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I've been waiting for way too long for the parts to arrive. Anons, I think today might be the day.

I bet it sucks to be a radeon user. lmao

>>102867190
Not really. That's the only thing that works on loonix. If you are a tranny, you'll be using njudea on wingay.

>>102867221
sorry, only troons use gimped gaymer only toys

>>102867190
RT is still in the adoption phase, DLSS is good though.
>'But look at this imperfect reconstruction!'
I don't think the intent was to produce a perfect solution, it's more about the performance & efficiency gain being worth the trade-off.

>>102867253
RT makes shit look better (in some scenarios)
Dlss gives you more FPS
I'll take the former over the latter anyday

tldr, laptop recommendations?

work might have me traveling a bit in the near future. recently I've started doing commissions for people and I'm trying to build up a reputation so it pays off, but I can't really bring my whole PC setup with me on the road so I'm thinking about getting a low end laptop, just enough to run clip studio and run youtube in the background. I have an old iPad already but I don't really like it, can't say why.

>captcha KREM8
>cremate
am i gonna die if i go on this trip

What’s the actual use case for liquid/aio coolers?

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This is an anime website so all pc guts images must include an anime waifu

>>102867301
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHH

>>102867291
High core count/high tdp CPUs.
Liquid cooling is really just another marketing meme though

>>102867318
What qualifies as a high core count

>>102867289
Lenovo thinkpad X1C g6. That's the one I'm using currently. Its great, cheap and it can take a beating. Only buy business laptops like Thinkpads or dell latitudes.

>>102867329
You need to look at more than just core count. It’s both high core count and tdp

>>102867289
There is /tpg/ thread for laptops.

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Is my 5800X3D going to severely bottleneck an RTX 4080S?

>>102867265
Not him but DLAA or DLSS + (DL)DSR is almost always the way to go
And if you need the performance, DLSS is the best option
So you still want Nvidia's algos in either case

>>102867356
only if you play in low res like 1080

>>102867356
Nein, its one of the goated CPUs, its going to be fine.

>>102867318
Ryzen 7 7700X has a tdp of 105 watts and 8 cores, that enough? I’m intimidated by air cpu coolers.

>>102867382
Bruh, what are you using it for?

>>102867382
Get a big air cooler and chill out anon

>>102867416
nothing, they just look cool

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I plan to use the cooler that came with the CPU.
The pre-applied thermal material looks like this (only slightly off-center).
Is it fine? Are the empty spaces going to fill in once pressure is applied?

>>102867449
>Are the empty spaces going to fill in once pressure is applied?

That is exactly what will happen

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-bids-farewell-to-amd-ryzen-7-5800x3d-and-ryzen-5-5600x3d-cpus
Zen3 X3D has stopped production

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>>102867291
AIO has two major benefits:

Able to relocate the heat exchanger (radiator). This is surprisingly useful especially for smaller form factor builds.

Far greater thermal mass because of the first point which means you can more effectively cool things down.

I don't think there's a scenario today where you need an AIO for a typical desktop CPU if you dont have case size restraints. For example, I have one of the most notoriously difficult CPUs to cool, a 5800x3D, and a Noctua D15 is entirely adequate. You could rock a Thermal Spirit 120 SE to get the price down significantly (50$ I think).


So, unless you have money to burn on aesthetics or have an actual need for an AIO in a small Factor build. you can largely ignore them.

>>102867449
Yes and yes.
The major downside to stock coolers is noise. Fan runs high speed and often. Otherwise they are just fine.

>>102867577
fuck I love my 5800x3d. Such a good purchase to go AMD on the 5600x back in the day. picked up a 5800x3d cheap and its been amazing.

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Too much paste?

>>102867638
Will the AIO not improve the performance? It seems my 7950x gets up to the throttling temperature almost right away with all cores going & using air cooling. I'd like to get all over 5GHz. Is a custom solution needed for that?

>>102867686
yes

>>102867686
Just make sure you're not using conductive paste or something and then it won't matter.

>>102867686
no that's perfect

Do I put the motherboard in the case first and then all the components on? Or all the components on the motherboard then in the case? (graphics card I'll put in last of course)

>>102867689
Volt limit it, they ship it with a dumb power envelope. PBO will always push the chip to 90 without restrictions. You only lose something like 10% performance and you can claw back 10C+ in thermals by volt limiting it.

>>102867686
i used basically that much in the center and then i did 4 dots on the corners and its fine

>>102867727
mobo in case

>>102867729
I need max performance though, losing 10% would be bad.

