what should I use to undervolt my GPU? specifically PNY Nvidia

>>103080312
voltage regulator

>>103080312
msi afterburner or evga precision

>>103080275
Asus Prime H610M-K D4

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My 14900k build parts finish arriving Thursday pretty excited, huge upgrade. Still using my old builds gpu til 5080 launch tho.

>>103080312
msi afterburner is most conveneint
check out some youtube video on undervolting with it and you're to go

>>103080341
>14900k
Good choice. I heard it comes with free oxygen

Looking to upgrade but I only do it once a decade or so, I'm considering a high end X3D chip but I'm concerned about their longevity. As I understand it the extra cache is very sensitive to temperature, but has anyone tested the long term impact? I won't be watercooling so the chip would potentially run at its thermal limit for many years. Is the limit just a binary thing or will 3D cache slowly cook itself like a capacitor?

>>103080393
X3Ds are fine because they're firmware locked and can't easily be overvolted
>long term impact
5800x3ds have been around for 30 months and I haven't heard of them failing

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ruined the build because I wanted to keep my old SSD

>>103080406
I haven't heard of any failures either but I was expecting at least one schizo like der8auer or buildzoid to do a deep dive and stress them hard.

>>103080393
idk I got a 7900 for 12 cores 65w tdp, it's piss easy to air cool with a phantom spirit. highest temp I've seen in benchmarks is 71C with all cores going. It is pretty good.

>>103080412
I cut off those extra SATA connectors

>>103080412
are you not able to stick it in the back with all the wires?

>>103080440
I might be able to if I do what >>103080434 said and cut those extra connectors sticking out. Otherwise, the only space back there is a crevice right next to the power supply but I don't think that's safe

>>103080412
clone it to your new ssd.

Core i3-12100F + Asus Prime H610M-K D4
Or
Ryzen 5 4500 + msi b550 pro vdh
The b550 much nicer, but I am not sure if spending more on a board than the CPU is the best idea. Especially since I am not looking to upgrade my CPU for years to come.
On the other hand I am afraid I could get fucked over by going with a bottom of the barrel h610 board.

>>103080468
Are you buying used? Both seem like horrible options.

>>103080468
get a cheaper B450 and a 5600

>>103080468
Either go with a 12400 or 5600, anything less than that is bad value.

>>103080418
Der8auer tried manually overclocking a 5800x3d or 7800x3d a while back at 1.35 static voltage and killed the CPU
He hasn't tried anything since afaik

Complete newfag here, looking to build at least a new 1080p pc. To my understanding I should wait until next year January to start buying since new cards are coming out and that would affect current prices? Also, 1080p is still good by then right?

>>103080434
you sound like a psychopath

>>103080475
>>103080477
>>103080476
I am pairing them with a 6600, which I don't think needs anything stronger than a 12100.
And by the time I upgrade my GPU, I feel like the 5600/12400 probably won't be any less obsolete.

>>103080483
okay but its a case of $20 for a better cpu and saving $20 on the motherboard

>>103080495
4500 seems better. You do you. Why not sell it and buy a used 5600 or something better now?

>>103080514
The power draw of chiplet CPUs just gets to me, especially the idle one. And since I won't see much of a difference with just a 6600 anyway, I don't want to go for it. Also it's like 70$ vs 112$ where I live. And for the amount of difference I will see, I don't think it's worth it.

>>103080483
I wouldn't expect a significant price drop even when the new cards come out. Plenty of cards in this 4000 series that aren't even being made anymore by Nvidia and they are still more or less the same price on the MSRP market

>>103080546
Ok anon, I wanted a low power draw chip on Nas. You are smarter with monies than I am.

What is the program all those benchmark videos on youtube use where it shows the realtime performance of all your cpu threads and gpu usage?

>>103080484
I am but that's beside the point. You can just stick some electrical tape on them if you wish.

>>103080576
MSI Afterburner with Rivatuner Statistics Server.

>>103080576
cinebench, blender, aida 64, karhu, memtest86, passmark and so on. IDK which of these is good.

>>103080503
Isn't it also a case of a 1440p gpu and monitor being around $200 more than 1080p options? At least that's the case where I'm from. Also need new monitors because my current ones are shit.
>>103080563
I see. Won't expect much from the new announcements then, thanks.

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pissi cuckitini

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erm what the sigma?

If mutli core performance is the same, will a 6 core CPU have any advantage in multi tasking over a 4 core one?

Are there fake 4090s out there? Or at least awful bins that somehow make their way out of the factory? Found a local guy selling sealed FEs for 1500 and apparently he has quite a few.

>>103080722
(re)seal machines exist. He could just put a rock or another heavy object in there.

>>103080721
no, the multi core performance is the same is the same thing as multi tasking being the same.
however a 4 core that can do the same work as a 6 core in the same time has a faster single core which is better for gaming.

>>103080721
It might be more efficient if it's clocked lower
Other than that, no. It will be slower where single core performance matters

>>103080711
>these prices but in Canadian dollars
Its so fucking over

trying to build a computer during a gpu shortage sounds hellish, people would really spend like $600 for a 60 card and spend so much money on some prebuilt just for the video card

>>103080753
people were buying $100 1030's and saying it was viable... it was the release of the 6500XT that popped the market.

>>103080739
It's local pickup, I don't think he'd be selling rocks to so many people who know where he lives. There's got to be another catch.

>>103080740
>>103080741
> single-core
Likely, but not always. The 6-core might be constrained by power or thermal limits, which wouldn't normally be an issue in a single-core workload.

>>103080721
The other anons are right for the vast majority of situations but there is a benefit in applications where you assign cores. For example you can run transcodes or VMs in the background without choking the host as much. Pretty niche but it's there.

how good is the oc scanner built into the nvidia geforce experience? I got +160mhz core and +200 memory (21.4gbps) on my 4090 which seems pretty excessive?

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>>103080305
>AMD launches its own Ryzen 7 9800X3D Desktop PC in China, GeForce RTX 40 options included
Prebuilt bros, its our time

>>103081004
Why the fuck are you overclocking a 4090? But no, it's not good, its only purpose is to show you an absolute upper bound curve.

>>103080412
You ruined it by turning the LEDs on.

>>103081062
i usually run it undervolted at 0.9v and 2.3ghz but i heard an anon saying the oc scanner is able to push your silicon to its limits but still >150mhz overclock seems to good to be true

>>103081080
IIRC undervolting the 4090 makes it lie about clockspeed (obvious in a side to side comparison, same clock will be reported but performance is lower), I'm not sure how pushing the clock even further affects that.

