first

The RTX 4070 Super is NOT a 1080p gaming gpu retart

>>103002895
It absolutely is, unless you want to use DLShit-Smearing and fake frames.

>>103002895
>12gb vram
you're 1080p now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S10NnAhknt0
16gb is the new 1440p (7900gre)

>i9 price for an 8-core CPU
AMD needs to have some disaster happen to them again.

>>103002920
>i9
Get with the times, it's Ultra 9 now.

>dl msi center to update bios
>click install and go do cooking n shit in the meanwhile
>pc didnt brick
another day that could've been the worst but wasnt

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ultra

>>103002935
The alternate tech tree is not canon, they will memoryhole it by the end of the year and release Raptor Lake on 18A.

>>103002920
be thankful it costs only i9 pricing for i11 performance

>>103002920
But its okay when NVIDIA does it, right? faggot

>>103002955
All CPUs with estrogen cores are not canon. Intel's last i9 was the 11900K.

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>>103002974

>>103002974
Im fairly sure intel will release ecoreless cpus for desktop next gen
they're just losing to amd in all gaming scenarios otherwise

>>103002895
Not even the 4080 super is enough for 1440p gaming, not to mention 4k, it's just not a viable resolution

>>103002992
>they're just losing to amd in all gaming scenarios otherwise
That would be ideal, the eCore stopgap has been a disaster

>>103002920
I bet you thought the 9900K was amazing.

>>103002992
They should do the oposite. the e-cores aren't the problem.

>>103003039
This, I want to see a e-core only 16-core CPU.

>>103003088
>want to see a e-core only 16-core CPU
the 7950x already exists.

burn in is something that happens if you leave excel or fox news on 24/7 for years
not if you play factorio for 8 hours

>>103003142
It will happen regardless OLEDkek, organic materials degrade a lot more rapidly than inorganic compounds.

>>103002839
Is it bad?
it seems the same as the rest of the 4k qoleds
just without usb hubs and no dolby vision support.

OLEDbros, our response?

>>103003258
>it seems the same as the rest of the 4k qoleds
>just without usb hubs and no dolby vision support.
All the 4K QD-OLEDs are the same minus some features like you mentioned and of course price. I'd get whatever is cheapest for you.

>>103003258
Why buy a monitor without usb hub
where are you meant to attach your kb and mouse

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>>102999577 #
Any game isn't going to have more than 8 cores of dependencies any game that scales to more than 8 is using it for shit like physics which doesn't care. Fuck. Dependencies isn't just for games you know
>said you don't even own a ryzen CPU, so how would you know?
Hardware interests me

>>103003361
To your MB? retard

>>103003258
Completely unrelated and I know you're probably dead set on getting a 4k display and probably got a 4090 or will get a 5090 but as someone who's had a 4k display for a while for reasons, most of the time you'll want to downsize the resolution to 1440p and sometimes even 1080p to maximize framerates, and these resolutions usually look ugly on a 4k display. I'd get 1440p instead, you get the best of both worlds.

There's a fiber company available in my area now. Is it worth changing over from xshitity?

>>103003383
I already have a cheap ips 4k display.
and one game i downscaled to 1440p looked okay.

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>>103003159
OLEDs are great for TVs (unless all you watch is news) but yeah pcs are static element packed I will continue using IPS monitors until micro LED becomes affordable and makes oled obsolete.
>b-b-but the blacks..
Once you're used to it they stop looking gray and start looking black, idk why or how but they do.
>muh response time
A good IPS has adequate response. Unless you're always at 120+ fps, OLED's "perfect" response time can male things feel choppy and bad sometimes... which brings me to my final point:

WHERE are the 1440p oled monitors? Everything is at least 4k for some reason. 1440p is THE sweet spot for pcs. Appreciably more screen real estate and pixel density than 1080p but still able to run at pretty high refresh rates. 27" 1440p oled and maybe I'll think about it. Maybe.

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like a fine wine

>>103003475
yeah but in reality you're spending 450€ on a 8 core cpu that isnt very good at productivity while having within 10% same performance as 5600x at 1440p

what did he mean by that?

>>103003523
Ignore

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>>103003483
the way CPU performance measured with FPS is retarded, where are my loading screen times, possible asset pre laod hic ups, LOD loading delays, texture buffering delays?
All of this is avoided by 1. eight cores 2. fast IPC 3. decent multithread because CPU has time for everything see 1.

>>103003581
well at most you see someone making a video focusing between snappiness of a cpu between generations
or digital foundry goes "the best cpu has less stutter than worse ones" in a particular game

>>103003475
I mean 5800x3d of course

So if I'm building a minimalistic gaming PC, I only need a single core CPU that's really fast right?

Can I tweak the Power Limit states on a B760 motherboard and non-K CPU?

>>103003653
you want a 9800x3d

>>103003653
buy a used 7800x3d for $350

>>103003653
What's your budget?

>>103003604
Yeah, 7800x3d and 5800x3d are both goated.

>>103003653
If you're content with gaming on TempleOS, yeah.