>>102867731
>>102867715
>>102867706
>>102867720
Fuck me the brackets are upside down

>>102867689
Depends what youre trying to do. If youre running prime95 as a benchmark on a CPU like that youre going to max out temps no matter what conventional means you use (AiO or air cooled) unless maybe you shove a 420mm radiator in there and have fans maxed out . FYI on high end CPUs its not really a good benchmark. Something more realistic like Cinebench would be better for real world benchmarking.

In my opinion air cool like ps120se or d15 is just as good as AIO up to 360mm where it breaks even.

That being said for a beast of a cpu like that, Id do 360mm AIO just for the larger thermal mass as it would mean smoother temperature curves and less aggressive fan speed changes.

Hope this helps.

>>102867771
read the manual u retard it shows you how to do it

>buy 7800x3D and b650 bundle last black friday sale with ddr5 and a ak620 cooler for cheap (overkill but I can use it again)
>prices went UP since zen 5 launch cause it's so good
truly the 1080TI of CPUs. I doubt 9800x3D will be that much faster, the cache is what makes it work well (partly).

There's nothing wrong with the corsair 4000d airflow case. It's a perfectly adequate case for a decent price, even better when it's on sale.

>>102867727
mobo in case first. Some people like to post the motherboard outside of case, I dont do this because I dont buy shit morherboards and its super awkward to do.

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>>102867689
>I'd like to get all over 5GHz
should be possible according to techpowerup (this is stock)
their test setup: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-9-7950x/5.html
i assume they're using the AIO for frequency validation
>>102867754
ignore tree huggers
>>102867775
also what this anon said
don't expect 5ghz in P95
the chip REALLY pulls back in those kinds of tests to protect itself (unlike intel lmao)

>>102867476
>>102867653
Thank you very much.

>>102867334
sounds good, I'll have a look. thanks anon.
>>102867341
my mistake, I've never really been on the market for a laptop so my first instinct is to come to pcbg. thanks m8

>>102867334
>X1C g6
>16:9
Only downside of it. Wish I had 16:10 or 4:3

>>102867782
Feel like an idiot for not just buying the shit in early August when it was still cheap.

Now I'm assed on waiting for a 9x3D that's going to cost the same as the 7800 current price.

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>didn't waitfag for 9800X3D and got a 7800X3D for €350 to replace my decade old PC
>now waitfagging for the new GPU generation to replace my 5 year old 5700 XT while I clear out the less GPU limited titles in my backlog
All things considered I'm pretty satisfied with the outcome.

>>102867967
Same boat, brother. I'm honestly fucking livid about it. I try not to dwell but man we really missed that shit.

>>102867754
>I NEED muh 5GHz+ all core sustained clocks
If you want to just max out without exotic cooling and a delid, just get a 420mm AIO then and see if you can dial in power settings. Don't expect more than like 5.1GHz practically

>>102867799
>according to techpowerup
Techpowerup are monkeys who publish and defend flawed testing like they're on the payroll of hardware companies. However this article seems to be okay
>ignore tree huggers
Not a tree hugger, the fact is the standard power settings are flawed and you can usually make some adjustment. I'll admit that I glossed over what anon was asking for though, in his case he probably doesn't have much room for adjustment.

Finally finished switching out the CPU after way too long. Some freaking thermal paste somehow flung from the tube and onto a nearby component. My attempt at cleaning it up resulted in a delay as the towel broke into pieces making a new mess to clean all while the CPU had thermal paste on it. Was like up to 30 minutes I left it on there without attaching the CPU cooler. Will that be a problem?

I'm however paranoid thermal paste got on the carpet considering I somehow didn't even see that bit of paste fling onto a component like 4 inches away from the CPU. How do I even make sure I don't have this on the carpet? Is it normal that after booting the PC the first turn on took like 15 seconds before the screen showed anything when I have an SSD that's typically already on the desktop view within that time?

>>102867788
>its super awkward
there's nothing like the anxiety you feel the first time shorting the power pins on a mobo with a screwdriver

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this is one of the most aesthetic builds i have ever seen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYZ9G8ZccZk

>>102867686
It's fine.

>>102868031
Looks good but that PSU placement blocking the front is trashy
>>102868039
blue board

>>102868017
Clean new toothbrush and Isopropyl alcohol. Scrub the paste off computer components. I literally spilled thermal paste in the cpu socket of my current pc and was freaking out. Can verify you can literally pour isopropyl alcohol in the cou socket.

