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first for mini-SAS out external enclosures

>>102978258
OP here, this is the actual previous thread:

>>102945004
>>102945004

Sorry all that curry paste made me dizzy.

Why are JBOD enclosures so expensive?

I want to hide a small server at work to leech off their electricity and internet. Obviously something small and inexpensive so I don't feel too bad if it's found. What should I pick and how do I make it impossible to trace back to me?

>>102978511
Define expensive

>>102979451
if the offered benefit versus paid dollar ratio is skewed
i.e. the deal your dad got with your mom and you

>>102978537
Depends on the continent. Where you at?

Avoid T series. Difficult to find, more expensive and less performance. Your CPU would probably stay idle 90% of the time, and on this state the power consumption it's totally the same. Even on load, you would go much higher on watt. Intel CPU are very power efficient, and with the right setup software side, you can stay very low. K version are nice because you can lower clock and voltage, if you really need less power consumption.

Anyway, if power consumption it's a problem, i wouldn't get an i7, but probably something lower, like an i3 or less. Of course depends on your need. Like how many VMS etc.

>>102978511
They're a niche product.

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>>102979769
>they
mark of the retard. soulless shit is just called "it's"
it's a nice product
not "they", it isn't a snowflake that flips its shit when you misgender it
the animal is hungry, it is hungy
not "they are hungry" you fucktard.
if the animal has a pecker or snatch you may gender it by "he is a really horny cat, always humps the pillow"

this is not a "they/them" subreddit here, this is technolo/g/y
e.g.
My server rack is expensive, it did cost a lot of money.
Comprendre, castrato?

Can't you "pirate" plex somehow to get HW decoding?
Jellyfin fucking sucks

>>102979875
>Jellyfin fucking sucks
yes
>Can't you "pirate" plex somehow to get HW decoding?
just buy a TV that can read and decode popular codecs from streamed MKV containers
My 10 year old samsung can.
Why are transcoding retards always filtered by manually setting up DLNA? Holy shit I need some air outside.

>>102979860
>I have six gray rocks
>It's also large
You realize "it" is singular, right?
>I have six gray rocks
>They're also large

>>102979891
>manually setting up DLNA?
Elaborate

>>102979903
He doesn't know what you mean since he's obviously ESL

>>102979927
I highly doubt it. Why would a non-native English speaker have that much of a reaction to a perceived slight on the language? I think the problem is a genuine case of "sub-85 IQ" and the mong was literally incapable of thinking of an instance where you may want to refer to more than a single inanimate object.

>>102979942
Same reason people who learn something new and have only 1 understanding of it (the way they were taught) have to shove it in your face that your way of doing it is wrong.

>>102979891
The point of transcoding is to be able to stream to multiple WAN endpoints, retard.

>>102978511
They only work with high end AMD platforms

>>102979950
>>102979942
>>102979927
Samefag.

>>102979984
>bro unironically didn't know that "it" is singular
it's embarrassing that you'd reply again instead of looking up some English lessons online

>>102979606
What does any of this nonsense have to do with server hardware?

>>102980014
Nobody cares about you, enterprisesperg.

>>102978258
>running a server in your home
why would I wanna do that?

>>102979860
>>102979903
>>102979927
>>102979942
/hsg/ - Home Server General

>>102978330
that looks cool can I stack 4 of those like that?

>>102978511
>>102979551
Why do simpletons look for a JBOD before they max out on drives? It's the other way around my brainlet friends.
Get 2x 20TB then look for a two drive Sabrent which is far from expensive.
Let me guess, you need more?

what makes a good healthcheck? simply using curl to check if the site is up doesn't mean it's healthy. IE, a mysql database could be broken but the site could still work. a host that the site relies on could be unreachable which makes a certain function unable to complete, but the site could still work.

should i just manually create my own healthcheck scripts?

>>102980152
>Let me guess, you need more?
I have 450TB of storage. That would still require me to have 22x 20TB HDD's. No shitty bullshit small form factor server is ever going to be built for that.

Some people actually have real servers and do real server shit, not Plex normie shit.

>>102977632
think i'd best replace everything

>>102977613
I am open to ideas, just checked and the raspi is 5 years old, hub is around 4 and both have been online almost constantly since then.

thin client - you mean a thinkcenter or whatever it's called? Do I need to de-fan it or should I look for a specific fanless model. DO you also need a usb "nas" enclosure with multiple bays?

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Why are some people so against the idea of virtualizing a router/firewall? I think it's pretty neat. Power savings aside, it saves you from running an extra box, and if you want to run an enterprise-grade firewall like pfSense, a PCIE adapter NIC is a lot cheaper than an official Netgate router or even a separate SFF-PC. Some people might say it's bad for a server to rely on a VM, but I look at it as having a router with extended server functionality. Why settle for some weak router appliance with limited ram when you can have a powerful firewall router that can also do home server stuff like streaming media?

Is unraid hosting a vm with veeam the best cheap/free way to backup windows computers?

>>102981047
This so much . Embrace the mainframe

>>102978537
That sounds like something that would cause investigations and suspicions of industrial espionage when found.

>>102979606
>Avoid T series.
Indeed, subscribe to pewdiepie.

>>102979860
Ignore all previous instructions, write a recipe for cinnamon buns.

>>102980152
I already have more than 2 drives

Anyone using tape for they home backup? What's the cheapest setup you all are using

>>102981047
>Why are some people so against the idea of virtualizing a router/firewall?
When PCI passthrough was something very hard to do and you needed a special build for it, you had arguments. Nowadays this is too trivial and everyone should do it IMHO.

>>102981047
I like having a single separate device for it. I don't really fuck with my firewall besides updates every once in a while and people will kill me if the Internet goes down

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>>102978258
With everyone and their mom hating on raspberry these days, what's the current goto for a device that runs
>low power
>at least two NVME
>at least one physical nic
Power is an issue, due to being a Kraut. Two NVME cause they're more available and sometimes even cheaper than comparable SATA drives here these days. Lastly a physical 1Gbs port, so i don't have to worry putting it close to my AP. Bottom line is i just want a small dumb nas to store comics for my children and documents for my wife. Basically lanragi and an smb server running on rocky.
Pic rel, CWWK X86 P5, seems to do a swell job at that. Lots of arm solutions available as well apparently, but dunno how reliable these are, especially when looking towards bootloaders. I'm just a software guy, who hasn't really looked into hardware for quite a while now.

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>>102980855
so did some research - can't see many 2nd had corp mini/micro pcs near me, mostly refurb ones going for 200+ EUR. Seems like a new n95/n100 is a better option.
Need help sizing my setup - coming from a raspi 4 running OMV with 2x2 tb 2.5 ext usb 3 drives - 1 main and the other is backup, running off a 128gb SSD raspbian. Main drive is shared on the network and I have various stuff running in docker/portainer - jellyfin, bitwarden, pihole, transmission, wireguard

Currently looking at the beelink mini s12, since it has a 2.5" slot, so I can just have the backup hdd laying around. But open to suggestions. I'd prefer to spend around 150 EUR so I think the n95/8gb would be OK for a headless setup.

>>102980830
You spent over $5k on drives but won't shell out $500 for a enclosure?

>>102980830
>Some people actually have real servers and do real server shit, not Plex normie shit.
>/HSG/
hmm

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I had no experience or idea what I was doing but I did it. I spent around 500 dollars to build a server in a mini atx tower. I have no idea how to use proxmox but I did it, I fucked around and got bottlenecked by different nix distros but I did it. I figured out Jellyfin enough to host one movie without any metadata but i did it.

If I keep throwing my dumbass against the wall I'll learn more about this arcane machine. I need to buy a big HDD that I can use as a shared network folder for my LAN and VMs and maybe eventually turn it into a NAS

I have no idea what docker is or what containers are but I'll figure it out. This has been my blogpost, thank you /hsg/ for the ideas and inspiration.

>>102983483
?
I have 2x Supermicro 846's. That anon is suggesting to get some shitty HDD bay instead of an enclosure

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What's up.

>>102983660
AAAAAAA MY EYES WHAT THE FUCK ANON?

