>102741272
i boguht some nvidia stock a few weeks ago and at this rate itll be funding my 5090 if i decide to get one

>>102741267
my chair is falling apart…but i want to get something tech related. also im not a fan of water cooling. i was thinking of getting a mini led monitor for productivity stuff but there doesnt seem to be many 4k 27”ones that are good

>>102741272
Considering development timelines, RTX 60 is more likely to see those benefits

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Ryzen RX 5600x
GTX 1080
16gb DDR4 3200
650w 80+ gold

1080p gaming is solid, with ~90fps in Far Cry 5, 65fps in Red Dead II, and 140fps in CS:2.
For similar performance or a little better in 1440p, what would a decent GPU be that would match with the CPU and not break the bank? The 1080 is the only used part in the rig.

>>102741231
Do you have a nice UPS? Good headphones + External DAC/Amp?

>>102741368
yes, yes, and yes
bought a sinewave ups last year after some thunderstorm scares
bought the hd560s 2 years ago
using a fiio dac

>>102741231
Perhaps a case to put that CPU and GPU in?

>>102741231
Good chair
Good keyboard
VR headset
Racing wheel

>>102741361
What are your temps with that case? Hypothetically without an AIO just fans

>>102741401
only thing im missing is a racing wheel and chair bu i dont really want either of those desu

>>102741406
No clue. Probably good. 5 fans are intake and the one by the IO plate exhaust. So, good positive pressure and enough openings to let the hot air escape. Without the AIO, I think I'd still add a couple fans to exhaust from the top of the case.

That said, running Time Spy, the 5600X never hit 60°c and stayed at 4.6ghh the whole run.

Not an easy case to build in, though. Limited room out back for cable management.

>>102738790
Why doesn’t Gigashit release their final version of F11 bios? it’s been in F11D for two months.

>>102738790
How does blurry does anime look on a 15 inch 1440p? Thinking of either getting a 1080p or 1440p for browsing but I'm worried about the ubiquity of 1080p content on a 1440p screen.

>>102741428
don't underestimate a good chair, anon
All real techies have one

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>32 pack for $22
insane deal

fiber internet

>>102741231

>>102741580

>>102741590
not available in my area

>>102741557
How many fans does one user need?

>>102741448
pretty much all amd mobos are beta bios until agesa is dropped for opensil

>>102741595
Is your OLED a 4K model? Have you considered 3x4K OLED models for 12K Gaming Kino?

>>102741627
yes it's 4k 240hz and 3x isnt even possible on a 4090 right now...unless maybe you do nvidia surround but then you're limited to 60hz

>>102741637
also that would be a wild waste of money
i'm looking for something that would actually be useful
[spoiler]but can also fill in the void of loneliness i feel :([/spoiler]

>>102741557
100% a typo right?

>>102741124
some hilarious delusional nigger on twitter

>>102741823
So MLID

>>102741361
Anything up to 4070Ti Super

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>>102741361
Shameless bump

>>102741935
I'd like to keep in the $300-$350 range. Thinking AMD, probably, but I don't know what the best bang for the buck is.

>>102739068
>AliExpress
"lol", said the Chinese seller, "lmao"

>>102741951
7700XT or a used 6800

>>102741945
>using tv as monitor
stop, your poverty is showing

>>102741945
>pc is exhausting heat onto tv
IDIOT!!!!

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Any recommendations for a decent set of 120mm PWM case fans that aren't obnoxiously loud or expensive? Found these https://www.amazon.co.uk/Arctic-P12-Value-Pack-Pressure-optimised/dp/B07HC782D5 for a decent price. Not looking to spend much more than £30 if possible. Are case fans pretty much built equally, or is there a legitimate reason to go for the be quiet!, Noctua, etc?
I'm going to replace and add another 120mm fan on my cooler, put 3 120mm fans on the case front, and then move the current 140mm fan from the front to the top rear.

>>102741969
*rumao

>>102742082
I think be quite is worth the money tbqh. If you get the high RPM ones when your PC boots up it cleans the dust out then you adjust the speed though software and its quite as a mouse.

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>>102742045
Thanks
>>102742065
>>102742075
Not my main PC. Building for someone else.

