How to request advice:>Budget>Intended use (media, source, environment)>Frequency response preference and music examples>Past gear and your thoughts on themFAQ:>Where do I buy IEMs?Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio>Shopping Guide (IEMs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide>EQ Guide (Measurements, Targets, Equalizer, etc.):https://rentry.org/IEM-EQ-Guide>/iemg/ Proto-Blog/Wikihttps://rentry.org/iemgazette>Frequency Response Graph Toolsquig.link>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:• EPZ Q1 Pro / G10 (Harman) - $35• TRN Conch (bright V) - $35• Kefine Delci (bassy neutral) - $75• Simgot EA500LM (bright V) - $90>Bullet IEMs:• Final E500 (dark) - $25• Tanchjim One DSP (neutral) - $30• Etymotic ER2XR (neutral) - $100>Flathead Earbuds:• Blue Vido (warm) - $5• Faaeal Iris 2.0 (warm) - $10>USB-C DACs:• FiiO JA11 - $15• Fosi Audio DS2 (CS43131) - $57• Tanchjim Space - $90• Tempotec Sonata BHD Pro - $90• Qudelix 5K - $110>PMPs:• Shanling M0s - $100• Hifi Walker H2 / Surfans F20 (Rockbox) - $120• HiBy M300 - $200• Hidizs AP80 Pro-X - $200Previous thread: >>102811270
First for Nova
Weren't these shitters cheaper? Like $3?At 5 you might as well get gato sexo for a little more, and that's an actual competent iem
I rage bought these after my shitty Logitech headphones started digging into my skull. All 4 of my headphones (AKG K712 Pro, M50x, DT770, and Logitech G Pro X Wireless) have experienced hinge failure and I'm over wrapping them in tape so I'd rather avoid headphones altogether from now on. Did I buy snake oil? Also, can anyone recommend a device to remotely control the volume, specifically with a knob? My motherboard doesn't produce any Static so I dont think a DAC is necessary.
>>102840064not really the best choices. first off, you'll probably have a hard time shoving those ear tips (on the skinny side) onto that nozzle (on the thicker side), so bad pairing there. the dusk has known noise issues and glitches when using the included usb-c cable, so that part of it is particularly trash. as far as a volume knob, i know this product exists>https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804723512876.htmldunno how well it or their chink app functions overall, check if it's on amazon
>>102840178Hmm, I can still cancel. Any other recommendations? I'll probably buy that volume adjustment device. Thanks. I honestly just asked ChatGPT what I should buy and went with whatever it said.
>>102840264>Hmm, I can still cancel. Any other recommendations?No it's fine. You ordered from Amazon so returns are easy anyways. Try the stuff out, gain first-hand experience. You'll get feedback about whether or not this size of IEM shell fits you, whether or not you like the stock sound, etc.
>>102840064>Also, can anyone recommend a device to remotely control the volume, specifically with a knob?something like that? idk the ETA but it should be very soonhttps://fosiaudio.com/pages/fosi-audio-vol20-bluetooth-multimedia-volume-control-knob
>>102839611Is there anything that screams “I am a massive flaming faggot” more than Harman tranny tuck lower mids?
>>102839675the cheapest ive seen them go for is around $4, the gato $10quite the price difference for poorfaggotrons
>>102839675Gato DD and looks are shit.
>>102840408The tuck adds techs and separation and gives a narrow but deep soundstage. You do enjoy it deep don't you anon?
>>102840585Thirdies really have to hem and haw over half a big mac. Honestly just reroll, you got shit rng maybe you'll get a better country next time.
Name of the IEMs?
>>102841749random ~$15 pos from amazon
Why qdc pos is named Anole? It's an anagram of "alone". If you buy their pos, you won't find anyone with the same pos to feel the sense of camaraderie and enjoy your pos together. You won't fit in in a world filled with Moondrops, Truthears, KZ, even Mangirths, ThieAudios, 64 Audios and so on. You'll stick out as that alien who has pos no one knows about. You can always cope with it by calling yourself the sonic renegade and the techs king, but no one will take that seriously. You'll be alone, just you and your qdc pos.
>>102841749doubt they even qualify as IEMs, probably just standard canal earphones you can find in any supermarket
>>102842477'anole is actually jakspeak for canole which is a misspelling of canola, in other words qdc is selling you seed oilsthe bigger problem is they're unvented BA pos
>>102842506>oilsof the snake kind?
>>102842524no seed oils are worse
Sirs, what are your predictions about Truthear Pure? Mine are as follows:>better compliance with the new meta JM-1 with room curve>smoother treble with Hexa's little imperfections ironed out completely>LCP driver similar to the Hexa, but this time properly separated from the mids BA with the crossover and packing more punch and texture to the bass>newer Bellsings = better techs, approaching the Simgot EA500LM levels of techs, not quite reaching it but close>maybe a bit smaller nozzle diameter, since they went that way with Zero Blue 2>price stays at around $80
>>102842646BA pos, avoid.
>>102842654sneed, I like the rattle-in-a-metal-tin sound of the BAs, it gives me euphonic distortion which means techs
>>102842674Techs don't exist below $1000, even if the drivers are the same.
>>102842646even more muddy than the hexa, same shit comfort, probably better aesthetics
>>102842646Substantially worse than the cadenza 4
>>102842687they don't exist at all
>>102842864Why are you so poor.
>>102842874You can get the best in-ear monitors for just 1200 phillipinoy pagpags, sir.
I'm looking to buy a portable amp for use with my handheld gaming/ emulation device. The device can't satisfactorily run my Beyerdynamic dt880s (32 ohm). I know they're overheads but I thought I might get better advice about portable amps in this thread. I'm looking for the cheapest/ best bang for buck decent portable amp that will run them well.>BudgetLess than 75 USD preferably>Intended use (media, source, environment)Portable gaming device with 3.5mm jack and USB C port>Frequency response preference and music examplesNeutral for gaming
>>102842994Update: I found a low use fiio e12 mont blanc for ~40 usd second hand, is there anything better in that price range?
