>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use cases.State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC>CPUWeb browsing: 12100Gaming: 12400F, 7600, 7800X3DWorkstation: 265K, 9900X, 9950XAVOID: Intel 13/14 series>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge/Arctic Liquid Freezer III, Hyte THICC Q60Double towers: ID-Cooling FROZN A620 PRO SE, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67>MOTHERBOARDASRock B650M-HDV/M2, B650 LiveMixer, B650 Steel Legend, cheap X870>RAMDDR4: 2x16GB 3200CL16. Budget, 2x8GBDDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30Workstation/high end: consider 2x48GB>SSD (OS drive)Budget: SN580Mid range: NM790Premium: Samsung 990 Pro (Windows only), SN850XFlagship: Sabrent Rocket 5>GPU1080p: RTX 4070 Super, RX 7700 XT1440p: RTX 4070 Ti Super, RX 7900 GRE2160p: RTX 4090, RTX 4080 Super, RX 7900 XTXWorkstation: RTX 4000 Series>CASE (from $ to $$$)mATX: Montech Air 100, Lian Li A3, Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li O11 Air MiniATX: Phanteks XT PRO(ULTRA), Montech AIR 903 Base/MAX, Antec C5, Lian Li Lancool 216/IIIAVOID: 'Silent' cases, fanless cases>PSUBudget: Gold rated 500-600W PSUMid range: ATX 3.0 compliant fully modular gold rated PSU @ 75% max loadHigh end: Seasonic PRIME TXAVOID: GAMEMAXPSU buying guide:https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/ (updated Q3 2024)>MONITOR1080p: KOORUI 24E3, MSI G2412F, MSI MAG 256F, MSI G244PF E21440p: ASRock PG27QFT2A, Dell G2724D4K: Acer Nitro XV275K, Gigabyte M32U, Dell Alienware AW3225QF>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansHigh end: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)Previous: >>103051118
First for Chad flower pc.
If you want half and hour of butcheryhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7avqBfzRpkg
>>103058336>miku>anime
>>103058355Modern cases look so soulless. I'm never getting a fish tank.
>>103058382I got a qube 500. Check out fractal north too. There are lots of cases with sovl.
>>103058382let me guess, this is considered "soulful" according to you
>>103058376So does he wear the suit so people can't confirm he's a paki. Either way it doesn't surprise me at all that a streamer can't build their own PC.
>>103058382The pop air series is pure SOVL, even has a 5" bay
>>103058198I would definitely prefer an older model that one or more anons have used for several years without any problems and they recommend over a brand new model which i have no clue about and if its got any probelms or not.
>>103058382can't show your anime figure if it ain't fishtank
bros what is the best mouse for wrist pain? I can't game as hard as I can anymore...
Oh shit your computer just F-F-F-F-F-F-F-ROZE!whos to blame this time?the overclocked cpu?the overclocked ram?the overclocked gpu?the nvme drive?the bios?windows?
>>103058429amd driver
>>103058429mossad
What’s the smallest case that can fit a 420mm radiator?
>>103058429Didn't realize you can't just connect to your GPU on a 285k and first need to either disable the igpu or connect monitor to motherboard, then you have to install drivers to finally be able to use your GPU.
>>103058324744.96 USD for a rtx 4070 super500 usd for a used RTX 3080i don´t have the option to test the used RTX 3080 any other option?
>>103058421this
>>103058443cool it with the antisemitic remarks.
>>1030584664070 draws less power for basically same performance
arrowlake igpu is pretty good
>>103058487literally planing black ops 6 on it as we speakartifacting like a mofo>gpu wont be here for about a week
>>103058487>>103058539yeah thats pretty much the intel gpu experience. on paper it gets decent avg fps. in reality its full of those infamous amd driver problems people keep yapping about but its for intel.
>>103058427Armrest. I have a cabinet to my right that I lean on, with a soft thing to cushion it. Turns out it's a good way to avoid any sort of wrist problems.
>>103058548yeah for it not even being a "real" apu, im fine with it, but if it was a dedicated card i would be pissed
I am so glad that the best aio on the market (liquid freezer iii) is just performance and doesn't have the price bloated with gimmicks like a screen or rgb or some other shit
>>103058397No, this is
>>103058487pretty good for an igpu, the 890M is hanging out with the 1060 but thats in the best APU AMD has.its roughly equivalent to the 680M from Rembrandt APUs from two years ago.https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-680m.c3871AMD should put 4CUs of RDNA 3.5 in the IOD for Zen6. they should also do a IOD refresh for Zen5+ and stick it in there...
>>103058591I wish they would invest more money in making them quiet.
Oh how I yearn for the day that AMD is better than nvida again, so i can start back buying Sapphire Tech GPUs
>>10305848714900k igpu loses to 2cu of rdna2? wut
Will I be better off with the Ryzen 4500 or the 12100f? I am not planning on upgrading with either anytime soon and will be initially pairing it with a rx6600.I know 4500 is supposed to be a bit weaker, but it's also six core, so I was wondering whether it would serve me better for the coming years. And trying to compare those two is pretty weird since most CPU benchmark sites have the 4500 being surprisingly ahead when it should be weaker from everything else I have seen. Only userbenchmarks has it ahead, but then again that shouldn't be surprising.
>>103058448>PC building>small caseDoesn't exist, you have to /diy/ one.
>>103058647>Oh how I yearn for the day that AMD is better than nvida againHD 7700? When was the last time AMD mogged?
I just bought a 4080 super but my 750W PSU only has 2 8pin slots. Can I get away with a 12pin to 2 8pins or should I just get a new PSU?From what I've read my PSU should be able to handle the load.
>>103058466>any other option?wait for 50xx gpus in few months maybe the old gen prices go down
>>103058677four years ago6900 XT
>>103058677the last "good' AMD card that I bought new was the rx580. even then it wasnt the most powerful, but it was reasonably priced.Just picked up a 6600xt to use until the 5090 comes out
>>103058429it's always the game's fault
>>103058429over overclocked CPU. bad ram OC will just not boot lol
>>103058715>82 nshow did intel get away with this>>103058720>bad ram OC will just not boot loloh you have no ideai've had RAM OCs that get a single error after an hour
>>103058429https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxoYGstrlOM
>>103058728meh, the latency will be ironed out on the next iteration
>>103058747shouldn't have bought the current iteration then
>>103058429It's mostly the hardware nowadays or driversI've had exceedingly good luck with not crashing in games after giving up the idea of XMPNot entirely convinced it's 100% stable over the long term
>>103058753my current set up requires the board capabilities that z890 has. i can sacrifice a few fps for them at 4k and 1440p the diference is within 7 fps of the 7800x3d so it it gudnuff
>>103058686You might be fine with connecting just two 8 pins. IDK what 12 pin to 8 pin is. Checkout molex to 8 pin as well.
