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>Saves the GPU market in your path

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>>102750100
POV: You didn't install your NVME driver

shitty AMD OP

>>102750113
in battlemage we trust

>>102750113
Image files aren't going to save the GPU hardware market.
Battlemage dGPU isn't out yet because it sucks.
We don't even have any information regarding its core configuration or the die size.
The RTX 5070 might be released sooner than that paperweight.

>>102750138
that's clearly an nvidia gpu

AMD shills are out in full force today

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Thank you intel. cheap 3nm for everyone

poomd stinky brown shill thread

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GpYDrv

I just slapped a bunch of shit together, thawts? I’m thinking I might not need a GPU that pricey

>>102750156
>>GPU
>>1080p: RX 6700/6750 XT, RX 7700 XT
>>1440p: RX 7800 XT, RX 7900 GRE
>>4K: RX 7900 XT, RX 7900 XTX

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>>102750165
>>102750138
nvidia drivers suck worse than amd now lol

uh oh another shintel shill melty
drink water and stay safe king, maybe Nova Lake will save you

FUCK AMD

>>102750210
Delete this

>>102750210
is this the anti-meltdown protector?

>>102750210
>oof okay

Why does ASUS make so much ugly shit?

>>102750210
what fucking cringe shit did he put in there

>>102750277
And AMD

>>102750246
The design is meant to be loud to stand out.
ASUS wants their ROG hardware to be instantly recognizable when a streamer or pro gamer uses them.

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>>102750210

>>102750323
Surely they could make it look less retarded though
Why does a motherboard need a pride parade happening on it

>>102750335
>Muh SneedVGA build quality

>>102750246
The problem isn't ASUS, the problem is millennial parents don't beat their kids enough.

>>102750210
Average Radeon experience

>>102750338
It's targeted towards teenagers and YAs, and ROG's been relevant for nearly 20 years.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/10126/anandtech-round-table-with-asus-10-years-of-republic-of-gamers
I wish ASUS made a separate, toned-down, label for (X)OC.
Doesn't have to be cheaper...

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>>102748890
9900X is already cheaper than what 7800X3D was in stock but performs significantly better and more efficiently. And if you're going with 7800X3D as a gaming chip, chances are you'll be gaming at 1440p or more anyway, which means you're entering a GPU bottleneck territory instead. I built my PC recently with a 7800X3D and I would've 100% gone with 9900X if AMD marketing didn't completely fuck up the whole thing. Like seriously, delayed AND released at €530? Fucking AyyMD.

>>102750374
the annoying thing is ASUS's cards seem like the best at least when it comes to temps and noise but they look so awful and the "gaymer" shit is just cringe
I miss EVGA

>>102750210
SARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
FUCKING DELETE THIS
NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

Dual socket hot-swappable motherboard so I can change between my gamer CPU and my productivity CPU on the fly when?

AMD is leaving money on the table if they charge $450 ASP for the 9800X3D.

Why do videocardz comments section people come out of nowhere in these threads like a discord raid

Ignoring the obvious capacity difference is there any benefit for an AMD based system to use the 24gb ram sticks over 32gb ones? From my quick research the price difference isn't enormous and the 24gb sticks tend to have worse timings.

>>102750417
people want new cards

>>102750411
Never.

>>102750179
Nta but Indians love amd. And I recognise you. You always say that nvidia drivers suck at any criticism of amd for some reason. Odd behaviour anon.

>>102750438
nvidia drivers literally suck on linux and are worse on windows now. you must be delusional.

>>102750419
BZ says 24Gb Hynix A-die tightens better on some (important) secondaries so maybe good if you're a tuner type. For general XMP use they might as well be identical outside of the obvious price/capacity difference.

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>>102750417
Because we've had a shitty GPU market for 2 generations now and they're delaying on the third one. We're cynical and moody.
Seriously, why are all these tech companies delaying their announcements so much lately?

>>102750415
>t. boughted a 7800x3D for over $500

>>102750100
>1080p: KOORUI 24E3, MSI G2412F, MSI MAG 256F, MSI G244PF E2
>1440p: ASRock PG27QFT2A, Dell G2724D
Are these still good monitor choices? I'm focused on 1440p or 1080p with 144hz and HDR.
Upgrading from an 12 year old 1080p monitor so almost anything is an upgrade.

>>102750531
>1440p or 1080p with 144hz and HDR
OLED or AOC Q27G3XMN (miniLED VA) for entry-level HDR.
https://tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/aoc-q27g3xmn

Battlemage will save us

X3D is a fucking scam. The non-X3D variants offer vastly superior performance outside gaming at similar price points and if you have money to spend on a X3D, it's likely you're running at 1440p/2160p, which also means your X3D means fuck all in a GPU-limited scenario.

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Igpu master race, where are you at?

>>102750447
Delusional of what exactly anon? Most people don't use Linux, nor do they have any reported driver issues.

Brehs, SF leadex vii platinum pro, bought it from 3 different websites and they are refunding the money, one of the bigger dealers, said he has one and he'll ship it in 4 days. WTF? Is it so hard to source?

>>102750438
>jeets love amd
Can confirm, just bought a 7900x.

>>102750616
Nobody asked.

