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>Wikis
https://dmpdoc.neocities.org/
https://web.archive.org/web/20220330105340/https://rentry.org/dmpdoc
https://rentry.org/dmprockandroll/
https://mu-sic-production.fandom.com/wiki//mu/sic_Production_Wiki

>/g/ makes a 14th album
Theme: 90s Trance
Deadline: December 31st
Please post titles and/or cover art

>IMPORTANT! READ THIS BEFORE SUBMITTING:
Upload the file somewhere and post the link here. If you want to update your track, make a new post.
If possible use a lossless format and upload to a file-sharing service, not to a music site like Vocaroo or SoundCloud.
Include the title of the song in the post. Don't rely on us reading it from the filename or tags.
When you post the submission make sure that the song is clearly a submission for the album, otherwise it might get skipped.
Songs that contain anything against YouTube's policies won't be uploaded on YT (but will still be added to the album).
If your track's volume goes above 0 dB it will be clipped for the release.

>Where can I hear the previous albums?
https://rentry.org/dmpalbums

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A board dedicated to all aspects of music making and audio would be great for many reasons. Here's why:
https://pastebin.com/ZHXhfRZw
If you like the idea, let 4chan know at https://4channel.org/feedback (under Board Suggestion)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNgjOzkjk1k
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>>103087194
consider i will teach you how to make that sound, the real way.
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this will be a good thread
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>>103087155
>A board dedicated to all aspects of music making and audio would be great for many reasons
bro this has been pushed for like 5+ years? they're not going to do it. AI discussion got way bigger than music production discussion and they didn't make a containment board for that. instead they'd rather make another captcha, make you wait 10000 hours to post and force you to login
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>>103087241
I'm casting a circle of protection on this thread so the autistic sperg fights stop.
TMDWU
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>>103087194
about 155 bpm, is signature is sometimes delay an other times repeat on the off note but the push it so far up the main kicks ass, listen when they lower the base with filter you will hear the double knock, but it so fast your brain does not perceive it, thus is creates the illusion of a tribalistic beat and its very effective. lower the volume of the offbeat.

it can't possible take of the same and so effect is like one drum hits hard and takes up the others space, but your brain hears one cut out.
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>>103087278
Ai is a fad
It's going to be a niche topic sooner than later.
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>>103087361
but also heavy compression for sure and also side chain to effectively cause a sucking effect with the other percussion. swosh swosh fast you get the idea how its built
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but the basic effect of the hard techno kick drum i explained, its not side chain, its not even delay its more simple, its just 2 drums offfset like that.

but we could debat it all night
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compressor is most likely the fishing effect, it will cause the lowever kick to pump, but obviously the high kick will hit much harder if set 4/4 and to have higher velocity.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvIb2noPPvs

I'm coming back here because who didn't want to know?
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and you think you make that shit be my guest because you can't you little tard this shit will fucking melt your face off and keep you awake at night.
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>>103087383
i thought about ai today who it might help me, it might be ok for style transfer if lazy but no ai will never make music at all. it will fail there is no way aiu a fucking machine can ever create great music., it can't hear for a start it has zero empathy and people promoting it need to die....
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I mean have you ever heard this shit

https://youtu.be/xvIb2noPPvs?feature=shared&t=859

how can an ai even begin to understand? some things made by humans will never be understood by a stupid machine..., it won't know that is not really aggressive it won't know people aren't going to kill people, this the same for video actually, because if we have AI then everything a normie watched is problematic...
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i gonna leave i do not are anymore, i can find people that care anyday
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>>103087654
/mu/ /prod/ fags are maybe even worse, they lack basic human emotions, they say all music is shit or only some extremely niche music is good
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i am not gone forever i just need to obvious fork this thread because i am not gonna listen to dickheads that hold people back.

not today, but i do want to keep it comfy, no arguments, only knowledge, light banter whatever
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>>103087683
they are fucking stupid and its no change man it was always like this in a lot of places, its nothing new here.
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>>103087683
but i am not gonna let them every fucking effect me like they did before because they bully people that are new and well who are these people?


