How to request advice:>Budget>Intended use (media, source, environment)>Frequency response preference and music examples>Past gear and your thoughts on themFAQ:>Where do I buy IEMs?Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio>Shopping Guide (IEMs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide>EQ Guide (Measurements, Targets, Equalizer, etc.):https://rentry.org/IEM-EQ-Guide>/iemg/ Proto-Blog/Wikihttps://rentry.org/iemgazette>Frequency Response Graph Toolsquig.link>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:• EPZ Q1 Pro / G10 (Harman) - $35• TRN Conch (bright V) - $35• Kefine Delci (bassy neutral) - $75• Simgot EA500LM (bright V) - $90>Bullet IEMs:• Final E500 (dark) - $25• Tanchjim One DSP (neutral) - $30• Etymotic ER2XR (neutral) - $100>Flathead Earbuds:• Blue Vido (warm) - $5• Faaeal Iris 2.0 (warm) - $10>USB-C DACs:• Non-EU Apple dongle (A2049, not A2155) - $10• Fosi Audio DS2 2024 - $60• Qudelix 5K - $110>PMPs:• Hifi Walker H2 / Surfans F20 (Rockbox) - $120• HiBy M300 - $200• Hidizs AP80 Pro-X - $200• Shanling M1 Plus - $210Previous thread: >>102839318
Transjimmies I'm not feeling so good. Cringicle is bad news.
>>102864855it's over tranxxixta, time to detransition
>>102864855
>>102864888nice triplets, but seriously give the Meta target a try, it's exceptional exactly because it does not sound like it's in your head
>>102864979In-your-head sound is created by the lack of room reflections. Even speakers sound in your head in an anechoic chamber. The FR is irrelevant.
>>102864979don't reply seriously to the speaker weirdo, he's only here to evangelize speakers
>>102864855I stand proudly behind her (as a cuck)!>>102864891Never!>>102864927More wealth for my Queen.
>>102865018Your lord and savior Sharur declared IEMs to be worse than phone speakers.
>>102865045sir this is the iem general not the competitive street shitting general
>>102865010>>102865018I enjoy both my Edifier bookshelf speakers and my Truthear Hexa with similar result, in both cases I hear the music in front of me and around me
>>102865054You could never compete with me.
>>102865064nobody can, you are the #1 street shitting world champion
I just got kefine delci. Why do they sound something like wind swishing in my ear unless I boost high frequencies(samsung adapt sound)? It's painful as hell to listen. Returning them is not an option.
>>102865324unable to even guess what you're trying to describe, and what you did doesn't seem like it would be any kind of realistic fix. assuming it's defective, or something in your source chain is not working properly
>>102865324verify that all connections are proper and secureverify that all components are working (ie try the cable with different iems (if you have any), try the iems on a different 3.5mm jack, try a different pair of earphones on the 3.5mm jack in question, etc.)
>>102865421Different headphones on the same jack are fine. I don't have the different cable or iem with detachable cable. Guess I'll try to borrow something with the same cable to check.
>>102865056I like it when my IEMs "tickle" my ear. Most of the sound is "in my head" but certain bass dominated sounds are presented as to the side right next to my ears and it feels good. This must be what ASMRfags experience with their lipsmackingwhispershit.
>>102865349>unable to even guess what you're trying to describeIt's hard to describe but certain frequencies sound like someone whistling in your ear. So some songs are fine and the others are ear gore.
>>102865056>>102865531Its not something I ever experience with my speakers
>>102865546obviously something wrong and not the intended sound. again, double check all connection points, try on different 3.5mm jacks, etc.
Stay awhile and listenhttps://youtu.be/3DDTJwz8t5E
>>102865633It’s Dangerous To Go Alone! Take This.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cEn8xXOw1w
>>102865568Okay so it seems that fucking samshit soundcard does something weird specifically with these iems.Computer -> delci - fineComputer -> usb sound card -> delci - finePhone -> delci - whistlePhone -> 3 other headphones - fine
>>102865699odd. i use a s10e and have never encountered anything weird. guess you unfortunately rolled a not-working combinationi can't muster any valid reason why there would be a particular issue with the delci on the phone, but if you say it's so
>>102858713>insert IEMs for the first time>cant hear PC whatsoever>totally noise cancellingI'm never going back to headphones.
what FR target is the best for a Dalit experience?
>>102865755>i can't muster any valid reason why there would be a particular issue with the delci on the phoneI'm baffled as well. I did replace the bottom board with one from aliexpress because I was too lazy to replace broken usb c port, but other headphones are not affected so I dunno magic.
>>102865877speakers are pretty dalitpilled
>>102864827Any $100 neutral iem with vent?
>>102865877Whatever KZ tried to achieve
>>102866059most iems have vents unless you get some BA-only pos or certain bullets
>>102866059Neutral doesn't even exist. It's all relative to your taste and anatomy.
