>>103086965
>1080p: RTX 4070 Super, RX 7700 XT
shit op, do not engage

Any 1080p 27" (non curved) monitor suggestions aside from the ones in the OP?

>>103086965
are anime figures good for you

>>103087021
no, should be noid figures in there instead

>>103087002
why would you want a 27 inch 1080p monitor, 1440p isnt even expensive anymore

Whenever I have Rivaturner running and the game I'm playing is capped at 60 fps, but it constantly shows 59 fps, I tilt off the face of the earth

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>>103086965
Baguette here.
I'm getting more and more tempted to do a full upgrade from my now 10 year old build that sports a 4970K and a GTX 970.
I wanna use my new build to play games at 1080p120 natively if possible, experiment with AI slop generation, and I would like it to last at least 5 years.
I've come up with this so far (by mostly following the shit in the OP template): https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/jDBzKq
Budget would be around EUR 1500-2000 max.

I've got a few questions about this build:
- I intend to reuse my old PSU, which is an EVGA SuperNova 750W G2, as well as my old case (Phanteks Enthoo Pro, which is full size). I assume the case will be fine, but what about the PSU?
- Are the specs or any of the components overkill or overpriced for the use cases mentioned above?
- Should I wait for Nvidia to announce the 50xx series GPUs, since specs/prices seem to have begun leaking?

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>>103087021
add ontop of your gpu for maximum hotspot contact pressure. balance with underwight from the bottom like a lego.

>>103087056
Because I'm still budget minded when it comes to the hardware, though I guess you can run 1080p on a 1440 screen if needed?

>>103087021
>>103087107
heat + pvc sounds like a bad combo

>>103087123
pvc melts at 100c. if your gpu plate got that hot it would burn your finger.

>>103087123
good substitute for estrogen

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copypaste of my post from prev bread: Pic rel is my current desktop(first ever build from nov '21)
I've been itching to consoom for it by either throwing a 4070(ti?) super in it and possibly changing to a 5800x3d if needed.
Are my current components still decent by todays standards that a new GPU and possibly CPU will keep it relevant for the next 3+ years? or should i just bite the bullet and start a whole new build entirely?
Also, i'll need to get a1440p monitor since i've been using a 1080p

>>103087069
Looks decent.

>I assume the case will be fine, but what about the PSU?
Case yes but I wouldn't reuse a 10-year-old PSU. That's about the age where god ones start dying from wear. Course there's always a chance it'll outlive you - I have an XFX unit from 2011 that still mostly runs - but it's a big risk for the sake of €100.

>Are the specs or any of the components overkill or overpriced for the use cases mentioned above?
The mobo and SSD are overkill but workable.
Also obviously try not to spend €500 on a 7800X3D. If you are prepared to pay that then wait for the 9800X3D in like 3 days.

>Should I wait for Nvidia to announce the 50xx series GPUs, since specs/prices seem to have begun leaking?
Up to you. I'd expect February 2025, at the earliest, for the 5070Ti class to launch so you'll be waiting a while.

>everyone upgrading for wilds when it's been shown the only systems to reliably run it at 7800x3d/14900k tier cpu and 4090 tier gpu
Lmao

>>103087109
Yes, I do this very moment because my thinkpad x230 vga output wouldn't go over 1080p.

>>103087109
you should go 24 inch max with 1080p

>>103086965
Xiaomi G Pro 27i, should be on 1440p monitor recommendations

>>103087196
I love frame generation and upscaling to get 1080p 30fps and low poly models, don't you?

Which is easier to use NT-H1 or H2, I need to repaste my graphics card its getting spicy. Just want to know which is more spreadable.

>>103087149
> i'll need to get a1440p monitor
AOC Gaming 27" Q27G2S/EU IPS QHD 165Hz 1ms
I got it for little over 200 from computeruniverse. Who needs more?

>>103087267
the best part is the framegen is broken in-game. you get a better experience using driver level framegen from amd or lsfg.

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>>103087267
I love Monster Hunter 64!

>>103087149
the 5900x is technically better than the 5800x3d, since it has more threads, but like maybe 2 games might benefit from the 3d cache.
1080p and 1440p is basically the same resolution when you enable upscaling (if you are not using performance upscaling, it's more like in-between 1080p and 1440p).
I would only consider a new monitor to be a valuable upgrade if you have a 60fps 1080p monitor, or it just has really bad response time, or you really want a dual monitor setup. Otherwise the monitor is probably going to be pretty much the same, IPS / TN technology has not really increased much (unless you go with mini-led but it's more for gaming / movie people who really care about inky blacks in super dark scenes, you might find yourself disabling local dimming while not gaming due to the halo effect being annoying).
You should only buy a new GPU if you are willing to spend $600 to get around 2x the fps you currently get.
That's not bad (you get what you pay for), but you should ask yourself what type of games you currently cannot play at an acceptable FPS since the 6600 XT should be able to hit pretty much all AAA games at around 100fps at 1080p low settings, and non AAA games at 200+fps.

>>103087069
>235€ mobo
retard
>7800x3d like a week before 9800x3d
>130€ 1tb ssd
>920€ 4070ti super
you're one dumb nigger

https://www.reddit.com/r/PcBuild/comments/1gjk6b0/i_told_my_wife_that_i_want_a_divorce_and_she/

Redditor's wife threw his PC out a window and broke it LMAO

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>>103087448
>the 5900x is technically better than the 5800x3d, since it has more threads, but like maybe 2 games might benefit from the 3d cache.
Nice shitpost
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss7WEmRtsoE
5900x is not a gaming cpu

>>103087149
5700x3d+4070tisuper should keep you very comfortable for 3+ years.
5900x + 4070tisuper will likely be fine

don't bother with a 5800x3d because they're basically unobtanium at this point & only marginally better than 5700x3d

>>103087512
>What might still work ?
his ex wife to pay that PC back, probably

>>103087069
Since you are gaming on 1080p and you want it to last 5 years, you don't need €1500 to do that, let alone €2000.
https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/2XwD4p

The 7800X3D stock is being squeezed so it is massively overpriced right now. It was like €325 in the summer. I would not buy it.

If you want the system you selected you can last to 10 years but, get a cheaper motherboard, and get the 4080 Super instead.

Let me know if you still have any questions.

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>>103087512
that GPU sag is brutal

>>103087021
yes, just like coffee

>look at gaming monitors
>99% don't have an adjustable stand
Am I the weird one for wanting it?

>>103087512
Please go back

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Fellas...it arrived.
>it doesn't use shitty material that can unravel like the original premium sleeved cables
>nice and bendy
I'll be using it on my 5090.

>>103087613
My KTC monitor came with a stand that does Swivel Tilt Height Pivot Adjustment and every other monitor feels shit without it.