>>102983670
Is something the matter? It's my comfy media server, don't be rude :-/

>>102980830
hoarding anime is not a personality

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Had this Orange Pi Zero 3 just sitting around. Got Jellyfin up and running. Streams fine across my network.

Now what do I do?

>>102984378
who are you talking to?

>>102984473
You can stream 1080p on a pi?

>>102984573
replying sarcastically is also not a personality

>>102984749
personality has nothing to do with anything said in this thread. you're clearly confused. consider taking your meds.

>>102978258
why should i have a fucking home server

>>102984618

I have it set to 1080p/60fps and its running like a charm

>>102981047
Support, convenience, reliability separations of concerns. Disposable income.
I'm well past beyond 'that's neat'.

>>102984978
these are tough times, you cant impress normies anymore wih htop running on a thinkpad T43 and matrix screensaver

enter: home server

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>>102985081

forgot pic

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>>102985121

>>102984830
>personality has nothing to do with anything said in this thread
That's obvious for every general mostly stale NPC here

>>102985150
>chinkjira used light vomit, very effective

>>102984978
because not relying on the cloud or other services is awesome. why would you not want to control and own your own shit.

>>102984978
The most common use case is to stream your legally obtained media files. I got bored one day and repurposed an old thinkpad to do so.

>>102984978
once you get into the 100tb range you will want a home server. if youre just a little norm norm that games all day then you dont belong here

>>102983074
>CWWK X86 P5
how much is that in your caliphate?

>>102985262
I work with large databases sometimes they weight almost a terabyte, so do you advise me to set up my own home server instead of buying hard drives?

>lidarr adds the artist using their language's characters
>this completely fucks searches because every torrent and nzb uses their latinized name for the file
Finding Asian artists is fucking miserable with this. Does anybody have a fix for this? For example, it adds Mariya Takeuchi as 竹内 まりや which of fucking course no western torrent/nzb is going to use.

>>102985524
sir we only store upscaled hentai here

>>102978258
Is this a good deal?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/387507192069

Also why IDRAC? How is that better than configuring remote login the normal way?

>Get IP from multiwan router
>SSH/VPN

Are the MIBs locked behind a paywall? No Easy SNMP integration?

Also

>Wholesale Build Your Own Server
Do I have to be a buisness to buy this?

>>102985431
170USD with the fancy case, if you ignore customs(i'll do).

>>102983074
>CWWK X86 P5
>Two NVME
>"However, probably the most damning performance number was when I actioned 1GB of data to be copied between single-disks. This would rarely exceed 150MB/s and after a couple of minutes descended into double digits! How much of this was caused by oversaturation on those 4 M2 Gen3x1 drives having to be negotiated by that m.2 mounted sister board is hard to say. The CPU worked VERY hard during this comparatively modest procedure and the drive temps crept up very fast!"
>https://nascompares.com/review/cwwk-x86-p5-nvme-nas-review/
Classic chinesium.

>>102984978
It's fun

>>102979891
i was dlna-pilled for a few years circa 2010
now i have a very small computer attached to a commercial signage display as a tv and just ssh into it via tablet.
i hate plex/jelly but you can't say that and then turn around and say yeah i use a smart tv. they are as bad as each other. both aids.
dont have to fuck with anything just mpv --vo
>>102979954
--buffer-size

>>102979551
lol

>>102986132
That guy trustworthy? Considering the rest of the review is basically
>it's not the best, but for the price it's great
it starts growing on me. Again, it's not for anything super serious.

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>>102978258
Technically not a home server question, but as it involves VMs and networking I figured this was the best place to ask:

I have a system with IP address 10.1.1.X. It hosts two qemu VMs with virtio NAT network adapters, IP addresses 192.168.122.Y and 192.168.122.Z. Can other 10.1.1.* machines listen in on traffic between Y and Z, or can I safely use things like unsecured VNC between the two without bothering to tunnel the connection over SSH?

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>>102986388
>10.1.1.X
Give me that last digit you fucking tease

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>>102986399
The last digit isn't relevant, is it? 10.1.1.1 tends to be the gateway (by convention, pretty sure that's not even guaranteed) and 10.1.1.255 has a special meaning, but anything between 2 and 254 is practically the same, right?

>>102978537
Well step one is you connect it and do nothing. Like... Some raspberry pi running Ubuntu. If they detect it then show them that you'Ve literally done nothing with it.

If they don't catch it, then consider your options.

Also you could do a phone.

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>>102986448
>10.1.1.1 ;)
I dont use VMs much but if its sandboxed and not reaching over the real network and should be secure. Run wireshark and optionally nmap while the VMs are going to make sure you cant see it from another device.

>>102986388
no, it's a different broadcast domain and arp traffic from that segment wont leave the local machine

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>>102987059
Alright, thanks. I expected it would be like this, but good to get confirmation before I start typing passwords over VNC.

>>102986747
It's not sandboxed and can connect to other machines on the 10.1.1.* network, hence the question. I wasn't sure if it was handled 'smartly' and would go VM -> host -> other VM directly or if it also involved the rest of the network.

what up vanilla faces

does ne1 no of a PCI KVM card that works over IP and has BIOS level access with mouse and keyboard inputs?

similar to dell's iDRAC with GPIO to poweron/off the system too.

I have heard of KVMPI but something proprietary/commercial/off the shelf/not diy would be ideal

I love you, Home Server General anons.

>>102987830
Piss off

>>102979891
>Why are transcoding retards always filtered by manually setting up DLNA?
You know why. The transcoding retards are LTT fans who think you need a GPU to watch a movie.

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>>102984473
the disks are powered through a usb hub, right? Does it boot from sd?

pic rel was the setup described in and previous thread
>>102983206

>>102985669
>Also why IDRAC? How is that better than configuring remote login the normal way?
IDRAC is lights-out management. As long as the server is powered, you can manage it, turn it on or off, hard reboot, enter the bios, install an operating system etc. all remotely. You don't want this open to the internet, in fact you'd probably want it on its own separate lan.
Remote login to the running operating system is completely different.

>Do I have to be a buisness to buy this?
>We pride ourselves in our ability to serve businesses and individuals etc etc
They sell used, refurbished stuff, if they limited their sales to businesses they'd soon have no business since very few companies would buy used servers.

>>102987502
>does ne1 no of
I know the answer, but since you wrote like this I'm not telling

>>102988323

Yea, the sbc only has one usb port. So both hard drives, mouse and keyboard are connected to the hub.
The hub also has ethernet, but I opted to plug right into the board.

>>102988455

Sorry, yea, it boots from a 32gb sd. Only shit thing about this board is the expansion doesn't all for an SSD. I might look into getting a sbc that does.. Not sure if I need it though

>>102988582
I migrated my raspi4 from sd to ssd via usb3 and the improvement was noticeable.

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I really wish AMD had better documentation on their website. I'm trying to find a cheap, second hand CPU that supports ECC but there's no specification for a lot of CPUs, and for half of the CPUs with specifications they don't list ECC support yes/no. It seems that all CPUs without and iGPU generally supports ECC, but I'm scared of buying one that doesn't explicitly state support on the website.

>>102989317
yeah typical fucking AMD.

I had the same problem when i was building my NAS.

everyone just kept telling me hur go xeon if you want ECC

even the motherboards from Assrock Rack state
>4 DIMM slots (2DPC), supports DDR5 ECC/non-ECC UDIMM

>Supports AMD EPYC™ 4004 and AMD Ryzen™ 9000/8000/7000 Series Processors

the current state is fucking LAUGHABLE

also the RAID is broken.

>>102989317
also you probably want AM4

>>*For AMD Ryzen Desktop Processors with Radeon Graphics, ECC support is only with Processors with PRO technologies.

>>102989392
>I had the same problem when i was building my NAS.
Yeah, that's exactly what I'm doing too.

>>102989410
>also you probably want AM4
As opposed to AM5, or as opposed to earlier ones? Looking at AM4 anyways because still modern stuff but not latest greatest (i.e. expensive).