>>102839675you got cucked by regional pricing. its literally $1 for SEAchads.
>>102842994If you're a peon: tanchjim space or some povertydongleIf you're a baller: tanchjim luna waifu edition
You don't need more.
>>102843452Garbage.
>>102843452now that's the real Man Girth
>>102843463My Mangirth Xenns Top arrives this week, let's see if it's better than my kz's and my zero red >>102843461Arguments?
>>102843452let me gas...you need less?
>>102843501Cringecle superb tuning in the Zero Red mogs
>>102843477Cringe collab, avoid.
My KZ moggs my arya stealth unironically
>kzigger became a tripniggerWell easier to filter i guess
>>102843662I will continue to shill KZ and there's nothing you can do
>>102843541Why did you cum in them?
>>102843865it helps with techs
>>10284151940% chance to roll jeet or chang, 20% africa or arab, best is to not reroll.
I bough KZ EDC PRO. Did I fuck up? I did zero research and bought it because I saw someone say tgey were good in earlier threads
I have the cadenza 4, where can I go from here?
>>102843925Outside.
>>102843452this but kefine delci
>>102843904why...>>102843925eq guide
Thread OSThttps://youtu.be/KFeUBOJgaLU
>>102843541Is that a BA in the nozzle?
>>102844280is it that bad?
>>102843904actually bought it lmao
>>102843925You can only go up
Well, turns out, the EW200 right driver lost all this volume today (just right now), getting only ~10% of the volume on the right side, almost totally quiet.Is this the condensation issue I'm reading left and right? If so, wtf.I really need to repair the EX90 cables...
>>102844506my fucking sides man
>>102843904Nothing wrong for $5. Actually prefer it over waner, ew200, zero 2.
Imagine getting baited to buying any iem other than wan'er or chu 2 under $50
epzchads?
>>102843452This statement but *Thieaudio prestige LTD* https://youtu.be/7mUpFmjc3eM?si=RSHwUEsexb0CvhF1
>>102844896A man literally doesn't need more
My dunu s&s has arrive and i love it, it fits me well, no comfort issue
I got my Westone Mach 70s yesterday in the mail. The sound's well-rounded, kind of like the signature Peenon offers: Rich mid bass, veiled treble. It sounds lovely, but It's a subtle upgrade to my EPZ G10s. Thankfully channel balance is near perfect, but my unit measures with less treble than VSG's, with mine dropping around 14khz.
>>102839675>gato sexo>that's an actual competent iemLol no it's not, it's mediocre.
>>102844636I paid uhhhh 20 bucks for these (shipping included) because I needed something fast (amazon)
>>102842812What makes you think Hexa is muddy? I listened to my old Arias after getting Hexas and the Arias sounded so fucking dark that I can't stand them anymore.
Anyone still rocking any RevoNext? Like QT2, QT2s or QT5? There were some other models too but they were a rather rare pokemon here.>>102843904They're not "good" as in "mogs other iems" but "good" as in "okay for $5 but if can spend more then buy something else"Either way it shouldn't be something you'll regret. It's not gonna make your ears bleed, of course unless they changed something after the release again.
>>102845528>>102845543Ok, paying $20 for these MAY actually be something you could possibly regret.
>>102843904Best 5$ POS, they're a testament to how far we've come in chink audio science
>>102845528Should have gotten something else for that price
>EDChads Pro spitting facts and helping people to avoid OP's outdated bright pos reccs
>>102845543>>102845528They're still comparable with other $20 pos. Those who said otherwise are haters that didn't own it.
ABing with Snoys for last hour. I will pass, too aggressive with BA and fucked EQ. I 1:1 custom with their knowles preset and they sound nothing alike. And you can mod existing presets.
>>102845632*you can't mod existing presets
>>102845608>They're still comparable with other $20 pos. Those who said otherwise are haters that didn't own it.No they're not, come on. I have them, I also have ones like OG 7Hz Zero, I have Gate, I have Chu II. At $20 they're mogged even by other KZs like Castor or one of the popular ZSN variants. They're a good $5 purchase but that's it. Don't treat them as something they're not just because some reviewers that normally shit on KZ said they're ok.
>>102845682You're a total noob, making the classic rookie mistake of equating price with performance. The Chu 2 is a joke with major design flaws, Turdear Gate is ugly and the only redeeming feature is the cable. The 7Hz Zero’s Mcdonalds toy shell and comfort are also a joke. EDC Pro's stock tuning is already pretty good but if you EQ it then it can outperform anything that's the power of minimum phase pos
What are some quality ANC true wireless earbuds for 150-200 dollars? Might buy jabra elite 8 active gen2 or jlab epic lab edition. With jabras the case can be connected with usb to a pc for low latency connection and the jlab's come with a usb-c dongle with a similar function. Do chifi brands make good wireless earbuds?
>>102845832You're a rat that posts KZ graphs as if they mean anything.
>>102845832EDC Pro has the same comfort issues as the Zeros. Both of these shells are bulky for no good given reason.
is there any comparison pics of the edc pro with other pos?
>>102845886>Do chifi brands make good wireless earbuds?Not really>What are some quality ANC true wireless earbuds for 150-200 dollars?Depends on what you want. For top notch ANC, only the very top players (Sony, Apple, Bose, Samsung, and maybe Sennheiser) are excellent, while the rest are far behind. For latency, it varies from model to model and brand to brand, so you'll have to check for that in each case.For sound quality, chifi is pretty decent in that aspect, as are most brands.
i need some hand holdingi'm a fledging drummer and i wanted some advice on a monitor that could offer good isolation, or maybe even knowledge about iem designed for this rather specific scenarioor perhaps over ear headphones are more suited to this use case? bottom line is balance, i guess. something that can effectively "lower the volume" around you without choking specific frequencies too much
>>102845886I hope you like elevated highs. T. >>102845632 who's packing them for return. I haven't even tried the dongle.
>>102846023Mid tier ANC isn't an issue if the sound quality, battery life and connection is good. Good fit alone is like 50% of the equation when it comes to background noise. From what I can tell the jabras and the jlab's have at least a decent anc but it's not their main selling point. Are there any issues with these models/brands that I should look out for? The ratings seem good with these. Thanks
>>102846087Can it be fixed with an eq? Is there a ton of sibilance?