>>103081055
>GeForce RTX 40 options included
L M A O
even amd knows nobody wants their cards

>>103081105
That's only if you OC at a low voltage causing clock stretching. rtx40 are programmed to do ~2.3ghz at 0.9v from the factory. You can push it to 2.6ghz but you'll get varying levels of clock stretching depending on how much current the gpu pulls

is the heat generated between gold and platinum rated PSUs that significant? I'm building in a small case that doesn't have a psu shroud, would it be worth getting platinum so less heat is generated in the case, or is it insignificant?

>>103081141
Per the 80+ spec it's 2-3% depending on the load (maybe a tad more if the Platinum unit exceeds the requirements). Plus, 99% of cases either separate the PSU airflow or use it as an exhaust so most of that "extra" heat won't get in to the main enclosure.

>>103081141
At the very worst it's 2% of what the PSU is rated for, compared to a GPU it's almost nothing.

whats something cheap that I can get my dad for watching youtube and will last 5 years under $500 thats not a prebuilt. He is currently using 15+ year old equipment and refuses to let me fix it or tinker with it as they dont want to lose all their data

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>>103081117
The nvidia cards are only good for filling up the mid/low end options because of their poor $/GB value

>>103081265
>refuses to let me fix it or tinker with it as they dont want to lose all their data
let them fend for themselves

>>103081265
are you sure he just doesn't want you to see his porn stash

People honestly don't need more than a 6800XT which is approaching 4 years old now.

>>103081265
Franky at that price, and for a non-technical user, a prebuilt is exactly what to get. Not least so you won't be on the hook when something goes wrong.
If you insist on DIY then something along the lines of an i3+IGP build is the way to go.
Here's an example "baseline" build at $350: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QhbCmC
Same concept but closer to the budget limit with a few "luxuries": https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Rk2bt3
The upgrades are targeted at 1: normie use i.e. zero maintenance and 2: longevity - more cores and RAM. Case is a placeholder as I didn't want to trawl through the list to find something cheap with a proper dust filter.

>>103081265
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MKzFfd

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I'll have to use my old screen for a while after I get my gpu. But it's only DVI. Does a DVI-HDMI reduction work fine?

>>103081386
Works on my machine, though it's just for a secondary 1080@60 monitor.

Should I really wait before buying a RX 7900 XTX. The new shit generally takes forever get decent drivers on linux anyways.

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NVIDIA WON

THANK YOU NVIDIA

>>103081425
>aishit
pass

>>103081422
RADV has better drivers than Windows.

>>103081425
Consumer cards use Samsung GDDR6 or 7

>>103081265
Alder Lake can decode AV1, so a 12100 on a H610 mobo is fine

>>103080406
The 9800X3D is unlocked! UNLOCKED! unlocked! UNLOCKED!

>>103081508
then dont overclock it problem solved

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I played the MH demo over the weekend and could only push a choppy 45 fps on high with a 3600x and 2080ti

Should I get a 5700X3D and another 16gb of ram or should I be buy somthing on the am5 platform, Im willing to spend for this game (only series I really play)

Is the 2080ti worth holding onto? I guess I can wait to see the new 5000 series GPUs but the performace to value just doesnt seem to be there

>>103080393
>As I understand it the extra cache is very sensitive to temperature
it's sensitive to voltage
>the chip would potentially run at its thermal limit for many years
are you going to be running prime95 all day?

>>103081425
>hbm
uhhh no

>>103081570
its probably going to be easier to buy a 2x16gb kit and sell your 16gb kit. if you're on a budget its going to be cheaper to stay on AM4.
it is probably best to wait for the new GPUs

>>103081570
>I played the MH demo over the weekend and could only push a choppy 45 fps on high with a 3600x and 2080ti
yeah that's a CPU bottleneck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHdM-Gbqf24
seems to be very badly optimized
>Should I get a 5700X3D
yes
>another 16gb of ram
this probably won't work like you expect it to, mismatched sticks can be a pain in the ass to stabilize
what RAM do you have?

>>103081570
>>103081592
>>103081597
no game ready drivers btw

>>103081606
i love it when NVIDIA has to add hacks in the driver to fix broken games

>>103081610
they had to do the same for world. monster effects would tank your fps to single digit until the game ready driver launched late.

https://chipsandcheese.com/p/broadwells-edram-vcache-before-vcache

>>103081462
and how long did it take for RX 7900 XTX to become stable

>>103081662
stability is impossible with the 7900 XTX
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/issues/3131

>>103081610
Honestly that's most of a GPU's performance. Just look at the Arc cards - 400mm2 on the A750 and it struggles to match a 160mm2 4060. Granted the latter is on a better node but not 2.5x better.

>>103081675
Are you fucking retarded? Arc has way better hardware encoders and decoders and XMX for XeSS, of course it will take up more space

>>103081675
that probably has more to do with the general quality of the drivers (CPU overhead, shader compiler, etc) than any game-specific hacks
most games only get like 10% more performance from game ready drivers
also consider the fact that the architecture just sucks, compare GCN vs RDNA if you want another relevant example

>>103081675
you don't even have to look that far, the 6650XT is on 237mm of N7 and the A770 doesn't beat it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LSF-II0l-4&t=144s

Also here's why Arc Alchemist is struggling, no native ExecuteIndirect support
Battlemage has it

>>103081704
Yeah sorry I should have been more clear in saying that driver "hacks" in general make up a big chunk of a GPU's performance. Nvidia has already done the legwork, so to speak, with general optimization so there's not as much to be gained from game-specific changes.

planning on getting a 34" ultra-wide monitor seeing a sell on LG website now or should I wait for black friday? https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-34wq60c-b-ultrawide-monitor

>>103081694
Anon are you suggesting that hardware encoders take up 240mm2 of die space?

>>103081065
I hated RGB too until I realized I can spend 5 minutes to get software that allow for customization, instead of everything being on the stock rainbow vomit preset.

>>103081754
I thought you were compared to PooDNA2, which doesn't have any hardware features to save on die space

And TSMC 4N custom process for nvidia is way better than TSMC N6 that Arc uses

>>103081668
Lel. What a fucking joke.