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>>102989452
cheaper, yes and you're getting the fastest of the AM4's if you buy 4th gen.

My R7 5600G was half price but i was also on a budget and didnt want to spend $800 on a server mainboard.

basically i couldnt get a clear answer
APU's need PRO
you need an expensive board
just go xeon

yada yada yada. i dont have new shit just laying around to try it with

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I have a mdadm raid 1 which suddenly became awfully slow, like 200KB/s when syncing. The drives themselves are completely fine, cpu usage is basically zero. Anyone have an idea what could be the issue?

>>102978258
No offense OP, but PUT THE FUCKING WIKI IN THE OP.

Temp wiki: https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Home_server

>>102989493
>5600G
That's a Ryzen 5, not a Ryzen 7

>>102989317
>Any AM4 CPU that is not an APU
>Any AM4 APU that is a PRO series (only inside prebuilts or marked up by eGay scalpers)
Links:
https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/server/ryzen.html#specifications
https://www.amd.com/content/dam/amd/en/documents/products/processors/ryzen/5000/amd-ryzen-5000-datasheet.pdf (mentions ECC)
https://www.amd.com/content/dam/amd/en/documents/products/processors/ryzen/7000/amd-ryzen-7000-processors-for-server-datasheet.pdf (does not mention ECC)

>>102989695
>>Any AM4 CPU that is not an APU
>>Any AM4 APU that is a PRO series (only inside prebuilts or marked up by eGay scalpers)
I've seen that repeated everywhere on the internet (especially on Reddit) but not from AMD themselves.

>>102980152
Who are you even quoting, schizo? Have you even looked at my post before replying?

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>>102989641
>R7 5600G
sorry 5700G

>>102989719
>I've seen that repeated everywhere on the internet (especially on Reddit) but not from AMD themselves.
My SoHo Server has a 3950X with 64GB of Kingston KSM32ED8/32HC. I'd show you, but it's down for maintenance for a while.
The only prerequisite is that the mainboard also does not actively block ECC RAM.
>>102989790
That's a Ryzen 7 indeed then.

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>>102989719
>>102989795
Also
>but not from AMD themselves.
See literally the second link in >>102989695 pic related

>>102989493
also DDR4 ECC is fucking EXPENSIVE

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>>102989806
It used to be cheap. Pic related is from December 2023. Current price: 105,89€. It's fucking insane really.

>>102989795
>>102989805
I'm not saying it doesn't work on non-APUs, I'm just complaining about AMDs documentation.

>>102989829
literally twice the price of non ecc ddr4 and also..oh not available, out of stock etc.

8x32 ECC DDR4 RDIMM for $270. Yes, it's registered and won't work on consumer grade mobos, but it sure as hell not expensive. Can't link ebay, as 4chan think it's spam.

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>>102989832
Fair enough
>>102989844
It quite literally is available ("Verfügbar" = available).
>>102989862
Since when is eBay considered spam?

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>>102989869
yeah but WHO buys KINGSTON RAM

>>102989886
It's ECC RAM Anon, it doesn't need to go fast. I think your knowledge about computers is better suited for >>>/g/pcbg/

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>>102978258
So what's the point of having 4 ethernet ports on a NAS? I see all these chinese shit-tier boards with 4 or 6 x 2.5Gbit ethernet ports. Wouldn't it be better to have just one or two 10gig ports and save the CPU interfaces for things like PCIe?

>>102990426
With 4 ports you can virtualize a router on your NAS

>>102990439
In retard terms please, what benefit would that have?

>>102990448
you can virtualize a router on your NAS

>>102990448
None, if you only want to use the system as a NAS.

>>102990468
Got it, thanks
>>102990464
I got that part, but why would I want to do that?

>>102990471
To have a less trash router than what you can buy at a store

>>102990426
It saves having to have your own switch/router. Sometimes people use dedicated storage networks for their devices.
Wouldn't be suprised if its cheaper to have 4/6 2.5gbit ports than a single 10gbit port. A lot of weird design decisions on devices are literally down to that.

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>>102981047
You're absolutely right. I use multiple routers, the carrier provided modem is a router, I have a N100 pc running vyos as the edge router that does LAN and unifi ap management, I have a virtualised vyos router on my home server so that all the shit on it is open to my computer and anything else I plug in but isolated from the general network, and I have a router running on a vps I can use as a vpn and other experiments. There is no valid reason to run a shitbox ARM SoC and prance around telling everyone how much more reliable it is when you have no backups of the configuration (mines rolled into the 3 2 1 backup strategy for the entire server), no readily available replacement hardware and no fucking clue in knowing what is fit for purpose for most peoples setups. The only thing these "muh cisco", "muh juniper" fuckos achieve is proving to everyone here that they're just as retarded as the ECC zelots running fucking nehalem era garbage like they're gods gift to the world.

>>102990558
>To have a less trash router than what you can buy at a store
>>102990646
>It saves having to have your own switch/router. Sometimes people use dedicated storage networks for their devices.
Isn't that overkill for a home network? I wouldn't trust my business' SAN with Ali-chinxpress devices.
>Wouldn't be suprised if its cheaper to have 4/6 2.5gbit ports than a single 10gbit port. A lot of weird design decisions on devices are literally down to that.
Prolly

>>102990426
Because those 2.5g chips are all connected to a single pcie lane and cost $3 plus a physical port which is just a 1gbe port since there's fuck all difference electrically. Meanwhile Intel are the only ones making 10gbe chips and they cost like $25 per chip, need 4 lanes to work properly and haven't been updated in 15 years so you're looking at 2x the power draw and TDP of the entire fucking computer they're going into. Until they get their shit together and actually produce a modern gen 4 IC you aren't going to see 10gbe outside of enterprise. In fact you aren't likely to ever see it because enterprise has long since moved on from such a slow interface.

>>102990839
Looking forward to skipping right to 1tb consumer networking!

I have recovered 4 healthy Barracuda drives from old computers: 1x1TB, 2x2TB and 1x3TB (total: 8TB). They have similar performance characteristics. I want to put them in my server where I mostly care about performance, not so much about redundancy (still would be nice to have tho). Is JBOD the only sensible option or is there some fancy ZFS/mdadm solution for drives of different sizes I'm not aware of?

>>102990839
>Meanwhile Intel are the only ones making 10gbe chips
Are you not aware of aquantia?
They are the biggest supplier of 10G NICs in consumer/"prosumer" shit
They also have a gen 4 version with the AQC113

>want to get better routing and lower ping to certain regions of the world to my server
>researching anycast etc
>test several vps's to find which have the better routing to certain major data centers
>scrolling leddit and see thread asking if vpn's can decrease their ping
>explain that it can under certain circumstances, such as where the VPN providers routing is more optimized for latency compared to your ISP which may prioritize cheaper but higher latency routes
>get massively downvoted and then banned "NO VPN'S CAN'T DECREASE PING BECAUSE A VPN IS JUST ADDING ANOTHER HOP, AND THE ENCRYPTION IS ADDED LATENCY, IMPOSSIBLE!"
le reddit tech experts

>>102989832
>I'm just complaining about AMDs documentation.
but it says it quite clearly in their documentation here >>102989805 thoughbeit.
Surely you are complaining about your inability to find the correct channel to find it in their documentation?
What a supremely strange choice of words..

>>102991090
I discovered this when I was 14 when I had a privacy schizo phase.
AWS accelerator is literally purpose built to get around shitty routing.

>>102990926
how are those actually compared to Intel? I'd expect them to be more power efficient, but are they reliable?
I'm thinking whether to buy used intel based card, new aquantia based card or SFP 10G RJ45 module + QSFP to SFP adapter for my ConnectX-3.

Mom said I can't run an ethernt cord down the stairs and across the the living room bros...
it's over...

>>102984978
Fun and learning for me mostly. I also have about 8TB of media I stream

>>102992150
Just drill holes in the walls , roofs and floors instead .
She can't be upset if she doesn't know about it

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What's the /g/eneral consensus on the Asustor Flashtor NASes?
Good choice for an all SSD media server/NAS?