Part 1/2New noteworthy release post. A decent amount of releases but I haven't been keeping up with much.Price in ($USD with sales*), [driver configuration]IEMs:>Topping ArpegEar Hane ($130) [1DD]4 switches that actually change the FR. >AFUL Performer 5+2 ($?) [2DD + 4BA + 1PL]Looks ugly! And very minor FR changes.>Kinera Celest IgniteX Beast ($50) [1DD + 1BA]Recycled shell but tuned differently. Doesn't look or graph great.>EPZ Q5 Pro ($~60) [1DD]Released already on Aliexpress.>Truthear Zero Blue 2 ($?) [2DD?]Another one in the line. Smaller nozzle, better matches Harman, and new faceplate>Truthear Pure ($?) [?]Prototype seen at SIAS. Apparently sounds like JM-1, or "new meta". Successor to the Hexa.>Tripowin x 0diBi Vivace ($?) [1DD]Looks like a cheap release>Dunu DK3001 BD (~$500) [1DD + 4BA + 4PL]Looks cool but graphs pretty badly.>Tanchjim Origin Matte finish ($?) [1DD] Seen at SIAS(?). Don't hate the look but nowhere close to the original's seductiveness.>Kinera Celest Ignitex Beast ($50) [1DD + 1BA]Looks like it uses the same shell as the Wvyerns, with a different faceplate >Tangzu Bajie ($600) [1DD + 4BA + 1EST + 1BC]Feels like I covered this a lot. Graphs fine.>Tangzu Yu Xuan Ji ($50) [1DD]Same thing, seems like it's been covered a lot. Faceplate is almost bad enough for my trypophobia.>Kefine Klean ($?) [1DD]New Kefine, with removable nozzles.>Final Audio A6000 (~$500) [1DD]New Final, or maybe teased a while back. Apparently has the same beryllium driver as the A8000 (thanks anon!)>Final Audio S4000/S5000 ($?) [2BA]Bullet pos, they seem interesting (thanks anon!)>Dunu Kima 2 ($?) [1DD]New Kima, different tuning. Graphs like a 1DD.>Moondrop x ddHifi Concerto ($330) [1PL + 1xMEM]DSP bullet style, rather steep price.>Moondrop MOCA ($50) [1DD]TWS by Moondrop yet again.>Moondrop Kadenz ($190) [1DD]Moondrop Kato successor. Changed the same way the Gate changed from the Hola.
>>102864827>IEMs as well as headphones require HRTF/EQ fuckery to sound good while flat axis speakers sound good for everyone, including hearing aid peopleI'm done iems.
Anything better than spring tips out there?
>>102866247S&S
>>102864827i finally fixed my tanchjim one dsp
>>102866217Part 2/2>Tanchjim Bunny ($?) [1DD?]Seen at SIAS. Same form factor as the 4U but with plastic and a seemingly attached cable.>Tanchjim Zero Ultima ($?) [1DD?]Same deal, seems like a continuation of the Zero line.>7Hz releases ($X) [X]Too lazy to recheck too, but expect more budget offerings and an HBB collab (the ugly white kidney shaped one)>Ziigaat POS ($X) [X]Too many damn releases and collabs, fuck this shit.>"Obscure" brands (INTUAURA, CKLVX, PULA, Raptgo, XINHS, QoA, Tiandirenhe, LUN SHENG, FLOAUDIO, etc)I can't do it for all of them, sorry :(>TRN, KZ, CCA, CVJ, NiceHCK, FiiO, etcYou know the drill, not posting any of these. As always, beware of KZ/CCA stealth revisions.DAC/Amps/Accessories>Too many dongle DAC/ampsNot listing all of them. A lot of CS43131 being used, and they're getting cheaper and cheaper.News and events:New /iemg/ project (the gazette) was made, seems pretty neat. I better see this list in there editor-san...New paper from Harman/S. Olive on 5128 targets! Apparently there's also another paper where listeners did preference adjustments (ie their own targets) which was talked about at CJ. The EQ guide covers it too.
Musichttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2se0MTGIyg4&pp=ygUOc2hpbmVyIHRoZSBlZ2c%3D
what's the difference between a CS43131 dong and apple dongle in sound ?
>>102866403the fucking techs**needs a window or waifu engraving
>>102866403not much especially if you stay using 3.5mm. once you sink cost into 500mw 4.4mm balanced output, buy a dope $25 4.4mm cable, get harder-to-drive transparent memepos, then you'll properly hallucinate the increased spatial staging, macrodynamics, and bass authority
>>102866295nice
Having wet earwax and using IEMs is absolute aids.
>turn on puter>open tidal, search bierk>grab le epz pair>gentle pipe hit>hit play is this heaven?
Is Be driver safe???
>break into library>steal CD, shove into crack den CD player>grab le KZ>hit the galaxy gas>hit playis this heaven?
>>102866217>Dunu DK3001 BD (~$500) [1DD + 4BA + 4PL]>Looks cool but graphs pretty badly.is there a graph?
>>102867248Fuck I mixed it up with the Pro, no there's no graphs afaik.I should stop rushing these out.
>>102867193Yes if you open up the IEMs, peel off the driver diaphragm, pulverize it and inhale the dust. You can try with an angle grinder if you really crave that Be dust and want to get it in your lungs ASAP.
>>102866399https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH4Vx5zz7Go
>>102867193Yes, it's only dangerous in the manufacturing facilities in China where the dust is probably free floating for workers to inhale
Fiio hs20 now obsolete
>>102868015Props to them using real photo, but at least wipe off the dust ffs.
>>102865010the meta target is basically a tilted 5128 diffuse field that was modified using other data with the aim to better fit the population average. some variant of diffuse field is considered ideal for headphones/IEMs unless using crossfeed or 3d audio simulation because the sound is heard as coming equally from all directions so the in-your-head effect is not as severe as some other tunings.
>>102868071trust me, that's the cleanest it's going to get
>>102868015they literally look identical, just different branding
>>102868171they don't just look identical, the promo material (including the dimension sheet) is quite literally the same
>>102866059of course Hexa
just bought the trn mt5im ready to sail on the tinnitus crossing
>>102868963bro why did you buy that pos...