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>>102742065
>>102742075
Not even my backup PC

>>102740817
I'll admit AV1 encoding would be appreciated and a newer generation never hurts. Only finding an ASUS dual fan at that price point though, is there much reason to be concerned about build quality and temps?

I'm thinking of moving my PC off my desk and onto a slab of wood. I'm getting real fucking tired of how loud it is up here.

>>102742255
...or you could adjust your fan curves quieter

>>102742275
Do you think I haven't? I have Noctua fans + Cooler (NH-D15), 4090 undervolted and everything set to as low as I can take it.

I'm considering switching to an overkill AIO.

>>102741969
Pay more for the same CPU in Amazon then goy

can i build something decent these days for $1300?

>>102742475
yes as long as you dont touch AAAAslops

>>102738790
should I buy a 40 series card now, wait to buy a 50 series card in 4-5 months, or wait 4-5 months and buy a used 40 series card after the 50 series releases?

>>102742492
if any of you guys are bored and want to build me something for $1300 i'll take your suggestions seriously. going to buy parts tomorrow

>>102742521
50 uses 4nm node which is the same as 40 gpu so don't get too worked up over it

>>102742527
also i have bad luck with amd

>>102742527
12700kf for $170 on amazon prime deal
mobo for $150
4070 Super for $630
32gb for $90
add some other random shit and youll get to $1300

>>102742533
no it's on 3nm

>>102742572
hopefully it will be for rubin but not blackwell

>>102742369
>he fell for the noctua meme

>>102742566
thanks.

i just saw this after looking at the sticky.
this any good?

https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/TKD48d/excellent-intel-gamingstreaming-build

>>102742255
>>102742369
Slab is broke I use this and it does great

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Hyper-Tough-3-Tier-Multipurpose-Wire-Shelving-Rack-Black-Color-750lbs-Load-Capacity-for-Adult/3852682694?classType=VARIANT&athbdg=L1102

>>102742593
that actually looks like a pretty good build for that $1300 target

>>102742593
itll work but i personally wouldn't build it cause aesthetically itll look ugly

>>102742415
Thanks, I think I will. Happy to pay an extra 20% to have a contract with a company that has to follow my country's laws and won't take a month and the price of the item to ship it back to China.
You'd have to be fully fucking retarded to trust AliExpress for anything more valuable than 30 bucks.

Are AIO water coolers more quiet than air coolers? Mine gets really loud I want to make my computer quieter.

>>102742593
This list is slightly over budget, but it has a better CPU and DDR5.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rWCQjH

The fun thing about shopping now is you can buy high-end motherboards (+$500) at deep discounts.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VVC48d/asrock-z690-taichi-atx-lga1700-motherboard-z690-taichi
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MNWzK8/asus-rog-strix-z690-e-gaming-wifi-atx-lga1700-motherboard-rog-strix-z690-e-gaming-wifi

>>102742723
You can set the pump speed to a constant 50~70% and adjust the fan curves accordingly.
As long as the CPU temperature isn't above 80°C under high loads, you can set slower fan RPMs for the radiator.
I'd tweak those settings first before you swap coolers.

>7800x3d is out of stock on Amazon constantly
>newegg lists them for 600 fucking dollars
>micro center lists them as in-store purchases only
>I live like 4 hours away from the closest one
>b&h is out of stock

What the hell do I do? Should I just shut up and get a 7900x and concede that I'll have worse gaming performance?
I'm not fucking using Intel, fuck that noise.

>>102742881
get a 7950x3d

>>102742881
7800X3D seems to be getting replenished fairly often.
I've seen it for under $430 today, maybe set a notification for that price.
Don't count on getting a better deal, that won't happen until the 9800X3D launches.

>>102742881
9800X3D is coming out soon. This is such a shit time to get into PC building for high end components because even the 4090 is sold out.

>>102742879
Well currently I have an air cooler, and yeah it gets hot, it's a 7950x and I compile a lot on all cores.

>>102742950
The best time to buy top-tier cards is the earliest time they're back to MSRP anyway.
That was like Spring~Summer '23 for the 4090, before the Chinese started to smuggle and mod them into server cards.
https://www.techpowerup.com/316066/special-chinese-factories-are-dismantling-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-graphics-cards-and-turning-them-into-ai-friendly-gpu-shape

>>102742957
AIO will be a big improvement then, I thought you were wondering if your AIO was faulty.
You want an AIO with a 280/360/420 radiator (the larger the better), I think it's usually best to install it in the top panel of the case so check for clearance.

