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soft skills edition

>Interviewing
Neetcode 150: https://neetcode.io/practice
Tips and interview practice: https://blog.interviewing.io/

>How to write a resume
https://stackoverflow.blog/2020/11/25/how-to-write-an-effective-developer-resume-advice-from-a-hiring-manager/

>Salary Stuff
"What's your expected salary?": https://www.fearlesssalarynegotiation.com/salary-expectations-interview-question/
Negotiation advice: https://github.com/petermekhaeil/salary-negotiating
Salary data: https://levels.fyi/

Don't disclose your current salary to recruiters.

>Layoffs
https://layoffs.fyi/

>Helpful YouTube Channels
https://www.youtube.com/@ContinuousDelivery
https://www.youtube.com/@EngineeringwithUtsav
https://www.youtube.com/@ByteByteGo (systems design at a high level)
https://www.youtube.com/@ycombinator (if you're doing a startup)
https://www.youtube.com/@hnasr (for studying backed architecture)

Previous thread: >>103051485
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>>103065235
kys jeetcode shill
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>>103065235
>>103065256
LMAO is OP really shilling a paid website? I never checked out neetcode before, holy kek what a scam at least link the pirated version or something
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>>103065286
he keeps removing the actual OP for this irrelevant bullshit
thread hijacking schizos are a plague of most generals
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>>103065286
Thanks for reminding me to cancel my leetcode subscription.
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>>103065299
>[. . .] schizos are a plague of [. . .] generals
Yes that's right
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>>103065286
>>103065351
You don't even really have to do leetcode or neetcode. Whenever I have an interview coming up, I just watch a few of free neetcode's YT videos, maybe one or two from each category, and that's enough to refresh my memory on how to solve the problems.
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>>103065235
>another early pajeetcode shill thread
Kill yourself already
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>>103065369
You must be really smart anon. I bet you make a lot of money too.
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>>103065408
Idk if I'm all that smart, but I make decent money. It helps that I write a lot of code and I use all of the different data structures in projects pretty regularly... it's just I need a refresh on some of the algorithms.
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>>103065476
You code this stuff for fun? You're lucky if you do leetcode-type things at work. I have to grind because my brain turns to mush from working on bizshit/webshit code and I have no time to do side projects.
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interview coming up
any tips on how to practice programming? maybe some algorithm workbooks etc
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How do I bullshit my way into literally any tech position? I'm working on my degree but I cannot fucking live on 18/h from a bullshit job and I'm wasting my life and I live paycheck to paycheck.

Should I just lie on my resume? I'm 100% confident that I can perform at a junior level but nobody is giving anyone a chance.
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>>103065235
>desperate for a job to pay bills
>degree isn't getting me shit
>decide to take a service desk job
i don't care how desparate you guys are, do not repeat my mistake
you could train a monkey with down syndrome to do this job. i can feel my neural connections breaking every second i'm on the phone fixing the most mundane, bullshit problem. everyone treats you like you're a techno-janny nitwit.
i don't think i'm gonna make it another few months here, bros.
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>>103066236
>a service desk job
So what do you do exactly?
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The cia who else
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>>103066292
>So what do you do exactly?
at the start of every week, project management takes a massive shit on my desk. then i have to triage every issue with their dumpster fire and be the scapegoat for their awful implementation. all the while i didn't even know this project existed. i almost have to wonder if they are purposely obtuse out of pure malice for IT or just flat out retarded. probably the latter.
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I got promoted this week. My bosses indirectly said they were scared of losing me ("we know other companies are reaching out to you"). I still plan to leave the company in a few months, I get opportunities from recruiters that would double my current salary. I just wanted to be able to say I did a good job in my first role, now that I've done a good job it's time to move on.
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Don't work for the backing sector, they will exploit you and never give a rise. I regret leaving my consulting company so damn much.
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>>103066750
what's the backing sector
don't you mean baking sector? like krispy kreme
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>>103065655
I have a side project that's fairly complex, but even at work I tend to find reasons to use different structures.
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Why is embedded the most fun but the pay is so shit
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>>103066907
explain how embedded is fun
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i can embed my dick up your ass
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>>103066595
>"we know other companies are reaching out to you"
How do they know?
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>>103066993

who can find this model irl?
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>>103065372
>>103065256
samefag

the neetcode guy is american born and raised. he would run circles around you in technical skill. hes also a decent human being, while you are probably a socially awkward loser
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>>103065299
boomerfag, ive been posting this general for MONTHS. I was year when /twg/ first started 1-2 years ago. I moulded this general. you merely adopted it. sit down and shut up.
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>>103066750
I tohught they were chill
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>>103066750
>backing sector
banking?
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>>103066993
>ruin a great body with junkie doodles
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>>103067439
>>103067448
Uh oh, pajeetcode is having a melty!
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>>103066907
The final product is less abstract so you actually feel accomplished when you finish. You weren't just making some shitty mobile app or website.
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Is having the CISSP worth a damn if I don't aim for a cybersecurity job? I do quality for 4 of the domains, but I'm looking at pivoting towards a more managerial role rather than one strictly centered around IT. Enlighten me, anons.
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>>103066907
It's the easiest, that's why.
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>>103067260
My guess is that my company (over 20k people) can see LinkedIn metrics on certain people (like me), I only get reached out to "in writing" on LinkedIn from competitors, I get roughly one serious message per month. I expect my LinkedIn to be monitored which is fine because the actual offers I'm considering aren't on LinkedIn, I would never use LinkedIn for actual jobseeking, only the meme of scaring my current employer and making myself look competitive, because apparently no one has a skillset and credentialing and location that I do. A recruiter directly told me I am "one of a dozen people in [large metro] with your combo", I didn't respond to that guy just like I didn't respond to the other dozens of recruiters and CEOs and everyone else directly messaging me, I didn't say anything when directly accosted by my bosses in the pre-promotion chat we had, I know my worth as a hard worker and so does everyone else, if I say I'm going then the world will acknowledge and flip in my hands willingly.
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How is the IT job market for Americans in South Korea?
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Reposting:

Who should I vote for, twg? I'm legitimately evenly split between kamala (less chaos, slightly better economic policy, obvious downsides), not voting at all (maybe the moral choice) or Trump (tiny chance at reversing American decline at the cost of extreme instability and more billionaire corruption). Bonus points go to the candidate who will do the most damage to the software industry.
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>>103067970
Write-in Joe Biden, presidency doesn't matter, Trump was ineffective and so was Biden, Kamala will be no better, enjoy the ride and get rich while the rest of America continues to suffer
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>>103067970
*environmental policy
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>>103067987
Its moronic to say the two will be the same, although I agree that the event horizon of decline has probably been crossed already.
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>>103068007
All the major issues like Control Asylum Policy (previous Trump) and Release Student Debt (current Biden) and Deport Criminal Aliens (future Trump) and 25K First Homebuyers (future Kamala) will just get shot down in court like all the previous shootdowns, it will be exactly the same, Congress refuses to make any changes and the courts will continue to destroy everything else.
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>>103067970
Jill Stein is the only one against war.
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>>103068007
Biden has visibly been a puppet for 4 years, why do you think the others are any different? Voting draws you into the system and tells them you consent.
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>>103067970
I don't think it matters at all. Stock market and corporations run the country. You probably don't even live in a swing state so your vote doesn't matter to begin with.
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>>103067970
If you want to utterly destroy the tech industry then your choice is Trump, he's planning on stapling green cards to foreign graduates which basically means indians.
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>>103068113
War is good for business.
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>>103068130
Biden has dementia and your intuition doesn't determine reality. Don't be retarded.
>>103068144
I live in a swing state, otherwise I would write in Thomas Jefferson or something.
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>>103068216
>Biden has dementia
Right, so he clearly isn't in charge of his administration and yet everything's going as normal. It's almost like the president doesn't actually do anything.
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>>103068273
Its almost like he has dementia and you have schizophrenia
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>>103068273
They can deter war using rhetoric, like Trump did with his big mean words.
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>>103068287
>you're schizophrenic for noticing the current US government is running no different than usual even with a visibly mentally unfit president
The president may as well be a cat or a dog. I'm pretty sure there are a few animal mayors so why not.
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>>103068316
Go find an elementary school book on how the government works and read it
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>>103067495
>>103066813
>>103067495
>>103066750
*Banking. Yes, I meant to say banking sector.
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>>103067970
From the narrow interest of a tech worker, probably Kamala because she doesn't isn't going to bring in more """high skill immigration""" aka Jeets with Masters from third-tier toilet degree mills. You can't trust a guy with Vivek and Vance who's married to an Indian to come down hard on the J(eet)Q.

Broadly, I think the benefits of cracking down on immigration-facillitating NGOs such that they self-deport and the crown in the gutter of "arrest criminals and vagrants" outweighs Trump being weak on J(eet)Q.
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>>103068398
>on how the government works
Without a president apparently.
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>>103068444
>cracking down on immigration-facillitating NGOs such that they self-deport
Why are you under the impression that he's going to do that?
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>>103067860
Lurking still
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Is it worth doing an online degree in cybersecurity just to check a box on a resume?
Will employers care which school it's from?
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>>103067970
No matter who you vote for your life will not change. People need to learn to rise above propaganda and realize it's mostly an show to make you feel like you're living in a fair society.
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>>103066513
know your place helpdesk wagie. if you mis-route a ticket to my team again your boss is gonna put you on a PIP
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>The company stock is keeps dropping below my vesting amount because MBAs are mad that we are spending money on infrastructure to get record profits instead of just buying the sloppiest of start ups
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>>103065235
>tfw another ghosted employer
>tfw gap is now 1.75 years.
It's over for me bros, wish me luck in finding lead in commiefornia.
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>boss' old coworker comes in
>coworker is headhunting
>boss talks me up
>get a call from a manager at old coworker's company to schedule an interview
>says it will be informal
Does this mean I'm getting the job?
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>>103065235

You will never be a real programmer. You have no commits, you have no pull requests, you have no public repos. You are a low IQ brown man twisted by an unearned comp sci degree and coding bootcamps into a crude mockery of nature's perfection.

All the “validation” you get is two-faced and from bots. Behind your back people say that you're a useless DEI hire. Your parents are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “tech bros” laugh at you behind closed doors.

Real programmers are utterly repulsed by you. Even devs who “pass” have no creative output and excessively verbose with techno buzzwords. Your GitHub profile is a dead giveaway, and even if you manage to score a 3 month internship at a tech company, a real company will turn tail and bolt the second they sees that you haven't completed any non school related projects.

You will never be happy. You cope by saying that your bullshit software is using a proprietary test framework so you can't open source it, but deep down you know it's because you don't want people to see your incompetence, and that the core of your software is actually an open source project which you're shamelessly profiting off.

Eventually it will be too much to bear. You'll buy a google gift card, a spoofed business phone number, and start scamming old people into redeeming.