but this is literally what people must deal with, its pathetic
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i won't say hat, just come to my page once its up here we can talk and shit and continue, if they move in i will sue them for sure.
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but not brake uk law in my place or you will be banned
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yes now we must talk like primitive to match laws of land so they can never do shit lolol
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you do not trust, well it does not matter really you already tagged

oh believe me they did
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvIb2noPPvs
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>>103085955
^I'm still waiting for feedback on this.
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posting quality is in the toilet and the mods do butt-fucking nothing about it for weeks. Amazing.
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>>103088022
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>>103088259
look at yourself in the mirror, at least one anon got banned because of something he posted while trolling me
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Posting this 'Massive only' brostep tutorial I shared several threads ago and sharing what I made from it
also sharing the .flp again if anyone wants to steal the presets (as it can only be found buried years deep in a dead trannycord)

I started from scratch, with most of the tutorial presets and a few of my own, copied the exact arrangement, used a different key, and made my own solos and drops

I'll say I know the drops are a bit busy, was just having fun with it I guess

https://voca.ro/16Llj9lOigG6


Tutorial (timestamped for 1:22:44 to hear what was made)
https://youtu.be/i6GVHNYxYYY?t=4964

the flp of the video above
https://files.catbox.moe/u0jlrm.zip
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>>103088216
I think it has come along great, very early 90's, sounds good
if you want a little more movement for a better build up with that saw lead entering @1:24 a few bars before the drums, you should have either a low or high pass filter slowly opening up on it from its entering until the drums come in

made an example for you with a high pass sweep
https://vocaroo.com/1fvZRfJdj4OS
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>>103088317
actually insane, if only you dropped this in 2014
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>>103088317
Btw if you’re interested in that sound the actual trick is to do something *like* that (actually using fm8 but whatever), bounce that, then throw it into ableton sampler for further fm and loop fuckery into the obvious chains (stock ableton still).
Then print and chop THAT.

