i will be purchasing a 5090 and building a PC for my sister who wants to play games

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>>102859977
Haha, and here I am asking my sister for the used dell latitude that I bought her. Haha... Am I a good brother?

>>102859953
Anime truly is the worst thing to happen to young men.

>>102859977
your sister will think you're a fucking loser

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>>102860021
We are better than faggots and animu is cuter than fat pigs.

>>102859639
please despond

>>102860048
that’s her problem not mine

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>>102859977
You know what to do.

>>102860059
>wingay
Are you retarded anon? Why do you want wingay?

>>102859953
FEET

>>102860021
It's a symptom, not a disease.

Should I go for a triple fan 4070S or will a dual fan config work fine for that GPU?

>>102860059
The answer is unfortunately still a lot on Windows, it's still the same bullshit since the beginning of CCDs.
>Xbox bar or whatever the fuck it's called required for correct core delegation
>process lasso often required as well
>stuttering when tabbing in/out of games sometimes
>potentially trips some kernel anti-cheats according to some reports (could be outdated)
these are potential problems, not saying that you will necessarily experience them. If you need a best of both worlds CPU that does work and play, the 7950X3D is the one if you can manage some wrangling.
otherwise 7800X3D basically just works because it's hardware level management. Linux on the other hand has essentially no issues managing the dual CCDs, but then again you're not really running multimedia tasks on Linux kek

>>102860179
I'm a 7950x3d enjoyer and I don't use any of that shit and the 4k gaming can't get any better

>>102860215
I'm honestly just relaying what I've heard and seen. I'm very interested to hear your experiences.

>>102860265
I'm running the latest bios and windows, maybe that helps, but I haven't found a game which dips below 120fps at 4k and honestly that's what I wanted out of it. It's paired with a 4090. When I was deciding what to buy I saw the same reports about the ccds and I almost got the 7800x3d but I use the pc for video editing and I really appreciate the cores. I upgrade every 6 years or so I wanted something which will last. I know it costs lots but I like it. There might be better ones soon to be honest.

>>102860128
Which ever is cheaper, or save monies and get the s ti.

i'm so glad i upgraded this year bros. been enjoying games so much. i feel like i've already gotten my moneys worth since march

>>102860406
I feel like I should have bought my pc sooner, it would have saved me so much more time, I would have tried more things, like build VMs and such.

bros my pc doesnt boot with EXPO enabled, the post status checker led stops at CPU what do I do
it worked fine for two months after assembling

>>102860507
Update the BIOS if you haven't. This shit should be on the OP.

>>102860519
would that really do anything?
last updates for my bios are mostly about compatibility with 9000 series, i got 7950

>>102860379
Obviously dual fans is cheaper.

>>102860507
X3D?
Early BIOS versions would cook the IOD due to out of spec SoC voltage. Some of them would explode.
Chip might in the pre-fucked state by now.

Will a 7800X3D easily handle an RTX 5090?

>>102860577
>would that really do anything?
Look at this smartass. Use a search engine next time.
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/explorer/diy-builder/memory/why-you-should-care-about-amd-agesa-updates/#:~:text=The%20big%20takeaway%20for%20all,support%20and%20faster%20operating%20frequencies.

>>102860692
yes that's a fine combo

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For undervolting do you just move some sliders in afterburner or do I need to do some bios fuckery?

>>102860715
You just need to move 3 sliders for GPU OC+UV in AB, including memory frequency slider.
https://github.com/LunarPSD/NvidiaOverclocking/blob/main/Nvidia%20Overclocking.md

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>>102859977
Breed.
>>102860021
Newfa- friend..
>>102860692
It bottlenecks the 4090, thanks to industry wide lazy and incompetent devs not optimising. Don't think it'll be any better with a better card.

>>102859953
if my pc wasn't on the floor, I might consider sticking a Noid figure on the inside(the ones I have, have suction cups on the hands)

>wake up from my 2 year waitfag hibernation cycle
>"oh boy time to see if the new GPUs are worth buying"
>RTX 5070 - $699 with 12GB of VRAM
>go back to sleep, my 970 will continue to stand strong

>>102860912
>my 970
that's rough

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>>102860912
I do not understand this obsession with VRAM. The only reason we're seeing more VRAM usage than necessary is because of incompetent devs and UE5 slop. Game devs are actually retarded and don't optimise for shit, because they hire women and niggers now. You don't need a huge amount of VRAM for any well made game, even 8gb is enough.

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>>102860991
tfw playing cyberpunk with ray tracing and using 10gb of vram

tfw playing TLOU pt 1 and using 12gb of vram

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>>102861012
ANON, I SAID GOOD GAMES!

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furby themed pc when

>>102861150
Be the change you want to see.

>>102859472
The PSU is also brand new
I'll try swapping the rams in other slots, and taking out and putting back in the CPU, but things ain't lookin good

Was in normal for older generations of computer hardware to melt/explode/rust/catch fire due to motherfuckturer negligence or do we just live in an especially fallen, cursed age?

>>102860991
Haha... If only we had competent people... Haha.

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update on my AOC 25G3ZM monitor cope about high minimum brightness
turing color red/green/blue down to e.g. 25/25/25 from 50/50/50 will have the effect of making it less bright so you don't need to adjust the contrast in the graphics card driver software. it doesn't crush RGB(1,1,1) blacks or RGB(254,254,254) whites. set "gamma 3" and then use the gamma slider in windows built in calibration tool to get it almost perfectly neutral. then you change red/green/blue to e.g. 50/50/50 when you want normal brightness and maximum contrast. in AMD adrenalin there's a counter intuitive name for a setting, set color temperature control to disabled and it does some wizardry to emulate sRGB quite accurately even though it's natively a wide gamut display.

