i see people telling me i should have 32gb and not 16gb in a ddr4 build i'm making, but i never see anyone explain why
there is no way modern games require you to have above 16gb

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Looking for help choosing a 2TB drive

OS / games

Lexar NM620 (Gen 3) for 105eur
or
Samsung 990 Pro / Crucial T500 for 150eur

>>103010805
There are already games that suggest 32GB RAM

Main reason is PS5 ports will use the extra RAM to emulate swapping that's handled by the super-fast SSD on consoles

Also, multi-tasking

>>103010823
How much is wd black sn850x?

>>103010823
Check this: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1092033-ssd-tier-list/

>>103010943
Won't arrive in time
>>103010956
Samsung 990 Pro & Crucial T500 aren't on that list

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Between my server and desktop I will eventually employ 15 if the cheap shit thermalright fans
9 will run 24/7, 6 will be intermittent use.
I'm a interested into how long it takes for one to fail.

I'm honestly confident that the leds or electronics will fail before the bearing, I've never had a fan that was bought separately fail or get super noisy, even basic sleeve bearing fans after 8+ years of mixed RPM use.

>>103010988
990 pro is one of the best, go ahead with it anon. I'll try to find about t500, that is not a bad option either.

https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/the-best-nvme-ssds/

https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/the-best-nvme-ssds/

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Hey anons, I'm in the market right now to upgrade my GPU from my 1060 6gb, and I'm pretty torn between the 4060 or the 3060 12gb.

For some context, I bought the 1060 in 2018 for my original system built in 2012, and last year I finally built a whole new system but moved the 1060 into it. So from a GPU perspective, it's been 6 years.

I'm still on 1080p and plan to remain that way for at least a few more years because my kids are little and I want to wait until they stop breaking everything to upgrade to a 4k OLED TV. So I'm mainly looking for the best 1080p card that can run games best for the next ~5 years.

I'm on the fence because the main problem I'm facing right now with these newer games is VRAM. 6gb just is not enough to run these newer titles with everything cranked. So I'm wondering if I should go with the older generation with more VRAM, or if I would be better off with the performance improvements of the newer 4000 series with only 8gb. They're both $300.

Appreciate any and all advice!

>>103011019
Get arctic p12 or p14. They come without rgbt, they are some of the best and if you buy 5-pack, the are cheap as fuck.

>>103011026
For the same price, can you not get a 7800xt or a 7900gre?

>>103010988
T500 is on the high end on this chart: https://ssd.borecraft.com/SSD_Buying_Guide.svg

We should add these links in OP.

>>103011043
Please don't hate me, but I really prefer to stick with NVIDIA because I have Intel, and that combo has always just kinda "worked" the best without problems.

what happened to Fractal Design? do they not make the Torrent, Meshify, Define, or Focus anymore? instead I only see gay shit like "Mood" and "Era"

>>103011043
Also out of curiosity, I just looked up both those cards on Newegg and they're both about $500, so way outside the $300 I was looking to spend.

>>103011134
Get the 4060 and in 4 years upgrade to the 7060/8060 8GB

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>>103010634
>CASE
>AVOID: 'Silent' cases
why?
I got picrel from Phanteks back in the day and it's great.

>>103011198
>shit thermals
>pointless "dampening" material
>overpriced

Get an airy case with better fans, enjoy quiet running with capability for lower temps

>>103011026
if u insist on the 4060 vs 3060 option. you should know, you will rarely get to use full of the 12gb vram of 3060 at 1080p gaming (that u will may have to turn down the graphic options for performance in demanding games anyway)
Both have DLSS but the 4060 has access to framegen, so it would have better time running newer, demanding games

>>103011251
>shit thermals
no?
>pointless "dampening" material
but it's not pointless? It helps absorbing noise that would usually be transferred to the case.
>overpriced
show me good looking plain and simple non gamer design cases that are not overpriced I wait

>>103011198
its over for you

>>103010805
>no way modern games require you to have above 16gb
They don't other than tarkov but your web browser and assorted other nonsense is likely to eat your memory so it's just easier to get 32GB and memory is pretty cheap anyway

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>>103011135
are you stupid or just lazy

>>103011134
>Intel
Doesn't really have any CPUs that make sense at the moment outside of maybe 12th gen for real budget builds, the later 3 gens all have issues or underperform and also have issues

>>103011346
its over anon. this thread is for min max folks with no sovl

>>103011376
now where can I buy them that isn't old stock being sold at 400% markup? are you gay or just a fag?

>I3-9100f
>16 GB RAM
>1660 ti

Is it time to upgrade my dudes? I don't really need something better, but the jewish brainworms are eating at me to consoom.

>>103011293
> rarely get to use the 12gb
That's what I'm hearing, it just seems like I'm maxxing VRAM first on these newer games but maybe not.

>framegen
So I actually really want to avoid any and all of the AI/gen crap if I can and just run native. Is this framegen thing on by default, or can you turn it off like DLSS?

>>103011384
Yeah that's exactly what I have, I upgraded to a 12600K last year from my 2012 Ivy Bride CPU.

>>103011404
youre a lazy bitch. not gonna spoon feed you

>>103011198
>Phanteks without mesh front
OH NO NO NO NO PFFFT

>>103011198
Yeah that claim is by a functionally deaf anon tryna cope.

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>>103011346
>no?
A closed panel traps air. A mesh panel does not.
>but it's not pointless? It helps absorbing noise that would usually be transferred to the case.
The only things making noise in a modern case are fans. We have moved past mechanical hard drives.
>show me good looking plain and simple non gamer design cases that are not overpriced I wait
Here, it's a black box with tinted TG

>>103011405
>Is it time to upgrade my dudes? I don't really need something better, but the jewish brainworms are eating at me to consoom.
I just have a fixed rule of how much I will spend on a pc/GPU and it has to be at least twice as fast as I what I already have and there has to be a new game that I want to play that requires it, given recent releases have been pretty shitty I haven't been considering buying a new one

>>103011405
Really need more info, depends on the rest of your setup.

Ultimately everything depends on target resolution and framerate. Personally I do not think there's any benefit at all past 1440p no matter what distance you're sitting at from the screen, so it depends on if you're happy with your performance or not.

>>103011198
I made the mistake of purchasing p300 non mesh front, big mistake

>>103011442
Out of curiosity, what are your specs now?

>>103011459
5800x 2070s

>>103011442
Literally this, it's been 6 years for me and it's gonna be 2X the performance for the same price based on benchmarks.

>>103011346
A mesh front can literally drop overall temps by 5-10c

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>>103011451
1080p 60FPS. I hardly even play games anymore, and when I do it's the same old shit (picrel)
But I'm itching to buy shit. Maybe I'll get a 1440p 144hz display IF I ever do upgrade just to justify it.