This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.
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Don't forget to set your clocks!
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>>103070234
>tfw no daylight savings here
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>>103067970
I mean the only sensical choice is Kamala, Trump will annihilate the economy and bring more indians than ever into tech.
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Wait will America seriously sponsor visas more often or what? I just need a masters in any tech field?
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>>103067970
>not voting at all (maybe the moral choice)
Not voting is the lazy choice. Invalidating your ballot, now that's the chad maneuver
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>>103067970
Trump, obviously
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>>103070422
imagine thinking both options won't lead to more hordes of fucking jeets at every layer of society including tech.
Also imagine thinking the president personally controls the economy and that one option will create a sizable difference from another
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Trump tried to fix H1Bs but Indian companies sued to block the rule
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>>103065235
>be me
>2018
>junior dev
>lifes_good.png
>work in a contractor company
>company finds fintech client
>build backend system for client with a few other devs
>janky Java piece of shit, but it works
>2020
>quit and join MANFAG
>2024
>get laid off
>interview with the SAME company
>interview for the SAME client
>we don't think you have enough Java experience, anon

Still refusing to believe people are this retarded. I was there at the start and know their domain inside and out. The industry is a dumpster fire.
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>>103071587
>not lying
a true junior through and through
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>>103071587
>>103071686
I have like 10 years of xp, 4 of those with Java, 2 of which I spent on their piece of shit project. Didn't really think I had to lie.
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The whole resume writing business is a sham.

"""Employers""" simple glance at the document scanning for big names. As soon as I got a job at IBM my response rate went up by like 4000%.

All the time you spend optimising the wording and layout you could be spending networking, because the majority of people who get good jobs do it through connections, not applying on random careers websites.
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>>103071883
>Didn't really think I had to lie.
>>103071686
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>>103067970
Trump because he's going to seal the border and end h1-b this time for real r-right?
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>>103071946
trump will banish indians and finally guarantee a path for yuros to the US
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>network admin job posting at local university
>bachelors in computer science required
>10 years of experience in a strictly networking position required
>current and active CCNA required
>$75k
at a college that just built a fucking palace for the president to live in
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>>103065235
What's stopping me from dressing like this to work
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>>103066226
>Should I just lie on my resume?
Yes that's how I got my new cushy gumbint job. Lied about the stack I used and simply did not update my resume to reflect i got terminated 2 years ago kek used my friends as references and they didn't find out about my last job.
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>>103072598
is that lipstick
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>>103072655
This nigga zesty as sin, yeah. Good songs though.
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>>103072664
hmmm, he's cute I suppose
got that hobo on vacation look
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>>103072673
https://youtu.be/lIOLiJULRoQ?si=mUm51io_5itvs471

Have a listen
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>>103072700
no thanks
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>>103068007
did u retards forget trump was elected and everything was exactly the same as if hilary got elected?

if u havent figured it out by now u are actually a fucking retard. i mean this with a hunnet percent, a thousand percent.
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Who /on call/ today?
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anyone else a leetcode monkey that barely codes but has persisted in this career 10+ years?
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>>103073093
You can't even speak english
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Another long week about to start, what a nightmare. I need to get PTO for the holidays, always feels better to know that you'll have time off in the near future.
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>>103067687
Still looking for answers
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>>103065235
Hey bros, if I may solicit some advice from you-
I just started a small business after I quit my IT job at a University because I couldn't take the DEI shit and commie culture anymore. I have a second iPhone as the business telephone line.
I don't want to carry two phones in my pocket as I work all day. I'd like to leave the business iPhone in my work van.
I'll always be within 25 feet of my van.
Does Apple Watch allow me to take calls on my business iPhone from the wrist watch itself?
If so, is there a cheap chinese knock off that can do the same but cheaper?
I must answer every call even if just to tell them I'm busy and will call them back right away.
Thanks bros.
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Why is anyone in here trying to get into this industry? You have to be a fucking idiot if you don't have specific reasons. No, you being autistic and unable to deal with people is, if anything, a reason you should not get into it. If you want to make a lot of money, you could be doing literally anything else.
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>>103074327
>trying
>get into
>>>/g/utwg
next OP should have a 3 YOE minimum requirement so unitards and newgrads hang themselves
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im being forced to study for this shit by my corporate overlords and i have to say i find it extremely boring and uninteresting.
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>>103071904
>As soon as I got a job at IBM my response rate went up by like 4000%.
i too got hired at IBM but i had the opposite experience. im not getting called back by anyone anymore. i dont know what happened. maybe they think im too expensive? am i suppose to add "i dont earn shit" to my resume?
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>have a 4th round interview tomorrow
>job only pays like 25/hr at most
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>>103065235
I'm an independent contractor and my first paycheck is due on Tuesday. If my staffing agency doesn't pay me on time, what are my options? Reason I ask is because I'm not optomistic that they're going to do it. They said they'd mail the check the day they got the invoice, and that was 30 days ago.
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>>103074327
>If you want to make a lot of money, you could be doing literally anything else.
Not really. It's a lot harder to become a doctor, get into finance, or become a biglaw lawyer.