>>103087613
yea because any sane person is using a monitor mount

>>103087569
what would you recommend for 1440p then?

>>103087613
No. I should be a requirement, really. I've never owned a monitor that wasn't adjustable. I got genuinely surprised when I realised that my work monitor wasn't adjustable.

>>103087149
aside from it being mini itx and having a 6600xt, I'd personally say it's fine. who cares if the r9 5900x isn't specifically for gaming, most anon is going to use his pc for is 1440p if he gets a new monitor. side note not sure why it says it's only 3.7Ghz, can easily get to 4.2 without overclocking

>>103087519
>min framerate
>2 games are under 144fps
>of which one 5900x wins and one 5700x wins
> 5900x wins in a playable game, 5700x3d wins in failing company slop
The load is going to change over the years as it always has, 5 years from now 5900x is gonna have better lows, in 2-3 years, who knows.

5700x3d is a great budget gaming CPU. Yes on average, now, it will outperform a /g/ CPU like 5900x, although your picture doesnt show it. And gaymen isn't important, performance is. Later when you upgrade 5900x will make a good server for many years to come.

>>103087395
>>103087448
interesting considerations on whether an upgrade to 1440p is worth it. I've never really experienced anything nicer in terms of graphics than what i have currently
>>103087519
i appreciate the input. I guess i'll stick with my current cpu and just invest in the new gpu for now. Do you think my 600w psu will be enough btw?

>>103087519
>5900x is not a gaming cpu
it seems pretty meh, just like all cpu's above $200, it's crazy you can even compare the CPU to a 12400f or 3600x, but the big difference between the 5900x and 5800x3d is the core count which matter if you were doing non gaming stuff like building code or CPU codecs / etc, so I find it pretty sad to think you would waste $300 on a CPU that is slower.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-5800x3d/16.html

>>103087170
Thanks for your help Anon, I'll nab a new PSU then.

>>103087569
Thank you too, I'll look into your suggested build as soon as I can and will check back later.

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>>103086965
I love these small shitty cases like you wouldn't believe. Good for flipping spare parts PCs

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>>103087673
>>min framerate
you feel min framerate more

>>103087642
A 7600(X) and a 7900 GRE

>>103087451
I don't mind you calling me a retarded nigger (i probably am), but do you have any suggestions? What should I swap those for? (besides the CPU for which I'll wait for)

>>103087704
>i'll stick with my current cpu
Good, it's insane to change from a 5900x to a 5800x3d (or worse), at best it's a sidegrade and if you're a /g/ user it's a downgrade.

>>103087704
>upgrade to 1440p is worth it
Certainly worth it, the biggest advantage is you can then go up to 27" size and fit 50% more stuff on your screen, for games you can see a lot more detail as well. No point in upgrading your GPU if you're gonna stay at 1080p. Although I suggest making the jump to 4k, you will never go back.

i had this Fractal node 202 case lying around and gonna pair it with a with a rog strix 1200 lga motherboard and a 650 sfx psu. Gonna connect it to my big ass tv mainly for gaming, streaming sports etc and emulating. What gpu should i get?

>>103087069
>>103087795
7800x3d is ok but ONLY if you really want max FPS and lower settings (like 200+fps) and have a screen to display that.

SSD is overpriced, get a cheap NVME one (should be less than €80). The speed doesn't affect you at all. So samsung SSDs are not durable or reliable. Or get a 2TB one.

GPU is fine, prices are high in EU.

>>103087707
>https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-5800x3d/16.html
oh no my cpu isn't getting me 300fps it's only 250fps. in some games anyway. others on here are pretty damn close, when they show the 5900x and not the 5800x.
personally, the 5900x is just fine for me as I'm not solely playing games on it (def not just new games, as shown in that link the 5900x had better performance than the x3d in cs:go so other source games likely have similar performance).
anyway, unless you care greatly about getting 50+ more fps in games that you're already getting over 100fps in(on 1080p at least, on 1440p and 4k the differences in fps were pretty minimal at best according to that same review and testing) there's not going to be a big reason to get the 5800x3d if you already have a 5900x like >>103087149 does

>>103087863
I would take 2475 Head-Mounted Display Zones over a measly 2.475 gigahertz any day.

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I ordered a tomahawk but well this is worthless.
Will amd gift us a game with 9800x3d?

>>103087569
4080 is literally 4070 TiS

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I need a quality reliable machine (preferably a laptop) that can run Baldur's Gate 3. I also research and invest in stocks but im new to it so if you have any experience and can tell me if i might need a more powerful machine lmk. No budget. Please give me recs for a big quality (curved?) monitor as well. ive never had a curved monitor. What's your opinion on them?

>>103087900
Don't they still give Spess Muhrine 2?

>>103087931
Curved is a meme that only starts making a bit more sense for humongous screens. If you are doing stonks get a second monitor.

>>103087750
I'm upgrading my CPU (Ryzen 3600 to 5700X3D), RAM (16 gig 2666mhz with RGB to attract flies to 32 gig 3200mhz), and later, my GPU (5600XT to either a 6800XT or a 7700XT). Does it make sense to put together my old stuff with a cheap case, mobo, and power supply, and try to sell it to someone on and Facebook Marketplace as a 1080P gaming PC? Could I even break even after buying mobo, PSU, and case? Christmas is coming up and there are lots of people that want to get their retarded kid/teen a "Gaming PC".

>>103087935
yeah if you buy a cpu,gpu, or laptop.

>>103087900
> gift us a game
One that we can't torrent? I'm listening.

>>103087947
> Does it make sense to put together my old stuff with a cheap case, mobo, and power supply
No, it wouldn't be profitable, rather the contrary, unless you already got some case, mobo, and power supply that you no longer need. Try to sell the components separately.

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>>103087935
>>103087975
Nevermind I found the website https://www.amdrewards.com
And it looks like the campaign is over for now.

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im getting kinda hyped to put my hands in one of these, is it worth it brudis?
my mobo has a realtek 897 this card has a realtek 1200X for what i read on the web, its a huge difference, does anyone here have experience with sound cards?

>>103088022
Sound cards are still a thing?

>>103088022
> experience with sound cards?
Yes, with Soundblaster 16/32 kek

>>103088022
>does anyone here have experience with sound cards
not since computers needed them for quality midis

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>dual monitor with one being 1440p and the other 1080p
I will feel like a true poorfag but the 1080p monitor will just be for playing videos and music or misc stuff while working, so I'm excited

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>>103087021
go for it

>>103087829
Thanks!
I'm aiming for 1080p at 120/144 fps locked (as much as possible) and native at the moment, if that helps. Might upgrade to 1080p240, but that would be later.