>>102869048>cheap trn chinkshit>metal build >qdc>trn tuningif im buying pos, i want mostest pos
>>102868963Most likely Orca reskinned without switches. Shouldn't be that bad.
>>102866399Only real music https://youtu.be/UVza9-PShsc
bought an electrostatic IEM. what am i in for? the measurements look weird, especially the impulse response
>>102867193nonext question
>>102869304why did you buy that pos bro...
>>102869304>micro usb in 2024it's really joever for you
>>102865877whatever *Thieaudio prestige LTD* has
>>102869304They sound extremely weird and have the highest quality electrostatic chinkland can offer Why did you buy them?
planar gang stay winning
>>102869834Years are passing, the S12 Pro is still goated. Everyone should redeem a pair of those.
EPZ is so comfy compared to Truthear
duck, kys
>>102864827is that a man?
>>102870320Can't believe they sell reskinned s12 for +$100 more
>>102872376It's Jim from Tanchjim.
what does EPZ mean?
>>102873098Epic Pos for Zoomers
Good morning, I few months ago had advised by some benchod in this thread that Chu 2 is shit and I should not redeem it. You know what? Fuck his mother, his family eats cows. Chu 2 is the best and good updation from my old earbuds and it is not needful to use EQ to make ideal sound
>>102873223No one ever said Chu 2 is bad it’s just slightly v shaped compared to neutral.Metal build is cool but that also means condensation issues
>>102864827this is your appearance
KZ ZSN PRO X. I just got these for free. What do I think of them?
>>102874232speedrun to hearing damage
>>102874232imminent suicide from chronic crippling tinnitus
>>102874265>>102874305nothing particularly sharp about the high end in my experience. what makes me think this?
>>102874373severe hearing loss in that frequency region
>>102874373Anon, I….
>>102874232Trifecta experience at 1% of the cost.Close your eyes and pretend it's $3300.
>>102874373>what makes me think this?a thousand possible reasons>not a particularly trained listener (undiscerning)>fucked up driver>used to extreme brightness>hearing damage anons are exagerating, but they are bright af
>>102874518and now the same but compensated to the meta with two shrillgots thrown in, the supermix is more or less shartman, the LM has boosted 5k a bit, while the KZ does not just have 5k boosted even more, it's not even a bump anymore, it's a peak which painfully stabs the sensitive area of the sense of hearing
>>102874568bright i'll give you that, but there's nothing particularly tinny or sibilant about the highs. I have some headphones from 80-250 bucks that have less clarity and sound separation than these do. The mids are the only real underwhelming thing but the more i listened to them the more i started to really appreciate the clarity of it all. I haven't been in the game for a long time, like maybe 6 years or so i thought these were impressive af for fucking 20 bucks.
>>102874555trifecal is such a joke and a bait for audiopedophiles who don't know what to spend their money on anymore
>>102874616>I haven't been in the game for a long time, like maybe 6 yearslmao, 6 years is a long time in the current landscape of iems, but you're somewhat right, sound quality in iems has become excellent no matter the price. it's just that the zsn pro is **relatively** very outdated by today's standards
>>102874686oh that makes me even more hopeful for whatever i happen into next. has there been development in the hybrid driver setup like these have? i think it does wonders for the soundstage imo. what's the move from here?
>>102874713>has there been development in the hybrid driver setup like these have?depends on how you define development. driver configurations are used to change FR, leave it to the acoustic engineers.unless you know the details, don't worry about driver setups>i think it does wonders for the soundstage imocompletely unrelated>what's the move from here?whether you keep it or buy another iem, you should read the eq guide
>>102874766>whether you keep it or buy another iem, you should read the eq guidegot it. thanks senpai
>>102874649Based campfire and cable companies that sell expensive litmus tests outing the retards. That $3,000 silver cable with 0% silver review really cracks me up.
>>102874874the cable game is unbelievably profitable, the margins are absurd
>>102874874gotta give the headfier credit tho senpai>doesn't have the bright and analytical vibeshe heard the non-silver traits. but then ofc goes on to contradict with further hallucinations lol
>galaxy a55 and 56 don't have a audio jackIt's joever, i can't use 50 cents chink headphones anymore. Is there any decent cheap wireless earbuds or do i have to buy a USB-C to 3.5mm adapter?
>>102875354qcy melo, moondorp mocha, soundpeats/soundcore stuff
What are the best wire and tips for EDC Pro?
>>102875399none will ever help it sound good
>>102875415There's EQ for sound adjust and EDC Pro already sounds well out of the box. I need them for convenience and look.
>>102875399>CableAny from XINHS or NiceHCK that fits your aesthetics preference and budget. Huge improvement over the stock. >EartipsI'd go with FiiO HS20 or Divinus Velvet for budget ones but Pentaconn COREIR AI if you can.
>>102875399buy a better iem instead, trying to fix kz trash with cables is putting lipstick on a pig
>xhe doesn't know the cheaper the KZ the better they are
>>102875354why did you even buy that dogshit garbage?
