What matters is the idle power draw and intel shines there and in tasks like chilling as users wont run it all the time in gaming or rendering.
Want an intel cpu at 20-30ºC or a 7800x3d cpu at 50-60ºC while doing nothing and sucking power because they need those extra W to keep their infinity fabric running?

Any recommendations for a desk? Mine is getting really old and busted.

>>103032791
I want a cpu that doesn't suck dick so I get AMD
>>103032796
get a nice top slab & then get the legs separate (maybe extending ones)

>>103032796
theres pretty cheap standing desk frames on amazon
check out flexispot
then just order a table top to go with it

I currently use the gigabyte g27q
do you think it's worth upgrading to the M32U right now? I don't want to spend more than 500-600bucks and I could barely find any good monitors in that range that are 4k and 32inch
there's the g3223q and a risky panel lottery LG

>>103032791
idle power draw only matters on laptops

>>103032723
Hoping that HL2 w/ RTX will be less of a clusterfuck than Portal with RTX and that it runs better whilst respecting the art style of the game.

Anyone have any tips on how I can shop cases by height ? I currently have a corsair case that's 17 inches tall and fits ATX mobo and everything. Shopping around the smallest mid towers are 18-20 inches now?

>>103032892
No

>>103032791
The high idle consumption problem on AMD was a bug with Zen 1 and Zen 1+ because the C-states had to be disabled for stability reasons, it doesn't really apply for modern CPUs and it's just a meme at this point, a system with a 4600G only needs like 12 watts at idle, almost N100 territory.

>>103032937
Alright.

>>103032922
Don't know how to search for it. But you can check out Coolermaster N400. Only 426 mm tall.

>>103032791
what matters is race to sleep. amd cpus/gpus shut off cores when they finish a task. you cant measure this type of stuff with usual software (unless you have ryzen master). you notice it with a oscilloscope. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92rrEMPmL9M

>>103032791
>50c idle
Lmao? Mine idles at 30-40c

>>103033041
you're telling me my 5600 shouldn't be using 40w when not really doing anything?

>>103033167
mine has PBO and auto oc enables and is currently shitting between 8.5W and 8.8W whilst shitposting. you might have a virus

MSI Ventus 3x 4070ti super at like 20% below MSRP new. Yes or no? I mean in the context of 4070ti super manufacturers.

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>>103033401
Doesn't appear to be getting used all that much though
hovering 4-8%

>>103033167
40 W is kinda high
soc voltage in hwinfo?

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>>103033572
Is he gonna make it doctor?

>>103033595
that's not hwinfo

>>103033595
yeah that's what i thought (thanks gigabyte)
1.2 V is excessive and unnecessary, go into the BIOS and set it to 1.1 V

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>>103033595
Mine is around 30W idle

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>>103033609
I mean it says the same shit there
>>103033623
fuck another setting I gotta change each week after cleaning since my cmos slot got fucked
thanks gigabyte

>>103033657
>fuck another setting I gotta change each week after cleaning since my cmos slot got fucked
lmao, it's not like it's dangerous or anything but it's still unnecessary and retarded

the CPU will run faster at lower SOC voltage because
1. the SOC eats up less of the available power budget, leaving more headroom for the cores to boost
2. the memory controller becomes less stable and trains worse after around 1.1-1.15 V
https://github.com/integralfx/MemTestHelper/blob/oc-guide/DDR4%20OC%20Guide.md#amd-imc
>There are clear differences in how the memory controller behaves on the different CPU specimens. The majority of the CPUs will do 3466MHz or higher at 1.050V SoC voltage
>All of the tested samples illustrated negative scaling (i.e. more errors or failures to train) when higher than 1.150V SoC was used. In all cases the maximum memory frequency was achieved at =< 1.100V SoC voltage.

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>testing out various loonix distros because MS is being retarded with W11
>dust-out old Vega 64 because freetards told me AMD is better on loonix
>constant crashes on vidya and even watching videos on YT
>dust-out older 980Ti and install proprietary drivers
>It just works.
Even on loonix NVIDIA is still better kek.

>>103033714
>poorfag gachafag shitposting about cards he doesn't own
clockwork

>>103033714
yeah I have a gtx1060 that works great with proprietary drivers, but my rtx3060 runs like shit no matter what I do

>>103033657
my 5700x also idles at 30-40W
doesn't matter

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>checking for monitors
>see some with fucking 6bit colors
Does the output look life fucking gif or something?