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>>103002997
>4080 super not enough for 1440p

>>103003653
No, you need multiple cores so the main simulation of the game runs uninterrupted while subprocesses and OS stuff are kept on other cores. But even even low-end has 4 cores 8 threads nowadays.

>>103003712
Gaming is gay, but gaming on temple os is pretty based.

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>>103003712
That's it. I'm gonna game dev for TempleOS

>>103003716
Can it max out every game and maintain 60fps without memescaling? Yeah, didn't think so either.

4090 is not good enough for 720p

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Never paid much attention to storage but now I need to do some upgrading.
From what I understand from the guide (and checking in my machine), my B450 Tomahawk Max has a slot right in the middle that should be compatible with a SN580.
Is there any worthwhile difference or trap between the "WB_Blue SN580" and the "WB_Black SN770"? It's less than 10 bucks more for same capacity but +20% speed (and I don't understand the other parameters much). Is there a catch or something?

Also is there any brand/model recommendation for USB-accessed HDD nowadays?
Ideally something with a lot of space and stability - speed isn't much of concern for those since it will be to store backups, photos, old games or paperwork.

it sure is useful reading the amd anti-upscaling schizos posts

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>>103003771
its over

>>103003766
The 4070 ti super can already do that without faggy ss you retard, obviously the 4080 can do it.

>>103003604
5800x3d does not exist anymore so the comparison is not valid

>>103003817
dafuq. games 3 times heavier don't look 3 times better. what the fuck are they doing with their code?

>>103003766
the 3080ti was good enough for 1440p anon

>>103003789
Go with WB Black, the prices are just really close for no reason. Blue isn't even more reliable, Black has higher MTBF and endurance.

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Day 571 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.

I game at 1440p with my 1070ti

I game at 1440p with my GTX 560 Ti

I game at 8k with my 9600GT

I game at 4k with my HD4890

>>103003851
the power of gdeflate

>>103003789
>HDD
Quality is crap everywhere. Just find the cheapest Amazon recommendation shit and buy several of them for redundancy.

>>103002895
Nah, if your VRAM<=12GBs, then it’s for 1080p

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https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-beats-the-7800x3d-by-26-percent-in-leaked-blender-benchmarks-outpaces-even-the-current-generation-ryzen-7-9700x-by-11-percent

>slower than arrow lake and 14th

AMDSISTERS...

is 265K still bad?

>>103004043
yes

any real reason why amd discontinue 5800x3d

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Fuck quiet fans and shit, make a contra-rotating case fan to maximize CFM and dB

>>103004064
they replaced it with the 5700X3D

>>103004082
They have server fans like this and it sounds like a jet taking off. You might want one of those.

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>>103003825
>The 4070 ti super can already do that without faggy ss you retard
Why lie on the internet anon? Pic related is not even RT Overdrive btw.

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Bros should I upgrade to the 9800X3D?

>>103004083
yield not good make 5800x3d ?

>>103004043
its avg. for ~400 its fine for what it is

>>103004112
they're keeping the good dies for threadripper support

>>103004107
What do you have right now? If it sandy bridge, probably yes.

>>103004158
Zen3 threadripper? Come on anon. They probably stopped production and are on to producing only zen5 chips.

>>103004064
they're sunsetting am4 and pushing people to am5

soo,, is getting rid of SMT good or bad thing?
+ No vulnerabilities there
- Doesn't look as cool in task manager
others?

>>103004161
I got the 7800X3D

>>103004064
They ran out of Zen 3 3D v-cache chips that can hold its clock speed and are using what's left for the 5700X3D.

Hello anons, I have a 5700x , 4060 and a B550 Mobo. I want to upgrade my ram to 32gigs , Would you recommend a ddr5? or stay at ddr4

>>103004103
>temp 48 c
:^)

>>103004181
>frees up all registers, l1 and l2 cache for a single thread, reducing latency and slightly improving st perf
>significantly reduces thermal density, allowing you to push more voltage and clock higher
its good if you still have enough threads after disabling it

>>103004195
Stop consooming, leave this general and don't come back for the next 5 years.

>>103004195
no

>>103004175
I actually meant EPYC, basically its for legacy support should a customer who paid $9000 for a CPU need a replacement. the 7773X has 800mb of L3 cache on its 8 CCDs.

>>103004209
YOu can only put ddr4 ram anon, go with lowest cl latency you can find. IDK about ddr4 ram, something like cl16, DDR4 4600.

>>103004245
What in the actual fuck? AMD has such chips?

>>103004209
Motherboards only support one type of RAM and AM4 is all DDR4. You don't have a choice.

>>103004246
Alright, thanks anon

>>103004209
ddr4 3200cl16 if your on a strict budget
otherwise, 3600cl16, 3600c14 or even 3800c14 if you're mr moneybags

>>103004215
What about it?

Is there a difference between manually setting the refresh rate in my monitor's settings vs doing so in window's settings? Like, if window's sets my monitor's refresh rate to 165 hz but in my monitor's settings it's set to 144 hz, what will really be the refresh rate?