>>102846135>Good fit alone is like 50% of the equation when it comes to background noiseYes but most of these ANC earbuds that aren't the top ones are noticeably weaker and less effective, which might be a point to consider if you're using these in loud environments. Check scarbir.com for more info, but in general battery life and connection is hard to gauge.Jabras are mid tier, nothing crazy but solid and one of the bigger players in the market. Sound quality is dependent on the model, but the ones you're looking at are tuned decently well.Jlab is definitely more budget oriented, but I don't know about their sound quality. Should be aiming for something HarmanIE-like, maybe with a bit more bass
>>102846148To exaggerate - it sounds like presets use BA and custom eq cuts it off. At least when you keep higher frequencies around default levels. Which is fucking scam because ad I mentioned before - matching your custom graph to what preset shows doesn't sound the same. At this price point I would expect better application.
>>102845981Yeah they're just fucking empty inside, but I guess KZ just doesn't have any smaller molds anymore
>>102846232Seems like a useful site. Probably will be getting the jabras but going to look for reviews on that site just in case. >>102846291Most of the reviews of those jlabs were just unheplful glazing, dodged a bullet here. Thanks
>>102845981Midget ears anon.. Both of those are on the smaller side.
>>102846359If you can try them/return and get them cheap, why not. They just require extra work. I also wathed Gamesky review and he was like "turn knowles and they shine", I turned knowles and I was like "are you fucking joking? Is this something for deaf pricks?". They have potential I would consider them at least on XM5 level from technical standpoint, just with shittier software options. Also take into consideration I prefer smoother tunings.
>>102846080>effectively "lower the volume" around you without choking specific frequencies too muchYou would probably be just looking for ear plugs then (etymotic tends to perform the best). Adding a monitor in the middle probably makes the problem too hard so nobody tries.>over ear headphones are more suited to this use case?Not really. You probably want some IEMs anyway just so they don't restrict your movement. Unless these are just for studio recording.>i'm a fledging drummerDon't most musicians play the received audio over their monitors so amount of isolation matters more than quality?There's lots for you to chose from and no right answer>triple flange etymotics for maximum isolation>small nozzles and shell like Shure for maximum comfort and slightly deeper fit>some decent FOTM>aftermarket tips, foam or single/double flange tipsA good start would be to see what other drummers use and maybe someone here could rec something similar based on your priorities
>>102846001there is zero need. it's the exact same shell kz has used for years: cca cra, edx (and all it's revisions), etc. pisspoor $1-tier plastic shell with a bunch of wasted space inside. btw gazettezo you can scrape pictures from MD Jacques youtube reviews. they take fairly consistent photos of iems at various angles.
>>102846080Along the lines of what anon says, either you keep it very basic and get some noise reducing ear plugs likehttps://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807448505319.htmlhttps://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807516300221.htmlhttps://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807394125543.htmland stick with those to protect your hearing from high decibels. Or, like a professional on-stage musician would use (varying levels of investment / equipment of course), you would need to buy a stage monitoring setup. This involves components that feed the recorded noise of your drums back into in-ear monitors (earphones). The IEM's purpose is to isolate other sounds and reduce sheer volume, and allow you to comfortably listen to the sound of your drums at your desired level. This is a bigger headache and investment.
>>102845886>Do chifi brands make good wireless earbuds?no one does>What are some quality ANC true wireless earbuds for 150-200 dollars?just get samdung FE, it's decent and decent is the highest you can get with twshit
>>102840064>Also, can anyone recommend a device to remotely control the volume, specifically with a knob? My motherboard doesn't produce any Static so I dont think a DAC is necessary.A keyboard with volume knob.A cheap dac.A cheap chink macro pad with a knob.I have all 3 and use the one in my keyboard because of its position.
>>102840064you do need a DAC, even a cheap dongle will be fine
Best waterproof wireless IEM for showing?
>>102847521>inb4 anon diesjust use some cheap portable BT speaker bruh
>>102847530How will it hurt me if it's over IP rating 7?
>>102847598it would be extremely painful
>>102847645you're a big guy
>>102847521there are no wireless IEMs
>>1028477114U
Epz pair arrived today. My ears hurt. Am i inserting it too deep? Shallow insert is ok, but i cannot seem to seal it properly without hurting on the sides. Smaller tips could fix the issue?
>>102847521S12 Prothe only iem that i know that has any ip ratingenjoy your tinnitus underwater nigger kek
>>102847929literally Let's Shower
>>102847898try tips, tilt / angle / rotate the iem different, etc.
>>102847929>S12 ProI said wireless, IEMs can be wireless as much as you want to cope and seethe wireless ear buds count
>>102847879>LOT OF LOYALTY FOR A HIRED SHILL
>>102847898Epzshit really needs to be removed from the op, they all fucking suck ass.
>>102846561>Don't most musicians play the received audio over their monitors so amount of isolation matters more than quality?yeah, the choking part was more because i got a couple pairs of cheap plugs and they really color the sound, but it's not really a deal breakerbut regardless, the idea was to get a monitor with good noise isolation mostly for practice use, playing with a track, studying and so on. if its isolation is poor, i'll have to blast the thing in order to compete with my drums, and now there are two sources raping my hearing abilitymaybe i should instead look after a good plug that any kz can accept and roll with it?
>>102847898use this fix
>>102848183>they all fucking suck assah yes, let's see your picture of all their models and all the other iems you own.waiting...
>>102848183Just because one guy doesn't know how to tip roll? That doesn't make any sense at all.
>>102848378I only own kz edc pro ;)>>102848423Every other day someone comes here to complain about their epzshit, it's actually fucked.
>>102848450>Every other day someone comes here to complain about their epzshit>one schizo shooting their epz>twelve other schizos with custom faceplates
>>102848183epz isn't even real. Everything they sell is just a carboncopy of some other pos.I'm actually amazed that they're getting away with it.