>>103011482
Resolution kinda isn't a big deal anymore due to dlss and fsr, since you can just play "4K" performance with a fairly weak GPU and get about the same performance as 1080 native, and it looks a lot better than trying to use the wrong res for the monitor

>>103011482
If you don't need the upgrade, just keep waiting.
The parts will get better.

>>103011467
youll be waiting until 2035 for that cpu upgrade

>>103011467
7800XT is exactly twice as fast as a 2070, maybe the 8700XT will be good and cheap and over twice the 2070 perf.
>he'll buy the 5070 anyway

>>103011198
the fans in my phantek case are already plenty quiet, remember the larger the fan the quieter it'll be even when moving a good amount of air

>>103011198
Thermals take priority over acoustics
Besides, when you're playing games (usually when the fans start to rev up), you're probably wearing headphones anyway.

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Hmm, so reading about PCIe Gen4x4 SSDs and heat makes me want one with the heatsink installed

They're all the same price
Just go for cheapest?

>>103011717
Lots of motherboards come with built in heatsink, IDK if there is a good reason to buy one with heatsink.

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>>103010634
>2x32GB 6000CL30
is this actually exists? if yes what manufacture ?

doing my first amjeet build, is there an idiot's guide to installing and booting linux?

MSI SPATIUM M450 or SN580

>>103011809
balena etcher
ubuntu or anything based on ubuntu
install it onto usb drive and youre good
itll already have amd's drivers installed so youre good

>>103010634
>putting the cache underneath
fucking lol that was unexpected

>>103011839
cache sandwich soon and you know it

>>103011026
Wait for the game then buy the GPU for that game.
The 6gb 1060 is still a decent GPU.
For example, the 1060 has 2x the fps of a steamdeck, but the 4060 has 2x the fps of a 1060 so it won't disappoint you.
Also I would buy a new 1080p 180hz monitor instead of a new GPU if your monitor is 60fps.
If you have a VRR monitor, you could do a little bit of autism and use a frame limiter in some games and even if the game runs at a low FPS, it feels very smooth if you limit it correctly. When you get the 4060, it will give you more FPS, which is will increase smoothness, but in my opinion it just hides fact not every frame has an equal frame time (so you might rotate your camera in some AAA game, and you might notice the fps stutters a little bit because obviously more / less things being rendered causes the FPS to change).
Of course the 1060 can't do much, like to run cyberpunk you need to use mostly low settings + FSR to reach 60fps (but the steamdeck only gets like 30fps if you are lucky).

>>103011769
I think all the manufacturers have that. I bought kingston fury beast. Just buy any brand with tight subtimings its all hynix dies.

>>103011809
- download fedora 64 bit iso
- download rufus
- connect usb, 8 gb or larger.
- select the correct usb on rufus
- select uefi
- once complete, you have a bootable pendrive
- disconnect all the disks other than your bootable linux pendrive and your target disk for loonix.
- In bios, disable fastboot and secure boot.
- Boot from the pendrive by selecting your pendrive.
- Hit next, next and wait for it to complete. While installing, just make sure that you are installing to the correct disk.
- disconnect the pendrive and it will boot from loonix.

Should I get a Ryzen 7600 now on aliexpress for $150, or wait and see what other places offer for Black Friday/cyber Monday?

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>Samsung is trying to buy Intel
I've bought only intel cpus since Prescott. Could call me a fan boy even though I'm in my 30's. It's kind of a melancholic feeling that the company that invented the microchip, easily in the top 5 the most humanity changing inventions in the last 2 million years alongside things like the plow and the combustion engine, may be going insolvent soon. The father of the modern age is about to be traded and bought like it's just another company in the gutter.

It's not like I'm a mindless consumer though, I bought 11th gen in spite of zen 3 being out, I knew it was inferior but I value platform stability over everything, and I trusted intel more than amd. Trusted. It's all gone now. 13th, 14th, and 15th gen are dumpster fires, and it hurts me but I'm almost definitely going for a 9950x3d + Blackwell build next year since my machine is starting to show its age at last.

Rest in peace, Intel. I held out hope for years that you could pull another Core 2 Duo out of your hat like a magician, but it's obviously not going to happen. Your corporate culture has degraded beyond what can be repaired without vast restructuring, all my friends who work at intel have only bad things to say about Pat and the company. It's over.

>>103012288
um, they only made microchips cheaper
they originally made ram chips then got into the ibm clone microchip business

>>103012288
>The father of the modern age is about to be traded and bought like it's just another company in the gutter.
jews

>>103012288
>>Samsung is trying to buy Intel
US gubment won't allow it, intel is too important for the DoD, they wouldn't allow alien countries to buy intel

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>>103012288
Jahy-sama... you baka, the US Govt is not going to let Intel be bought.

9800X3D review embargo is on the 6th of November, so they're confident.

>>103012547
Zen 5 is probably going to benefit from extra cache more than zen 3 or 4 did. It's the most starved core yet. Still on the same exact io die as the previous two core architectures.

>>103012571
yeah that is my guess too, Zen5+ with a N5 IOD when.

>AVOID: Intel 13/14 series.
Can someone explain why? I want to buy myself either a 13400F or a 14100F for my first gaming rig.

>>103012615
there was a degradation issue with Raptor Lake CPUs but it should now be fixed.
>13400F
not affected so you should be fine.
>14100F
not worth the money over the 12100F

>>103012615
Those are fine actually, the issues are with the higher clocked skus which oxidize their own ring bus due to going to sanic fast. As usual an OP isn't adequate to explain nuances.

>>103012626
I wonder if an i9-14900T is safe to buy

>>103012654
only if its new

>>103012613
>Zen5+ with a N5 IOD
Would be great to have next year before en 6 in 2026, but I fear they will just drip cheaper non-X Zen 5 and the 9600X3D or something instead.

>>103012547
they were confident about zen5 too and look how it turned out...

Corsair 4000d yay or nay?

>>103012863
>Imagine not running performance testing under the OS 75% of the world uses to evaluate whether your product is good or not
>But it runs so good in Linux tho
YOU MORONS, YOU IMBECILES, YOU ABSOLUTE RETARDS.

>>103012902
It's a fine case, but depending on you are after (budget, performance, or features) there are better options. It's sort of a Jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none choice.

