wtf is up with displaying Nendos and figs in your computer case?
Is this some zoomer meme now that RGB vomit is out of style?

>>102757076
this is future of pc building

>>102757017
aaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeee my monies

lga1700 bartlett lake on intel 4

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Oh, mighty Su, with wisdom keen,
You craft the future, pure and clean.
Yet as we wait with bated breath,
A price too high could spell its death.

The 8800XT we desire,
A blazing card, all gamers’ fire.
But hear our plea, at $399,
For higher, it may not survive the line.

Too steep a cost, it will not thrive,
A legend lost, dead on arrival.
So set the price where dreams can soar,
And we shall sing your praise once more!

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>tfw fomo'd $550 into a 7800x3d

>>102757062
faggot led ram looks amazing

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>>102757076
>he has no sense of individuality
Ngmi

>>102757076
>Nendos
>zoomer
If it was zoomers it would be funko pops

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>>102757138
Return or cancel the order asap...
I'm not sure even owning a 4090 would justify that scalped purchase.

>>102757143
sex with elaina

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>>102757138
Topkek why didn't you just buy a 7950X3D at that point?

>>102757143
>tranime
>rgbt
>screens
holy fucking cringe

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>>102757136
I hate to break your heart anon but it won't be below 600. If it is, it won't deliver on the performance.

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>>102757143
Looks nice anon.

>>102757171
tranime website, chud

>>102757143
>attack on titan
holy shit taste

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>>102757062
>12GB 5070
damn...

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Just installed my new CPU/mobo
Are these temps good or bad? I used the honeywell meme pads if it matters

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>>102757198

>>102757143
is dat a lian li lancool 2 mesh performance (tm)i see

>>102757205
no way she can wipe properly

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>>102757208
Seems about right anon. Unless I really did fuck up the paste process.

>>102757062
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/R6hfKX
I dunno where to go from here, how do I know what case fits my shit? I don't want a fuckhuge one either if I can help it.
>use case
Maya/Blender/AE are the most intensive ones.
>budget
Around 2k.
>cunt
Some fourth world seanig country whose currency is .75x usd.

>>102757218
someone who spent money on ass implants has a custom made bidet for her new ass, anon. that goes without saying.

>>102757235
>buying amd for blender
ohnonono

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>>102757208
Phase change pads need to go through several thermal cycles for the curing process to settle in.
Maybe run Cinebench r23 between a 2 to 5-minute interval, wait 1~2 minutes (cooldown), and repeat the process 10 times.

You don't even have to do this, just use your PC normally and the regular thermal cycling will work.

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>>102757136
What do you think we can expect from 8800 XT in terms of performance?
Another 7800 XT situation with barely any uplift from the 6800 XT perchance?

>>102757211
subtitles are mostly done by trannies now who rush to get theirs out first so they can have the most clicks and views
most people dont give a shit which just fuels this endless loop of shittery

i want to believe that a 285k + ddr5 9600mhz ram can beat a 9800x3d…

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>>102757235

>>102757277
Anything better than a 7900XT would be surprising.
>Omg but 7900XT already being sold below seven hund-
Then buy the 7900XT. It's that simple.

>>102757258
more like
>buying amd for anything productivity

>>102757277
rumors so far say its between gre and 7900xt which is more than enough for most people anyways
the real kicker will be the cost

>>102757277
4080 raster
TiS RT
Anything below is DOA

>RDOA4

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>>102757258
>>102757306
I'll go look for a 4070 I guess.

>>102757313
surely the 9800x3d will be good at games and productivity…right?

>>102757352
non 3d is better for productivity
x3d is for gaymes

>>102757340
Might want to consider the 4060 Ti 16GB version as well

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>>102757332

my dad works for amd and he said the 8900xtx is going to be 30% faster than the 5090 while using less power, they're going to strike the killing blow to nvidia

>people complain power draw is getting ridiculous (it really wasnt)
>both amd and intel go for efficiency instead
>people still complain
this is why you dont listen to retarded consoomere

>>102757340
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/R6hfKX
Ram isn't that big of a deal for X3D chips, but try to get a 6000MT/s CL30 kit if it's reasonably priced in your region.
Any in this list is fine.
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/memory/#S=6000&Z=32768002&F=2666666,10000000&B=1100000000,1350000000&sort=price&page=1

30-36-36-76 timing is the better kit in that list.

>>102757385
Same thing happened going from rtx3000 to 4000

>>102757401
the nvidia cope never made any sense because a 4090 limited to 300w still outperforms literally every other card in existence

my dad works for Nvidia (he's Jensen Huang) he rang his cousin at AMD and told her to delay RDNA4 so nobody buys it over Blackwell

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>>102757385
>people complain power draw is getting ridiculous
They're right, at least at stock configurations

>>102757372
>>102757388
Thanks bros.

>>102757424
>125W to 253W (double) gives you the last 3% of performance
lol lmao

>>102757424
when pc components start drawing as much power as a washing machine, dryer, or even ac, then we can talk. until then youre shitting your pants over pennies on your power bill

>>102757385
this is why you don't listen to reddit*

what made gaymers start caring about power draw anyways?
it was never a major issue outside of shit like fermi which was an anomaly and also funny how loud it was just to keep it cool
now people trip over themselves pointing all these meaningless fps per watt measurements like we're supposed to keep an eye on the killawatt while we're playing vidya
idgaf what my pc is pulling from the wall when im gayming and never will
is this just poorfag cope from all the consolers who migrated over the years? people coping saying they would 100% buy x card if it just had better power draw when in reality its just sour grapes?