>>103058759>giving up the idea of XMPAre you a shintel user?
>>103058824not that anon.. but you do know it was XMP for both intel and AMD until like 2022 .. you arent that new right?
Just boughted VIEWSONIC VX2758A-2K-PRO-3. Thank you monitor anons, you are the best.
>>103058759>Not entirely convinced it's 100% stable over the long termthere's no need to convince yourself of anything when you can run an 8 hour memtest overnight and get some hard datayou can even do 24 hours if you're really paranoid and have the time, but the only reason you would pass 8 hours but fail 24 hours is temperature, literally the ambient temperature changing during the day
>>103058834That's why I asked, else I would've assumed he was a shintel user. Anyways. I'm that new. I've been in /pcbg/ for a month or two.
>>103058861It's not about now but over time, I keep hardware for an exceedingly long time, even if not in my main PC. Still have DDR3 in my router and arcade cabinet.No need to accelerate the ageing process with more voltage and I don't desire surprises, it's actually been eye opening working in a DC and seeing just how delicate DDR4 and DDR5 is.Maybe it's irrational but IDC
>>103058355The fans on the top are centrally lit, and the side is a ring, and what's with the psu cables, they look bad.
>>103058951i think i would rather replace my RAM every 5 years than disable XMPRAM doesn't appreciably degrade at XMP voltages
>>103058709Navi 21 is so good except it's crippled by Windows. RADV+Valve saves the day.
If you are on a budget, going for AM5 now that prices for the platform are still high doesn't make much sense.On a budget you won't need the extra initial power so your money is totally wasted, and when you inevitably upgrade years down the line when the pieces for AM5 are lower, you can use the 100+ dollars you saved in the first place by going AM4 to go with a much better am5 board that you could have gotten years prior.And by then ddr5 prices would have also dropped. AM4 basically pays for itself if you are planning on gaming on normal 1080p 60fps. And upgradability isn't even an issue since even if you have to upgrade your mobo, it's only using the money you saved by going AM4 instead initially.If you are building a high end system though, obviously you are going to go AM5.
Are gpu warranties something to pay attention to? I noticed PNY only offers 1 year while the big guys offer 3 years.
>>103059022chance is small something goes wrong after the first year, but if it happens better have warranty than not
>>1030586775700XT if you got it for $400 right after it came out, it was better than 2070S for $500+, used it for 4 years became my favorite GPU, zero issues6800XT was beter than nvidia offerings7800XT is better than nvidia7900XT right now for $650it's all about the price/perf at certain times
Am4 Ryzen 4500 or lga 1700 i3 12100f?
>>103059117neither, the 12400F and 5600 are barely more and way better.
>>103058355think that computer has enough fans in it?
>>103059145For my 6600 it won't matter, and the actual performance between the 12400f and the 12100f doesn't seem to be significant at all from what I seen.
>>103058677rx580
>>103058355>spends money on overpriced white parts for the look>cable managment of gpu/mobo looks like looks like abolute dogshitevery fucking time.Dunno if this triggers me so much because I'm a low wage electrician IRL but holy shit.
guy that bought a 13600k here. Are these voltages fine during gaming? The microcode update should have fixed everything right?
Will I be able to reduce the power limit of my CPU on a h619m mobo? To be clear I am not looking to overclock, but the opposite, to reduce power consumption.
>>103059248*h610m
>>103059228if that triggers you anon, I don't think you'd want to see what all of our rigs look like
>>103059231trust the scienceintel has fixed everything
just ordered a 14900k and a used g6900 (just in case I need to diagnose a degradation problem for that beefed up 5 year warranty intel is giving these raptor lake chips now). Oh yeah and an H9 Flow and 10 black noctua fans because fuck you and some overpriced 360 aio with an almost 3" IPS screen on it so that I can display pics of my anime waifu on it (she's the cutest girl in existence I will get butterflies every time I look in the case).Roast me. Tell me how I should have gotten a 9950x or just WAITFAGGED til CES.
>>103058728Seems like just yesterday I was getting sub-30 ns on my 9900k. It's over.
>>103058677The last time amd held the performance crown was probably the HD 6000 series. Absolutely ancient history. Unfortunately nobody bought it. That's when amd gave up trying and strove for mediocrity ever since.
>>103059369There's no such thing. Just set your RAM timings properly and set your voltages rdc, vdd and vdd2, there's no golden rule. You just have to fine tune the settings in BIOS.
>>103059369you reap what you sow desudont come crying to us when you start regretting it in summer because the cpu uses 250W in moderate loads
>>103059424Yep yep can't wait to spend several days or weeks tuning voltages down and tightening ram timings and testing stability just so that i can open Firefox and jerk off to loli porn on atfbooru
>>103058429My retarded experiments with swap file size and location.But also yes, windows.Did you know that disabling swap entirely makes certain programs go crazy with ram use?Did you know that manually setting swap bigger than ram somehow makes certain other programs very confused about file handles, io and caching?Did you know that windows can't properly resolve lack of either free ram or ports (that means not just network connections but also local sockets and file io) and just starts randomly killing user-interactive applications hoping to hit the culprit sooner rather than later?
>>103059495Yes I've turned off pagefile before because I figured with 128gb of ram I'd be okay but it was a bizarre experience even with only light usage. Windows memory management is strange. In some ways it's a lot better than the old days (compression is brilliant) but in other ways I feel they had it more figured out in windows xp
>>103058715Those latency numbers are grim, even L3 is dogshit.
$600 mac mini is friggin great! What the fuck did applel do? Why are they this good?
>>103058747This IS the next iteration, Meteor Lake was the original one, but the perf was too embarrassing for desktop so they refreshed Raptor Lake instead.
>one front USB port doesn't work at all>other is unreliable but will hold a hub>try plugging something into back USB port>my PC completely loses internet functionality>comes back the second i unplug it>did not touch anything elsewat
>>103059552Amd still haven't figured out how to make shitlets not bad they only managed to salvage multi chip dog shit design with 3d cache and by having their only competition be a stagnant DEI-ridden clown bus
>>103059558well if you wanted help you certainly didn't include enough details
>>103059558USB hub issue?
>>103058715Holy shit 17.9ns?? Amd's 96mb of L3 only has an access latency of 12ns at worst
>>103059571I'm more confused than in need to help.>>103059572It might be? The port it was plugged into certainly still works even with something else plugged in.
>>103058715>>103059595>4.4ns>17.9nsLooks like there is no fixing errorlake
>>103059568>AMD gets 55ns memory latency with chiplets>intel gets 85ns memory latency with chiplets>this is AMD's fault
>>103059595It's a ring bus with 20 cores on it. The tech was originally designed by white men to be the spiritual successor to crossbar that was better in every way for quad cores. White men also invented mesh but niggers couldn't figure out how to make it work good so they just kept raping ring bus until it was a corpse then continued fucking it as it rotted starting from 10th gen.