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>>103088087
>>103088064
>>103088053
are you guys serious? theres no way in hell this cards dont BTFO tge mobo audio

>>103087829
>So samsung SSDs are not durable or reliable
wut? dont they pretty much make the best SSDs out there? along side micron's crucial?

>>103088197
ok audiophile

>>103088093
>180hz
why not the 240 that was on sale for $500 a few days ago?

>>103088232
probably because that's double the price

>>103088197
mobo audio is kinda dead. more and more people are using bluetooth audio instead it has gotten really good with bt 5.0. the range covers the whole house and backyard, battery life is over a week long, dolby atmos quality audio.

if you must used wired headsets then get a DAC.

>>103088207
The controllers often fail suddenly, and their "lifetime warranty" is a complete false advertisement depending on where you live.
I have intel, crucial and samsung SSDs and the newest one was samsung and it failed, and warranty is hell. Searching around, tons of other people with the same experience.
Their high end SSDs sure have good performance but that's not something that matters for gaming and 99% of desktop use, and they're better used in a datacenter where someone else is responsible for replacements when they fail.

>>103088232
Thats a lot of my precious maple dollars, but also idk if I really do anything atm that is worth the higher refresh rate.
If I was still addicted to league it might be a different story

>>103088232
He has no 6090 yet to saturate the bandwidth.

>>103088253
thats a turn off, i usually look to see if the SSD is TLC and my judgment ends there, i will be more carefull

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I love nvidia so much but buying an nvidia gpu outside of initial release is killer

>>103088197
most of the internal sound cards are cheaply made and they've stopped development, you can get a dual CS43131 dongle with <0.5ohm output impedance, some models have selectable digital filters (the default minimum phase filter is incorrect for fidelity)

>>103088323
never buying nvidia again
>dead 8600gt
>dead 9800gt
>dead gtx 260

>>103088207
Samsung used to be the best but they fell out a bit.

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>wonderful deals for 7900XT
>but new GPUs in January
>probably FSR4 and some new shit from Nvidia too

Goddammit...

>>103088316

Best SSDs to get currently are Kingston KC3000, Lexar NM790, WD SN850X and Patriot VP4300 Lite (except 4tb version it's QLC). Just get the cheapest one out of those.

I'm thinking of buying a 4070 Super. There is like a 50 bucks difference between Asus Prime, Gigabyte and Zotac. Should I care, or just choose the cheapest one (the Asus)?

>>103088316
990 pro problem was fixed awhile ago, the problems with Intel 13th/14th gen also was fixed recently. Don't worry about reddit tier fearmongering. However, the sn850x is basically as good and $10 cheaper. So get that

>>103088478
they all do the job. the real question is will 12gb age well?

>>103088530
At 1440p fsr performance mode (720p) yeah kekk

>>103088530
If AAA devs want to try and make everyone on a 3060 upgrade to a 4080 equivalent or higher they're my guests, but I think they'll just make people buy consoles.

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What's the catch?

>>103088588
there's a dozen other comparable drives at the same price
its just dramless qlc

>>103088630
Deleted my post. Avoid qlc drives like the plague.

>>103088478
don't get PNY it has an annoying fan noise

Just need a 5080 to go with my new build and it'll be perfect. Unless it's 16gb. Then I'll get the first 20+gb 5000 card that falls under my budget of 1500 dollaridoos.

>>103088385
>wonderful deals for 7900XT
where?
everywhere I look they just give the same price of a 4070 which is around 10% slower than the 7900 XT (the super variant almost matches it).
give me a real 30% discount in terms of cost per frame over nvidia and then maybe I will consider AMD.
I have seen 20% difference in cost per dollar from AMD, but that isn't enough for me to care, but it seems for the 7900 XT is worse than that (maybe for certain countries it might?).

If your target is 1440p, why not spend the extra $200 for a 4080 Super over the 4070 Ti Super? I know this cope can be said about any hardware but an up to 20% performance uplift and better 1% lows make it worth it. No?

>>103088724
20% is being very generous, it's more like 10-15% for an extra $200, it doesn't make much sense to me

>>103088093
During the pandemic I bought a 75Hz monitor for $600. :(

>>103088772
16GB VRAM

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>>103088724
They are built on the same die and you are essentially getting a 10-15% faster gpu for an extra $200. If thats worth it to you then go for it. But at that cost point per performance the 4070 ti super is an easy win.

>>103088724
can you afford to upgrade in a year or two, that $200 could go toward another mid tier card

>>103088724
if your target is 1440p you dont need anything better than a 6800xt which is already a 4 years old card

>>103088812
Ti super is already 16gb.

>>103088719
In Europe.

>>103087635
>right angle
Kinda spooky desu

>>103087519
>resolution: 1080p
>settings: low
YEAH BABY ITS GAME TIME

>>103088996
I checked germany, france, UK, compared the price of a 4070 and the 7900 XT, seems to be about the same as the US.
dunno man maybe I'm missing a country or a special shop.

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Motherboard arrived early. Can't do anything but look at it for now. Damn heavy. First non micro atx board for me since... 2012?

>>103088772
My justification:
>I'm already spending well over $600 for a GPU might as well spend a little more and not regret it
Like once you go over a certain amount of money, to me it makes little sense to start nickel and diming at that point, just go all or nothing.

>>103089046
don't buy a gpu because of future games.
if you want us to tell you if a GPU is worth buying, just tell us the GPU you currently have and the game(s) that is forcing you to buy a new GPU.
>i'm getting 1440p, so I need a new GPU
no you don't. dlss does fine at giving you 1080p speeds on 1440p (you could also resize your monitor to 720p, 1440p is 720p*2).

>>103088022
Sound cards were useful at one point when motherboard manufacturers couldn't be bothered to put half-decent hardware in Windows actually did hardware processing.

But now that it's all software-based, and decent sound is considered a feature now, there's no point beyond having additional outputs It's better to just get an external dac than to take up pcie lanes...

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should i upgrade my 16gb ram if im getting this card for AI?

>>103088197
If you want really good audio get Focusrite DAC.

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im gonna do it, im gonna buy an anime figuring for my PC build.

>>103089279
If you want really good audio get Apple DAC.