>>103033714
what's with gachafags and ancient hardware?
don't they have like $999999 to gamble for their JPGs?

>1080p cpu benchmark of a videogame
>on a 4090
>we are serious gaymin jurnoz

>the new asus thunderbolt 5 add in card only works with the brand new intel chipset motherboards
God DAMNIT Ibwas hoping it would work with my b650e-f but nope

>>103033797
I feel embarrassed for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DfGNPiNTuM

>>103033797
I hope you're merely pretending and not actually retarded

>>103033714
Are you 100% sure you have the latest amdgpu from Ubuntu's repositories?

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>only "respectable" 16:10 screen I can get is a fucking dell
Why did the industry forsake this ratio?

>>103033890
they got ratio'd
I'll see myself out now

>>103033839
That's a game which requires a 4090 to be any good.

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>>103033723
ogey
>>103033751
>but my rtx3060 runs like shit no matter what I do
have you tried with the open kernel modules?
>>103033791
I am not poor so I don't need to sell my old GPUs, my Windows PC has a 3080ti/5800x3d, I am just testing the waters with loonix.
>>103033870
CachyOS is Arch-based, should have newer drivers than Ubuntu.

>>103033890
>respectable
What's """respectable""" for you?
Asus also has content creator line of 16:10 monitors.

>>103033936
>CachyOS is Arch-based, should have newer drivers than Ubuntu.
Ubuntu is an AMD partner. Good luck with other stuff.

any desktop DAC recommendations that work with 2.1 speakers? this is my first time not using onboard sound so i don't know what to buy. or should i just get a sound card?

>>103033839
Hello?
>>103033920

He's on an RTX 4090. Nice card, but not realistic for most people, most people won't spend that. Example, even Donald Trump's son gamed on a laptop (he may have upgraded since Trump mentioned that). Yes, even the most famous and important and rich person's kid doesn't have a 4090, it's a cool card, but a grail card for most people.

>>103033943
It's basically the same shit with only 75Hz compared to the Dell's 100Hz and more expensive

>>103033495
Does it fit your case?

>>103033714
wouldn't surprise me if those old GCN cards aren't being regression-tested anymore

>>103033495
I think the ventus line has dogshit components but idk if it's all of them.

>>103034022
>being regression-tested anymore
The 980Ti is older than Vega64...

>>103034028
i know
do you think valve cares if vega still works?

>>103034039
Considering there is a shit ton of laptops with vega iGPUs, they should.

>>103034052
those work fine
i know because i own one

>>103034064
Don't dVega and iVega share the same Mesa driver?

>>103034076
they're both GFX9, other than that i don't know the details
seems more likely your crashes were caused by something else, like cachyos patches

>>103034001
the point of cpu testing is to test the cpu, the 4090 is just a test card because it has the least bottlenecks which shows cpu performance the best.
dumb fuck.

Is 32:9 actually any good or is it just a meme screen ratio

>>103034111
There is no content for ultrawide

>>103034111
ultrawides are memes

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who the fuck told jufes about factoriobox
i know you're here, reveal yourself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AFpCeV60Gg

i know this isn't the place for it but since you all are tech nerds (hopefully white ones)
would you recommend investing in intel stocks? could they improve their products in the future?

>>103034064
He's on arch - does arch work with anything?

>>103034192
I'm not going to watch your shit jewfus

>>103034235
With nvidia apparently

>>103034235
i use arch lmao
>>103034239
someone in this thread is giving him money

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Do all roads lead to Logitech when it comes to periferies?

>>103034330
I used to like them. That was a long time ago. They don't make a single thing I like. I've been using Corsair. For me, they're fine, but to be fair, I don't think anyone makes anything great anymore. Logitech peaked with the 518 mouse.

>>103034192
Buya an ad, we all know you can afford it with all that money you scam from retards on discord

Is 2 intake on the bottom and 3 exhaust on the top (aio) a good fan config?

Speaking of mice, is Razer any good or is it all just marketing?

>>103034102
Since you think so highly of cpu reviews for gaming, which cpu should someone get who is buying a 4060? We know the answer can't be a 7800x3d. Clearly that's more perf than he'll need. Since he is a real gamer, we know he'll be running up 1440p, or upscaling to 4k (again, realistically we know what he will do - first he'll try to turn everything to max, then get irritated and try finally to get good settings)

>>103034442
5600 if a poorfag or 7600 if he wants to get on AM5

>>103034422
they're fine. Not durable, but I like them because they seem light.