Skrillex told me
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>>103088728
Yup, I've found similar tutorials
All it takes is to FM one osc with another, a 1 octave pitch bend, throw a vocoder on it, maybe some morphing eq too, and like you said the trick is to bounce to audio and stretch/pitch shift to your liking
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what are the best studio monitors 100 USD and under? I don't really care if they're closed back or not.
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>>103089277
doesn't exist, need more money
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>>103089277
used rokits on ebay
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>>103089312
>>103089316
meant headphones as studio monitors
I have to stay quiet because I have an infant and don't want her screaming at 2am when I'm dicking around.
basically are the Sony 7506 the gold standard or should I get something else
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>>103089333
yes, those are great. using them now and have used them for 10+ years
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>>103089334
thanks pal
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>>103089334
https://www.sonarworks.com/blog/reviews/sony-mdr-7506-studio-headphone-review
>The high THD in the bass adds coloration
maybe this is why anon tards think there's nothing wrong with KSI thick of it
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>>103089333
they're fine. you should be checking mixes on other devices anyway, don't get sucked into headphone faggotry
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>>103089340
ah quick warning though, eventually the material on the earpads starts flaking off so you'll probably end up buying some velour, fabric, or headphone softie in a few years
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>>103089354
yeah headphone fags have literally zero chance to make anything higher tier than six impala or drain gang type of junk
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are vocaloids worth the money?
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>>103089466
Only Miku
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QajL3MgloEs
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>>103089466
only if you know enough japanese to use one, and even then some other vocaloid-ish stuff is a bit better like cevio
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>>103089466
Synthesizer V seems to be much better, but Vocaloid has its famous shitty sound which can be desirable.
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Archlinux, amdgpu, running FL studio through wine
Does anyone know how to fix this? It only happens with the inter-flstudio windows, not the real ones like the settings menu. It's annoying because otherwise it works fine...
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>>103092016
>Archlinux
cmon lil bro this is like trying to be a photographer or graphic designer and being hellbent on using gimp instead of photoshop/illustrator. get a real computer and pirate windows 11
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i am tempted to waste $100 on some meme humbuckers for my strat
how do i save money? i wanted to buy used but duncans and dimarzios are legit like $90+ second hand and i dont know any other brand
i was thinking of getting ibanez OEM pickups or some shit like that but i cant find any
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if you arne't using Reason you're a pleb. Logic and pro tools are for people who need hand holding, and obvious Cubase is for scrubs. And FL? Don't get me started. Use reason and learn it well. Can't stick it? Learn a guitar or something because this aint your bag. There is literally no (0) reasons not to use Reason in 2024.
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Friendly reminder that (((analog))) and (((warm))) are just scam buzzwords to make you buy stupid and bloated shit. Stock plugins suffice.
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>>103093278
I sold a "warm" synth vst for 15 dollars a pop. It was a re-rigged Sylenth preset with a looping sample of white noise buried in the mix. Trick of the trade? Maybe. Sold about a dozen before someone cottoned on.
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>>103093302
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>>103092016
Bitwig and Studio One (Beta) work natively on Linux. Why the fuck would you use this toy of a DAW?
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>>103092016
werks on my debian machine. if its too annoying try ardour cause you're on fl studio trial anyway
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>>103092016
https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=41226
>* Some VST plugins flicker (Vital) or don't update GUI (some SWAM plugins)
try version 20 maybe it doesn't list this problem
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Is using high passed reverb with different spacial features a good strategy to highlight transient info between different sounds/instruments? My reverb game is non-existent, I might give it a try sometime since I've only been focusing on getting complexity out of simple oscillators.
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>>103093596
>transient info
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>>103093735
Huh?
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>>103088216
this reminds me of early 90s clan of xymox when guy ditched all his band mates and tried to sound new age eurodance because it was trendy at the time
you should be able to go goth rock after this... eventually. good luck
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>>103092016
>running FL studio through wine
sorry i need low latency kernel benefits, why would i gimp myself when native daws on linux exist like reaper
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>>103093189
>how do i save money?
by getting better at playing. what makes sound meaty, are the rhythm parts tightly double tracked together, not better humbuckers
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>>103093596
>high passed reverb
>good strategy
no
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>>103095428
it also reminds me of sims 1 superstar loading screen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDF4dz4bkzQ
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>>103095468
yeah but better humbuckers wont be fucking noisy and i will actually be able to tell notes apart
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>>103087155
Hello frens. I am severely retarded but full of passion.
I have an Ibanez RG1570, a (((Steinberg))) USB audio interface, kickass monitors and a bunch of software (Line 6 Helix, Amplitube, Guitar Rig etc).
But I don't know the ropes. Can you point me in the right direction? I need some simple resources to learn the basics of signal processing from guitar to loudspeaker and how normal people normally use their instruments and software to obtain the desired sound.
I don't really need to record, I just want to play, but I constantly feel like I'm missing on basic, universal knowledge that would make the process of learning x10 better
Thank you. Me in picture.
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>>103095766
sounds like snr issue. i never had problems with noise even on single coil
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>>103093596
Rephrase because what
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>>103093405
Because it's what I've used forever
I've checked out reaper but it's definitely more for real instruments. I guess i'll check out bitwig


>>103093439
I was going to solve the cracking issue later

>>103093553
>>don't update GUI (some SWAM plugins)
Hmm... This sounds similiar, but my problem isn't related to plugins...
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>>103092016
werks on bottles
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>>103093278
Surge XT, a based Free and Open Source synth, has a drift option that makes it sound analog by adding slight instabilities to the pitch, while warmth can be added to pretty much everything by boosting the midbass a bit, just not to the point of making it sound muddy
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>>103089277
Secondhand ones, failing that check: https://www.musicradar.com/news/best-budget-studio-monitors
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>>103096167
>Surge XT
when they overhaul the gui i will use the shit out of it
literally unusable
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>>103088570
Oh, good idea!

