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so many cores >>103050917

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I'm going to do it, I'm going to buy an 8 core CPU for five hundred euroshekels in 2024.

>>103051118
mommy

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>>103051153
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/364971098348 get this instead

>>103051153
wait for them to drop prices next year

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>>103051118
>Pytorch just added support for intel oneapi on windows a few days ago
All intel need is a cheap 24gb gpu and I'll buy battlemage

>>103051072
we're 9 weeks away from the next gen of GPUs
buying anything now isn't recommended.

If I have a 650W PSU what's the biggest GPU I can plug into it? I heard that the 40 series ones need a cable adapter or something?

>>103051254
>rocm still not supported on windows
amd sis...

The 4060 ti, still overpriced?

When do the new AMD CPUs release/are available for sale?

>>103051341
good enough for poor people

I have 7 intake fans in my case (3 top, 2 front, 2 bottom) and only one exhaust (at the back). I noticed that the exhaust fan is spinning faster than it's rated for (presumably because of the pressure), will this harm it?

>>103051391
the 9800X3D is out on the 7th of November for $479

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>>103051254
>'All Intel needs is to not make good profits from their dGPU business'

>>103051254
Wait for the AMD workstation APUs with 128GB integrated memory instead.

How often do/should you change your PSU? I’m considering getting a PSU that is overspecced for my build, but would be really nice when I decide to upgrade my CPU/GPU in like 5-7 years

>COPE ultra 285k 20% slower and 30% more expensive than 9800X3D
whats intel's endgame

>>103051484
is your current one high enough wattage? by that time you will need a 4000w psu no point in replacing for no reason

>>103051484
I let mine die, if it's not a piece of shit it will just quietly fail to boot eventually

>>103051470
rocm doesn't even work on natively for windows because the whole library is so intertwined with linux.

>>103051545
rocm has been on windows for months now
there just is an anti-amd bias in the ai community, a lack of will to implement it or fix stuff
whenever nvidia puts out something it'll have support implemented in minutes, but AMD, eh we can't be bothered

>>103051118
What the FUCK
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/z890-motherboards-are-having-instability-issues-with-windows-11-24h2-bios-updates-or-disable-igpud-required-to-update-windows
My amd cpu (5800x) broke last month.
CAN ANY OF THESE FUCKERS MAKE A WORKING CHIP!!!!

>>103051496
I don’t have a PSU right now, but that sounds like bullshit
>>103051533
How long does that usually take?

>>103051576
how did you break a 5800X?

>>103051582
my BeQuiet PSU lasted from 2008 to 2019 I think, so about a decade of daily use

>>103051435
>u vill pay ze RRP
>u vill not get ze discount
>ve vill discontinue zen 4 to keep prices high

>>103051435
Thank you

>>103051634
When will people born after the year 2000 learn the it's not corporations' job to take care of their every need whim like their failures of parents do, but rather to make money.

>>103051649
I'm from the 90's you dumb nigger

>>103051671
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>103051566
no its not. the developers at amd are oddly hostile toward supporting windows. probably one of those insane loonix user. The official way to get rocm to work right now is via wsl.

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>>103050917
>>103051144
ive seen people get 65000 think im capped by only using 2 memory channels or memory speed

So the new releases of AMD means the countdown to grab the last am4 components is on?

>>103051592
what?

>>103051789
just ignore the /pol/ tourist. we have a lot now since the election is this month.

>>103051741
the left ram stick wasn't seated all the way in the pic you posted yesterday

>>103051741
let's see that single core score then

I heard tariffs are gonna make PC parts expensive. Should I buy a new PC now?

>>103051817
doing a run with half cores disabled will check it after its probably ass though kek

>>103051816
yeah i seated it properly before trying to boot, both of those sticks were dead i tried them each individually in every slot so i had to buy more from amazon kek

Brehs, I found 27" Viewsonic VX2758A-2K-PRO-3 for 250bux. It seems to be pretty cheap and a great deal, the features compared to 1440p monitor in OP's rec. What's wrong with this pick anon? I can't find many reviews of this product.

I bought a 7900x and a 7800xt ahead of xmas season killing pc parts stock. Did I fuck up? I bought the video card at msrp but the 7900x was like 375$

>>103051118
sex

>>103051852
(This is in USD of course)

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i can see with the ram i got they sell variants with different xmp profiles can i assume these voltages/timings are safe to overclock too or is it a binning thing?
https://www.kingston.com/unitedkingdom/en/memory/gaming/fury-renegade-ddr5-pro-rdimm?speed=5600mt%2Fs&total%20(kit)%20capacity=16gb&kit=single%20module&dram%20density=16gbit&profile%20type=intel%20xmp

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also just looking the person who got 65k has a turbo max of 4.7ghz mine is only 3.7 is that from overclocking can you change turbo max?

>>103051484
I replaced mine after like 8 years or so. It had been an apparently bottom of the barrel corsair (I didn't know at the time), non-modular and without much headroom for wattage. So I thought why not, for peace of mind; it had served me well but I'd upgrade to something with a reputation for actual quality.

The thing about overspecced PSUs is that the efficiency drops down below the rated power, so if you're going to be upgrading in 5-7 years, just get a bigger PSU then. The memeium ratings categories can help a bit - especially above gold, shit like platinum and titanium rated PSUs are basically equivalent to gold at max load IIRC but maintain higher effiency at partial loads - but you'd still just save more power and probably money buying only what you need right now. Cheaper PSU for less capacity, cheaper PSU by only going gold and not ultramemeium rated, and less electricity costs over 5-7 years can almost certainly pay for a new PSU by then.