>>103059614really wish they would have released zen 4 on AM4get some low latency DDR4 on there running at 4400 1:1
>>103059619IF bandwidth is absolute dogwater too as is memory support
>>103059631>IF bandwidth is absolute dogwaterobjectively true but bandwidth doesn't matter on desktopslatency > everything>as is memory supportDDR5-8000 is easy on AM5it's a first gen memory controller, like alder/raptor lake
Will the 7950X3D ever go back below $500 again?
>>103059640Yeah and comet lake was a first generation ddr4 controller on a 5th generation ddr4 processor and it still absolutely mogged its predecessors idk who are the niggers here maybe glofo maybe ddr5 manufacturers maybe the cpu manufacturers or even the board partners who fucken knows all I know is ddr4 is king
>>103059643only when the 9950x3d launches and consoomers begin selling off their "old" cpus
>>103059654>ddr4 is kingi can certainly agree with that
>>103059628Don't each cluster of e-cores share a ring stop? That means the 265k only has 12 ring stops in total down from the 14+ on raptorlake which were connected directly to the SA and IGPU
>>103059571You do realise that if anons could give precise details about their problem, they most likely wouldn't have a problem in the first place, right? Or are you really that retarded?
>>103059640>DDR5-8000 is easy on AM5as long as you don't have a shitty motherboard
>>103059692yeah but that's true for all sockets and processorsthe processor isn't the limiting factor
>>103059692Still I wouldn't claim it to be easy.
>>103059700it's one click on those new X870 boardson B650/X670 6000C30 is still the sanest option as always
>>103059707I bought x870 board. would have loved 8000, but got 6000 with cl30.
>>103059721mehthe difference is extremely small even when tunedthe memory controller goes slower after around 6200-6400 which offsets some of the gain from the higher memory speed
>>103059726Buildzoid explained how 8000 with 2:1 was so much faster and consumed less power. 8000 is sweet desu.
>>103059738>was so much fasterhe never said thatdoes allow for some power savings though, for sure
>>103059741If 8000 doesn't work. I'll try 6400 or 6200 in 1:1 mode. I'm excited about my new PC anon.
>>103059287>He doesn't do meticulous cable management for his daily driverWhy not?
>>103059757godspeed anononce you're done go to factoriobox.1au.us and set some scores (lol i shill this website so much but i think it's fun, i have undiagnosed autism)
>>103059738he said it was faster, just not as easy as setting it to 6000 cl30 and forgetting it and lamented the fact there's no 6200 CL28 kits.
Is it possible to tell real SSDs apart from chink fakes from packaging and serial numbers alone? Found picrel for cheap in a local ad, guy claims to have a dozen or so.
>>103059790its obviously fake...
>>103059795Elaborate>if it's too good to be true yadda yaddaNot an argument, lots of stolen goods being moved around in my country.
>>103059765My computer is a tool, not an instagram model.
>>103059813A tool is meant to be respected.
>>103059643Maybe try the used market. 7800x3d seems to be going out of production, so 7950x3d/7900x3d probs are too.
>>103059787>i have undiagnosed autismWe all do anon. Thanks for the benchmark suggestion. I think we should have a benchmark list in the OP. Also, its an ick to curl and run .sh scripts.
>>1030597418000 stick are expensive, and you need to win motherboard lottery too
>>103059863Motherboard lottery.
>>103059811you're right, go nuts. go ahead and post the results.
>>103059851>I think we should have a benchmark list in the OPwould be cool but i don't know what benchmarks would be relevanti like factoriobox because it's a real world workload, i couldn't care less about shit like geekbench>Also, its an ick to curl and run .sh scriptsthe script is pretty shortbtw if you're on linux you can use the headless version of the game, so no need to buy it if you don't own ithttps://factorio.com/get-download/stable/headless/linux64
>>103059927Yes, I'm a loonix user and headless version is awesome, thanks anon. Geekbench might still useful to compare with the same hardware, you can see if something is fundamentally wrong with your build like a bad cooler or not having expo enabled, etc.I want something like what buildzoid uses to see if his build is stable.
>finish my build, time to try out a game>screen goes black, nvidia-nvtopps-filter errorIs it unironically over for this 4080s? Everything I could find online ultimately points to a hardware issue.
>>103060110it's over, billions must buy AMD
>>103060110If you're getting plausible hardware errors on a new card and basic troubleshooting doesn't fix it then yeah open a ticket.
>>103060110should have bought a 7900XTX
should i bother with 480hz monitors or should i wait until 960hz (the theoretica maximum you can perceive) become standard?
>>103060385Do it goy, and when 960Hz come out do it again.
>>103060110get drivers, check the power and pcie connection. If its all good, then get the card replaced. Try a different motherboard slot as well.
>>103058429amd driver >atidiagssys.dll or some shithad a headache with the 280x for so many years with random bsodsor it could be the core at fault
>>103060385what are you gonna play at 480fps even
>>103060630i dont really game desu, i just like high refresh rate desktops
>>103060630>>103060385This anon is smart. But only other use is buttery smooth scrolling and mouse movement.
>>103060385Honestly pull the gun now. The major limiting factor isn't even the blackplane driver of modern panels but the languishing display standards that are choked for bandwidth.https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/when-is-displayport-2-1-going-to-be-used-on-monitorsThe RTX 5000 series when it launches next year will be the first GPUs with full DisplayPort 2.1a UHBR20 support despite the superset standard being finalized way back in October 2022 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DisplayPortUsing the full ~80 Gbps of available throughput you can scrape by with 960Hz @ 10-bit. but only with 1080p:https://www.kramerav.com/bandwidth-calculator/1440p@960Hz = 127 Gbps4K@960Hz = 287 GbpsMeanwhile HDMI 2.1 is only 48Gpbs and HDMI 2.1b only came out in 2023 with no new bandwidth version in sight.It's going to be the 2030s I fear before we have the connection not bottlenecked enough for modern resolutions and that's assuming <4K resolutions don't appear to cannibalize the bandwidth budget on more pixels. DSC is cope.With OLED + BFI we might get true sub-1ms MPRT somewhere in the 600Hz range or so which is more feasible than the 1Khz required for LCDs even with Nvidia Pulsar strobing.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgnYCo29-Zk
280mm or 360mm aio?
>>103060656Me too, I just bought a 240hz display lol.
>>103060722am5 or shintel?
>>103060764am5
>>103060764Obviously am5. Intel had some efficiency arguments before but now they are all gone with meteor lake.As far as building a high end PC goes, there is basically no reason to go with Intel anymore.
>>103060722>280mm or 360mm aio?Whichever is cheaper at the moment when you want to pull the trigger if you have room for both. Testing the Rad Size Scaling from the same lineup of AIOs show diminishing returns with both those sizes being basically within the margin of error of each other. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkqlXsKmn6Ihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDB3ZBHh5Rk
At this rate Intel's GPUs are going to become more popular than their cpus
Sell me on the 4070 Super/RX 7800 XT. I'm sticking with 1080p. May or may not upgrade current CPU to a 5700x3d.