>>102742957
I don't think there's a single air cooler that could keep a 7950x below its throttle temp when the CPU is going full tilt

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>>102742852
thanks. i noticed some dude's comment in the original link and it had the same cpu you chose. i also like that he picked a gigabyte motherboard, i've had good experience with them, although it's ddr4 only. but i don't think ddr5 is that important

why have GPUs maintained their value so well? normally the used market tanks but you can buy a new GPU for about the same price as a used one right now.

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>>102743022
DDR4 memory is cheap, but the boards are generally overpriced.
Whichever you choose, I'd get the 12700KF Prime Day deal.

PNY Verto 4070 Super card also isn't as good as the ASUS Dual, 38 dBA & near 1800 RPM fan speed will be loud.
The video card will generally be your loudest component when gaming.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/galax-geforce-rtx-4070-super-ex/37.html

>>102743040
Because the used card seller needs to account for their upgrade cost.
It also depends on the amount of alternatives in the market.
There are plenty of different cards that can replace an RTX 3070, and fewer alternative models exist as you move up the stack.

>>102743067
the 13600k has a deal too and is the better cpu

>>102743133
Gaming performance isn't that different, the 12700KF will have better multicore performance (8P cores vs 6). >>102741054
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-9-9950x/19.html
And it's offered at a larger discount.

The goal of your build is to make the most out of $1300.
12700KF is the better choice with that goal in mind.
This is a revised list with a Gigabyte board.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LqfLWt

>>102743167
thanks!

>>102739539
>+28%
Why such a big difference for Total War Warhammer 3?

>>102743186
Total War engine is notoriously shit, it's a known pain point for their devs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RW7Q2wHtQQ

I hope 7800X3Ds are abundant and back to getting discounts once 9800X3D launches

>>102738790
What lamp/bulb you're using, OP?

I have a 5800X with an Arctic Freezer 34 that sits around 85-90 under load. Would getting a better CPU Tower fan help with the temps at all? Hate hearing the CPU fan rev up every other 3 minutes or so because the 5800X runs hot.

>>102743325
No. Adjust your fan in bios.

>>102743325
of course a better tower would help with temps, but its worth testing different fan curves before you spend any money, otherwise Id recommend the phantom spirit or liquid freezer iii 360

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Anybody have some monitor recommendations during the amazon prime sale? Currently I have the LG UltraGear 27 inch 27GL850-B.AUS which I'm mostly fine with, but the colors on it appear more green than they should be. Want something that's a bit more color accurate. The stand doesn't matter as I'm going to throw it on an arm. It's either going to be a dual monitor for me or instead be used for my wife's pc I'm considering on building for her to do digital art with.

>https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07TD94TQF/

>>102743325
You can also set lower CPU temperature limits to let the automatic boost throttle a bit earlier.

>>102743325
>Arctic Freezer 34
Pretty small heatsink. Could be better to throw a bigger one on there

>>102743459
Time to go OLED
https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-QD-OLED-2560x1440-240Hz-FreeSync-Adjustable/dp/B0D8HD6L6N

MSI's 240Hz 1440p QD-OLED monitor MAG 271QPX sold out on Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CWPXVQJN/

Probably a retarded question, but if I build a new pc switching from Intel to AMD but keep my storage, I only need to reactivate windows, correct?
No reinstallation of everything?

>>102743573
Keep files backed up whether you decide to retain Windows or clean install it.
Best case for you, there's just unused driver bloat without a clean install.

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>i9 -2.85%
fucking lel

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>>102743689
>Why didn't they share Witcher 3 benchmarks?

>>102741111
Your friend is an idiot the ps5 pro's gpu is literally comparable to a 7800XT

>>102743743
That probably didn't happen.

I kinda regret buying high refresh 1080p over 4k to be honest
Minecraft at high render distance made me realize this

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what are the benefits of this? (vertical gpu holders)

or is it to cater to the argb fish tank case cattle?