>>102750616
its insane how easy amd shills brainwash people. they managed to convince a large swath of people to get 7800x3d + 4060 when they could've use the cpu money on a better gpu like upgrading 4060 to a 4070 super

>>102750616
>t. cpu pro

>>102750660
Jit

>>102750673
Depends where you live and for the most part super flower would rather be the OEM than sell direct.

It seems 4TB ssds have a higher price per TB than the 2TB ones, should I just be getting 2 in raid 0?

>>102750726
Apologies, I don't speak retard.

>>102750734
if you don't value your m.2 slots or data integrity sure

>>102750447
What's wrong with the nvidia drivers on linux? They seem to have improved lately, it used to look shit on the boot console.

>>102750734
>raid 0
Please tell me you are joking. You do know what raid zero does right?

>>102750772
I'm already out of m.2 slots so they'd be 2.5" drives.

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rdna4 doko?

>>102750698
I don't think anyone in /pcbg/ convinced kids to plan that kind of PC.
Maybe there are some aspiring pro gamers, but they're not going to make it with that attitude.

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>>102750100
What's the go-to for high cap storage nowadays? Is WD still the "standard" or are they all about the same reliability wise nowadays? I managed to fill up several 3+ tb drives (mostly vidya) and I need to reorganize my shit.

>>102750804
Yes, what's the problem? Like any sane person I keep multiple backups of important data, including off-site.

2025 Q1:
5090 512-bit 32GB GDDR7 28Gbps
5080 256-bit 16GB GDDR7 28Gbps
5070 192-bit 12GB GDDR7 28Gbps

2026 Q3:
5080Super 256-bit 24GB GDDR7 32Gbps
5070Super 192-bit 16GB GDDR7 32Gbps

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if I have two sticks of RAM I put them into A2 and B2 right

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>>102750698
Right. 9900X here (EU) is a few euros cheaper than the 7800X3D's in-stock pricing (more like €50 cheaper if you remove one store which aggressively undercuts the rest) yet performs significantly better and at similar TDP.

>>102750696
Get mogged, X3Dtard.

>>102750996
It's kinda funny that they even tell you where to put 4 if you have 4. There's only 4 fucking slots.

>>102750996
yes

>>102750900
So, is there anyone currently investigating whether there's an NVIDIA turncoat sabotaging AMD?

>>102750985
>2026 Q3
Will have to wait two years more to replace my 3060Ti then.

>>102750900
rdna4 is doa so amd have to refocus on rdna3

>>102750985
>5070Super 192-bit 16GB GDDR7 32Gbps
>192-bit 16GB
Retard.

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>DDR Wind blade
what in god's tarnation

>>102751171
>multi GPU support
What fucking year is this

>>102750985
3GB GDDR7 modules mean +50% so 12 becomes 18 GB

>>102750965
Check out Backblaze reports for reliability stats. They're all *reasonably* similar except for a few bad apples. Naturally your storage should be redundant so variations in AFR become a matter of cost/convenience instead of "chance of losing all your data this year".

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>>102751189
the year of AI

>>102751208
God I can't wait for A.I to pop like the dot com bubble did

What happened to Epic Games? Unreal Engines used to be performant, up to UE3 or so.
Is it the shift to building an engine for Hollywood & enterprise simulations?

>>102751171
I mean if you're running those speeds active cooling is a good idea

>>102751228
Lol no, it's not the same. This is like ice engine vs horses.

>>102751249
Its dei and you vill like it.

>>102751298
Keep telling yourself that, it won't stop you from jumping out a window like when dot com blew up

So are nvidia FE models actually good now?
I remember for a while they should be avoided due to shite cooling and noise.

>>102751322
yes and we all know how the internet became irrelevant afterwards

>>102751329
They can't risk delivering substandard cards now. They have to keep the stock price up.

>>102750734
Lexar NM790 is the only 4tb with good price. Still better to get two Patriot VP4300 Lite.

>>102750210
So what happened? The right angle connector was shit?

>>102751329
Yes 40 series FE models are some of the best built for nvidia to showcase, they don't make very many of them though

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>ZEN5%
>Core Ultra -2%
>5070 12gb

It's so fucking over...

>>102750469
It's not christmas yet so they waiting for the epic Q4 shareholder meeting.

>>102751406
smoke is coming from across the board so way too much current was delivered, nothing to do with the connector

>>102751047
Not gaming.

>>102751329
Only for higher end cards. Check the temperature and noise record for the 4070 Super FE.
They’ve been making progress though.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/galax-geforce-rtx-4070-super-ex/37.html

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>>102751430
VRAM is irrelevant

>mom i posted it again

Which motherboard manufacturers are reputable and could be trusted for my money?
Are MSI and gigabyte ok?

>>102751495
AsRock

>>102751368
The market just corrected to what the internet was actually worth at the time.
AI will have its correction, and much like the internet, it'll only become valuable once there is more than a few companies controlling the hardware.

Nvidia can't exist in it's current state in perpetuity much like Cisco couldn't.

>>102751495
Asus went to absolute shit, others are generally fine. MSI had some issues on am5 not sure if they fixed it.

>>102751555
Lol lmao. Any significant AI breakthroughs will be forever behind govt/mil doors. Enjoy your GPT wrappers forever.