Engineers by disposition are too autistic to be saleschads, which is basically the only other profession that can make as much money as we do with even less qualification than we do.
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>>103074634
Find the owner's desk and shit on it
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>>103074588
Fuck that man, ghost the cunts.
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Here I am, again, asking if anyone has that image that shows how companies collapse under the weight of useless managerial jobs
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>>103075006
>asking if anyone has that image that shows how companies collapse under the weight of useless managerial jobs
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>>103075011
Heh, close, but not quite, it was a simple text graph
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does anyone here work as a test engineer?
are there any good resources/courses on the topic?
I got my cs degree recently but I haven't had a full time job in the field yet
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>>103071904
> As soon as I got a job at IBM my response rate went up by like 4000%.
HR departments are 99% female so it's not really surprising that their decisions operate on sexual selection logic. You're only as attractive as the people attracted to you
Almost nobody actually wants to work at amazon or the musk mines but plenty of people are willing to suffer through it for a bit because it makes finding their real job an order of magnitude less painful
>All the time you spend optimising the wording and layout you could be spending networking
You can't just start "networking" when you need a job. Networking is corporate woo for having successful friends or some family members who aren't losers
If your network isn't ready to tap when you need it it's years too late to do anything about it
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>>103074327
I like computers
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>>103075236
You write automated tests and sometimes do manual QA type tests. Not much to study just ask your boss what to do when you start.
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Another weekend over where I did nothing but look at the computer.
I wasted my youth.
But I realize there was never anything to do anyways.
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>>103067970
Kamala. Trump literally is begging for jeets to come and take all tech jobs. If that's not a death flag for the tech sector for you then I don't know what to tell you
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>>103075711
God fuck you, exactly the same for me but I didn't need you to write it down here.
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If I didn't get any answer from my Amazon loop after 5 days, is it safe to say I got rejected?
The only thing keeping my hope is:
1. Hiring manager looked at my linkedin profile
2. I didn't get a rejection mail yet, and I know other people who did
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>>103075743
Doesn't mean anything. Sometimes they're just slow. You could be their second or third choice and they want to make offers to someone else first. Could be someone was just on vacation.
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>>103075770
The wait is fucking killing me anon. I have barely eaten this entire weekend..
Should I contact my recruiter to see my status or is there no point?
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>>103075798
>I have barely eaten this entire weekend
Bruh you're mentally ill, you need to sort this shit out cause you will not survive getting a job
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>>103067970
I'm not voting. I am politically homeless.
In 2015, the right was about 3 things -
1. Hating women/faggots.
2. Being racist.
3. Being anti-semitic.
Now all of that is gone and it's just some big tent normalfag thing. I look around and I recognize nothing.
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I have the opportunity to get a free CS Bachelors, should I? It would probably take 12-24 months to complete it.
I already have a fairly substantial "project" that's a deployed product with real paying users, is that enough? Does a degree do anything other than get you your first job/check the qualifying box for the resume scanner?
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>>103075798
>so hung up over a single job application he can't eat for days
genuinely how have you not killed yourself and/or been admitted to a mental hospital
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>>103075932
Not eating for several days is common among zoomers, they do it when they are gooning all the time.
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>>103075798
Dude, just find something to distract you. Go for a walk, listen to music, play some vidya, put a movie in or something.
I'm in a similar situation myself. I had two offers, both very good, and I verbally accepted one and am waiting for the formal offer. I wanted to keep the second offer open in case the first fell through... but I had to give them an answer so I declined. Now I'm at the mercy of the first company: if they change their mind, I'm fucked, but not much I can do other than wait.
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>>103071587
most managers and recruiters are retarded and cannot recognize skill
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>>103075951
true, it's why I'm so thin
gooning is hard work
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>>103075743
I have amazon onsite coming up, how was it?
and what was the system design problem?
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>>103074327
I program in my free time for fun. I'm actually taking a break from some pytorch code I've been writing to post this.
If your hobbies were a common and well paid career wouldn't you try to get paid for them?

I actually used to way under charge when I freelanced because I couldn't understand why people were willing to pay me so much and that weirded me out.
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>>103075931
If you haven't had a real job a degree definitely helps a lot. After that it's not super interesting.
Also there's some basic stuff you may have missed teaching yourself that people will expect you to have seen in college (some math, some CS, some communications etc) that you might have not realized is important.

If it's free it's definitely a good idea.
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>>103071904
My dad works at one of the big names, got a job there through his network and the same thing happened to me. Job hunting is almost as retarded as dating.
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>>103076293
How do you find clients for freelancing?
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>>103075711
>Another weekend over where I did nothing but look at the computer.
thats like someone saying "I spent the weekend sleeping and walking in the forest (camping)"