https://vocaroo.com/17gJqlrxAls9

Now, I 'could' continue this track, make it longer, add a dozen different sounding sections à la Guru Josh or alter the whole beat to sound more late-90's, but I got other personal projects to work on. This will be the last time I'll be taking feedback, and then I'm gonna post my final mix for the album.
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>>103095966
ESL, ESL, sorry... I meant reverb busses: sound>high pass>reverb, because I wonder if it's what they do in the tracks I find interesting. They don't have muddy tails.
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>>103096632
You can download some decent skins for it, however if you're struggling with understanding it's layout then maybe analog labs would be better suited for you
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>>103093189
doubtful that pickups are the issue here instead of your signal chain being set up properly. your interface gain should be turned up until just below it clips. strum really hard on whichever pickup configuration is louder and when it stops clipping, your gain should be properly set
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>>103096857
holy fuck they just sound bad is this hackernews they're the cheapest fucking $5 chinkshit pickups i'm not retarded can you answer my fucking question
yeah no shit i know that if it flashes red then it's too loud you fucking moron
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>>103092016
Since this is some weird graphics issue, have you tried ProtonGE instead of Wine? You can get ProtonGE without Steam via ProtonUp-Qt, I heard this works well with FL Studio and Ableton.
https://davidotek.github.io/protonup-qt/
Also check out WineASIO if you haven't already, apparently lets you achieve low latency, no idea though since I don't need it.
https://github.com/wineasio/wineasio
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>>103096894
>i'm not retarded
doubt this, you probably play like shit which is why everyone thinks it's not the pickups. post a clip
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>>103096981
what if i play like shit and the pickups also suck dick is that too complex of a concept for your puny nigger brain
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>>103097010
>ask how to save money
>not receptive to anything but saving money
go off, retard
buy those pickups since that's what you wanted to do before you even asked the question
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>>103097100
anything but spending money*
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>>103097100
i wont buy them theyre too expensive i just want something that's higher quality than i'd get off aliexpress but isn't fucking $300 for a set holy fuck i know iron gear i would be fine with it but they dont ship to EU do you have a brain tumor or is this binary fucking brain of yours just the product of your mental retardation why the fuck are musicians such retarded cocksuckers can't you not answer the fucking question like a human being
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>>103097135
>retarded, mad yuropoor
how nice of you to leave out any fucking relevant information until now
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>>103097165
>NOOOOO DONT SPEND MONEY
>NOOOOO DONT SAVE MONEY YOU'RE POOR
what is your point exactly what are you replying for you literally have nothing to say
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>>103093189
If cheap is what you want buy a handful of those chinkshit humbuckers and rig up some alligator clips for easy testing. It's just wire coiled around some magnets brother. But SD's are literally a snob's 'budget' option, so if you're looking at SDs and dimarzios and kvetching at the price maybe you should reconsider your attitude and/or hobby. I was once in the camp of expensive pickups, but now my favorite pickups are single coils that some EE guy I met wound for me for like $35 and a pint. if the guitar is noisy it might not be the pickups, could also be the output jack or a bad soldering job on a pot. I have dealt with many problem guitars and while I've never seen yours I can tell you that usually a bad pickup is actually a dead one and not that it's causing noise - and if it is, usually it's the shielding and not actually the pickup. Also this has nothing to do with the production of digital music unless you are sampling your guitar so kindly fuck off to the cesspit that is /gg/, good day.
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>>103096632
to each his own, for me it's quite intuitive and lets me make new patches fast
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>>103097283
it's not intuitive in the macro sense, but the micros (namely the sliders) make it objectively shitty and ugly

even the plugin schizo agrees with me
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>>103096824
it's really not THAT bad when you go through a video that explains what's going on, but it's so fucking ugly all the time, how do you even get the inspiration to top the sounds from guys like Skrillex, Noisia, KOAN Sound, etc
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>>103097960
Slap a load of effects on it.
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>>103096135
>I've checked out reaper but it's definitely more for real instruments
no. it's for literally anything music. i bet you looked at it for 5 seconds and nearly had a mental breakdown. reaper is easy to use and shits on many daws.
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>>103096632
extreme skill issue