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Nvidia Won

>>103012913
my budget is $1100(maybe $1300 if I go for a 4070 over a 3060ti)

>>103011954
>Ryzen 7600 now on aliexpress
good luck getting an actual ryzen from them

>Nintendo Switch plugged on TV is 1920x1080 60Hz by default
>Get a new PC without a monitor, figure TV will do the job
>Plug HDMI to 3060
>1366x768 anything above fucks with the borders and looks tiny and shitty
Why??? Is there something I can do short of buying a monitor?
My friend and me also fucked up the setup and installed Win10 on the HDD instead lf the SSD, probably not a big deal tho

>>103010823
whichever has the higher TBW rating

>>103013019
you need to set 1:1 instead of overscan
maybe nvidia drivers default to overscan settings, check those

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>>103012927
Yeah at that budget I'd rather see you put your funds into the guts moreso than the enclosure. Example, the Montech 903 Max has the same USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type A & Type C front panel connectivity and noise at load as the iCUE version of the 4000D but posts somewhat cooler GPU load & CPU load temps while being $30 cheaper:
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/silverstone-alta-d1/8.html
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2MwmP6/montech-air-903-max-atx-mid-tower-case-air-903-max-b
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bCYQzy/corsair-4000d-airflow-atx-mid-tower-case-cc-9011200-ww

>>103013041
>Montech 903 Max has the same USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type A & Type C front panel connectivity and noise at load as the iCUE version of the 4000D
Funny enough, I literally just bought it instead not 5 minutes before your post, cheers.

>>103013045
Nice, for how many included fans and features they crammed into such a low priced hunk of metal it's definitely one of the best values ATM.

what can I do to make my AIO pump last as long as possible?

>>103013098
run at a fixed 100% when your system is on and dont leave it unused for prolonged periods of time

>>103013109
>run at a fixed 100%
if I didnt hear this before I wouldve thought you were fucking with me, why does it last longer being at 100% all the time? and is it usually very loud at 100%?

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Ight fellas, I had this setup in mind for quite some time but I managed to save up additional 300 euros, any suggestions what can I improve?

>>103013206
Wait for the 9800X3D in two weeks and come back to us.

>>103013206
>XTX
Get a 4700TiS
>>103013214
CPU is irrelevant for current day gaming

>>103013224

I picked this card specifically as I want a lot of VRAM since I'm dabbling in training my own small LLMs and the 24GB is just about what I need

>>103013214
I forgot about that, has the MSRP leaked? Will it be reasonably priced?

>>103013206
>CPU
If you're willing to pay (over?) launch price for a two year-old chip you might as well wait for the 9800X3D. Unfortunately there's not a great selection in the high-end gaming segment right now. Maybe a 14600K?
>Cooler
Fine in isolation but those Thermalrights should be more like €40.
>Mobo
Obligatory Mediatek WiFi warning. If you're going to use WiFi as standard you might have to replace the card (or buy it separate).
>RAM
Right specs but €110 looks a little high. Could be the norm for your country though.
>SSD
You don't need a top flight SSD for gaming+ML. Room to save a bit here.
>Card
Default to Nvidia for ML unless you know what you're doing.
>Case
You'll want an extra front intake fan to get the most out of this case.
>PSU
Fine if you're reusing this but don't buy an old Focus in 2024.

>>103013254
>I forgot about that, has the MSRP leaked? Will it be reasonably priced?
Not yet but euro retailers are putting it at 460 euros or 550 with VAT.
so chances are its $499 USD, but chances are its also just a placeholder price.

>>103013254
>I forgot about that, has the MSRP leaked? Will it be reasonably priced?
The worst case about the same as the 7800X3D that has been stupidly overpriced send the end of July. Best case slightly cheaper because they'd like it to sell after how bad the non-X Zen 5 went over.

>>103013292
>CPU
yeah I'm going to wait for 9800X3D if the price is going to be ok
>Mobo
I honestly didn't even notice it has wifi, 100% not gonna use it
>RAM
they seems to be at this price point everywhere in europe
>Card
Heard this one before, I want to consider nvidia but I'm also a Loonix user and can't be bothered to wait 2 more years until wayland stops being dogshit
>PSU
What else would you suggest?

>>103013206
>489 eurobux for 7800x3d
>when the 9800x3d is right around the corner
i cannot think of a better time to waitfag

>>103010634
I'm going to buy 9800X3D, run it with manually tuned DDR5-8000 and run circles around reddit luddites who still think ancient 6000MHz is faster because muh bad clock sync. Even AMD recommends going with 8000MHz on Zen5 X870E systems.

M-Die 3Gb chips are easier to clock high than A-Die 2Gb chips. 2x16GB A-Die make sense if you want something like DDR5-6000 C28 or lower, otherwise 2x24GB M-Die is better. Going dual rank 2x32GB or God forbid single rank 4x16GB is mental retardation.

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>>103013379
fair enough, 6000 CL30 is just cheap and easy. CUDIMM expo kits over 8000 will unlock Zen 4 and Zen5 performance.

>>103013379
based
take the top spot: https://factoriobox.1au.us/results/cpus?map=4c5f65003d84370f16d6950f639be1d6f92984f24c0240de6335d3e161705504&vl=1.0.0&vh=

>>103013368
Just 9 days. Zen 5 was cheaper than Zen 4 across the line. Lisa was planning to launch 9800X3D with similar price cut so worst case scenario if she decides to milk because Arrow Turd shitted and flopped it just won't get the price cut and release at 7800X3D MSRP.
Intel and Radeon are a meme at this point. AMD and Nvidia might as well get a true monopoly on CPUs and GPUs respectively and it wouldn't affect prices one bit.

>>103013379
8000 is just a gamble to run unless you buy an itx board or one of those nitropath ones

>>103013408
>CUDIMM on AM5
Uhh? Only MSI said anything about CUDIMM support on X870 and that's in compat mode without clock driver support. I don't think CUDIMM is coming to AMD until AM6 or X970. I'd rather already see CAMM2 at that point in time.

>>103013362
>I'm going to wait for 9800X3D if the price is going to be ok
It's going to be like €500 which is, IMO, not okay but the bastards have us over a barrel with the lack of competition in this segment.

>Heard this one before, I want to consider nvidia but I'm also a Loonix user...
Fair enough. As I understand it getting the popular ML software to run on AMD is a lot easier on Linux so it might well be the right choice.

>What [PSU] would you suggest?
PSUs are commodities so you're mostly just looking for the cheapest model with the performance/quality you need. That depends on local pricing on the day so I can only offer general advice - you want something with high-tier internals in the 750W+ region. If you're wedded to Seasonic then the model to get is the Focus GX (ATX3) but, again, there's loads of competition in this segment.
Check out HWbusters (link in the OP) and the old Cultists tier list for models not covered. Beware that it hasn't been updated in a year so newer models won't be there FWIW.
If you let us know your country, and it has a PCPP link, we could take a look for you.

>>103013408
You can't even boot zen4 with cudimms installed and zen5 only runs if you run in bypass (cudimm disabled) mode

>>103013449
I'm based in the netherlands and germany, but I'm pretty sure that as long as it's amazon I can order anywhere from yurop

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>>103013443
I've bought X670E Gene new for $300 dollarydoos from a local store that had it and didn't now it's ultra rare. But even on 4 DIMMers 8000 is possible now.