neither are inherently a waste. being on the computer can make u money so u can feed urself. or make people laugh. or cry. its what u do on the computer that matters.
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>>103071906
>engage in scheming unprovoked
This is why you smelly jeets will never understand what it's like to be white.
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>>103077438
>hehe, I'm such a white aryan ubermensch thought mario gonzalez as he typed on his 5$ keyboard
>no TRUE white does things that help him get ahead, they hold themselves to absurd standards and get outcompeted by jeets
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>>103076293
>If your hobbies were a common and well paid career wouldn't you try to get paid for them?
Merging hobbies with work is a surefire way to make you hate your own hobbies. Been there, done that. Your job should be something that you have a passing interest and that you can stand doing for long hours.
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>>103077457
idk. The code I write at work is nothing like what I do at home. Everything else sucks so much it's the only thing I still enjoy because I don't need anyone else to do it.
>>103076518
Yes.
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>>103077450
>mario gonzalez
powerful name. would hire
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>>103075951
>>103075932
to be fair i just slept for literally over an entire day. i went to bed at 10am on saturday and woke up just now. the first thing i have consumed since getting out of bed is hitting my vape and having a shot of rum i'd left out when i went to bed a day ago. there was a dead fly floating in it
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>>103066513
So you don't do any coding, got it.
Go back to india.
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>>103074383
We should just start killing all unemployed "people"
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>>103074534
Just quit. No real shop uses windows.
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>>103077990
just put it in the next OP
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>>103078005
We need to find a meme that causes unemployed people to stroke out and die when they see it and use that for the OP
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>>103078014
just forbid them from posting, they'd seethe so much they'd make utwg to larp about their epic neet lives
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>>103078024
How do we, the users, accomplish this? Do we have to hack 4chan to scan your linkedin and ban you if you don't have at least 10YoE and TS/SCI?
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>>103078055
just put it in the OP and ignore or tell people to go to utwg when they don't meet the requirements to post here
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Doing some IT systems improvement contract work in between programming jobs and it's crazy how easy this is kek
> do some basic shit in like 5 minutes
> OMG YOURE SO AMAZING
> chill out the rest of the day because if I go at my usual pace I'll get everything done before my contract actually ends
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>>103078068
That's not enough, they keep fucking posting. It's ruining our thread.
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>>103078083
yeah, but there's no moderation
if people keep doing it enough the retards will decrease in number
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Let me offer a humble proposal: don’t respond to anyone who hasn’t accomplished anything. Ever. Certificates and degrees are not accomplishments; I mean real-world projects with real-world users. There is no excuse for software developers who don’t have a site, app, or service they can point to and say, “I did this, all by myself!” in a world where Google App Engine and Amazon Web Services have free service tiers, and it costs all of $25 to register as an Android developer and publish an app on the Android Market.
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>>103077970
Ah the joy of youth (no your life doesn't get better after you get older and have a job.)
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>>103078083
It's the weekend. /twg/ is like /smg/: you should only come here when the market is open or accept that you'll only have retards to talk with.
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>>103078144
i have a job and am over 30
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>>103078176
Case in point.
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bros should I move to sweden or japan
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>>103078192
both are full of furfags and nigger. dont do it
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>>103078192
Sweden sounds horrible.
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>>103078192
any reason why those two in particular?
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>>103078210
no extroverted subhumans in either of those countries
things apparently just work
loli is legal
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>>103078201
>I love the sun
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>>103078218
>things apparently just work
lol
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>>103078271
this you?
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>>103066226
See if any local hospitals need entry level technicians. I had a hard time breaking through with knowledge but not enough experience, just got hired on at a local hospital. Everyone else had no IT background and they just have me shadowing the other technicians to teach them shit.
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>>103078271
Isn't it supposed to be black?
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>>103075932
ive never wondered before if voluntary commitment would be a good idea because i've been involuntarily committed to a psych ward before for only a few hours and it was teh stupidest experience of my life but i wonder if shelling out for one of those residential rehab places that's basically a hotel but you have a mommy that makes you go to a coding bootcamp or small engine mechanic tutorial or something on-site would be worth it
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>>103078378
Just kill yourself.
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work is so gay and retarded and boring.
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>>103078578
>>>/utwg/
kill yourself unemployed faggot
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>>103078578
I like where I work
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>give someone whos a junior like me a smll task
>I also do it to see how fast they work
>takes them 5 hours, 8x longer than me
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pov you're a sperg giving passive aggressive secret tests to your coworkers for nonexistent good boy points from nobody
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>>103078738
WHY ARE JUNIORS BAD AT THINGS AIEEEEEEEE WE HAVE TO HIRE MANPREET FOR THIS THEN
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>>103067725
Yes, discovering bugs with ns resolution timing is very easy to debug!
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>Company culture is focused on delivering working but not pretty code efficiently
>My autism and/or ADD keep taking over and I get distracted by things like making everything const correct or rewriting functions to be noexcept
>Leads tell me I write really good code, but I'm pretty sure I have some of the lowest metrics on the team, and I know which one management cares about more
How do I stop the brain worm and just get comfortable throwing ugly code out into the world as soon as it works?
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>>103070206
I kneel
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>>103074288
>Does Apple Watch allow me to take calls on my business iPhone from the wrist watch itself?
yes
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>>103065235
>Had internal nVidia recruiter reach out to poach me
Is this akin to having "won"?
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>>103078081
what u do in ur job exactly
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>>103078763
they have the same yoe as me (1)
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>>103065256
>>103065299
I don't get why he doesn't get banned for spamming his crap. Do you people report him?
I wonder if there is something behind his crap we don't know...
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>get laid off
>apply to 100s of shit the very same day
>get screening interview from one of those at pretty important company
why is the universe trying to give me false hope? im not falling for it
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>get phone call from recruiter
>sound confused that I applied for the position a month and a half before I graduate
>they're still going to interview me
I guess it's okay then if I can't start for another month?
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>Salary: No
w-what did they mean by this
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>>103080177
Wage.
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>>103078809
Realize that unless you have a large number of shares in the company, or have a pathway to the CEO position (you don't), it's literally not your problem.
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>>103078838
Whenever I have a recruiter message me I tell them I need remote and that always kills the conversation right there.
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Did everyone have a nice Diwali?
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Non-tech guy here, what's the proportion of normies (gf, wife, kids) and weird basement dwellers in this field? Is is a good place for losers or not really?
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>>103080824
It's still a team game so they do aim for employees who can work in a team.
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>>103067970
Voting Kamala not because I like her, but I work IT for the local government so I think she would overall help me earn more after all is said and done.
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I am bored at work every fucking day
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>>103081165
did you try gooning
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>>103080824
each other it guy ive met has been a normie. every single one. idk how actual programming is but the few i've met have been secret cryprobros and very fratboy-ish
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boomer bros, anyone else feels Zuck was right and young people are simply smarter? No, it is not the burnout and disinterest, even for topics I care about it simply takes more time to grok them. Also, I sound like a boomer in the process, why do young people overcimplicate things instead of aiming for KISS
Is this how IC careers stall? Time to switch over to mgmt?
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>>103081486
if you aren't almost retired by the time you reach senior you're retarded
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>>103081486
To me it feels like older people are smarter on average while the younger people are either brilliant or total morons.
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>>103081488
>senior engineers are retarded
Spicy take, but there is some trvth to it. I'm semi retired since covid put wfh on the map tyvm, it just pisses me off that my mental faculties are not what they used to be. I'm really grateful 99% of zoomers are completely useless and have a worse work ethic than me
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I did a PhD for 5 years, I worked 2 years as an academic researcher. During those 7 years, I have managed research projects, coded a lot, taught students etc. Now, I'm applying for jobs outside of academia. What should I state as my experience? What roles should I apply for? I kinda don't think that I should apply for the same jobs as some 21 year old bachelor graduates with literally zero experience.
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If I am a self taught dev and mainly program databases, sometimes work with C# and JS, would it be worth for me to learn assembly programming or doing a course in C compiler development?
I've found that learning low level stuff helps me understand how things work, where devs with degrees and more experience struggle to get it, but that has all been in relation to databases.
So I am not sure if learning assembly or C compiler programming would be worth it?
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>only guy i had any rapport with leaves
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>monday
fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
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>>103081996
Calm down Garfield.
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I HATE working.
Why am I even doing this? I'm a 37 year old virgin. What the fuck is the point?
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>>103082063
>20 years of work
>still not retired
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WHY DOES EVERY FUCKING BULLSHIT HELL DESK JOB REQUIRE A DRIVER'S LICENSE
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>>103081929
>and mainly program databases
You do SQL? That would be creating and querying databases, possibly even creating stored procedures for them, not programming them. Programming databases doesn't really make sense.
But no. That would be retarded, you don't even know C so why are you thinking about taking a course for its compiler? And why would you think learning assembly would help you when the lowest level language you assumedly know is C#?
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>>Tasks
>Supports social and labour market integration of newcomers and/or refugees (for example: facilitating access to community resources, language training, skills training, etc.)
>Offers mentorship programs that pair newcomers and/or refugees with experienced employees
>Provides diversity and cross-cultural trainings to create a welcoming work environment for newcomers and/or refugees
>Does not require Canadian work experience
Nani?
They've gone beyond not even hiding that it's an H1B esque scam. They are outright saying it in the job description.
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>>103082202
Can someone translate?
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>>103081926
you have to unlearn things, starting with your ego. If you have a relevant phd just try some data science / analyst job, ezpz and well compensated