>>103034465
You're spitballing, remember to back it up with charts 8^) He wants to play the monkey game.

>>103033890
BenQ has a couple nice 2560x1600 monitors, essentially the only ones on the market, but they're only 60hz without freesync

>>103034192
maybe hes just lurking here which isnt any better

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>>103034475
I'm not spit balling at all. are you an actual idiot?

>>103034665
Considering how he's an intel shill he could even be the mass replier.

>>103034762
the mass replier can spell properly
so no, it's not jufes

What the fuck are people going on about with AM5 boards being so expensive, I see them go for the same am AM4 motherboards

>>103034814
they were expensive during the first six months of the platform launch because (((motherboard vendors))) were doing dumbshit skus and overbuilding VRMs.

>>103034814
poorfags are the cause

>>103033723
lol BTFO

>>103034814
post covid supply issues

>>103034735
>4090
>1080p

???

He's not going to buy a 4090, and he'll be playing 1440 or 4k, or more likely upscaled to 4k, or at least try.

He'll be gpu bound in many scenarios. So, he shouldn't spend too much on a cpu.

But, your image offers no insight into which to buy.

>>103034954
4090 is there to remove bottlenecks dumdum

>>103034192
why do grown men acting and making content like this always share the exact same facial features
old bald heads with shitty beards should get punched in the face

>>103034954
>But, your image offers no insight into which to buy.
that is because you're an idiot, that is the maximum performance those CPUs can offer with the best GPU available.
none of those CPUs will bottleneck a 4060 at 1440p or 4k, the GPU will be the bottleneck.

What’s the consensus on upgrading ram by buying the same model and just adding that?

63mm of clearance. what cooler to get? for 7800X3D. thanks

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>>103035160
what shoebox case do you fucking have?

>>103035210
haha a formD T1 because I'm a moron

>>103035121
that doesnt work well on ddr5 because of its high speeds

>>103034018
Yeah I got a big enough case
>>103034027
Is it really that bad? I've seen some decent reviews compared to the TUF, but some people have complained about coil whine.

Hmm I might take the shot because I fully expect NVIDIA to just raise the price bar even more with new gen and their supposed planned discontinuation of these older cards.

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Can a good anon explain to me intel's e-core and p-core thingy like I'm 5

>>103035490
amd makes fast, good, cheap cpus using 2-3 smaller chips
intel can only make 1 big expensive chip. so they put small cores into their big chip to make it faster and not so expensive

>>103035490
You must be 18 YO to be here.
Intel's chip design team had to work around the space limitations of the 10nm node they were working with while AMD had access to TSMC's 7/6nm processes.
It wasn't able to compete against AMD's CPUs with just 8~12 P-Cores in multi-threaded workloads, which includes a lot of productivity and server loads.

So Intel decided to pair 8 P-Cores and 16 smaller E-Cores in the 13/14th gen to compete against AMD's 16 core CPU.
4 E-Cores takes up about 1 P-Core worth of area in a 13/14th gen Intel CPU die.

The E-Cores are weaker than P-Cores and can cause scheduling issues for games that generally prioritize strong single-threaded performance, especially games with anti-cheat running in the background.

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>>103032791
my 7800x3d draws 14W average when browsing, the whole PC as measured on wall consumes 36W average.

>>103035680
Fake news
It'll be zen5*2% at best

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God please let me graduate on time and get a job I want to spend so much money on computers

>>103035689
>zen5*2%
that's still 230fps with 164fps 1% lows...

>>103035689
What's the rationale for that? Zen 5 has a starved backend that will get to stretch its legs more thanks to vcache. Moreso than zen 3 or 4 did. It'll probably be a bigger leap from the 9700x than the 7800x3d was from the 7700x.

>>103035725
that's the best possible result. it'll probably be between 5-7% faster

>>103035732
zen5 is frontend bottlenecked like all other x86 cpus. if it wasnt, vcache would have no benefit since the frontend would be idling waiting for the backend to finish its work

>>103035757
>t. armchair chip architect

>>103035771
Hey I want it to be >10% faster than the 7800x3d too but I don't see it happening
If it is, I'd buy it on day 1

>>103035769
Correct, you're agreeing with me. A bottlenecked frontend results in a starved backend. Additional 3d cache results in a frontend which is able to feed much more instructions to the backend. So expect 3d cache to be a really big deal here. 10% isn't the maximum, it's the minimum.