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-ceo-presents-panther-lake-cpu-sample-the-first-product-with-xe3-gpu-architecture

Intel Xe3 is coming next year, Intel taking the performance crown again while AYYMDEAD is forever stuck on PooDNA 3.5

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-apus-rumored-to-use-rdna3-gpu-architecture-until-at-least-2027

>>103081782
it's not funny anymore
maybe RDNA 4 will work

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>>103081796
*laughs in Strix Halo*

>>103081818
That is PooDNA 3.5, it can't compete at all with modern GPU architectures

>>103081668
>>103081804
How well does the 4090 work, I want to build a new rig but my options seem fairly terrible.

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>>103081819
the Arrow lake igpu can barely compete against AMDs 740M their weakest iGPU, at best Panther lake will catch up to the 780M.
the 890M is 1060 performance btw.

>>103081861
NVIDIA on linux gives me the ick
probably works though, i mean, it will boot

if you want something that truly just werks on linux you need a 6900/6950 XT, but those are fairly hard to obtain these days

>>103081780
Fur sure but the scale of the improvement is nowhere near the performance-per-area difference. Let's be super charitable and say 1: Intel dedicated 80mm2 to encoders (so A750 = 2x 4060 area) and 2: TSMC 4N is 20% denser than N6 you've still got a ~1.8x difference in PPA. Some of that is definitely architectural but drivers make a big difference too.

>>103081876
Man I don't want to go back to using a pci passthrough, its a pain in my ass.

>>103080711
You're competing for silicon with Sam Altman's cyber-Moloch summoning project, it never began.

>>103081871
Are you fucking retarded? That is Alchemist generation and only 4 XVE units.
If you don't know shit don't even post

>>103081915
>waaaaaaaahhhhh
we're done here

>>103081767
>not turning every single light inside your pc off

>>103081570
My 5800x3d dropped to 40s in the base camp and couldn't keep steady 60+ fps during the rey dau mission in the first area. Granted, I am using a peerless assasin, and despite uv, it was still peaking at 81c, so it definetly started throttling. I'm also using an ocd and modded 79xtx, so I wasn't gpu bottlenecked except in a rare few cases.
Re engine is very cpu intensive for some reason, and the wildlife and npcs doing their own thing in the background doesn't help.
Probably going to upgrade to a 9800x3d when it comes out.

>>103081804
Why would they be better lel?

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>>103080711
>5070 12GB
They can’t be serious…

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Alright I packed my 4090, I just have to return it later today. Gonna use this 4080S and return it in January when the 5090 comes out.

>>103082249
just buy it goy

>>103082276
based i tried to kill my 79xtx before the 9900xtxh but not wont die guess ill have to wait longer

>>103081570
try been stuck on 30fps with beamng in vr because of memory leaks they refuse to fix with a 13600k 79xtx with 60gb of ddr4 ram being used

Motherboard anons, which one would you pick? Planning to get a 5600 or pro 4650g with ecc ram.
- b550m hdv
- b450m hdv
- b450m Pro4 R2.0

Brehs, I want this for a nas, Pro4 has vrm cooling, this might be important since I'll be running it 24/7. 450m is the cheapest I would buy. b550m hdv is the cheapest on b550.

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>>103082337
I'm not sure if RDNA5 is UDNA or if UDNA is after RDNA5, but either way the 9900XTX will be fun.

>>103081117
>give options
>somehow a bad thing
seethe trannoid

>>103082357
two more, most expensive of all:
- ASRock B550M WiFi SE
- ASRock B550M Steel Legend

I guess I listed all the matx boards and I'm asking which one is best. If I were paying for the best, I want ipmi.

>>103082392
my 7900xtx isnt fast enoguh for 3000x3000 vr not bothering with Quest 3 or whatever comes next untel we got gpus fast enough for that

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>>103082357
If the price spread between them isn't so vast I'd run with the b450m Pro4 R2.0 since it has heatsinks on both sides of the VRM chokes. If price is a factor then get the plain B450M-HDV as it at least has heatsinks on one section. Unless I'm overlooking it they seem to have feature parity so no advantage to the B550-based model.

>>103082413
If your budget allows for boards like that consider that the B550M Steel Legend come with 2.5G LAN which might be useful for filesharing across the NAS. Also comes with higher quality caps than the budget boards (no real telling if it makes a difference in lifespan other than peace of mind)
https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/B550M%20Steel%20Legend/#Specification

Of course you can buy a nice faster LAN PCIe Card and slap it into the cheaper boards easily if 1Gbps transfer is too slow, so consider their prices and the premium the Legend has over the cheaper mATX boards in >>103082357

>>103081668
I've got 7900xtx and it werks

What relatively cheap mobo would you get for a 7800x3d?
I've been looking at the Asrock b650 Riptide and Asrock x870 Pro RS

Please don't say just get the Taichi/Lite

>>103082458
b550m steel legend is pretty neat desu. But IDK if its worth more than b550m wifi se. Its more expensive than b650m hdv/m.2. I might even be able to go full am5 if I get that board.

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Day 578 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.

>>103082504
> Please don't say just get the Taichi/Lite
Get the Nova. Seriously. It's by far the best deal of all 670/870(E) available.
And it's indeed relatively cheap. A premium board for relatively little money.
> no, I actually meant the cheapest
Oh well...

>>103082458
Here is the build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/x92WGJ

>>103082504
Get x870 Pro Rs wifi, its a great deal for the money.

>>103082504
People have told me the MSI X870 MAG Tomahawk is the best deal for an AM5 Mobo with a ton of good ports, good ssd positioning and other stuff I don't recall on top of being PCIE 5. Only downside is the yellow markings look like piss. It's 300 bucks so "relatively" cheap, at least with its feature set in comparison to more expensive options.

>>103082535
nova is sold out everywhere and $300 above its msrp as we speak

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>>103081570
never played monster hunter but the new one looks like one of the signs the reign of my 4790k/2070S complete with 16gbs ddr3 ram, 2tb mx500/8tb media hdd, and a 2014 motherboard is finally coming to an end
at least for new releases
the fact that a 2014 cpu has been relevant for this long is crazy, playing through like a dragon at 1440p@60fps+ at all times is swell
was kinda surprised i was able to play through all of ffxvi with the game only lagging noticeably in a few exploration areas, but that game does throw you a few bones in the way of cutscenes being capped to 30fps and having dlss set to quality to boot

>>103081940
I accept your concession, low IQ retard that can't even tell the difference between GPU generation

>>103082533
Don't be a waitfag, buy a cheap late 40 series before they discontinued and replaced by the overpriced +300 dollar 50 series markup.