What CPU comparison site is trustworthy and reliable? what about userbenchmark?

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>>103004222
>>103004226
Cya in 5 years

>>103004259
Zen 5 Epyc has an 192 core cpu with 384mb of L3 cache, and a 16 core cpu with 512 mb of L3 cache... I guess they must be triple stacking the V-cache on that model.
AMD has not been resting on their laurels.

>>103004377
see you next month :^)

>>103004377
Good bye anon. We'll miss you.

>>103004372
CPU Monkey, Userbenchmark is a joke.

>>103004175
>They probably stopped production and are on to producing only zen5 chips
Server cpus will keep being produced long after they're obsolete (which zen3 isnt) because of contract deals

>>103004385
>I guess they must be triple stacking the V-cache on that model.
Nah they're doing something crazier on those. Basically, fusing off 7 cores on a 8-core ccd and leaving each core have its own 32mb L3 cache

>>103004372
This looks ok: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

I think I've heard of pass mark on some review websites. Everyone hates on userbench mark.

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it's like all components I buy these days suffer from coil whine
when I move my mouse I hear electric sizzling noises

>>103004430
Start buying shittier fans so you don't hear it.

i have 6700k, will whatever current gen CPU be massive upgrade?

>>103004625
What do you do with your PC? Do you want something and its not running?

>>103004430
its mostly in your head or you just have tinnitus

>>103004040
>has less cores
>is slower

>>103004650
web browsing with many tabs, coding, mild gaming, video watching..
everything works still, but it feels sluggish, especially when trying to multi-task

>>103004686
Upgrade then anon.

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>>103004218
*blocks your path*

>>103004040
8 ryzen cores 30% slower than 20 intel cores?
that makes a ryzen core 350% faster than an intel core.

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/explorer/diy-builder/power-supply-units/corsair-12v-2x6-90-degree-angled-gpu-power-cable/

corsair psu brothers, it's finally our turn

the future is amd cpu + amd gpu
they stack l3 cache in both dies
linux unlocks the bottlenck in drivers & scheduler

>>103004919
do gpus benefit from vcache?

>>103004919
yeah lets wait till RDNA5 comes out anon

>>103004103
>RT enabled

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>>103004949
RDNA2 has cache inside the die
RDNA3 has cache outside around the die
RDNA4 and beyond is going back to inside the die but with more & next gen version of it
https://www.pcgamer.com/amd-infinity-cache-rx-6800-xt-rx-6800-rdna-2/

I should be using the amd driver sRGB clamp secret option over my monitors sRGB mode that locks out my contrast setting and makes my monitor too bright right?

>>103003766
>Can it max out every game
a 4090 can't do that
some games are just unoptimized
ask a more reasonable question

>>103004970
Read the OP retard:
>Can it max out every game and maintain 60fps without memescaling?
>max out
Neither the 4070Ti S nor the 4080S are 1440p cards, maybe 1080p.

>>103004986
that would make sense with the new vcache that 9800x3d uses which is stacked behind the compute chip not in front so there are no issues with cooling anymore.

>>103005074
Rt only exist to bait people into buying hardware for the next 5 generations because it doesn't do shit but kill performance. Doesn't count

>>103005184
>Doesn't count
Concession accepted.

Is a 7700XT a good match for a i5-14400F?

>>103005216
For what use anon? Watching 8k tentacles?

Is Cyber Monday / Black Friday actually a good time to buy tech peripherals like a monitor or headphones, or are the price cuts a lie somehow?

>>103005415
Use a price aggregator with price history monitoring.

>>103005415
Monitor the price history anon, either manually or with a third party app. IDK if pcpartpicker already has this, I use a similar website and it has that.

>>103004883
Make sure you pick the right style orientation relative to your card's power header.
Fucking faggots at Seasonic designed their 90° cable to accommodate Asus' upside-down header placement, no other variants.

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>>103004883
What connector clip is this? Some corsair specific one?

>>103002997
what's a 1440p GPU then

>>103005689
12vhpr, new connector for GPUs from new genration of atx3.0 and 3.1 PSUs. It replaces the old 2 to 3 psu cables for GPU.

>>103005415
tech is usually cheaper in the summer when everyone normal is outside

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How to improve my white setup?
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/Mw9pjH
Mainly for AI gens, lurking and rarely gaming.
Budget is 2500€, Germany.
Is water cooling just a meme? I could save like 100€ on the CPU cooler if yes.

>>103005837
>Is water cooling just a meme?
It is if the AI workloads don't push the CPU that hard.
If you're sticking with an AIO, I'd get one with a larger radiator, 280~360 minimum.

how much of a completely worthless fucking moron would i be if i used etching cream to frost my glass panels?

>>103005837
You could get a Deepcool AG620 or Thermalright PS120SE and save some monies. You could also save monies by getting arctic aio. For PSU, you could get a white super flower leadex vii white PSU. I think corsair also has a white rm850x 3.1.

For the same price, you can get a x870 pro rs wifi. Why this board? Not that this board is bad, but usb4, wifi 7 and other features.