>>102757514
it was amdrone cope
>people coping saying they would 100% buy x card if it just had better power draw when in reality its just sour grapes?
yeah.

i want separate breakers for the gpu and cpu. i wanna pull 2000 watts and get 600 fps at 4k. i want an entirely different enclosure just for the gpu. this is how progress is made.

>>102757514
people are broke, a 400W cpu requires a better cooler, a bigger psu, has three times the running costs and most importantly even GPUs aren't hitting 400W so its insane that is what the 14900K was demanding.

>>102757514
it's reddit
it's always fucking REDDIT
you have to give up free performance because uhh climate change lol save the planet also i live in the bahamas and my balls get sweaty and sticky if i play a game for too long
>>102757557
you don't run prime95 24/7
it pulls 400 W if you have a setup capable of drawing 400 W, otherwise it gently throttles to a lower suitable power draw
this is how computers should work, there shouldn't be any arbitrary limiters, performance should be maximized out of the box

>gaslight intel ans claim you wont buy their cpu because le housefire meme le 300w cpu (even though neither of these are true unless youre benchmarking)
>shit on them when they reduce power draw by 80w for the same performance
cant win. i could never own a business because customers are always WRONG and RETARDED

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>>102757514
It's called efficiency and tidiness. If low efficiency doesn't irk you, then you're just low IQ sorry anon.

>>102757581
you can own a business. you just have to learn to ignore anything that customers say and go off what they actually do.
revealed preferences speaks so much more to what people actually want (because they actually go out and buy it) over stated preference.

You'd have to be mentally ill to still be buying intcel at this point

youd have to be mentally ill to be gayming at this point

>>102757619
Cope

>>102757626
>>102757615

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8m8Gvj
>Around 2.5k budget
>America
>I do 3d modeling, video editing and some audio production alongside playing games

I had this list sitting in my tab for a while and I need help since I'm not sure what I'm really doing, a lot of these were recommended by a friend.
Do you guys have any recommendations for monitors? I'm looking for a 1440p one but I don't know anything about monitors.

>>102757599
all components have terrible efficiency at their peak performance level
choose one

>>102755966
>9800X3D fucking when?! So I can buy a 7800X3D at sane prices
lol the reason 7800x3D is so expensive right now is because AMD has cut production of it and that means the price will not be going down.

why on earth would i buy arrow lake if its a one and done chipset and its lower performance than the previous gen
has there ever been a new cpu gen that was objectively worse than the prior gen?

Since Arrow Lake will have separate P and E core voltage planes, I wonder if max OC (1.4+V) P cores with stock frequency (1.0-1.2V) E cores is the way to have it both ways: max ST with efficient MT.

>>102757647
Support small business anon

The truth is arrow lake will be the standard 10% improvement with the power limits unlocked. The real question you should be asking is if thats even safe to do.

>>102757460
Not about the cost of power. I don't live in the third world. It's about comfort. I don't want a noisy space heater next to me.

>>102757514
theres a difference between 80-100W drawn by the 10900k/12900k and the 150-220W drawn by the 11900k/13900k/14900k
one is acceptable to many and the other isnt

>>102757683
nobodys 14900k draws 200w in games and even if it dis (it doesnt), it wouldnt matter

>>102757655
yes
AMD bins one CCD for performance and one for efficiency
i also hope they separated the power plane for the interconnect so they don't burn up the ring bus again
>>102757663
CPUs don't die from unlocked power limits
motherboards VRMs can, however
>>102757666
>i live in the bahamas and my balls get sweaty and sticky if i play a game for too long
called it
space heaters draw thousands of watts, you're overreacting

>>102757352
Yes, leaked benchmarks indicate this:

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/100900/amd-ryzen-9800x3d-benchmark-suggests-this-wont-be-just-great-gaming-cpu-but-an-all-rounder/index.html

https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/ryzen-7-9800x3d-benchmark-leak

I WANT TO BELIEVE!

>>102757358
I will use my X3D for production and there is nothing, NOTHING you can do about it.

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>>102757693
shut the fuck up retard

>>102757718
OH MY FRICKING GOD MY CPU USED 200W FOR 15 SECONDS MY FUCKING POWER BILL IS GOUNG UP 50 CENTS THIS MONTH WOE IS MEEEEE
shut the fuck up nigger

>>102757734
It's average power though
And you feel the heat from the CPU that pulls more power than a gtx1080

>14900k idles at 15w
>7800x3d idles at 50-120w
how much are you saving really

>>102757762
Delete this this goes against the narrative

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>>102757762
that's not even remotely true but for the sake of argument running that setup for 8 hours would consume the same amount of additional power as turning on the oven for 5 minutes

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>Unlike our other measurements, which report "CPU power only," these results are measured at the wall socket (220 V AC)
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-9-9950x/23.html
About 26W difference, not a big deal. The PSU's low/idle efficiency matters more at this point.