>>102875573>divinus velvet>budget
im looking for some in-ear headphones.I've been wearing cheap panasonic my entire life but now im looking for something with better audio quality nothing fancy just black ass mediocre headphones for musicWIRED NO WIRELESS
>>102874518It got revised too probably wasn't that bad now lol
>>102875822tbf retardzo didn't say budget. he asked for the best. Eletech Baroque ear tips are good for wide bore. Maybe get in on the 150-limited run of The Fifth Ode cables
>>102875865yeah guy that's what the whole thread is about. pick whatever from op, order from amazon and you can return easily if you dont like it
>>102875573Ok, thanks, I'll look for it.
>>102874373Just because you can't hear it, it doesn't mean it isn't there. It can and will impair your hearing even more.
>>102864827frens, how do I order from Taobao????
>>102875941my hearing is fine.
Any anons used the moondrop ultrasonics?Worth the jump from space travels or should I look at other brands at that price point?
>try to see if I can hear 20k>sound gets quieter the more I approach my target>20k... silent>turn up the volume>I feel something>turn up the volume to the max>hear a very faint eeeee sound accompanied with an immense pressure from my pos going even further beyond playing 20kDo inaudible sounds damage your hearing? Am I retarded?
>>102876037Yes and yes. Don't worry though at least you're not using kz which will give you insta tinnitus
>>102876037inaudible noises when they’re loud enough can damage your hearing yes.Rule of thumb. Never play sine wave above90db even if you can’t hear it.Bass is generally a lot safer at high volumes although extremes can still damage you
>>102876037>>hear a very faint eeeee sound accompanied with an immense pressure from my pos going even further beyond playing 20k>Do inaudible sounds damage your hearing? Am I retarded?What you're feeling is the energy that's being dumped into your ear canal and inner ear. While all those hair cells do not trigger on all these high frequencies, they can get damaged by all the energy that's being transferred into the ear.Anyway, putting all these high freq into your ear, even if you can't "hear" them, is beyond stupid. Don't do that shit.
>>102875994There's a guide on /csg/ I think
Tempted to buy the Sennheiser CX.Am I making a bad decision?I prefer my pos to have good bass.
>>102876552which CX there’s like 15 of them
>>102876638My bad. The TWS earbuds.
>>102876037Inaudible noise can be damaging by themselves and they can be damaging through intermodulation. Playing 20kHz through a DAC can produce lower frequencies which are audible.
>>102876037most IEMs don't extend very well to 20khz, it's also part of the reason why harman is poorly defined past 8khz or so, it's just what the headpos they were using happened to have as the frequency response
>Budget$200 AUD>Intended use (media, source, environment)(youtube and mkv files, laptop, in bed sleeping on my side, need noise cancelling) >Frequency response preference and music exampleswhatever minimizes hearing damage>Past gear and your thoughts on themsamsung s5 earphones, they always seem to fall out though, and their noise cancelling isn't good
>>102865010Play music louder - stuff sounds closer. Play music quieter - stuff sounds further away. Audiophiles HATE this little trick.
>>102877811Meta target is the easiest on ears, Hexa is the entry level option for this style of tuning, Kiwiears KE4 being the step up
>>102877811ANC is bad for sleeping on your side, the mic will rub against the pillows and cause extra noise.Anyways moondrop chu 2, moondrop lan, sennheiser ie200 and meze alba (designed by andrew tate) are all quite small and should be decent for side sleeping. Get sticky silicone tips to prevent them from falling out. Spinfit w1, fiio hs20, softears ultraclear, azla xelastec are good ones to check out.
>>102866403apple dongle sounds like shit and will stop making any sounds after 2 weeks
>sleeping with pos inya'll weird bruh
>>102878251apple dongle is ruler flat from 20hz to 20k and its THD is lower than what the human ear can detect. how is this shit and how is this cxpos better?
any dongles without anime girl engravings are now shit and not worth discussing, this is objectively true facts and logic and has been fact check by real american patriots
>>102878485street shit harder iJeet
>>102878619Project harder, rajesh.
>>102878485the apple dongle is the bare minimum of "good enough for normies", not counting literal trash like integrated motherboard audio. dual CS43131/CS43198 is about as it gets without buying lolcow top of the line desktop DACs/amps. everything from output impedance (apple dongle US version was measured at 0.9ohm) which affects damping factor, SINAD, linearity, some CS43131/CS43198 dongles allow you to select linear phase oversampling filter whereas most other dongles including the apple dongle are minimum phase.
and you can use a balanced cable
>balanced cable>balanced tonality>balanced armaturesWe need more balance in our lives.
>>102878959>which affects damping factorit does not affect 99% of IEMs. >THE SHORT VERSION: All you really need to know is most headphones work best when the output impedance is less than 1/8th the headphone impedance. So, for example, with 32 ohm Grados the output impedance can be, at most, 32/8 = 4 ohms. The Etymotic HF5s are 16 ohms so the max output impedance is 16/8 = 2 ohms. If you want to be assured a source will work well with just about any headphone, simply make sure the output impedance is under 2 ohms. https://nwavguy.blogspot.com/2011/02/headphone-amp-impedance.html>SINAD, linearitynothing burger >to select linear phase oversampling filter whereas most other dongles including the apple dongle are minimum phasepicrelstop coping bro
>>102879119sneed, mostly linearity, but perhaps also SINAD and damping factor is why to this day in 2024 there are still idiots who won't shut up about dynamic range and the loudness war, because they're getting less dynamic range from their playback system than what the producer heard in the studio.for linear phase filters, see the video below, at the end he clearly demonstrates that linear phase filters are transparent, it's also the default advice by anyone who knows what they're talking about on audiosciencereview etc to suggest to use the linear phase fast roll-off filter when available:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBeuPoJ4vak
>>102879188>DACs having anything to do with the dynamic range of musicBrain damage.