>>103035757
5% is minimal uplift, AMD claims 8%.
in any case its still going to be king of the hill as long as there's not a regression in performance.

>>103035793
that remains to be seen since amd cucked single thread performance by limiting each smt thread to 4-wide decode

>>103035814
Indeed. Amd are attempting some silicon sorcery with their branch predictor to make 4 wide decode a non-issue but it does remain to be seen. The next week is going to feel painfully slow waiting for the 9800x3d reviews to drop.

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>>103035651
>>103035651
what
how?
Why is my less powerful 7600 drawing more power than fricking x3d????

>>103035838
Clocks. Also probably binning; presumably they only slap expensive vcache onto goodbinz, but still mostly clocks.

>>103035838
he probably a board that fudges numbers desu
my 7800x3d idles at 42W package power

>>103035852
that is with OC'd 6200mhz memory and 1.25v soc btw
at jedec 5200, it idles similarly to your 7600 at mid/low 30s

>>103035860
>>103035847
>>103035852
I don't understand, what clocks?
His x3d clocks are higher than mine, yet consumes less power.

Should I undervolt the 7600 or should I go buy the x3d? Living in EU and power consumption was a mega factor for picking 7600

Convince me out of using an arctic liquid freezer iii 360 for my 7800x3d
If it’s overkill, it’ll be really quiet, and it’s cheaper than the NH-D15 while cooling better

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>e-cores designed in Austin singlehandedly carrying errorlake
>p-cores designed in Israel Haifa causing latency problems and destroying gaymen performance
yup, i think america won

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>>103035255
>look it up
SFFfags are truly special kind of people

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>>103035852
my board is MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI if you idle is 42W then you got bad settings

>>103035885
A 240 would be adequate cooling
A 280 is 35% more radiator area meaning way better cooling than even that
A 360 is only 10% more area than a 280, which is already overkill.

Now here's the kicker, a 280 is cheaper and runs much quieter because 140mm fans are much more silent than 120; especially 3 of them.

If you're dead set on an aio get a 280. More case options too.

>>103035878
the cost from buying the new cpu will negate any cost savings in energy efficiency, that also doesnt exist between these 2 cpus

>>103035037
>none of those CPUs will bottleneck a 4060 at 1440p or 4k, the GPU will be the bottleneck.
chart?

>>103035922
He probably meant to say 4090. Also game dependent. There are definitely some games that will bottleneck on a 7800x3d or 14900k even at 1440p with a gtx 1070. Yes. 1070. Stellaris is a hell of a drug.

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>>103032723
My system is old and my gpu is getting pounded by newer games.

How much benefit is there to repasting the CPU and GPU?

How much can go wrong?

I've never done it but I'm reasonably handy. If there's any risk of bricking it, I probably won't do it.

>>103035934
Repasting only helps if your CPU or GPU is overheating at 100C and >83C respectively

>>103035934
You're really that scared of bricking a 90 dollar gpu?

>>103035878
try undervolt your cpu and use balanced or eco power profile in windows

>>103035888
It's too bad the suits at Intel chose to close down the e-core team and merge them into the P-core team.

>>103035973
The Jews being the cause of their own destruction?
A tale as old as time

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https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/cpDBgB

(Currently using stock CPU cooler, and I have a white Corsair RM750 lying around)

My gpu is super old.
I want to play BG3, CoD and cyberpunk, but mostly BG3. Monitor is also old, but maybe I want to upgrade that too in order to play 1440p in the future. Or not, there's no AAA game I want to play.

Which (white) gpu should I get?
Scared of AMD drivers

>>103035993
avoid 1440p and get the cheapest white 4060

>>103035984
Intel is unfortunately rotten from the inside, way too many politics involved. The p-core team has more seniority and therefore they get the executives favor, even Keller said there was no fixing Intel with their current "culture" and years later they've scrapped all his work and proven him right.

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>>103035888
>>errorlake

>>103035993
Idk what's your budget but from my memory the white cards are
msi ventus 2x or 3x and gaming slim
gigabyte aero, eagle
one inno3d variant
zotac kinda grayish but heard their cards are ass so idk
palit

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>>103035878
> power consumption was a mega factor for picking 7600
You can adjust the power usage of your chip.
Anyway, 7600 is the lowest-binned Zen5 chip. The silicon quality of an individual 7600 could be anything between "almost a 7600x" and "dodged the trashcan by a hair."
Due to thermal concerns, 7800x3d was probs binned for power efficiency. As opposed to clock speed, which would have been more useful on 7700x, 7950x, or even the non-x3d chiplet of 7950x3d.