>>102751495
follow-up question: Who handled best the whole Intel microcode update supply for 13-14th gens? Who were the ones fastest to fix etc

>>102751596
looked at the lga 1700 motherboards listed as top selling on newegg, first one from each manufacturer
mobo/date of 0x129 release/price
ASUS ROG STRIX Z790-H Gaming 2024/08/08 230
ASRock B660M PRO RS 2024/8/12 90
MSI Z790 GAMING PRO WIFI LGA 1700 2024/08/14 170
GIGABYTE B760M DS3H DDR4 ??? 110

checked multiple gigabyte boards and didn't see the 0x129 update listed

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I don't need a new pc, I need to get my shit together

Why cant nvidia just make better cards faster
are they stupid

>>102751596
Unironically ASUS, they have the best-funded team.
The engineer who started ElmorLabs was part of ASUS' motherboard/ROG group before he became independent.
ASUS also improved the warranty guidelines for their motherboard after the AM5 fiasco.

>>102751771
Asus may have been faster but they're shit.

Opinions on desktop PC speakers?
Want something decent without going into deranged audiophile territory.
Kali LP-UNF maybe?

>>102751171
Pretty cool

>>102751495
None of them can be trusted. The hardware industry is full of duplicity.

>>102750216
wolw

>>102751406
AMD gpus just do that

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Brandwhores have to be the lowest IQ monkeys in this general

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If AMD doesn't announce the X3D parts tomorrow I will commit an unlawful act.

>>102751047
9900X sucks at gaming. It lags behind 7800X3D and 9800X3D will humiliate it.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/ryzen-9-9900x-disappoints-in-gaming-first-benchmarks-show-gap-to-7800x3d/

AMD shills have to be the lowest IQ monkeys in this general

>>102752199
It's probably a 7900X or a 9900X owner trying to justify their purchase to nobodies.

I have an i7 4790 non-k. I've had a bug with my cpu where it locks to the base clock of like 3.5ghz when i wake up my pc from sleep so I manually set the all core frequency to the max all core turbo clock which is about 200mhz lower than the single core turbo clock. My question is am I losing performance by doing this, bug aside?

>>102751952
The cheap, and even relatively expensive, Logitech/Philips/Creative/etc. "PC speakers" usually suck. If you don't want to deal with separates then some studio monitors like you posted are a good bet. I'm not a fan of the late 90s styling but I suppose it's all about the sound at the end of the day.

>>102752279
Did you check whether there's a microcode/BIOS update for that bug?

>>102750965
WD and Toshiba seems have the lowest failure rate:
https://youtu.be/icNbexYV3M4
And best reliability/capacity/price rates specifially for WD:
https://youtu.be/QDyqNry_mDo

>just disable the ftpm
>just disable core isolation and vbs
>just update to the latest bios
>just enable memory context restore and disable sleep states
>just avoid driver timeouts by downclocking using adrenalin
one more tinker tranny tweak and intel + nvidia chuds are done for

>>102752279
You're losing 200MHz so yeah. Then again if you were doing something demanding with it you would have upgraded by now so it's probably fine.

>>102751058
Never heard of "for the sake of completeness"?

>>102752384
>>102751058
And some people might assume that 4 dimms can't be installed at all if you don't show it.

>>102752419
Those are the types of people that need to be told coffee is hot and shouldn't be allowed to vote.

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I'm going to be mostly gaming, should I get this bundle or buy a Ryzen 7 7800X3D

>>102752647
Get this bruv.

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>>102752647
Theres also one that is identical to this but with a b650-e tuf cpu instead of the pictured one. That bundle is 50 usd cheaper

>>102752647
>mostly gaming
>7950x3d
read a review ffs

>>102752647
If you're okay with the scheduling thing then $50 for an extra 8 cores and a high-end board is a great deal. Unfortunately it's only even viable because the 7800X3D is sold out everywhere.

>>102752675
Stay away from gay-sus. It's cheaper for a reason.

>>102752684
I'm aware the 7950x3d is geared towards production over gaming but notice how people are entertaining the thought of it regardless?

>>102752668
>>102752734
>>102752764
you guys think >>102752647 , is still better value while mostly gaming? I have 7800x3D in stock near me.

https://chipsandcheese.com/p/lunar-lakes-igpu-debut-of-intels

INTEL WON

THANK YOU INTEL

do we know what time Incels press conference is?

>>102752819
It's a better deal because the second one is a bad deal. If you can get a 7800X3D for $350 just buy that and pair it with a solid <$150 B650 board.

I'm building a desktop for the 2nd time in 7 or so years and i'm coming off a laptop. I have been undervolting my laptop for a while because I've been told it increases performance and lowers temps (which is a big deal for laptops)

CPU is gonna be a Ryzen 7 7800x3d with a heatsink fan. Should I be undervolting again or just letting it do its thing? Last CPU was an Intel i7 coffee lake.

>>102752819
I'd get 7950x3d every single time.

>>102752935
Bruh, on desktop even 6 to 8 years old, you will not want for performance. Destop mid-range and above has always been a beast.

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Why is everyone advised to buy OLED monitors? I have 4080 and 7800x3d, and the oled monitor is too expensive for me, it will cost more than 4080.
The oled monitor also has a service life of about 2 years (in my experience with phones)

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>>102752877
best I can do is this which pushes me towards the 7950x3d
>>102752943
What makes you say that?

>>102753005
Its a better chip with lots of cache. Better bins. Its just good. Pinnacle of human engineering.