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>>103089279
If you want really good audio do NOT get audio interface where output is an afterthought designed for real time monitoring, not for quality

>>103087021
no but warhammer 40k figures are

>>103087613
the most basic monitor has it "LG 24GN650-B"
just look for what you need, most decent gaming monitors have adjustable stands, i recommend the gigabyte g27q for budget and the m27q x (emphasis on the x part since the regular has an inferior bgr panel instead of rgb)
alternatively for oled you can go for the aorus fo27q3 or the fo32u2p

how important is vram for creativr multimedia stuff (blender, ps, video editing, music production etc.)?
unsure whether to get the gtx 3070 8gb or rx 6800 16gb
I'm aware that nvidias are more optimized for these things but I'm wondering if the double amount of vram gives amd the better edge here

>>103088197
theres so many budget external dacs, theres no reason to use a soundcard which has its own drivers that you have to install (practically impossible to acquire on linux), just get the apple usb c to 3.5mm dongle if youre in NA, or the meizu hifi pro if youre anywhere else
aside from that if you want to move up to big boy territory and you have headphones that arent easy to run you can get the topping dx3 pro+

>>103089355
only get as much vram as you need for your workload, cuda isnt about how much faster in rendering it is compared to opencl, but rather the vast cuda library that you get access to
anyway for vram just find out how much vram you need for what youre about to do. nowadays even 3090's are cheap on the used market, once in a while you'll find one for dirt cheap, just make sure you replace the thermal paste (honeywell ptm7950 is pretty great for repasting, put it on the gpu die and as for the vram you can keep the thermal pads or you can use some upsiren ux pro thermal putty which should be way cooler, you can use that stuff on your vrm's also)

>>103088724
The only reason to get a 4070ti super is if none of the current 4080's will fit your case(doubt)

>>103089363
Why? you can get the same apple DAC in Europe

>>103089416
the apple dac in europe unfortunately doesnt have the same specs, its because of EU law limiting the voltage output on the dongle, its theoretically the same dac chip (as far as i know) but a way worse amplifier thus your headphones will be much more quiet

>>103089436
it's not even a EU law, it's some overly cautious interpretation of some french law, there's nothing stopping other brands from selling more powerful dongles

Get your 9800X3D at launch otherwise you run the risk of prices exploding after initial stock runs out like they have for the (discontinued) 7800X3D

>>103089512
I already have my 7800x3d thoughmstever

How do you apply thermal paste these days? Back in my day it was just dropping a large pea sized volume and letting god sort it out but now I see everyone’s doing the spreader thing or using pads

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>Open the case to check the PSU model of a prebuilt
>Can't find zilch, it's hidden at the bottom and I can't move some metal panel with weird screws or something
>Accidentally drop the certified Gamer Glass™ front panel a little
>It breaks into a million pieces
>Remember I had the prebuilt's box with the PSU model stored at the back of the house
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I can't wait for the (big) spiders to settle inside the case now.

>>103089512
AMD ceased production on the 7800x3D, that's not happened to the 9800x3D until zen6 comes out next year.

>>103089585
Doesn't matter asong as you use enough, pea size will be fine.

>>103086965
>>103087107
>>103088176
>>103089287
I think pcpartpicker should add anime figures as a pc component

>>103089585
I use a piece of duct tape as cheap thermal pad.

>>103089623
Good Smile Company should sell prebuilts themed after anime characters and include a Nendo with it

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>>103089585
>thermal paste

>>103089512
calm down, stock ran out for the 7800X3D because AMD stopped making them.
anyone who buys anything over MSRP is a moron.

>>103089037
>MSI Carbon
Good model, grats.

>>103090009
Bit overpriced.

>>103087613
my cheap AOC monitor has swivel and everything but you're much better off with a monitor arm, they're not even expensive

https://youtu.be/V93qdKrofqg?si=oCJE9RlSA3_9jsMi
>Lenovo ThinkCentre M920q (8th gen i5/i7)
>1 slot RX 6400
>16 gb of RAM
Thoughts?

>>103089658
Nendos aren't figurines
>>103090111
That has a lot of potential if it's a 6c/12t i7. Put an rtx a4000 quadro in there next time and it'll fly

Does ram speed matter much with the x3d CPUs?

>>103090024
The only way to get that level of board at an affordable price is to wait 1~2 generations, but manufacturers don't overproduce them for the most part.

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>>103084735
> But not because it lacked fancy colors, right?
Man, I bought Ryzen 7800x3d for 36000₽. This was in January thought, but whatever.

Good luck finding no RGB motherboard and card.

>>103089659
>gray
>blue filter
Yeah, that's a fake

>>103090165
2-3% average performance improvement at most

Hey everyone, just another update on my 4090 return. I was able to return it to BestBuy without incident. They inspected the box and verified the contents then immediately issued a full refund.

I would highly recommend this retailer because the process was unusually pain free, especially when compared to Amazon.

best cpu cooler currently without considering budget at all?

what is a good site for used components?

>>103090440
Best at what
I recently ordered
>https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0D9GWDTHZ
because I want the big screen and clean looks but ultimately it's probably not a chart topper but it's up there with the other high tiers. If budget isn't a concern why not invest in looks instead of fretting which cooler is ahead of the pack by margin for error on a 300 watt load?

>>103090440
One of those Asus Rog 360 aios that come with noctua's a12x25

>>103090523
best at overall cooling obviously
>nzxt
isnt cam fucking shit though?

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>>103089604
>Comfy with my solid side panels

>>103090627
Cam is decent as long as you run it in guest mode (don't log in)
The problem with nzxt is that their aios ship with lousy fans

>>103089027
Power Color Red Devil 7900XT (highest tier) is being sold for about $670 in the US for a limited time, even their rep is saying it should be selling for at least $100 more.
Wouldn't buy it btw, way too late to pay that much for a card with next-gen cards only a few months away.

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Testing phantom spirit with 3 fans

>>103090730
White PCBs look so good

>>103090696
the 7900 XTX is the highest teir, and in that situation if you found it for $700 I would consider it a good deal.
However $670 is overpriced compared to a 4070 super which is comparable to a 7900 XT.
I don't mind competition, it's just that AMD isn't actually saving you a lot of money, or giving you a crazy fps difference, it's the same GPU for the same price.

Building a new PC after about 5 years and went around trying to find comparisons of the 4070 and 7800 xt.
Why and how is userbenchmark still around?

I'm a disgusting person, but is there a wrist rest that doesn't smell like bullhole after three weeks out there?

>>103090823
Take a shower

>>103090849
I shower twice a day but these pads smell like butthole after two weeks.

>>103090817
>Why and how is userbenchmark still around?
13 year olds and Pakis go there for their opinions on PC hardware

>>103090823
stop having sweaty hands, reroll your DNA.

all I need for my build is an SSD, but the black friday sales are just weeks away, I have no idea whether I should wait or not

>>103090817
>>103090860
I wish there was an aggregate site with its admittedly very user-friendly layout. It's 'good enough' to compare at a glance to see what's in the same performance bracket, but for anything in-depth it's just AMD seething. I don't know how anyone manages to have such a hate boner for AMD that they outright lie about the X3D CPUs.

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how durable are PSUs structurally, assuming its not some cheap aliexpress one?
i may or may not have dropped mine from a 4 foot drop

>>103090948
techpowerup is what I use for GPUs and I use Cpumonkey for CPUs

>>103090963
Is it cracked and or does it rattle when you shake it?