>>103032796
old arcade cocktail table

>>103035949

yeh its topping off around 84c and the CPU topped at 70c so I think I'm good.

>>103035956
That hurt me bro.

I just came here for some advice, not to be GPU shamed.

Why you want to hurt me?

>>103032796
Floor

Do Case Fans degrade over time? My front ones are making a rattling sound at idle. Arctic F12 for reference.

>>103036128
Dust it, if issue persists, replace them. All moving parts degrade.

>>103035878
Silicon lottery. Nothing you can do about it.

>>103036113
Try overclocking. Grow thicker skin anon. This is 4chins.

>>103036006
They need someone like mommy Su and Jim Keller to turn it around.

>>103035160
Do you have space for aio? 240 or 280 arctic lf3?

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If I don't have some super high-end screen, does it matter if I use HDMI or DP?

>>103035680
What is the point of 240hz monitors? If the best can't get it past 230?

>>103036219
No. What screen do you have?

Does my motherboard need a pump header to be compatible with a water cooler?

>>103035005
nta, but yes you dumbass, its there to remove bottlenecks
but its still taking measurements at 1080p with a 4090, which is NOT REALISTIC
for the VAST majority of people, they will be in a far more GPU constrained situation, eg at 1440p with a 4070super or a 4080super. and in that situation, the practical difference between eg a 7800x3d and a 7600x will be basically 0.
hence the claim that people in the real world are generally better off buying a cheap(er) cpu and spending most of their money on a gpu.
there are exceptions to this, ofc. like, if some1 spends all their time playing civ/factorio and other such gpu undermanding but cpu demanding games, then i can see investing in the cpu. but in the general case, fuck no.

>>103036238
depending on the model of aio yes

>>103035362
I bought the MSI Shadow 4070 Ti Super which is just a Ventus reskin and I don't have any coil whine. Been good so far.

>>103036219
You need either DP or HDMI 2.1 for Freesync on Nvidia. Only the 4000 series cards have 2.1 so older models will need to use DP.

>>103036329
How can I tell?

>>103036424
some models like the higher end corsair ones use an internal USB header for pump speed and fan speed regulation

>>103036409
Rtx30 has hdmi 2.1

One more week until we get to wait one more month for the 9800X3D to be in stock after it's bought out by scalpers.

>>103036424
I don't think the first anon is entirely correct. You can run most AIO pumps off of a standard fan header with some exceptions which should be obvious from the manual. If you do need to do it you might get misreporting in pump speed due to polling differences. It won't matter if you're giving it the full 12V but it could cause some confusion if you decide to run at a lower speed.

>>103036424
>>103036493
Oh, and I should warn you to check the current draw against the fan headers' spec. Pumps typically need more current than fans. There /should/ be a big safety factor on these things but a board without a dedicated pump header is probably pretty cheap so best not to trust to that - if you've got a 2A pump and 1A headers, get an adapter.

>>103036477
true that
I got the 3080 strix within launch month and the 4090 strix on launch day in my cunt and I'm not confident I'll be able to get a 9800x3d by the end of this year desu

>>103036221
no idea, people say the mouse moves smoother

>>103036461
My bad, thanks for the correction.

>>103036221
240(/360/etc)hz panels are for esports, which are quite easy to run on most systems, and where a half decent modern rig will easily do 200+ fps.
that benchmark is either using only AAAs or at best a mixture of mostly AAAs with a couple popular esports titles thrown in. but probably only AAAs.

the more interesting question to ask is, at what hz do all benefits stop? like, how high do the hz has to go before even the professional players stop seeing an increase in their performance?

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>The OLED I've been looking at is now on sale
Will it stay this price for the oncoming holiday sales or do I get it now.
Its not uncommon to have the better deals before holidays and a different shittier one during.

>>103032723
>DO NOT USE ANGLED 12VHPWR ADAPTERS
this wasn't true and it turns out the connectors are just faulty lol
>A new PSU should be ATX 3.0 compliant
why? even most z890 motherboards don't use the gay new connectors
>Aim for 50-75% PSU utilization at full system load
yeah dude everyone totally buys 1200-1500w PSUs

this OP is basically garbage

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If I'm not purely gayming, what is the next best alternative to 5700x3d?

>>103035930
It's not a big deal, it's just funny. Nobody knows which cpu to use with any gpu except the 4090. ie just throw your money down a hole.