>>102860991
that's why nvidia is right to not add more vram. the more you add, the less optimized things will get and will end up end up at exactly the same argument once again

>>102860614
yes x3d
i had second to latest bios and the latest bios description says
>Update AMD AGESA 1.2.0.0a Patch A for Ryzen 9000 CPU performance optimized.
so I didnt bother updating when I assembled my pc
>>102860704
i guess i wlll update to the latest bios but keep expo disabled and see how it goes
i also ran memtest with expo disabled and it seems everything is okay

buy 4070 super on blackd friday or wait for 5070 ?

>>102861296
Wait so you bought a psu & then your gpu started having issues?
Or is it like an entirely new pc build?
I'm starting to get a little confused

>>102861694
>i had second to latest bios and the latest bios description says
Then the BIOS won't be the issue.

>>102861728
always wait if you don't have games.
if you have games, buy now.

intel chips out yet? I need to upgrade and want cheaper chips .

>>102861741
I bought a new PSU, GPU and Cooler (for the cpu) after my pc broke (the gpu fans weren't even moving anymore)

The fans of the new gpu move, it just doesn't display anything on the screen

how in the fuck is 7950X3D almost half again the price of a 14900K?
when did AMD become the premium brand?

>>102861872
When ryzen killed intel.

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>>102861040
I like those games

>>102861872
The moment amd stop launching Ryzen 3

>>102861872
>when did AMD become the premium brand?

November 5, 2020

>>102861334
Yes to a degree.
There was some pretty tragic eras in hardware like the capacitor plague era and the introduction of lead free solder, as well as just general unreliability with certain select hardware.

If it seems like times are especially bad it's because hardware is getting more expensive but reliability isn't matching it. If your $200 GPU died 20 years ago, you're more likely to outright replace it because it wasn't that expensive to begin with and you can probably find it cheaper if it's a year or two into being released.

Nowadays everything has just blown past inflation in price, any breakage now stings. If your $1000 GPU dies, your not going to find a cheap replacement. Your are now reliant on arguably very hostile companies that don't like doing RMAs to having a working GPU.
Something can be said about the modern internet making failures much more public and viral as compared to forums where hardware is discussed.

>>102861818
they cot more/the same

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When will the RTX 5090 be announced? What are the chances it gets scalped because of AI demand?

>>102861929
>GPU died 20 years ago
anon if my GV-N68U256D died I would have RMAd that bastard because I wasn't a poorfag back then either

>just don't buy from shitty vendors

>>102861962
Early January and low

>>102861728
The Vanilla 5000 series will if rumors are even close to true, be historically underspecced and a godawful bait for early adopters before the SUPER Refresh actually gives a meaningful price/performance advancement. I'd buy a 4070S on a BF deal if available, otherwise you're waiting a year or so for the 5070S to come out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvL-Mplhog8

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the 'midlife crisis PC build' is a growing market segment, huh?

>>102862094
>that will be 450$

>>102862094
does Seasonic even make a good PSU? i thought their bread and butter were the cheap PSUs that come bundled with low-end cases

>>102861728
waitfagging for 50 series has a good chance at disappointment and regret since they're apparently stopping production of some of their models

>>102861871
Did you try a different PCIE slot on mobo?
it's unlikely both PSUs are broken, did you try the old one?
Maybe you got the unlucky combination of an old broken gpu and a new broken psu

>>102862174
What? Did you confuse seasonic with fsp? Seasonic is the premium psu manufacturer and they mostly do retail and indistrial, sometimes manufacturing top tier models for other brands.

>>102862174
Seasonic is a higher-end PSU manufacturer, with their better units on a 12-year warranty.
You don't see their consumer PSUs recommended here often because the market's competitive and there are more affordable options that are good enough.

>>102862154
Anon, the regular TX-1600 costs $600
Now add the price of brown paint on top

>>102861728
If the 4070 super magically sells for around the lower $400 range I'll return my 7800xt and buy that instead. I'm not spending more than $500 for a GPU. But I doubt Nvidia will be that generous.

After a year of weekly crashes and then multiple times daily for a month on idle/low load and now 2 months without crashes I can safely conclude that it was AMD's C-states that caused it. Not a single crash since I turned it off in the bios.

>>102862293
If every fan of the PC turns on fine, including the GPU, I wouldn't assume the PSU is the issue. I'll try stuff tonight, if it doesn't work I'll ask a friend with a car to bring me to a repair shop or something

My main suspect would be the motherboard's GPU slot, my old card was very heavy and might have bent it. I hope it's not that though, I don't have the money for a new motherboard right now especially if I also spend in a shop

Thanks anyways, I'll try different PCIEs in the meantime

>>102862367
>expects a 150$ sale instead of them stopping production
good laugh

Hello I want an opinion.

I wanna build a PC around a SAPPHIRE 16GB RX 7800 XT that I can find relatively cheap at a local store.
Should I build it with 16 GB of DDR5 ram or 32 GB of DDR4 Ram?

How should I choose a processor? I see way too many options but I don't know at what point I'm overspending

>>102860103
Kill yourself

>>102862442
if you live in a decent country, you could return the GPU/PSU & get a new mobo instead

which is faster with quality upscaling at 1440p - 4070S or 7900GRE? choosing between cheap two fan 4070S or decent 7900GRE.

>>102862460
I live on an island and the pieces had to come here by ship, I haven't even asked but I would assume it's not possible
Also my old card was kinda ass, so I'd rather keep the 4060 and save a month or two to upgrade motherboard/cpu/whatever is the issue.

>>102862472
Forgot to mention i dont care about RT.