>>103081996
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEIYHRxbk4k

>>103081955
>things finally going right
>there are skeletons to hide, so another business reorg is coming in January
hate this arc

>>103082063
get money to pay for pucci/bucci, there is no excuse to be a virgin@37
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Is a master worth it? I have a job
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>>103082254
>>Tasks
>import pajeets
>mentor pajeets
>pajeetify the workplace
>requires you be a pajeet
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>>103082260
Probably not. How would it help you? If you landed one job then there's a high chance you can land another so it's unlikely to help much in getting hired. If you're chummy with HR/the boss you could discuss it with them, ask them what they think about resumes with a masters instead of a standard degree.
You may get a slight pay bump I guess, you also might not.
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anyone have any advice on finding quick freelance work
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>>103082419
perish so you dont have to worry about anything anymore
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>>103082419
try visiting freelance.com and upwork.com
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>>103082419
Believe in yourself.
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>>103065235
why doesn't this neetcode faggot start /utwg/ instead of this general? why does he has to shit on THE general dedicated to TECH WORKERS with his useless spam?
THIS IS NOT A JOBS GENERAL, YOU FUCKING FAGGOT
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>>103082464
dont you have to upload your face to use those sites
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>>103082523
anon, stop being lazy and try checking by yourself.
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>monday
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they're moving our daily meeting from the end of the day to the start
dunno how to feel about this
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>>103082695
It's better that way, you can slack off the entire day after
Mine is at 11 am and I might get 2 more dailies because of new projects
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>>103082685
>>103081996
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>my weekly 8am monday meeting with indians in india to discuss india is now a weekly 7am monday meeting with indians in india to discuss india because indians don't observe daylight savings

humiliation ritual
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>>103082725
I want to sex sex sex left while right is put on a PIP
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>>103082759
good morning sir indeed
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>>103081996
>>103082685
>100% WFH
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>wfh
>gave notice on Friday
>never been more relaxed in my life