>>102848473It's like 2 deranged pedos lol
>>102848450Complaints like what? I haven't seen much of any lately.
>>102848577Open your eyes chang >>102848287
>>102848615What is the complaint here?
>>102848642there is always a link to the previous thread in the OP, use that to find the origin of the webmhope you enjoy your stay here newfriend
>>102848642Nigga bought the wrong model and wanted to shoot himself but missed.
>>102848037any pos + analog FM wireless adapter suitable for actual monitoring, but good luck waterproofing that
Chang vs Gweilo - who will you give your money to?
>>102848718Who ever is cheaper and gives me what I fucking want, I have no loyalty
I want to use my wired headphones wirelessly on my phone.Can anyone recommend a better alternative to the fiio btr15? >why not just use a usb c dongleMy phones port is fucked.
>>102848804btr13?
>>102848804Qudelix
>>102848804What do you mean by "Better"? You need more power? Quloos Mub1 or Topping G5You wanta better software? Qudelix 5KCheaper? Super thing, Hiby W3ii
any dedicated player recommendations? all the options i know of seem questionable, like fiio using old chips, walkman locking features, etc. what are people in the community using? certainly not OPs recs right?
>>102848845>>102848861>>102848889Ty.You're right I should have been more specific, I'll take a look at what's been recommended.
>>102848904ibasso DX180, Hiby if you want something cheaper.
should i get one of those newfangled bluetooth portable cassette players or should i just get a "restored" DD walkman and risk it actually having the center gear break in god knows how long?
>>102848663>D-do your own research, Chud!I'm just gonna take this as EPZ being so goated that even detractors can't think of simple reasons to hate it.
>>102849006you can cope about it however you want xister
JA11 users, is it really buggy or decent?
>>102848904For me it's the JP version of NW-a306 (and god forbid anyone from getting a non japanese one), open android 13 for PEQ with slightly newer hardware than the majority of DAPs, solid battery life and it weighs just 109g Although Hiby m300 is ever so slightly bigger at 130g with similar features while being like 60$ cheaper. Also both are made for normal people which means they don't have the balanced output tomfoolery but fuck you I am not carrying a brick bigger than my mobile phone around
>>102849021Noooo I can't believe I spent only $30 for a comfortable, custom faceplate iem how will I ever recover oh nooo
>>102849025>he thinks anyone actually owns that f**o slopit's one (1) retard shilling it from an obscure ASR thread where the "actual," rec is to get an even more obscure Jcally pos (with severe QC issues) and firmware flash it.just like anything you see obnoxiously shilled (without real user photos and proof of their non-retardation), it's a fucking retard peddling some shit they don't even own.
>>102849025not buggy, please redeem for custom sound modifications!
>>102849079>without real user photos and proof of their non-retardationnice try glowing nigger
>>102849073dogshit pos for dogfucker retardpottery
>Resorts to Ad homI win the debate
>debatesir this is 4chan, reddit is two blocks down
Is scarbir trustworthy?An awful lot of his reviews feature iems "donated" by the companies themselves.
>>102849265>Is scarbir trustworthy?no. it's just a general reference for names in the current market. the guy doesn't know shit about sound and is probably making shit up >80% of the time. just look out for any QC / UI / UX concerns mentioned (connection drops out, doesn't charge correctly, X feature doesn't work as advertised, etc.)
>>102849256Yeah, I'm not going back
>>102839675Alright you ped- I mean audiophiles. Are these any good? Specifically for use with a rockbox'd device and peq. Looking for a cheap ass iem to throw in my pocket during work
Help a bro out>Budgetup to 50>Intended use (media, source, environment)music, doesnt matter>Frequency response preference and music exampleslistenin only to electronic music. I need something with tight bass and with enough of it. I have zero 2 which lack bass. I'm not a huge basshead but that was too little. I also had moondrop starfields but those were too mellow
>>102849292Alright thanks.
>>102849311r u a pajeet with $5 rubles to spend from mommy's credit card? they're the brand for u
>>102849338meh i'd say you are in the basshead category if zero2 is still lacking bass. chifi doesn't care much for bassheads, or it crosses into v-shape as a whole. Juzear Clear or Letshuoer Soloist are ok picks for bassier sound, but they have their own niggles / flaws too. EQ is the best solution
>>102849338KZ castor black, think no more
>>102849311That ray of light is photoshopped
>>102849444he didn't ask for the most incredible distortion ever seen in an iem
>>102849486he didn't ask to blow his ears out too, ur chart is useless when you look at the SPL
>>102848955FiiO CP13 exists. I don't like buying used but people have differing opinions and experiences.
>>102842687mogged by etymodicks at $300
>>102848955>>102849615Modern cassette players are shit. No exceptions. That's because there's only one mechanism being manufactured today and it's not a good one. Enjoy your wow and flutter. Modern cassette players almost never have support for chrome or metal tapes, and usually don't have Dolby noise reduction either. These were pretty standard features back in the day if you didn't get a super cheapo model.Get an old Walkman that's had its belt replaced. That's the usual fault in most of them. Don't get ones that frequently have gears break.
>>102840292>you do need a DAC, even a cheap dongle will be fineWhy? Please explain why a DAC is necessary. I don't have any static from my plugging my headphones into my motherboard so whatever distortion there is, is totally inaudible.
>>102843452if you go on r/iems you'd think the only iems that exist are those and KZ castor
>>102849933If it ain't broke, don't fix it. But... Motherboards tend to have higher output impedance than 0 and if you have IEMs with a wonky impedance curve (2DDs, hybrids, etc...) that will change the frequency response of the IEM. For any modern cheap dongle, this won't be an issue.
>>102850057nta but is this really how shitty average mobos are? i was under the impression there is a kind of variable impedance to their output, possibly skewing these metrics / testing methodology? if the testing is all on the up-and-up though, lol, lmao even.
>>102850057Thanks for an actual response. Sorry for being a bit rude, but I'm primed to be on guard for almost all audio related equipment advice after dealing with it in the home theater space for the past five years. It's really difficult to find people to trust because half of the shit you find online is from snake oil salesmen.