>>103051864
Great processor. I don't like the GPU. Not that that's a bad GPU, I would have paired something more high end with that processor. Can't comment about the price.

>>103051852
yes you did. if your goal is productivity, 9900x and 265k is about the same price but way faster

>>103051868
I want this but udimm, why can I not find this in my country?

>>103052055
can you not just import?

>>103052018
9900x being faster than 7900x is a stretch. I'd just pick the cheaper one. 9900x consumes less power, but that's about it.

>>103052061
The customs duty is going to be between 18% to 100% and I have to pay GST on top of that and shipping. Nein danke.

>>103052018
I know this is bait but I'm not touching modern intel with a 15 foot pole. Stopped caring about them during their 4c/8t coma and the instability on recent chips including what you mentioned makes me want Intel even less

worth upgrading to the 9800x3d from a 5600x? For gaming mostly, and a bit a 3D rendering.

>>103052145
yeah that'll be pretty significant

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>>103051817
single core + multicore with half cores disabled, idk if i should leave them disaled you get higher boost frequency so i think that might be better for general use idk?
>>103052098
what country? here we only have to pay customs/ fees if the price of the parcel is over 130gbp you could do separate smaller orders if you have similar

>>103052183
Bruh, its jeetland and I don't want to deal with the government crooks.

>>103052183
I'm happy with 64gb ddr5-6000 ram for now. ECC would have been sweet, but I have to wait a couple of years before its affordable.

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>future intel gpu will be cancelled if battlemage failed
last chance for intelaviv

>>103051852
>7900x
you likely don't need one, so yes
>7800xt
no, I'd have gotten a 7900GRE but hey

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>>103051849
Bump. All the monitor anons are busy having sex and no time to answer questions.

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MSI has a z890 mobo that has gpu pcie power. does this mean if a 4060 which only have 1 8 pin no longer need to plugged in?

>>103052278
Bruh, all boards have power through pcie slot. How else do you think the peripherals like network card, m.2 expansion cards work?

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why are there only 5600 128GB ram kits?
can I just buy 2 8000 2x32GB ram kits?

>>103052336
Choose between speed or capacity
You can't have both

>>103052323
I know that but msi said nothing about it on thier website. I dont even know if it can deliver enough power to supply the a 4060

>>103052336
>can I just buy 2 8000 2x32GB ram kits?
yes
why do you need 128gb anyway? even 64 is excessive for just about anything

>>103052336
Bruh, getting a single 8000 kit to boot on am5 is a challange, and you want two? If you can get 4 sticks to boot with ddr5-6000 and cl30. Just thank the gods. It can be done, but its difficult.

>>103052236
every GPU that nvidia / amd sells for gamers is $1000+ lost because a server GPU has 200% more margin than a gamer GPU that a AIB takes a decent cut from.
There are not enough server GPU's to satisfy demand.
Thankfully nvidia realized this, and started only giving the best technology for server GPU's, the gaming GPU's are using 4nm (5nm+) instead of 3nm which iphones had for a year.

>>103051634

u wan stuff
u has credits
u acquire stuff

u wan stuff
u has not sufficient credits
u wait next day and look it again

>>103052352
ok then capacity thanks
>>103052412
because I use the volatile memory part of the ram to temp save data that I don't want to leave traces on my PC.
also I work with high res pictures (6000x16000) which need a lot of ram while wokring with them in AP2.

>>103052236
>cpu in shambles
>gpu in shambles
its over...

>>103052499
>bro's editing full resolution cheese pizza
wtf

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>>103052450
>Bruh, getting a single 8000 kit to boot on am5 is a challange, and you want two?
didn't know that.
>>103052519
yes have a peak

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>>103052336
>mfw terahertz ram

>>103052560
MODS

>>103051849

is good
backlight quality garanteed for 30000 hours

>>103051849
>>103052261
>What's wrong with this pick anon? I can't find many reviews of this product.
There seems to be nothing wrong with that monitor, it seems to match an Acer 1440p 240Hz in features (W2bmiiprx). It has no height-adjustable stand though.
That monitor's being sold in limited regions, so tech tubers have less reason to cover it, and they don't review a lot of IPS monitors anymore.

>>103052183
That's not as bad as I'd expected.
Looks actually usable as a daily driver.

>>103052560
SLUUUUUUUUUURRRP

>>103052499
Stop the industrial espionage Chang.

>>103052236
>mlid
When will you retards stop eating up his arc cancellation bullshit

>>103052888
I beilive him this time. Intel is running out of money and battlemage (+ future gpu) looks like it will under perform compared to amd and nvidia. its better to just cut the loss

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>>103051849
>>103052261
What >>103052703 said
https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/04543759
https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/fe8234d7
The VX2758-2K-PRO-3 appears to have FRC added to the base 8-bit panel found in the XV272U W2bmiiprx model for pseudo 10-bit color though.

There's also the Acer VG272U W2 which is another 1440p @ 240Hz IPS of similar spec:
https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/11b335b2
It's also only $220 which seems to be a better deal for a 240Hz panel:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rMXV3C/acer-vg272u-w2-270-2560-x-1440-240-hz-monitor-umhv2aa201

Also consider the ASRock PG27QFT2A which is 1440p @ 180Hz but in typical Asrock fashion is selling at a rock bottom price of ~$148:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/N2cgXL/asrock-pg27qft2a-270-2560-x-1440-180-hz-monitor-pg27qft2a
Reviews for the unit are good:
https://tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/asrock-phantom-gaming-pg27qft2a
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L97Ak-VfqGY

I'm not sure a $100 premium or 69% price jump for the extra 50 Hz is worth it in the current market all things considered.

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>>103051494
>COPE ultra

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@battlemagenigga
it's over.