>>102751945
>but they're shit.
I'm sure they'll be fine, otherwise the fat american bully them again.

>>102753005
>best I can do is this which pushes me towards the 7950x3d
Yeah that's what I'm saying. It's not so much that the 7950X3D is better for you but that the 7800X3D is so overpriced that you might as well spring for it. That is assuming you're okay with running Xbox Game Bar or Process Lasso.
I suppose a more realistic alternative would be to buy a 7600/X now and upgrade to a next gen X3D chip in a year or two.

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>>102750179
No they don't

>>102753063
Doesn't change the fact I got fucked over twice by them. They don't get a second chance.

>>102753070
Yeah thats sensible advice but I've been putting it off for too long as is. While I'm content to sit on my 6750xt for another year I've grown tired of my 3900xt.

>>102753005
set prefer frequency in bios and use process lasso. if you aren't comfortable with this get a 7800x3d or wait for the 9800x3d

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is AOC 25G3ZM good for $120 in europe? (europe might not have as many deals as USA)
24.5", VA, 1080p, 240hz, 3000:1 static contrast ratio, freesync premium
my graphics are proper HDMI 2.1 so i'll be able to drive it at 240hz for general desktop use
the contrast ratio/black levels of my NEC EA231WMi is one of my main gripes with it, hence why i want next gen OLED, but 3000:1 from the AOC seems real nice
the color is wide gamut but i figure i can get close enough to sRGB with calibration (the optic AMOLED on my oneplus 5 with lineageOS, set to sRGB mode and using manual calibration to reduce the green channel slightly, looks really dope and i could use that for reference)
or do you think there will be banding issues from reducing the color space with calibration? it's 8 bit + FRC
https://forum.pcmonitors.info/topic/aoc-25g3zm-mini-review-impressions-motion-performance/
https://forums.blurbusters.com/viewtopic.php?t=11849
https://www.trustedreviews.com/reviews/aoc-gaming-25g3zmbk

no gaming, i'm using this old NEC EA231WMi which doesn't have the quickest pixel response anyway

9800X3D when?

I need advice, in my country a brand new 1660 super costs 268.01 in USD and a brand new RTX 3050 costs 281.67 in USD.both are 6gb vram which should I buy? also AMD graphics equivalent of these are not available in my country.
here are the exact models I am eyeing for more info:https://www.gpu-monkey.com/en/compare_gpu-asus_tuf_gaming_geforce_gtx_1660_super_oc-vs-gigabyte_geforce_rtx_3050_6gb_windforce_oc

It's an odd paradox, /g/ usually hate the bigger corp who's doing anti-consumer things, but they suck Nvidia's dick.
Then again, the choice is either sucking nvidia's dick or slobbering on AMD's asshole while they are taking a shit.

I know which one i'd pick.

>>102753440
>in my country
Not my problem pablo.

>>102753440
Obviously 3050 for DLSS

>>102753440
as shown the 1660 super outperforms it, the only thing that would push in the direction of the 3050 is dlss support

>>102753440
>a brand new 1660 super costs 268.01 in USD
bruh?
what country do you live in & can you really not import from any actual countries?

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>>102753440
The 3050, friend. If you can get the 8gb model, that will be significantly better than both of them.

Is there even something after EUV or is this the unironic end of semiconductor tech tree and we have to wait for chinks to invent optoelectronic magic crystal computers.?

>>102753458
The real option is to not be a corporate slave shilling for free & just buy the best product for the price
in low end that's AMD + AMD or intel + AMD, in high end that's nvidia + AMD
>b-but I can only support one corporation
kys

Just got my 7900GRE hellhound in the mail and it's up n running now. First thing I noticed is how quiet it is compared to a 3080. It makes no noise in furmark while the last GPU was howling.

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>>102753946
Harsh, but true. I always recommend amd at the low end and nvidia at the high end. I believe it's the younger generation participating in these arguments. I remember doing the same thing when I was young. I'm assuming the phenomenon of being a "fan" most likely occurs from a weak sense of self and wanting to associate with a group.

>>102753946
>>102754092
High end Nvidia isn't even an option for me because they suck on Linux. Windows normies eat so much shit so it's expected.

>>102754092
think it stems more from the need to be "correct"
If you buy a 4060 you don't want to hear that it's the wrong choice and you feel forced to defend it by claiming it's the right choice

>>102753478
>>102753512
I am conflicted
>>102753931
unfortunately, no
>>102753939
8gb costs even more, I am limited to 6gb for both

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/s96HVW

Thoughts?

>>102754171
>NHD15
you likely don't need it
>psu
I don't know if that model is good, check cultists
Looks good other than that
If you live close to microcenter get the 7600x3d bundle

I have an old motherboard ASUS B85M-G that has a 2pin ATX12V but my PSU has a 4pin CPU one, can I use part of it to connect it to the motherboard?

>>102750389
Your problem is giving a fuck what your PC parts look like.

>>102754171
>midlife crisis build staples like noctua, overpriced premium SSD and seasonic titanium
>poorfag GPU and mobo
getting mixed signals here

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>>102754158
Well, I still suggest the 3050 regardless. Numbers don't make up the whole story and while the 1660 super appears stronger on paper, in the modern landscape of poorly optimised ue5 slop and baked in RT, the 3050 performs better. I recommend checking some benchmarks of newer titles if you're conflicted. Other than gaming, the 3050 also comes with a larger feature set.