Just make sure everything is bone dry after.

For the carpet just get a carpet cleaner. You should already own one if you live in a house. you can rent one from nearby stores or buy a 300 dollar one on amazon.

>>102867967
>>102867991
There is no use waiting for stuff anymore, I don't know how you guys haven't realized this. Companies specifically do limited production runs and adjust prices dynamically according to their fab costs and distribution figures.
Even if some products get cheaper further into the future, the odds are that you'll simply miss out on them because they're produced in such limited numbers nowadays. Even a lot of X670 boards have dried up

>>102868027
lol this feel is so specific and yet so visceral and relatable

>>102868064
It landed on what I think is some sort heat spreader or cover of the motherboard. Took some time but I got rid of the damn flakes of the table towel I used.

>carpet cleaner
I'm going to look retarded if I go rent one of those. I'm already considered anxious even when it's justified. I don't think I have a choice I'm going to have to look like a giga retard and rent one while getting mocked behind my back within earshot. I don't want to be the reason someone get's fucked over because of some stupid pos thermal paste landing on the floor and next thing you know someone picked something off the floor in just the right spot. Bam thermal paste on their finger, oh no an itchy eye. Fuck me!

>>102867997
Hm, so a 360 aio won't be enough to offer much improvement over my air cooler? I have to go to 420? I guess I don't mind that it gets hot, I just want the clock speed to be a bit higher if it's at all possible.

>>102862745
> non-based attempted minimalist shitposter has visible spectrum of light emanating from their fishtank case
It's LED if motherboard indicating that I've turned on monitor later than booted.
I also can't turn off this blue cross on cooler.
>>102863001
> pc building is all about customization and adding anime and rgb to your pc is extremely customization
>>102862794
I've seen those. I have to import them for
No.
>>102863402
> Are you serious? There's tons of cases without windows.
There's none where I live.

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I need your guidance
/pcbg/
This is my Lenovo SFF M900
As you can tell, it's been modded somewhat.

I want AIO cooling, but cannot find anything that suits the form factor because it's all 120mm. Should I just settle with soft tube water cooling for the CPU and possibly RAM?

>inb4 I'm retarded and don't need it
I plan to pack more power into my system soon. GPU on a mid load tends to get pretty warm, even with the blower running non-stop exhausting at the top. Want to mitigate heat buildup by any means.

>>102867782
i already got fucked over by not being patient
>could've dodged 13th/14th gen
>could've gotten a 4070 super for nearly the same price as a 4070

>>102868161
>I plan to pack more power
Not with that (I presume) 330w OEM PSU.

im not going to have to upgrade my 1000W PSU if I get a 5080 am I? cause if so I may just stick with the 4080

>>102868142
>360 aio won't be enough to offer much improvement over my air cooler?
You'll get hysteresis benefits but otherwise the only thing that gives you performance headroom is a 420mm AIO. Maybe you should have actually done research before you bought stuff, if you need a new case that suits a 420mm AIO get the Fractal Meshify 2 XL.
>I just want the clock speed to be a bit higher if it's at all possible.
If you just want to maximize clock speed don't even bother with smaller coolers

No one spoonfeed this retard anymore

>>102868196
There are some TFX form factor PSUs that go up to 550 watts, but I'm eyeballing the Tesla T4 accelerator which can run off the 75 watts supplied by the pci slot and then possibly doubling my RAM.

>>102868245
Nothing that justifies watercooling anything?

>>102868239
No, I can fit a 420mm radiator. I was just asking. Most people say air cooling is all you need so I didn't really think much about it, that's all. It works fine as is, but extra performance would be nice.

>>102868277
You don't think the tight packing of components warrants it? I'm honestly asking

>>102868039
>Intel selling you literal fragments of silicon
With Jews...

>>102868131
just so you know, most normal people or at least the entirety of the middle and upper class use carpet cleaners on a regular basis. People rent them all the time at the hardware store near me.

That being said if you rent just wet it down and smash it it in until you dont see it.

>>102868161
>using lenovo products
we already knew you were retarded.

>>102868319
Not with stuff this old/such low power consumption.