>>103013470
this is from hardware unboxed/techspot and they are fucking retarded
if they can do 8300 you can do 9000+

>>103013408
kek this image is originally from reddit
I wish more hardware people were on /g/ so I wouldn't have to use reddit and discord but alas it's mostly Linux faggotry and privacy schizos

Got a new monitor and my eyes hurt if I don't have it on eco mode with the "TÜV Rheinland’s “Low Blue Light” standard and Eyesafe certification"

My old monitor must of had that on by default for all the modes

>>103013408
>Frequency ccd
We need a test showing the cache ccd scaling

>>103013489
>I wish more hardware people were on /g/ so I wouldn't have to use reddit and discord but alas it's mostly Linux faggotry and privacy schizos
if you talk about overclocking on /g/ some faggot will always join in to tell you how it doesn't make a difference to run faster than JEDEC and your shit is gonna break if it goes past 40 C
or they complain about how it's a waste of money (as if overclocking a used xeon you got for $10 to 5 niggahertz isn't a noble and worthy endeavour) and time (as if you have anything better to do)

>>103013484
I ran 5950X 4000C14 on B550 Unify-X with dual rank B-Die and 13900K 4133C14 on Strix Z790 D4 with the same kit. I wonder how far I will be able to push the 9800X3D on the Gene with Teamgroup 8000C38 2x24GB kit. Buildzoid says DDR5 isn't binned but I don't trust him because he's been routinely wrong about what is binned and what isn't like Alder Lake IMCs.

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Finally sold this shit.

>>103013530
What did he say about alderlake that was wrong?

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How much storage space do you have in total on your PC /g/?

>>103013554
I got about 10TB of free space
I must have over 30TB of storage at this point

>>103013530
>I wonder how far I will be able to push the 9800X3D on the Gene with Teamgroup 8000C38 2x24GB kit
realistically your FCLK is gonna stop at like 2166 so it doesn't make sense to go past 8666:2166:2166
i haven't played around with DDR5 at all but seems doable to me lmao

>>103013554
9TB in NVME (1+2+2+4)

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>>103013513
5800X3D cache CCD scaling was around half of a regular CCD
keep in mind that just because someone says they tested at 4800 and 8000 and it made no difference because of muh V-cache magic doesn't mean there is no scaling
you have to manually tune timings as well

>>103013567
I mean yeah, if you haven't experienced how fucked ddr5 is especially on intel you'd think that way

>>103011149
Idk anon, 7700 or 7600 then. Idk about low end, but amd seems to have higher vram.

>>103013554
1+4+4+8=17tb

>>103013567
Buildzoid got ddr5 8000 on tachyon easy.

>>103013609
DDR4 is fucked on intel too
AMD memory controllers have been superior since zen 2
if the retards at hardware unboxed can get 8300 out of the box you will have no issues at 8666 if you buy a good kit and mobo

>>103013540
He said that Intel doesn't bin the IMC on Alder Lake because he had a particularly good 12600K and particularly bad 12900K, conclusion based on an amazing sample size of 2. Data gathered by overclock.net users clearly showed Intel did in fact bin the IMC for i9s.
I don't know if it's true because no one ever tested it but he also claimed some really esoteric stuff like mounting pressure affecting memory stability beyond thermal implications of bad/good mount. ADL and RPL are just really fickle with DDR5 at frequency, it don't see why he would attribute its stochastic nature to mounting pressure. I have never noticed a difference between different coolers and a delidded 13900K which affects the mounting pressure a lot because you reduce the distance between the die and IHS by removing the glue and replacing indium solder with liquid metal. With or without Thermalright contact frame.

What's a good 1080p monitor that's g-sync comaptible?

decide for me anons, do I just keep my AM4 mobo and buy a 5700X3D to replace my 2600x or update to AM5 and buy the equivalent 7-series

youtube.com/watch?v=ABorOI19P38

Even the Kiryu of oveclocking couldn't save Arrow Flop.

>>103013722
Buy B650 or B650E with PCIE5 x16 slot and 9800X3D in a week. 7800X3D is overpriced right now and above original price due to shortage and Intel releasing a Bulldozer tier disaster a few days ago.

>>103013747
guess I'll wait and see how the 9-series release affects prices and see again after that

>>103013723
a golden sample clocking to only 5.7ghz while raptorlake does 6.0? completely doa

>>103013769
TSMC nodes are optimized for apple phones and laptops
they don't do high frequency
wouldn't surprise me if they degrade easier as well (even easier than intel 7), so you're gonna see a bunch of people who killed their CPUs because they assumed they could play by the old rules

Only two more days until the Holiday return policy for most major retailers goes into effect. If you're planning on buying any computer parts, it would be wise to wait until November 1st.

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>>103013778
yeah these look like ryzen voltages
no more 1.35V all core OCs

>>103010823
the t500 and 990 pro will literally perform identically

>>103011035
p12 still has the annoying drone at ~1k rpm even the p12 max that supposedly fixed the issue ended up having noise problems of its own.
it was finally fixed with the p12 max white version
the p14 max is said to have the fixed bearings from the p12 max white in them as well so they should fare well

>>103013711
in the op

>>103012288
Who is this whore?

>>103013723
Give it to someone competent and handsome like buildzoid.

>>103013185
reduces wear from starting the motor from a stationary moment. its less stress on the motor to have it maintain a steady motion in comparison.

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>>103013469
https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/products/power-supply/#A=750000000000,2200000000000&e=6,5,4&p=1&J=1,4&sort=price&page=1
Highlighted models in pic look promising. Not a full endorsement but definitely worth considering over the old Focus. Again, just keep it if you're reusing it.

The updated Focus GX is here at €119:
https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/product/zQ88TW/
It is better than the cheaper models in my pic but the value is questionable. I'd personally get it if you have some slack in the budget but don't bother if you need to save every penny - all the models listed are safe and functional.

>>103013875
haruka amami

>>103012654
You want to spend actual monies on e-waste? Hahahahahaha... Get rekt.

>>103011480
cpus are designed to run optimally at 90c

>>103011346
i've never seen someone try and be so condescending while spouting such retarded bullshit

>>103013390
>Going dual rank 2x32GB
I bought 2x32, how do I find out if I fucked up? Also, never heard buildzoid talk about this.

>>103013911
Is this bait? I searched and got nude animu, also Haruka is not brown.

>>103013929
You fucked up if you bought it for memory OC not in general. Dual rank limits your top end (OC) frequency because it's more work for the controller - if your intention is to run a standard 6GT/s XMP then it makes no difference.

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>>103013875
Jahy-sama, a poor brown gremlin who suffers under the ruthless tyranny of real estate capitalism. You should read her manga and watch her show.

>>103013944
it was bait to increase the popularity of the best idol
the tan girls name is jahy

>nov 29 black friday
>dec 2 cyber monday
waitfagbros.... i don't like having to wait this long...