>>103036800
if you're not gaming then what are you doing?

>>103036675
wait for another year or two and itll be even cheaper

>>103036800
Seconding >>103036815, what is the system for? Also, do you already have an AM4 motherboard?

cpu benchmarks arent there to tell you which cpu will get x fps with y gpu
theyre there to show you relative performance compared to other cpus
if you want the exact fps youll get for your combo, look it up on youtube and pray someone has done a test with the same gpu, game, resolution, memory speed, memory timings and probably some other shit i forgot.

What’s a quiet PSU that’s ATX 3 and at least 750w? I’m looking to replace the PSU in my system because it’s the loudest part of it, plus it’s old anyway

>>103036838
Sharkoon Rebel P20 750W

>>103036855
That must be a really shitty psu if it's the loudest component in your pc. How the hell is it louder than the gpu?
I'd say most decent psus are practically inaudible, but for what it's worth, I have an 850w montech titan gold and I don't hear it.

>>103036874
meant for >>103036855

list of reasons to build a high end PC right now:

>>103036894
gta 6
tes vi

>>103036894
pretty much, the 9800X3D is going to be great but the 5090 will be out in two months. right now is when 4090 chads should be selling their cards and buying a used 6800XT

>>103036924
>GTA 6
>PC
>now

>>103036855
Check Cybenetics and HWbusters testing for specific models. Look for something with hybrid fanless mode and a large fan. Also, going up on the wattage means the fan won't have to spin as fast, if at all, for a given draw - most kick in at about 40% so aim for a power level where your "typical high" load is under or around that.
For example, a 7600+4070S build will pull about 300W while gaming so an 850W unit, assuming that 40% set point, could run passively almost all the time. Of course even at 50-60% load the fan should be quiet so 750W, or even 650W, might be fine depending on your autism levels.
OTOH if you're regularly loading both the CPU and GPU to 100% you'll need more wattage to stay passive. Though in this circumstance their respective coolers will likely still be louder than a modern high-end PSU so consider upgrading the cooling before you spend $400 on a 1600W supply.

I have a 5800X that I use for gaming. Is the extra cache in a 5700X3D even worth it?

>>103036924
>TES 6
Give up bro.

>>103032910
rtx remix doesn't work with DX9+ so they have to use the undocumented potato mode as a basis
it won't be better

>>103036963
No. just overclock and tighten your ram.

>>103036931
>right now is when 4090 chads should be selling their cards and buying a used 6800XT
thats a risky thing to do since blackwell 202 is chiplet based and could be pozzed from the getgo

Should I get the msi mag a550bn or the Seasonic G12 GC 550W?

>>103037144
Of the two the Seasonic is technically better but at 550W you're not running a high-end rig so it probably doesn't matter. Post your parts list if you want more detailed advice.

>9800X3D in a week
>RTX 50 not for another 3 months
My new build is suffering

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Hello anons, Im finally graduating from a 5600g getting ready for MH:Wilds as I managed to get a good deal on a 4060. I have a B550 Mobo and dont really plan on upgrading anything but my CPU.

So what should I get? No X3d, too expensive.
5600, 5600x, 5700, 5700x ? Best value that doesnt run hot, I'm using some cheap tower cooler.

>>103037205
5700X3D from AliExpress is cheaper than all those other options

>>103037205
Don't buy any one of them until you bench the game. With a 4060 you're probably going to be hard GPU bottlenecked so upgrading the CPU won't do much. If MH:W turns out to be too much for your 5600G then the 5600 will be the best value upgrade but by then you might have enough saved up for a 5700X3D.

>>103037195
It's ok bro
I don't think there will be a CPU fast enough to handle the 5090 without bottlenecking until we get the 2 generations newer 13800x3d

>>103037219
Im very skeptical of aliexpress, and i think id need a bios upgrade and Im too afraid to try and do that, as I might break something

>>103037226
I'd wait for the benchmarks, but theres little to no people who would even bother testing a 5600g+4060 nowadays. Hopefully someone does tomorrow with the betatest. To give me an idea

What should I set my pump speed to if I want it to last as long as possible?

>>103037247
>I'd wait for the benchmarks...
Sure by all means look for some from the beta but you're going to buy the game anyway so you'll be benching it yourself. Runs well? No upgrade necessary. Stuttery mess no matter the settings? Need an upgrade. Due diligence in the second case would be to confirm a CPU bind with RTSS.