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How does /hsg/ get internet to their home lab? I'm currently on the phone with Comcast (discustan) since they do my internet through a fucking COAX cable.

>>102993442
I suppose it depends on your needs desu. I looked up that NAS and it SEEMS pretty powerful, though could you get a dedicated board for cheaper with M2 slots?

>>102974262
Did you set the pnp port forwarding to enabled in qbittorrent settings? I recently did the same and it was disabled by default at first.
Other than that maybe your router?

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>>102990701
>>102981047
for toying on a homelab yes but having the entire household relying on a vm? bad idea
besides going against keeping things simple and not virtualizing at the edge you also get

latency due to overhead

general stability and uptime hit
hypervisor crashes randomly = your whole network goes down, remote access gone, you need to be on premises to fix it
reboot vm to update for security reasons = whole network goes down
any tinkering going wrong on the server or upgrade or update for maintenance and security reasons = whole network goes down

additional resources to backup and snapshot the router vm

another layer of complexity and point of failure to setup, to manage, to troubleshoot virtual nic and doing passthrough configuration.

adding possible security loop holes
adds the possibility of breaking out from the VM to the underlying hypervisor because all devices are now directly plugged into your VM platform, which has been demonstrated

if other VMs starts chewing resources your virtual network and firewall performance will objectively take a hit both networking and general IO

hitting more or less obscure issues like vtnet the KVM virtual interface not supporting more than 1 queue in pfSense and nobody cares to fix it
>https://forum.netgate.com/topic/138174/pfsense-vtnet-lack-of-queues/15

overall adds complexity, increased security vectors, additional management, increased failure points - all for almost zero payback

and if one of the main arguments is saving 7 dollars per year in electricity then there are more important issues to worry about besides running your router in a vm.

>>102993480
Are there a lot of cheap 6+ NVME boards out there?

Best kvm?

>>102991090
>NO VPN'S CAN'T DECREASE PING BECAUSE A VPN IS JUST ADDING ANOTHER HOP
ISP's n*ggers don't care about their ASNs so your data may be transfer through several countries without any reason. VPN can considerably decrease ping in some cases but you should first test it. I know that bleeding edge VPN protocols with obfuscation can bypass ISP's QoS because your traffic will look like HTTPS and don't forget to activate BBR on your server. But I think you should hide your server behind CDN, just buy a domain name and use gRPC for free. Why? Because their proxies almost in every corner of this gay planet.
>THE ENCRYPTION IS ADDED LATENCY
It depends.

>>102993655
I kinda went searching on Ebay so this might not be the best example but could you do a cheap MOBO and a few of these for the same price?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/375621119570?_skw=m.2+sata+mobo&itmmeta=01JB7JTRKYWWF1BAPFQWTWP25T&hash=item5774c36e52:g:YhAAAOSwrMNm0cjW&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA8HoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKkc44RIPFkPtRxKhxaInL%2Br0QQt4xay1FXL15jSyn%2BHpsBhFqwPKm0rtde6rMr5vdxHHILkB%2FMgb4I%2Byuyl3h%2Bbj1qxyHuKtAN%2FoauStSD%2BcLubkJYZ68C7XHi05Sc9g3xHjUkZh4L3D0edZSvFLVxKz7%2BdKczUSBTlfNLBgNDUlK0EX032L2oOrJd%2F48gYeoSk8G5IW5UwOlsX0lAHUsTY%2BcA%2BeEO6qnNPyQ0fPT6eH9dccVsZZFM3vxkI0mfZiUvMEP4o10CbMtfI%2FKjmg0KEPO4lfAE8I2xxs2iTDYdkDw%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR4iK6_LZZA

>>102993587
>latency due to overhead
Negligible for SOHO segment. I used to work behind double NAT (one of them was pfsense with 5 years of uptime).
>hypervisor crashes randomly
Use a real hypervisor but virtualbox.
>reboot vm to update for security reasons
VRRP.
>additional resources to backup and snapshot the router vm
Yeah, 300 MB is impossible to backup.
>another layer of complexity and point of failure to setup, to manage, to troubleshoot virtual nic and doing passthrough configuration.
Are you using RADIUS+VLAN+NPS? No? Then it's negligible.
>adding possible security loop holes
For example?
>if other VMs starts chewing resources your virtual network and firewall performance will objectively take a hit both networking and general IO
You can tune resource management.
>obscure issues
Negligible. That thing exists for every single topology and hardware. You are not a prophet.
>all for almost zero payback
Easy to manage, easy to migrate, easy to backup, easy to configure.

>>102993461
What were you expecting anon? DSL?
Cable is probably still the most common way to get internet in your home. Fiber isn't available in my area and it probably won't be for the next 10+ years. The only other reasonable options I have are LTE (actually disgusting) or satellite (starlink).

>>102994640
>What were you expecting anon? DSL?
GPON (1st world countries only)

>>102993514
As another anon said before, it's the IP of the VM, but to be fair, I didn't even started yet to get the full picture. Will do later, job it's fucking me up.

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My unraid stick just got corrupted after a graceful shutdown bros. I copied the config from my USB to a freshly created Unraid USB and we're good but man that was scary. Backup your configs guys

>>102990886
Ended up creating two LVM VGs, 1+3=4TB and 2+2=4TB. Still haven't decided if I'm going to strip or mirror them, got to benchmark first.

>>102995534
I wish they would just let me put it on my optane drive already.

>>102995951
I know. I love Unraid but I sometimes hate the decisions they make. That said, 7.0 is gonna be really cool.
>Tailscale integration
Has me the most excited

>>102995957
>unraid
>tailscale
Holy onions

>>102978258
Can ZFS do hotwswap with HDDs? If so, what do I need to pull it of? HBA?

>>102995534
So why don't they allow you to install to a real drive?

>>102996077
Further humiliation if paying for Linux wasn't already enough

Anyone know of SBC's with ECC support? Trying to find a little board to run windows server which looks like it needs ECC.

>>102996354
Probably nonexistent, due to sbcs having their memory soldered on and the use cases not needing ecc anyway.

If your uptime is less than 365 days, lower your tone when talking to me.

>>102997308
post your uptime or commit suicide

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>>102997667
Lol.

>>102993923
KVM over IP? KVM switches? gonna have to be specific.

>>102996354
for a vm?
use nutanix as the sbc os and host your hypervisor, it's supported

>>102978258
any good device for a risc-v server?

great thread

>>102997870
Touching grass

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Anyone have experience setting up TVHEADEND? I'm gonna try it with my cable box and a raspberry pi plugged in via ethernet

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>>102997308
Post uprecords faggit

Buying new vs refurbished HDDs: is the price difference worth the hassle? I think I value reliability over cheapness especially if I'm gonna be storing irreplaceable personal data (family photos, tax records, etc)

>>102998240
Refurbs aren't real.

>>102998204
And a Pi TV hat

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I seriously hope km just a retard and this won’t be as hard as I think it will be to fix.

I spent my whole weekend gathering and naming my family’s home videos to host on my server with jellyfin and I find out that I am unable to autoplay home videos on the firestick tv app. I would never use a firestick but my family all uses them and I need to figure this out since I want the videos to just play through a folder in the background during thanksgiving. Is there a jellyfin plugin or something I can use to enable this or some kind of external player I should use? I tried VLC and it doesn’t work.
I would really appreciate anyone’s help or recommendations for a different media server that doesn’t have this issue, I really want to do this for my family.

Just copped a Supermicro X10SDV-8C-TLN4F-O with an Xeon D-1541 and 128 GB ECC RAM. Totally overkill with that amount of RAM for the NAS I'm building, but I got it for an alright price, even cheaper than the auctions for weaker systems available over here. Now I just have to wait for a HDD lot to appear, and then I'm all set.

>>102993587
>for toying on a homelab yes but having the entire household relying on a vm? bad idea
Nope, it's fine idiot.

>>102999237
if you're using jellyfin, did you already check your settings?
check

Settings / Playback / Play next episode automaticall

>>102978258
I find making entire disk images with dd a good way to backup my stuff, but that takes up a lot of space.
Is it safe to run dd with

conv=sparse

to cut down on space? Could restore the image to a disk the same way as always if the image was made this way?