>>103013826
That's a golden sample cpu
Bad ones are SP75 or so with a 1.41v value for 5.7ghz

>>103013951
I was planning on running just expo and Buildzoid told you can run ddr5-8000 for more performance and lower power draw. If I can't do 8000, I'm going to try 6400 in 1 to 1 mode. IDK anon, just too new to oc. I think I should be pretty satisfied with expo.

>>103013925
a 10c drop on your GPU means it boosts faster
a 10c drop on your nvme means it writes faster for a longer sustained period
a 10c drop makes your psu more efficient
You're basically losing perf by using the wrong case

>>103013983
We're at the bleeding edge here with these 8GT/s CUDIMMs so it's hard to say exactly what will happen. Maybe you get lucky(?) and it all works, maybe you need to write timings manually, maybe it's completely unstable above 6000. Only way to find out is to try it. FWIW the scaling numbers posted are slightly unrealistic in that most of the time you're bottlenecked by the GPU - don't expect a straight 30% FPS bump from copying Buildzoid's EZ-timings.

>>103013944
you probably search up lots of nude animu. all i got was links to figures and wiki pages of the character

Imagine the pricing on DDR6 motherboards.

>>103014051
just wait for ddr7

>>103013983
EXPO/XMP vs tuned is 15% in CPU demanding titles on X3D. It's up to you. You don't need it but it's fun to tinker with your computer and make it your own beyond assembling legos.
Tuning on AM5 is fairly easy. You can't break anything, motherboards nowadays don't even let you input CPU killing voltages.

>>103013929
Buildzoid talked about it a lot. Dual rank is much harder on IMC than single rank. You only ever go dual rank if you need more than 48GB of memory.

>>103014139
The exploding 7800X3Ds already memoryholed?

>>103014160
intel sponsored fud

>you can't actually buy an Arrow Lake if you wanted to
So what happens now?
Did they pull it out of embarrassment?
Are they going to redo the launch next month?

>>103013983
Dual rank was meta on DDR4 because Rank Interleaving gave you more perf than the higher freq/timings you got on single rank and also because single rank on DDR4 capped out at 16GB.
On DDR5 it's only purpose is more memory.
>>103014160
Nothingburger just like 12VHPWR drama. Might as well never leave your house if you're worried about one in a thousand freak accidents.

>>103014181
Nothing. It was a paper launch, more stock is coming soon. Intel had these shitty paper launches since 10900K.

the 7800X3D i got for 330 on friday finally arrived, RAM and mobo due tomorrow. it's happening bros!

>>103014209
>the 7800X3D i got for 330
second hand or wtf happened

>>103014219
ebay had a 20% off sale with some stores and I guess I won

>>103014225
>ebay
people still legitimately use ebay? Just seems like scammer central where I live
Either you get a 2nd hand item in a dogshit state, you overpay like mad or you don't get what you expect

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I watched gamer Jesus talk for an hour about 12VHPWR connections melting even though my GPU only uses a single 8-pin PCIe connector.

I just like listening to the prophecy.

>>103014245
ebay is great. i got a free brand new 10900k off it because they shipped after their guaranteed receive date

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/indian-firms-secretly-funneled-amd-nvidia-ai-gpus-to-russia-sanctions-reportedly-skirted-on-hundreds-of-millions-of-dollars-of-hardware

AROUND POOJEETS NEVER RELAX

>>103014245
lots of real stores have ebay storefronts and sell on there,i only use it for cables and when there is a ridiculous deal like this and will only go through trusted sellers

>>103013857
I always get the CO fans with ball bearings, never had an issue with those.

>>103014049
Not on this computer. I kinda use this for work. Also, this was duckduckgo.

>>103014245
ebay has been pretty good for me, I've gotten a few scam sellers and it always resolved in my favor. I trust it more than AliExpress.

>>103014253
He talks like a retarded monke when its scripted. He is much more fun and shows how knowledgable he is on streams.

>>103014267
If not India, it would have happened through China. They did it through India, because of the trade deficit that they acquired for selling oil for worthless rupees.

>>103014209
What board and what GPU?

>>103014330
gone for the HDV/M.2 as I've got a Lian-Li a3 wood edition on back order and it's going with my 7900XT

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There's 2 fan mounts behind the HDD cage so the fans will be entirely inside the case. I want to leave the cage in so I guess it's a good idea to put some fans in to help pull air from the front fan further back. I'm thinking lower RPM fans to just keep air moving but not compete with any of the other fans. Maybe slim ones?

The front fan is the stock 200mm big boy. I'm leaving that in cause it's nice and quiet.

>>103014267
Based india

>>103014146
>>103014139
I might need 64gigs for vms and shit. Its not like you can upgrade the ram, can't use the other two slots.

>>103014352
>HDV/M.2
Couldn't find this board. Its always sold out. Nice build anon. Post pics once its done.

>>103013390
2x32gb 6000cl28 would be awesome to have desu

>>103014209
>7800x3d for $330
very based, when youre getting it for this cheap you wont even care that the 9800x3d is so close

>>103014376
feelsbadman, I actually got it for just over 100 too
>>103014383
>you wont even care that the 9800x3d is so close
I've been waiting for it but this was too good a deal to pass up

>>103014398
I still want this board for a nas build. I was even thinking am4, it might be cheaper to go am4.

>>103014408
for a NAS surely like a 4100 and A320/A520 would do?

Fuck monitors, everything sucks, OLEDs for $400 when?!

I sure hope Intel will be able to unfuck Arrowdozer with BIOS/chipset/Windows/whatever updates, two years of unbridled jewry from AMD is not an optimistic prospect.

>>103014423
oleds that dont burn in when

>>103014485
when microled becomes available for consumers :)

>>103014420
B450M-HDV and B550M-HDV are cheap as shit over here, B550 Pro4 looks great, but a bit more expensive. If I buy 3 exos 8tb drives, its difficult to swallow a proper the setup with backups, with the same build replicated. Is nas with zfs and backups only for rich people?

>>103014436
Unlikely, Intel will be in limbo for a few generations until they unfuck their fabs and figure out chiplet interconnect without breaching AMD patents.

>>103014485
never, but I won't care if it's under $500, I'd just get a new one in 3 years.

>>103010823
> OS / games
Which one? Don't tell me you don't use a dedicated storage for each. At least get a smaller (1TB) for OS and a bigger (4TB) for games! Samsung 990 for games and some cheap Lexar for OS.

>>103010956
Please don't post links to woke infotainment sites here, thank you.

>>103014499
id rather get one that lasts 9 years for $1500 than have to go through all that shit

>>103014518
>to go through all that shit
what click and wait for delivery? do you even understand how money works?

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>>103014423
>Fuck monitors, everything sucks, OLEDs for $400 when?!
If you can bare splurge just a bit, there's 1440p model that's down to $450 now with instant $100 Off Coupon:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CMSVLJW2
Cheapest deal I've seen all year.