>>103051494
Selling t-shirts of CPUs they used to make after they fire everyone and have 10 guys left in the company

>>103053060
Fuck, mlid was right all along...

>>103053060
>desktop cpu: dead
>sever cpu: dead
>laptop cpu: dead
>desktop gpu: dead
>sever gpu: dead
>laptop gpu: dead
chapter 7 bankruptcy when?

do you guys think she can make it clap?

>>103053145
intel is still the market leader

>>103052412
Excessive is the just enough of the future and the never enough for Google Chrome.

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>>103053185
>-$16.6B NET PROFIT
-$16.6B NET PROFIT
>-$16.6B NET PROFIT
-$16.6B NET PROFIT
>-$16.6B NET PROFIT
-$16.6B NET PROFIT

>>103053209
now read the rest of the article

>>103053209
They spent 30 bil in Q3?
Did every 13th and 14th gen nigger RMA all at once or what

Asus B550i
I already have 2 m.2 drives but I want to add a third for raid 0.
Can I just add a sata SSD?
Can AMD Raid do raids over NVME and Sata?

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>>103052261
>All the monitor anons are busy having sex and no time to answer questions.
You're so cute and silly!

>>103053246
thats right sex with shamiko

>>103053242
>raid 0.
why

>>103053293
I knew one of you smug assholes would ask this instead of answering the actual question. I already have an entire PC backed up to my external HDD and do it regularly so I don't care if one of the drives fail.
I just want a giant single SSD to show up as a C drive.

>>103053325
>>I just want a giant single SSD to show up as a C drive.
why

>>103053350
because he wants to see all his 4k jav on one big drive

I'm buying a 9600X and you can't stop me.

>>103053417
but why not buy a big nvme ssd

>>103053145
>>103053145
>sever cpu: dead
Not quite yet, the boomer datacenters still buy intel.

so pantherlake will be on lga1851 right? i can't see how it will be on a new socket

>>103053538
lmao

What motherboard (no wi-fi) and RAM for a 9800X3D (the one that's coming out) and RX 7900 XTX for 75% gaming and some small time LLM's on loonix?

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16:10 chads, we are having massive gainz

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le funny chart

>>103053325
> a giant single SSD to show up as a C drive
weird

>>103053828
5800x3d is operating at stock with shit tier ddr4 too.

>>103053636
>What motherboard (no wi-fi) and RAM for a 9800X3D (the one that's coming out) and RX 7900 XTX for 75% gaming and some small time LLM's on loonix?
Mobo and RAM pricing is so volatile that there is no point is making recommendations until after the chip launches.

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right now is the best time to buy parts from amazon
>holiday return policy just started, you can get your parts right now and have until jan 31 to return them
>if part goes on sale for black friday/cyber monday/christmas, you can just ask support to refund the difference because youre still in the return window
>if support is a bitch and refuses, you can just refund then buy the product again

>>103053889
>buying the past year's junk instead of waiting for CES
lol IDIOT

>>103053538
>implying it will be on desktop at all

>>103053636
> RX 7900 XTX
Is this some motorcycle?

>>103053889
also retards returning back perfectly working parts and amazon warehouse discounting them heavily. look out for gpus or psus specifically. this is how you score $500 7900xt or $100 platinum atx 3.0

>>103053828
You go AMD for pure performance and intel for efficiency, no need to repeat the whole argument again

what's gonna happen first, intel starting to make good cpus, or amd starting to make good gpus?

>>103053968
when your hands stop being brown

>>103053828
Anyone running 5800x3d on an ancient 300 series mobo from 2017 must be feeling pretty smug.

I recently repasted my old 1070Ti and while my temps have improved by 10-15C, which is fucking amazing, I'm getting some driver timeout bluescreens in BO6 (yeah yeah, shit zoomer game, I know). Could it be that I've messed up a thermal pad placement and the memory is overheating (I can't check, Pascal doesn't have such sensors) or is it more likely that this new game/driver is shit? The card is rock solid in Furmark and OCCT.

Part of me wants to get the 5090 just so I can have the best and move to 4k, since I now have a well paying job compared to when I made my current build.
Other part of me is saying that's fucking dumb as I'll likely not even use half the power it can dish out and that 1440p or even 1080p is just fine.

>>103054004
who cares
enjoy your life before you die
you will save and save and then get cancer and die before you can enjoy anything anyways
get the 5090
be free

>>103053968
Intel to start making good GPUs.

>>103054004
I hope your well paying job and house insurance are good enough for a new house+belongings after your 5090 burns it down

>>103054004
this is why adults have credit cards. buy now, pay later. theres no interest if you pay off early and have good credit.

>>103053945
>intel for efficiency
what workload is intel more efficient at?

>>103054056
NOOOOOOOOOO USING CARDS FOR STUFFIS BAAAAAAAAD!! EVEN IF YOU PAY IT OFF BEFORE INTEREST ACCRUES!!!!!!!!
NEVERMIND THE FACT THAT A LITTLE "DEBT" ON YOUR CARD INCREASES YOUR CREDIT SCORE ESPECIALLY IF YOU PAY IT ALL OFF

>>103053898
>muh 50 series

>>103054103
27" 4k oleds are coming
27" 4k mini leds are coming
50 series is coming
there has never bene a better time to save

>50 series
MAN I cant wait to pay $1200 for an 80 card with 16gb of vram, its gonna be so cool

I still can't believe they purposefully gimped the 50 series on vram.
Disgusting corp.