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I was hoping the 7950x3d would come down in price with the new release, but the jew is artificially constraining supply so it is actually increasing in price. This is ridiculous.

>>103004718
what's the wattage comparison?

>>103005968
thats what you get for being a pedophile

>>103002860
Redpill me on Apevia

>>103005968
What are you using it for? 7950x and 7900x is pretty reasonable and I think are better in some ways.

>>103005326
For gaming, Will the i5 bottleneck the 7700XT at 1440p?

>>103005968
just buy it god dammit

>>103006005
IDK anon, 7700xt is low end, I think you might need 7800xt or 7900GRE. I don't gayme so wait for someone knowledgeable.

>>103005989
Dev related stuff, C# in Visual Studio, VMs, transcoding random stuff for 4chan webms and video games. And the lower power draw than the 7950x appealed to me, since it means it's cheaper to run and my room will be cooler.

>>103006027
I'm going to look like a fool if I buy it a week after it gets $100 more expensive. But I might.

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>>103005968
>I was hoping the SKU with the best client CCD/CCX would come down in price

>>103005944
>If you're sticking with an AIO, I'd get one with a larger radiator, 280~360 minimum.
ok
>>103005967
>Why this board?
because it's white, X670E, wifi and bluethooth.

>>103006053
I bought 7900x for dev stuff and running VMs 4chins and animu. 7950x3d draws less power than 7950x because its gimped. because of x3d on zen4, its not able to clock higher. Just get the 7950x or 7900x. If you are really worried about power, get 9900x. For ffs, they reduced from 170w of 7900x to 120w in 9900x with performance increase. 7900x also comes with eco mode which is pretty cool. Other than 7800x3d, its a bust on zen4.

>>103006110
x870 pro rs is white, comes with wifi7 and bluetooth if that matters.

>>103006127
the x870s are buckets of lies anon evil evil lies

>>103004103
>48c when pulling 270w
what the fuck do they just max fan speed the whole time?

You don't need more than B650

>>103006177
(YOU)

>>103006127
yeah just saw it. Just switched it out.
thanks.

>>103006115
Local pricing makes the 7950x and 9900x retarded buys currently, and I'm not fond of the 6 core ccds in general. Currently 7900x or 7950x3d used are by far the best options if the x3d doesn't come down in price when the next gen x3d releases.

Are there any thermodynamical "rules of thumb" when it comes to air cooling or is it basically just "trial and error lmao"

>>103006199
Where I live, there are no good used zen4 chips. I searched. For me, new 7900x was a great deal.

>>103006195
It would say x870 pro rs wifi, take the wifi one anon.

>>103006153
Why do you say that anon?

>>103006231
The 7900x costs almost $100 more than the 7950x here kek

>>103006258
For me, b650 asrock boards were more expensive that x870 boards. B650e and x670e were priced insane, still are.

>>103006202
Assuming your case can deliver relatively unobstructed airflow, just have enough front intake fans (2~3x 120mm) and one rear exhaust fan.
Top & bottom fans are less impactful unless it's a space-restricted mini case.

>>103005969
ryzen consumes half the power

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>intel

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>>103006258
>>103006283
Prices in my country, 1$US=500CRC

5080 when

>>103006577
never faggot
die

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Upgrading the CPU and mobo on my backup PC.
Going from 8700K and Ascrack Z370 to a 5700x3d and Gigglebit B550 Aorus Elite mobo.

>>103006852
>ibuypower keyboard
anon please
you have the money for something better than that

>>103006852
whats with the plushies
are you female or gay?

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>>103006886
Backup. PC. That's just for testing. This is my regular PC.

>>103006914
I'm a wildlife photographer and do a lot of fox pictures. People give me all sorts of fox stuff.

>>103006924
wut about moo cows?

>>103001731
>>103003258
MSI oleds have the shittiest OSD, you can't disable pixel jumping where the screen moves position, only slow down or increase the rate, you can't disable screen cleaning notifications, only set it to auto or 16h, unless. what does this mean? a big fucking popup IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR COMPETITIVE GAME IN A 1on1 FOR MILLIONS OF DOLLARZ

MSI engineers really need to take a dive into the suicide nets if you catch my drift

they patched some shit like a setting to disable dsc and shit but every thing of this garbage should be able to be disabled, no fucking compromise if you put in retard shit like this

not sure what the current state of firmware is, but retarded shit like this should not be tolerated

for this reason asus has the best osd so far, alienware is probably even better even though they have no pixel shift disabling function too, not sure about the others, I forget

>>103003383
>gaming is the only thing that matters in native

>>103003472
you have 480hz woled and 360hz qdoled 27"s
your opinion is pretty poorfaggy and copey though

>>103004919
>+ amd gpu
this nigga puffing pure ugandan copium

>>103005415
maybe we will see, eurocucks already on suicidewatch though

>>103005788
tv's usually dip hard during this period

>>103005968
>wanting pozzed chips

>>103006915
you wouldn't take peripherals over to backup pc?
seems odd to have it set up entirely with monitor & peripherals already

>>103006985
>+ amd gpu
>this nigga puffing pure ugandan copium
NTA but AMD smokes nvidia in performance/dollar
once they catch up on software gimmicks that some people want, there'll be no reason for nvidia unless they finally drop prices

>>103006967
I have deer pictures... they have hooves, too!@

>>103007011
Why bother when it was just on the kitchen table for assembly and testing.