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>>102757856
this is probably because they're testing on X570/X670E
AMD chipsets kinda suck and the high-end ones do use more power (15 W on X570, 2x 7W on X670E)
their old results looked different

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I have a question because I don't know shit about building pcs and no I'm not reading your wiki.
I don't really play videos games outside of racing simulations (which are very cpu demanding) and I haven't upgraded my pc in about a decade so I'll admit its finally reached the end of its life cycle. I currently have an i7 4970k/GTX 970 setup but I'm struggling to maintain consistent fps in high car fields so I'm half assuming my cpu might be the bottleneck. What should I be looking for in a cpu exactly? The 4970k has 4ghz clock speed but anything I see over 4ghz is insanely expensive and I've heard that there's basically diminishing returns the further past 4Ghz you go with regards to power draw and instructions per clock cycle whatever. What should I be looking for if I want the best bang for buck workload processor?

>>102757885
The argument was about the 14900K vs the 7800X3D's idle power draw.
I accept your concession.

>>102757076
I wouldn't dream of making my PC looks like that because I'm not gay, but why do you care? It's a very unattractive trait to get mad at people for decorating their PC case. Practise a little stoicism and you'll be much happier.

>>102757925
i'm not trying to argue with you, i'm sharing knowledge
buy B650 if you care about idle power draw more than I/O

>>102757906
at the moment the 4790K is very outdated.
A 2 year old i3 is a good bit faster.
https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-intel_core_i7_4790k-vs-intel_core_i3_12100f

basically anything you buy would be an upgrade, what is your budget?
Also it might not be your cpu that is the bottleneck, the fact it is during a high car fields could be the ram or vram.

>>102757946
TechPowerUp fairly compared high-end AMD boards to high-end Intel equivalents, and all figures were retested as well.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-9-9950x/5.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i7-12700k-alder-lake-12th-gen/4.html

There is no favoritism going on, check the board BIOS versions on the test systems. All updated.
Imagine whining about chipset power draw. Pathetic.

>>102757978
>TechPowerUp fairly compared high-end AMD boards to high-end Intel equivalents
yeah and high-end AMD boards use more power than high-end intel boards because the chipsets are amateur shit made by asmedia
literally just look at the spec sheet

>>102757906
>ghz
Can't compare GHz to GHz because of IPC

>>102757971
So is clock speed not that important compared to say, the architecture of the chipset? Most of the games I play are almost all over a decade old so they run on minimal threads/cores whatever so IDK what would have a bigger impact on processing power. I'm not trying to break the bank so $200 is my ceiling
>Also it might not be your cpu that is the bottleneck, the fact it is during a high car fields could be the ram or vram.
Ram and cpu definitely both spike in iracing during the pace laps but cpu is still idling pretty high once the field spreads out and has intermittent stutters when the weight is being shifted around mid corner irregardless of sim

>>102757999
There's more than just chipset power draw difference going on, dumbass.
Both TPU idle charts are using different X570 boards (ASUS Crosshair VII Dark Hero vs MSI MSI MPG X570 Gaming Plus), their test PC got other upgrades like a different NVMe drive & PSU.

>>102758012
What is that? A lobbying body?

>>102757711
go ahead. its just not the optimal cpu for the use case.

>>102757942
based surface level stoicism enjoyer

>>102758031
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bBkjCd

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>got a 4080 super
>manual tells me to use 3 seperate connectors and not to use pigtail plugs
>corsair 850w only comes with the pig tail plug
What do? Am I supposed to just use what came in the box for the PSU or do I need to order more plugs?

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>>102758096
return it and get a 7900XTX

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>>102758096
Deleted the less up-to-date information.
Just use three separate cables, because Corsair's not going to cover your ass if you use pigtails for these connections.

Which one is better, 7700X vs 7800X3D but the 7700 is half the price of the 7800?

>>102758238
If you're planning to own the system for a relatively long time, the 7800X3D.
Wouldn't pay scalped prices for it though.

>>102758087
I'll build off this thank you king, it does say the motherboard is incompatible but they both list LGA1700 so maybe the site is just retarded

>>102757802
>9900KS - 58W
I loved that little nigger like you wouldn't believe

>>102758281
its just because the 14100F was released after the motherboard so the bios version might not be current. LGA1700 needs the latest bios version anyway.
good luck.

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Need your thoughts on my build, Mid Budget Europoor 1.2k - 2.0k FIRST 1440p gaming PC, used given thread info and a couple of questions
-when buying AMD gpu brands like Sapphire, is the price diff (from pure to nitro+ version) worth it just for cooler/fan quality/noise alone?
-if going for budget, will the £245(150%+) price increase for 7800X3D from 7600X be worth its performance increase for normal 1440p gaming even if I wait for a possible price drop after 9800X3D?
-im deciding to buy a more expensive case (Lancool III) simply because of the triple dust filter option it has. Will the slight sacrifice of airflow for dust mitigation be worth it in your experience?