>>103060808Even air coolers are fine. I'm running 7900x with ag620. More cooling is better, 280mm is fine as well, so it's upto you.
>>103058355> PSUBudget: beQuiet!Mid range: beQuiet!High end: beQuiet!AVOID: !beQuiet!
>>103060829Amd gpu did save them during bulldozer day
>>103060836pay me and i'll think about it
why is intel's naming scheme for sockets so fucking terribleyea, its based on the number of pins, but theres a million sockets and they all have random clusters of numbers
>>103060888all naming schemes are atrocious because they are made by marketing with the goal of confusing the biggest number of people so they unwillingly buy something they don't need (and is more expensive). look at fucking monitor names. a single letter may mean the monitor has a completely different panel, resolution, size.
>>103060888Ryzen isn't any better really
>>103059863And no 2x48GB kits. More RAM is better than less RAM.
>>103060965>am5 comes after am4whoa!
>>103059738> so much fasterOnly homoeopathically faster.
>>103060989Haha gotem. Take that buildzoid.
>>103060836>I'm sticking with 1080pDon't bother with a 4070 super then, that's for 1440p
>>103060836>I'm sticking with 1080pbruh
>>103058355building a pc in 2024 is so expensive
>>103058355>High end: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)why are these recommended for case fans? arent they optimized for static pressure? dont those suck at moving a lot of air?
>>103061082Wait for the Black Friday deals, you can probably snag one for only £79,999 then.
>>103061045>that's for 1440pfor like 2 years until its too weak for that too
>>103061045>>103061053I'm kidding. I'm looking into playing 1440@144hz since I've been stuck with 1080@60hz because of this monitor doesn't have DP/HDMI 1.4. Amazon gave me the wrong model and I've been fucked for a long time with this piece of shit Benq XL2411. Currently looking at the G2724D or something.
>>103060967No good 2 slot Ram motherboard, what the point making 4 slot if you wont use it
>>103061162b650M HDV?
>>103061179if that motherboard got reset button it would be serviceable
Goys I got a cool monitor, but now I can only do either 165Hz/8bit or 100Hz/10bit. What should I do? Is the extra 2 bits worth the less 65 refresh?
I have a NVMe drive connected via a chink PCIe card (all 3 motherboard already used), it works fine but ever since I installed it I get random system freezes every few days or so, could it be the card?
>>103061242does it have VRR? if so go with 100the human eye can't see more than 90hz anyway
>>103061270Yes. You don't want any wonkyness to your PCIe lanes.
>>103061272If I can find the difference between 90hz display and 240hz display every time reliably, then am I not human?
>>103061242What model? It's most likely only 8-bit + FRC (aka fake 10-bit), I'd say stick to 165Hz mode for everything except photo editing or HD/4K video.
>>103061290you probably are using other cues like response time/motion smearing
does it worth to turn fake 10bit on ?
>PCPartPicker is temporarily down for maintenance. We'll be back up shortly.WHAT
>>103061341they don't want you t
>>103061369a-anon... are you okay? are you still there?!!!
I've been looking at breakdowns and analysis of a bunch of monitors, mostly IPS but there's that one VN MiniLED from AOC which after a lot of research seems to be a piece of shit in disguise, and it feels like every reviewer is fucking lyingwhat's an actually decent monitor for under $500, 1440p?I'm looking at the Gigabyte M27Q X right now
>>103061133Not even the 4080 super is enough for 1440p@144, I'd get a 4070ti Super as a close second, but there's nothing wrong with 1080p gaming with a 4070 Super, just get a higher refresh rate monitor.
if you ask me we've entered kali yuga, the age of decline again. May as well build now, your rig will stay at least mid-range tier until 2030 based on what we know about upcoming intel products.the parallels are great>zen 3Nehalem. Wow it's nice kinda expensive thoug>zen 4Sandy Bridge. Damn this is just great.>zen 5Ivy Bridge. Kinda meh, just a small iteration it's more efficient and stuff i guess. They no longer have to try because their competition is hopelessly behind by this point.>Alder LakePhenom. Decent but serious people just go Ryzen>Raptor LakePhenom II. Decent performance but draws more power than the competition. Worth buying at a low enough price.>Arrow LakeBulldozer. Regressional performance, still hotter than the competition; horror show sandwiched together architecture that's almost as ugly as Zambezi. (still more efficient than their previous chips fwiw. TSMC is the only thing breaking this pattern.)Gaming? buy a 7800x3d or 9800x3d and enjoy owning the next 2500k/3570k. Both? Hey the 7950x3d/9950x3d are your i7 option for work & play. Poor? 13600k is a find chip, it's a Phenom II X4 965. Cheap, so are the motherboards. Want to do both and also poor? Well more price cuts are surely coming for the 13/14900k there's your Phenom II X6 1045/1100T housefire that is kind of neat cause it has so many cores...
waiting on ssd deals
>>103061451The scriptwriters should be fired.
>>103061451>buy a 7800x3d or 9800x3dhardone costs $700 and the other costs $99,999
>>103061396If your budget is $500 or so then just sidestep all of the flaws with LCDs and get this 1440p@240Hz OLED for $450:https://www.amazon.com/INNOCN-Monitor-Connectivity-Speakers-Adjustable/dp/B0CMSVLJW2?th=1Or if you'd like a nice clear glossy finish and better colors Amazon has a resale for a QD-OLED model here for $525 (you can return it just like it was new if there's something wrong with it or just don't like it):https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D68C1BVS>No backlight bleed>No IPS Glow>No MiniLED blooming>No VA Smearing>No color/contrast shift from poor viewing angles>Perfect response times regardless of refresh rate>Perfect Contrast As long as you let modern OLEDs perform their preprogrammed Compensation Cycles, the risk of burn-in is also overwrought.I say often and I'll say again now, if you've got OLED money just get an OLED.
>>103061451>kali yugaWe can only watch.
>activating XMP makes system boot into safe mode>connecting the USB3 header doesn't go past postPretty much it's safe to say my mobo is cooked right?
>>103061472Now intel has to spend years getting this novel design trash fire to be decent while amd just coast and backstroke. If they bring back Keller we will truly have gone full circle.
>>103061396The Xiaomi G27i is good
Ram "lifetime warranty" how this even work ?
>>103061624You get to rma if it stops working. Duh!
>>103061563When did these problems start? Tried to CLR CMOS and update BIOS? Have you run MemTest on your RAM to make sure it's peachy? Tried different DIMM slots? Really dusting out the mobo particularly around the US3 header?>>103061624Email them saying your Ram is bad and they send you a new kit while you send them the bad one. Simple as..