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>>102862314
gotcha maybe i did get them confuse
>i am slow to boot today
>remembering some old shitbox P4 i built for a neighbor
>shitty tower case that would warp if picked up funny
>shitty PSU that felt like it was completely empty inside
>the fukken' PSU popped its filter cap right next to me
>just as I was done installing Windows
>mfw

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>>102862337
>12-year warranty

>>102859953
the residue line on her leg is really messing with me, anon could've made the effort to fix her

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>>102860103
>>102862458

>>102862451
AM4 X3D is still perfectly fine.

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>>102859953
Why you need to put cheap bootleg anime toy inside case? Or even turn on light At all. I love anime, but it's bad thing to do. PC should be black box under the table. Too bad there's no case without windows that can fit big components.

>>102862451
5700x3d (135 on ali) or 7600(x)
If you don't have old parts (ddr4 ram, am4 motherboard, etc.) I'd personally build with the 7600 so you have new parts & can upgrade in the future more easily/cheaply

>>102862451
no one regrets having more RAM

>>102862314
>Seasonic is the premium psu manufacturer
Are they tho?
To buy a seasonic PSU nowadays basically requires faith.

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>>102862663
non-based attempted minimalist shitposter has visible spectrum of light emanating from their fishtank case

>false prophet

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>>102862663
>Too bad there's no case without windows that can fit big components.
Ahem
These ones too
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BtGbt6/
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qBn8TW/
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LbHqqs/

>>102862451
Start with the CPU first. The 5700X3D hits the sweet spot for the 7800 xt. But be warned there are no more upgrade paths for am4 mobos so you're stuck with the 5000 series. As for ram, 32gb ddr4 3200 mhz minimum.

>>102860179
Why don't people just get a 7950x then? I have one and it's great.

>>102862174
they have/had a good reputation but were ironically the ones with the most reports of coil whine (corsair used a bunch of different OEMs so they nooticed). especially in EU with 230V 50hz you might notice a lower pitch transformer buzz if you have low ambient noise but the flextronics manufactured models like AX760i/AX860i actually had little to no high pitch coil whine. there is a ticking noise from the fan testing every 10 seconds but you can fix that with a fan swap.

>>102862794
Last one looks really nice desu. If I had the dosh for a new building I'd consider buying it but that wouldn't be in another 4 years for a refresh.

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>>102862794

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2YdcL9

You guys built me this computer for WoW. But now I'm getting into Game Development (Unity), is this PC still good for that or do I need some upgrades?

>>102862908
more than enough for gamedev

>>102862663
pc building is all about customization and adding anime and rgb to your pc is extremely customization

I have 3 possible builds for a gaming pc on full hd, depending on how black friday turns out but i need help with cpu
>best case scenario i got a good price for 5700x3d and thats it(huge tax on ali here)
If 5700x3d is too expensive i have to choose between i5 1200f and r5 5600, i think both will be enough for me so i'm just looking for any pros/cons not talked much about some of them, since in gaming benchmarks and stuff they tend to avg the same
Also i tend to leave the pc on for long periods, in terms of durability or power usage anything worth knowing?

Do you think those new intel cards will outperform AMD?

>>102862882
for me it's the second, front IO good, top IO bad & crumb/dust magnet

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>>102863001
>is extremely

Not happy with my Meshify 2, never falling for the airflow meme again.

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On my old pc i could put a pci card on top of the graphics card (picrel) but my new one only has pci slots under the pci expresss slot
How badly could a pci soundcard under a gpu hinder its cooling due to reduced airflow? Would it harm performance noticeably?
Best regards

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>>102863061
what kind of retarded question was that?

>intel "cards"?

>>102862908
yes, it's great for that
other development, you might want a different CPU, but you'll likely spend a lot of time in unity in the test scene and that'll stress more similar to a game

>>102862071
Video is retarded
Cores != performance
Just like VRAM != performance
Specs on paper != performance

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>>102863092
you'll be fine. the manufacturer built the card to a standard and as long as none of your cabling or anything else keeps the fans from spinning the GPU will be OK

>as long as your case has decent airflow of course

>>102862071
>AMDUnboxed

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>>102863117
kek

>corepoors

>>102863127
>AMDUnboxed
>weekly Zen5 hit piece for two months straight
lmao

>>102863134
Fuck off larper, and take than Xeon you dug out of a trashheap with you.

>>102862873
>especially in EU with 230V 50hz you might notice a lower pitch transformer buzz
Now that is interesting. Any other cases like this? Been thinking of getting an 850w.

>>102863140
You know its bad when amdunboxed is throwing shades at zendoa5

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>>102863147
no.

>also no

>>102863148
maybe DC offset in the electricity coming from the wall, i noticed a slight improvement with a four stage EMI filter / DC blocker and some audiophiles have used DC blockers

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/g/eniuses ,for the pciE 5.0, will using an m.2 complete rending it useless for GPU or will you be able to run GPU at 5.0 and m.2 at a lower speed
>assuming all 3 m.2 are used

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>>102863140
even in "bad" amd video, they still are bias toward amd. like what the fuck is even an asseto corsa. they never benchmarked the game in previous videos and they only did it now so zen5 looks slightly better than it really is.

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>>102863202
don't any of you anons condition your incoming power?

>>102863239
Pure sine AVR is too much money

>>102863239
does it dispense ice too or just water?

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>>102862648
>>102862674
>>102862686
>>102862798
Hey guys it's me again.

How's this build looks, it's what the store is offering me with the 7800XT. Forgive the spicness
How does this looks

>>102863117
correct, that increase in core counts has not reflected in performance gains during ampere especially when nvidia change the definition of the shaders multiple times
now stop coping and making blanket assumptions that they compensated, we had this during kepler
>>102863127
cope

>>102859953
PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP
GET PREGNANT
GET PREGNANT
GET PREGNANT

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>>102863257
at least get a line interactive (trim/boost)?