>>102850236just don't forget to burn in your dac if you ever get one, just to even out the output impedance since it can be unequal in certain frequency ranges
>>102850267>burn inblinker fluid
I might just prefer the 4U over the Origin.
>>102851205Whaaaaat? 4U is cheaper. This can't be true.
>>102851205bro i'm already FOMO over the stickers and key caps... don't tempt me with another pos
>>102851445Don't redeem if you don't need it, but I'm just letting you know that my sticker collection is on point.
>>102851533What I need is the psychoacoustic techs boost from such awesome Asano memorabilia...
The space travels are really nice, except that it sounds like absolute shit during certain frequencies such as the final part of the song Short Circuit by Daft Punk. Some other tracks I have in .flac also have this issue.Man I wish TWS could be as good as 20$ iems.
>>102839318been years since my last chinkshit purchase.what are the current flavor of the month pos under 200$ anons?
>>102852944A 300 fotm pos if u can wait till 11.11
>>102852970Based, truly chinkshit enjoyer
>>102852970>wait for 11.11kek, that was my plan anyway. i bought a huawei tablet on 10.10 and now i need an upgrade for my KZ ZSX
hello sirs
>Kefine Klean $40Basically seems like a cheaper Delci in different shell and with swap nozzles "standard," now>CVJ Aria $80Aria at home... (probably just another CVJ pos)>>102853123Is there anything worthwhile I can do with 2.0 Edifier bookshelves or no reason to bother?
>>102853008Agree that it's reasonable to wait for 11.11 at this point. I think Binary Dynaquattro : bass enjoyer, Simgot Supermix4 : all-rounder, Moondrop Kadenz : bass allergic, generally cover the bases around your budget. Expect a few more pos will drop in the meantime
>>102853123an omnidirectional microphone does not take human hearing functions into account.an omni mic combines reflections with direct sound of speakers and give you a steady state in room response. That's not how we hear speakers. to our hearing, direct sound is perceptually dominant to reflections. Reflections are just perceived as timbral colorations. Imagine a scenario where you see a dip around 1500hz taken by an omni microphone and apply EQ there, this would boost the direct sound of speakers and now you have extremely boosted 1500hz. Your speakers now sound shouty even though the response looks so called linearOn top of that, because speakers do not have perfect radiation pattern, if you EQ on-axis by +5db, reflections might get boosted for example by +3db or +7db dependng on the speaker.So you thought you fixed a 1500hz dip, but now you have boosted on-axis response which we place more value than reflections. Now your speakers sound shouty. Everything looks great on the paper but things sound wrong.On top of that that +5db EQ you applied at 1500hz might just boost the reflections by +3db instead +5db like you hoped for.You basically ruined everything human brain can discern reflections from direct sound above 300-700hz. The cut off frequency for that depends on the size of the roomthat's why it's not recommended to apply EQ above these room transition frequenciessource: Floyd Toole's book
Part 1/2New noteworthy release post. Just clearing out the backlog in anticipation for the sales period (Lord have mercy)Price in ($USD with sales*), [driver configuration]IEMs:>Topping ArpegEar Hane ($130) [1DD]4 switches that actually change the FR. >AFUL Performer 5+2 ($?) [2DD + 4BA + 1PL]Looks ugly! And very minor FR changes.>Kinera Celest IgniteX Beast ($50) [1DD + 1BA]Recycled shell but tuned differently. Doesn't look or graph great.>EPZ Q5 Pro ($~60) [1DD]Released already on Aliexpress.>Tripowin x 0diBi Vivace ($?) [1DD]Looks like a cheap release>Tanchjim Origin Matte finish ($?) [1DD] Seen at SIAS(?). Don't hate the look but nowhere close to the original's seductiveness.>Kinera Celest Ignitex Beast ($50) [1DD + 1BA]Looks like it uses the same shell as the Wvyerns, with a different faceplate >Tangzu Bajie ($600) [1DD + 4BA + 1EST + 1BC]Feels like I covered this a lot. Graphs fine.>Tangzu Yu Xuan Ji ($50) [1DD]Same thing, seems like it's been covered a lot. Faceplate is almost bad enough for my trypophobia.>Kefine Klean ($?) [1DD]New Kefine, with removable nozzles.>Final Audio A6000 ($?) [1DD]New Final, or maybe teased a while back. Too lazy to recheck.>Dunu Kima 2 ($?) [1DD]New Kima, different tuning. Graphs like a 1DD.>Moondrop x ddHifi Concerto ($330) [1PL + 1xMEM]DSP bullet style, rather steep price.>Moondrop MOCA ($50) [1DD]TWS by Moondrop yet again.>Moondrop Kadenz ($190) [1DD]Moondrop Kato successor. Changed the same way the Gate changed from the Hola.>Tanchjim Bunny ($?) [1DD?]Seen at SIAS. Same form factor as the 4U but with plastic and a seemingly attached cable.>Tanchjim Zero Ultima ($?) [1DD?]Same deal, seems like a continuation of the Zero line.>ddHifi x Moondrop Surface ($?) [1DD + 4BA?]>7Hz releases ($X) [X]Too lazy to recheck too, but expect more budget offerings and an HBB collab (the ugly white kidney shaped one)>Ziigaat POS ($X) [X]Too many damn releases and collabs, fuck this shit.
>>102853525Part 2/2>"Obscure" brands (INTUAURA, CKLVX, PULA, Raptgo, XINHS, QoA, Tiandirenhe, LUN SHENG, FLOAUDIO, etc)I can't do it for all of them, sorry :(>TRN, KZ, CCA, CVJ, NiceHCK, FiiO, etcYou know the drill, not posting any of these. As always, beware of KZ/CCA stealth revisions.DAC/Amps/Accessories>Too many dongle DAC/ampsNot listing all of them. A lot of CS43131 being used, and they're getting cheaper and cheaper. Also a lot of cool cheap dongles, receivers and stuff.News and events:New /iemg/ project (the gazette) was made, pretty neat. Assuming this will end up in there, so hi from the past!New paper from Harman/S. Olive on 5128 targets! Apparently there's also another paper where listeners did preference adjustments (ie their own targets) which was talked about at CJ. The EQ guide covers it too.