>>103090977
nope

>>103090982
Eh it's probably fine.

>>103090963
what did it hit?
hard floor? its fucked. carpet? she'll be right mate

>>103087149
If you wait till january for 8800xt you might be able to get 4080 performance for a way better price if leaks turn out to be legit

>>103090222
For $4/piece I did not expect anything. Just working as good as previous paste is enough.

>>103091120
its not going to be 4080 tier, its going to be either 5% above the 7900XT or 5% under the 4080.
350mm of N4, slightly larger AD104 than and slightly smaller than AD103.

>>103090963
4 feet, so about 1.2 meters? Well, if you know the weight in kg you can do
kg * 9.81 * 1.2 = J
Then take J and multiply it by 0.73.
You'll get (about) how much force it got hit with in american pounds.

>>103089025
>resolution: 1080p
>settings: low
based

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Resident retard here are they any databases/lists when it comes to same model gpu comparisons?
i am in the market for a 4060 8gb and there are like 10+ different brands for it

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>>103090817
>>103090948
Techpowerup does the trick.

There is also bestvaluegpu.com which is based on 3DMark score (does not really factor in VRAM, DLSS/RT).

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Graphics+Cards&manufacturer=&recommended=1&pp=25&order=date

>>103091762
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-4060.c4107

>>103091762
Avoid anything with an average or aggregate score anywhere in site (sight).

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>>103091762
/u/ValueKing13 does them on Reddit and YouTube. He does not have a comparison chart for the 4060, but you can ask him directly. He also has a Telegram channel. Overall consensus is that the ASUS DUAL 4060 is the best cheap model, and the ASUS STRIX is probably the overall best, but it's $100 (25%) more expensive than base models, so not recommended here.

which samsung ssd was it that had that really bad thing that completely killed its longevity? are other samsung ssds reliable?

>>103091913
The 990PRO was most affected but a firmware update fixed it. While I wouldn't recommend buying one for a gaming rig I'd say it's worth checking the revision if you do.

Should I wait for 9800x3d or just get the 7800x3d?

>>103091794
How is there already shit with 2x12V?

>>103092026
If you're not buying a top tier card, and don't play many CPU-bound games, you could consider buying a 7600(X) now and upgrading to X3D later when the market stabilizes. I say this because I expect the 9800X3D to have stock issues at launch.
OTOH if you are prepared to pay "scalped" prices you might as well wait 2 days and get to refreshing.

>>103092068
Do you really think it has enough hype to be sold out instantly? It's not a groundbreaking CPU, just a bit better than the 7800x3d for about the same price.
When it isn't on sale at least. Wish I was thinking about upgrading 2 months ago when it was only like 350

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>>103092033
That's an OC card. Also, the cable is rated for 600W, but a STRIX with a single cable can pull 1500W.

considering that your PC case is the part youre likely to replace/upgrade the absolute last, why shouldnt I just splurge on some $300 case?

>>103092118
Because a better CPU/GPU/monitor/bigger SSD is far more useful than a $300 case. The case should be the last part you splurge on.

>>103092118
Because a cheap case will provide the same function and caring about looks is gay.

>>103092118
>why shouldn't I spend $300 on a case
>me over here
>why shouldn't I spend $65 dollars on a case
I'm buying the Montech XR

>>103092094
I think it will sell through because everybody else is thinking the same way as I do about the 7800X3D. That is to say that postponing one's purchase is a Schelling point. I don't think it'll be permascalped like GPUs were, because the demand for top tier "gaming" CPUs is finite, but expect to do some legwork if you want one immediately.

>>103092094
800x3d sells more than the entirety of intel's combined diy sales. even if there's a boatload of stocks, it will sell out on day 1 because of upgraders and waitfags

>>103092118
1: Cases kind of top out at ~$150. Over that and you're (mostly) paying for niche features or aesthetic flights of fancy.
2: Your tastes or circumstances will change.

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I'm simply not upgrading until the industry gets rid of DLShitSmearing, fake frames and all that gay shit.
>inb4 that's never
So be it.

>>103092156
>>103092141
Fair enough.
Guess I can wait 2 days and see if I win the refresh race for the initial stock at least.

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we should discuss how ai is enabling developers to be lazy as fuck and spend less effort into optimizing their games

5700x3d is like 210 yuroburgers while 5800x3d is close to 290
is the price difference worth it?

>>103090730
No difference in temps or noise really. Huh.

>>103092274
Software bloating to fit the hardware is basically a law of nature. Do you have any ideas as to a solution?

>>103092278
nah, its like 10% better but it is technically the GOAT for AM4

>>103092274
Those specs look familiar.
Monster Hunter Wilds I'm guessing?
RE engine was just not made for open world. The engine demands too much from the CPU. Fixing it would likely require them to start from scratch.

>>103092094
>>103092219
They fixed the cache placement issue so apparently it now has better oc potential. It will be better than the 7800x3d stock vs stock, but if you are into overclocking it looks like an interesting cpu since now you can crank up the clock speeds which is nice for things that don't scale with cache size. I'm getting one for this reason, and it's about time I retire my 5800x3d. Might as well sell it while it still has value anyway.

>>103092289
Like, just don't do that?

>>103092341
They need to sell you next gen hardware.

>>103092341
Men cannot be made into angels. The core problem is that the financial incentives promote slop. Optimized code is expensive; it takes more time to write and it requires hiring/retaining talented programmers. Then, even if you do "take the hit", it doesn't improve your sales much if at all. I really do wish every game was made by Chris Sawyer but I have to contend with the fact that he has been basically unemployed for 20 years.

When I search for "docking stations" at stores, I see these unstable ones where drives are being plugged in vertical position and connected to PC via USB. Are there better options for connecting large HDDs, preferably in raid configuration to PC? What should I search for? Most PC cases I see only have space for two 3.5 drives.

>>103092336
5800x3d will be valuable for a long time since it's the best in socket CPU

>>103092448
If you're building fresh just choose a case with more bays. You may need to buy mounts separately but it'd be better than trying to run RAID over USB. In fact, if you want a bunch of storage you may be better off with a NAS. Especially if you have an old rig you can repurpose - proper multi-bay enclosures are damned expensive.

4090 chads selling their cards now before the 5090 comes out are big brained.

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48 hours to intel death

>>103092542
Intel killed itself, AMD just started shoveling dirt on their corpse

how has intel never recovered from ryzen?

https://videocardz.com/pixel/geforce-rtx-50-blackwell-to-be-unveiled-soon-claims-leaker

NVIDIA WON

THANK YOU NVIDIA

>>103092495
Actually I have old PC, I intended to give it to my mother but as replacement for her already existing PC, which could be repurposed as well. But I never made server before so I'm totally green.