>>102753308
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihNqHxhSRrQ
gamma looks really good in sRGB mode at 6 minutes in the video, much better than NEC EA231WMi

Tomorrow AMD saves PC gaming.
Trust the plan and Dr. Su.

>>102753940
High-NA EUV is the next tier followed by Hyper-NA EUV but hyper is where economic feasibility is questioned

>>102754281
That's exactly what I was looking for, thanks.
I just need to get a feel for "power levels". I'm a rookie at this.

>SN580
>SN770
arent those almost identical performance-wise? i have sn770 and i wanted to get sn580 as my second drive

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>>102754171
This will achieve the same results at a much lower cost. I'm actually impressed how you manage to get a 4070s build to 2500+ but it's very wasteful.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sXP4Xk

Read through the last few threads and saw some similar scenarios, but if i kept my am4 pc for another 4-5 years would it make sense to move from my 5600x to a 5700x3d? Gaming at 1440/144, seems like i won't see too much of an improvement with my current gpu until i upgrade that in a couple years. tldr will the 3d vcache provide longevity at 1440

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>>102754541
That depends entirely on your GPU anon. Is your GPU able to render more frames than your current CPU can process? Then yes. If not, then no. Can't say anything until I know what you have and what you plan to upgrade to.

>>102750438
>indians love AMD
https://www.reddit.com/r/IndianGaming/comments/1f4jh13/what_gpu_does_everyone_use_over_here/?sort=confidence
You sure?

>>102754503
it's close enough to cope with if it's cheaper. most people don't *need* max speed

>>102750628
Here. I regret throwing my still perfectly useable 1060. Didnt expect blackwell and rdna4 to be delayed this much.

>>102754541
I would say hold on to the 5600X until new platforms arrive unless you mostly play some game that likes the 3D cache

Worth waiting for the 5k series before I build a new PC?

>>102754158
Another option is looking for a used 2060 or 2060 Super. Better performance than the 1660 Super and still has DLSS

>>102754626
holy fucking skiddy
>you filthy plebian don't need max speed unlike me rich and PROSUMER gigatechwizard
they quite literally perform withing margin of error

>>102754651
At this point, probably. Don't expect great value though.

>>102750100
whats the ideal antialiasing settings on 3080ti for 1080p 27"?
I see jagged lines at times so I think that's the resolution not covering the monitor dimensions since 24" is the ideal for 1080p

also I have fps dips on MW2 (2009) with backported MW3 map when a very simple fog texture in on screen which is really weird
dips are 165 (165hz monitor) to 120 but it feels like it's dipping to 20 as far as choppiness is felt

>>102754606
I'm sure. The global market share heavily skews towards nvidia gpus, so it's no surprise that there are going to be alot of nvidia users. That doesn't mean that the market for amd gpus in India isn't larger, when compared globally. A single reddit thread isn't a good indicator of the market but even in the thread you presented, there's a large number of users with amd cards despite amd cards making up less than 12% of the gpu market globally.

>>102754651
always worth being a waitfag
never worth being a waitfag

>>102754511
Thank you anime, I will check it and see what pieces I can find in Iceland.

>>102754752
>3080ti
>1080p

>>102754752
>I have fps dips on MW2 (2009)

>>102754752
>3080ti for 1080p
ssaa

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>>102754784
Haven't you heard? Even a 4090 is a 1080p card thanks to the generosity of modern developers and their optimisations!

>>102754834
no good game has this issue

>>102754834
um actually if you upscale from 540p & use heavy frame generation, you can get peak framerates of 60fps with just a 4070 super!

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>>102752199
Barely any difference once you go up to 2k/4k for most games like I said.

>>102752258
Nah, I actually have the 7800X3D anon.

>>102754590
Have a 6800xt. No clue what I'd upgrade to lel, guessing something better from the rtx 6000 or rx 10000 series.

>>102754409
Honestly if AMD and Intel can take a respectable 20-40% of the market between them things would be a lot healthier.
I don't specifically like AMD or Intel, but silly as it is the feeling of contributing to an unhealthy monopoly puts me off going nvidia, even if I should get the best, logically speaking.

>>102752199
do you really play fortnite at 1080p? you pay a decent amount of money for an X3D that will be obsolete in a couple of years and in non gaming applications you give up a lot of performance in cinebench etc

>>102755002
At that point you'd need to upgrade your platform anon.. Might as well run your current CPU into the ground and then do a platform upgrade then.

>>102750469
Fucking A+.
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-to-launch-radeon-rx-7650-gre-at-ces-2025
>Launching a NEW RDNA3 card
>In 20 FUCKING 25
Either RDNA 4 must be worse than we could have imagined, or AMD messed up wafer allocation of RDNA3 dies so badly that they're never getting rid of a secret glut of RX 6000 Cards before 2030 to make newer architectures sell. Those are the only answers I can't think make sense.