>>102853525the pre-11.11 storm has only just begun...btw for anyone who may be interested since it's bringing the xMeme driver, Moondorp Concerto shells felt incredibly cheap. i don't own space travels, but it's how i imagine they'd feel, with some shitty grey paint on them, and a non-replaceable wire. the sound is just whatever, fine, nothing stood out, maybe some extra treble incisiveness / bite. not worth it at all imo just another moondud
>>102853596oh and the fit was not good for me. again i'm not certain, but it's like the space travel shell shape with an added non-short-tws nozzle. did not fit me well even with a few tips to try
>>102853596>the pre-11.11 storm has only just begun...I'm scared...Thankfully other anons have started to do similar things, especially during SIAS with that one anon <3>>102853596>>102853620The reception seems to be quite middling with the hefty price tag and subpar build. I still don't know why they try to put MEM drivers in wired IEMs, it just doesn't make much sense.Thanks for the impression, the fit also seemed really weird. Space travel and TWS are fine since they don't have additional weight, so it's weird they did that. I'm assuming they repurposed their TWS design for the Concerto since it also probably has a lot of internal components.
>>102839318Thoughts on the HiBy r4?
>>102853123you could've saved yourself the trouble and just eq'd $3 pos to my endgame target
>>102853525>Final Audio A6000It uses the same Pure Beryllium DD as the A8Kthe price is around $500 according to SoCal impressionsthere are also 2 new bullets S4000 and S5000 using 2BAmisses but not that noteworthy>Dunu DK3001 BD1DD+4BA+4Planars ~$500>Truthear Zero Blue 2 and Pure02: Smaller lip, more harman 2019 adherence, red driversPure: new hexa milking on meta tuning hype
>>102853885Fuck, I even told myself to not forget the two TE products too. Completely forgot the new Dunu. Will add these when i post the list again in the next thread.
>>102853540>Apparently there's also another paper where listeners did preference adjustments (ie their own targets) which was talked about at CJpicrel sums it up
>>102853885a6000 will solve my dunu luna fomo
>>102853735it's a dap. consider shanling m1 plus as competitor. iirc people pick up hiss with sensitive iems on the R4, and apparently it gets hot. tbf a good chunk of dacamps / daps have that as a con
Moondrop is so back bros
>>102855043Wtf is this slop
>>102853395maybe this is a better eq? estimated is taken from cea2034 data
holy shit we were joking about it... they're taking preorders for kayzed castor pro. lmfao>wait for prx pro in 2 weeks>wait for castor 2 in a month
>>102853769You could have saved money you spent on HRT and got speakers instead.
>>102855881hrt is required to enjoy speakers. it's in floyd toole's book
>>102856007Troons are allergic to speakers.
>>102856048troons love speakers, that's why the endgame target is named after them
>>102856051The target is named after you, who's allergic to speakers.
>>102856062well yeah I own a multibillion dollar speaker setup
>>102856070You don't own any speakers. If you did you would know that no EQ can make IEMs/headphones sound like speakers.
>>102856107i own speakers that's how i created the endgame target, you are just upset i made endgame speaker sound available to all
>>102856121See >>102856107
>>102856124already deboonked
>>102856139It was real in your mind.
>>102856154ick, internalized transphobia
>ASMR = Audio Science Measurements Reviews
>>102855160looks like wannabe TRN Conch
New epzos.
how did etymotic manage to put a tiny dynamic driver in ER2XR, make it unvented and still sound so good? how small the diameter of that DD is, 3mm or so? I've always thought that a DD that small would only squeak and make zero bass
>>102856500Entirely due to no venting and good seal. Put it in a regular shell and it'll be nothing but farts. And it's not that good. It actually distorts more than their BAs.
How can I get noise isolation that's as good as or better than ANC?Everywhere I go is loud as shit and my autistic brain can't handle it.
>>102856911if you want to specifically cut off the bass from outside world, there's nothing better than a good ANCif you want to cut off anything else, any pos with good isolation are better, look at pos that are unvented or with small vents
>>102856911Etymotics+3m noise protecting ear muffs >Inb4 I'll look autisticLmao
>>102856968What's a good high visibility jacket to go with this?
>>102856980One of those that construction workers use.
Protip for Hexasses who use Poweramp: turn up the bass boost to 40% to make the bass more impactful and rich in note weight. Any more than that will make it muddy, but 40% is like the sweet spot.
>>102853540>beware of KZ/CCA stealth revisions.Put moondrop on the list
Good morning sirs what are small compactful in ear monitars to do sleeping with?
>>102857539Good morning too you sirPlease do not use iem while you sleeping
Out of curiosity, do you guys use third party mp apps instead of the default one that comes in the DAP. If so what do you use and why?
what even is the point of using IEMs other than listening to stuff in public, for example on the bus?Right now I am sitting next to a music something class at my uni. The singing is so fucking beautiful. Even the my speakers at home could never reproduce even a tenth of the experience. IEMs at best are only a tenth of the speakers. There is 0 (zero) reason to use IEMs at home. 0. Even my crappy laptop speakers deliver better experience.
>>102858076fuck I should have proof read my post
>>102858076
>>102858076skill issue
>>102858076i like my high SNR and sharp imaging when playing FPS instead of dealing with crosstalk from speakers i like my isolation and privacyi like my 20hz extension for cheapi like my head not having a dentIEMs are the best for my use case
>>102857282All collabs belong in the trash.
>>102858129can you actually answer the question you fucking retard?Here, I'll repeat it:>what even is the point of using IEMs other than listening to stuff in public, for example on the bus?Can you conjure up some actual response or are you just going to post more funny pictures?>>102858165>i like my head not having a dentspeakers don't leave a dent on your head lelother than that yeah I agree with you, although I don't share the use cases
>>102856330>ear gain higher than bassEwwPZ
ok guys listen to meIEMs that play frequencies from 100 to 20kand subwoofers next to you that play 100 and belowwould that work?