>>102743867
a benefit is that the GPU is not torquing your motherboard. i would never buy such a device, but that is a benefit.

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I took my PC to a technician for a bunch of upgrades and it's working fine, but when I ran some games the case felt a bit hot and I notcied the rear cooler seems to have been installed the wrong way and intaking instead of exhausting air like it originally was before the upgrade. Hwmonitor says the temperature is fine even when I'm gaming, but I'm still a bit anxious over this. Is it actually installed the wrong way? Should I take the PC back to that faggot so he fix this? How dangerous for my PC is something like this?

>>102743916
you're overreacting you can easily do that yourself. remove the sidepanel and unscrew the fan and put it the other way around and that's it. Usually they have an arrow that tells you which direction the air is going through

>>102743867
worse airflow (with modern cases)
maybe better support for the power cable and less likely to burst in flames

>>102743867
literally just to look good
maybe, in certain circumstances, you might have some SFF case with a mesh side panel that will allow the gpu to suck in fresh air directly, but 99% of the time its for looks

>>102743939
I might be overreacting, it's just that I've never really did that stuff myself, I only watched people doing it. Do I need to unplug the fan in order to flip it the other way around?

>>102743916
this nigga really considering going to a technician just to flip the orientation of his case fan lmao

>>102743964
Nah, just unscrew the fan and then screw it back the other way around, you shouldn't need to unplug the cable, also you should consider starting to do this kind of simple maintenance yourself, it really can save you a good chunk of money.

>>102743325
>Would getting a better CPU Tower fan help with the temps at all
no
the 5800X does not become cooler with a better cooler
not intuitive, i know
>Hate hearing the CPU fan rev up every other 3 minutes or so because the 5800X runs hot
make the curve gentler in the BIOS

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Day 552 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.

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>>102739803
>>102739824
>>102739654
Just buy aquasuite nerds

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>>102743867
looks cool zoomshit
>muh rgb
we were cutting windows in cases before they sold them.
>>102743951
airflow isn't an issue with a water block lmao

>>102744130
They will be announced on january 5th unless AMD asspulls sub $400 "high end" GPUs out its ass soon.

>>102744404
it's a shame, now is literally the prime opportunity to release RDNA4

So i need to upgrade my haswell build.
AM5 is overpriced as fuck currently so decided for a cheap AM4 build.
Im getting a 5800X3D, if im not overclocking the cheapest B550 motherboard would do right?

For example MSI B550M PRO-VDH WIFI is $50 and ASUS PRIME B550M-A AC is $65, all i care about is 2-4 m2 slot compatibility and 5800X3D compatibility.

>>102744420
should be fine

>>102744420
>AM5 is overpriced as fuck currently
I take it this is a region-specific thing? Because in the US and Western Europe a 7600/X build is generally cheaper than a 5800X3D one right now.

In any case, those boards should work fine with it. I'd personally take the MSI model since it has a BIOS flash button so you're covered in the event you get old stock.

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>>102738790
Which PSU should I get based on this?

Ryzen 5 7600X
Noctua NH-D15
Radeon RX 6800 XT Saphire 16GB
AORUS x670 ELITE AX
TFORCE DDR5 6000mhz 16GB x 2
SSD SATA Kingston 1 TB

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My last PC which was pretty old stopped loving me a two weeks back. So I was in need of a decent budget friendly PC which is achievable while keeping in mind that I got limited resources. The objective of the build is to support casual gaming, multitasking, DAW, editing, rendering and other similar stuff without any issue whatsoever. I named all the parts individually below.
Motherboard >MSI PRO H610M-E DDR4 Motherboard, Micro-ATX - Supports 14th/13th/12th Gen Intel Core Processors, LGA 1700-2 x DIMMs (3200MHz), 1x PCIe 4.0 x16 Slot, 1 x M.2 Gen3, USB 3.2 Gen1, 1G LAN, HDMI 1.4 & VGA

RAM >Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (1x16GB) DDR4 3200MHZ UDIMM C16 Desktop RAM Memory Module Black (2 sticks).