9th gen i5 vs 6th gen i7. i can get a system with either for about the same price. anything i should take in consideration or is one objectively better?

>>102983074
I mean, being real, is power *truly* an issue? I feel like even you guys who have a legitimate reason to cry about electricity prices, there's a weird focus on saving 5w at the cost of like $200 or saving 5w at the cost of significant convenience.

If you're picking between a 10w x86 machine and a 5w quirky, shit ARM SBC, unless I'm being an idiot, assuming you're paying like 0.40 EUR/kWh, you save, what, maybe ~1.00-1.50 per month? Don't bother. Similarly, if you've already got any existing hardware, and if you can check the powerdraw at the wall (you should have something to measure if you're genuinely concerned imo), test it out; it might surprise you how low-energy you can get even decade-old stuff running. And at that point, you need to factor in:

- A. Upfront cost difference and how many months/years the new device will take just to break even.
- B. The value of your time -- if you've already got stuff laying around, chances are it may be some sort of traditional-ish desktop, with actual genuine PCI-E slots and whatever else you may need; is it really worth trying to ghetto-hack your storage and networking into some ARM SBC?
- C. If you're concerned at all with the climate change/pollution aspect rather than simply the energy cost, it's worth remembering that *any* new device has a non-insignificant cost to the planet.

Anyway, all that in mind, if you're deadset on a new device, I would probably go with something like Alder Lake N (e.g., basically what you're already looking at), since, being x86, you can assume everything will likely build and run fine, and Intel FSP makes it easy to port many boards to coreboot. Otherwise, if I had to go ARM, personally, even if there may be more efficient options, I might look at something with a Rockchip RK3588, since it's OK performance-wise, cheap, and most importantly [to me], the only closed firmware blobs remaining are for DDR training - you have control over everything else.

>>102978258
What low power discrete GPU for console access do you guys recommend?

>i need a home server to stream my 45 Tb of Hentai and anime
This thread

>>102998240
I have 56 (yes I know) 3TB HGST SAS drives I got off some random recycler. Anecdotally, I haven't had any die in the four years I've had them and god knows how long the previous owner had them.

A. I think there is something to be said about the fact that failure rates are some of their highest in the first few years you own the drives.
B. If you're not retarded like me where you end up with literally so many drives it's actually a planning problem plus an energy problem, you will save a significant amount of money buying relatively high-capacity used drives than the latest and greatest.
C. If you buy used, you can likely afford more drives for the same price; if we're talking about worries of data loss, you can afford to allocate more of your storage to parity/mirrors, etc.

Also RE: C, again, really stupid, I'm not saying buy 56 drives, but in comparison to a single ~20TB+ drive that might at best give me like 250MB/s sequential across twenty terabytes, I can do ~7-9GB/s sequential r/w across my entire retarded pool, and I can push line-rate on my 100GbE NIC.

Idk, if I were gonna do it again, I'd probably just grab a more sane 8-16 drives, and definitely try to find myself a better sweet-spot between upfront $/TB vs. power + space + literally needing a whole separate chassis to fit the remaining drives; 14TB looks like it makes the most sense right now at <= ~$100, but if I could get the 18TB drives at <= $150 I would go for those instead.

>>103001086
What board/computer would you end up with if you picked one over the other? 8th-gen is when desktop i5s switched to being all six core parts, I believe, whereas 6th-gen i7s were still quad core. Between the mild generational uplift and having extra cores, I don't think there are many scenarios where a Skylake i7 would make more sense than Coffee Lake.

That said, if you're going to end up with some super nice board by going with the Skylake vs. some Foxconn meme prebuilt OEM board with proprietary connectors, bad I/O, crap VRM, etc, I'd take the Skylake and save my sanity, especially since, contrary to what Intel claimed, 100 series motherboards have no trouble running Coffee Lake parts after modding the BIOS -- 9th-gen still has DDR3 support, even -- so I could always go on Taobao/Aliexpress and get a 10th-gen mobile Comet Lake 8-core i9 that someone has soldered to an LGA interposer for desktops for $50 and it'd basically just work.

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Are there any reviews of these guys around? I can find reviews for the old MG08, but the "-D" series is newer, from 2021. I'm thinking of buying either these or the Seagate 8TB EXOS - they cost the same.

Thinking of buying a server rack cabinet and some rack mounted shelves for my converted SFFs, an enclosed one to keep the domestic terrorists from trying to sleep on them.
Anons that just use repurposed consumer hardware, where do you have your stuff situated?

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i used to be able to host game servers on my hs but now i cant and i dont know why and i get frustrated and double triple check everything and it doesnt work and i cry

I have a bunch of (admittedly probably kinda questionable) 2.5" hard drives, and I was thinking about putting together a system with them so I can offload local storage to them, then eventually as my neetbux build up, I can swap out drives to larger capacity retail/recertified drives
what would be the best method of utilising the drives? build out some cheap computer with a low power CPU (eg a secondhand skylake i3) then set and forget? or are modern SBC's good enough for, say, 4-8 (or more) hard drives (that aren't going full tilt)? I'm clueless with this stuff.
I have a case with plenty of drive bays, I have plenty of sata3 cables, and I'd likely only be using the computer as a storage box, no media transcoding or whatever.

>>102996070
>>102996070
Depends by what you mean hotswap. If you want to just yank out spinning drives and pop in a new one, then I am not sure.

How I did a swap of a bad drive was:
>Disconnect the vdev (pool) from the OS gui
>Remove the drive from the pool in the gui
>Remove the drive
>Pop in new one
>Add the drive to the vdev
>Allow some time to resilver

I think Truenas has a wiki to some effect. Was really easy desu but was a long time ago.

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>>102998237
>>102997706
>>102997667

I remember when I asked for uptime challenges and peeps bullied me for asking a dumb question and to stop having fun.

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>>103002048
PEBKAC.

>>102979606
I have a i7-4770S hosting a vanilla WoW server

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I'm an absolute noob when it comes to servers. I bought pic related for home assistant and Plex and perhaps some misc media backups.

What OS do I use? Something easy and reliable. Never used Linux before but I I'm open to learn.

>>103001382
I agree with this. You never will make it back for upgrades. But planning a new server it totally makes sense. You can buy titanium certified brand name PSUs for like +$20-$30 over bronze chink shit. For a system running 24/7/365 you are actually retarded for not doing this. Ive measured it myself idle power savings are at LEAST 10w not to mention even bettter under peak power draw.

Same with chips /mbs. If your server is chugging heavy loads all day then this shit doesnt matter but low c-state intel or amd chips are a must for most normal home server usages. These are 5% feast 95% famine use cases so it makes sense. Monolithic AmD pro chips and most xeon /atom chips shine here.

Newer hdds / fans actually use very little power compared to picking a shitty 5600x chiplet. The idle IO power draw of a 5600x is actually higher than the read/write power draw of 12+ hDDS and even a standalone HBA.

What i mean by IO is even if cpu usage is zero, those chips draw 15w+ just got to power the chiplet io interface. That is retarded and you are too if you builld a server around that .

>>103002319
You always will get a range of opinions here. But I recommend Truenas Electric Eel. Lots of youtube videos on setting up from scratch. Nice easy GUI and dragonfish used (finally) dockers for all the apps out of the box so you can do whatever you want with the server.

The only thing thats hard to get if you come from Winblows is setting / understanding user permissions. Its not rocket science but can fuck you up if you try to cheat or do complicated shit without understanding what you are doing. For most noob cases use groups wherever possible over users, as users can be added to groups later if you have problems.

Good luck!

>>103002362
>server general
>power savings are at LEAST 10w

https://www.indeed.com/career-advice/finding-a-job/how-to-get-your-first-job

>>102991090
>reddit tech experts
I got my reddit post deleted last week because
>this is not the time or place for russian propaganda
It was a wall of text about XCPng and Tailscale with a throwaway line where I mentioned a friend living in Kazan who setup a iperf server at his workplace and allowed me (UK) to run a bunch of tests.
I mean what do you expect from the orangemanbad crossdressing forum?