>>102858200>speakers don't leave a dent on your headno, they but they do on your IQ>or are you just going to post more funny pictures?correct
>>102858248>no, they but they do on your IQoh are you the guy that claimed that speakers are for niggers like a month ago? Have you moved out of your parents' yet you fucking loser?
>>102858259I accept your concession.
>>102858259>call people loser>keep a guy rend free on his head for month from a 4chan threadanon...
literally lmaoing at some of you brokies in this thread? you cheap out and buy 30 dollar iems? why even bother?
Imagine being this mad $5 pos btfo'd his setup.
>>102858076For musicians you fucking retard. Your trash laptop and garbage at home speakers are poorfag cope compared to cost of music production.
Moondrop Moca any good?
>>102858598Producers use speakers and they often cost less than home speakers.
>>102840064>started digging into my skull.f-for how long did you usually wear them?it only happens for those who spend the whole day with headphones on, r-right?
wtf is the king of <30 dollors nowadays? It can't be still Salnotes right?
>>102858795EDC Pro + XINHS cable + good eartip
>>102858674LMAO
>put triple flange tips on my tws pos>can't fit them back in the charging case
>>102857539I use D-Fi but since it's a KZ, the filters fell out one night (thanks god not stuck on my eardrums) and I replaced them with foam in the nozzle.
>cable breaksjust buy new chink iems>filter falls outjust buy new chink iemsthese things are simply too cheap
Looking for a replacement cable for my older starfields as the stock one has started to fray and cause the sound to cut out, for the first time today even. I was looking at the kbear and tripowin cables in the OP as 20$ is around what I'm looking for. Are either of those fine? Generally looking for no-tangle, no-fray and some kind of moisture resistance.
>>102858402Chu 2 sounds legitimately good.
>>102859315gate, you get tips, the pos and a good cable for less than 20, just use the cable and test tips or whatever
>>102859427Is the cable actually any good though? Been a while so I haven't heard of the maker but it kinda looks like the shitty kind of chinkshit. No idea how the iems themselves sound though.
>>102858674>they often cost less than home speakersSauce? (so I can buy them)
>>102859627Genelecs(they cost less than focal grande utopia).
>Soundcore R50iIs my current set.Is there something that has ANC, wired and is IEM?
>>102832544from last thread:it may be over but i havent lost hope
>>102858076see >>102853769
>>102859617NTA but Gate for the cable really is a sensible option if you need a replacement. Tripowin Zonie can encounter corrosion over time near the earhook-pin connection area, as do plenty of other cables (we're talking over time and depending on your ambient use conditions). There are tons of other cables on Aliexpress if you search the various brand names from rentry if you want something blingier looking or thicker (heavier). Stay away from cloth / fabric covered. picrel guy who has a boner for Gate cables and prefers them even for more expensive IEMs
>>102860353Interesting. I'll look a little more into it and probably go ahead and grab something. I'm interested in getting a new pair of mid-end iems later anyway so it might give me some insight into their quality as well.
>>102843904>>102845528>Did I fuck up?No, they are ok. Got mine for $2.5 usd.
>>102859645https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1507380-REG/genelec_8361ap_3way_active_studio_monitor_dual.html
>turn on puter>open tidal, search bierk>grab le epz pair>gentle bong hit>hit playIs this heaven?
dunu is so freaking back
Normie music in memoriamhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3IQwuYX_ls
>>102856330Nice pinna gain you stupid faggot
>>102862763Pic unrelated.
Thoughts on Dunu Titan S?
>>102848473This. Omw to order another pair of Q1 Pro. >>102847898Is it EPZ Q1 or G10? G10 has a slightly bigger nozzle and shouldn't be recommended IMO. EPZ Q1 is way better. >>102856330Ohh nice!!! I like shure fit a lot.
>>102862795>over 6db rise from 1khz to 2khz.Pic is more related than you could ever comprehend retard.Harman is the cancer that never goes away
>>102862986Better than meta hrtuning.
>>102862872leans bright and sub bass rolls off. there is a S2 revision, accessories are good. wait for 11.11, $50 or less and it's more reasonable. metal shell 1dd pos so nozzle filter will prob clog over time
>>102863009Normally I’d agree with you except hrtuning is still extremely rare and you have to pay a premium for it.Completely unacceptable that there is still a hole in the market despite the demand.If hrtuning turns out to be shit? fine. great. But at least it would tried with plenty of options out there.Shartman 5kEEEEEEEEE and lower mids tranny tuck combo is disgustingly common and also disgustingly bad.
>>102863088say what you will, but cringacle is your savior.>blue2 omega harminge tuning (+some upper treble)>meta latest fotm trainwhy these chink companies need some fat fuck to tell them "follow a target line" idfk, but they do it and give him his cut
>>102861931Yes, a fraction of what home speakers cost.
Kneel and buy new FOTM gweilo.
>>102863009>>102863088Meta is the best tuning by far, just get a Meta tuning pos that feels comfortable in your ears, slap on your favorite eartips and you won't feel like listening to earphones at all, rather it's like something's playing somewhere outside
>>102863250ok listener
>>102863238That font... that shell shape... is that a tanchjim, xixtas? O.O
How much do you have to spend to get a pair of IEMs that don't start falling apart after three months?
>>102863338these are material objects. negligent care or abuse deteriorates chances of maintaining good condition. you can spend $4,000 and have some shit clog with your earwax, drop it and shatter a part, have a driver die randomly, have a cable / pins breaks.
>>102863338Stop buying moondrop and metal shells that are condensation machines pos that helps a lot
>>102863338Have you tried being careful with your sets?
>>102841749is that dr justin sledge?????
>>102863326Im dropping tanchjim if they collab with the fat fuck
does anyone remember the js trick to get the .txt on hangout's graphtool? the thread that mentioned went 404
>>102863370>>102863376I'm very careful with all my electronics and I store my IEMs in a drawstring pouch when I'm not using them. All the Chinese ones start falling apart after a few months of use, the last being the EPZ Q1 Pro.