>>103002860
Old pc has two problems:
The first problem started about a month ago, it keeps doing the slower manual boot where i have to press f1 to continue. Not a big deal so i ignored it.
Now it's not keeping track of the time, i turned it on and it had the time it had when i turned it off last time...
What do i do? Is it the mobo or just windows being retarded?

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>4k 60hz ips monitors under $250 now
wtf

>>103005968
Things were better when companies didn't have such detailed real time knowledge of how their inventory moves.

>>103007062
replace your cmos battery

How long until amd stacks l3 cache above and below?

>>103005968
Welcome to late stage techocratic (((capitalism))), corporations have the real time strategy for minmaxing profits figured out now.

Do not fall for the shill FUD, prices will drop and you will buy product at a sensible price.

>>103007097
Alright, i'll see which battery the mobo has and order that

>>103007153
Usually a 2032. Available locally, cheap, everywhere.

I will build a new puter sometime in first half of 2025 or so
I've been lurking for a few months and doing research, do you have any suggestions to prepare myself and make an educated choice?
Also, are SFF cases worth it? They look good but are probably less functional and get hotter, but maybe I'm wrong

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For me, it's the 8900 XT for 650 euros

>>103007170
Random suggestions-
>avoid all top end flagship products, but buy a little more power than you think you'll need.
>When deciding between 2 cases, the bigger ones and the ones with better airflow will serve you best. In fact, I suggest the biggest case you will still like in your work area.
>Micro ATX boards are fine, but use a small ATX case. Just make sure it has all the features you want like USB-c front panel ports, wife, the right number of M.2 slots, etc
>Build more cooling than you currently need. You'll thank yourself later when you upgrade.

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I'm going to the states in a few weeks time and I wanted to know if this was a good monitor to get? For space reasons I can't get anything bigger than a 24inch and because of my budget I can't get anything too expensive either. So I was wondering if this was a good brand to go by?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CHN4JZT8/ref=ewc_pr_img_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

So apparently the next RTX cards are going to have PCIe 5.0. Do I lose lots of performance if I have a 4.0 or 3.0 motherboard?

>>103007605
>4.0
Nay
>3.0
Yea

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>thinking black friday is finally the time to buy my 7700 + 4070 ti super rig
>5070 Ti supposedly dropping in february

It's always something...

>>103007248
Thanks for the tips anon

>>103007703
yes that's exactly it
there's always something new coming
so buy what you need when you need it
waitfags will wait until the end of the world
buychads will buy right now

>>103007703
>waiting for skip generation

>>103007703
I bought a new 3090 right when the 40 series released and don't regret it. Just get what you need and don't look back.

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>>103007231
9900x3d + 9900xt3d

soo, 9900X? intel is DOA?

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Ok now I'm demanding an answer. What is a good 24 inch, 165-180hrz monitor that you recommend?

>>103007231
Gonna be more than that, initially they were aiming for 400$ and $600 prica tags but die to all the rdna3 supply still around they're gonna release them at $600 and $800 for the highest tiers.

good morning sars

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So /g/ bros, I was finally upgrading my gaming PC to the latest and greatest, from my old GPU, to the new 4090 below, keeping the old motherboard in place for the time being (planned to replace it whenever it burned out). Thing is, it burned out immediately the moment I plugged my new GPU and PSU in, so the gods have decided the moba upgrade must be now.

I would appreciate help finding a top-end moba and Ram to put in it. Am primarily gaming and I have no idea what good mobas go for, but my two secondary priorities are

a) Longevity (~10 years with no hardware failures)
b) Privacy (tinfoil hat mind would prefer hardware without gaping vulnerabilities or an infinite attack surface)

Any advice would be appreciated.

>CPU
Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6GHz

>GPU
MSI Suprim Liquid X 4090

>Monitor
Viotek 4k

>Moba (burned out)
*Some B450M

>>103007961
>I would appreciate help finding a top-end moba
deadlock

>>103007932
Asus TUF Gaming VG249QL3A
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#r=192001080&D=165000,540000&G=10000000000,1000000000000&P=2&F=355600000,635000000&sort=price&page=1

>>103007703
5080 looks equal to 4080s, i doubt 5070 ti will be better than 4070 ti super

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>>103007961
>>CPU
>Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6GHz
>>GPU
>MSI Suprim Liquid X 4090

Sorry if wrong thread - if I noticed today that one of my storage hard drives (Toshiba P300 3tb cmr one) report 5 reallocated sectors, it means I should get new one soon?