>>103014514
Their tier list is competent though.

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my laptop's SSD crashed fatally, the partition table is fucked and I can't reformat it. I managed to recover some of my more valuable documents.
But i need to find a replacement.
spec sheets are pic related.

Anyone know which models/manufacturers have the longest lifespan?

>>103010956
> Updated - 04/02/2024
just use https://ssd.borecraft.com/SSD_Buying_Guide_List.pdf like the OP says when it's not vandalized by a retard

>>103014533
wish I could, cheapest here is $700 delivery from chinaman in 2 months.

disregard >>103014547
i'll just look at >>103014548 's link

god i love overkill coolers so much
i love having my fans set to only 30% when gaming

>>103014548
I linked boredcraft as well anon.

>>103014604
cool desu ne?

>>103014604
Are there any AIOs that use the ridiculous sized fans?
Like are there 2x180mm or even 3x180mm AIOs?

>>103014604
I keep all my system fans at 650RPM. HDD when its on is way louder than my case.

>>103014659
AIOs suck.

>>103012654
Think your best bet is researching it to see if others are having problems. I'm getting a 12900k coming from a 8700, so all should be good.

>>103014672
yes, that's irrelevant to what I asked though you faggot

>>103014682
It is very relevant, some poor soul may purchase an AIO and regret it.

>>103014672
>>103014688
AIOs are fine if youre using a chip that needs them, otherwise youre probably overpaying and are completely fine with some cheap tower cooler

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>>103011198
>>103011251
My beQuiet's "Silent" Base 802 is nearly perfect. Has great airflow with 3x140mm front intake and 3x120mm Radiator exhaust in top + 140mm in rear, keeps my two buzz saw HDDs quiet in a sturdy cushioned cage near the bottom and can be made very silent on the fly when less cooling required/permitted. It's the best of two worlds and you can get it even without a fucking useless glass panel for cheaper!

>>103014688
I don't think someone mentioning the existence of a 3x180mm AIO would buy it on a whim, anon
I doubt there's a single person ITT that has a case that can fit a 3x180mm

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>>103014709

Trying to choose between a 4070 and 7800XT. The 7800XT is $20 cheaper where I live.
Unfortunately, I can't get my hands on a 4070 Super because they're $70~$100 more expensive here.

>>103014746
7900GRE or XT not on sale? 7900XT for $650 is GOAT.

>>103014746
Want to use DLSS and (some) RT? 4070. Want to run native and pure raster? 7800XT (also check pricing on the GRE).

>>103014726
> 3x180mm AIO
Large fans make poor air pressure, are not effective with densely finned radiators.

>>103014769
7900XT and GRE are $70~80 or so more expensive than the 4070 Super here so even further beyond my budget.

>>103014775
Does the thing about 7800XT being better on native and raster performance matter as much as DLSS? Lurking around here I've seen people say DLSS matters more and will be more important in the future.

Hardly pc building, but what's a good and cheap headset or what should I be looking for when browsing for one?

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So what's the rationale behind AIOs being near perfect with reliability with zero maintenance while a custom loop needs vigorous yearly maintenance?

AIOs are mixed metal loops and are apparently "fine" for years with a glycol based coolant, custom loops are usually full copper and it's easy enough to get coolant but are still problematic according to the internet.

>>103014866
>7900XT and GRE are $70~80 or so more expensive...
Alright then. Budget is budget.

>Does the thing about 7800XT being better on native and raster performance matter as much as DLSS?
DLSS is generally agreed to be the best upscaler but it's fundamentally subjective as to whether you're happy with its tradeoffs. I don't play AAA games so I can't give you an informed opinion - you should check out some comparison videos.
The 4070 is damned close to the 7800XT in terms of raw raster as well so it should be the default choice with price equality. The exceptions being if you know a) you don't want its features or b) you need 16GB of VRAM.

>a decent ups for my rig costs me 400 euro not including the electricity and replacing battery costs
I've had some outages lately, since I live in a rural area. Is this shit really worth it or should I just get a decent power surge protector instead? Any recommendations? Are there any which can filter dirty electricity?

>>103014869
Do you have a proper set of headpphones/speakers for music or will it be your primary audio device?

>>103014925
I do have speakers. The headset will be mainly for discord and to reduice noise at night

>>103014869
For the price of a good headset or less you are better served with a quality pair of headphones and a discrete studio mic on a boom. Much better sound and recording quality. If you must have an all-in-one solution your best bet is probably the Sennehiser/Drop + EPOS PC38X
https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/drop/sennheiser-epos-pc38x

>>103014869
I'll say the same thing to everyone else that asks about headphones/headsets
If you can afford to use open back headphones, buy a Samson SR850. They're cheap, sound good and will break in 2-3 years.
Pair this with a cheap boom arm desk mic (if you can afford to clamp it somewhere) which should also only be 20-30. If you don't like the SR850's sound signature (which is a possibility), you can use it to help you decide a different choice in the future, if you want less bass, something like the MDR7506 might be a good choice.

I've had four people buy the SR850 off my suggestion and all of them liked it. I'm currently on my fourth pair about to buy my fifth

990 Evo or 990 Pro for reliability? I know they're both overpriced but I need one for a customer within a few hours and those are the only options.

>>103013408
>CUDIMM expo kits over 8000 will unlock Zen 4 and Zen5 performance.
Neither Zen4 nor Zen5 support CUDIMM, I even have read that Zen4 can't boot if you try to use CUDIMMs.

>>103014990
>samsung
>reliability

>>103012288
Hello bot-sama, update your news slop.

>>103014939
That's good. Means you don't have to be too concerned about audio quality. If you were, I'd say to get one from a proper HiFi company (I'm fond of Beyer) and that might still be a fine option if you've got the budget. OTOH, if it's going to be mostly voice you can get away with something cheaper. IIRC the HyperX Cloud 3 was the go-to /hpg/ recc for the frequent "gamer headset request" posts.

>>103015022
I'm in a small town in Eastern Europe, it's a miracle any store stocks NVMe drives. It's either Samsungs or trash-tier Seagate QLC.

>>103014990
For reliability you'll have to go with u.2, in consumer disks, 990 pro is pretty good.

Why have computers stayed in the one-sided-PCB prison for so long?
Wouldn't you be able to drive RAM faster if you just put the ram slots directly on the other side of the PCB from the CPU for minimum distance and interference from other traces?

>>103014944
>>103014989
While I do appreciate your recommendations and will check the SR850, I think studio headphones and mic go beyond my needs. I obviously listen to music, but I'm far from an audiophile or music connoisseur and I won't be doing any recordings. I'll mainly use the headset for gaming and discord calls with my friends, nothing fancy.

>>103015074
>directly on the other side of the PCB
CAMM2 will enable that.