SSD >Western Digital WD Black SN770 NVMe 1TB, Upto 5150MB/s, 5Y Warranty, PCIe Gen 4 NVMe M.2 (2280), Gaming Storage, Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) (WDS100T3X0E)

AIO >Cooler Master ML240L Core ARGB CPU Liquid Cooler - Black | Support Intel & AMD Processor - LGA1700, LGA1200, LGA1151, AM5, AM4 | Gen S Dual Chamber Pump | 240mm AIO | New Pressure Optimised Fans

PSU >CORSAIR CX Series CX750 80 Plus Bronze ATX Power Supply, A 120mm thermally Controlled Low-Noise Cooling Fan, Compact 125mm-long casing,

Case >GALAX PC Case Revolution-06 (REV-06W) White Gaming Cabinet | Supports ATX, M-ATX, ITX | 4 RGB Cooling Fans | Hinged Magnetic Tempered Glass Door | Mesh Panel | Minimalist design

GPU >GIGABYTE Geforce RTX 4060 Eagle Oc 8G Graphics Card, 3X Windforce Fans, 8Gb 128-Bit Gddr6, Gv-N4060Eagle Oc-8Gd Video Card, pci_e_x16

Processor >Intel Core I5 12400F 12 Gen Generation Desktop Pc Processor 6, CPU with 18Mb Cache and Up to 4.40 Ghz Clock Speed Ddr5 and Ddr4 Ram Support Lga 1700 Socket, Micro ATX
Do you think it can all of the tasks I have mentioned? I am open to recommendations and feedbacks but I have a budget of only1400 usd and that incorporates my microtek online UPS and other peripherals also.

>>102744612
650W would be the minimum but ideally you'd want 750W+. Naturally a unit of good quality, too.

>>102744622
Just post a PCPP link next time anon. This is a website so we can click on links.
Your build is okay in that it'll work and do what you want it to do. There's some room for optimization though. Can you tell us how much your UPS and peripherals cost so we can factor those into the revised build?

>>102744622
Also, please confirm your country. No sense trying to optimize a UK build with American prices.

>>102744638
UPS
>Microtek Brand High Frequency E2 Series (1 PH in - 1 PH Out) IGBT Technology Based Online UPS for Home, Office and Shop (1KVA/24VDC-IB)

Monitor
>Acer SA272E 27 Inch Full HD IPS Ultra Slim (7.2mm Thick) Backlight LED LCD Monitor I Zero Frame I 100Hz Refresh I 1 MS VRB I AMD Free Sync I 1xHDMI 1xVGA I Stereo Speakers I Eye Care I White (2 in nos)

>>102744668
Yes, its UK.

>>102744612
why are you buying the D15

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sub $100 IPS monitors seem common even in europe, but what about VA monitors, are they worth considering at all? lenovo Lenovo D24-45 and Lenovo D27-45 are supposedly half price on amazon at $83 and $93 in my country. i have a $10 coupon as well.

i have an old NEC EA231WMi, which is 8 bits per channel e-IPS, it doesn't have a consistent gamma curve in bright vs dark areas, is that solved on modern monitors?
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/gamma_calibration.php

i was going to wait for next gen 2160p OLED that might start production in late 2025 but i might consider these cheap 1080p IPS or VA if they're a decent upgrade over my old NEC. no gaming, don't need high brightness.

>>102744704
Thanks. There's a UK version of PCPP that you should have used. Give me 5 minutes and I'll take a crack at it.

or AOC 24B3HM, 27B3HM
normal price seems like $80-$90 in burgerland so maybe these 75hz VA monitors aren't anything special

>>102744692
>>102744704
Are you buying these in the UK? Seem to be out of stock.

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>>102738790
Give me a reason why I shouldn't, the top end of the budget is £230 as I'm building for cheapskates

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This is good as it's going to get huh? Is MSI a good brand? Only other one that's on sale is the Gigabyte verison. https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-windforce-gv-n407tswf3max-oc-16gd-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-super-16gb-gddr6x/p/N82E16814932735?Item=N82E16814932735

>>102744814
Local store. The owner of the store is friendly with me. I just informed him prior that I would be interested in buying those parts. So he will keep them in stock for some time. What do you think about the build?

>>102739744
>implying color matching White is any better than anime builds
Two sides of the same faggot coin, faggot.