>>102863265
it dispenses the pure juicy goodness of making sure my cat picture box shuts down gracefully

>show us your UPS, shitpostanon

>>102863275
¿Irás con 32 GB de RAM?

>>102863275
I personally think buying any AM4 CPU other than a 5700x3d off ali or in the ABSOLUTE pennypinching scenario, a 5600(x) is a mistake. How much are you paying for that in comparison to this? https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3256806921974699.html
16gb is workable but I absolutely would not build a system with it nowadays, 32gb just allows you to not have to worry about ram every single fucking time you do anything
MAG A-BN is "okay", not good. See if you could get a better one from this list https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/ without spending an exorbitant amount
that CPU cooler is unknown, but it looks pretty bulky, is 120mm & has 4 pipes so should be okay at the very least

>>102863339
>>show us your UPS, shitpostanon
I don't have one because I live in a first world country, anon.
I have maybe one unannounced power outage a year, if even that

>>102862663
Are you serious? There's tons of cases without windows.

>>102863366
It's two sets of 16gb ram, the image didn't show the quantities because I cropped them. My b

I am alittle bit lost on that tier list. How do I know which one matches the build I'm trying to go for?

Hey /g/
I have an MSI MPG B550 gaming plus mobo and a Ryzen 7 5800X3d cpu. I also have a 6900xt GPU and 32 GB RAM.
I bought another M.2 SSD for the second slot. I installed it. In Bios setting the mobo recognizes it but when I boot into the OS I can't see any drive in This Computer folder.
I was thinking a bios update might help. The thing is I suspect only one BIOS version supports 5800x3d. The mobo natively supports older CPUs.
I want to know if I am wrong or right in wanting to update it.

Is 'Goodram' ram good? It's cheap as fuck compared to the big brands.

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here's your reliable storage from a reputable brand bro

>>102863504
never heard of it

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>>102863384

muh "sUpErIor fIrSt wOrld" cun-treee yeeeeee-fukin' haw.

anyway me too

>three decades in IT
>4 UPS units in my non-poorfag house
>/consoomeranon/ projects his insecurities on a furfag frogposting board with its festering cum-encrusted cakehole agape over a drool encrusted /glowie/ RGB keyboard

having a UPS and having to replace battery is the same as buying car or whatever insurance, don't you think, anons? your gear is a depreciating asset, insurance should be part of the spend

>it's easy to figure out the capacity you need if you want a UPS
>even /poors/ can do a small local UPS
>inb4 "use an electric car as a powerbank hurrr /consoom/"

>>102863336
plastic can't get pregnant

>>102863504
Brand from slavland, been around for a long while, never heard anything particularly bad about it. Would buy over K*ngston any day.
The actual RAM inside is Hynix or Micron anyway.

>>102863467
>How do I know which one matches the build I'm trying to go for?
The higher the better. Like I said, anything in tier C (that has enough Wattage for your buildà is okay but I like to try and get at least a tier B unless in an absolute budget build.
>It's two sets of 16gb ram
I would recommend against this unless it's significantly cheaper. There's a chance they won't work well together and work at their rated speeds. Yes, even though they're "identical". If you can get 2x16gb instead of two 2x8 sets.

>>102863504
It's mostly meaningless, there's basically only 3 companies that make the actual RAM parts that matter and everyone just slaps them on and brands it with their own shit.
>>102863502
Do you use your third PCIE slot (second big one from the top?
NVMe apparently disables that one but maybe some setting is turned on to make it the opposite way?

>>102863636
Not with that attitude.

>>102863630
>>/consoomeranon/ projects his insecurities on a furfag frogposting board with its festering cum-encrusted cakehole agape over a drool encrusted /glowie/ RGB keyboard
are you good anon?
I've seen a lot of projecting but that's very intense

>>102859953
Isn't her ass gonna melt on the backplate?

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>>102863467
diviértete /reconfortante/ anon

/moar/ ram tiene mejor rendimiento, sin importar el sistema operativo que le pongas

>>102863649
>Do you use your third PCIE slot (second big one from the top?
No, I don't use it. I can't. The 6900xt is so big it covers it.

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How the HELL do i do maintenance on a liquid cooler? Ive had this for years and ive always been afraid to dissassemble it

>>102863232
no one?

>>102862094
I'm gonna buy this and probably never buy another PSU till I die.

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>>102863659
>good anon
you bet

>pic very related.
just here to shitpost and help all the clueless faggot /anons/. like what the fuck happened to cableanon while i was in the /furpile/?

>>102863691
>carefully remove it
>throw it in the trash
>install an air cooler

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>>102863339
NTA but I used to have a UPS on my desktop but I think I killed it with the inrush of my 1200w PSU, 900w realistically wasn't enough with my setup anyways.
I got a warranty replacement and I use it on my NAS now, it has a 1300w PSU but not nearly as bad inrush (it's also not turned off/on as much.)

A 1500w or 2000w UPS is too much bones for the privilege of doing something semi important during a hurricane

>>102863743
Honestly i agree and i bought air cooling for my new pc
But i already have this liquid cooler on the old one so... do i have to buy coolant liquid? I assume the car type doesnt work for this

>>102863691
Also why the fuck are you running a single memory module.

>>102863691
is there an actual problem with the performance of it?

>don't break it, anon

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>>102863757
kek'd at the overload

>got a new PSU and forgot about your weak-assed old UPS didn't ya, anon

>>102863366
>How much are you paying for that in comparison to this?
Much less, considering Shipping and about %19 in customs.