>>103082614
Get taichi lite if you need it now, else wait for that board.

>>103082618
your concession was already filed when you whined because I was comparing their current product to AMDs current products which are superior, even if they put the XE3 tile on 18A it will not compete with AMD's old 780M, let alone Strix Point or Strix Halo.
now continue crying.

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Is this any good? I bought it on sale. I did a messy job with the Thermalright TF7, it was very hard to spread so I kinda want to redo my paste job even though my thermals are fine. It's laughing at me from under the CPU.

>>103082663
I accept your concession, low IQ retard

>>103082663
>>103082698
CONFESSION you inbred americans CONFESSION

>>103082663
>>103082698
>>103082711
I accept both of your concessions
I don't know what they're about but you're both accepted

>>103082504
I got the Pro RS WiFi version, even though I don't use wifi I figured extra $10 in case I want it later was no big deal.

Here's my findings:
It's good, no major bugs or issues, XMP memory profile works but makes it take like 60 seconds to post after you make BIOS changes because it's "training" the memory or something. I thought it was broken but it's not it just takes a while.
You only get 2 SATA ports unrestricted. If you use 3rd or 4th, the 2nd nvme slot drops to pcie3 speeds.
If you use the 3rd nvme slot, pcie slot 2 is disabled. So you can either have 3 nvme drives or 2 pcie slot devices but not both.

I find these limitations acceptable since I only have 2 SATA drives, 2 nvme drives, and 1 pcie card.

I tested 197 on international IQ

>>103082504
B650M-HDV/M2

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>>103082698
keep coping.

>>103081668
>>103082462
now im checking and looks like the power is set to lower than specs and some of the lcocks seems lower than specs too

why things cant just owrk

https://www.techpowerup.com/328424/amd-falling-behind-radeon-dgpus-absent-from-steams-top-20

>In the top 20 most commonly used GPUs, not a single discrete SKU was based on AMD

>>103081141
If the PSU is bottom mounted don't worry about it just make sure it has a few inches of clearance to vent well.

>>103082734
> I thought it was broken
Just look at the debug code LED. Every decent board has one.

>>103082626
At that point, I'd probably just get a small AMD 6800 upgrade or some shit and then keep waiting.

>>103082614
Sorry to hear that. I got mine for €347 the very moment it appeared at mindfactory about a month ago. I thought Asrock must be out of their minds when I compared specs and prices. If it was possible to produce and sell such a premium board for this price how overpriced are the others really?

>>103082977
It seems to be available for €376,99 atm.
https://www.mindfactory.de/

>>103083020
There is only one Deutsh faggot on /pcbg/

>>103082812
No 3090(ti), 4090 is so down. This is the normies. 4chin faggots are flush with cash.

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>Our StealthSense Technology effectively eliminates the need for sense wires to run from the GPU to your power supply. With our patent-pending design, this all-new connector features a hidden bridge which signals to the GPU that a full 600W is available to be used.
but what if you DON'T have a full 600W to use? Something like a 4070tiS can run off a 650W psu, so with the rest of your component's draw taken into account there technically won't be the full 600W the cable's signaling right?

>>103082812
people reported their newer AMD cards were not getting detected correctly in the hardware survey despite older cards being detected correctly for them

>>103083187
You'd need some heavy OC, likely with modification, to get a 4070TiS to pull anywhere close to 600W.

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NVIDIA WON

THANK YOU NVIDIA

>>103083225
>amd $800 destroying a $1000 nvidia
holy fug

>Samsung 990 pro 2TB at $149
should i still wait for Blackfriday?

>>103083233
Don't anon. Just get it.

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>>103082752
This is one board that I can never finbd.

>>103083239
im starting a new PC so my only fear is a combo deal but i doubt Samsung does combo deals

Planning to upgrade to 9800x3d from 5800x3d, so I'm gonna need a new mobo. I saw that there isn't much difference between x670 and x870, and the cheapest I've found that doesn't look like trash is x670e gaming plus from msi, but is msi still good nowdays? The b450 gaming pro carbon ac i still have has had no issues at all these past years, but I know better than to just trust a company from prior experiences.
Are there better mobos i should look out for?

>>103083248
genuinely think about whether you actually need the 9800x3d, 5800x3d is already a very strong cpu

>>103083233
Wait on it. Cheaper last month during prime. The 4tb went for like $100 more.

>>103083248
b650e = x870
I bought x870 pro rs wifi because it was so cheap. Checkout asrock lineup.

>>103083254
This

What is the best way to sell an individual component from my PC, is it still eBay?
I want to upgrade from a 12 gen i5-12600k to a 14th gen i9 but ideally want to sell the old one for some extra cash.

>>103083248
> upgrade to 9800x3d from 5800x3d
Buying a new Motherboard, CPU and RAM just to get how many fps more? Depends on the resolution you play in oc but I (4k) don't think it's worth it. Rather get a faster GPU.

>>103083255
>$265.99 on prime day
thanks anon!

>>103083225
Won what?

>>103083246
the pro rs is basically the same thing with fancier shrouds

>>103083314
b650m pro rs costs more though. I think by 40bux. x870pro rs might even be a better value. IDK.

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asrock boards are garbage since they cunt run >7600mhz memory

is there a big difference between 7600mhz and 8100mhz?

>>103083351
8000mhz 2:1 > 6400mhz 1:1 > 7600mhz 2:1

>>103083339
I won't run more than 6400MHz anyway with my 96GB. And even if I could it wouldn't be worth the hassle. Go buy an Assus board for just double the money to win the synthetic benchmark contest. I rather get more RAM than royal RAM.

>>103083339
That guy is a faggot. He couldn't get taichi lite to run 8000?

>>103083254
>>103083310
I know the 5800x3d is still strong, but the newest slop is becoming more and more cpu demanding. During the monster hunter wilds beta test it quite consistently went below 50fps and 40s, and i know already im going to play that game for a cumulative of 1k+ hours. Upgrading to a 7800x3d would already give me the boost needed to get a stable framerate, so 20+fps depending on scenario. Also the 9800x3d looks like a big upgrade just for the simple fact that they fixed the 3d cache issue by putting it under the ccd so itll run at higher clocks which is nice for applications that don't scale with l3 cache size.