What's the reasoning behind the pinned post skipping the 7800 XT recommendation?I'm on 1080p looking for an upgrade to my GTX 1080 (no OC). I can't stand FSR looking like shit (apparently it's better at 2K resolution), so I'm leaning toward an AMD upgrade rather than NVIDIA.Never used AMD before. All I care is ease of use and setting myself up for 5 years of smooth gaming.Any thoughts? Also should I wait for the new NVIDIA GPUs timing?
>>103061672>waitThis is always the answer.
>>103061411Mainly want a 1440p monitor to replace my current decrepit one for a change. I'm fine with downscaling to 1080 as my usual resolution though. My budget also doesn't really support getting a GPU over $700~ since I'm also buying other components that I need to upgrade.
>>103061524don't OLEDs have insane black bleeding?My phone's sure does
>>103061672>I can't stand FSR looking like shit (apparently it's better at 2K resolution), so I'm leaning toward an AMD upgrade AMD is FSR only, Nvidia has FSR and DLSS. You only plan to play with raster only and zero upscaling ever? What resolution? 1440p?
>>103061711OLEDs literally do not have a backlight.
>>103061672If you plan on buying a brand new GPU I suggest you wait until CES announcements
>>103061741Indeed hence the perfect blacks... and low brightness
>>103061714As I said I'm on 1080p. I just want smoother gameplay, especially for some more graphically more demanding competitive games like The Finals, and overall 60-90fps for other games 5 years down the line. I'm good CPU/RAM/SSD wise.I wonder if raster only would get me far 5 years in the line.My gamer instinct tells me I'm gonna get crushed using raster only before a better upgrade, unless we're talking AA games or rare cases of good optimisation.>>103061751Any refresh on the date/timeframe please?
>>103061451Intel made some seriously impressive strides in a short period of time and all it did was keep their head above water because amd did the same.The gap between the 10700k and 14900k is similar to the gap between an i7-3770k and a 10700k... in single and multi core. That's a massive jump. It just doesn't seem like it because amd has conditioned us to see massive jumps as normal.
>>103061634>When did these problems start?After I plugged everything after unplugging it for some "seasonal cleaning", done it multiple times but I guess this time I fucked up.>Tried to CLR CMOS and update BIOS?Nope, haven't updated the BIOS for a couple of years.>Have you run MemTest on your RAM to make sure it's peachy?Hmm, haven't tried that.>Tried different DIMM slots?Yes.>Really dusting out the mobo particularly around the US3 header?Yes, but I believe a couple of the pins in the mobo are fucked.
>>103059630>>103059614its all about the ecores. p cores will get some love next gen>>103059552>again, they will figure it out
I love markets with only 2 competitors so much. When one company lags behind it lets the other company do whatever the fuck they want and fuck over consumersI so look forward to spending $480 for what’s basically an overclocked 7800x3d and $1300 for a 16gb 5080 :)
>>103061914just dont buy le gaymin CPU anon. AMD GPUs are fine if you dont want to raytrace>they say the next iteration will have more RT parts
>>103061914that's because you keep making excuses to not buy from 3rd competitor
>>103061898>After I plugged everything after unplugging it for some "seasonal cleaning", done it multiple times but I guess this time I fucked up.70% chance you didn't plug something in fully. Redo it making sure every cable and slot is snugly seated.
What would need to happen for the 5000 serie to boost the second hand market prices of GPUs and how likely would it be?
>>103061925yfw games start requiring good RT
>>103061945>What would need to happen for the 5000 serie to boost the second hand market prices of GPUsSomehow perform worse than 4000 series, i.e Nvidia pulls a Bulldozer or their some giant third-wave resurgence in Crypto.>how likely would it be?Not very>>103061958RT was never good
>>103061942Will try again later today and report back. I always hated the USB3 headers for some reason so I guess it isn't a surprise I screwed it up.
>>103061966RT works and looks great on the games I like
What are the best 32" OLED monitors on the market right now? I'm currently using a 42" C3 but even with a 30" deep desk it feels too big. Also looking for recs for a decent 4K 27" to pair with it for static shit like web browsing.
>>103061966>RT was never good sour grapes
>>103061958MH Wilds? Although the optimization of that game seems dreadful.
>>103062042some games are starting to require a level of RT at base like Star Wars outlaws
>>103062042The level of performances is astonishing for the Beta, the the worst sense possible.MHW at the time had some problems that got fixed with drivers and stuff, but now it's extreme. Their engine was already pushed to maximum at the time, and can only imagine that they went nuclear for this one. If it runs on PS5 I'm sure they'll find a way to fix it. MHW sold too much on PC for them to ignore it, and Capcom really wants to secure that market to push their agenda.If one of you ever play MH Wilds, please, go in the options to turn of the cat talking and have it meow like it always did. This world is losing its mind.
cheap thirdie hereRX 7600, used 6800 for 1440p?
>>103062112used 6800
>>103062112>thirdie>1440pWhy do you do this to yourself, man? Anyway, 6800.
>>103062112You'll be fine anon.
>>103062112newer gen is almost always gonna be better
>>103061914Good. Fuck poorfags
>>103062133You recommend to stay at 1080p?
my case arrives today! ncase t1
I recently bought my first pc for 400€ off of craigslist and I'm pretty happy with it, but there are two small issues:The included ssd has quite a lot of wear (see picrel) and the stock amd cooler gets quite loud under load.Should I replace the ssd and what is the cheapest cooler that will cool the 3600x silently?
The benefits of buying a well reviewed good brand monitor instead of a cheaper brand. Someone else made color management calibration ICC profiles for your display you just download and run in Windows versus you wrestling per setting control for hours.
>>103062232Monitor the SMART data over the next month's time, if the error metrics don't start stacking up precipitously and the health status % doesn't decline it'll still be good for a several more years. As far as coolers, any cheap 120mm tower cooler should do fine like this:https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/sysV3C/thermalright-burst-assassin-120-se-argb-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ba120-se-argb
>>103062186I'd rather stay at 1080p and not use shitscaling but maybe that's just me.
how reusable are those thermal pads on ssd heatsinks?
Day 576 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.
>>103058355put my machine together completely and moved drives/gpu over, i disabled half of the cores because counter strike was unplayable it said 300fps but felt like 50, works great with half disabled i assume its to do with the clock speed
>>103062186yes
>>103062368
>>103062368>built for prosyou should write BBC over the "pros"
>>103062383no thank you im not american
>>103062347as long as they touch the components they're reusable. if you squish them too much or they rip then its uneven contact.
>>103062383jesus your brain is fried anon
How dumb is it to have swap/pagefile on a drive with a flaky connection?
>>103062339Thanks, I'll keep an eye on that.For the cooler I was considering either the Peerless Assassin 120 SE, or the Phantom Spirit EVO, but I assume they're way overkill for a 95W cpu.The burst is significantly cheaper, so I'll probably get that one, thanks for the advice!