>>102879208it's obvious, if you plug in your IEMs directly to the motherboard audio out on your computer, it sounds like shit
>>102879225Obvious brain damage.
>>102879258cope
even going from a flagship PCI sound card to dual CS43131 made an obvious difference, it took time to get used to the extra dynamic range
>>102878988AFUL MagicOne + Luna, unbeatable combo
>>102879274How long did it take you to realize you're deaf?
>>102879319>projecting
>>102879332>denial
if poorfags took as much time investing in themselves as they did coping about being poor they would no longer be poorfagsunless you're a thirdie, then you're just fucked might as well reroll nigga
wow bros these vacuum tubes really opened up the sound stage on my skull candies
>>102876152>>102876254>There's a guide on /csg/ I thinkOK, I read the guides and spent like an hour going though all the posts I could find on G and decided not to use the fucking agents. I did some searching though agent's sites and the prices they were giving me were shit. On some sites, I couldn't even find what I was looking for.Like so many posters have said, these agents specialize in clothing and fashion (knockoffs) so getting IEMs is out of their way.Anyway, I struggled, used translation apps, and I managed to create a valid order on Taobao. If I don't recieve IEMs, fuck it, lesson learned. But if it works out, I will never use any other site to buy stuff from China. Savings are like 11.11 savings but every day.
just mask the distortion caused by wow and flutter with more distortion bro
>>102880237how? also what did you buy
I didn't realize how small my ear canals were until I started shoving these thick ass Chinese nozzles down them. I ordered some SS W1s, hopefully they offer some much needed relief.
>>102880237Pretty sure the price evens out after you pay for the international shipping.
>>102878251>apple dongle sounds like shit and will stop making any sounds after 2 weeksRetard.It's one of the most tested DACs on the market.If it sounds like shit, it's one of the two reasons:1) Your hearing is shit2) You bought a fakeSince you're here, I'm guessing it's #2. I have a collection of about 20 DACs. Apple's dongle is neutral af and doesn't color the sound. See pic to figure out if you have a fake shit. Two on left are real.
>>102880512why do you own 20 dacs
apl dgl >>>>>>> transhit luna
>>102880552>why do you own 20 dacs
>>102880600so you don't own 20 dacs got it
>>102880385>how? It's fucking painful because Taobao has no English translation. I was screenshotting with my phone, using a translation app, and tapping on Chinese buttons. You have to do this once. Once you manage to put an item into your shopping cart, you can check out and you get the CC screen. After you make a payment, they have everything on file so it should be easy to make subsequent purchases and you won't have to do it again.Yellow/Orange buttons = add to shopping carOrange/Red buttons = buy now.>also what did you buyS12>>102880469>Pretty sure the price evens out after you pay for the international shipping.Shipping was zero. Where they might fuck me is with customs. I've been buying off AE and other chinese sites for 8+ years and never had to deal with customs fees. We;ll see... I give it 50-50 chance of working out without any issues.
>>102880552>why do you own 20 dacsMost of them I got for free to do reviews.
>>102880512street shit harder iJeet
>>102880624>jeets can afford apple shitandroid is all that jeets use.
>>102880622kys shill
Apple dongle is straight trash with abysmal build quality
>Budget$250 AUD>Intended usemusic in IT workplace, noise cancelling, should be able to wear under hands-free call headset>Frequency response preference and music examplessomething that i can EQ through rockbox to be fairly flat if necessary, should be able to handle low freq decently for techno and progressive house>Past gear and your thoughts on them0 experience with IEMs, have always used DT770s or mid priced studio monitors + sub.>DACwill be using iPod classic 6.5
apple dongle is the best cheap dongle. period.
>>102880645shartur is the jeet king and he uses apple
>>102880779One out of billion.Who runs Google? Who runs Android? Who runs Microsoft? heh
>>102880784Jews
>>102880648>shillI just make and post graphs, buddy. I'm not under and NDA or contract and they can't block what I post. I don't even have affiliate links. Be fucking happy there's at least some of us who make data available without payola.
there still isn't any dongle that has a lower power consumption than apple dongletherefore it wins
>>102880784do you even know who took the first street shit at One Infinite Loo to christen the opening of crApple?
>>102880829see >>102880624
>>102880797no, you can fuck off and die like every other eceleb
>>102880850i despise apple just as much as the next guy but the ch*nks seemingly can't make a good dongle
>>102880645apple dongle is one of the cheapest
>>102880876Android shit is even cheaper.
>>102881052https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MW2Q3AM/A/usb-c-to-35-mm-headphone-jack-adapterit's literally $9 which is pocket change impulse buy tier, most people don't care if you can get some chink shit for less. especially years ago when there was less competition it looked impressive, not in absolute terms relative to top of the line stuff, but it was decent enough, btfoing most built in sound while being cheap.
>>102879274>it took time to get used to the extra dynamic rangeLmao
>>102878251if its good enough for speaker amps its good enough for your iems
MY TANCHJIM LUNA CRACKLES WTF IS THIS SHITi cant fucking win, time to concede and try the apple dongle
>just impulse-bought the last Shiroi figure in the shop
>>102882221did you get the anime version?
>>102882282yes, is that a problem??