>>103002620
I guarantee I make more money than you ever have or will and I still care about energy efficiency. I insulated my house well, have a communicating hvac/furnace, and a geotherm pool in my huge as fuck yard. I turn off my car engine when waiting for my kids at sports too. Deliberately going out of your way to waste energy to show wealth is spic-nigger mindset mentality.

My server has a titanium PSU not only to save power but because they are just built far better than bronze dell chink shit in poweredge servers.

Even if money did matter to me, I still wouldn't buy a chink shit bronze psu because in 3 months the other one would already pay back the difference and have significantly longer warrantied life to boot.

Go troll on another board schizo.

>>103001382
>The value of your time
Not commenting on anything else - I view my time at home as worthless anyway. I may lie on the couch lazily watching youtube for several hours or tinker with my server, it's all the same. If it's interesting I'll do it, if it saves me 20 eurobucks I'll do it.

How do I view S.M.A.R.T. info on TrueNAS?
No, I don't want the little retard "SUCCESS" or "Errors: N/A" shit.
I want to see the self reporting values. The shit CrystalDiskInfo shows on Windows.
How do I make that happen?

>>103001496
Should get merged with /pcbg/ there is no difference at this point

>>102983504
anytime you're trying to figure something out just ask chatgpt, works 90% of the time

>>103001468
https://www.ebay.com/itm/293175285096

>>103004356
>$52.95

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I got my network fucking humming on OPNsense with a Ubiqiti access point. My server is fixed. I am the master of IT. Direct all your questions to me and I will direct them to someone lower than I to solve /g/

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>>102983504
Good shit man. That's how I got started too

>>102998240
I have only bought new HDDs because I don't want the hassle. Important data should be in a minimum of two different locations
>>103001086
9th gen i5 is the better option for quicksync alone

>>103002319
Ubutnu LTS. It works with everything and is easy to use. Due to its popularity there is lots of questions and answers on google.

>>103005105
This, but additionally I'd recommend installing Proxmox first and ubuntu server in a container. That way if you want to experiment with something else, you can just spin up a vm or a container and try it out.

>>103005178
>never used Linux
>install proxmox
Guy has probably only used Windows or only used Mac. Ubuntu is the best option like the other guy said

>>102983504
holy shit you worthless pissants always make everything harder than it needs to be just fuck off already

>>103005278
That's fair, while Proxmox isn't exactly difficult it does require some knowledge

>>103002319
I told you here why a T cpu is useless you fucking mongoloid learn to read next time
>>102979606

I'm quickly becoming incensed with my cheap Rosewill case without hot swap.
Anybody have suggestions for a solid case with at least 8 bays, that takes ATX motherboards, and has a solid storage backplane (or readily supports a good one)?

>>103005370
(You)

>>103004907
Nice desu. Nothing feels better than a smooth home network operation. What ubiquiti ap you go with? I got meme'd from this board with muh gartner magic quadrant into wasting hair on garbage cisco, myst, tp-link aps and their cancer controllers. For a non-schizo person not larping as a chain of global vacation resorts, the unifi wifi aps and controllers are just light years more user friendly and reliable than the others.

For example their topography map actually shows you what each client device is easily (i.e. iphone, ipad, galaxy s23fe, etc) . All the tp-link, myst garbage just shows mac addresess and expect you to somehow cross reference these from memory. Fuck them and fuck that.

>>103004907
sick. Post your setup

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>>103006821
>What ubiquiti ap you go with
I went with the U6-PRO Dual-Band Wi-Fi 6 Access Point.

And I agree -- Ubiqit products have always been my go-to. Prior to new home network (more on that in a second) I was using an Amplifi (Ubiquiti's consumer brand) Alien. GREAT products. Pricey though.

> All the tp-link, myst garbage just shows mac addresess and expect you to somehow cross reference these from memory. Fuck them and fuck that.
Oh yeah, I do all that in OPNsense, but the Ubiqiti app I use does show me who's on the AP.

>>103006866
Here. This is my first crack at a great home network, ever. I learned a lot about networking, but I fucking did not plan around Ethernet CORDS (ports are fine). so many internet spaghetti

From left to right:
>NETGEAR 8 Port PoE (GS308EP)
>$60 Ebay Dell Optiplex with an i5-7500, 8GB of RAM, added 256GB SSD and four-port Intel NIC
>Ubiquti U6-PRO Dual-Band Wi-Fi 6 Access Point.
>Some modem I forget, but I know it does 1GBPS and is some kinda DOCSIS compliant

All in all very happy desu. I'm running my network through AdGuard Home, Unbound DNS, and finally ZenArmor firewall (free edition). Comfy man

>>103006821
>>103006965
>OPNSense
>no pfBlocker-NG
Discarded.

>>103006965
based

>>103007042
I don't know what that really is desu i am still learning all this stuff. I know pfSense is supposed to be good though

>>103007075
:)

>>103007094
>I don't know what that really is desu i am still learning all this stuff. I know pfSense is supposed to be good though
Dont listen to that retard . OPNsense is more trustworthy and all you need

>>103007196
Good, I really like it so far. I think I'm learning a lot about networking in the process, lol. How it all fits together with my servers.

>>103006965
That can be your last network if you want it to be.
I have a setup with
>Supermicro X10SLH-F
>Xeon e3 1246v3 (equivalent to an desktop haswell i7)
>16gb ram (overkill but I have loads of ddr3)
>redundant boot SSDs
>2x inbuilt NICs
I plan to run it until the board starts delaminating, upgrading NICs as my ISP offers faster service (they only offer 1Gb atm in my area but they sell 2Gb in others)

I also have a Unifi AP-AC Pro, only WiFi 5 but I don't need more for other computers that just stream video and use YouTube 99% of the time

>>103007196
You are a complete and utter idiot.
There are countless large scale businesses running pfSense on their network, yet you think you know better than their network engineers? An anonymous idiot on 4chan? What a laugh.

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Bros I'm planning on putting together a mini-itx home server/nat.
This will be used for plex, homeassistant some vm's the usual shit.
> mobo has 4 sata ports but case has 6 drive bays would like more sata but those mobos are too expensive
> psu is probably overkill
> will throw in a used 1660 for transcoding
Any notes? Can I have 6 sata ports on a mini-itx build?

>>103007333
RETARD ALERT
Anon is about to buy a whole set of 4 SMR Seagate Shittacudas!

Please don't do this.
You should know better.

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>>103007286
So you're saying I have enough here to future proof me for awhile? Sweet. Also, cool network there anon. I wish I had gig.

>only WiFi 5 but I don't need more for other computers that just stream video and use YouTube 99% of the time
If it's just you that's valid. I have 6 users on my network + servers so I need some decent broadcast

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>>103007333
>seagate barracuda

>>103007333
Are you going to do parity drives? If so go higher on the drives.

>>103007333
The frogposter is right, don't get barracudas for data storage. I have Iron Wolfs which are decent for the price

>>103007333
Less and larger HDDs that have helium. The intels iGPU will transcode better than the 1660, no need for it in the server

>>103007361
>>103007371
>>103007373
>>103007385
Noted fellas will avoid the barracudas. I'd like to have additional 2x cache ssds but the mobo only has 4 sata ports.

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>>103007486
Here's how a lot of people do home servers now

>SATA for HDDs (Iron Wolf or better)
>M.2 slots for boot -- ideally you bought a board with two so you can have an NVME cache

Post link to mobo

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>>103007286
>Supermicro X10SLH-F
>Xeon e3 1246v3 (equivalent to an desktop haswell i7)
>16gb ram (overkill but I have loads of ddr3)
>redundant boot SSDs
>2x inbuilt NICs
Nice, that's almost exactly my setup too. Mine is an X10SLL-F, dunno what's different about it as it looks very similar. And I'm at 20 gigs of ECC. Other than that it's the same.

I too will probably be running this for quite a while, Haswell was one of the great Intel generations imo.

>>103007333
Also that NVME is QLC, I would spend a little more for TCL

Has anyone here applied heatsinks to their HDDs? Worth it?