>>103062484NP. Just save a snapshot of >>103062232 somewhere and compare it again in December.
https://www.amazon.com/WD_BLACK-SN770-Internal-Gaming-Solid/dp/B09QV692XYany other 1tb SSD I should consider for $70?
>>103062444No more swap in the year 2024. Throw away your ewaste and get something else.
>>103062516For just $18 more you can double your capacity with this model instead (same 5-year warranty too):https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VxfFf7/silicon-power-a60-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-sp002tbp34a60m28
>>103062625NTA but I had a silicon power nvme die on me after a month. I don't recommend them. they cant handle sudden drive disconnects either, corrupts the whole drive.
Can I do any cheaper for nas? I'll be looking at used computers and I'll have to buy 3 or 6 disks and not just one.Nas setup with backups:- One 3 disk raid z1 and second 3 disk raid z1. - One 3 disk raid z1 and second 1 disk.
>>103062383and they say there's no true blood americans on this site
Which brands have good uefi for tweaking for Ryzen? Contemplating about the purported 9000 series 3D enhanced OC
>>103062444For best performance put your pagefile on a ramdrive, kek
>>103062444Best pagefile is not being a RAMlet.
>>103062827I am split between getting the 12100f and the 4500 for my budget build. The major factor is that the lga 1700 motherboard I would have to buy while on the same budget is so much worse than the AM4. And I am worried I may miss some of the features down the line if I want to upgrade my ram for example of add a wifi card.On the other hand 1210f will offer a good deal more raw performance than the 4500, but it's also only 4 core so it may suffer more in the coming years
>>103062827asus
>>103062444>>103062545>>103062900Windows still needs a good amount virtual memory because various win32 programs are coded to dump shit into it when stuff is not in use.FFXVI will use up to like 16gb just to shader compile even if you have 64gb of ram.
>>103062042It is dreadful
>>103062954I think you want at least 1536mb of swap for some kind of error handling or something like that
the more i learn about AIOs the more they sound like a pain in the ass that doesnt even last long, why shouldn't i just get an nh d15 g2? it'll last forever
>>103063078any kind of water cooling has been a meme for over a decade
>>103062383Mutt's law strikes again
Are there any affordable PC cases for ATX with 5 hotswap 3.5" drive bays or just an easy internal drive rack with decent cooling and good dust filtration?I don't need a GPU or beefy CPU cooler at alljust want to set up a basic fileserver NAS without taking up too much room but want drive bays for re purposing old HDDs without them roasting at 55c or so in a case with no fan over the drive bays
>>103063078You should (not the G2 though it's way too expensive and will likely be at parity or beaten by the Thermalright Royal Preytor Ultra whenever it launches for a fraction of the cost).
>>103063078the only real advantage, you can put fan on top ram for cooling
>>103063078For less than half the price get a thermal right peerless asssasin or deepcool ak620.
>>103061524>$450 OLEDUS prices are so fucking insane what the fuck
>>103058650Yes.
>>103063105I've searched and searched and I've given up. Used server das or some server chassis. If you have lots of monies, there are decent nas cases from silverstone. I think silverstone is only option if you have monies and want hot swap.For the poors (not really), get fractal node 304 or node 804. Fractal define 7 xl if you have lots and lots of disks.
>>103062232Only 10TB writes at 6000 hours and at 81% already? Trash that garbage and go buy a proper oneBX500 a shit that's why the MX500 is their only one worth buying. I wouldn't recommend it as an OS drive.
>>103063199>fractal node 304 or node 804. Fractal define 7 xlcan confirm these are the only cases that even fit the bill
>>103062232Is there crystal disk info with animu for loonix.
>>103063218Look at my nas build anon, Its got the node 304 >>103062728.
>$40 for a SINGLE 140mm fan I fucking hate reddit and linuszoomerniggers so much for relentlessly worshiping noctua and allowing them to justify charging so much for this shit
>>103063292Don't buy it then, retard.
>>103063306tell me what 140mm to get then
>>103063331Arctic
>>103063339dont those have an annoying humming/whining problem
so boys, is the AMD the way to go?i want some cores so do I get 9950X or 9900X?
>>103062368What case is that?
>>103063292Hahahahaha, I bought a 5 pack arctic p14, Guess how much that cost.
>>103063344The answer depends on how much onions you consume. Checkout p14 max as well. THat's better
>>103062954Applications don't decide what goes or doesn't go into the pagefile.>FFXVI will use up to like 16gbWasn't the FFXVI port reported to be full of memory leaks?Most likely windows dumps it out of RAM into the pagefile after the process is done using it and 'forgets' to deallocate it.
>>103063348Either one is fine. I bought 7900x. Consider 7950x as well. They are all good. Check which one fits in your budget.
>>103063292Check out a RGB variant, for some reason those can be cheaper at times.
best ddr5 hynix M-die ?
Should I get an SSD now, or wait until Black Friday?
>>103063761Buy now
>>103063761SSDs do in fact get some savings on Black Friday.
>>103063761buy now from amazon, but check out deals and just return it if you see a really good one, or you might be able to be refunded the difference if the model you already got goes on sale within the return window
>>103063218Node 304 is bust. There are no cheap itx boards. mATX ftw. 804 it is.
>>103063292I paid $340 for 10 noctua 120's. It is what it is. Just don't be poor and it's okay. Almost went for the t-30s based on reviews but I had heard they sound less pleasant and are more prone to whine. Idk. I don't have much experience with the brand but I've had noctua fans before and I know their sound profile is pleasant at least to my ears so I didn't want to take a leap of faith. Especially when the price was similar and the performance advantages were miniscule.
>>103062232>100TBW is 20% wear on 1TB driveWhat is this, QLC? Still that suggests another 400TB left, that's like two decades of normal use.>100TBW in 6k hoursWhat the fuck did they do with it? My system + games + torrents + media drive got 100TBW in 35k hours and I did not even specially configure os in any way to reduce wear.>72C peak temperature on sataWhat the fuck did they do with it???
>>103062112>>103062341my 6800 handles 4k60+ perfectly fine in all games that I tried, no scaling.