>>102744840
8GB DDR5 sticks aren't much faster than DDR4 on account of the x16 layout (half the chips = half the bank groups). I'd go for 2x16GB DDR4 outside of very specific applications. The mobo is also super cut down but there's not much else at this budget so whatever.

>>102743916
LMAO!

>>102744876
Well how much are you paying for them? I've got a fresh build in the £1200 range but if the UPS is £400 then your budget is blown.

>>102744884
I thought there's like an up to 20% boost to perf with DDR5 albiet I know the sticks I've chosen aren't exactly for their timings or speed.

>>102744914
Yeah the difference can be huge in highly bandwidth-constrained scenarios but the CPU you've chosen is too weak to push that much data. You haven't listed the use-cases for the build so we're recommending somewhat blind. If you could tell us what the rig is for, and ideally post the rest of it, we could give you more targeted/accurate reccs.

>>102744861
Looks like a solid deal. I'd pull if you're playing at =<1400p

>>102744897
The UPS costs around £140. The build overall costs £1100.
> I've got a fresh build in the £1200 range
As it is my budget is near the price range of your build I think I should know the parts you used in your PC? What did you use? What do do with the PC? Can it handle the tasks you want the PC to do? Are you even satisfied with your build?

Need some more storage space and wanted to buy a 4tb nvme. The pdf in op is outdated so i wanted to know what is difference between something like a wd black 850x, a Samsung 990pro and a lexar nq790, aside from read/write speeds. I doubt I'd feel the extra 300/400mbs extra of speed so should i keep an eye out for some specific features like slc cache or whatever? The pricing on eu amazon is 305€, 290€ and 247€ respectively.

>>102744787
If absolutely, positively, meta-physically NO GAMING then yes budget VAs are fine. Gamma issues can be model-specific though.

>>102744812
Even for office/desktop use, I would not want to spend money on a display that is less than 120/144 Hz in 2024/5. The reduction in input lag and smoothness of animation from just moving the cursor around, scrolling webpages, and moving windows in the OS is something that is too night-and-day over 60/75Hz panels and I wouldn't want to go back and being used to it.

>>102744971
Thanks. Here's the revised list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/nCvxh3
The UPS and monitor are placeholders to get the price right. As you can see it's quite a bit more potent than your original build while also costing less.

>I think I should know the parts you used in your PC?
This isn't my PC it's a parts list I devised based on your budget and uses.

>>102745006
Thanks anon.

>>102744988
>SN850X vs. 990PRO
Very little difference in practical use. Unless you know exactly what you need, i.e. you're building a workstation with a known and well-tested production pipeline, just buy the cheaper one on the day. Check out the TomsHardware reviews of each to see the (minimal) difference.

>NQ790
This model uses QLC NAND which is slower and less durable but also cheaper. It may be better value for a secondary data/game drive but is unsuitable for the workloads at which the other two excel. Plus, all three are kind of overkill for that application.

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Who makes the best 3rd party Nvidia cards?

Why can't Arrow Lake independent reviews come out tomorrow at launch? Why are they delaying them to when everyone can test

>>102744404
October is when they announce GPUs though

>>102744404
It will be 600$ mid-range

>>102744957
Right now it's to replace a dying i7 3770 in my brothers (plural) PC.
We've upgraded the GTX 970 to a RTX 3060ti, but the main bottleneck is the
CPU now.
Use case is CPU intensive games and general multi-tasking ie game and a twitch stream.
Whilst the best of the best isn't needed £250 is the top I can go for a new CPU mobo and ram in a MATX form factor.

>>102745078
Think about it from Intel's (or anyone else's) perspective - what's the upside of permitting early reviews? If the product is good then people will buy it regardless but if it's bad, or even just "fine", then you lose out on day-1 "whale" sales. There is a potential benefit to consumer sentiment but a) that doesn't put food on the table and b) your product needs to be damn good to pull it off.

So 4090s will come down soon right?

>>102745112
Yeah you're in the right ballpark. For those uses I definitely would go 2x16GB DDR4. With a £250 top line I'd also try for a better motherboard.
Example list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/vNT4tn

Are there really no AMD cards than can do 2160p? Why did they just stop at 1440?
Also have they stopped selling the GRE? And how is a 4070 Ti Super 'budget'?
I think I may have Alzheimer's.