>>103083188
The survey is incorrect anyways. All Navi 21 GPUs should be counted the same but they count them separate. 6900xt/6950xt are the same GPU die only difference is memory speed by default.

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>>103080305
How's this monitor MSI MPG 321URX

Is burn-in anxiety real and justified? I'm the type who uses my computer for like most of the day but I turn it off when I sleep

>>103083339
>>103083407
Weren't Asus and Gigabyte mobos cooking 3D-cache in CPUs not so long ago due to some firmware bug?

>>103083561
No I think you're mistaken

>>103083477
You're basically letting the devs bend you over & rape you sideways because the game is obnoxiously badly optimized, even for today's standards and instead of complaining or refunding, you just spend more money.

>>103083561
it wasn't a bug, it was AMD telling motherboard vendors not to exceed the SOC voltage and they ignored it so AMD had to set the maximum in AGESA

>>103083477
>40fps on a 5800X3D
And people are really being told a 12400F is enough for gaming

>>103083674
It's if you target 1080p@60fps in not so newish games.

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-gpu-users-must-update-driver-8-high-risk-vulnerabilities-found/amp/
Nvidia drivers are insecure, this wouldn't happen with AMD drivers

>>103083339
you mean hardware unboxed couldn't get them to run more than 7600
important difference

>>103083477
If you try to compete with hardware against garbage software you will always lose.

> i know already im going to play that game for a cumulative of 1k+ hours
A tragic fate. I'm drenched in tears.

>>103083339
retarded ausfailians

>>103083596
>>103083751
Their in-house engine is ass, yes, but the game itself is good, and i wouldn't have bought it if I wouldn't have liked it, like monster hunter rise. That game just didn't click with me.

>>103083731
Yeah it's
>couldn't get prime95 to run for an hour at standard settings for anything over this speed
With tweaks prime95 can be stable at 8000 but they're not testing for that

>>103083791
that tells us nothing about how good the memory topology is then, only the effectiveness of each vendor's EXPO configuration in bruteforcing an hour of prime95
useless test

>>103083818
Nah, it's useful for idiots who are too timid to enter the bios that they just have to enable expo on their 8000 kit

>>103083855
if you buy an 8000 kit expecting to run EXPO you're an idiot
same thing as buying a DDR4-4000 XMP kit back in the day
i guarantee none of those boards pass an 8 hour karhu or TM5 run at 8000 "stock"

>>103083778
I mean yeah at that point there's not much to do. If you know you're gonna play it a ton, aren't happy with the performance and don't have faith they'll fix it you kinda have to upgrade
Make sure to check benchmarks for various CPUs though. Maybe 3D cache doesn't do anything for mh wilds and the only thing that matters is single core clock, in which case some other CPU might beat it

>>103083867
>karhu
Finns are qt.

fishtanks cases are pure sovl
im glad they replaced tempered glass and metal panels blocking and choking fans because "muh mesh ugly"

>>103083778
> monster hunter wilds
What I've seen so far doesn't come close to, let's say, Elden Ring or Black Myth Wukong in neither art design nor gameplay. Your fascination with it maybe relies on the co-op fun if there is one to be expected, idk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk3GX74lu1I

>>103083778
>>103083924
Monster Hunter peaked with World. Every game since then has been a soulless grab.

Do I need to remind you of the Mr Beast promo or how Capcom wants everyone to play mobile MH games over real games?

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I can't fix this cables.vit seems like zoomers have less cables or something.

Well, at least they aren't laying on a ground.

>>103083939
>Do I need to remind you of the Mr Beast promo or how Capcom wants everyone to play mobile MH games over real games?
They're just doing that investor bro bullshit where you throw a billion dollars at every cross-media product to increase brand awareness while watering own what made their franchise unique then find themselves in a hole

>>103083972
Should also say that this isn't the first time this has happened. Its part of their Capcom cycle where they get a bit too big for their britches and get knocked down a peg. Basically all their latest projects have been failures but it'll be another 5yrs before we see how this really plays out.

>>103083972
the transmedia strategy only works for kids games / autistic audiences like sonic or minecraft. it doesn't work on adults. the average monster hunter player is in their 20-30s.

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>>103083960
> it seems
Fix

>>103083960
You are not doing it right, mate. Your window-PC needs to sit on your desk so you can marvel at it's internal bling at any time and think "it was worth the xtra for RGB". Just move display and keyboard a little to the left and it will fit, trust me.

>>103084001
Their games are still selling very well though. Even Wilds beta had more peak players than World launch so they aren't panicking.

Are there any cases which can support a 420mm top radiator and which have an optical drive bay?

>>103084016
I can't see the RGB of your RAM DIMMS glow. Did you - horribile dictu - cheap out?

>>103084058
optical drive bay

>>103084071
NTA, I couldn't find a non rgbt ram with the same spec as my rgbt garbage. I'm not paying extra to not have rgbt. I couldn't figure out a way to disable rgbt yet. But it'll be disabled at some point.

>>103084125
I got me ripjaws m5 instead of trident z5, had identical specs but no RGBTQ+ and 30 bucks cheaper.

>>103084181
The retailers don't stock not rgbt ram here. The ones that they do have worse timings and is more expensive. I bought Kingston fury beast.

A bit funny to me that half the this particular thread is people clearly looking to upgrade because of Wilds.

>>103084200
you should not spend hundreds of dollars for a single game thats unoptimized to hell because the dev team is outsourced to indians who are paid $4 an hour

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dr3gXR
I have 1.1k usd and a dream of high quality 1080p
Is this as good as im getting if im not buying used?

I have a dual chamber case that has the PSU mounted sideways, so the fan sucks in air from the side of the case
I'd like to put my desktop against the wall, how much clearance should I have to make sure the PSU isn't suffocating?

>>103084200
They should worry about that when the game actually comes out. There are no game ready drivers and its specifically a Network Telemetry test so ofc its gonna run like shit.

>>103084032
> "it was worth the xtra for RGB".
I was searched for something without RGB, it turned out that it's too pricy for me. It's rtx4080@7800x3d build and paying $400 for fractal north is too expensive.
So I grabbed decent montech.
>>103084071
To be honest I was happy to find something without RGB at all, but it 20-40% more expensive.

>>103080305
I think I'm getting pre-PC building anxiety. I unironically had a dream today where I finally bought all the parts I needed to build my new PC and everything is working perfectly, but then I check my UPS and the VA was below the PSU wattage. I literally had to double-check after I woke up to see if I had not bought the wrong VA to my PSU wattage.