>>103054076
>retarded zogmutt already pre-coping being called a retarded zogmutt
amazing how well we've trained you

>>103053430
considering doing this also
>only 65w for all that single core performance
my pc is 10 years old, this is literally a 2x just in single core

>>103054130
>buzzword salad
try speaking actual english

>>103054076
This is what jewish brainwashing looks like.

>>103052703
>>103052926
Danke anons. The Acer model is not sold here. The Acer ones I found were 1440p 180hz and they cost 190bux. That's wild. Asrock is a chad brand, but unfortunately, no Asrock monitors sold here.

>>103054068
https://youtu.be/JHWxAdKK4Xg
Intel is a lot more efficient in productivity tasks and about 5 times more efficient when idling, which is what you will be doing most of the time on your desktop.

>>103054125
novidio will buy it anyway so why shouldn't they?

>>103054147
you know you can just give up performance for efficiency on amd as well right?

>>103054154
novidiofags*

>>103054135
Bruh, just get a 7900x for cheaper.

>>103054023
You're probably right. I'll just say fuck it and go all the way.
Time to retire this 5700xt. I'll miss your occasional black screens.

>>103054130
I pay for 100% of my expenses with credit. I have the money in my checking account, I just want that 1% cash back
>over $500 in cash back rewards every year, just for buying shit that I was already going to buy
this is all paid for by the retards who buy things they can't afford. zoomers are literally giving me money for free.

>>103054189
if your iq is high enough to not get hit with interest it really is just free money and benefits

>>103054125
>njudea
>jewery

What did you expect?

>>103054163
>give up performance for efficiency on amd
How? I don't know about you, but a 7800x3d spending as much power to do a google search as most CPUs need to run cyberpunk doesn't sound very efficient. And that can't be changed no matter how much you adjust your settings.

>>103053927
Yes, Japanese one I think

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>>103054115
>27" 4k oleds are coming
>27" 4k mini leds are coming

>>103054235
dumb anime poster

>>103054172
>170w
bruh I live in florida, I don't need a space heater
>$400
I thought you said it was cheaper, 9600x is only $250
>lower single thread performance
what do you need multi thread performance for anyway

>>103054241
>Anime posters not acting dumb
Not possible. Anyone that has to use exclusively japanese drawings of women to convey their emotions obviously isn't going to be very rational

>>103054056
>>103054076
>being enslaved to your social credit score
couldn't be me

>>103054125
isnt it gddr7? that means it fetches a premium.

>>103054281
good luck ever owning a house without good credit

>>103054281
if you had a choice between credit or debit at the cash register, why would you choose debit?

>>103054230
Undervolting

>>103054249
Bruh, it probably idles at 15w. It's more like 200w, only under load.

>>103054284
good luck living in a third world banana republic

>>103054294
why wouldn't you?
I just got my credit card and I plan to only ever use it when I travel. Why would I want to be in debt to mr shekelstein?

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>>103054230
i'm currently playing a hentai game made in RPG maker, watching twitch and shitposting

>>103054249
Look at 7600x anyways.

You think a chunky AIO will be able to squeeze some extra 200Mhz (over an air cooler) out of the new X3D now that you can actually cool them with the V-cache out of the way?

>>103054321
>have money to buy thing outright
>use credit and get money back or other benefits instead
>keep cash now to use for something else, like an investment, and pay off credit through income
>investment pays off
>end up saving more money than if you had spent it outright

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are these normal temperatures for this 4 year old GPU or is my shit fucked? the hot spot used to never exceed 95 and now it's running upwards of 105

>>103054439
>>keep cash now to use for something else, like an investment, and pay off credit through income

>investment doesn't pay off, lose money
>can't pay credit bill now
no thanks
I'll just keep spending money instead

>>103054453
time for a repaste

>>103054321
>>103054464
>swipe debit card
>get skimmed
>money stolen
>swipe credit card
>get skimmed
>who cares its the banks money they already canceleld and sent me a new card btw

>>103054473
>enter debit card
>get skimmed
>report it
>get a new card within a day & get the money refunded

>someone sees my credit card as I use it
>can buy shit online using it without any pin codes or anything
no thanks
I'll just keep using my debit card mr shekelstein

Asus prime p201 or o11d air mini? It’s going to be put on the floor

>>103054296
It is not going to fix an issue embedded in AMDs chiplet architecture. Undervolting is quite literally not going to do shit here unfortunately, AMD chips need higher passive power draw to just function.
>>103054340
>Ryzen master
AMD unironically hides that extra power draw from you since it's the baseline power the chip needs to be active. It's the reason why so few people know about it. You need to use more specialized tools to accurately measure the power. Tests have been done and all the evidence is out there if you search for it.

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is this benchmark implying that ram has that much of an impact on the cpu?

>>103054608
That's an efficiency chart, and the chart shows that faster RAM degrades efficiency probably due to the elevated SoC voltage needed to run it.

>>103054673
oh ye makes sense.

BATTLEMAGE SHOW YOURSELF

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Why are the new releases so disappointing and just incremental improvements. Don't white people work at these companies no more?

>>103054735
its always been like this retard

>>103054115
>27" 4k oleds are coming
>27" 4k mini leds are coming
24 inch when its the perfect monitor size

>>103054735
>Don't white people work at these companies no more?
Maybe white people had enough.
They have given so much to this world
And got jack shit in return

I understand them taking a back seat.

Let black people build Wakanda.

>>103054608
Hey 7900 that's what I got

>>103054735
The answer is a mix of excessive diversity hires (in intel's case at least) and the fact that we're reaching the actual physical limit for transistor size, if we go any lower we'll start going quantum and insane, so manufacturers are looking for "horizontal" improvements like AI, 3D cache and what else.