Fuck, I think my sony wf-1000xm3 are going out. Left one seems like it's not charging anymore and they're old enough that I can't just buy the same set over again. Any recommendations for Bluetooth iems with noise cancellation? Trying to keep it in the $150 price range at most. Using them for everything from music at work, to desktop gaming. Really love this pair after changing out the tips.
>>102863238>>102863326Huh, I thought it ressembled Symphonium pos instead.But it's probably Tanchjim. If you check the font of the A, it is similar to the Hana 2021, especially with the gold accent and shape of the border.
>>102863261I am indeed a listener like many of us here, at least those who don't focus only on graphs and prices
>>102863326>Tanchjim>Meta target>on top of that, made in collaboration with the renowned audiophile Crinacle who has far better tastes in IEMs and is more trustworthy even in blind buys than /iemg/this will be my next pos
>>102839318are any of the wireless moondrop things any good?
>>102863610>cutest waifu in the biz>ugliest personality in the bizAh yes, Aristotle's golden mean, this will be the pos to end all pos.
>>102863635Yuki is the cutest
>>102863635asanobros i cant believe we're getting cucked...
which source under $100 specifically (and probably only) for my PC with GNU/Linux to properly power my pos?
I will shoot my origin with a rifle if Tanchjim collabs with cringicle. Fuck him and everything he stands for.
i got my FiiO HS20 and they are epic holy shit
>>102863811so Chuzo was right again?
>>102863338>>102863501you just keep repeating "falling apart." if you want actual advice be more specific about what you've encountered over time and with what iems.a drawstring pouch is not sufficient protection. not protecting from moisture, dust, crushing, or anything.
>>102863832i'm chuzo lol
>>102863832he's always been right...
>>102863849what's the best EQ for chu 2 to use for thick, meaty, airy and shimmery synths?
>>102863510just get xm again. if samsung/itoddler phone, their buds. spend for the best, the rest is garbage, so only pay cheap prices for cheap shit if that's the route you wanna go. qcy melo, moondorp space travel/mocha, soundpeats/soundcore. all tws die>>102863629they're fine. complaints are battery life, space travel case design, fit comfort. not issues for all, but may be for you. see above for other general tws
>>102863510clean the contacts, replace the batteries, XM3 are among the most repairable twshits ever made if we don't count awful-sounding fairbuds, throwing this gem away would be a real loss
i was already more into pop music than most anons but i struggled with chappell roan. suddenly her songs are giving me goosebumps with FiiO HS20
>>102863994bro surely you've eq'd to tilted DF from B&K5128 measurements, right? you'll literally shed tears...
>>102863994Pop music is mastered for elevator speakers. You're not unraveling some secret that 6 billion people know.
So is there really no way to sort songs in a playlist alphabetically on this fucking thing? I'm happy with it otherwise and it's not like it's unusable without it, but it's kind of annoying.
What's your favorite IEM driver, /iemg/? Mine is this exact model in particular.
>>102861931>5k>less than home speakersEven Shartur Stanford undergrad extraordinare didn't pay that much for his
>just ordered some gatoscan't wait to see what kind of pos I'm getting for 18 dollarydoos
>>102864161Kef, revel and other home theater brands go $10k+ per speakers easily. Audiofool speakers like the aforementioned grande utopia go for $200k+ per speaker easily, you might spend $5k on cable risers alone. Studio speakers are peanuts in comparison.
>>102864319Why do people spend that much when $3 pos+ EQ mogs all of them?
>>102864344Phone speakers mog all IEMs with any EQ.
>>102864367Go start phone speaker general then, bye and have fun!
>>102864397No need, any phone works.
>>102864292Remember to alwaysinsert. deeper.deep insertion lowers the 6-8khz resonance and cancels the 9-10khz dip for unironic kilobuck treble
>>102864403?
>>102864057there's another dimension when you fully engage with it charles cornell soiface style and dance along with itlike>It sounds rich even through crappy tv speakers.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiTg_dt5BbYthat's a compliment, not that the synth itself is crappy. they've collabed with some DSP genius to arrive at this sound
>>102864344>heh my $3 KZ is clearly superior for everyone
>>102864418actually the resonance gets bigger but if you manage to shove your pos deep enough to get into the 10k territory, it can cancel out some of the dip, the thing is according to some research the dip is expected to be there, in other cases it's a coupler artifact caused by tuning chambers and vents, overall it's not something one should be worried about
>>102864474no I just said its superior to speakers. idk why people get so upset over this
>>102864506>I said dumb thing why everyone mad
>>102864531dumb? its the truth sorry
>>102864622Debunked by Snopes.
>>102864628snopes issued a retraction
>>102864632AES declared the retraction unlawful.
>my sales graph after collaborating with cringy
>>102864744aes is a mossad psyop
>>102864628speaking of snopes, what IEM is the most suitable for soγjaks?
>>102864506FR isn't always everything, speakers make it a whole body experience.Also my point was that not everyone wants to spend time to become a trained listener just to EQ treble manually over buying a $100 pos that's close enough instead.
>>102864136Unironically love BAs now because of the Mach 70. Now I understand why Audiopedos use words like Soundstage, imaging, and micro-detail.
>>102864767Dusk 2
>>102864760Mossad declared this poster dead.
new >>102864827
>>102864793getting covid is also a whole body experience, that does not make it good$3 pos + eq reigns supreme
>>102864805the most common dealbreaker with BAs is their inherent timbre that sounds like gentle rattling in a metal tin, some people call it plasticky and can't stand it, some don't notice it, while others (myself included) enjoy it for the shimmer it adds to the music
>>102864840Covid is better than having something sound in your head.
>>102864888>t. octuple vaxxed soience lover
>>102864840>covid is also a whole body experienceMaybe if you're an oldfag>but muh squigly FREQ your speakers by ear
>>102864874based colored sound enjoyer, took my zat out for a listen today and really like their clarity and mids emphasis.
>retarded troll posts>rat shows his dumbfuck facelike clockworkkys fat retard nobody gives a fuck what you think about anything
>>102839318
>>102865740Based sigma