>>102758096
If you can afford a 4080, you can afford a new 1000W PSU

>>102758096
you can use cables with pigtail connectors as long as its 3 seperate cables being used to power the card
you could get away with using 2 cables (so one of the cables youd plug both the main connector and pigtail connector) but then it can cause instability issues due to insufficient power or if something fucks up youre up a creek sans paddle

>>102758342
pretty much every sapphire model for radeon this generation is good so get the cheapest
dont waste money on an x3d chip for 1440p gayming
the airflow difference will be minimal to nonexistent

>>102758342
buy 7600 non X or 7700 non X

"NVIDIA just briefed us with new RTX 5000 info. Supposedly, they are indeed planning to launch in 2025 now, and they're also warning that they're conssidering the following prices:"

>$1,999-$2,499 for the RTX 5090 32GB (emphasis on the higher number)
>$1,199-$1,499 for the RTX 5080 16GB
>$599-$699 for the RTX 5070 12GB

"Also one slide compared the 5070 to the 4070 Ti in raster, but with slightly better ray tracing. Oh, and I must stress that their plans have changed multiple times this year, and it would not surprise me if things changed again or if this is just them gauging reactions to these price points. But as of today, this is what they are telling their partners, and we think it's BAD."

OH NO NO NO

>>102758426
ill pay 2-2.5k for a 5090 if the performance warrants it. not for gayming of course

>>102758426
so 699 for the 5070, 1499 for the 5080 and 2499 for the 5090

>>102758450
for anime tiddies, got it.

>>102758467
a small price to pay

>>102758426
>that huge gap
>no replacement at 4080S-tier
just doesn't seem right

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>>102757638
Anyone help please. I just want to know if anything is going to be fucked up.

>>102758426
>$3000 street price for the 600W furnace
>$2000 street price for a 16GB GPU in 2024
>xx70 being compared to xx70 gen over gen unlike xx80 ti/flagship
>delaying to 2025 because amd has no plans to launch anything this year
Holy shit. Expected from NVIDIA at this point, but still. Holy shit, compared to where we were just a few short years back.

>>102758501
a few short years ago it cost 3k for a 3090ti
do you have alzheimers?

>>102758426
This reads like MLID FUD
It's also retarded because the 4070 Super is already nearly 4070 Ti performance and it's below $600

>>102758489
looks okay, I would consider going with the 7900X and upgrade to the 9950X3D early next year

>>102757638
>>102758489
How much productivity vs gaming is the time split?
I'd consider going up to 48 or 64GB RAM if you're working with huge 3D models and very high res video footage (4K+ and high-bit colour depth)

>>102758426
Good. Fuck poorfags gamers
If it runs 30% faster, it costing 20% more still improves it's value

>>102758514
2017 was a few short years ago.

>>102758517
>thinking NV wants to do anything other than memoryhole the 4070 Super
Lol, that only existed to kill off RDOA3 cards value proposition. Now that AMD is gone, they have not to worry about that.

>>102758514
that was during a period of high demand due to ethereum niggers

>>102758560
>stockholm syndrome rationalization
NVIDIA GPUs are cheaply build chinkshit anyway lmao.

>>102758521
>>102758524
Thanks guys, productivity is what takes up more time. I don't work with videos at 4k but I do usually have a lot of models open at once so I think I'll get more ram just in case. 2x32 is better than 4x16 right?

>>102758617
Yes, 2 DIMMs is better for speed and stability than 4 DIMMs

>>102758486
It is just right, it is a decoy product strategy.

>>102758426
I think I should just save my 10 grand and buy a car or spare car parts & tyres instead. Maybe put it to some home care or medical bills.

Fucking $3000 for a GeForce toy.

>>102758590
>a company raising prices is akin to holding one prisoner
its a luxury hobby
you poorfags have no perspective

>>102758643
bro theyre literally killing gamers with these high prices
if only amd would swoop down and save us like in those superhero movies

>>102758640
i spend at least 20k a year on my track car on consumables/event costs/maintenance alone. you really dont want to go down the motorsports route if you think pc gayming is an expensive hobby.

>>102758643
What the fuck are you talking about?
>lUxUrY
LMAO, you don't put GeForce and Luxury in the same sentence. If it was a luxury hobby you wouldn't have the dogshit quality and reliability of the 4090s for example.

Fucking christ, it is you fools who have no perspective. This is not fucking quality you're paying for. Have you seen how they build these products? At least most of the time when you go for automotive parts the costs still make sense for what you get, but here even for business cases wih these GPUs people still skip generations.

>>102758660
>SAVE US AMD BY PRICING YOUR HIGH END CARDS CHEAP ENOUGH SO I CAN BUY NVIDIA
you get what you deserve

>>102758689
you might want to look up the definition of luxury hobby before flying into another one of your tirades

>>102758643
that just means even someone selling you a bag of shit can be branded as a luxury

>>102758689
>automotive parts the costs still make sense for what you get
kek now i know youre larping
the automotive enthusiast scene is littered with tons of chinkoid shit that crumbles as soon as you even go above vacuum let alone hitting boost

>>102758710
AMD sells gpus.
Nvidia sells solutions to problems you didn't know you had.

>>102758713
amd sells worse solutions to those same problems
thats the crux of it

>>102758701
>comparing a piece of sand on a piece of plastic to collecting cars, yachts, mountaineering, motorsport, sky diving, etc
You also don't have the perspective on where NVIDIA has changed the customer base to. They no longer want anyone except those idiots buying AI cards thinking they'll get rich quick as their primary source of income.

>>102758727
>thinking
bro... its reality

would you need an anti-static strap if you build on a table ABOVE CARPET or can you do the ol' molest the psu every 2 mins method?

>>102758718
you're right, 40fps in RT is unseen before performance but 35fps in RT is basically unplayable.
now, I have a bridge you might want to buy... it path traces.