>>102755094
Maybe you're right and i should stop being a cheap ass, for reference i used my 2500k pc from 2012 to 2021

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>>102754809
I looked online & found profileInspector
it can enable both supersampling & multisampling but control panel can only enable either

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1324954688

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>>102754752
>I think that's the resolution not covering the monitor dimensions
Kind of what's happening. It's the monitor's native resolution that's the biggest problem, but the render resolution is also a problem. You can use DSR (if you render at 4K) or DLDSR (if you render at 1440p or some other non integer resolution). DLDSR is slightly more expensive than DSR. The best option is probably to render at 4K (with DLSS if need be). DLSS Quality, Balanced, or even Performance will all be better than native 1080p; otherwise a custom DLSS input targeting 4K might be good if you need to go lower than 1080p and want to tweak, or you can try targeting a standard DLDSR resolution like 1440p and using DLDSR with a lower DLSS input resolution (like 1440p Balanced, which will render sub-1080p, which you might need to do for newer games)

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>Arrow Lake will most definitely be trash

There goes my hope for a CPU that doesnt draw like 50w on idle. Any chance AMD will fix it on its 9800x3d? All I want is a CPU thats efficient if used only lightly. Most games I play dont really need x3d CPUs anyway, thats why I was hoping for Arrow Lake to turn the tables. But I wont touch Intels Gen14 trash and ironically enough AMDs Zen5 CPUs are less efficient than x3d too.

>>102755367
Just undervolt.

Is the nvidia shill around? Am I safe with 12gb vram 5070 if I can just dlss everything that it doesnt have the vram buffer for?

>>102755496
Buy a 7900GRE

>>102753440
RX6600

>>102755496
>if I can just dlss everything that it doesnt have the vram buffer for?
you didn't even mention the performance you're looking to get from it
As a general impression, the 4070 super seems like the best one to get if you can spend the little bit extra

>>102755122
It's to sell the shittiest navi 32 dies as a more performant 7600 in China.
GRE models were never intended to be sold in the west.

>>102755496
>I need to be marketed at!!

>>102755122
I mean didn't nvidia pull this weird shit with the GTX 1650, 1650 Super, 1660, 1660 Super, 1660 Ti and GTX 1630
what the fuck were THEY thinking?

>>102755601
>>102755648
The 7900gre red devil is $630. Hellhound $605. 4070 super would be around $700 for the cheapest models. Is blackwell/rdna4 not worth the wait?

>>102755727
>it's bad when amd does it

>>102755740
see >>102754764
when the next GPUs come out, it'll be worth waiting for the next GPUs by the other company, and by that point we'll be close to new models and when those come out we'll be close to the next generation
There's always "something better" on the horizon
do you need it now or not?

>>102755367
Get a discounted 13/14th Gen, update the BIOS with the latest microcode patch, and move on. AMD & Intel can't design desktop chips anymore.

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>>102755496
You're going to be using DLSS for everything anyway with a 5070. I think there will be some instances in which the 12 GB buffer requires some optimization, but you'll be optimizing games anyway if you want to the best perf:fidelity ratio anyway. There won't be any games you simply can't run over the lifetime of a card with that tier of performance.

>>102755601
>>102755623
The Radeontard rears his misshapen head

>>102755740
Buy the hellhound it will carry you for years

>>102755780
Buying a 3050 over a 6600 is retarded

>>102755367
Get the 12700KF for under $180 and the Strix E Z690 board for under $250 ($500 orig MSRP).
That chip can idle under 5W after undervolted.
I have a 12700K and I can post sensor reading later (dinner time).

>>102755356
DSR options arent available app specific for some reason, only globally
thought I'd enable for older games

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>>102755780
Look bro, AMD won, it's okay, you don't have to keep fighting battles you can't win. Not every post is a post you have to shill nvidia at

>>102755774
They can, we're just starting to reach a point where it gets harder to actually improve without going crazy with P1/P2 limits. Doesn't help that CPUs don't matter for games anyway in a time where higher resolutions are used more and more so it's more GPU bound. Why bother with desktop chips anymore. There is a reason both of their laptop lineups made huge jumps while their desktop line stagnated.

AMD deserves a swift death

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>>102754171
Try this. Included compatibility and quality checks.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gWCxh3

>>102755780
Why is there such a large disparity between Ti Super and 4080S?

>>102755893
Why PA over PS? The ARGB version is 1$ more and assuming identical performance with the non RGB one, a straight upgrade. Just turn the fagcolors off if you're straight
Has zotac gotten better? IIRC they were one of the worst GPU makers back in the day

>>102750100
Nzxt is so based. I dropped my PC and shattered it, they sent me a new side in the mail absolutely free of charge, zero shipping on my end. They were super friendly about it too. It was totally my fault and they just sent me a new side panel.

>>102755921
They cut the L2 cache on the tiS

>>102755861
Who said anything about games (at least in the conventional sense)? I'd like to see more movement on lightly threaded apps like photoshop, Audio (DAW) editing, file compression, and emulation. Rendering and video encoding workload progress frankly doesn't impress me because both companies can always just throw more cores at those problems, but pointedly haven't increased core counts at equivalent prices in the desktop in ages (the 13700 to 14700 being the lone exception) and Intel is even go backward by getting rid of hyperthreading (what happened to the rumored Rental Units?)

9800X3D fucking when?! So I can buy a 7800X3D at sane prices

>>102755921
The best possible AD103 chip vs. cut down variant.
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-ad103.g1012

>>102755826
I dont really want to go that far back in gens, Its still supposed to be a rather modern build as I plan to use it for as long as it survives, so more power is always better for some peace of mind in rare cases where more demanding games release that I actually do want to play (like Monster Hunter Wilds). Thats why I was waiting for Arrow Lake and 9800x3d (or its predecessor if prices go down again). But thanks for the tip anyway. 5w is impressive.