>>103097598
ultra extreme skill issue

how the FUCK do get filtered by surge? lmao.
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>>103098242
not them, but the lack of stock instrument plugins definitely makes it more of a bring your own/not meant for electronic production than other daws. i know way more people who do mixing/master in it than make music within i
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>>103098266
> but the lack of stock instrument plugins definitely makes it more of a bring your own/not meant for electronic production than other daws
"stock instrument plugins" have always sucked. i've always had access to a vast library of VSTs so i never use what comes with any daw and i don't even think of it.
> i know way more people who do mixing/master in it
yes, it's good for that too.
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>>103098299
>"stock instrument plugins" have always sucked
false but you're an over-opinionated retard, to be expected
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>>103098262
I am literally objectively the most skilled synth user here.
I have SO much skill. An extreme amount.
People are always telling me.
Last thread, it was a good thread, several anons complimented me on my sound design.
One anon specifically pointed out, he said “anon, you have so much skill.”
It happens all the time, people observing how much skill I have.
These people, these trolls, there aren’t many of them but they are there, who would say things like somebody like me doesn’t have skill? They’re not people, schizos. Most of them are bots, training. ZEE ROE proof behind these claims.
Anybody with ears would tell you how much skill I have, it’s unmistakeable if you just listen.
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>>103098353
> false
100% true.

>>103098377
> wall of text to demonstrate just how filtered he is by a free vst
ultra giga skill issue.
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>>103089466
you can get them free from the internet
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>>103098377
Future pasta, thanks.
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>>103098353
even most third party plugin devs don't even get the sound quality right
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>>103098473
I'M the one that will use this pasta
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>>103093405
Actually I tried out bitwig and it's actually quite nice, I'll probably just sidestep the issue by switching
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>>103098377
not bad
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>>103099341
based. really the most thing people from fl tend to miss is the piano roll. next bitwig main update (6.0) is going to be a very important one because of some problems they're having with the community and their history of updates, they'll show if they're with the users of if they're making a daw for their close friends to play with. so if you're thinking about switching right now I'd wait for 6.0. I have my list of things I'd want to see, if they don't even bring one of those things and just keep making grid or live performance updates then I'll consider leaving desu
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>>103099990
not her, but i'm not paying for a yearly update with shitwig
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>>103099990
they seem autismal and overhyped like rust trannies when you can just stick with C++ instead of rust
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>>103100077
if you're not her then why you're giving your opinions, tranny. I know what you want, you want attention right, you little bitch, post your cock
also it's only yearly if you want
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>>103099990
>>103100077
I was just going to crack it
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>>103100204
>like rust trannies when you can just stick with C++ instead of rust
ableton is rust in this case doe? they even have an official theme in tribute of a tranny
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>>103100467
seething esl tard
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>>103100510
didn't ask for a description of yourself
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>>103100496
>an official theme
Srsly? Changing "master" to "main" was p sus, but now this?
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>>103096894
unironically check the cable. i had niche issue where i thought balanced cable would give me less noise, but turned out build quality was shit so it gave me noise instead, then i tried a better quality unbalanced cable and signal was as clean as baby's ass.
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>>103100496
according to this logic was trannoid
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>>103101204
What is being conveyed by the Reaper image?
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>>103101216
that you're based beyond human beliefs
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>>103101204
Half of these are completely random
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Cubase 14
https://www.steinberg.net/cubase/new-features/
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>>103102700
lmao they hardcore copied Studio One
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>>103102700
> $892.00
no thanks.