>>103055004
what we need is a hyperscalar architecture so we can get rid of the gpu entirely and programmers will be able to focus on linear logic instead of having to juggle 200 threads manually

budget: $6k
country: us
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rT6txH
want to build something that will last a long time. right now have a 3080ti since that's why I have on hand, but might upgrade if the 5000 series is any good.

>>103053994
Wait. Did you removed thermalpads?

>>103054115
I need a 32" 1440p miniled.

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>>103052763
a little faster with windows high performance mode

>>103055199
Save 4k more and get a Threadripper 7995WX

>>103055270
hole lee fuk lol
im tempted but that would be way overkill if anything I do

> AMD Ryzen 9 9666X3D

>>103053889
careful with this /g/oyims, my account got terminated for returning too many parts at once last year

>>103055199
Obviously don't spend $6k on a gaming PC but if you insist I'd say to wait for the 9950X3D because there's some possibility they'll put 3D cache on both CCDs. Better for longevity because you're not relying on continued support for the core parking mechanic.

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You guys really going to spend $2000 on a 5090 when it drops?
>it doesn't do the dishes
>it doesn't cook a nice meal
>it doesn't whisper in your ear 'I love you'
It's a fucking gpu, frenly frens. Don't forget that. What's wrong with 1080/1440p gaming?

You can hate intel for the stagnation years ago but you have to admit they didn't act like a jew and raise the prices even tho they're the king unlike nvidia.

>>103055403
I always get the 60 series gpu, or last gen 70 series if it's on sale

>>103055403
I don't see myself upgrading my 3090Ti like, ever, given njudea seems hell-bent on gatekeeping consumers out of high VRAM cards.

>>103055434
Yeah, I never spend more than $400 on a gpu. I -sometimes- game. My 1660 Ti served me well. I wonder what the 5060 will bring. I hope I am not too disappointed.

Will the 7950X3D return to the old lows after 9800X3D drops, or has AMD started creating artificial scarcity for the multi-CCD X3Ds as well?

Why is my PC practically silent when the room is 68 F but sounds like a hair dryer when the room is 72 F?

>>103055403
My next GPU purchase will be A.I. first, gaming second.

>>103055473
ok jensen

I'm from the third-world. I got a damn AMD desktop kit as a processor (because I'm also dumb). Does anyone know if you have to replace the motherboard AND the CPU at the same time? I only find tech reviews about the suckiness of the hardware and the weirdness of having failed PS5/Xbox chips repurposed as CPUs, and straight up technical documentation.
"The AMD 4700S is soldered to a motherboard the utilizes the A77E fusion controller hub" sounds like a death sentence but I'd like to be sure.

>>103055403
B-but leather jacket man wants to buy another ivory backscratcher... Can we deny Him that?

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Realistically, what's the performance hit between
DDR4 - 3200mhz with 1600mhz infinity fabric
vs
DDR4 - 3000mhz with 1500mhz infinity fabric

I am getting crashes running my sticks at XMP speeds (3200mhz) but 3000mhz seems stable.
Is it worth messing with it anymore or just leave it at 3000 and call it a day?

30/6000 or 32/6400 with a 7700x? they're priced the same atm

>>103055578
not that big, especially not on ryzen 5000
are you running 4 sticks?
>>103055606
6400C32 if you know what you're doing (spending a week tweaking voltages to get the memory controller stable)
6000C30 if you want something that just werks

>>103054076
>NEVERMIND THE FACT THAT A LITTLE "DEBT" ON YOUR CARD INCREASES YOUR CREDIT SCORE ESPECIALLY IF YOU PAY IT ALL OFF
this is a falsehood

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What is preventing gaymes from becoming a proper multi-core workload?

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NO BAILOUT FOR INTEL!
>The talks, which the people described as purely precautionary, show that Intel is seen as too strategically important to be allowed to fall into serious trouble.
>The US is seeking a national champion in the semiconductor space to ensure its own supply chain and as a counterweight to China, where manufacturing for global chips has moved.
>One option is a merger, led by the private sector but possibly encouraged by the government, of Intel’s chip-design business with a rival like AMD or Marvell, the people said.
>There’s little appetite for a 2008-style bailout, in which the government took direct stakes in automakers and banks, because policymakers are worried about losing money given Intel’s continued sales declines.

>policymakers are worried about losing money given Intel’s continued sales declines.
SHORT THE STOCK SALLY!
https://www.semafor.com/article/11/01/2024/concerns-grow-in-washington-over-intel

>>103055519
With such an obscure system the only good way to answer your question would be to open your PC and take a look at it yourself. If it's soldered in it's not going anywhere.

>>103055519
Yeah you'll need a whole new rig if you want to upgrade. With that said the CPU on those things isn't the worst thing in the world so you wouldn't need to upgrade it if you're planning on a low-midrange card.

>>103055711
>Intel-AMD merger
the horror...

>>103055734
>>103055716
Damn, figures. It's not like it's some massive bottleneck (I think), since it came with a RX 550, but I would have liked to skimp on the motherboard. I'll just to change everything.

Would lga 1700 be a good option for budget builds still with the whole 13th/14th gen fiasco going on?
12th gen was the gen you wanted to be at anyway since it offered the best balance with power and efficiency.
And for a budget build starting with a 12100f, you will have a great upgrade path to 12600kf/12700kf for years down the line if you need it, running those two without overclocking them doesn't even require an expensive board.

>>103055685
In some sense they already are. Most recent games can productively utilize >4 threads. What stops them from becoming embarrassingly parallel is that most "game functions" are dependent on previous states - for example one AI can't decide what to do until it knows what the player or other NPCs have done. You can't "naively" split those AIs across cores but you can use a smart compiler and branch prediction to find parallelizations at runtime. Jim Keller talks about this on L*x Fr*dman's podcast.