>>103014990
Reliability (MTBF) will be about equal for a small deployment but the Pro should be preferred if performance is important.

>>103015074
If that's the only thing you change, not really. Also a lot of coolers these days need custom backplates there. Also also, there are boards which at least have a few M.2 drive slots on the back.

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Is thus true?

>>103015110
woah

>>103015110
hoyl fuck

>>103015075
an SR850 should cost you about 30, a cheap chink boom arm + mic should run about 30
Any usable headset is going to cost at least that much and this combo will perform better in both regards

>>103015110
it's 195 atm

>>103014912
>The 4070 is damned close to the 7800XT in terms of raw raster as well so it should be the default choice with price equality.
The only doubt I'm having about the 4070 other than whether DLSS is needed is that the model I'm looking at is the MSI Ventus 2X E1 OC.
Those 2x Ventus coolers are supposedly bad or something.

>The exceptions being if you know a) you don't want its features or b) you need 16GB of VRAM.
I don't play many AAA games and not really interested in RT, but my reasoning going into this is that the Nvidia card's features are nice to have if I ever need them.

>>103014990
I have an old 256gb pro model from before 900s, I think it might be a 7xx, it's still good, meanwhile my ADATA 1tb that I bought after that already failed. So I would stick with Samsung pro.

>>103015110
housefire cpu slower than 5800x3d in cyberpunk on clearance sale

>>103014529
unboxing... moving the old one... getting under my desk... plugging everything in.....

for what?

>>103015295
12th gen is more efficient than the 7950x in games

>>103015170
>Those 2x Ventus coolers are supposedly bad or something.
They are. I'd prefer just about anything else over a Ventus but they are cheap and the card only pulls 200W so it doesn't need a huge cooler. If there's a Dual or an XLR8 or something for similar money I'd take that. If it's like $50 difference just take the Ventus. Maybe undervolt it if the noise is too much.

>the Nvidia card's features are nice to have if I ever need them
Yes exactly. For $20 it's very reasonable. Unless, ofc, you want the VRAM. Thing is, the games that need >12GB are usually those that also need DLSS so it's not quite clear-cut.

Will the 5000 series have reasonable prices in Europe? I wanted to buy a 4070 Ti Super but it's like 900€

>>103015157
But I want the headset so I don't bother anyone with whatever I'm listening to, specially at night. For what I understand, open back headphones will leak noise no matter what

>>103015059
>HyperX Cloud 3
Thanks. I've also been recommended the Corsair HS65. I'll check both out.

>>103015382
>Corsair HS65
I'm sure they'd also sound fine but I'd be put off by the iCue bloatware. Fair enough if you've got a load of Corsair products though.

>>103014672
Arctic Freezers are awesome and not overpriced. I can get a 360 for under €70 here.

>>103015369
they do leak a little but it's not at all comparable to speakers
It's mainly an issue if there's someone like right next to you for example public transport
If you really just want a headset, just get the hyperx cloud

>>103014708
AIOs are more silent. I hate it when the fans of aircoolers spin up on every slight cpu activity. No curve adjustment can make up for this because their heatsinks can't buffer temps nearly as good as the water of rads can.

>>103015335
52w for 5800x3d on average in games
100+w for 12900k on average in games
the latter is still slower than the former

>>103015505
What AIOs let you set fan speed based on water temp like that?

1000 goy bux for 27" oled monitor. WTF? Why is it so expensive? Its approximately the same price for lg, samsung, dell and dell alienware. WTF is this shit. What kind of monitors do I buy? IPS?

>>103015520
12900k is significantly better in tasks other than gaming.

>>103015572
>1000 goy bux for 27" oled monitor. WTF? Why is it so expensive?
Did you see where there's a model is on sale for $450 in >>103014533 ?

I am tired of upscaling and AI

>>103015632
>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CMSVLJW2
Not available in my shithole.

>>103015632
He said OLED but he means QD-OLED

>>103015685
I hear qd-oled is brighter? Any other advantages? I can only find 4 to 5 models in 27", any oled.

>>103015663
goy you will eat up your upscaled frame gened frames and you will like it, stop being so antisemitic

>>103015710
No I'm sick of it. We haven't advanced since 2020 just more AI frames more AI upscaling. Where is the progress for all this money spent

>>103015663
Be glad you're not required to install a brainchip that upscales your dopamine release to play games (yet).

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>https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-has-been-listed-by-first-retailers-in-europe
the 9800x3d will be up to over over $500 lmao

a few days after applying this PTM7950 thing I read that you're supposed to have it go through some heat cycles by running heavy applications for a bit then idling then back again with the benchmarking
Is it strictly necessary? Do I need to sit there for about an hour or two doing this shit or is it just all about seeing results quicker?

>103015780
return to whence you came

>>103015780
I was expecting 600€
Hell I might upgrade if it's 500€

sorry for the taboo, but are pre-builts worth it for the tech inept?

>>103015780
it will be $499

>>103015702
Brighter in non-white colors and a wider color gamut. Also most QD-OLEDs look sharper as they come default with a glossy finish while regular OLEDs are default Matte which gives the picture a hazy look. If you are on a budget and the OLED is $100/150 or more dollars cheaper I'd consider it otherwise QD-OLED is generally the better option. Keep in mind QD-OLEDs don't have a polarizer meaning that in bright environments where you can't control ambient direct lighting by dimming lights or curtians/shades from rear windows the blacks will become lifted with a purple tinge (not noticeable with content).

>>103015858
>he fell for the 7800X3D price hike psyop
good goy

>>103015858
>>103015877
it'll be $550 or more
500 is the price of the 7800 right now
the 7950x is 500 right now, and the 7950x3d is $620 right now, you're naive to think that AMD wouldn't price it at around the $500 mark

>>103015549
Nzxt's can do that

>>103015780
Usually $450 = €450 so it'll probably be 450

>>103015907
Who cares what I fell for if I didn't buy either yet

>>103015979
I care, sentiment-gauging data collection automation monitors 4chaim 24/7 and there are bots shilling product to us in this very thread.
If you are excited for product, you're part of the problem.

Should I avoid GALAX GPUs? They're like $60-$100 cheaper than the same GPU of another brand.

>>103015110
12900K for $335 or 7700X at the same price if upgrading from 3700X?

>>103016141
What's the PC going to be used for?

>>103016141
at that price get a 7700X from aliexpress

>>103016153
blender
sd
source map compilation
minecraft
sony vegas
handbrake
photoshop/pdn

>>103016192
7900x

>>103016192
I'd take the 12900K then. If you're making money from all this then consider the the 7900/X and 14700K.

>>103015473
Arctic Freezer IIi 360 is like $85 here, PS120SE cloeer to $60-70

I have a GPU budget of $350 what do any of you recommend?
USA

>>103016233
6800XT used

>>103015498
Fuck it, I'll try the open back headphones. Sadly, the mic I've found has leds but at least it's somewhat small and cheap. I'm still worried about audio leaking during voicechat, but I can always go back to my old headset if it becomes a problem.