It's not for fresh build but existing one. My case have only small, tight space for HDDs and I need disk space for storage. Recently had to replace one 3TB drive after it showed some reallocated sectors (so I assumed it would fail soon) and I wondered if having my storage outside of case wouldn't be better idea. Right now have 3 (twin of said replaced old one, this one appears healthy) and 4 TB (fresh one) HDDs, close to each other and one have to be mounted upside down or I wouldn't be able to even plug in otherwise. Having separate case with 4 HDDs in two raid configurations would be much safer option. Sure, my mobo have total 5 sockets for m.2 drives (with 2 in use) but I don't think that nvme SSDs are good storage options at 2-4TB range. I was told that worn out SSD can hold data only for 3 months without power and modern ones are almost impossible to recover lost data from.

What case should I get if I'm a nondescript normie on the surface but a raging homofaggot deep down below? Vrwyp

>>103092653
Sleeper build

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>>103092635
>card that was already announced will be announced
>nowaying
Leakers get the rope

>>103092274
GDeflate games are all bloated. It's not AI.

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garbage meme don't buy it, wasted $13 and temps are 8C higher than with Thermalright TF7.

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>>103092757
graphite pads are out
phase change pads are in

7600X and 5700X3D are the same price in my country, and 5800X3D is about 50 more expensive than both. I'm assuming it's worth it to go with the AM5 chipset for future proofing? The 7X3D is about double the price, so not worth it currently. Are there any other alternatives here?

>>103092875
yeah get on AM5 unless you don't plan to upgrade again for 3-4 years.

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I boughted sapphire 7800 xt

>>103092937
good job now play game

>>103088176
>rebuildslop

one of the fans on my gpu scrapes on its own heatsink (as far as I can tell) when it runs at low speed. irritates the hell out of me. I did RMA it but they couldn't recreate it. i couldnt ever for a week when i got it back, but it started again
any tips on fixing it? never opened up a gpu before

>>103088022
It's decent but the holy grail of soundcards are the xonar essence STX combined with a good neutral headphone like an Audio Technica R70X.

>>103092653
A solid black(or white) full tower from dell or hp.

>>103087931
Get an IPS 34" or 38" Ultrawide eg Dell AW3420DW, Acer X34 or X38, AW3821DW or LG 35GP950G-B or 34gn850-b.
At 1440p a 4080 or 4070 TI Super is more than good enough (especially when you tweak the settings to get better frames).
You don't need to go over the top with CPU, an Intel 12700k will do just fine, get an MSI Z790 Carbon (whatever is cheapest, they're all pretty much identical, though WIFI version if you're going to use WIFI).
Ram you can pick up some sub 10ns 2x32gb ram that's around 5600 C28, eg G Skill F5-5600J2834F32GX2-RS5K or F5-6000J3040G32GX2-RS5K, Corsair CMK64GX5M2B6400C32
Hynix Platinum P41 for your OS drive, other drives that will do a job are the SN 850X or Seagate Firecuda 530.
Case, Fractal North XL, Meshify 2 XL or Meshify 2. AIO get the Arctic Liquid Freezer Three 360mm.
PSU, be quiet dark power 13 1000w titanium with a native 12vhpwr connector and a big warranty.

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>>103088588
>the p5 plus died for this dramless shitter

>>103090391
this is basically how all return works in australia.
you bought a product from a retailer, so why the fuck would you deal with some megacorp in asia instead of just taking the faulty product back to who you bought it from.

New Radeons when?

>>103093149
Let them cook.

>>103093149
Probably April or May.
5000 series is going to monster everything in Jan & Feb & AMD won't want to release something until they know what they're up against.

imagine if installing GPUs worked just like CPUs
choosing your own chip, ram, and cooler
not needing to pay $400 more for some fancy cooler, or $200 for 4 more gigabytes of vram
in a perfect world this would be the case

>>103093255
you cant really choose your ram. its dependent on the pcb which is separate from the gpu core.

>>103089623
that'd be cool, it sucks they are so expensive and are basically dedicated to the jap market, i think some of them look amazing.
>>103092977
just like the figure, the rebuilds were and always will be shite, its embarrassing that some eva fans rate them.

Looking at the OP cases. Listed from cheapest to most expensive. Is the best/most expensive case really only like 95 bucks? Seems surprisingly cheap to me.

>>103093464
everything over that is a waste of money. "best" here considers that I assume/. theres no need to spend much on a case except for vanity

>>103093221
>Probably April or May
In this case they should wait until october-november to know what their competitors are planning to do after summer to react accordingly.

>>103093149
>>103093221
February.

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How does this look? I'm finally upgrading after a decade with a 970/4960k, will mainly be used for gaming/VR. , at 1440p/60 or higher hz/lower res for multiplayer.

Unfortunately the prices here are kind of shit, but I can get a few of these for slightly cheaper on amazon bringing the total closer to ~1580.

I'd be willing to stretch to 1700 if there's a huge improvement, but if this is good enough for half a decade or more then I'll be happy

I know that to run a system at pcie4 all the components need to support it (mobo, CPU, GPU). But does the pcie of the nvme ssd matter? More specifically when the m2 slot is pcie3.

>>103093583
Steel Legend or Riptide are better bang for the buck in at only ~10-20 more

>>103093595
a pcie3 ssd in a pcie4 slot will run at pcie3 speed
a pcie4 ssd in a pcie3 slot will run at pcie3 speed

>>103093639
I know, what I am asking is whether the pcie of the SSD affects the pcie of the GPU like the pcie of the CPU does.

Imagine having an amd gpu lmao

>>103093874
WOuld you rather deal with njudea drivers on loonix?

>>103093921
this, also: >>103086956

>>103092995
Get a GPU antisag bracket and see if it fixes it. The frame might be warped when mounted which can cause that to happen

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I got three cases in mind. I can't make a decision because I like how they all look when completed.

>https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BwBzK8/corsair-3500x-argb-atx-mid-tower-case-cc-9011278-ww
>https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FCK2FT/be-quiet-pure-base-500dx-atx-mid-tower-case-bgw37
>https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xgKscf/nzxt-h6-flow-atx-mid-tower-case-cc-h61fb-01

>>103088724
If I were gaming I'd buy 7900xtx or 4080s. Mostly 7900xtx.

>>103092274
Crapcom being crapcom wcyd

>>103093583
> How does this look?
Good enough, you just forgot storage. New games require fast SSD to continuously load in data from.

I am not sure if this is an OLED-exclusive issue but is there a solution to prevent adaptive sync from causing minor flickering when playing certain games?

>>103093962
fair shout i'll try that

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>>103093983
me personally i like that nzxt one, probably because i have something similar i guess

>>103092763
is phase change a meme as well?