>>103007961
B550 Taichi for only $160 is a good deal if you're in the US.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jKLwrH/asrock-b550-taichi-atx-am4-motherboard-b550-taichi

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>>103007961
>MSI Suprim Liquid X 4090

kill every gaymer

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>>103007978
did you just recommend the same monitor that I asked about earlier in the thread? Ok that's enough out of you. (Unless you aren't pulling my chain and you really meant the recommendation then I apologize.)

>>103008089
I wasn't in the last thread, schizo faggot.

>>103008116
not me
>>103008089
I was just pulling your leg

>>103007028
only in america has amd been competitive and have better prices generally
every time in history I've checked eu prices have been ass
you also did not account for amdipping and drivers, I mean unusable in some things
but you do you
the ultra poorfag category maybe sure depending on what games you play
even poorfags swear off because the drivers though
idk
the marketshare has spoken

>>103007088
even the gaymer varients are cheap
nobody is buying 60hz bro

>>103007144
poorfaggin and waiting is old meta, the new meta is burgerflipping and moneystacking, poorfags are not tolerated anymore, it's a opportunity cost and missing vital years of raytraced years of your life

>>103007170
life below a 9800X3D + 5090 + a 4k 240hz QDOLED is not worth living
>do you have any suggestions to prepare myself
start flipping burgers harder

>>103007545
what kind of destitute place do you live where plane tickets are cheaper than ordering in country

>>103007703
>waiting for sub 5090
ngmi

>>103007813
this is a redeem gen, dp 2.1 is literally the selling point
well, everything but the 5090 is cucked still

>>103007932
you buy the cheapest one on sale that's ips

>4080s pulls 300+ watts
>5080 reportedly has a tdp of 400w
NIGGA WHA THE FUCK

>>103008137
I urge you to end your life.
Don't wait, tie a noose, put it around your neck and hang yourself TODAY.

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Looking for advice on a screwdriver toolkit to purchase. I've picked up a few screwdriver with changeable bit sets over the last few years and they have all been chinkshit. Please advise.

is it me or enabling DLSS removes the blurriness of TAA

>>103007994
We have zero leaks about 5080 and 5070 performance. We only know 5090 is about 50% stronger.

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>>103008128
Thanks for being honest. I'll just go with the asus then unless something else changes my mind.

>>103008165
I can't swear for anyone else but I got me an I-fix-it tool kit and it's what I used to put my PC together.

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My mobo only supports unto 2666mhz ddr4 ram. would a 3200 kit downclock and work at 2666 speed? I found an used 3200 kit selling for cheap.

Supermicro X11SCA

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>>103008137
>this is a redeem gen, dp 2.1 is literally the selling point

>>103008165
I have a big philips and a small philips and that is all I've ever needed

>>103008165
I use the Xiaomi wiha set but it's unobtanium nowadays.

>>103008207
50% stronger while pulling 600+w

>>103008137
>only in america has amd been competitive and have better prices generally
>every time in history I've checked eu prices have been ass
6600 beat Nvidia's offering when I checked & before that 580 beat the 1060 6gb (3gb was cheaper but LMAO3GB)
>drivers, I mean unusable in some things
As if Nvidia doesn't have driver issues
>the marketshare has spoken
What's intel's market share again?

>>103008247
Pretty sure whatever stick you buy is defaulted to 2666 and you have to manually set it to 3200 in bios

>>103008165
I got the xiaomi MIJIA set & I'm not a professional by any means but it looks very nice and WAY better than all the dogshit cheap sets I'm used to
Keep in mind there's a FUCK LOAD of fakes though, real set has a weird little fox emblem on the case and is 24 bits

I got it after they started making their own bits & still looks good to me

>>103008247
yes, it would
but it might have a profile for 2666 with lower timings

>>103008273
>amd wins in 200 dollar gpus
yeah
>As if Nvidia doesn't have driver issues
even poorfags running their ancient games and emus swear off it, maybe run loonix or something
>What's intel's market share again?
on cpu?

>>103006924
So they think you're furry? Are you?

>>103007961
if you want to be a cheapo the one with the best VRM for the price is the MSI B550-A PRO for 110 (it's an atx, check your case) if you want a micro atx it gets a bit harder but there are options maybe check a tier list or something like that

just pair it with some 3200 or 3600 ram probably 32gb should set you about 50. You might want to upgrade that 3700 to a 5700x3d someday

>>103008287
>>103008316
Okay nice.

>>103008287
Yeah I returned 2 sets to Amazon as defective until I realized this.

>>103008421
/g/ moment

>>103008247
>My mobo only supports unto 2666mhz ddr4 ram
ok this board might genuinely not have XMP
i'd say just buy it and see what happens lmao

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>>103008350
Yes. This makes me a furry.

>>103008465
well now I have 4 sticks of 6000 mhz DDR5 and everybody says AM5 can't do 4 sticks at 6000mhz, it's too unstable. But I set the EXPO profile in my BIOS and it just works but idk how to test it, my OS just sees it at 6000mhz.

>>103008494
Cute animal until you have to clean up a dozen chickens left in eighty pieces on your yard after a pack of them clears out your neighbour's henhouse.