>>102881396kys, shitty gaslighting troll, many /g/ anons and not just audiophiles are aware of the quality difference, anyone who has upgraded from motherboard audio to a proper DAC/amp can tell that there's a drastic difference
>>102880745bump, please give me a (You)
>>102865633>ITT: sex OSTshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80XAJKqRU9k
>>102880745>>102882405ZiiGaat Doscinco, Celest Relentless, Simgot SuperMix 4as far as>should be able to wear under hands-free call headsetNot many fit that criteria. They are going to stick out from your ear especially as you shop around your budget (they typically put more drivers inside, as opposed to cheaper, simpler IEMs). Also I don't really understand your use case. IEMs block out noise, and you are going to wear on-ear headset on top of them? That really won't be comfortable or functional
>>102882399Untrained people hear a difference from everything, even when nothing changed.
>>102882257You VILL order the turdear posYou VILL order the snow bunny figure
>>102882729literal schizo levels of cope, you're the wishful thinking tard from /dmp/ aren't you
anons totally despise popular music while liking bleep bloop video game music and old school german techno because that's all their audio gear can handle. you literally don't know what you're missing.
>>102882960This has literally been tested. They listed to the same thing twice and give it two different scores.
>>102883012https://archimago.blogspot.com/2019/05/blind-test-results-part-3-do-digital.html
>>102883018>no statistical significanceLiteral coin toss test, just like I said.
>>102883043cope
>>102882399>anyone who has upgraded from motherboard audio to a proper DAC/amp can tell that there's a drastic differenceAnd how many go>I can tell its better but its going to take me a while to get used to the increase in dynamic range
>>102883124when you get to literal endgame with maximum linearity, you have to adapt your frame of reference when adjusting the volume so the quiet parts seem too quiet but then the loud parts seem to loud. it's a retarded reddit fallacy from 10+ years ago to suggest that more dynamic range is always better as if the producers and mastering engineers are pants on head retarded.
shiiiiieeet i want what chuzo's smokin'
>>102883197Just consume all marketing material and then get excited for more marketing material.
>>102883218literally a $9 apple dongle will be better than your fucking motherboard audio
oh great the stupid apple cultist is back can we get a real nigga instead? chuzo was a real nigga this guy is just a bitch
>>102883223My motherboard audio is connected to laptop speakers and they sound better than chu2 with eq and a dongle, what now.
I really want to see a video blind testing external/dongle DAC tards with and without to see how they fair.
>>102883177>quiet parts seem too quiet but then the loud parts seem to loudIncreasing dynamic range doesn't make anything quieter or louder
>>102883307i have virtual speakers and it's laughable that you're using such rudimentary normiecore gear if you're not joking but you're probably not joking because you must have been keeping up this act for years by now with insane cope about how there's no difference but somehow i'm the one who's deaf and not you
>>102883322
>>102883325If your virtual speakers sound so good then why did you disable them. The real thing sounds much better, trust me, even if it's puny laptop speakers. Get creative pebbles and you'll throw your setup in the trash.
>>102883330Nothing does this. You hear extreme clipping distortion if this happens.
>>102883345
>>102883364Read the scale retardbro. It's for extremely quiet sounds.
>>102883370these ones are meant to be flat, it's relative level of the output vs the expected. pic related is better but not absolute perfection.
>>102883343speakers are obsolete, you can now get speaker sound out of any audio device by simply EQing to this target
>>102883386>these ones are meant to be flat,Yes, but you simply don't understand the graph. It's how the DAC resolves the least significant bits.
>>102883396the loudest part is rolled off, you might not listen to anywhere near 0 dBFS but then the least significant bits might start to matter
>>102883406>the loudest part is rolled offRead the scale retardbro.......
>>102883364I was commenting on dynamic range not linearity lmao
>>102883436He doesn't understand linearity.
Or dynamic range for that matter.
>>102883436>>102883438kys, dynamic range isn't only in the recording, it's only a handful of retarded schizos who still complain about dynamic range in 2024, because their audio gear doesn't do justiice to the recording, you're literally not hearing what the producer heard in studio on your fucking motherboard audio with laptop speakers, it's a fucking disgrace to think you have anything to say with regards to audiophilia when you can't even spare the $9 on an apple dongle
>>102883453It's a disgrace to have such a profound misunderstanding of the gear you're buying(in your case not buying). It's worse than cargo cult. You're given all the data but you're blind and deaf.
>>102883475i can literally hear issues with aliasing which the majority of audioengineering redditors admit they can't hear, you're the one who's deaf and oblivious to the importance of production quality in music
Listen to music, not linearity and aliasinghttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oX6UQMYFBMc&pp=ygUTdmV4IHJlZCB0aGUgY2xvc2VzdA%3D%3D
>>102883480>i can literally hear issues with aliasingYou don't know what aliasing is
>>102883502you think songwriting is 99% of the challenge in music production, you just need another 10 years of grinding your mozart skills and maybe then your career will take off!
>>102883480You can't hear anything. You see a picture and then you hallucinate what is shown on that picture. You can't hear until you see.
>>102883509Thanks for believing in me anon!
>>102883509>doesn't even argueLmao.
>>102883524>projectinglmao
>>102883528You literally didn't deny you don't know what aliasing is, I'm not writing your posts lmao.
total chuzo Wtotal shartur L
>>102883495Only real musichttps://youtu.be/I74BqCTpOJY
>>102883543digital audio aliasing is when you have frequencies that go above nyquist and reflect back below it. the most obvious would be from using a large amount of nonlinear effects like saturation which add harmonic frequencies to the original signal but many digital synths and plugins have a subtle harshness that not everyone is able to discern but many people who have heard top of the line analog synths in real life prefer the analog sound. many normies can also hear unpleasant harshness in low quality digital recordings even if they don't know what it specifically is.