>>103061396>after a lot of research seems to be a piece of shit in disguise>considers buying IPS
>>103063199node 804 seems kinda neat, but is only mATX and I was looking for ATXFractal 7xl seems decent too but I don't want glass/plastic panel on a NAS at allI guess if I go with a tower for the NAS it would offer upgradability so I might settle for another fuckhuge towerat the very least a big tower would mean I don't need tiny fast RPM fans and won't have a nightmare cable managing>>103063970yes BX500 is a QLC shit budget drive cheaper than the cheapest name brand (MX500) cheapshit TLC/QLC drive+cache on the market atmthink they were on sale for $60 for 2TB not long agothe MX500s are really quite bottom of the barrel shit
>>103063970This is an SSD I bought from ebay awhile back
>>103063292the only things I use noctua fans for, are as replacements for the cheap, old small fans they put in older consoles. large fans are already reasonably quiet, unlike those tiny ones
I'm gonna do it brosI'm finally going to replace my LGA-2011 3930K, DDR3 system (keeping my 2080Ti for now)I'm not yet sure on the motherboards though It seems they all lack some shit and add some shit with no clear winnerAlso benchmarks show at least 4% CPU performance difference between the boards which I find oddMotherboards are hard for me to compare because of all the variables (on board x if you use slot y then slot z loses w or slot v is disabled)
>>103063761I'd say wait, worse case scenario they'll be at the same price.
>>103062232>>103063970tbw is a very conservative metricmost ssd's can handle at least 10 times more writes than the declared tbw>>103063201retard>>103064096>yes bx500 is a qlcno, only the 1, 2 and 4 tb versions are qlc128, 256, 512 and 960 gb versions are tlc>(MX500) cheapshit >the MX500s are really quite bottom of the barrel shit??? whatthey are literally the best sata ssd's, on par with 860/870 evowhat the fuck are you talking about
>>103064096>I guess if I go with a tower for the NAS it would offer upgradability so I might settle for another fuckhuge tower at the very least a big tower would mean I don't need tiny fast RPM fans and won't have a nightmare cable managingFor modern towers (those that include USB Type C front panel connectivity) with acceptable levels of 3.5" storage capacity at sane price levels your choices are a bit limited:Thermaltake The Tower 500, Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 (picrel), & the Silverstone SETA D1
>>103064228What do you specifically NEED the 870E chipset for? Cheap B650 boards are 90% of the features for like 40% of the price.
>>103061624>lifetimenot your lifetime, lol.
>>103061704Just get a 1080p monitor, if you downscale from a 1440p monitor the image will look washed out as opposed to crisp.
>>103063970>400TB leftThat can be very short lived with how massive games are getting these days.
>>103062368Dare I say, it's kind annoying how RAM slots are always so damn close to the CPU socket.
>>103064228Shitpost or retard. Call it.
>>103064228I'd only go for an X870E board if you're going to be running 8000+ RAM or actually need the USB4, X670E boards are way less schizophrenic with their lane allocation due to no USB4 taking up a bunch of them.
>>103064304anon says x870E boards dont have all the features he would likesome other anon> WHY do you even NEED x870E, in fact, you should go to a LOWER chipset with LESS features because CHEAPER and I DONT use those features so there is no way YOU WILL without justifying to MEyou could say I have a love hate relationship with /pcbg/
>>103064345just add the ram to the CPU already
Is 1440p a meme?
>>103064369More or less.
>>103064355
>>103063423less
>>103064352>you could say I have a love hate relationship with /pcbg/I honestly don't understand the weird reactions to certain components.People buy giant AIOs, hundreds of dollars worth of fans and its no issue, but oh god you look to buy a high end motherboard and suddenly you have to justify it with your "needs" which is ironic because no one here is building because of hard "needs"Very strange behaviour
>>103063331beQuiet's Silent Wings 4
>>103063145Hardly any mutt has so much money in his account.
>>103064378Good god I've always wanted one of those CPUs just to troll with pics of zero DIMMs installed
>>103064304I want it to be as future proof as possible and have as many features as possible because as you can see from my current pc, I make my PCs last.USB 4 is a must. Loads of fast 10gbps USB A&C is alsoSame for at least 2 pci-e 5 x16 slots and at least 4 m.2 slots and preferably 5gbps ethernet port
What's the consensus on using Smart Mode to control the fans or just set a fan curve?
>>103064262BX500 is qlc shitwhat is your source for it not being? could have sworn it was even advertised as QLC, just like samshits QVO 870MX500 is also slow vs its competition which is why it's regularly the lowest priced decent name brand SSD on the marketcorners were cut and performance suffersit's still okay, and has decent endurance, but isn't anywhere close to fully saturating the SATA3 interface but it exists in a product class where people don't expect that so it gets by without people whining much in reviewsit also uses a smart controller with caching so typical use cases usually have the native performance be masked and it appears fast but if you have demanding workloads it can be quite slowsustained writes with data being modified for example do much better on 870 Evo, or, even older model Crucial SATA SSDs than the mx500its like a benchmark hero but the benches are rigged for burst performance>>103064272Enthoo Pro 2 with the closed panel looks decent, I'll look into that. Seems spacious.Aesthetically I wish it were symmetrical with the left side mirrored over onto the right but as it is I can probably live with that.Don't need that many drive bays but I guess if I've got em I can slot in some more dated 1TB drives to be idle/slept and spun up on occasion for more backups until I find a better use for the bays so not bad to have em, today I only care for 5 bays though as my requirement. Currently only use three for my NAS but will be upgrading to 5x high capacity drives in a RAIDZ1 next year which is why I'm looking for a new casecurrent one is shit and drives are toasty due to no airflow (45c) idling and I know it'll be stupid hot with 5 packed in
>>103063145>>US prices are so fucking insanecap
>>103064430>no see it's actually a good thing 3rd world prices are so high>we love paying more to show we have moneyWeird cope but ok
>>103064352That's exactly why usually I don't bother asking shit on this boardAll you get is a retard replying:>"you don't need what you think you need because I don't need it"
>>103064463>Walmart>32GB DDR5You guys heard it here first, 32GB is officially Walmart normie grade.If you're building new in 2024 and not aiming for 64-128 you've got a memory upgrade in the future you'll be looking at if you keep the build for a while lmao.
>>103064463How the fuck did you get a 1tb ssd for $22?
I BOUGHT THE ROG Zephyrus G16 (2024) GU605 WITH AN RTX 4090 LAPTOP GPU FOR LIKE $3,000 AND THIS SHIT LITERALLY BURNS ME. EVEN WHEN IM JUST PLAYING RUNESCAPE. LMAOI GOT SCAMMED.EVEN MY MACBOOK DOESNT BURN ME.CLOWN WORLD.
>looking to upgrade to 9800x3d from a 5600x>requires am5 motherboard>want to get the NZXT N9 because I'm going with a white theme>NZXT isn't releasing it until fucking Q1 2025>the only other clean(ish) looking white board is the aorus pro ice which is overpriced and uglysuffering
>>103064523>buying a laptop with a high end GPUPick your poison, you chose twice.
>>103063105I would say just embrace the chia jbod but it's not for the feint of heart, extremely barebones construction.44 HDD slots all cooled with 120mmIt's going to be a permanent fixture in my house as it has room to grow as needed.
>>103064523
I bought a laptop with a 4070 for 1000 bucks, how did I do?
>>103064523>>103064585>buying a laptop with a gaming GPU
>>103064592How else do you propose that I game?