>>102758711
>his cunt doesn't manufacture shit domestically

>>102758730
ive more than made my money back on the 4090 selling ai slop to gooners
its a sad state of affairs

>>102758735
im very conservative and just buy the same oem stuff ive been using for nearly 20ish years.
i want reliability when im fanging it on the track at 250+km/hr in what is essentially a metal box with wheels.

>>102758711
>automotive enthusiast scene
I don't think this was ever mentioned, whatever that is.

>>102758756
who else buys non-essential parts for their car?

>>102758748
>hr in what is essentially a metal box with wheela
Which also becomes a bomb on wheels when you factor in the fuel cell.

>>102758699
>SAVE US AMD BY PRICING YOUR HIGH END CARDS CHEAP ENOUGH SO I CAN BUY NVIDIA
Yes. That is their only purpose because they cannot into CUDA/RT.

>>102758643
Ah yes, the famed luxury build quality and featureset of NVIDIA desktop GPU solutions.

>>102758731
>can you do the ol' molest the psu every 2 mins method?
do it more often than that. Like every time you move your feet/chair/the machine, etc. If someone knew nothing about PC building and saw you working on one, they should think you were an OCD autist about touching metal things. Also make sure the thing you touch is hooked to electrical ground, your case isn't if the PSU is unplugged. That goes for a static strap, too, btw.

>>102758790
>>102758701

>>102758778
You're a pretentious fag. Amd going out of business and Nvidia being the only vendor is the result you deserve for only buying geforce.
tl;dr fuck poorfags

>>102758727
>put piece of metal on piece of rubber
>call it a hobby

amd wouldnt be dying if they just made a card thats faster and more stable than nvidia in every aspect while under all conditions

>>102758837
I didn't see you all rushing out to buy the 6950XT

>>102758837
That's literally what rdna2 was but you had to fall for the RT meme

Anything I should do before installing a new mobo?

>>102758859
>>102758849
it wasnt better in all aspects (rt)
i dont care if you think its not needed, retards will see that nvidia has more points in some graph and conclude that they are the one to buy

>>102758873
install mobo standoff screws

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>>102758849
it wasnt even the fastest bro

ARROW LAKE CORE ULTRA LAUNCH TODAY

POOZEN5 BTFO

>>102758900
Can't wait to buy the ultra 9 -2.85%k

>>102758900
I will wait until the 5000 series launches and then build a PC around the 5090.
Whether that be Intel or AMD, its much of a muchness.

>>102758426
>5070 announcement in January while AMD is still twiddling their thumbs regarding RDNA4 just so they can try to salvage the previous gen
At this point I'm not even expecting the top RDNA4 to beat the 7900XT if there is this little enthusiasm about it.

>>102758900
OMG GAYYMD BTFOOOOOO LOL USE PROMO CODE POOZEN

redpill me on mousepads. should I get one with wrist support?

>>102758817
>semantics
KYS

>>102758964
no. if anything its worse for your wrist. just do some of the wrist exercises you see online every few hours.
if youre truly worried about your wrists or cbf doing exercises, get an ergonomic mouse like the mx vertical

>>102758989
definitions mean something anon. otherwise its just chaos

I ran the numbers and I would estimate that the situation might be much worse than most fear, even adding 23-25% tax onto the $2500 price tag still comes out around $3100. Add in retailer markup and you could be paying as much as $3500 for the 5090 in the street.

Imagine the profit margins compared to the 4090. They already make well over a grand on each sale.

This is why the 5070 performance and price will be the way it is, and why both the 70 and 80 will have gimped VRAM. They want to funnel as many people into buying their most profitable product, it all seems logical to me.

>>102758873
put cpu (plus cooler if air cooler) and ram in it

>>102759012
You literally do not need to buy the top product

>>102759033
i expected it to get bad but somehow I never thought years back that we'd be paying Quadro prices for gimped GeForce cards, lol. Ths only check at this point are the attitudes of the partners and mindless consoomer zombies.

Time will tell if zoomies will be tapping into life savings or taking out loans to pay for these cards, or if people won't eat this one up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJ8aEO6ggOs
soon
is there an official link to intel's media event yet?

>>102759048
meant for >>102759012

>>102759060
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/newsroom/home.html

It will be posted here

>2010s
>buy this gpu its fast it can do 2160p it can do ml
>2020s
>buy this gpu its big and power hungry it needs a dozen layers of ai voodoo to run shit at 1080p 40 fps and can kinda do other stuff as well pls buy our dgx for the full package sir pls go fast men
>no refunds for failures btw
comedy

just dont buy the card if it costs too much
why are people making a big deal about this?

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>>102759070

>>102759082
how well is your wndows xp gtx 750 ti system holding up?

>>102759107
Runs oblivion just fine thanks.

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>>102759107
not bad

How much do I have to pay NVIDIA to implement hardware accelerated ray tracing into Minecraft (Java Edition)?

>>102759082
It's tied to the updooting cycle

>>102759118
>assrock
>seagate

>>102759196
>muh brand loyalty
ok bro

>>102759196
Asrock are the only decent motherboard manufacturer at the moment

>RDNA delayed/cancelled/doa
>blackedwell delayed to 2025
>zen 5 doa
>arrow lake doa
Retailers on suicide watch.
Where were you when the silicon industry stole Christmas?

>>102759202
just have other hobbies

if i buy a monitor from america, will it work in australia if i get a transformer/adapter?