My team is gigafucked without me but thats not my problem.
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when will employers realize that "bilingual" is not a language and they can in fact just put multiple languages in this field
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>>103077990
Get rid of welfare, they'll die off on their own.
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>>103082800
God damn.
This is why "knowing the retarded in and outs of what HR is doing at big company XYZ" is an actual job people get paid for now.
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I got to interview in like a month for a internship so I tried Crack the Interview and got filtered so hard. What should I do instead? The internships are probably expecting retards cause it's like part of a school program for 16-18yr kids so I think I'll be fine if I don't master data structures and whatnot.
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>>103082523
I did that voluntarily. Unironically make your avatar a picture of you with a nice shirt and tie. It makes you seem more trustworthy.
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>>103083174
>>/utwg/
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>>103083491
I think that's a bait post.
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>>103082766
I like Right's boobs but she looks like the kind of girl you don't ever want to try to have a conversation with.
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>>103083501
she'd probably bitch about work despite being a 1x developer
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>>103078738
At one point you will find that this happens even if the other person is a senior. Especially if his name is Manpreet, but not only then.
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the amount of seething those looking for work generates itt is hilarious but makes me think that /g/ is now populated by demoralizing jeets
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>>103083550
Every tech forum is like 50% Indian now and I'm pretty sure 4chan is disproportionately black and jewish.
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vote for me for prime minister and i will revitalize the canadian tech industry by bringing back the arrow solely to bomb india
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>company looking for engineers
>inexperienced engineer is gatekeeping the position
how to make sure a role will never get filled
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>haha I shit every place online begging for work haha seething
hang yourself
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GOD I FUCKING HATE THE UNEMPLOYED
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>ghosted by recruiter
It's over
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>>103083853
I'm pretty sure most of those posts are just you same fagging. I'd report you for spam but since there aren't IDs I can't tell for sure.
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>>103083995
FUCK OFFFF
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slept through the all hands
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One of these days I'm gonna get a slack message that will make me stick a fork in an outlet
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>>103083853
I've been unemployed for about a year now. It's great.
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>applied to a bunch of shit on monday
>laid off on wednesday
>applied to a bunch of stuff on wednesday
>hear back from one for screening interview
>not sure if one of those I applied with resume saying i was working or not
fuck the HR bitch is gonna think im lying or something
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Why does coworkers leaving (for not enjoying their position) feel so weird? Because it's a confirmation of disfunction and it's only going to get worse from here?
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>job application insta-rejected at light speed
>CI/CD pipeline straight into the trash bin
zamn
i haven't sent out applications in a long time and i'm glad i'm employed
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been at a new corp for a month now and I already hate it so much just looking at my work PC ups my heartrate in a not-good way, can't even bring myself to do passion projects anymore
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finished all my fagman interview and the bar raiser guy said I did well
am I gonna make it /g/ros?
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>>103084988
welcome to the sweatshop
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>>103084282
Those things are such a fucking waste of time.
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>>103085124
im already sweatshopping at another company just not getting fagman pay
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Going to quit my job because my boss is a piece of shit. Any advice how to (legally) fuck with him?
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>>103085335
You sound like you need to relax.
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>>103085335
Just move on. Success is the best revenge.
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Man I fucking hate how outlook assumes network problems and auth errors are the same and just dumps your credentials on the floor when your vpn has issues.
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Interview in 2 hours, wish me luck :) it's the only high paying position that isn't government and/or requires several yoe so hopefully things go my way
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>>103085335
Have you lost other people recently? If so, be brutally honest in the exit interview and then leave because chances are he's already on thin ice.
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Why are recruiters so afraid of resume gaps?
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>>103085335
Find a new job and then leave. Don't leave before you find a new job.
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>>103085509
jail
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>>103085335
job market is pretty shit right now
also you don't want to burn any bridges
Do this:
>>103085512
just leave to a new job and smile
honesty doesn't pay when it comes to this crap
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>apply for a job
>they like my resume
>send me an excel sheet to fill out some information
>most of that was in my resume
>they ask for hobbies
Anon, what's worse? Saying "none" or being honest?
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>>103085597
Lying is almost always worse because you never know when you'll be found out.
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>>103085626
>Anon, you said you had hobbies, but being depressed at home and shitposting on 4chan isn't really a hobby. You lied during your application
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>>103085739
Download an aural training app and do five minutes of practice. Now you have a hobby sight singing.
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>>103085597
>>103085626
no this is stupid and gay you dont owe HRistas anything lie lie lie
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>>103085626
>because you never know when you'll be found out.
You think they're gonna pass the new guy's resume around the office and have everybody read it?
The only time there are possible consequences of lying is if they figure it out during the interview. You run a risk if you're making up entirely fake jobs that will red flag a background verification or lying about things you have literally 0 experience with and can't even BS about for 3 minutes. Anything else is open season
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>>103082202
It's kind of blatantly obvious at this point. I'm seeing tons of job postings crop up with @outlook emails for official businesses that definitely have their own mail domain. All of them have the same job description, salary, and everything. A few of these places are run by indians. It's all just a scam. I've reported these postings and the same exact ones pop up next month without any action being taken, it's fucking ridiculous.
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>>103085509
Even if only 10% of people with a gap have a bad reason for it (fired, jail, lazy, etc.), filtering every single resume with a gap:
>drastically reduces the number of resumes recruiters have to manually read
>guarantees they won't waste time interviewing someone with a rare "bad" gap
>still leaves enough resumes to find a suitable candidate
Basically, it makes the recruiter's job way easier with no noticeable downsides from the company's point of view, even if it's unfair to the candidate.

Say I get the following applicants:
>500 Indians
>10 suitable candidates with no gap
>the 9 best devs in the US, who just happen to have resume gaps
>1 convicted rapist