>>103008514
>idk how to test it
OCCT (paid for >1 hour)
karhu (paid)
testmem5 (you need to set this up manually, use the ABSOLUT or 1usmus profile)

https://github.com/integralfx/MemTestHelper/blob/oc-guide/DDR4%20OC%20Guide.md#recommended

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>>103003604
>>103003475
>>103003711
none of these charts ever show the 7600x3d, why not? shouldnt it be better than the 5800x3d?

>>103002860
>Gaming: 12400F, 7600X,
why a 7600x and not a 7600x3d if its for gaming?

>>103008211
>>103008252
>>103008267
>>103008313
Thanks for the replies

>>103008581

7600X3D was a very limited release (Micro Center in USA, Mindfactory in Germany)

No point putting it in charts when most of the world can't easily buy it.

>>103008581
It doesn't have the 5700x3d either

Why does only america get 5600x3d?

is my pc futureproof for gta 6?

>>103008772
yes saar

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Hi guys looking at the list in the OP I need an SSD for my windows drive. I have a gigabyte Aorus B450 elite. Is this the right drive? My mobo came with an m.2 heatsink I can use. I have a 2TB 2.5" samsung 860 QVO SSD for all my games so this m.2 its going to be just for windows.

>WD Black SN850X 1TB M.2 2280 NVMe PCIe 4.0 SSD

https://www.scorptec.com.au/product/hard-drives-&-ssds/solid-state-drives-(ssd)/99138-wds100t2x0e

6700xt or rtx 3070?
3070 seems to perform better, but I wonder if it's a bad idea for the future to get a 8gb vram card today

>>103008853
Get a 40 series

>>103002881
fpbp

>>103002997
WTF. I do 1440p gayming with 4070 @144hz.

>>103008887
but why? everyone on yt shits on it and recommends either the 30 or some amd alternative

>>103005969
>what's the wattage comparison?
Has this ever actually been a legitimate concern for anyone who pays for performance? I'm actually curious. Has anyone here ever not bought a component because it draws too much power?

>>103002895
It's a very good 1080p gaming card.
The 4080 is a good 1440p gaming card.
And the 4090 is barely a good 2160p gaming card (I must know, I own one).

>>103008954
>Has anyone here ever not bought a component because it draws too much power?
me
more power = more heat

I was playing games @ 1440p on a GTS250 a decade ago. Thanks developers.

>>103003944
>>103003958
>>103003973
>>103003986
I game at home with my nitrogen cooled 4090.

Ryzen 2600x operator here. Just pulled the trigger on X870 mobo & 9900X

I miss my EVGA 1080ti FTW3

>>103008998
>GTS250
8800GT rebrand if I'm not mistaken
that was the all time GOAT

>>103002860
Bros... I built up an old PC in a Fractal Design Core 1000 and I feel like shit, took me 3-4 hours just to try and deal with how little space and the awful HDD/SSD vertical mount whilst the airflow is fine, the sheer mess of cables that now lays within depresses me.

>>103009061
Yes it was sir. my EVGA GTS 250 only died 2 years ago. I'm on an ex-mining 3070 now.

>>103008739
Because they have a large market with a well-established shipping infrastructure.
Not a coincidence the chip was a limited release for Germany as well.

>>103005689
it's a universal connector you can use with any psu apparently. still wouldn't trust that one but the type 4 and 5 ones are fine

>>103008514
> 4 sticks
Of 32GB capacity each? If less then you are retarded because two modules of 48GB would be more and even faster.

>>103004883
>bought a cablemod version of this like 6 months ago
It's been working fine....but it would probably be a good idea to use an official corsair one...

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>>103008828
Yeah that'll work fine. I'm using the same one on my B450 tomahawk max.

>>103008631
>No point putting it in charts when most of the world can't easily buy it.
then how am i supposed to know how it stacks up against other processors? i gotta make my own charts now wtf?

>>103008913
people will want to behead me for this but framegen and dlss on the 40 series is genuinely good
worth the upcharge? for now probably not but the 40 series will age much better than 30 or amd 6000

>>103009334
amdrones hate it because their version just isn't good
anyone who has used framegen knows it is black magic

>>103006985
>poorfaggy
do people on this board unironically detest anyone with less disposable income than them

>>103009293
thank you very much.

>>103008913
40 series cards that have the same performance as 30 series cards draw half the power (4060ti vs 3060ti)

>>103009346
Or worse, anyone who makes smart buying decisions

7900 GRE vs 4070 ti super vs 7800 xt vs 6800 xt vs 4060 ti 16 gb for a zen+ cpu. If I get an AMD card it'll be used on Linux, a Nvidia one will be used on windows:
Please tell me if my assessment is correct:

The 4070 ti super is awkwardly competing against pcie 5.0 cards set to launch early next year which would require me to build a whole new system to really use but might offer fancy pants NPUs fed with system RAM if Linux ever gets driver for that and AI shit ever gets written to use them. The 4070super requires me to get a 12vhpwr adapter and risk housefires or spend at least $200 on a new PSU. It has fancy upscaling and frame gen that makes things wibly wobbly and unclear, but of course it's better than everything else by a lot.