>>103064613>>103058355
>>103064620How am i going to bring a 50 pound tower to my gaming club?
>>103064629spend more and make it itx
>>103064629
>>103064674Can you fit a 4090 in there though?
>>103064685Doesn't matter. A 4090 needs a tower with lots of breathing room. Only a retard would cripple a card like that for the small aesthetic.
>>103064685>mobile 40"""90""">16GB>150WYes. Twice over.
>>103064532> white themefaggot
>>103064703A 4090 can do fine in a mini itx. The key is to not use the retarded default OC BIOS. A reasonable power limit is 95% of the performance at 25+ % power reduction.
>>103064736forgive me for not having a clown box of randomly assorted parts based on price/perf. Or better yet a "black only no RGB" build, lmao
I hope 5090 isn't $2,000 - $2,500 and if true, I hope the market doesn't accept it. Then again $1,000+ GPUs are standard now. Maybe it'll be for workstation/AI use so 5080 will be the seller but that could be $1,500 now.
>>103064755White builds are nice but expensive and hard to find, but don't underestimate a solid black case. I was annoyed that my NH-D15 G2 doesn't have a black option yet so I have to use the default hideous brown one, but then I remembered I can't see shit inside my case so I don't care. I'm looking at my monitor, not my case.
I fell for the 'airflow case' trend with my last build, but it's way too loud. I don't want to hear my GPU coil whine or fans when I'm playing games.Are there any good cases that aren't just mesh and fans nowadays? I'll probably do a new build with a 7900X and move my 7900 XT to it.
>>103008033>>103008351Hey, /g/uys. ~8 threads ago I was asking what to replace my motherboard with since my current b450/ac burned out, and got a couple recs for ASRock, and in the end went for a B650E Taichi with a amd 6700X cpu.I don't need a hundred ports, just a board that will stand the test of time, allow me the optionally to upgrade if desired, and look minimalistically stylish (and not cost $300+).Thanks for these threads and the couple recs that I did get, they were significant in setting me on the right path.. Will update later with how the new PC feels.
>>103064821*typos and horrendous grammar, this what phone posting does to you
>>103064460>BX500 is qlc shit what is your source for it not being?https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B27_j9NDPU3cNlj2HKcrfpJKHkOf-Oi1DbuuQva2gT4/edit?gid=0#gid=0just as i said, the 960 gb and lower storage versions are tlc, you can also find this info on plenty of reviews of it>MX500 is also slow vs its competitionno it's not>it's still okaythen why were you saying it's bottom of the barrel shit 5 minutes agoI'm not even going to address the rest of all that dogshit you just wrote holy shit imagine having so much autism
>>103064755Yes, I'm a mature adult and have a no window build remaining UNDER my desk, how did you know?
>>103064795You didn't fall for anything. Airflow cases are the best but the tradeoff is noise. Silent cases aren't recommended because you make a significant tradeoff in temps and ironically your PC fans will probably run much louder due to lack of airflow. If you're sensitive to sound get a Be Quiet! or Fractal Pop Silent case. I have a Torrent and I'm aware of it even at lowest speeds but the fans are so big that even maxed out it's not obnoxious, but I just use headphones and forget about it because the cooling is worth it for me.
>>103064795I have a Fractal Meshify 2 and I'm not using the computer if it weren't for LED in the front of the case I wouldn't be able to tell if it's on or not.
>>103064862It's the GPU coil whine and fans that annoy me and there's really not much I can do about that. I replaced all the case fans with Noctua ones, they're barely audible.I'm guessing the fuck huge mesh in the front is letting a lot of the noise out and it's loud enough that I need to crank audio to the max to drown out the noise.>>103064886What GPU?
>>103064795
>>103064886I have a Fractal Meshify 2 sitting under my desk and the front fans are easily audible at 500 rpm.I regret buying it.
>>103058355So, my computer has started having an issue booting up, it powers on with fans running and lights and all that, though the keyboard and mouse don't power on and the monitor simply displays "HDMI no signal" and shuts off.I've tried restarting it several times, unplugging and reinserting my cords and cables but nothing has changed.Any advice?
Coil whine is a feature not a bug. It's like a framepacing graph you can hear. When the sound is skipping you can tell the game is unoptimized.
>>103064960Neat, this looks good.Will definitely consider it.
>>103065009just superglue it
>>103064685
>Silverstone ALTA F1Any other cases with a 90 degrees turned motherboard so the io is on top and the gpu is actually vertical?
>>103065031See example of how the gpu is hanging
>>103065015Or set a better fps cap. The whine varies at different fps it's why it sounds like hell at 666fps.
>>103064629you can't lift 50 pounds? spaghetti arms over here
>>103064629DYEL need to stop going to gaming club and start hitting the gym
>>103065111>>103065111>>103065111
>>103064629Stop living in 2005
>>103064906A RTX 3070
>>103064460>Enthoo Pro 2 with the closed panel looks decent, I'll look into that. Seems spaciousdunno what the pro 2 is like, but the regular enthoo pro is pretty good for my build, fans are also pretty quiet. fairly certain the hard drive bays can be removed in mine, likely would be similar in the pro 2
>>103064860I meant the BX is the bottom of the barrel shitMX500 is just second rate decentwhere the fuck do you even find a 480GB / 960GB BX500?Crucial lists them as 1TBhttps://www.crucial.com/ssd/bx500/CT1000BX500SSD1I'm assuming they're recycling the model# because they used to be 250/500/1TBnothing I've said has been wrongyou probably haven't even put these drives through testing yourself and are relying on (((reviewers))) and old bench datarevised products often bench differently vs how they performed at their introduction and for some reason it isn't illegal to completely gut a product and make it perform totally different while keeping the same model numbers but that's just how things areyou can take your 960GB unicornBX500 and lick it for all I careregardless of what variant these are nowhere near top of the line products lmao
>>103059489Efficiency is its own reward, anon.
>>103060385But the human eye can only see up to 60 fps anyways.
>>103065009I, for one, always loved the sound my PC made over the years. A PC that makes noise is a PC that is working. You know what a perfectly quiet PC means. A dead PC, that's what it is.
>>103065229...are you fucking serious?the guy we were replying to literally screenshotted that he has the 960 gb modeland you are telling me... it doesn't exist because... mhh it doesn't okay??lol
>>103066794no niggerI'm asking where they come frombecause I'm not saying they don't exist just that I've never seen them, all the ones I saw were 1TB/2TB etc. Had hands on with 1TB. 1000GB. Not 960GB BX500s ever. Never seen one.Not for sale, not in person, not in anything until now.WHEREdo you find them?
>>103066865like... on amazon?maybe the 960 one is discontinued and only the 250/500/1t/2t versions are available now, but why the fuck does it matter?he got a used pc, the 960 gb version was available at the time, and it came with tlc nand, so? I really don't understand what your point is and what all this bitching is about