If I don't filter out resumes with a gap, I have to individually read 20 resumes and potentially call 20 people, and one of them (the rapist) is a complete waste of my time. If I filter everyone with a gap, sure, I'm losing 9 amazing candidates, but who cares? I still have 10 suitable candidates to sort through, and one of them will probably fill the role just fine.
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>>103085509
>>103086046
I got asked by tsa why i wasnt in the US for so long and if i had a job(wfh)…i guess not being utter cattle and stepping off the plantation for a few moments could be indicative of other potentially problematic behaviors
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>>103086046
I have a gap so in that case I guess I should just give up on this whole thing.
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>>103085509
>>103086095
how long of a gap is too much even?
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>>103086154
I'm coming up on 7 months myself but the market here is fucking dreadful and I just keep seeing the same postings pop up month after month. I think I need to move or something.
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>>103086095
I was effectively unemployed for many years but I had a good relationship with my part time employer for whom I did occasional projects so I just wrote I worked for them throughout that time.
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I am starting to hate my work more and more.
Only retards that cant follow any procedures. Mention that they cant follow procedures and get into a heated argument with the product owner.
Nothing is planned, trying to plan something far ahead is too much effort.
Only meetings where everyone disagrees and the one with the biggest mouth wins the argument.
Hopefully the job market in europe isnt too fucked, because I need to get away from this shithole
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Huge black guy who just joined my company came to see me today, asked me if I had free time to talk about something that wasn't work related. I was busy the whole day. I don't wanna know what this mofo wants.
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>>103086188
I had a really nice side-gig like that but I had to let them go because I was doing too many things at once.
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>ace an interview
>think I'm finally free from my shit job
>get lowballed hard by HR at the new place
Fuck this shit
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How to muster up the motivation to write a job application?
I really do not want to work.
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>>103086500
wtf is a job application
you click the things you upload resume you google autofill the forms and submit
if there's a cover letter you ask chat gpt to do it by copy pasting your resume and the posting
no writing involved
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Does regaine work?
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>>103086550
In the worst case you have to go there and sell yourself like a whore.
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>>103086500
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/eye-tracking-study-among-recruiters-how-pass-initial-resume-eekman
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>>103086630
Basically "be as brief as possible and repeat the keywords from the job ad".
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When interviewers ask if I have any questions is it appropriate to ask if the job posting that I'm there for is fake and if they are actually hiring for the position?
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whenever I try not to be a neet anymore, I can feel individual parts of me slowly evaporate
my ability to dissociate from events and think objectively about them degrades
I become most invested in the 'now'
my ego is suddenly involved in everything

I can literally feel myself become "the average"
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I do contract work unrelated to tech. If I say I did simple front end work which I can back up with my skills, do you guys think I will be caught?
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Anyone works in a company that use a lot of dell laptops?

Is it just me or these dell laptops have these major issues where one day they won't power on unless you hard reset it (take out battery, hold down power button, put battery back in)

Was like this in my previous place of work too with dell laptops
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>>103086822
My dell just uses 10% of its cpu without charger. It's fucking trash
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>>103085597
use claude to fill out that shit
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>"Hey anon we need you to put project C on hold so you can focus more on project A and B"
>alright
>1 month later
>"Hey why isn't C done?"
>you said to stop development
>"We didn't say put it on hold we just said not to work on it"
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>>103086848
you're conflating being a neet and being unproductive and lacking purpose or direction
see? you are "the average" and I'm afraid of becoming a creature like you
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> be me
> get a web designer gf
> she wants an online business selling website themes
> she would design, I would program
> already didn't have any ideas about what themes to do and didn't do shit to find out
> I did all the product research etc.
> we agreed to do a certain type of design that would sell
> she does a totally different design
> does it at such a shitty level that any youtube course follower could surpass it
> I could easily surpass it as a backend dev
> she is actually a good designer but lazy as fuck
do i just get a new gf?
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>>103087289
> I could easily surpass it as a backend dev
then do it yourself and shut the fuck up
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>>103087331
I don't want to, she wanted the fucking online business,
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>>103087263
>being neet and productive
do you understand what neet means, retard?
your retarded whore mother should have aborted you
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ahhh, what nice company we have here
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I am about to venture into the Cloud Computing/DevOps meme. Wish me luck.
[spoiler]is it worth it?[/spoiler]
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>>103066226
>Should I just lie on my resume?
That's what everyone else is doing. My company just hired two software engineers that literally know nothing. I'm pretty sure they used ChatGPT to create a resume. Our hiring manager is a fucking moron and not able to determine who is competent and who isn't
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>>103087371
are you just reading up on it or doing something like the cloud resume challenge?
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>>103087444
I am wiping my ass with your hair while you're asleep.
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>>103087486
Neetcode is having a 25% sale, but it's still pricey
Is it worth it?
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>>103087232
My current manager has done this to me multiple times, and I've only been in this role a few months.
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>>103087444
https://markdownpastebin.com/?id=b14d3fc82c8b46d780c1bbf219a1115f
I have this study plan and yes I have heard about the cloud resume challenge. I plan on doing that once I'm well read.
I hope the study plan isn't a meme. I asked chatGPT and claude for guidance.
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>>103087522
I don't think so.
I bought something on it last year and didn't use that shit once. Money down the drain.
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scrum master here. AMA
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>>103087590
Do you do anything other than scrolling the kanban board and taking screenshots of the jira reports?
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how do i fix my sink disposal thing it stopped turning on
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>>103087590
we don't have a scrum master and are in full chaos
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>>103087607
I fixed it by not renewing my lease and moving somewhere else.
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>>103087590
tits or gtfo
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>>103087590
kirin armor or nargacuga armor?
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>>103087345
>education, employment, or training
you can't even comprehend the concept of living life without someone else telling you what to do
tiny brained wagecuck
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>>103087682
if you knew, you wouldn't be here babbling bullshit about being productive when neet
please do the needful
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>>103087590
Should I use an exam dump to get a Professional Scrum™ cert, not because I want to be a scrum lord, but because I think it would be funny?
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>>103087623
you know a scrum master and a project manager are not the same thing, right? you don't need a jira, you need direction.
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migrate
>>103087762
>>103087762
>>103087762



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