>>102755927
You're correct, but more importantly because it features an extra heatpipe and is overall the slightly superior cooler. I just didn't pay much attention to it, so feel free to pick that one instead.
Also Zotac is an OK card. You can choose to spend extra money on vendors more to your liking, but I wouldn't advice it.

>>102755952
That's nice Anon, I'm always happy to hear about hardware companies standing by their products for end users even as an act of goodwill. When my Thermaltake PSU went out (I think it was lightning that hit the building) 3-4 years into the 5-year warranty at the time (they'd upped theirs to 10-YR standard now), I called them up gave them the serial # and invoice # when I ordered at Amazon and they free cross-shipped out a replacement while I sent in the fried one with a CC security deposit that was lifted after they received the said cooked one. Still going strong now/

>>102750210
remove this antisemitic content now !

>>102755740
7900 XT is going for $620 (neither are worth getting).

>>102755893
>>102755927
avoid RGB fans

>>102756044
they're absolutely worth getting but its obvious that AMD are going to price the 8800XT at $600 or they would have cut the 7900XT further

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>>102755835
also DL option is greyed out

if 50 series cards actually have dlss4 texture compression i will sell my 4090

>>102756121
There won't be any CPU fast enough to not bottleneck the 5080 or 5090 anyway

>>102756057
No shitposting, does the argb phantom spirit actually perform worse than the non RGB version? I assumed the RGB was in the sides and this shouldn't affect performance

>>102756023
I had a Thermaltake TR2 PSU and like a year into use it blew up, zero hassle to get it returned, but the replacement blew up 5 min into use.

>>102756210
The only instance where I heard the CFM of a rgb fan being lower than the non argb one were the fans included in a particular case.

>>102756186
>revolutionary
They've had the same PCIe layout for 3-4 years now

>>102756172
5080 is a 16gb 4090, the 7800X3D already doesn't bottleneck the 4090
the 9800X3D will probably bottleneck on the 5090, it'll be interesting if the 9950X3D with the dual X3D CCDs helps.

>>102756210
There are 4 Phantom Spirits in the wild besides the Phantom Spirit EVO:
https://www.thermalright.com/product/phantom-spirit-120/
https://www.thermalright.com/product/phantom-spirit-120-se-black/
https://www.thermalright.com/product/phantom-spirit-120-se/
https://www.thermalright.com/product/phantom-spirit-120-se-argb/
Apart from the the 3 SE variants (including the ARGB one) being slightly worse than the non-SE version they are identical in spec just with cosmetic changes.

>>102751255
>obese long haired man said!!!!
kek don't care

So, will GDDR7 PCIe 5.0 have fuckall advantage over 4.0?

>>102756385
it will have fuckall advantage over the gddr5x gen3.0 1080ti

>>102752976
They're not, there's non OLED monitors in the OP

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>>102751189
They also Sell a 4070tis that is more or less explicitly designed for this purpose as shown. I was still running dual GPU for compute purposes, not gaming.

>>102756350
>obese
Steve really makes your marketing department seethe huh.

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>>102755835
You enable globally (just select them, don't make them your desktop resolution), and then those resolutions will become available in game.

>>102756116
The DL options are up top, numbnuts. Once you select a DL version, the plain DSR version will be greyed out.

>>102755808
>>102755855
It's not the RX 6600 I necessarily have a problem with (depending on pricing), it's the Radeontard(s)

>>102755921
I don't think there is. The 4080 Super is only 20% faster than the 4070 Ti Super in that benchmark

>>102755835
>>102756460 (me)
Also you'll need to make sure the game is running in exclusive fullscreen mode

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>>102755990
Get a 7700X or 9700X then, the efficiency of your PSU matters more at low/idle power draw anyway.
ATX 3.x PSUs passed the +60% efficiency @10W or 2% of the max-rated capacity requirement.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-9-9950x/21.html

13700K and 14700K are fine with the new BIOS, but they aren't better gaming CPUs than even the non-X3D Ryzen chips.
The factory-fused V/F tables for these chips are not going to request dangerously high voltages.
https://skatterbencher.com/2024/01/20/skatterbencher-68-intel-core-i7-14700k-overclocked-to-6200-mhz/

why is AMD the only company with an active dedicated cope subreddit (/r/AyyMD)

foreskin captha fucking when

>>102756561
amd fans are extremely fragile.

yes i will be using my 12700k with a 5090
no there is nothing you can do about it

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>>102756670
Based

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sarrrr

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>>102756677
i know ur jelly of my 97 sp score 12700k and my godlike ram bro

>>102756670
I will use the 8800xt with my 10900k and it will be great

>>102750100
>MOTHERBOARD
>ASRock B650M-HDV/M2, B650 LiveMixer, cheap X670
why a "cheap" X670, specifically? any models in particular that are worth the extra money?

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i think it's actually the end of intel fellas
textbook hubris

>>102756589
what causes this phenomenon?

>Arrowlake is cheaper than raptorlake refresh
wtf how did they do it?

>>102756778
it's worse performance lol if it cost more intel would actually be a laughing stock

imagine my shock when i realized that intel 12th gen is still the best price/performance 4 years later

>>102756789
alderlake only been around for 3 years and when it launch 11th gen has much better value specifically 11400f

>>102756781
Also Z890 board prices will be obscene at launch. They have to compensate somehow until B860 boards are released.