>>103055797
An RX550 is so old/weak that you could drive it with a 2500K. IMO you could probably upgrade to a 4060-class and be fine so long as you're sensible with settings. Anything higher and I'd be thinking about a new CPU which, unfortunately, does mean a new board.

>>103055797
https://www.reddit.com/r/lowendgaming/comments/1e69328/anyone_with_ryzen_7_4700s_and_rx550/
Found someone else with apparently the same system as you.
But the 4700s is quite competent from what I can see (if the information about it being about equivalent to the 3600 is to be believed). To the point where it's not even close to bottlenecking your gpu. Quite the opposite in fact, the rx 550 is just too weak for that to ever be even close to factor.
You could pair that cpu with something like an rx 6600 (which is about 500% more powerful than the rx550) and it would run great.

>>103055403
yes

>>103055403
i will
and then i will sell my 4090

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>Apple, samsung and qualcom are looking to acquire intel
Intelsis....

>>103055800
Yeah it's very good for budget builds. I will caution your optimism vis. the upgradability though. If you're broke enough to be considering this you're probably not going to be upgrading on a cadence where 12100 -> 12600K will make a difference. In eg. 5 years they'll both be equally obsolete and hopefully you won't be so broke any more.

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>on a ryzen 3 3100
Now I don't game that much. But since a 5700x3d is cheap, is it worth to upgrade?
>8 cores instead of 4
>4,1GHz instead of 3.9
>newer architecture
Will I also notice the difference in general use? Or better drop a 5700x or even 5800x since the price is about the same

>>103055944
If you're just doing web/office you won't see much difference. That sort of stuff is well within the capabilities of 1st gen Ryzen let alone 3rd.

>>103056034
>If you're just doing web/office you won't see much difference.
Hm. Thought so. Think i move to ssd's and maybe a new oled monitor to splurge cash on

>>103055936
That upgrade path isn't too dissimilar to the 3600 to 5700x3d pipeline.
For budget 1080p 60fps gaming, you could run this set up for over half a decade without having to switch motherboards.

>>103055578
Have you tried manually setting the memory voltage?
I've seen some motherboards fail to apply xmp voltage and try to run 3200+ at jedec 1.2v instead of 1.35v or whatever memory wants.

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>>103055922
can they just go under so the x86 patent can fucking expire already?

Do you guys think the release of the 50 series will result in a noticeable price drop for the 40 series?

>>103055922
nobody can buy intel because government will say no or the legal battle will be so long they change their mind. think of when microsoft bought activision, it happened but the process took so long it basically killed all activation/blizzard games in the process with how much staff sitting in limbo.

>>103056125
No

Anyone here who has used one for years and can recommend a 24‘‘ 1080p 144hz IPS monitor for little money? I want it to work for a long time and i just cant trust amazon reviews or these youtube reviews where it feels like half of them are paid by the companies.

>9700x3d is 5% faster but also cost 5% more
I guess we're just following nvidia

>>103056125
No, they've got this well practiced by now. The supply is already drying up, when people are fighting each other over the last 40s and there's blood on the streets, that's when they will release the new models.

>>103054735
>Why are the new releases so disappointing and just incremental improvements. Don't white people work at these companies no more?
Sadly, end consumers are no longer the principle market for PC (you know PERSONAL Computer) hardware. AI, Enterprise/Data Center, and ML are where the margins are so that's who the companies design and build their tech for first these days. It's all businesses selling to other businesses, and what we find cool and interesting is barely an afterthought.

Upgrade from Comet Lake to Zen 5X3D or re-enter hibernation for another gen or two?

>>103056065
For a start, per TPU, the 3600->5700X3D jump is about twice as much as 12100->12600K. Plus the cache has other benefits like to 1% lows and some naturally CPU-bound games seeing massive swings.
More importantly, the AM4 chips were fine options at launch and "synced" to a normal upgrade cadence whereas the 12100 and 12600K are both "budget" options right now. In fact, given the mere $80 price delta, I'd even suggest that most buyers should save up for the i5 and get the full performance from the start. Indeed, if $80 is going to completely blow the budget then whatever PC you're building is probably not something you'd /want/ to upgrade in 5 years' time.
Now, with that said, I'm not shitting on the idea as a whole; just tempering one aspect of it. You could do a lot worse for a cheap gaming rig.

>>103056226
you always win when you JustWait(tm)

>>103056211
I hate nvidia so much damnit.

>>103056234
I'm afraid that the mental threshold will be too high if I wait another 2-4 years worth of component price inflation.
Already my inner jew is screaming in pain at the idea of dropping 500€ on the CPU alone.

>>103056231
I get the logic. I am even getting tempted on getting just a super basic lga 1700 board to run the 12100f and save the money I would have spent on ensuring upgradability within the generation for when I will inevitably jump ship to the next generation like 3-4 years down the line.

>>103056226
zen 5 looks like a solid upgrade from 10th gen to me

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Whoever said hexagons where cool to have as fan mounts need to be shot

am5 released in 2022, they promise support for 2027. It's basically at the end of it's life already and it is barely worth it above am4.

>>103056348
intel-kun...
let it go

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>>103051153
>500 euro
>Ryzen 7 7700 is <€250

are u retarded?
I literally bought CPU + 32GB DDR5 + mini-ITX mobo for €525

>>103056306
Yeah I'm kind of assuming here that you're an apprentice or a student or somesuch i.e. you won't be building $500 PCs forever. That is, once you complete your cursus and get a (real) job, you'll have enough disposable income to where upgrading LGA1700 in-socket just seems pointless.