>>102759202
the software industry stole it decades ago

>>102759209
Should do. Some power bricks even have a full input range so only changing the cable would be necessary (check first ofc).
Why are you doing this btw? Surely the import duties will wipe out any savings.

>>102759202
this says a lot about our industrial society innit

blackwell more like blackhole because that's where all your money and time spent waiting is going

I want to build a computer with a 7800x3d and a 4080 super
what motherboard and RAM should I get, how the fuck do I decide between the trillions of variations
how do I decide which 4080 super to get
is a 1000watt power supply overkill I kind of want to future proof
I have no idea what case or cooler to get

>>102757062
>MOTHERBOARD
can anyone provide some examples of X670s at the price point the OP is talking about? any reason to favor a B650M-HDV/M2 over a B650 LiveMixer?

>>102759225
theres a specific model of monitor that hasnt been released in aus in over a year though its released in eu/us
its one of only a handful monitors with the specs i desire and the others are even rarer

>>102759253
>>102759118
i also got a nzxt c1200 psu, lancool 3 case, assassin 120 cooler fwiw
goes alright

>>102759253
>what motherboard
the biggest one you can afford
>RAM
the biggest one you can afford
>which 4080 super
the biggest one you can afford
>is a 1000watt power supply overkill
no, bigger would be even better
>what case
the biggest one you can afford
>cooler
the biggest one you can afford

>>102759265
Ah okay fair enough. If you import it from the EU the adapter brick should accept 230V as standard. Please exercise caution if it's one of those models with an internal power supply.

>>102759280
what do you mean biggest

>>102759281
yeah it definitely has the external brick and is available from the eu
cheers

>>102759253
>I want to build a computer with a 7800x3d and a 4080 super
>what motherboard and RAM should I get
Depends on what you want to use the thing for, for a start. We talking gaming, rendering, music production, what?

>>102759253
>Mobo
If you really want to optimize the build you'll have to dope it out. List all the IO you need (USB, SATA, M.2, audio, etc.) and reference that against spec sheets. You don't need a beefy VRM for a 7800X3D so don't worry about that.
For a basic gaming rig the usual reccs are the B650 HDV/M.2, PRO RS, and LiveMixer. Start there and go up if you need some specific feature like optical.
One thing to note is that AM5 boards almost all use a crappy WiFi chip. Better to buy a wired board and add your own AX200/AX210 card.

>RAM
Filter 6000-30-36-36 or 6000-30-38-38 @1.35V and sort by price ascending.

>Card
Depends on what's going for ~MSRP on the day. Currently the TUF looks like the best bet there. If you're going for a quiet rig then look for a benchmark roundup and buy the best one that fits in your budget.

>1kW PSU
Yeah kind of overkill but no harm in it if you have the cash.

>Case
Watch a recent GN case review and browse the top third of the noise normalized thermals chart until you find one you like the look of. If it fits all your stuff, buy it.
I'm fond of the Lancool 216, 4000D Airflow, and Meshify 2 because I demand proper front filtration but there's tonnes of good airflow cases these days.

>Cooler
PA120/PS120 if you're on a budget. D15 G2 or a big AIO if not.

>>102759253
>I want to build a computer with a 7800x3d and a 4080 super
Wait for CES if you can. 5000 series is supposedly getting announced
>what motherboard and RAM should I get, how the fuck do I decide between the trillions of variations
6000Mhz CL30 RAM
Pick motherboard based on your I/O needs
>how do I decide which 4080 super to get
Based on warranty and tennis
>is a 1000watt power supply overkill I kind of want to future proof
Future proofing PSUs is a meme. Hardware is getting more efficient. 7800x3d+4080S is 450W tops.
You only need >800w if you're a complete retard and overclock a 4090 and an Intel i9.
>I have no idea what case or cooler to get
Get a liquid freezer iii or a cheaper air cooler. Case is highly subjective.

>>102759307
I want a nice computer
I don't fucking know
I just figured that was good enough without selling my organs for the best components available

>>102759335
>tennis
??????

>>102759339
Yeah sure it's a good start but most of your questions hinge on your intended uses. Like you don't need a lot of RAM or a big flashy motherboard if you're just gaming. Equally, you /do/ want those things if you also edit video for your CoD clips channel.

Any good 2160p 240 Hz IPS monitors with emphasis on good colors/contrast/brightness? Something like the AOC 24G2ZE but with moar pixel density.

>>102759335
My 4080 Super plays tennis better than yours

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Hypothetical question - give me your realistic dream builds for PCs of the following eras:
>2007
>2001
>1997
By realistic, I mean something top-end but not burning money for the sake of it.

>>102759322
>If it fits all your stuff
Not him but how would you know

>>102759435
First thing would be to plug it into PCPP and see if it spits out any errors. Then you check cooler height and card length against the case tolerances plus the RAM height against the cooler. Finally, if you're buying a big Nvidia card, make sure there's adequate slack available for the 12VHPWR cable.

>>102759377
I'm an oldtroon and my 1997 PC had 2MB of RAM and was just about enough to play Gizmos & Gadgets at a cinematic 15FPS. Doubt today's zoomoids will have any idea what parts were available that far back.