I believe in intel arrow lake. fuck the amd doomposters

>>102756829
dude even the intel shills are trying to soften the blow of this dumpster fire
i waited for all this foveros bullshit from intel and in the end they fucked us
i don't even want to use an amd cpu but there's literally nothing else to upgrade to

I just bought a B650 motherboard because the Arrow Lake leaks look disappointing for gaming
Waiting for 7800X3D to be discounted again or just getting a 9800X3D once BIOSes are updated to support it

The more interesting thing is they are intentionally only showing intel default spec benchmark results. Would extreme profiles cause the same issues that 13th and 14th gen cpus are having?

>>102756837
we will see about it tomorrow

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WzJLWt
I had this list sitting in my tab for a while and I need help since I don't remember why I picked these and I'm not sure what I'm really doing.
Also do you guys have any recommendations for monitors? I'm looking for a 1440p one but I know even less about monitors

>>102756837
Intel should have released arrow lake on 1700

>>102756172
Who buys such cards to play in resolutions where this is even relevant?

>>102756896
4k 240hz oleds exist son
a 4090 can not do that even with dlss ultra performance in the newest games

So can you set the power limit to unlimited on the new intel CPUs? Will it degrade the CPU like 13th/14th gen?

what do you guys think?
first time using water cooling loop, hopefully will be less toasty. Also first time NOT using noctua fans in a build because wanted it same brand as cooling loop.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9PwBQP
monitor: https://www.viewsonic.com/in/products/lcd/XG2405

the monitor and kb+mouse (sorry not listed) from last build. given some time i will probably add some more storage drives. also made pcpartlist awhile back just saving up the $$$ now, just noticed the PSU is no longer available :'(

>>102756913
don't cheap out on your monitor retard

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>>102750100
pls r8 my gaming box. trying to future proof on a budget

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>>102756877
there's no ddr4 and intel changed clock interval and many other changes. i don't its' possible to put it on lga1700

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>>102756703
Looks like yours is performing similarly to Skatterbencher's sample.
https://skatterbencher.com/2021/11/25/skatterbencher-31-intel-core-i7-12700k-overclocked-to-5400-mhz/

I'm not watercooling my chip so I didn't bother seriously OCing it.
This is my TimeSpy run, I didn't push the CPU voltages too hard.
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/45429921

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>>102756770
It's literally over before it even began, literally.
No memes, no biases, 100% facts.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJGFmX1TLEs

>>102756827
Z890 Board prices will crater over time, there's no guarantee the next desktop chips (Nova Lake?) will be on this platform.
Only anti-AMD consumers or the usual XOCs will build an Arrow Lake PC.
Arrow Lake makes Zen 5 look okay by comparison.

what would happen if I mix corsair vengeance 32gb 6000mhz CL30-36-36-76 with a corsair vengeance 32gb 6000mhz CL36-36-36-76?

>>102756922
i prefer pixel density over pixel count when 4K or 1440p around 24-26" i consider buying one

So what's intel going to do with Intel 4 now that arrowlake will replace meteorlake? I hope they'll use it to make bartlett lake.

>>102756903
No CPU will bottleneck cards of this or next gen at 4k. I got a 4090 and my cpu almost idles at 4k. But who plays in 1080p with a 4090 or even 5090 so that his cpu might bottleneck it.

>>102757000
Best case it will sync with the slower timings.
Worst case, it's not going to run at all because that combination's almost certainly mixing Hynix & Samsung/Micron DDR5 chips.
It might all just run at basic bitch JEDEC specs, not guaranteed because the spec doesn't require different memory chip vendor's ICs to work together.

>>102757001
there are plenty 27" 4k monitors

>>102757012
You dont even need to talk about 1080p. I play at 3440x1440 and the 4090 easily gets cpu bottlenecked in some games

>>102756936
the funny thing is i'm not watercooling my 12700k either anon, i'm using an nh-d15 and my temps are still insano mode

>>102757011
That would be smart, so it's not going to happen.

>>102750100
sex with ruri

>>102757022
ok i lied it has to be 24"

>>102757056
just say Ur poor nigga

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>>102757032
I got the same cooler, this is what happened when I forced MSI's Enhanced Turbo (Multicore Enhancement) on.
Either my board or my chip's memory controller is too mediocre to stabilize higher speeds.
It undervolts okay so I'm satisfied.

>>102757062
>>102757062
>>102757062

>>102757058
i am poor since i recently had ~$4K in electronics and around ~$200K in btc taken from me :'(

>>102757083
my condolences. what happened?

>>102757090
fucko squad and thats all i am saying

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>>102757083
Please don't tell me you're the 4090 frogposter...

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>>102756837
Just keep waiting® for even better components.

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>>102757195
>Waiting® for good games to come out

>>102757101
i dont know what that means. you got robbed?

>>102757268
in a way, but i will get back in 10 years

>got a 4080 super
>manual tells me to use 3 seperate connectors and not to use pigtail plugs
>corsair 850w only comes with the pig tail plug
What do? Am I supposed to just use what came in the box for the PSU or do I need to order more plugs?

>>102758028
post in the other thread

>>102753458
Nvidia became a second Apple and /g/ is long time full of redditors.