The kssue is that the 5700x3D boosts the price for the equivalent of roughly $75, is it THAT big a deal?
>>102863649
>I would recommend against this unless it's significantly cheaper. There's a chance they won't work well together and work at their rated speeds. Yes, even though they're "identical". If you can get 2x16gb instead of two 2x8 sets.
No, I meant it 2 sticks of 16gb, for 32gb of ddr4 ram total

>>102863689
Did you check disk management? Maybe it needs to be partitioned/formated before it shows up?
I'd be surprised if it's a bios thing

>>102863691
From everything I've seen & heard about it, AIO coolers are basically disposable
It's not worth the effort and if you try to fuck with it you'll likely regret it
Use it until it stops working well and then buy a new one, I'm not even joking

>>102863766
I doubt it has a serviceable refill port anyway, and if you take it apart, you will never put it back together again with the same level of leak-proofness.

>>102863797
>Much less, considering Shipping and about %19 in customs.
>The kssue is that the 5700x3D boosts the price for the equivalent of roughly $75, is it THAT big a deal?
How much is this one? https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005057753702.html
Also, how much is 12100(f)/12400(f) in your country in comparison to the 5700x?
It's hard to advice on parts when you don't know how much shit costs there

is 225€ a good price for a 3060 12GB

>>102863769
Is it bad? Its 8gb of ram or so

>>102863809
Thanks anon. I... I love you.

>>102863942
It's slower than a 6600XT, might as well wait for the 5060.

You guys are gonna regret upgrading when the 5060 card is gonna be a 60+% improved performance equivalent to a 4090 like in 2016.

>>102864107
Go flip some burgers.

Any motherboard manufacturer out there that DOESN'T try to push a rootkit/backdoor/killswitch to your windows install via WPBT?

>>102860873
>7800 x3d bottlenecks 4090
Kek what the fuck is wrong with modern devs

>>102864038
You're welcome, glad you didn't start fucking around with bios because that might have gone badly for you
Enjoy the new space
>>102864107
anyone waiting for any 50 series card other than people who have far too much money to care will likely be disappointed. The people with that amount of money don't worry about buying a 4090 now & a 5090 on release

>>102859953
If I don't game much but will game occassionally while working on 3D models, is the Acer Nitro in the Monitor section good enough?
The main games are just FFXIV and Honey Select honestly, along with some 4x games.

How much do you have to budget for a custom water cooling thing? Is it hard to put the block on the gpu?

>>102864310
Like an extra grand to two grand depending how batshit you want to go for it.

No it is not that hard if you get one meant for your GPU.

>>102864345
That's more expensive than I thought. I guess it's not really worth it. I just don't like the aio look that much.

>>102864373
>the aio look
not that they can't work for the less /aspergers/

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Nvmes are fucking complicated man. Dealt with so many issues with them compared to SATA.
>They require a heatsink
>Even if you use a heatsink they can still overheat from the size difference of the onboard chips
>They need firmware updates
>Using certain Windows versions causes Nvme issues
>There's hidden Nvme driver updates to get their max performance and features
>Having the wrong BIOS config makes the nvme run at full power at all times making it idle at 70C
>Faulty power management on certain Nvme controllers can make them go to sleep and never wake up until you fully power cycle them
>Reviewers get paid and free products to gloat how fast they all are in benchmarks but not how god awful they are to use in reality

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reminder to overclock your RAM
https://factoriobox.1au.us/map/info/4c5f65003d84370f16d6950f639be1d6f92984f24c0240de6335d3e161705504

>>102864421
>>They require a heatsink
they don't
>>Even if you use a heatsink they can still overheat from the size difference of the onboard chips
Maybe if you get the crazy fast ones
>They need firmware updates
Says who, never updated it
>>Using certain Windows versions causes Nvme issues
W11 LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
>There's hidden Nvme driver updates to get their max performance and features
Sheesh, even more performance? Thanks
>>Having the wrong BIOS config makes the nvme run at full power at all times making it idle at 70C
So don't be a retard?
>>Faulty power management on certain Nvme controllers can make them go to sleep and never wake up until you fully power cycle them
?
>>Reviewers get paid and free products to gloat how fast they all are in benchmarks but not how god awful they are to use in reality
NVMe's JUST WORK

>>102864421
I've never had issues, is this the pcie5 ones or something?

https://x.com/GlobalLianli/status/1846915711752389115
HOW

>>102864650
https://youtu.be/iLdzNLb7jJ4?t=417

>>102864650
abject retardation
gaymers need to be gassed

>>102864650
also buy an ad

>windows doesn't have a performance team anymore
>Intel doesn't have a gaming optimization department anymore
>easy generational process improvements are gone for good
>the AI boom money that was used to wring every last bit of performance out of silicon is going to dry up when Trump gets elected and (((they))) stop pretending there's no recession and let it all crash and burn
grim
is this it?
is this as good as it gets?

>>102864650
>>102864688
Doesn't all these shit cause wireless signal intereference?

>>102864786
idk nigga you tell me

>>102863942
it is if new

Im wanting to buy the new X3D cpu and 50 series. I'll only need like 2 M.2 slots, be able to OC, and fastest ram possible.

What motherboards should I be looking for?

>>102861907
that’s so reddit!

Is there any website that compares the noise profile/temperature of different gpu coolers?

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>>102864915
you shouldn't go above 6400 MHz on AM5
you can't meaningfully OC a 7800X3D/9800X3D
just get a solid B650 board

>>102861914
Ryzen 3 is only viable when they have issues with yields and have a lot of silicon that doesn’t pass inspection. Those Zen 2 yield issues gave us bargain CPUs like the 3100 and the 3600 (non X) that were nothing but CCDs with only 2 or 3 decent functional cores. They didnt cut good silicon to make those bargains. It was just bad silicon. Yields have been much better since Zen 3 and therr really hasn’t been enough failed chips to sells as Ryzen 3

>>102864968
won't 9800X3D have unlocked clocks

https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-develops-industrys-first-24gb-gddr7-dram-for-next-generation-ai-computing

NVIDIA WON AND OUTINNOVATING THE INFERIOR COMPETITION

>>102864984
if it has "unlocked clocks" it's already going to do well at stock
AMD's boost system is very good, it hasn't been worth it to OC since ryzen 3000
undervolting maybe, but that's a pain in the ass because you get random reboots at idle if you go too far

>>102859953
>Fishtanks
Is the o11 no good anymore?