Did you guys notice that chinese GPU brands are just now slapping AI art on their boxes?

>>103084249
Also need to half performance for Denuvo and Obsidium DRM because they need you to pay $5 or those appearance customization tickets.

>>103084273
I've also noticed this with monitors, I noticed an AOC monitor that had the monitor displaying some ai art

what's a good website to compare gpus, their power and performances per $? I saw one posted here a long ago but can't remember the url

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>>103084273
> Did you guys notice that chinese GPU brands are just now slapping AI art on their boxes?
This was always like that

>>103084294
not userbenchmark, that's for sure

>>103084289
I think its fascinating.

>>103084308
Those were 3D renders done by a human 3D artist.

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>>103084273
weebs buy up the ai generated waifus

>>103084229
Not the worst I've seen. Can you confirm you're located in the US?

>>103084311
nah, not that shit, it was something like gpucheck or whatever, you could see the multiple recent gpus with their performance to $ ratio and it was only gpu oriented

>>103084229
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gsmNnp
7600 offers virtually identical performance at a lower price and is a tad easier to cool. Consider 7500f
Slightly better cooler
B650M version of the board is cheaper
CL30 ram that's barely any more expensive
7700XT is a nice step up and will be very comfortable at 1080p
Much better case
+100w on the PSU and ATX3.0 should you go Nvidia in the future

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>>103081295
>$/GB
You're buying a whole video card, not the fucking VRAM lmao.
People preferring to buy GeForce cards with less VRAM in practically all price brackets says it all.

I'm still using my 1080ti and while it is still flawless for 1080p gaming it struggles in VR. Are any of the newer GPUs actually able to handle VR with decent performance or is it still too much? I don't want to upgrade and still have a sub-par VR performance.

>>103084229
Consider getting a used gpu, just this one part. You might get good deals when new gen cards get released.
I want to hit people who suggest seasonic psus for budget builds with a bat. Get a different psu. I fucking hate noctua for the same reason.
Get cl30 ddr5 6000 ram.
B650m hdv/m.2 or b650m pro rs.
Isn't there a better ssd?

>all this shit about MHWilds performance
That's classic Capcom, they put more effort into optimizing competitive games like SF series.
The other games are targeting console 30 FPS & anything better on PC is a bonus to those guys.
The wildlife systems in these games aren't complicated enough to fully utilize every thread in a modern CPU.
The engine & game designers @ Capcom just don't care or they're too stretched to tackle it.

People buy these games anyway. I had fun playing MHWorld with JP players on my base PS4.
DD2 and RE4RE proved it.

To the anon who recommended me the Samson SR850: this sounds like a phone speaker, wtf

>>103084528
kek

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>>103084528
You are supposed to put your sr850 on your head. Ok, jk.

Why didn't you get a snoy 7506 for closed back? Or philips shp9500 for open back?

>>103084528
>40 dollar "budget headphones"

>>103084587
My old "gaming" headset was even cheaper and sounds better lmao

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Was pewds based all along?

>>103084611
He always was, though I don't get the context of this post.

>>103084058
>>103084089
Antec flux pro can fit a 420 on both top and front apparently, and a 360 on bottom too.

>>103084632
I saw some clips him shitting on MrBeast, then I saw his son and I remembered the bridge thing. Mein nigga is based.

>>103084611
>>103084668
Older youtubers have been shitting on Mr. Beast since the beginning. I remember a Jacksepticeye video where he went through a lie detector and just confessed that he disliked Mr. Beast's video formats and how he was just speeding up the process of youtube videos just becoming these spectacles with nothing interesting in them.

What's some good thermal paste? I've been using a noctua tube that came with my cooler 5 years ago.

>>103084698
Arctic mx4 and mx6.

So why exactly is 4k a "meme" anyway?
I noticed a huge increase in quality going from 1080p to 1440. Wouldn't I notice a similar increase going to 4k?

>>103084259
> it 20-40% more expensive
But not because it lacked fancy colors, right?

>>103084728
>So why exactly is 4k a "meme" anyway?
No one has ever considered it a meme except for coping poorfags and the ignorant. You'll get diminishing returns with <32in panels, but it's fucking fantastic for everything else. I'll stand by this, the 42in OLED TVs LG makes provide the best gaming experience you can have at your desk. It's the perfect size, plus it's extremely brights. Also great for watching movies.

Yes, you would notice an increase, but ONLY if you're going for >32in, preferably larger (42in :^).)

>>103081570
I have a 14700k/4070 and I struggle to maintain 70 fps @1440p mostly high settings with dlss on. The game is just horribly optimized because Jap devs can't into PC.

>>103084728
The difference is minimal on a close up monitor, for gaming it's a meme because no GPU can handle 4k without DLSS (news flash you're playing in 1440p but shittier then). It's alright for big TVs and for using editing software though.

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>>103084698
paste is obsolete

>>103084728
Ever heard of diminishing returns? 1440p-1800p is the sweetspot for memory bandwidth primarily. 4K isn't until GDDR7.

>>103084728
No, not a similar increase in qt. But you would/should get a significant larger display with it. Whenever I switch from my 32" to my 27" it feels like 24" again. I sure could live with 27" but 32" feels more complete, comfy, near perfect size at the distance I use it on my large desk.

Why are headphones so expensive, aren't they just some copper coil on an element wrapped in plastic? I understand why cpus and gpus are expensive since they need a new muliti billion dollar fab to built every few years but headphones cost makes no sense.

>>103084803
>liquid metal
Is that the new meme?

>>103084875
Yachts don't buy themselves you know

>>103084875
Audeze aren't that expensive.

>>103084875
> Why are headphones so expensive
Why is anything "hobby" or "enthusiast" so expensive?
Of course there are cheap headphones but you want one that is "en vogue", right?

>>103084694
>>103084632
Wagmi bros, we are gonna gonna get married and have kids some day.

>>103084889
phase change material. same performance as liquid metal, none of the short circuit risk, easy to slap on instead of having to baby it.

I tire of my sandy bridge i5. Time to upgrade to am4.

Getting back into gaming after almost a decade, pretty much have an unlimited budget for a build. I understand SLI and meaningful overclocking are dead, so is there nothing better to get than a 4090 and a consumer-grade x3D Ryzen? Seems kind of, anticlimactic, I guess?

>>103085025
Come to am5 anon, it'll probably cost the same.