>>102759377
sorry I am too zoomer to know what pc hardware was like in those dates

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AYYMDEAD CAN'T INTO AI TECHNOLO/g/Y

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I was thinking of getting an i5 12400 to replace my old i5 2500k along with new RAM and a mobo and still use my old reliable GTX 1060 for a few more years but I can't decide on what motherboard to get there's just too many

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Is this shit normal? This is exactly 5 minutes of Furmark with all fans at full blast. Temp limit is set to 85 but apparently this demonic software doesn't care.
>inb4 haha poorfag Pascal in 2k24

Need some advice, plan is to go with an AMD CPU. I regularly play some games (WoW, Warframe, Trackmania, CS...) that aren't too crazy demanding, and sometimes the occasional triple A . However, I also fuck around with video editing and Blender more and more. Do I go full X3D?

I just had a 200iq thought. Can I order a badass CPU, record myself unboxing it and have AI edit it to look like there's no chip inside the packaging? Holy fuck

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>>102759589
country?

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>>102759643
Australia

>>102759377
2007 would be like a Core 2 Duo E6600 overclocked to around 3GHz, cooled by an Arctic Freezer 7, on a P35 board, paired with 2x 2GB DDR2 800MHz, a 8800GT, 1TB SATA drive, DVD-RW drive, an overkill PSU for a potential SLI upgrade, say an Enermax Infiniti 720W in an aluminum Lian Li case.

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https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-ultra-200s-arrow-lake-s-desktop-processors-announced-lion-cove-skymont-xe-lpg-npu-and-lga-1851

INTEL WON

THANK YOU INTEL

POOOZEN5 BTFO

>>102759610
For AM5 unless you're on 1080@meme refresh rate you're better off with a normal chip.
>>102759635
You don't need AI to be a nigger.

>>102759652
here you go
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/X72PbL
you could save $32 by going Ryzen
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/3py4kJ

>>102758958
Why Poles and Asians can code games right while everybody else keeps fucking up?

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>>102759676
Gamers, we won...

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>>102759721
I forgot the Akarin picture

>>102759253
With RAM you want 6000mhz with 30-36-36 cl.

For mobo generally Gigabyte and ASRock are considered best.

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>>102759721
Cheers will have a look, but I was born an Intel man and I'll die an Intel man.

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>>102759741
fair enough just thought I'd give you the option

>>102759589
If you're building from scratch (does 2500 even have DDR4?) I'd go for a zen 4 build, solely because it'll make upgrading in the future easier
If you think you'll stay with the 12400 (or f) for another like 8-10 years however don't bother & go with that

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AYYMDEAD CAN'T INTO MEDIA ENGINES AND AV1 HARDWARE ENCODING

>>102759741
12400 is fine being the final homogeneous core cpu from intel
the newer stuff has cuck cores which i implore you to avoid at all cost

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>>102759748
Would I be retarded for going for DDR5?

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RTXbros, anyone else having fun with upscaling?

>love my 10-bit color IPS panel
>pic very related

>>102759767
Yeah while I usually never pay attention to hardware movings and shakings I did hear about that. I'm only interested in 1080p video gaming so I can afford to buy a slightly older and safer processor.

>>102759676
so.. do i buy it? i have 10 year old CPU now

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>>102759771
well a 12400 doesn't really need DDR5, the 12900K and the 13th and 14th gen K-sku Intel processors benefit but thats a lot more money and they had the thing recently and it would probably be better going AM5 if you're going to go DDR5 but you said you didn't want to go AMD so yeah, I'd say just stick to the 12400 + DDR4

>>102759753
I feel like it'll be a long while before I upgrade again and when I do it'll just be a GPU. Hell I've been using my current i5 2500k system since 2012 and my GTX 1060 was added in 2016.

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>>102759811
ok tyvm

when's the review embargo for Arrow Lake ending?

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>>102759676
lets hope they got their monkeys to stop fornicating when they were supposed to be on the clock

>lets hope thats some real wizard AI based magic smoke management they came up with for this batch

>>102759835
probably no more than 24 hours before it goes on sale

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>>102759827
np, I hope you enjoy.
you do have an SSD right?

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>>102759741
I think you need to get bullied for your bad choices
>>102759734
that's cool and all but 7800x3d beats both
>>102759610
Depends how many frames you're looking to get
Most likely the normal one will be fine for quite a while unless you want to push 240 or above
On the flipside, people are saying that WoW benefits more from the 3D cache than other games

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>>102759852
not so fast AMDrone

>>102759851
Yeah but I was going to buy a new M.2 to put in this upgrade. I'll be shuffling the old CPU, mobo, RAM and sata SSD into a spare case I have lying around.

>>102759871
ah fair enough

>>102759860
that's cool and all but 7800x3d beats both
https://youtu.be/PT_WQpBRDRI?t=762

>>102759860
>content creation
>just some synthetic tests

>>102759660
Thanks anon. I've been tempted to put together an '07 build at least because that's when my family got its first "modern" PC, which I think was an E6300 with a 7800 GT, 320GB HDD, and 4GB RAM. I miss those days.

>>102759860
285k vs 7800x3d is a repeat of 12900k vs 5800x3d

I am not sure if I should build an AM4 build with something like the r5 3600 and rx6600 or go for AM4 and an r5 8600g. Obviously the former will be a lot more powerful for gaming but the latter won't only be like 50$ less expensive but more importantly will leave me with a very modern system. One that I can technically upgrade by just buying a GPU card later on.
What will you say is better value for money between the two?