>>102882471i'll pause music as i'm in calls and the headset is mono, i.e. only over one ear.noise cxl is just for general office noise, not having to listen in on nearby techs' calls, etc
>>102883805Might as well get a TWS
Quick word of advice to anyone considering the Moondrop May, replace the DSP cable. It has really bad feedback and distorts quite often. I've switched to a 3.5mm I had in storage and all the aforementioned problems stopped.
>>102884067I bought them like 2 months ago and haven't had any issues, getting the tips on were a fucking pain in the ass though
>>102864827The only way this person could look more trustworthy in their electronics advice would be if they wore a fursuit.
>>102884067>Taking out the only thing that makes that God awful pos listenable Moondrop sisters...
>>102884067MoonDROPPED
>>102864827Recently bough this one(Kiwi Ears Quartet), it's my first IEM and I really like them. What's your opinion on them? I don't see anyone talking about them...
>>102884337Tonality wise they're outstanding. I would be looking for better treble performance (smoother) at $200+ but they're not bad. Good extension at least.
>>102884337>>102884431>QuartetLmao nvm I read it as Quintet. Which setting?>that trebleAre your ears feeling alright anon? Do they hurt after extended use?
>>102884337Mogged by $10 2020 pos..
>>102884450Not at all. I use them to play the keyboard(jazz, soul, r&b) on small gigs, nothing too long. I'm not an expert on this field and the only reason I've bought them is because a friend of mine recommended them.
>>102879188>I selected a setting and it makes me feel good
You guys don't know shit about the real audiophile experience. Unless you've erected your own utility pole for clean power, be quiet, the geriatrics with hearing damage are talking.
What music do you guys even listen to to get this autistic about iems?
Am I about to cook or am I about to get cooked?>>102885317Me personally I listen to only the best goth music.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nJd9RYdqJ8
is dust filter really important? mine are sinking
>>102885349Eyo let me cook.
Best ear tips for decibel level reduction? I was previously using ear buds that had special triple flanged ear tips that also acted as ~25 decibel reducing ear plugs. Looking to get my hands on something that could block the same amount of noise or more. Anyone got any suggestions? Currenetly reading this for any other anon who is also curious about the world of IEMs :) https://www.headphonesty.com/2018/04/ultimate-guide-selecting-perfect-iem-ear-buds-tips/
>>102885560Dunu s&sIt makes traffic calmer
>>102885317Real musichttps://youtu.be/Hhag41dnNZA
Yikes.
>>102885719What am I yikes-ing about here?
>>102878372i do this often by accident, im so afraid im going to roll over and break something but i cant help listening to tunes when im sleepy they sound so good when im very sleepy
how do i know my pos db level?
>>102885781The sound.
>>102864827Help me out, I want to buy "endgame" 1DD ~$200 during 11.11. First thought would be EA1000 but shill me some alternatives (add what is their focus - vocal clarity, smoothness, allrounder etc).
>>102886075Falcon Ultra if you listen to electronic or pop
>>102885167I have the cleanest power possible - a battery. Some audiophiles have battery powered DACs but I got my whole setup battery powered.
>>102885478Kinda sad I got no replies on this.
>>102886075Embrace planar, and get S12 pro
>>102886265I already have Shozy P20 and with extra mesh filter reducing that annoying peak I wonder if I should even go to that $200 DD.
>>102886246Why did you buy that pos...
>>102886075Fox IEM.
>>102885317I want to put it on the record that I was autistic about music before I was about iems, collecting CDs, browsing, and writing RYM reviews way too seriously and shit, to keep my eyes peeled for anything with an interesting cover at a store. Lingua Ignota's CALIGULA was what started it all, but I believe it was Untrue or Downward Spiral that got me to buy a pair of Chus. Now, my taste has a lot more angst, with Emo and Post-Hardcore being what I love the most at the moment.https://youtu.be/ySI-dejPQ5Q?si=1JUwDg7ED-omuApU
>>102886287how does it sound
>>102886344Does it come with a buttplug and programming socks?
>>102885317Hanabie and metal vtubers. Try minmaxing this shit for optimal sonics.
>>102885964Without a calibrated mic? Good luck. You can get an approximate level if you know the sensitivity of your IEMs, the output voltage of your source and the dynamic range of your music.
>>102886361Like nothing else I've tried. You have elevated bass (not that detailed but far from muddy), vocals are bit on warmer side but elevated and extended high end makes cymbals stand out (they are thinner though, not Raptgo aluminium foil level thin but not BA sharp). It's not classic U, it's not V. They are very tip dependent and I can't find balanced configuration - it's either better controlled bass with thinner air region or weightier and more balanced top but muddier low end.
>>102886467that's my gripe with planars, they make cymbals stand out too much and too thin, also an artificial bright "atmosphere" that plagues the whole sound
>>102886506I share the sentiment. I like hybrids the most for this. Single DD just lacks that BA bite.I was able to make P20 sound "natural" for cymbals with correct tips but at the cost of blurrier percussion strikes.Overall interesting set, definitely worth keeping for that 50% msrp.
>>102886306What else was I supposed to buy?
>>102886075Avoid shrillgot if you value smoothness.
>>102885478What Sliivo did you get? SL4? SLT6?
>>102885167In Japan that also means his own transformer.