>>103085095
I compared it and it's so much more expensive. Wallet death by a thousand cuts really. And for a small gain.

By the time pci-e 5.0 becomes relevant am6 might be around the corner anyways.

>>103085095
>it'll probably cost the same.
(it wont)

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>undervolt CPU
>all my heating problems go away
it can't be that easy

>>103082617
Same here but I have a 970, I think it's finally time to upgrade

Is there a decent mid-high range build for EU people for 1440p gaming that's under 1.7k? Or should I wait until black Friday?

>>103085137
>it also runs faster now

Fucking ryzen magic. Why don't they just undervolt the things by default?

>>103085088
Spend the rest on getting 10g network, a proper nas with backups. Your own pfsense router. There is overclocking still. Its fun to get ddr5-8000 with tight timings, buildzoid is leading there.

Not gaming, if you are interested in running llama 3.1 models, you would use multi gpu setups. The more the gpus you have, the bigger the model and better the quality of response. I've seen people run 3 to 6 3090s.

>>103085137
>>103085156
also all your coil whine problems go away too. oc gpu bios = coil whine, manual undervolt = no coil whine

>>103085156
There are very bad bins out there. My old 2700X would fail OCCT after an hour even with -0.0125V.

>>103085135
>>103085119
Show me your build, lets do it.

>>103084575
Because I was told headsets were a scam and that some cheap headphones (specifically the Samson's) and a seperate mic would grant me better sound quality for less money. Now I have a cluttered desktop and some headphones that need a third party software to sound just like normal headphones.
Don't be like me. Just buy a headset for 70 bucks or so.

>>103085088
For purely gaymin? Yeah pretty much. If you're determined to be a retard and waste money on getting the "best" specs you could wait for the 5090 in january.

>>103085177
no.
ddr5 and motherboards all cost significantly more

>>103085156
that wouldn't be an undervolt anymore
maybe you're asking why they leave so much performance headroom on the table, the reason is because they didn't for ryzen 3000 and a lot of people got mad when their CPUs didn't hit the maximum advertised boost clocks

>>103085190
I have separate mic and headphone. snoy 7506 and blue snowball ice. If I wanted to go cheaper than 7506, I'd buy moondrop chu2 or something from truthear. IEMs are awesome these days.

>>103084803
I hope PTM is worth it
$25 for essentially 2 applications is way more than I could ever conceivably pay for TIM
Especially since I have a giant stash of shin etsu micro si I've stolen and use on everything else.

At the same time I really don't want to repaste my GPU after putting a block on it and a 14900k does need all the help it can get.

>>103085177

combo to beat:

cpu: 5700x3d
cooler: peerless assassin
mobo: asrock pro4 b550m
ram: 4*8gb of kingston fury 3600mhz cl 16

392.37 usd on pcpartpicker

>>103085235
just hope you bought the real thing and not knockoffs.

>>103085162
>10Gb network
I'm on 2.5Gb currently, which is the maximum available in my town (business customers included), but none of my devices even support that much. I could futureproof, I guess, but is there any tangible benefit?
>NAS
I'm pretty much the opposite of a data hoarder, my backups are just scans of documents and such, and I've got dozens of copies between places I own, family and friends.
>Models
I'm not up to date on the AI situation, are those things even worth it if I don't want to talk to bots or make porn?
>3 to 6 3090s
So is SLI dead or not? Or is it just not supported by games?
>>103085193
Will the 5090 be a big improvement over the 4090? I kind of want to get something within a week or so.

>>103085266
Getting it from moddiy which is one of the more legit places to get it.

Honeywell is really missing out on making a retail product

>>103085292
>Will the 5090 be a big improvement over the 4090?
Not enough to make it worth an extra 2000 burgers to upgrade from a 4090. It's a tremendous waste of money just for gaming.

>>103080476
DO NOT GET A B450 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>103085391
Yeah a b450 is too much. Gen 4 pci-e is already useful.

>>103085384
Man, I just went through a bad breakup and got a big promotion, at this point I'm just looking for excuses to waste money.

Also somebody please recommend me an overkill monitor, I can handle picking PC parts but I'm completely clueless on screens (currently using a TV).

>>103085423
>Gen 4 pci-e is already useful
not really.
game loads times are same as gen 3
gpu fps is same too
95% of what you do on a pc is bottlenecked by latency not bandwidth

>>103080711
are the prices for the 4070 Ti Super going to sky rocket now?
since it's the best affordable 16GB GPU?

>>103085239
Hit me with that am5 counter please.

>Live in the 3rd world
>Buying things from Amazon and shipping them across the world is drastically cheaper due to all the trade barriers
>Even when it more than doubles its price
A $160 monitor (the Asrock in the OP) becomes $360 and it's STILL cheaper. Though oddly enough it doesn't apply to CPUs and GPUs.

>>103085239
$446 and idk if it's better:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LbGZFs
Its 7600 and you could replace it with 8700f or 8600g. You might be right anon. See if you like this.

>>103085442
If you're in a mood to splash the cash then get an OLED. There's plenty of autism about the different kinds flying around but they're all far better than any LCD.

>>103085467
7900gre?

Life of a waitfag blog. I was a waitfag forever, I stalled for 3 years on buying a pc and then a few years ago I just said fuck it and got one.

8gb vram became immediately obsolete after, I mean they really started getting shit talked within like 4 months of me buying one
Socket AM5 released a little over a year later, now I'm stuck on AM4 with extremely limited upgrade paths, really there only is one and that's 5700X3D

>>103085477
for me its impossible to buy in tge international amazon, to many taxes the value doubles

>>103085442
Sorry to hear that anon. Is wasting that much money really going to make you feel better though? You can get a great gaming PC for the price of just the 4090 alone.
Maybe splurge on an OLED screen instead of a stupidly overpriced graphics card.

>>103085499
I've been living way below my means ever since I got my first job. I own my home, I don't have (or need) a car, I have no vices and no debt. Might as well spend my money on something non-destructive, since women (the big expense my boomer coworkers recommended) clearly don't belong in that category.

>>103085467
4070 ti super is a huge scam card bro. 7800xt/7900gre are more sensible picks.

>>103085521
Well if that's what you really want I won't stop you. Hope building an over the top machine brings you some joy anon.

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How can I squeeze whatever I have left on these?
MHWilds made me realize I'm far behind now.
Would overclocking be worth it? And ignore the RAM, already upgraded that years ago.