>>102868225
if it's a good quality PSU, no

>if it's not post here when it pops so we can laugh at you

>>102868039
remember when Intel made fun of AMD for gluing chiplets together

>>102868311
Alright I'll hit you with one last reply because you're pleasant. You are asking for pinning your CPU to max all core sustained clocks on a notoriously hot chip. That's a bit different to most of the people in this thread who are just playing games on their rigs, just keep that in mind.
My take on it is that you might as well drive the temps down as far as possible while achieving these clocks, so a 420mm is the answer. 420mm also has better surface area configuration for cooling (distance from inlet/outlet to nearest surface area) and quieter 140mm fans.

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>>102868363
Yes
I also remember when Intel glued two housefire CPU's together

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On the product page for my motherboard one of the highlight features is "Hi-Density Power Connectors; 8 pin 12v Power Connectors"
https://www.asrock.com/MB/Intel/B760M%20Pro%20RSD4/index.it.asp
Is this just the normal CPU connector?

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>>102868396
The connectors in the manual

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>intel 5960x
>nvidia titan x 12Gb
>cheap crt shitter
I just don't think I will need more. High refresh monitors are a meme to trick consumers into 4090. I'm done chasing a carrot. 165Hz lcd is just as blurry as 60Hz and I tired pretending it's not. Ah yes now they want to me to buy $1000 240Hz oled so I can finally have somewahat close motion clarity to displays 25 years ago. Fuck spending $3000 on battlestation at this point.

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>>102868161
anon is a /madman/ for ricing out a 2litrebox

>i lik eit
>you go, /madanon/, and come back to show us your Frankensteins monster when it's /leet/

>>102868031
I have the old corsair version of this case up for like 2 years now and I love how small it is.

I'd do another one, but ITX mobos are so goddamn expensive now. Like every B650 ITX board is like $260. I have no clue why. It wasn't always that way.

>>102868396
Yeah.

CPU power connectors can be:
4
8
8+4
or 8+8

Yes its okay to have a psu that doesnt have all the pins on the connector, ie your psu might only have 4 pins on the cpu cable. You can just plug those in and leave the other 4 pins on the connector empty. The design of the cable and connector will prevent you from plugging it in wrong.

The extra pins are for overclocking applications or super high end CPUs that have massive power requirements.

hope this helps dude

>>102868408
Nice blog post you retarded faggot

>>102868332
.........middle class and we don't have one. Vacuum has seemingly been good enough. Still I'm gonna look like a massive schizo coming in with one and the moment they hear the reason oh fug I'm gonna be mocked. What about just going a wide berth on the carpet with wet paper towels? That good or nah? I know the cpu and cooler were resistant even with an alcohol towelette and required some scrubbing.

>>102868460
Yeah I mean just blot it and see if it goes away.

>>102868436
Lol I was worried that this "Hi-Density" 8-pin power connector could be some alternative connector that I may use instead of the regular 24-pin, but it looks like it's just the CPU connector.
Thank you very much.

>>102868408
1080p here i refuse to go up any further as it only ruins previous visual sizes. i remember when 480p or whatever it was looked good.

>>102868480
no worries!

>>102868480
Its just marketing bro.

High density means they have 8 pins instead of the minimum 4.

>>102868492
I see now, thanks.

>>102868363
Intel glue is better. The chips are super close to each other

>>102868039
Is that a sample? There's not a single trace of the black IHS adhesive

>>102868463
I should mention that this isn't a rental house either. I'm going to have to inspect the carpet closely. I've already walked too much in the area so if there was some I may have already spread it all over the place along with some other non-carpet places.

>>102868161
> I want AIO cooling,
Retard.

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>>102868566
what the hell is PCBG going on about
>carpet cleaning

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what does /pcbg/ think about prebuilts as a starting point for a build?

>>102868636
Potentially spilled thermal paste on the carpet. The thermal paste tube syringe somehow squirted some out at least once so now I'm worried some got on the carpet. Very disappointing considering how overbearingly cautious I was being.

>>102868645
>4x DisplayPort 1.4
>not one HDMI
LOL. Just how cheap can they get while commanding high prices?

>5090 is 600w
So how is the 12vhpwr cable going to handle that?

>>102868672
I see now.

>slip the maintenance guy $20 for carpet cleaning

>>102868680
Who needs hdmi?

>>102868680
>>102868736
They had to shave something off so we could save $69,330.56 burgerbucks, anons

>>102867686
Looks like ice cream

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>>102868747
What's this then?

>>102867686
i have to poop now

>>102868781
shitty dongle, anon, not a native HDMI connector on the GPU like the /consoomers/ need for their /fapping/ sessions in front of the TV

>>102868821
TVs don't have display port? I've never needed an hdmi port on the gpu.