The 7900 GRE costs 17% more than a 6800 xt and does like 15% better maybe but uses less power, and importantly for me causes fewer clearance issues. The 7800 xt costs more but performs slightly worse than the 6800xt but avoids clearance issues. Both the 6800xt and 7800xt are better value than the 4060 ti, which can't use 16gb to its fullest effect, if you're not using dlss and frame gen but still beats it even in ray tracing.

One factor I haven't heard much about: which of these is going to be more stable, ie. cause fewer game crashes? If I had to guess AMD would be worse because of fewer users and AMD on Linux is a niche within a niche, but I still have a GTX 1080 that'll be fed to a windows VM.

>>102998195
3600 chads stay winning

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>>103009478
>The 4070super requires me to get a 12vhpwr adapter and risk housefires

>>103009478
Without a CPU upgrade I'd only go up to a 4060Ti. Maybe a 4070 non-super if it's cheap enough. With a stronger card, Zen+ would be a bit of a bottleneck in modern games. If you don't play those then you don't need anything stronger anyway.
If you're prepared to upgrade the CPU as well then the sky's the limit. Just buy according to budget and preferences (Nvidia if you want RT/DLSS, AMD if not).

https://youtu.be/_ja2GTq99us
i was told 8gb is not enough for 1440p but it seems like 4080ti can handle it just fine... wtf bros

>>103009478
Just make sure your noodle arms push the connector in all the way. Maybe ask your sister to do it.

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Can anyone help me choose a 2TB main drive?

From what I can see the Patriot Viper VP4300 Lite does everything the other drives can do, for cheaper

>>103009933
>Can anyone help me choose a 2TB main drive?
Literally whichever is the cheapest drive in your local market at the time. There is no real world difference in speed of SSDs. Of those options, the Patriot looks good, same 5-year warranty at the Samsung which is the only differentiation factor for end users:
https://cdn.prod.website-files.com/63b6412d4ef17b35c8b5f9d5/650c41c5f001bb98f26e0d28_Patriot_Product_Sheet_VP4300_SSD.pdf

>>103009346
I'm poor and hate poor people yes, why do you ask

>>103009395
Only works if we lived under communism where everyone had a fixed income
Until then the smartest move is just to flip more burgers
Money is literally free, just get it

>>103009933
Get the VP4300 yeah
you lucked out unless it's a faulty price it's showing you or a second hand one or some shit

>>103009478
Just get a 4080s

>>103009395
>>103009346
it's the nvidia shill, don't bother

>5090 reportedly to have 600w tdp
>12vhpwr can pull up to 600w
Uhhh is this thing going to need 2 of those connectors?

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>>103010347

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>>103010375

how much of a difference does it make for streaming when choosing between 4060ti and 6700xt?
Tempted to buy the latter but I plan on streaming tekken 8 and I heard you should always choose nvidia for that sort of stuff. what's bad about streaming on a amd card?

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Can you overclock 3200mhz RAM beyond that value?

>>103010453
Depends on the kit, motherboard, AND CPU's IMC. Basically gambling.

>>103010426
NVIDIA produces higher quality video at the same bitrate
if you're streaming to youtube it doesn't matter
if you're streaming to twitch it matters
if you're streaming to discord it's gonna look like shit no matter what card you buy
>>103010453
of course
some of the best DDR4 is 3200 14-14-14

>>103010491
Kingston FURY 3200 2x8 + 2x16. B550 ROG STRIX, R5 5600
>>103010508
I mean the frequency, not the CL. Or does it change with clock?

>>103010525
>Kingston FURY 3200 2x8 + 2x16
lol oh no
>I mean the frequency, not the CL
kits with low tRCD (the second timing, not low tCL) is samsung B-die and will scale very well with frequency
read this
https://github.com/integralfx/MemTestHelper/blob/oc-guide/DDR4%20OC%20Guide.md

>>103010453
If you are running anything newer than intel 8th gen it can be worthwhile to consider ram OC, only DDR4 ICs worth tuning are hynix C/J/DJR, micron Rev e/b, with Samsung b-die sitting at the top for performance

>>103010347
>>103010375
>>103010384
Kek, we're gonna need 12v 2x6 revision 2 by this time next year

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>>103010216
>>103010325
Well shit, I looked at a review and it says that Patriot randomly switches between SLC + QLC
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/patriot-viper-vp4300-lite-4tb-ssd-review

So:
Lexar NM620 (Gen 3) for 105eur
or
Samsung 990 Pro / Crucial T500 for 150eur

is the 12900k the best value i can get for a 16 core at its speed rn

>>103010634
>>103010634
>>103010634

>>103010617
if you can cool it
with a bad cooler you get more performance out of a 5950X than a 12900K

>>103010571
>inb4 it gets to the point where 5090.will just come bundled with an external power supply
Kek

>>103010646
do you think I can get close to boost speed with a good aio? are there any good aios?

what's the current goto brand for nvidia GPUs? i've only ever bought EVGA