>>103102706
looks like it.
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made this https://voca.ro/1bLqxahmatoT (embed)
its supposed to be a daft punk like track but i dont like the bass melody and i dont really know how to make it better :/ also how do you make a 303 melody that doesnt sound like absolute shit? im using transistor bass from fl to make it
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>>103101204
renoise chads rise up
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>>103097271
holy fuck why do you bother replying i already got told to stop being le poor third worlder or to stop being le rich gearfag because everything is the same you literally told me nothing
>>103101198
most of the noise is ground loop i want to replace them because they have 0 low end and they sound like these EMG active humbuckers with gorillion overtones so you cant hear what note youre playing
and single coils ARE noisy by design so it's definitely not soldering job
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>>103102852
>> $892.00
Mine is for free
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>>103102858
your bass is out of key with the sample, and then you're adding 303 which is also out of key. i can sort of make out the original bassline you filtered out. here's what i would do:
https://voca.ro/19wnhzR2E3E2
forgive the instrument used, i'm too tired to try.
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>>103102948
extreme gigachad knows what's up
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>>103103129
i may or may not be tone deaf
maybe i fucked up when i pitched the sample up but yeah yours sounds way better
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do you think kanye has ever owned a modular synth
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>>103103290
>maybe i fucked up when i pitched the sample up
don't worry about it friend. when it comes to making basslines for sampled stuff like that it helps to follow the original to some degree, doesn't have to be exactly the same, just in the right key of what was originally used, so if you do change the pitch of the sample you can easily change the pitch/transpose everything else and it will still fit in nicely.
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>>103103315
he might have sampled them.. who knows. kanye's main bits of kit for most of his career (as far as i'm aware) was ensoniq asr-10 and various akai mpc models.
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>>103102700
the score upgrade actually looks worth it
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>>103102937
>most of the noise is ground loop
so get rid of the ground loop wtf
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>>103101204
>FL studio
kek
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>>103102937
use laptop on dc if you have ground problems. that fixes it. sucks laptops lost native line-in interface, big fucking jew poz of removing hardware i/o
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>>103103315
i have no source and i'm not looking it up but i'd immediately suspect some sounds that made it on to yeezus from daft punk being at least ms-20, so semi-modular.
There's tons of analog stuff across his discography, modular isn't really a stretch at all.
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>>103105096
literally how i would gladly do that
>>103105307
yes i'm going to sell my entire pc setup just to get a shitty laptop so i can plug my guitar into it without -80dB hiss i can gate
i have an interface btw
i mean the single coils are definitely noisy as fuck the humbucker is not that big of an issue but i want to have an alnico one because ceramics are le bad or something
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>>103102324
you must be a 5'3 micro manlet
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>>103106044
Huh?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAwpMTlE6z8
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>>103106044
Nta but can you make fun of me too?
I’m 5’ 5 I use ableton :3
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>>103106559
Question in the comments
>Not going to mix in Ableton or Master? Why not?
His answer
>i don't know a single pro engineer who uses live as their DAW of choice. most of my clients do though to produce electronic music, which is why i gave it an A rating. but it lacks pro level render features and workflow, the audio engine may also be a bit iffy, but i need to check that
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>>103087155
what is the smallest keyboard size viable for someone trying to learn piano?
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>>103106655
61 full size keys
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>>103106602
i'd actually be very interested in anything that has to do with the sound quality of the audio engine, it's one thing if the built in synths/plugins are meh but if the DAW itself is suboptimal then that's a major drawback
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>>103106662
this is what i've read as well for two-handed playing
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>>103106699
the bigger the better, really doesn't make sense to skim until you know what you're doing and can get away with something smaller
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>>103106707
skimp*

also weighted or semi weight too makes a big difference in feel
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>>103106690
Yeah same.
Also if the version number is divisible by 7 then it's just not viable for me. I've missed out on some work due to mot being able to open projects from clients when I was still on version 9 or 14 or whatever, but I can't risk it so ot is what it is I guess.
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>>103106745
5* not 7 my bad
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glad that the orange nigger man won over the literal nigger bitch
music production software suite for this feel?
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>>103107077
i only threw up once lul :[
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>>103107114
based, no more shitty le sound design and breakcore
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>>103107155
huh?
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>>103107114
You were in so much distress about the election that you threw up?
Are you an illegal alien or something?
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>>103106690
one big thing is ableton has PDC issues for like 10+ years, and I know a few plugin devs have been asking to fix it all this time but ableton would rather change master to main



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