>>102886783the EA500LM is very smooth, no peaks or jaggies
>>102885317Sega Genesis chiptunes.
>>102886840Sl41 MK2
>>102886860It's extremely sibilant.
I hate this fat gaslighting prick and his sect it's unreal.
Imagine hating on a based autist, eww
>burger salesman>autistLmao.
>>102867248>>102867302their naming is just fucked up, it looks nothing like the previous DK3001, why would they name it like that?>>102878251The aplel dongle certainly look more chink than the chinkest of chink dongles. Chink CX31993look like a premium product in comparison
>>102886957Go suck his short dick in yt comment section. Remember to like share subscribe and buy his shit.
>>102886970CX looks better but the hiss makes it unusable. There are better dongles with a similar look.
>>102886941If you're talking about me and my sliivo, I don't watch this dude and I didn't get it because of him.
>>102883645>frequencies that go above nyquistnot just that, frequencies that are just straight below nyquist cause aliasing too, that's why so many vintage samplers sound so digital and crunchy which some people love for its sound character while others hate it for being lo-fi
>>102886917edgy and shouty, but not really sibilant, with the 5k bump being just loud but not piercing/peaky per se, so the smoothness is still there although it is tiring
>>102887173Took me 3 seconds to say okay that's enough.
>>102885349>>102885478where did you buy this from? which site?also, out of these two, which tips do you prefer?
>>102885478So uhhh.>Sliivo Sl41 MK2Some reviewer said the color is blacker irl than on the images, which I was hoping for, but is not true. Cable is great. Good sound. A lot of separation and details that I didn't notice before. I'm not sure if it's a treble monster or not though. I hear a lot of percussion. Kick drums are also quite strong. I tried AutoEQ and applied the Harman target one. Took care of the treble but the sound is now a bit boring and also too familiar. That's how I have my headphones EQ'd after all and I immediately recognized the signature. I'm not sure if I should take the EQ out and just enjoy the different sound.>Divinus VelvetThese are scam. Gaping my ear holes. Short and wide. Can't use them.>Dunu S&SSmallest size fits nicely I think. Gotta use them for longer but I might stick with them, unless there are other recs I can try for small ears.>FiiO KA15This is great but as you'd expect the app is garbage. The KA15 isn't even listed as a device in there. I can't use it all with the app. Not sure how reviewers can. Maybe it's because I'm not letting the app access my location and device listening or whatever? Then again they shouldn't need that for a fucking dongle DAC. The KA15 isn't in the list when you try to add a device manually anyways.So fuck the app, but has any FiiO drone used the website control page with the EQ? It connects and I updated the firmware, but I can't save EQ settings. Anyone know how this shit works?>>102887234I saw hifigo in the OP so I just tried that. Didn't get charged for customs somehow in yurop and shipping was rather quick. Divinus gape my ears. I can't wear them. S&S are good. I saw some reviewer say they mold to your ear canal's shape somewhat with time. I think I'd prefer the shape of something like >>102868015 though.
>>102887305Fiio'd
>>102887173Took some time but glad to see at least one of the shrill simps finally concede that "yes, it sounds like it graphs" even though you are still trying to gaslight stupid people into buying it.
>>102886986>higher OI than apple dong (it's still a non-issue tho)>hiss>tacky designit's so over >There are better dongles with a similar lookwhich ones? fiio, jcally, ugreen, are the same hiss or buggy crap
>>102887412Jcallys are better, no hiss.
Does anyone know how to use this fiio web based epq shit? Why is not letting me save my changes?
>>102886362No and you can't buy it until you get them.
>The liquid silicone employed in the HS20 German food-grade LFGB certified, is a testament to its high quality and safety.wtf is "liquid silicone"? is it the same thing as regular silicone???
>>102885026They don't get discussed much because they don't graph great (dashed line in my pic >>102884450 is current best population average neutral target, if its not near the target then it won't get rec'd often).>I use them to play the keyboardI assume you have somewhat easy access to EQ then? If so make up your own mind by trying different tunings. There's an EQ guide in OP but you don't need all of it to get started, just a tool like https://graph.hangout.audio/iem/5128/ with AutoEQ and some PEQ software.
>>102887653Glass is a liquid
>>102887653food grade LGBT certified? sign me up
>>102887610please respond...
>>102887923I returned my ka17 before I got to fiddle with EQ. Try headfi or reddit, they have more patience for such bullshit.
>>102888020I only like 4chan. I don't wanna go on those. I'd return the KA15 just because of this too, but the other features are ok and I don't wanna deal with waiting again. Surely they'll fix it with a software update next week right?
Which target do you guys like using?
>>102888142>forgot imageEvery time.
>>102886155how do you power your computer, it seems for a desktop computer you can't use a normal PSU or there's too much electrical buzzing noise (not in the audio signal but mechanically, not necessarily high pitch coil whine but 50/60hz buzzing at least on 230V)
>>102888142Haram man 2019 + less 5kHz + more subbass + remove treble peaks by ear + adjust treble level by ear.
>>102888197What is a computer?
>>102887366if anything, it does not sound deeply V-shaped like on the graph at all, instead it's more U-shaped with transparent mids, so yeah, the graph is irrelevant in its case
new bread >>102888305
>>102888142
>>102888142>targetlol, lmao even
Which IEM/headphone do you suggest for someone with tinnitus? I play piano/keyboards and when I do some gigs I have to wear some sort of headphone but I'd like to avoid damaging my ears any further.