>>102759946
*go for AM5

Should I go with AMD or Intel since the chip has been fixed?

>>102759978
Qualcomm

>>102759978
You can choose between an arrowlake cpu >>102759676 or outdated trash

>>102759048
They hiked the shit out of Quadro prices too, 24GB A5500 is like 6300 dollars.

>>102759946
I'd go 8600g, it's slightly worse than a 7600 which is plenty for a lot of years to come
Then just find some money & slap in a 6650xt or 7600 down the line

Soo... is Arrow Lake Copilot+ compatible?
Not that i'd gonna use it anyways, but it should be expected from new releases.

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>>102760050
mmmmm dual A5500s

>i have the weirdest boner right now

>>102760087
nope

this prime day was the absolute worst for pc parts

>packing up monitor so I can leave it at the retailer for aoc to look at it
>not sure if the hdmi cable i have in front of me is the original from this monitor if its from another monitor
FUCK
anything I can do?

>>102760050
https://www.amazon.com/PNY-Professional-Graphics-DisplayPort-13659239000/dp/B09WDTY3ZK

$2,299.99

Why do you even lie on the Internet, faggot?

The only cards that cost $6000 is the flagship 6000 series

>>102760144
>rtx5500 ampere
thats not the rtx5000 ada

>>102760174
You yourself stated A5500 instead of 5000 Ada

https://store.nvidia.com/en-us/nvidia-rtx/products/nvidia-rtx-5000-ada-generation/

$4000

You still got exposed for lying on the Internet, get fucked faggot

>>102759676
Given, that there is no HT, this looks "acceptable"?
Pretty much no gains over previous gen, rather less power usage just like latest AMDs

>>102760196
>Not being able to tell apart current gen from last gen without being spoonfed
Skill issue

>>102760144
>Being a dual-slot card, the NVIDIA RTX A5500 draws power from 1x 8-pin power connector, with power draw rated at 230 W maximum.
HOW THE FUCK
It's the same chip as the 3090 isn't it with barely less cores?

>>102759945
>12900k vs 5800x3d
so which one won?

>>102760208
RTX workstation cards are clocked much lower to stay within the 230W TDP

>>102760208
power draw increases by the square of voltage in semiconductors anon
just cap it to 0.8v instead of 1v and it will draw 36% less power

>>102760222
Techpowerup says the performance is supposedly not much less than the 3090, whatever that means in their metric

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>>102759676
>no performance uplift
>no Xe2
>single gen socket on an overpriced chipset with no new features except for maybe support for memory that doesn't even exist yet
>grotesque latency regression due to glued together chiplets destroyed the one good thing Intel had
>only cope is better cuck cores
d-o-a

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>>102760221
AMD won

So do I wait 2 weeks for Arrowdozer or do I buy a 5950X on AM4?

>>102760325
AMD might announce 9000X3D today, wait a little more.

>>102760325
>AM4
Just get that. Arrowlake isnt for poorfags

>>102760279
And yet people will still buy them. Just look at this very general where some people insist on Intel even after the degradation fiasco.

With a big cooler like the Phantom Spirit, does it make sense to install fans on the top side of the case if there's space left?

>>102760279
>grotesque latency regression due to glued together chiplets destroyed the one good thing Intel had
thats been ongoing for a while now. every cpu after the 10900k has been an incremental regression in latency

>>102760364
A single rear exhaust fan is usually sufficient unless you've got like 600W to dissipate. If you have a spare fan go ahead and test it but don't bother otherwise (assuming your temps are within normal range).

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>>102760364
i did

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>>102757062
Help im retarded and I didn't check to see if my motherboard had RGB headers. Do I get an RGB controller? Will it be compatible with my cheap ass system? I have a Gigabyte B550M K, Raidmax (ARGB or RGB) fans (I got a raidmax case) and an antec atom b550 psu.

>>102760335
I have 128GB of RAM fagget, I'm only limited by the platform.

>>102758501
>600W FUD again
same thing was said about the 4090 and it was fake

>>102760467
its not FUD, its false flag to get you talking about it

>>102760432
You were spared from the RGB menace, anon
you're safe

>>102760498
retards believe it unquestioningly even though it’s fake every time, the 3090 was “leaked” at 800w

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>>102760438
nice isn't it? turn off memory compression for that little extra boost.

>you be nice to the ramlets now

>>102757062
Ayo why the fuck is the 7800x3d 100€ overpriced now on all sites?

>>102760560
>overpriced
People are still buying it so it definitionally isn't.

>>102760560
9700x waitfags are buying it in droves after zen5 turned out to be poo and intel 13/14th gen owners with degraded cpus also joined the bandwagon

>>102760579
>>102760592
Damn, the thing was 330€ all summer ffs
Guess I’ll go back to waitfagging

>>102760605
if rumors are true about the 9800x3d, you can get one next month for what the 7800x3d is currently selling for.

>>102760500
But how I plug fans in with no rgb header on a cheap small motherboard...

What is the main bottleneck for After Effects? It doesn't seem like it benefits greatly from VRAM. Is it really mostly SSD speed and RAM?

>>102760639
The bottleneck is the pajeets in charge of coding it

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>embargo until 8AM pst
4 more hours to go

>>102760741
>>102760741
>>102760741