>>102864968
How do you know what a solid b650 board is? And why not get the new x870?

>>102865095
>>How do you know what a solid b650 board is?
the usual, watch some reviews, look for boards with features you need, etc
allegedly asrock has some very good boards on AM5
>And why not get the new x870?
because you only need 2 M.2 slots

How exactly do you test psu cables? If I've mixed them up what do I do with my multimeter to make sure I have the right ones?

Please help

I bought an MSI x670e with new 7700 Ryzen, new DDR5 ram and a new PSU.
Thing won't update the BIOS and won't boot. Started RMA process for the piece of shit but don't know what to replace it with. Bought it so I could host 2 3090s + have a riser for more.
Can anyone tell me what would be better/actually fucking work?

>>102864994
Those 24Gb GDDR7 chips are in testing. Mass production won't start until '25.
>Validation for the 24Gb GDDR7 in next-generation AI computing systems from major GPU customers will begin this year, with plans for commercialization early next year.
>'will begin this year'
>'this year'
>Oct. 17 '24 press release
It's a paper announcement to count this as an achievement in investor reports.

>>102865125
>If I've mixed them up
why

>>102865174
Because none of them even label them, they could at least bother to put the brand on them at the very least, and for some reason they both fit.

>>102865125
>>102865189
Is this mixup from the same vendor?
Use the below references to check if the mixed cables won't cause problems.
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/s/psu-cable-compatibility
https://cablemod.com/compatibility/

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Probably a bit of a niche question, but:
Any recommendations on a Linux compatible USB handbrake for sim racing?
I think some of the generic ones on Amazon/Ebay may "just work" but it may be a bit of a toss up, or require a bit of setup.

>>102865022
o11 vision compact is peak fish tank. unfortunately its hard to put anime figures since its not a case like hyte where the bottom has a shroud

>>102865133
Anecdotally, my worst experiences with bad QC have also been MSI, on multiple occasions. The only time I've ever had components be DOA have been MSI both times, one motherboard and one GPU.
Not sure what to recommend you though, I'd stay fairly brand agnostic because they're all just out of the same Chinese factories - I buy based on reviews and how easy it'd be to RMA in the event of issue.

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>>102863235
Cool story, bro.

>>102859953
damn she's flat. that's sexy af frfr

>>102859953
who is this semen demon

>>102862094
>1600w
>a 15 amp circuit is only rated for 1500w for continuous load
we've now entered the "may require electrical upgrades" phase of pc building

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>>102862094
>poo color

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#c=526,501,523,495,496&sort=price
Which one of these GPUs wont overheat with my setup?
List for reference: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YZJs6D

>>102865206
There's no way to test cables with a meter?

>>102865439
Wall voltage is 120V, well, mine reads 118, so that'd be almost 1800W for one circuit.

>>102865311
>4k benefiting from x3d
wtf, isn't that supposed to be hard gpu bottlenecked?

>>102865518
>last gen radeon trash
>not overheating

>>102865518
>550w
>pcpp estimates 524w wattage
uhh anon that's bad

>>102865569
I'm new to this so please stop acting smug and condescending, you're helping no one.

>>102865585
How so

>>102865596
that's the resident intelvidia shill, he's always smug and condescending
anyway i wouldn't be worried about temperature, but i honestly wouldn't go above a 6700 XT on 550 W

amd is trash

>>102865596
>I'm new
Don't buy Radeon

>>102865618
Their CPUs are good

>>102865618
Their GPUs are good

RDOA5

>want to downsize from ATX midtower to SFF
>too scared to pull the trigger on anything because it's too expensive
I have a 7800x3d and every single thing I've seen online tells me that this CPU is too much for an ITX build and requires undervolting and lots of extensive cooling autism. I've never done SFF before so I'm understandably worried.

Furthermore, I plan on buying a xx90 or xx80 series card in the future and this will just make things worse.

Is mATX a good call? What are the temps like there?
The best decision I ever made was getting a pretty good Peerless Assassin which I will reuse if I find a case that fits it. It keeps my temps pretty low.

>>102865606
You want headroom to ensure shit works well & for better power efficiency
At the very least I'd go 650w but honestly, with that GPU I'd go 750w
It's not much extra money, you can get a great 750w PSU for less money than the one in that list
Why'd you go for that mobo btw

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>>102865616
No but you're the resident AMD shill who couldn't be more wrong on a daily basis

>>102865661
>has this saved
>but totally isn't the nvidiashill
bro you just outed yourself

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>>102865661
>RDNA3 stans
They never learn.

>>102865297
And why should they be avoided? Bad cooling without custom water?

>>102865654
Ah I see, my dumbass thought I had to match the wattages
>Why'd you go for that mobo btw
Have no usecase that requires 4 ram slots + thought it'd be a fun challenge to figure out an ITX build

>>102865661
yeah lol this is the mass replying intelvidia shill: https://desuarchive.org/g/search/image/WbWBQfzxExznvTv2cNCQdQ

>>102865647
I went from an eATX Ultra tower to a mATX and its so much nicer to work with. I wanted a SFF but couldn't find the right motherboard at the right price when I was building. For my next build I would try to get a SFF again but it wouldn't be a big deal if I stayed at mATX. For a mATX case the Define Mini C is hard to beat, love mine.