>>103056408
I want the biggest single thread gaming performance number I can get to run my autism spreadsheet games.
It used to be you could just buy an i5 to get there (or within 5% at least).
Now you apparently need to buy an X3D.

>>103056417
You are more or less right. Will AM4 be any better or worse in that regard? Cause in that case I may go for a slightly cheaper AM4 build and just wait it out until AM6 or something like that.

>>103055905
I will continue to use my 4090 in my vacation home PC, it's still good enough for another year or two.

>>103056448
About the same. They're all "budget" options now. I suppose one advantage of AM4 is the Aliexpress 5700X3D. Up to you if you want to risk it or save another month for a 12600KF.

>>103056448
an am4 x3d build with a good GPU will be competitive in vidya until the next console generation easily

>>103055403
> What's wrong with 1080/1440p gaming?
It's not making proper use of my 32" 4k display.

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how accurate is this x870 tier list?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WagOqmAQ93A&ab_channel=GameTechReviews
im debating between
>ASRock X870 Steel Legend WiFi
>MSI PRO X870-P WIFI

>>103056447
>yfw I spend 600 EUR on a mobo ram and a 7800X3D

>>103056211
I'm glad I didn't waitfag and just got a 4080S new for the price of a 4070TiS. I fully expect NVIDIA to just kill old supply and if the leaks are true the next gen will be both too damn expensive and retardedly inefficient in the energy department.

>X870(E)
You don't need more than X670E
Realistically, you don't even need more than B650

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>>103056535
What do you want X870 for? The USB4? It's a neutered chipset, worse than X670 boards and way overpriced.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0axuzyN_1s
Just get a nice B650 board and flash the BIOS for the 9000 series chips.

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>Ask for build advice on like a discord or whatever
>Lol what do you need all those SSDs for why do you need that many NVMe drives?
>Just get a NAS bro you don't need that much storage lol
I'M A FUCKING PIRATE HOW FUCKING OBVIOUS IS IT YOU ABSOLUTE FUCKING DISCORD FAGGOTS

only have 3 fans. 2 120mm and 1 140mm. How do I go about this? 1 in the back for exhaust and 1 on the top and front for intake?

Why do people want to buy Intel? Its filled with Pajeets, they would have to fire like 90% of the staff like twitter.

>>103056914
Usually two front, one back. CPU heatsink fins tend to be horizontal orientation along with the GPU (unless you vertical mount) so want a fully parallel direction of airflow congruent with it. An intake on top is asking for turbulence.

>>103056651
wtf, I got a mobo, 32gb ram and a 7800x3d for ~$400, what are you guys doing over there?

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grim 9950X3D needed ASAP

>>103056900
how much do you pirate bro, jesus
real talk though, NAS/seedbox is the play

>>103056900
If you're a pirate you shoulda been on a NAS ages ago

Are Mini-LED monitors worth it now? There's AOC and Acer options that are $200-$300 for a 1440p 27"

>>103057144
Id prob wait for the cooler master upcoming ones with more zones
and if thats like >400€ you might want to look at oleds instead since they are starting to creep into the 600€ zone

is it ok if i put a nendriod on a 4080?

>>103056988
4k is a meme resolution for gaming.

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>>103057144
Through Monday you can get a 1440p 27" OLED for $450:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CMSVLJW2
I'd say the difference between LCD & OLED is worth a $150-250 splurge if you are able. It certainly beats the snot out of Mini-LED as far as HDR is concerned.

>>103055944
whilst on paper and from the recommendations from internet people it does not seem like munch improvement, I noticed an incredibly snappier system when I went from a 3700x to a 5900x for simple web browsing
an x3d might be overkill, I would go with a simple 5700x as it will be the cheapest option

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Are USB wifi cards usable at all or do i need a new mobo?

>>103056941
makes sense. thanks

>>103057360
What about pcie networks cards.

>>103057405
i want to buy an m2 drive and get an adapter for pcie

>>103057144
miniled is just lcd with dimming zones

>>103057360
It's just works these days but don't be surprise that it will croak soon due to overheating or simply collision.

are announcing any new AM5 mobos anytime soon? need a decent matx option

>>103051118
I would let Lisa Su peg me if she stayed with me for a weekend in bed.

Saturday would just be fucking constantly with cuddles in between. Not even leaving the bed except for piss breaks. Breakfast wouldn't begin until 9pm, and we'd both lose 5lbs from fucking and starving together. She'd continue looking better and better in her black latex and shoelace outfit.

Sunday morning we'd leave bed and go outside in oversized winter jackets and boots. She'd hand me a cigarette and light both of ours like in a film, and I have never even smoked before, but rolling with the theme of a dizzying couple of days of degeneracy, I'd feel obligated.

Come Sunday evening, we'd both be just about over it, and anticipating the big Monday to come, meetings with PMs, TSMC engineers, press conferences.

Finally, when I'm nodding off at 8pm from hunger and lethargy from the cigarettes and empty balls, she'd dress, pack up, and leave when I thought she was just out of bed using the washroom.

I'd wake up Monday morning, the curtain allowing an inch of sunlight to cast on the foot of my bed. Bird and children shouting outside. Quiet stillness indoors.

My weekend with Lisa Su would never happen again because she's just one of those girls

>>103056988
>WHAT DO U MEAN THE BAD PORT RUNS LIKE ASS

>>103057498
recommendations?
or maybe cheap am4 mobos? i have 5000 series and i cant really update bios
i could probably sell my current one

when the 5090 is thrice as powerful as the top AMD card how will AMD sisters cope?

>>103057565
or how about SATA->M2

Is the AOC 27" Q27G4X worth picking up for 253 bux? It's currently on sale.