>>103037205
5600 best value
5700x good too
5700 is garbage
5600x offers no meaningful advantage over non X

>>103037250
Find the highest that you can tolerate long-term and leave it there (or lower if temps permit). Ramping up and down is more deleterious than any particular speed. Also be aware that this is just fiddling - random chance/defects are going to have a much bigger effect on longevity than your settings.

Is the Xiaomi A27i IPS any good?

>>103037205
>>103037247
Wouldn't you need a bios upgrade regardless? I had to get one for my 5600. Regardless it's really not that scary, especially if you have some manner of EZFlash or whatever.
As for ali, it's safe as long as you don't try to save even more from the aleady very cheap popular store.

I think if you buy anything other than the 5700x3d you're basically throwing money in the garbage because the increase in performance you'll have is minor at best. Checking benchmarks, 5600g & 5600 often perform comparable, with the 5600 doing up to like 15% better in some games. The boost you'll get, especially in 1% lows, from the 5700x3d is significantly more.

Either stay on the 5600g, get a 5700x3d or get a new mobo+ram+cpu

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>>103037244
I'd be surprised if it's even fast enough to keep up with the 5080.

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>>103037498
what? are you retarded?

>>103037498
Ofc you can force AF or even tessellation.. Even DXVK conf let's you do these.

>>103037498
>average Nvidiot

so I know newegg has the new lian li wireless fans up on their site already, but does anyone know when amazon gets them? I only ask cause I got credit there, ditching my TL fans to get those since I've already got the USB and the new strimmer cable

>Despite our use of game-ready drivers from all vendors, the game runs much better on AMD than on NVIDIA. Yup, you read right, AMD has the upper hand here, by a pretty big margin, actually. At 4K, the mighty RTX 4090 gets 102 FPS, the RX 7900 XTX is breathing down its neck with 89 FPS, beating the RTX 4080 Super by a pretty impressive 15 FPS. Even the RX 7900 XT is faster than RTX 4080 Super, and this continues across the whole stack—AMD is rocking the game. Now you probably wonder why you haven't heard about this before. Besides a subpar-crafted press release, AMD didn't mention this to anyone. If this were NVIDIA, they would have sent keys out to everyone who produces tech gaming content. Why not aim to get as much coverage as possible, especially for such a rare event where AMD has the upper hand by a big margin

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/call-of-duty-black-ops-6-fps-performance-benchmark/6.html

>>103035898
yeah, they are called faggots

>>103037637
if a game doesn't respect the AF setting on a newer API then nvidia can't force it either
I couldn't force AF in assassin's creed origins with my 1660 for example.

>>103037637
Various people kept confirming throughout the years, including some AMD Vanguards on Reddit.

Get several DX10/11 games and enable 16xAF on them. You'll see it works.

It doesn't work in Vulkan at all. In DX12 it works when it feels like it.

TL;DR:
1. DX11 and earlier? It works.
2. DX12? Maybe
3. OpenGL. It works
4. Vulkan. Doesn't work. But DXVK can fix it.

>>103035888
>there will never be a cpu with purely e-cores

>>103037637
>Racism outside of /b/
Enjoy your vacation

>>103037681
when was he being racist?

>>103037689
He said the N word with a hard R. That's a vacation outside of /b/.

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I have a gigabyte A520 motherboard with a ryzen 5 3600.

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/A520M-S2H-rev-1x/sp#sp

Thinking about upgrading to a 5700x3d. Reading the specs the board *should* be able to handle it. However, I read a lot about crappy vrm's on these budget boards. Maybe a tdp of 105w is too much... would it help to install a top flow cooler so the vrm doesn't cook?

What's the best monitor you can get for around 90$? I am obviously not looking for anything over 1080p and 75-100 fps.

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271QPX-E2 vs G61SD

>>103037697
that's not racism, he was calling you stupid, he wasn't disparaging a group of people, he was insulting your intelligence directly

>>103037699
That board really is about as cheap as it gets. I am honestly not sure it could handle it but I am also far from an expert.

>>103037708
>Calling someone a Nig isn't racist
You are not black and you are not his nigga

>>103037699
my old gigabyte board handled the untamable vishera, they seem to be good about power

>>103037732
Not only are you wrong but you are also retarded and going to get ranged banned for evading. Hope you like spending 900s waiting for cooldowns just to post incorrect shit that makes you look like a mentally ill brown hands dork with a iPhone instead of a real computer.