>>103085521
get a pc ofc, get a car, a motorcycle or even a scooter. Its right of passage for being a man. You need your ride. Get a girl too. Keep following what you learnt and learn more things, there is much more to life, talk to grills anon.

>>103085621
its hard to take advice here when people here dont even live in the USA but in some bumfuck euro or SEA country.

>>103085603
Newer gpu?

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>>103085488
You think that's bad. I bought a gtx 280 back in the day and then directx 11 heemed me... within a year or 2 my card was useless

>>103085603
MH specifically is complete and utter pajeetware so anything less than a full upgrade won't cut it. If you can't afford everything now start with just the GPU but it'll probably just make your 20fps looks slightly better.

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I need somewhere to vent
>dumb poorfag friend finally saves enough money to build a budget pc
>sends his build for me to validate
>ask him why upgrade now instead of waiting ~half a year until 50xx release
>says he's tired of his ancient dying pc, not going to wait anymore
>check the build
>12400f
>16gb ram
>okay mobo, 2x gen 4 nvme slots
>so far okay, whatever
>then I noootice
>1440p monitor
>4060Ti 16gb
>SATA SSD as a boot drive
>overpriced samsung 1tb gen 3 nvme
>what the fuck are you doing nigger
>urge him to swap both drives to gen 4 nvme, which would actually save a decent chunk of money
>use the saved money to upgrade to a 7900gre (there was a 2 fan version for just a tiny little more than his 4060ti)
>he buys the pc a couple days later
>as I help him set up, get a glance of his specs
>retarded fucker left the 4060Ti and the overpriced gen 3 ssd and only swapped the boot drive
I honestly wanted to strangle him for a moment, but w/e, it's his money and his retarded choices, although I am still annoyed

>>103085478
The 7600 isn't bad either, if you want ok performance on the cheap. Motherboard is alright too. I guess that is about equivalent, yeah.

>>103085603
>Would overclocking be worth it?
yes, but don't expect to do better than a ryzen 5600

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Why the hell are AMD board partners so much better than Nvidia? Cards themselves are worse but holy shit the quality and design is a galaxy apart.

>>103085752
It's just Sapphire and XFX vastly skewing your perception. They have always been the GOAT along with EVGA.

>>103085706
I have an 10700k, 3060, 1tb sn850x, 4tb 870 evo...

But. I'm using my 9 year old sata 256gb adata su800 as my os drive. Slowest drive in the pc. Gotta understand that when I first upgraded from 4th gen i7 to 10th gen it was my only ssd, rest were spinning rust drives.

I will say in spite of being an old small drive that wasn't even high end in 2016 my system is extremely smooth and snappy so I never felt the urge to reinstall or copy my os to one of the other drives. I doubt the sata drive is causing his issues. Probably him being retarded and installing a fuckload of bloat and/or buying a prebuilt.

>>103085801
Powercolor is amazing too and Asrock GPUs are great for a while.

>>103085813
Er I misunderstood, still, I doubt the sata drive will have any impact on his experience.

>>103085544
Is this still true if you care about VR? From what little knowledge I have, I thought

>Nvidia = lower power draw, more expensive, reliance on AI for future proofing
>AMD = higher power draw, cheaper, reliance on brute force power for future proofing

>>103085873
If you're even considering using memescaling for VR then your eyes are fucking broken and I don't know what else to tell you.

>>103085844
it's still fucking retarded to buy a brand new SATA SSD to use as a boot drive when you have a vacant m.2 slot in your mobo and a comparable gen 4 nvme drive costs less than said SATA SSD
although again, swapping the boot drive is the only thing he actually listened to from my advice

>>103085894
I meant that as a separate point, is it still true that AMD is shit for VR?

>>103085873
>>103085937
PS5 and PS5 Pro are RDNA2/RDNA4 are they have one of the best VR with PSVR2.

wheres the next breed

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Pic rel is my current desktop(first ever build from nov '21)
I've been itching to consoom for it by either throwing a 4070(ti?) super in it and possibly changing to a 5800x3d if needed.
Are my current components still decent by todays standards that a new GPU and possibly CPU will keep it relevant for the next 3+ years? or should i just bite the bullet and start a whole new build entirely?
Also, i'll need to get a1440p monitor since i've been using a 1080p

>>103085235
I bought some very obvious fakes for $8 for two 40x40 pieces + shipping and it's still better than my old paste with none of the application and removal pain.

>>103085025
> Time to upgrade to am4
If it provides all that you really need, now and in the foreseeable future, then you can save quite a few bucks like this. Sometimes good enough is good enough.

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>>103086036
im not allowed to make bread

>>103082812
All those 4060s and none of them will be able to run wilds lmao

when has a pc part ever been killed with static shock from touching it after buildup? everyone talks about it like if you dont ground yourself before you touch your gpu its fried, but i have never seen this happen to anything

>>103083225
Man 30xx cards became obsolete so fast

>>103085143
> under 1.7k?
AM4 Mobo + 5700X3D + 32GB DDR4 3600CL16 + 4070 TiS
130 + 175 + 75 + 820 = 1200 (Euro prices, US would be even less)
And you still got the bucks for ample fast storage. Or get the 4080 Duper.

>>103085239
> asrock pro4 b550m
For just very little more you get the MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk.

>>103083310
If he's upgrading for wilds a faster gpu won't make a difference, even a 7800x3d is getting bottlenecked

>>103086665
Yeah it's definitely super rare but it's hundreds of bucks down the drain if it happens so no reason to risk it.

Any 1080p 27" (non curved) monitor suggestions aside from the ones in the OP?

>>103085292
It would be stupid to buy a 4090 for a price even 200 over it's 2 year old MSRP when the 40% faster and 8GB bigger 5090 is just around the corner and won't cost more than this. It will certainly be worth the patience. Your buyer's remorse would be more painful than your breakup. Don't make yourself more of a loser than you already are.

>>103086718
> 7800x3d is getting bottlenecked
you mean bottlenecking? the gpu?

>>103084728
4k is a "meme" because only the 4090 can reliably run that resolution at 60 fps native

>>103086816
You consider it a sacrilege to make use of DSSL despite it looking better than native. Is this some religious belief or fanatism? It's clearly not rational.

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Using AMD CPUs+GPUs on Linux is like unlocking Super Saiyan 3. All your limiters are removed and you just feel the power of your hard(work)ware.

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>>103086956
> Linux
great for server, crap for gaymin