>>103057714
prob overpriced in usa relative to the aoc miniled va

>>103057723
In Sweden the lowest price for the Q27G3XMN I can find is about 406 bux. Worth it to pay the extra for 2K non competitive gaming you think?

>>103057614
By using Linux knowing that the games I play don't need more. I'll wait and be patient. Its not like my 7900GRE is going to magically stop working with my games.

>>103057766
nah, its overpriced in eu
meanwhile you can get oleds around 600€ so...

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Been playing Cities Skylines II recently and the bigger my city gets the more CPU it eats. It's almost unplayable now. Should've gotten an i9 CPU.

>>103057830
Well time to buy a 9950x3d

>>103057830
framegen is magic for cpu bound titles. afmf2 is the killer app nvidia is missing.

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>>103057830
play the better game instead

>>103057830
lol damn
i find any CPU benchmarks for this game
>>103057842
if you don't have eyes

>>103057871
warhammer 3 did a experiment where they toggled framegen for some users without telling them and they thought it was just free fps.

>>103057903
i don't care what normalfags think or how they perceive the world
you know how many people keep that horrible frame interpolation setting enabled on their TVs? same thing

>>103057909
tv interpolation is not even the same tech has motion vector processing in a video game.

>>103057830
About time to Ryze! And get more RAM so you can add some mods.

>>103057915
there is no "motion vector processing" with AFMF2
it's the same shit, i don't care, shut up
if you want better performance overclock your hardware or make more money

>>103057842
>>103057915
afmf2 is actually derived from the original video frame doubler they had, thats why it can work in anything without needing the special hooks that FSR3/DLSS3 use

it's pretty much artifact free though, unless you dip well below 30fps, which is pretty impressive
sometimes simple is better

best, most reliable ~$100 2tb ssd in both nvme and 2.5 sata for my lappy? normally go scamsung but they're waaay too proud of their products at the moment, and I'm not paying 180 fuckin dollars for a 2.5 sata ssd released going on 4 years ago.

>>103055199
9950x
Taichi lite, tachyon, god like or cross hair boards.
Get 2x48 ddr5-6000 or even ddr5-8000
Get gen5 SSD
Get 2 Samsung qd-oled high refresh rate monitor

>>103055685
Retarded devs with less than 100 iq. Some games do take advantage of it.

>>103055685
consoles with 8 cores

>>103057946
Go crucial/micron. For 2.5", mx500. For nvme, WD black sn850x if it can take gen4x4, else get crucial p3 plus.

Anyone here who has used one for years and can recommend a 24‘‘ 1080p 144hz IPS monitor for little money? I want it to work for a long time and i just cant trust amazon reviews or these youtube reviews where it feels like half of them are paid by the companies

>>103057956
> Taichi lite
Unfortunately sucks. What made ASrock think it would be a good idea to leave out the really helpful QoL feature EZ Release on this premium board? Get the Nova instead or if you need the 2nd GPU slot get the Taichi.

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>>103053990
B450 from mid 2018

>>103058051
Get a riser anon. Split x16 to 2x x8.

>>103056535
If you got the 300 for a Tomahawk, you are just lousy 50 away from the Nova which is MUCH more value for just little more. 300 is just not justified for the Tomahawk, it should be 250 at max, rather 200.

>>103056535
Nova, taichi lite.

>>103056535
>ASRock X870 Steel Legend WiFi
No post code LED no deal

> MSI PRO X870-P WIFI
No post code LED no deal

>>103057993
i had an m4 waaaaaaay back in the day in 2012 and it ended up dying in just months so ive sworn off crucial since then. i hope theyve improved since then?

>>103057714
For 250bux, check out viewsonic VX2758A-2K-PRO-3 or anons's recs:
>>103052926

>>103058155
Check this out: mx500 is pretty good.
https://ssd.borecraft.com/SSD_Buying_Guide.pdf

Is a 280mm aio enough to cool a 7800x3d? Would it run loud, assuming the fans aren’t shit and the pump isn’t loud?

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>>103058017
Breh, tech is like women, you don't want the old ones. The newer ones might be a good deal.

>>103058196
Its more than enough. Go Arctic lf3 if you are concerned.

i5-12600KF + 7600 for 1440p 144hz? AMD has Fluid Motion Frames 2 now and i don´t play competitive games

>>103058196
It's not an Intel world anymore bro.

>>103058261
not for modern AAA games like alan wake 2 that push graphix

>>103058261
Are you buying that pos new? Tell me you are joking.

>>103058279
what about a 10 month used 6800

>>103058261
good enough for poor people

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>>103058318
its more or less fine for modern games using upscaling
a used 3080, or 4070 would be better

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new bread?

>>103058329
ill bake an anime bread for you

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>>103058336
please & thank you

>>103058322
i live on the end of the world with shitty prices

>>103058355
>>103058355
>>103058355

>>103055403
>it doesn't do the dishes
>it doesn't cook a nice meal
>it doesn't whisper in your ear 'I love you'
You can't legally buy a wife for 2k anyway.

>>103058196
If your case allows a 360 AIO it would be better. Smaller 120mm fans produce higher air pressure than larger 140mm fans which is more effective with thick radiators. If your case allows only 280 you still get enough cooling just a little less and prolly more noise.

>>103058558
>If your case allows only 280 you still get enough cooling just a little less and prolly more noise.
what? i always heard it was the opposite, a 280mm cools quiet than a 360mm because the fans are bigger, is the static pressure difference between 120 and 140 really that drastic?

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>>103058070
Nice. Going from like 2600(x) to 5800x3d must have felt like really taking the brakes off.