>>102865562
continuous load is 80% of the circuit's amp capacity, applies to any device that draws a constant wattage for 2+ hours
for example EV chargers plugged into a 50 amp outlet are only rated to draw 40 amps (80%)

Arrow Lake turned out to be nothing....

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>>102865693
I don't even like Intel
I generally recommend Ryzen and I run Ryzen in my personal system
Like I said, I'm not an intelvidia shill, or even an intelvidia shill, while you couldn't be more wrong and retarded on a daily basis

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>>102865693
Not the mass replier, but that image is worth keeping

>>102865734
That's just the building code amount, my breakers say they are rated for 100% continuous load, but the building code sets a maximum of 80%.

I'm currently installing my new 4070 Ti Super and it came with a sag bracket. Is that needed?

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Do the corsair ICUE fans need that external gizmo controller or am I fine with just the fans?

>>102865760
Install it and see if it sags you dolt

>>102865736
Told you to wait® for 18A.
Told you Arrow Lake is going to be a filler/stepping-stone product.

>>102865756
your breakers arent gonna be what catches fire when your wire in the wall overheats

>>102865809
No, regular wire is rated for 15A continuous. Besides, are you using the full 1500+W for over 3 hours at a time? That's some PC.

>>102865801
It doesn't. I thought sagging was a gradual over time kind of thing.

>>102865802
>he's not waiting for novalake 14A

Getting real tired of waiting for the 9800x3d

>>102865837
there is no "regular wire", there's many different gauges and they all have different ratings
at minimum you have 14 awg on a 15a circuit, with a continuous load rating of 12a, thats the electrical code

>>102865802
is there any reason to believe 18A will be better than arrow lake and not just another 2 year wait for a +5% performance boost?

>>102865933
Because Lunar Lake already addressed some of the cache memory latency issues existing in Meteor Lake & Arrow Lake's disaggregated tiles.
https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/1fz4xxw/arrow_lakes_poor_gaming_performance_explained_by/

>>102865690
I was mainly referring to A620
It's like a more limited version of B650

>>102865910
That's the code, yes, but the wire I have is 14Ga and says it's rated for 15A continuous. So the code is just being conservative, it's fine running 15A.

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Changing something out in my PC and I noticed this blue caps that seem to fall off easily just from being nudged. MSI motherboard btw. What are these? Do I need them? They dont seem to screw onto the screws beneath them and appear to be smooth on the inside as well

>>102866083
I think that's a part of mounting the cooler. Like a stand-off for the bracket on the front side.

>>102866098
Thanks! Been stuck trying to switch something out and had no idea it was the cooler all along kek

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>>102865622
>Don't buy Radeon

Why not? Im only into playing games and not generating child porn.

Please tell me why I shouldn’t buy Radeon if im not a nonce?

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>>102866152
Newbies can't handle Radeon's quirks (read: flaws)
They also have no clue what they're buying, which is why they think they can beat the system and pay less by buying Radeon
Your power question is the tip of the iceberg

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I need 120 mm pwm case fans that can spin as low as 300 rpm (or preferably slower). Basically, I need absolute silence during idle.

Should I just say fuck it and buy noctua or are there some alternative that is not as expensive?

Should I get 4080S now or >wait?

>>102866043
the code is minimum spec, thats below minimum spec so it doesnt meet code
but nmp if your house burns down and your insurance doesnt pay a dime

>>102866216
Wait, the 5080 will be out in January and it probably won't be hard to get one for MSRP

>>102866216
>4080S
Why not just buy a 4090 instead at that point?

>>102866229
buying a 4090 is retarded, just like buying a 4080 or 5080/5090 is

>>102866224
No it's above code which is 80%, it's rated for 100% of 15A.

>>102866229
>just pay 70% more
>$700
>for 30% performance IF you don't end up limited by some other component first
Not him but the 4090 is only for people who know they need it

>>102866194
noctuas aren't expensive

>>102866236
True, but if anon was going to buy a 4080S, he would be better of buying a 4090 instead.

Is the 3050 6gb good enough if I just want something to be able to run my 5 year old strategy games

>>102866246
>$90 for 3 fans
I mean, sure. It's not an insane price, if you have a job. I just want to know if there are any alternatives to consider.

>>102866266
Look up youtube videos of whatever you want to play, and pay attention to whether the game is GPU or CPU limited

>>102866266
Probably. Look at their recommend specs.

>>102866194
Stupid animu idiot. I boughted 5 pack of arctic p12 and p14. Have fun with over priced shit.

>>102866194
Be quiet has done well by me

Anyone have the Asrock X870 Pro RS WiFi? Is it any good?

>>102866238
there is no 14awg wire thats rated for 100% continuous load
rather than call you a liar I'll just call you an idiot

>>102866296
Hey, that's mean. No bully.

>>102866310
Alright

>>102866152
Because you're clearly a retard. Just get jewidia so you don't end up complaining about driver issues later.

>>102866328
Like I said, that's just because of the code. The wire itself is rated for 100%. But in building applications it's listed as 80%, but somehow for all other applications it's allowed to be 100%.

>>102866326
I bought the same board. I think its very good for the price, can't say anything more as I haven't used it yet.

>>102866248
4080s is the best value high end card you can buy

>>102866356
Interesting, I'm wanting to pick it up quick because I wasn't able to get asrock x670 boards because they sold out fast and never restocked where I am.

>>102866354
you're just wrong though, your wire doesnt say anywhere on it that it's rated for 15a for continuous load, that's not something that would be listed on any wire or even make sense to list it on any wire because of voltage drop over longe runs and temperature differential in walls, both directly affecting amp capacity in the wire

>>102866384
I never said I read it off the wire, you can get the specs from the manufacturer.