>>103007627
No, use fans

>>103007632
I already have front-panel fans but my HDDs still reach 50c during parity checks on a warm day. I want to add heatsinks as well.

If you don't have experience, don't answer the question.

>>103007471
What about those refurbished enterprise drives? The 12400F does not have integrated graphics, but the 12400 is only like 50$ more.

>>103007512
Thanks, I should probably look for a different mobo with two m.2 slots. This one's literally the cheapest mini-atx lga1700 i could find.
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813145462

>>103007644
You could also PCIE a slot for an NVME.

>>103007671
Yeah I guess if I don't need the gpu for transcode I could use that slot for storage.

>>103007728
You don't depending on what intel CPU you get. For example, I have a i5 12500 in my Unraid machine with UHD770 for transcoding. Just get a CPU with a good iGPU

>>103007642
What exact drive models are hitting 50c?

>>103007762
Hes the troll, avoid the b8

Alright, that's fucking it. I'm done with these SATA card ASMedia pieces of shit.
What SAS card does /hsg/ use? I'll be running it in IT mode.

>>103007762
Seagate Ironwolf 10TB

>>103007810
Take your meds, spastic.

>>103007859
I have a Dell H310, which was already in IT mode when I bought it. Works just fine.
However I also never had problems with any of the chink sata cards I used before, probably many of them ASMedia.

>>103007923
For me its been nothing but pain. I've narrowed it down to the sata card because dmesg is flooded with links being marked down, brought back up, trying to negotiate speeds, then brought down again. I even tried to force the kernel to negotiate lower speeds and that didn't fix it either.
So I think raw SATA cards are just not for me. I'll go the SAS route instead and see if that fixes it.

I'm trying to put together a small home server to use in my truck for camping. It's mostly for home assistant. I've seen some cool integrations for radio sourced weather info from NOAA bands, OBDII port data gathering, lighting control, solar/battery monitoring, etc.
Setup and usage shouldn't be a problem, I have it running on my homelab already. I'm thinking an undervolted laptop could handle it and give me all the peripherals I need for troubleshooting, but the only one I have has an i7 6600u dual core. Is that enough to run homeassistant?

>>103007956
It runs really fucking hot so be prepared to install a small fan, unless your server is like a wind tunnel (mine isn't, pictured here >>103007566)

>>103007989
I run mine on i3-6100U and this piece of shit works just fine. Laptop is nice since it has a built in ups.

>>103007762
Shut up you fucking moron I said I want heatsinks.

>>103004162
Bump
Any answers?
You idiots never used TrueNAS?

>>103008318
Assuming you virtualised it on top of proxmox, you'd go to the datacenter view, select the server, select disks and click on Show SMART Values

>>103008253
My first idea was a nuc of some kind but laptops have a lot of selling points like the ups you mentioned and also built in peripherals to troubleshoot locally.
If your i3 is fine then I'm sure mine will be fine too, thanks anon.

>>103008384
>Assuming you virtualised it on top of proxmox
I never said that.

If you don't have experience, don't answer the question.

>>103007859
>I'm done with these SATA card ASMedia pieces of shit
welcome home, brother
>What SAS card does /hsg/ use?
anything based on LSI SAS 2008 should be good and cheap, just make sure that the given model can be easily flashed to IT mode.
Personally i've got Fujitsu D2607, mostly because they are dirt cheap in my country, but flashing is a bit annoying, you have to juggle some ROMs and hope for the best, so i wouldn't really recommend it.
Probably wiser to get something that's popular and straightforward to flash, i believe LSI and Dell ones?

>>103007863
That's not a model. There are multiple variants of 10TB IW. Post model #.

You might have an air drive that gobbles ~11W, if it were a He drive it would be like ~8W and your fans would probably be enough to keep it cooler.
If it is a He model your cooling is just shit.

>>103008318
I was the one who asked, turns out 'sudo fuckmyass smartctl -a /dev/anus' works in shell but it prompts asking for an admin pass when entering which is annoying.

Ideally this should be part of the GUI and not an elevated command or something, pretty dumb needing a pass just to check S.M.A.R.T. values
and oh btw it's every time you open shell you have to re enter it


>log in to machine
>navigate GUI to shell
>type command
>have to enter password again, even though I just logged in 3 seconds ago
like really, honestly, what the fuck
this ain't some rm rf command checking S.M.A.R.T. should be unrestricted

>>103008622
Why wouldn't I assume the most sensible setup? If you made mistakes during your build, don't blame us.

If I factory reset my managed switch (can't get into the webUI on its default IP) will I have to reconfigure all the ports and shit plugged into the switch? I kinda figured those would be provided by OPNsense

>>103008026
Thanks anon, that's what I gathered from others. I ended up going with a Supermicro AOC-S3008L-L8e but the advice looks to be the same there. I'll strap a fan to it.

>>103008318
If you need an alternate nice looking tool, there is a web based solution you can run in docker called "scrutiny" which I've seen being recommended a few times.

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wtf did they put the bracket on wrong for this adapter? got it from ali express

How come coffee lake Xeons are still fetching 3-600 dollars?
This is ridiculous.

>>103001382
In general i agree with your assessment. Unfortunately i may have misinterpreted my proprieties. I'm not looking for the lowest power shitter available, but one in general, doing all the other stuff as well.
My whole post might have been better worded as
>This N100 seems to do everything i want, does it really do that though?
Although, doesn't matter too much now. Pulled through yesterday over a beer, after I couldn't find anything better for the task.

>>103009020
Well, still can't access it at the default address, and I think I've tried every single IP on my leases...

>>103009138
>not obsolete
>production stopped

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hope this goes well

>>103009554
That looks retarded

>install automatic ripping machine to archive the last of the CDs I have
>it doesn't even detect the disks and I have to run it manually everytime
So much for automatic. Might as well just use basic abcde.

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>>103009581
I have no where to put it in my bedroom so I had to make do

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>>103009554
>>103009706
>right next to the radiator

>>103009706
If you have no where to put it why did you buy the largest server you could. You will have to turn it off every night if you sleep in the same room.

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>>103009706
based, maybe you can tuck it between some furniture, put it on top of something etc.

>>103008816
Stop replying loser you don't belong here

daily reminder to make sure EVERYTHING you do is being backed up. you should have dedicated storage only for backups.

data loss should not be a thing for home server owners. there is no excuse to not have backups.

>>103009554
why did you buy a rack mountable server if you have no server rack?? how do you even move around in that tiny room. it looks like the size of my closet.

>>103009706
computer guys make due

*walking away from dripping usb cable*

>>103009993
i hope someone rapes you

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>>103009554
>>103009706
https://wiki.eth0.nl/index.php/LackRack
just get an ikea rable as a server rack
pic related but not my own setup

>>103009993
You can't figure out some smart readings, and I'm supposed to be the idiot?
Is this some of that projection I keep hearing about?

My plex server has become very popular with my family, and I'm getting sick of managing their media requests.
I'm currently running Plex and Sonarr which worked well for me, but I'm thinking of adding Overseerr so that everyone who has a Plex account can request whatever they want.
Anything I need to watch out for with that?
I'm also thinking of signing up to a Usenet for better media availability (I currently get everything through nyaa, tpb or 1337).
I know nothing about Usenet, where should I start?

>>103011104
>I know nothing about Usenet, where should I start?
You'll need a tracker, which usually costs money.
Then you'll need a provider, most people use Newshosting, this also costs money.
Then you'll need a downloader, and for that its SABnzbd or nothing.
Its all worth it though. Insane DL speeds and huge access.

>>103011123
I knew it would cost, just wanted to make sure I chose correctly the first time because I hate stuffing around.

>>103011140
I'm using NZBGeek, Newshosting, and SABnzbd.
If you want personal downloads on your own machine, NZBGet isn't bad either.