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>>103088176
>>103093292
i hated what the rebuilds did to the plot but seeing shinji with this subtle confident smile made it all worth it..

>I can tell he's finally past it all

I know data on a ssd (unlike a hard drive) can get deleted if left unpowered in the drawer for over a year, does the same go with USB drives?

>>103094193
ive had usb's sit for years and still have the data so its a mystery

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Pretty happy with my latest build. Was going to build a basic Unraid NAS with a newer gen i5. Things got out of hand, I ended up returning the i5 and several other things, built a 12900k system. Ended up putting my old i9 9900k board into a Fractal R5 for the NAS and building this instead.

Maybe would have gone with AMD if I didn't basically impulse buy all of this in a fever dream, but I'm really happy with how it's running. Will probably buy a 14900k on clearance at some point and keep the 12900k around just in case that melts down. Running Proxmox, passing the 4090 through to a Win 11 VM.

>>103094193
I just plugged an 8mb CF card literally from the year 2001 that my Dad found buried in his storage and it loaded perfectly. Was kind of hard to believe desu. Was like opening a portal to the past with pictures of Christmas when my Grandma and Grandpa were still alive and other random candid shots.

>>103094049
it's qd oled issue, just run games at max hz and 60fps.

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Think I'm going to ATX mod one of these into an AMD system sometime next year. It's one of the best looking cases ever and it's not even close. When Apple still had soul.

>>103094266
How many watts?

/g/uys I need help
I am getting a mobo and I am limited to two choices.

>Biostar X670E VALKYRIE
https://www.biostar-usa.com/app/en-us/mb/mb_overview_new.php?S_ID=1079&MODEL=X670E_VALKYRIE

>Gigabyte B650 GAMING X AX V2
https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/B650-GAMING-X-AX-V2-rev-1x#kf

The motherboard I get is going to house an r7 9700x3d

I have never heard of biostar.
My question is, is biostar untrustworthy? Is biostar so bad that I should downgrade from x670e to b650?

>>103094044
>>103093631
Okay thanks

For the SSD, I have a couple of SATA Samsung ones from my current build, as well as the cooler and monitor/peripherals so I'll just re-use those for now

>>103094338
Idles around 100 -- when I run a 4k maxed out Cyberpunk benchmark, it jumps up to 550. I have a 1200w PSU which is way overkill, but I expected a higher load.

>>103093464
i haven't looked at them in detail, but /g/aymer neckbeards usually prioritize cpu/gpu performance and leave the cooling noise as an afterthought, these cases will be cheaply made of steel and they're big and heavy

>>103090730
x870 pro rs wifi gang.

>>103094342
> I am limited
?

>>103090884
I have sweaty feet and sweaty palms. Its going to awkward when I hold a female's hands. What do women think about sweaty hands?

>>103094437
Weird circumstances, I am basically getting one of these two mobos for free

>>103094342
Get the biostar

>>103092118
300 on cases is so stupid.

>>103092757
The way I see these things, they're useful if you assemble and disassemble PCs a lot since it's much easier and less messy to reuse one than to deal with thermal paste cleanup every time. I can't see such a thing being better than thermal paste for a permanent application. they're tools for a different purpose.

>>103092937
Was it atleast significantly cheaper than 7900gre?

>>103094330
I have a (now unused) lian li case that copied this design. Terrible. No decent dust filters possible.

>>103094330
I think silverstone had something similar. Also, consider qube500 it looks like one of the later applel cases.

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>>103094426
>>103093464
These guides are typically geared for getting the most out of your money at different price points vs an expensive vanity build. You can definitely get nicer cases and it's mostly a preference thing, but like anon said, noise is an important factor. Cable routing and other stuff is a factor as well. So basically find something you like the look of and watch some videos on it to see if it's worth the extra price or not. I really love my Phanteks Enthoo Evolv X which is a little more expensive of a case. Had it for a few years now and I'll still stare at it and appreciate how cool it looks.

>>103094342
How much is the bioshart? Why not get something from Asrock? x870 pro rs wifi?

>all these cases with support for 2-3 radiators
>not a single one of them supports big fucking fans(160+)
I really need fractal to remake the torrent and just make it a little bigger, also lianli needs to get off their ass and drop the lancool 217 already.

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>>103089249
my personal reason for not buying a GPU for AI (LLM's) is because I use google colab which provides a 15gb gpu, but it's super autistic to get working (Use sillytarvern on your PC and then connect it to colab with koboldcpp or oogabooga, if you have a nvidia GPU with 6gb of vram, you can also use sillytavern with your GPU, I use lm studio locally because it tells you the vram usage)
buying a GPU for AI is more convenient, especially if you have a 6-8gb card (and the PSU and case) to do a dual GPU setup.
The problem with the 4060 TI 16gb is that LLM's are bottlenecked by bandwidth, and the 4060 TI 16gb doubles up the chips to reach 16gb instead of using a bigger bus, which means a 4060 will have a lower token per second speed than a 4070 (but 12gb is not much, but you might be able to reach 16gb models offloading to ram without being slower than a 4060 TI 16gb).
Note the image shows the 2080 TI being as slow as the 4060 TI, but the main reason for the slowness is due to the lack of compute on the 2080 TI since this is a Q4 model, which uses like 5gb of vram (96 tokens per second is pretty fast). The 2080 TI should be 2x the speed of the 4060 TI when you use a larger model.
So if you scale up the vram, the token speed will linearly slow down, So if you had a 16gb model, it should be 3x slower, so it will be 30tk/s. That sounds great! but that's about the same speed I get from colab.
Frankenstein 22gb 2080 TI's exist, but they lack FlashAttention 2.0 because old.
I think a 5070 should be a good AI gpu if it's the same price of a 4070 super.
https://github.com/XiongjieDai/GPU-Benchmarks-on-LLM-Inference
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/178gkr0/performance_report_inference_with_two_rtx_4060_ti/

>https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-review-leaks-out-showing-strong-1-low-fps-improvement
It's out. It can pull 155W in cinebench r23

>>103092118
> PC case is the part youre likely to replace/upgrade the absolute last,
Nope, I got a dozen or more cases because case design and personal taste changed with time.

>>103094496
Limited to these two options, weird circumstances

>>103094519
its over

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>>103094518
I have been toying with the thought of building an AI rig out of 4 3090s like this guy did.

I've seen them as low as $400 on marketplace and I feel like they're going to get even cheaper when the 5090 drops and hits better availability on the market after launch.

>>103094519
People are going to complain it being zen5% and having average drop. AMD should have worked more on the wingay scheduling software.

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>>103092156
Even Threadrippers and APUs will get 3D V-cache. Intel needs to come up with something similar or become irrelevant in these segments.