>>102866389
they're not gonna list that either, at best they'll give you max amperage (not continuous) under optimal conditions
you're just making shit up

>>102866364
For me its better because b650e and x670e boards are more expensive. Also, wifi 7 and usb 40 giga bit is pretty cool. The ethernet is 2.5 giga bit, but wifi is faster? The usb is faster? That's wild.

>>102866401
Nope the data says 'maximum current that a conductor can carry continuously', so they do list it.

>RDOA4
>ZENDOA5
AMDisaster

>>102866404
I'm skeptical of the wifi, that's 40Gb/s for the whole wifi network, so you're sharing that with anyone else running wifi. The 2.5Gb ethernet is guaranteed full all the time. But yeah, 10Gbit would be nice. But you can get a pcie card because it has an extra slot.

Retards arguing over a shitty product neither of them will ever own ZZZZZZZ

>>102866448
I think wifi is 5 giga bit and the 40 giga bit is the usb.

>>102866485
That sounds reasonable, but wifi 7 is usually billed as being 40 something, isn't it?

>>102866501
WTF? Looks like it anon. Are 10g nics obsolete? That's wild.

>>102866545
No, they're not obsolete, like I said that's under ideal situations, and that's the whole wifi network not per device.

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> Ryzen 7600 - 180 euro (used)
> Ryzen 7700X - 270 euro (new)

2 cores worth it?
These are my only options & I want this built by next week.

This is pretty much for gaming (RTX 3080).

>>102866589
no
>used 180€
bro for 185-190 you can get it new
https://www.amazon.es/dp/B0BMQJWBDM

>>102863669
Yeah that was my concern too.

>>102866623
Thanks.

So, 7600 or 7700X?

>>102863669
pvc melts at 100c. a 4090 core temp can reach 75c and by the time heat reach back plate its probably at 70c. so it perfectly safe. also the gpu shrouds are made with plastic too

>>102866682
7600 easy

>>102866455
>current generation PC component market is shit
>replace Ryzen 7 5800X with a Ryzen 9 5950X
>replace GeForce RTX 3070 with GeForce RTX 3090
Feels good.

Bros is it stupid to buy spare PC parts to have backup options if shit breaks?

>>102866832
Yes. You'll save more money by just putting that money in stocks or whatever, then immediately buying a part you need in a local store even if it's not the best price rather than buying depreciating parts on the off chance you need them
Keeping parts rather than reselling can be an option though

>>102866832
Yeah.

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>>102866832
Makes sense if you are a business, if downtime is going to cost lots of money. If its just for gay-men. Its fucking retarded. Pants on head retarded.

will a 5090 and 9950X3D be worth it over a 10900K and 3090?

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I just installed a new GPU, CPU Fan and pcie wifi card. And whenever I turned it on I'm getting an error saying "Over current detected on your USB device! Shutdown in 15 seconds to protect your main board."

I unplugged the pcie wifi card's bluetooth plug that was connected to the F_USB and I'm still getting the error. What do I do?

>>102866945
*to upgrade to

>>102866832
not stupid if you are buying quality you are satisfied with,
can get expensive but you get brand new backup

>>102866963
>will a 5090 and 9950X3D be worth it over a 10900K and 3090?
Why though? Doesn't 3090 run everything that you could ever want? If you can sell your existing hardware for a good price, then maybe, else it seems pointless.

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what does pcpartspicker mean when it says a port on the motherboard is "covered?"
like, is there a plate I have to remove or something, or is it totally inaccessible for some godforsaken reason?

>>102867062
it means your gpu covered the slot

>>102866358
>4080
>high end

>>102867070
ah, thanks

>>102867108
>nothing is high end besides the halo card

>>102866354
>>102866384
>>102866389
>>102866401
14 gauge wire is good for 15 continuous amps.
Building codes allow for 15 amps continuous, it's why your breaker is 15 amps.

The 80% max load is for appliances only, there is not one particular reason why it exists. It's just a requirement that is a good practice, it can prevent both safety issues and general annoyance. One of the reasons is that an 1800W appliance ties up the whole circuit and almost no household has dedicated circuits to a single outlet, so it prevents alot of tripping

>>102867161
>>102867161
>>102867161

>>102867054
been thinking about upgrading to a 4k OLED and I want to be able to run high refresh rate 4k which the 3090 can't really do
plus I want more cores for running virtual machines

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>>102866954
I fixed it. Looks like a clip from the IO Shield was caught in the Ethernet port causing it to short out. Just bent the clip out of the way for now. I need a new motherboard but it's working now.

Usecase for AIO coolers?

>>102867171
>more cores for running virtual machines
That sounds like a good use for 9950x. I bought a 7900x for that. I didn't even buy a GPU and I'm planning to just use the iGPU. So, I'm probably the wrong guy to judge.

>>102867206
I use my PC for both gaming and high end workstation tasks so I like to go powerful hardware

>>102867183
Its for LGBT folx. For straight men, its air coolers.

>>102860991
People want vram to run bigger ai models, simple as.

>>102860991
hurrrrrrrr lets go back to 640kb /compooters/ with 640kb of RAM and monochrome displays and ..

no

>also no

>>102862745
> non-based attempted minimalist shitposter has visible spectrum of light emanating from their fishtank case
It's LED if motherboard indicating that I've turned on monitor later than booted.
I also can't turn off this blue cross on cooler.
>>102863001
> pc building is all about customization and adding anime and rgb to your pc is extremely customization
>>102862794
I've seen those. I have to import them for
No.
>>102863402
> Are you serious? There's tons of cases without windows.
There's none where I live.

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>>102866344
>retard
>just get
>driver issues later

>>102868132
>There's none where I live.
You live somewhere where they don't sell Fractal, Silverstone, anything like that?