>>103037721
AMD has RT
they just don't waste half the gpu die on it
my GPU is a general purpose computing device
yours is fixed function

>>103037721
>>103037732
Lol what a mad kiddy cunt posting with this toddler 4g phone

>>103037771
post an anisotropic filtered road from ACO right now

>>103037782
>>103037764
>>103037735
>>103037721
>>103037637
>>103037498
It works on my 6800XT so WTF are you stupid loud mouth vapid cunts taking about like you are all crying like complete bitches here directly to me you jits

>>103037793
RT runs pretty good on 6000/7000

>>103037699
I am in a sort of similar situation to you only I am not sure whether I should spend the extra 30$ on something better than can definitely run basically every AM4 CPU if I want to upgrade in the future or If I should just get something like that to save money.
I am ultimately quite unlikely to ever upgrade and even If I did, it would take years.

>>103037812
okay so you can't refute that ACO, a DX11 game, can't be forced AF on nvidia

>>103037699
It should be able to handle a 5700x3d
it can handle twice the current of the most garbage 3 phase 1+1 boards

actually before I switched to AMD I remember nvidia updated their drivers so that texture settings would no longer work if you didn't set some obscure flag in inspector

Would putting a 5700x3d in a520 be fine if you are planning on undervolting the chip anyway?

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>>103037812
WTF specific drivers and models are you talking about as today's date October 31st 2024 you stupid fuck you are in fantasy land from outdated times.

>>103037803
>>103037855
1080p bitch ass using broken hw accel browser you only prove me points you are brown hands. You not only post wrong shit but you double down on being a retarded Nvidia owner with broken Nvidia drivers on Windows & Linux as of todays current date and time while you bring up ancient AMD shit that no longer applies today you can only bring up shit from 6-8 years ago long since patched by games & drivers whole Nvidia stills sucks 2024 October 31st.

>>103037882
it needs to boot in the first place to undervolt

>>103037797
Crosslinking question since you guys are the most likely to know if I'm being dumb or missed something to check

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>the current state of nvidia drivers

>you only prove me points you are brown hands.
swarthoid calling others brown. funny.

>>103037476
>>103037244
nvidia copetards

Raptor Lake on 18A when

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>>103037898
Ehhhh... Anon, what if I fit this description?

>>103037882
Sell the PC and come to am5 anon.

>>103037912
>6ghz? what do you need 5.5ghz for? 5ghz is more than what anyone will ever need

>>103037955
Fine we'll add a 4.5ghz boost feature
Hell, if you pay extra & get the K version we'll even let you set it to that 4ghz permanently

>>103037953
I haven't built the PC yet, but AM5 is going to be like double the price to build and it's not like I am going to be doing anything besides 1080p 60fps. So it's just going to be wasted money.

>>103037895
stop using speccy, use HWINFO64, speccy is cabbage.

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How is he holding up?
Think he got laid off?

>>103032723
is there any noticeable difference between hdmi 2.1 and dp1.4 for 4k 240hz using dsc?
can't get 240hz on loonix through hdmi for some reason

>>103038012
>that middle comment
kek
i think he roped

>>103035888
skymont seems like it actually may have delivered

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Concerning oled monitors, would it be wise to wait™ another year or two?
Not just for the price to drop, but until they solve things like text fringing and burn-in.

>>103038046
if the E-core team can improve the IPC again then Intel should get rid of P-cores

>>103038090
its too late. this already happened >>103035973
thats a really intel move desu. just like how they turned down apple's request to design iphone socs, missed the mobile revolution, growth of ai and shipping 10nm on time

>>103032723
My specs: i7700k - 16gb ram - 1070 8gb
Monitor: 1080p 200hz (I'll keep this one)
Country/budget: germany / 700-900€ Euros max
Use-case: primarily esports titles. I would prefer a higher frame-rate. Occasionally I do video encoding.

My goal is to upgrade this 8 year old beast, that still can keep up with many tasks. I wouldn't mind keeping this around for another year. I just want to build something that I can use for another 7-8 years like this one. Any suggestions anons?

>>103038127
come back next week after the 9800x3d reviews are out

>>103038127
14600K, DDR4 motherboard, keep your ram kit. Keep your gpu until February then we will know what RDNA4 and Blackwell have to offer in the low end.

Am I the only person left on earth that uses a desktop at home and doesn't play games?

>>103038178
yes, get a laptop.

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>>103038191
I can't find one I like. Except this which is only for Japan.