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-reportedly-preparing-threadripper-and-next-gen-apus-with-3d-v-cache

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>>103094519
its over bros

>>103094564
They were supposedly working on their own version that had some pretentious marketing name for it like it was some kind of incredible new tech and not just gluing some more cache onto the CPU.

>>103094508
When fan companies make standard size fans, why will case companies make non standard sizes?

>>103094519
so just get a 7800x3d if its cheaper then

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>>103094577
>mfw vcache is really vtrash

>>103092195
DSSL looks better than native. Native becomes literally retarded. And retarded to insist on.

>>103094523
I don't know enough anon.

>>103094560
>>103094577
This is good news for me, means I'll be able to eat it for cheap in 3 months :)

>>103094587
I have genuinely never seen it look better.

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>>103094519
>4070 Ti

My bluetooth and wifi drivers don't work. I have an MSI B550M VDH-Pro Wifi mobo. I flashed it to the most recent version because it would otherwise be incompatible with my 5700x3d. Problem is that neither bluetooth nor wifi works. I'm on Windows 10 and, while the drivers are technically installed, I can't use them, which leads me to believe it's not a windows problem but a mobo problem. I also tried to update windows and the drivers, but that didn't work since everything was already up to date.

Do I need to install specific drivers to get them to work? And, if so, where can I get them? I tried searching for them on MSI's website, but to no avail.

>>103092541
I'm not gonna get rid of my 4090 now. There is no guarantee a 5090 will become available soon enough and I would want to wait for the initial price hike to end like I did for my 4090.

>>103094553
2x 3090 means 20tk/s, 4x means 10tk/s.
personally I only use LLM's for fapping, so even though using a cloud GPU from vast.ai for $2 for an hour for a 96gb / 144gb GPU is very expensive, I genuinely think it would save more more money than buying hardware because I just don't fap that much with LLMs, I just wait for something new and I doubt anyone is training a 70b Q8 or 500b q2 model for erp, because most people have 2x 3090's at best, so why train a 96gb model?

Anyone have any idea why the rgb on my case fans don't match with the rest of my pc? for example if I change the color of the rgb in gigabyte control center to red, the rgb for my ram, gpu etc will turn red but the case fans turn blue

>>103094634
I'm on the side of it being driver issue. Can you try connecting an ethernet cable and try to reinstall drivers?

>>103094519
>accidentally leaks
Honestly we all know they do it on purpose, either way I'll wait for reviewers I trust to do a good job.

>>103094639
>very expensive
*I know it sounds cheap, but I am comparing it to the cost of cloud AI's like claude opus and etc.

>>103094518
Why won't they benchmark 7900xtx or amd cards? Rocm is apparently on par with 3090ti. I want to buy the xtx, but everything is telling me not to.

>>103094655
I've done that a couple of times already using device manager.

>>103092278
> 5700x3d
€175 in Germoney. 5800x3d not worth it.

>>103094673
Bruh uninstall from device manager. Go to msi's website. Install fresh. Or, just go to msi's website and install fresh.

If you want to validate that this is not board issue, live boot into ubuntu or fedora and see if you can connect to wifi.

One nigga had 5800x and a tomahawk board listed, he wants to sell the full pc, but I don't want the entire thing. This would make a killer combo for a nas, but I don't want the rest of the parts.

>>103092300
I got one early but I would get a 5700x3d now. It's only tiny bit slower.

How the fuck is the phantom spirit se so good?
How the fuck does it only cost $35?
How the fuck did they do it?

>>103092300
> its like 10% better
Maybe in synthetic benchmarks but not in games where it's rather 1 than 10%.

>>103094655
>>103094692
Nevermind. Found the drivers on MSI's website and installed them. Everything works now.

>>103094713
How the fuck is the ALF 3 360 so good?
How the fuck does it only cost $69?
How the fuck did they do it?

>>103094459
I used an IC graphite pad before on an i7-6700K, the attraction for me is that it never wears out. I tend to keep my PC for a long time, I just upgraded from my 2016 build. So never having to worry about paste needing replacement is nice.

>>103094713
Chink government subsidizing to kill competition. We benefit in the short term.

>>103094745
>>103094745

I just got more info from a seller on marketplace about their used 3090s (MSI Ventus x3 for $500 and gaming trio for $600). He said they were used for ETH mining for 12 months on an open air rack and undervolted/underclocked. Are these good deals? I’m not sure how hard 12 months of ETH mining is on a card.

>>103094672
I think AMD is probably the best competitor to nvidia, but none of the AI people actually care about AMD. So all the newest tools and things for AI are going to be nvidia first AMD second.
And I think AMD even though the spec sheet on the AMD cards and certain benchmarks blow Nvidia away.
And AI right now is a huge mess of incompatibilities and build errors, you need to be a turbo autist tinkerer to just get AMD working.
https://github.com/mlc-ai/llm-perf-bench
>I only want 1 gpu
No, the 3090 / 7900 XTX is too fast. you need a dual GPU setup for a balanced LLM experience. It's fine if you buy the GPU now, then buy the 2nd gpu in the future, but remember that mixing different GPU's might not even be compatible in certain runtimes.
Yep, the 7900 XTX is pretty close to a 4090, but you also need to remember that a 4090 is pretty close to a 3090.
>But I don't want to buy used
The 4070 TI super is decent, the problem is that it's too fast just like the 3090 or 7900 XTX.
Same could be said about the 5070 or 5080, but they are all good GPU's to buy if you plan on getting another GPU in the future (as long as you have the case / PSU to fit, you could technically go ghetto and put your GPU outside the case using an pcie extender that can be hot glued onto something).
Arguably the 4060 TI 16gb works well with dual GPU if you don't mind 10tk/s (I prefer 20tk/s), and it's much better than using ram if you buy a 48gb 5090 TI in the future and feel like 16gb extra helps.
I admit I don't know all the variables, there aren't enough benchmarks, I don't know exactly how dual GPU setups or bus size affect performance (I assume PCIE doesn't matter for inference as long as you have 2-4 lanes of pcie 4 which could come from m.2 slots).

>>103094342
I would never buy anything from biostar

>>103094744
Paste doesn't really need replacement unless it's really old. Like if you're buying retro hardware from decades ago you may want to check the paste. If your computer is still usable for the modern internet and modern applications, you likely do not need to repaste it.

>>103095413
Ryzen 5500 or the 12100f? Pcie4 can definitely have an effect on some games and I am worried about how drastically that might change in the future. On the other hand 4 cores might prove just as problematic in the future...

>>103095593
Didn't mean to reply to that

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>>103094342
holy fuck this anti spam filter is annoying I can't post any urls

>>103095994
don't use link shortneners retard

>>103096113
cant post the original link either retard