>>103016274
just get a podcasting mic from amazon, will sounds 95% as good as the high end

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kY3pjH

CPU is a placeholder for the 9800X3D. not sure if all the fans are necessary with the case i picked. any other issues? how important is x870?

>>103011026
GRE is stronger than a 4070 ti/super and about the same level as a 4080. Also amd has huge plans in the future to unlock AI cores on these cards.

Hey peeceebeegee
I'm trying to install nvidia drivers through nvcleanstall without telemetry
Everytime I disable driver (not installer) telemetry the installation just fails. I'm using Wangblows 11 24h2. Installing them without disabling driver telemetry works fine. Anyone run into the same issue?

I had a dream that Intel double downed on pajeets and the company stopped existing by the end of the year after reading a news article at night about boeing bringing back retired staff to fix their issues.

>>103016413
No one ever said "My PC is running too cool!". Get as much airflow as possible and work on it being positive pressure. And, with more fans, you can adjust the curves so it's not as loud under low loads.

What's the best price/performance GPU currently?

Should I get a ASRock B660M Phantom Gaming 4 or an MSI Pro B760M-E for an I5 12600K?
They're both on sale at a similar price, I've seen good things about the MSI PRO but the PG4 looks like a more complete package.

>>103016590
It's an important factor, but I would narrow down by what resolution and fps is your target and choose from there. I mean a GTX 1080 can rock 1080p gaming and can be had on the cheap.

>>103016640
Look at features first. Number of M.2 slots, things like wifi 6 and a USB-c header, the number of power lanes, the VRM cooling.

>>103016673
I've been reading things like maximum power it can deliver to the CPU but I can't find it in their website.

>>103016274
Just get something like this
https://aliexpress.com/item/1005006994824375.html

>>103016471
My friend who got fired from Intel said that the jeets were beating out the jews and that soon intel would be an Indian company just like Google.

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okay nig/g/az, I fiddled around with the pg32ucdm in store today, people who say oled is too dim must be retarded, literal display room indoor lighting and it's fine
never trust anyone's opinion, literally everyone is retarded

sadly no pg27aqdp 480hz matte woled slop to demo, have not seen these ones irl yet or any of the matte woleds

>>103015919
the 7800X3D is not meant to be sold for more than $449, anything above that is scalped.
the 9800X3D will be $499

>>103016868
OLED is perfectly fine in well light rooms, the only reason it's called out is due to QD-OLED having a glossy coating which r reflects light.

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>>103016868
What many overlook when it comes to brightness especially with QD-OLED is not only are every component color other than white brighter and purer but that saturation and expanded gamut allows images to be perceived as brighter than they would be by nominal nits measures alone vs. LCD according to the Helmholtz-Kohlrausch Effect. For example in picrel all the colors are exactly the same luminescence but our eyes see the Red & Magenta as being brighter.
https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/exploring-oled-brightness-improvements-woled-vs-qd-oled-and-the-need-for-new-metrics-and-specs

>>103014869
hd599 or hd600 if that is your idea of cheap (you need a dac+amp though)

>>103016917
I understand the complaint if it's direct fucking sunlight, then you need assloads of nits that will fry your eyes any other time in the day, if you gonna place infront of a window with the screen facing it, get a bright lcd since it will look like shit regardless

the glossy coating is literally fine did not see anything, and if it's fine matte will just be worse

>>103016936
I realized this on lcd running a sub 100% srgb gamut display and having to crank up color saturation just to get any color back and more saturated color = more percieved brightness even if there is no more direct light
I do not overlook it I know it's important, never again buying shit color reproduction displays
it's looking like it's qdoled time

>>103016894
Based on what. Who sets a price ceiling on the fastest gaming cpu? That's entirely up to AMD. Gamers are slop addicts they will buy it even at 600

>>103015722
Being eaten up by DEI game devs.

>>103010634
>samsung 990 pro (windows only)
Wait what? I got one specifically for my linux install

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Upgrade CPU for backup PC arrived. Mobo and 2nd M.2 by Sunday.

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when will they update this?

>>103017548
They will post the obituary after Intel's earnings call on Friday.

>>103017548
they keep changing the goal post, first single core performance is all that matters, then Draw power, then cores or some shit now its the "best value for money and market share"

>>103015958
Market conditions have changed. The 9800X3D's uncontested.
13/14th gen i9s aren't attractive chips to buy and AMD's only real competition is their products.
Only Intel fanatics will buy Arrow Lake, those people don't matter because they never considered the -X3D chips in the first place.
AMD will not sell the 9800X3D for $450 ASP under these conditions.

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yes goy intel is the fastest.

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yes goy amd is 24th in speed

>>103017221
>a literal 8 core
should be 300 at best

>>103017459
>backup pc
that's called your phone

>>103017643
by allah Intel will price dump and you can buy a cuck ecore cpu and disable 90% of it and just run a 8c/16t chip and game

>>103017716
>that's called your phone
Not when your main PC is rocking a 13700K, which is slowing turning into a puddle of instability, oxidation, and failure.

>>103017771
should have locked the volts to 1.3v like advised, sir
oxidation was a small batch, sir
rma your chip and 1.3v next time, sir

5700x3d is half the price of 5800x3d where i live
thinking on getting it idk if i should wait more for am5 shit to be released

rocking an rtx 3060 with an i5 9400f and 32gb 2666 atm, long time i don't even touch in the guts of my computer

I'm starting to see the limitations of mITX motherboards. Not only is there basically no choice, the lack of PCIe slots when one is dedicated to the GPU kinda FUCKING sucks if you don't like what they put on the motherboard.
Like, say I don't like the Ethernet chip on the Gigabyte B650I Aortus Ultra. I'd have to desolder and then resolder the fucking Ethernet chip on the motherboard itself. I don't even know if that's possible, but I sure as fuck know that it's not a good idea.

Maybe taking the SFFPC pill was a bad idea...

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I want to add a usb c port to my lian li lancool ii case but lian li doesn't sell the cable anymore, how can I figure out which cables would be compatible? I'm not drilling holes in my case.

>>103017839
5700x3d is a good cpu and it is a lot cheaper. I think there's about a 15% loss of performance over the 5800x3d, but in real world applications, you're probably good. In case you missed it, it's not an overclockable cpu by any normal means, so what you see is what you get.

>>103017919
You can get a basic pcie USB card for the back for like $20.

>>103017839
>5700x3d is half the price of 5800x3d where i live
should be even cheaper than that

>>103016590
7800XT/7900GRE

>>103017839
>>103018107
$137 on AliDepress this Friday if you wanna roll the dice. I can't make myself order from there.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807467875353.html