>>102745150
Those are just the OP's recommendations. You can run any card at any resolution you want with varying levels of success.

>Are there really no AMD cards than can do 2160p?
I'm going to guess that this particular OP considers DLSS to be mandatory at 4k. Maybe you agree maybe you don't.

>have they stopped selling the GRE?
No.

>how is a 4070 Ti Super 'budget'?
Context anon. It's "budget" relative to the other card(s) at the target resolution.

>>102745052
>less durable
Interesting, although that lexar does come with 5yr warranty. I was thinking of also putting windows on it since I'm still on a SATA drive from the dinosaur ages, and primary use case will be vidya storage, but no way these new drives have a lower lifespan than an old SATA ssd, right (currently I'm still using a Samsung 830 with 69% drive remaining life according to hwinfo as OS drive)?

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Surely Nvidia isnt planning to string us along into 2025 without card announcements?

>>102745136
Honestly I think you're right Anon, I thought DDR5 would be a good choice but that motherboard seems like a better choice than getting a fan splitter and better ram.
I wish I could move on the price more but it's like pulling teeth, originally I wanted to go with an 7600 build but getting them to pay the first penny is nearly impossible.

https://github.com/obsproject/obs-studio/releases

Refactored the NVENC implementation with various improvements [derrod]
SDK 12.2 features, such as split encoding, are now supported.
Additional features from old SDKs are supported:
B-Frames as reference
Target Quality VBR mode (CQVBR)

NVIDIA WON

THANK YOU NVIDIA

>>102745175
So basically op is a faggot. Gotcha. Thanks for taking time to reply.
It would be interesting to know how many illiterates have been conned by op into buying more expensive 'budget' options. Seems like a lucrative contract he's got.

what's the difference between Super and TI cards?

My ass is incredibly itchy

>>102745242
Super means especially; very
TI means titanium

>>102745263
does the 4070 TI Super have a higher titanium content than the other 4070 models?

>>102745255
h

>>102745187
they usually announce a new series in sep/oct but looks like it wont happen until jan now

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>>102745276
its actually pronounced "tie" and stands for "tiny improvement"

>>102745242
Super cards are refreshes of cards released a year ago to piss of AMD.
TI cards are used to create "in-between" SKUs of cards (segmentation).


Also could someone create a new thread

I'm lazy, can I just move old SSD to new PC and be done with it?

>>102745512
should be fine

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I've taken an m2 SSD out of a laptop to use in my Gigabyte B660M DS3H DDR4 motherboard. However the SSD's original enclosure doesn't fit in the motherboard and can't be screwed in at any point to make it fit.

Two questions, second is optional if there's an answer to the first:

Can I safely secure this m2 SSD through other means (e.g. some kind of tape to hold it down on to the motherboard), and if so then how?

Are there generic m2 SSD enclosures I can buy which *will* fit on to my motherboard, or is there no standard?

TIA

>>102745742
Have you considered taking it out of its weird laptop enclosure?

>>102745512
Yes, but if you're on windows check for drivers

>>102745749
Are m2 SSDs fine to use without any enclosure at all?

>>102745795
Sure - an enclosure is just that, an enclosure. The only bit that matters is the drive itself being securely fitted. It is probably done like that for the laptop to act as a heatsink in the chassis and use non-standard retention.

>>102745795
that's how most people use them?

I decided 2 sticks of RAM would be lonely so I bought a 2nd 16GB kit. Same model number but I got the first from Newegg and second from Amazon. How do I make sure they're identical?

anons I just got done repasting my gpu with PTM7950, it's idling at 45's and i know thats when the phase shift happens but it's also hitting thermal limits at any game i play. Is this just regular behaviour until the heat cycles fix it or did I fuck something up?

>>102745964
Heat cycle it a few times. Note the phase change isn't instant - it will take a minute or two to fully shift.

>>102745959
check your horoscope

is the spam bot in charge of this thread going to make a new OP or did his russian software crash?

>>102746245
he's probably trying to figure out what to use to contact his handler other than discord

>>102746234
what if one is hynix A and the other is B

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>>102745964
what GPU? Did you use correct memory pads?

>>102746277
then use the konami code