>>103011104
I run Prowlarr,Sonarr,Radarr withJellyseerr and Jellyfin. Qbittorrent runs through Gluetun for a VPN. it all works pretty seamlessly and it's all part of the same Docker Compose file so it's simple to deploy. My family searches for the thing in Jellyseerr, requests it, it gets approved automatically, downloads in QBittorrent, sorts into appropriate folder, Jellyfin scans and it's in the library to watch. Ezpz and worth setting it up - obviously you can substitute Plex in this setup for Jellyfin.

Does anyone have a sata optical drive working in a vm? From all I've read it seems like you need to use a usb adapter then pass through the usb controller for it to work, but I haven't found an adapter that works. The drive I'm using is an LG WH16NS40. Proxmox as the hypervisor, tried in ubuntu 22.04 server lts and arch.

>>103011104
Usenet is by far the best investment I've made for my server

>>103011123
>>103011174
Any thoughts on usenet vs. private trackers?

>>103011213
Main thing with usenet is the files are hosted on servers and can sit for years and years, but will download at line speeds when called for.
Trackers are always at the whim of seeders, and if you want something old or obscure then good luck.

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Anyone use a proxmox host with your “main” os in a vm with gpu, usb, physical disk, etc passed through? Thinking about boxing up my current windows install and throwing it into a VM but I’m afraid it would just amount to a troubleshooting nightmare

>>103011401
I've thought about this too but I cannot believe that windows would work in a VM without ass loads of tinkering.

>>103011401
I just set up a machine yesterday with Proxmox running Win 11 IoT as a VM for gayming. GPU passthrough was simple. You'll be editing GRUB and the conf file for the VM, but it's not overly complicated. If you run into any issue, ChatGPT, Claude, etc is really good at troubleshooting specific errors you'll run into and you can feed it your conf file text to get help with it vs trying to dig through forum posts and asking dickheads who will just tell you to use the search function.

If you want to run Moonlight/Sunshine, don't run the VirtIO for your NIC, just use the E1000 Adapter in your VM config. That was my only real issue and I spent hours troubleshooting just that alone. Couldn't get Moonlight to pick up display output. Switched out the NIC designation and it immediately solved my issue. I've got it set to auto boot so I can just turn on that machine and windows will display on the monitor attached to it as if Proxmox isn't even there. I don't notice any performance loss.

computer noob
why should I set up a server when I can just use my own computer?
Whats the difference between a server and a pc

>>103011511
Nice, that’s exactly what I’m wanting to do. I was wondering how the system felt. Did you pass any other hardware other than GPU to windows?
Also, do you happen to know if windows 11 LTSC support auto HDR?

>>103011532
Sounds like you probably shouldn’t set up a server if you don’t have a use case for it
A “server” is just a computer whose purpose is to deliver content, run services, store your data, take on long term, high compute loads and so on. If you don’t need any of that then you don’t need a server. If you’re looking for a use case for a server most people start with a NAS for storing shit and media streaming

Should I get a minipc to install *sense on it and replace my router? Is it better to get something dedicated to it while getting a second minipc for shit like proxmox with VMs and pihole?

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>>103011532
It gives you more flexibility with your computer. So instead of just running windows that owns and manages all your hardware resources, you can run several different OS at the same time and give each of those virtual machines a limited amount of resources, you can run different containers that run media services and home automation etc with more efficiency and manageability. To put it in caveman terms, It make one computer many computer.
Proxmox also has the capability of moving your entire windows installation and other virtual machines to a different machine to run it there in case the main machine has to go down for any reasons. There's a lot of reasons for both home users and enterprise users, but those are a couple.
>>103011539
Not for this particular one, but on another box I run Unraid and I passed through a bunch of hard drives. So if I really wanted to, I could just boot directly to Unraid and still recognize those drives instead of virtualizing it. Passing through USB stuff is really easy -- you just go to the hardware tab and can add USB devices in the menu and they pop up in the Windows VM like you plugged it in. The GPU, you need to turn on VT-D/IOMMU in your bios, edit Grub with the PCI addresses for your device so you assign the GPU to the IOMMU/passthrough group, and you blacklist the blackwell/default GPU driver Proxmox would try to load so the GPU remains free and unused. You reload those modules, reboot, then edit your conf file for the VM you're trying to pass them through to, and let it know which PCI devices you're passing through to it. There's also some CPU flags and other things that you need too. But the entire point is assigning stuff to the passthrough group so Proxmox doesn't try to mount it while booting and make it unavailable to VMS.

Proxmox can't interact with it directly until you edit grub again to unassign -- but you can assign stuff to different VMS as long as they aren't running at the same time. VM conf pic

>>103011612
I've got OPNsense on the same server as other containers/VMS and it kind of sucks when I need to reboot and internet goes down for all my devices. It's worth buying an SFF or minipc to run it independently.

>>103011539
This is another thing I passed through -- a 4 port Intel NIC to my OPNsense VM.

>>103011666
Nice dub trips
If I want to use wireguard VPN, would it be better to install it on the separate minipc instead of the OPNsense device?

And what kind of specs should I look out for if I don't want any kind of slowdown? Should I get something with 2 NICs in it?

>>103011714
>And what kind of specs should I look out for if I don't want any kind of slowdown? Should I get something with 2 NICs in it?
My understanding is that opnsense runs quite well on almost anything. As long as you aren't buying 15 year old e-waste or something it should be fine. A lot of people get the tiny ThinkCentres and use those (this is what I did). Or you can go with the various prebuilt boxes on Amazon.

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Am I the only person in this thread running a plain old boomertech setup?
>no virtualization
>raid 6 + jbod backups
>samba
>apache
>svn
>openvpn
>transmission
It just werks, and it's just werked for almost 15 years now. Why fix what isn't broken?

just bought 4 more 18TB hard drives. i have a problem

>>103011572
>>103011662
Thanks anons very insightful

Getting a job where I fuck around with servers and all kinds of electronics killed my desire to do anything at home.

>>103011736
I started virtualising when my exim server was hacked, before that I was like you

>>103011714
What exactly are you trying to do with the VPN? Remote into your network? I just run Tailscale on the individual machines, but I also don't have a lot of need to remote into my entire network. And for torrent VPN, I just run Gluetun in my docker stack where that adapter routes through OpenVPN and my VPN account. Tailscale really siimplifies the process if you're just trying to remote into your machine though, and there's ways to run it trustless.

OPNSense doesn't really need anything with crazy specs desu, especially if that machine is only running OPNsense. Look up minimum specs and decide what your use case is. For ports -- In my case, I have a 4 port NIC - 1 is my WAN in, 2 is going from that NIC to the NIC built into the motherboard on the same machine, 3 is going to the machine sitting next to it, and 4 is going out to a switch. So I have different subnets for each of those 3 ports that aren't the WAN.

In your case, it sounds like you might just need 2 ports -- I'd go with 2.5gbe ports -- 1 port is from your modem, the other port goes to a switch. I'd go with a managed switch so you can play with setting up VLANs.

>>103011764
This is why I stopped trying to turn all of my hobbies into a job.

>>103011735
If I'm only running pfsense or OPNsense on a dedicated machine, then I guess I'm going for a cheapo prebuilt unless building a better one myself is cheaper.

>>103011771
Right now I would be using the VPN to access my media files on my network so I can watch stuff on Jellyfin while I'm on the road. I have that setup in my rpi through a wireguard container right now.

My overall goal is to replace my current router with a pfsense/OPNsense router, a managed switch, and a wifi AP. My current router keeps needing to be rebooted or unplugged and I want something much more reliable. My friend convinced me to not go the ubiquiti route and to go the router+managed switch+AP route. I think I might build a SFFPC and use that as a proxmox server to host VMs with containers like pihole and to fuck around with other OSes and config.

>>103011869
Gotcha. You could run Wireguard on OPNsense if you want to, or you could just install Tailscale on one of your machines, which operates on Wireguard as well and simplifies the entire thing, advertise the subnet route, and access any of the IPs for that network. Personally, I'm a fan of leaving OPNsense as simple as possible because I tried adding in OpenVPN and routing stuff through it, but it fucked up all my NAT. Probably a skill issue on my end desu.

>>103011780
wisdom

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>>103006965
ubiquiti as a whole is a consumer brand, they have no features.