>>103102933
Digits confirm. Job havers rule the day.

>bullshit meeting about how to work better as a team
>everyone is WFH or semi WFH
>people mentions how in past when they were in office they "felt a deeper connection with team mates"
Fuck those guys. After the meeting on a 1-1 with my manager I said I absolutely don't want that

>>103103249
I'm somewhat torn on it. On one side I enjoyed the freedom of fully remote. On the other it's pretty based to be able to get together and whiteboard with coworkers for a solution instead of fucking around with lucid charts or some shit.

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I have an interview next week and they are looking for someone with Excel vba experience. How can I learn this shit and how do I present myself good in the interview?

>>103102933
so what do you think trump will do for tech jobs?

>>103103494
Inflate asset prices are make my RSU value go through the roof. Give confidence to tech companies so I can go back to the good old days of coasting and not doing much while I collect money.

>>103103494
Kick the Indians out.

>>103103552
He literally said he would do the opposite, and give them free green cards for having bribed their local degree mill.

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>>103103494
Dunno whatever it says in project 2025.

>>103103560
He's not going to do that. It would instantly flatten the country. Canada did that and it completely killed their economy.

>>103103552
Been under a rock lately, pal?

>everyone on my team taking a mental health day
We coast today

>join all calls few minutes late on purpose so i don't have to make small talk about the election
should probably do this more desu

>dude who did the same Master's as me sends a connection request on linkedin
>prior to graduating he ignored me when i had asked him to send me a prof's notes when i was very sick
>he's unemployed and sending his resume to everyone on linkedin

Ha, fucker.

>>103103694
Degrees are all about networking. The paper doesn't really matter that much. He fucked up.

>>103103660
>>103103671
>>103103692
I work tonight and just realized how cringe it's going to be. Remembrance day is gonna be even worse.

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>have to filter company on linkedin because the dumb HR cunt is making brand new listings for the same 3 jobs literally every single morning for 2 weeks and counting

>>103103612
>He wouldn't do that, that would be stupid!
How is that a guarantee of anything, you fucking retard? The last 400 years of humanity have been nothing but stupid shit after stupid shit.

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POLL

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>>103103709
>Degrees are all about networking.
with faggots who speak fag hebrew
>The paper doesn't really matter that much.
in the US certainly, your right to free speech allows you to say whoever you are as what you want only to the point of fraud which has to include real damages incurred by your façade and not a corporate vetting failure
just the game of capital, only commies need the state to vet what you cant be bothered to

>>103103824
what the fuck are you talking about? this thread is for EMPLOYED people you fuck

So how many of your coworkers are taking day offs today due to all mental stress

>>103103289
Well, fuck you too. You can comute 30-60mins every hour and suck each other's cock if you like it so much

>>103103834
honestly I'm considering it just because attendance has been down in general and every time I go in it's a huge waste of time because our job is to train people who never fucking show up so we just sit around telling deployment stories among the people who are basically as trained as they will get. but I just got a new apartment so I could use the money

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>>103103834
>didnt vote
>dont believe in voting
>still stayed up to 3am to watch the spectacle
>took the day off

>>103103861
congrats on your apartment. check if your company has a day off for move in

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>>103103834
I'm just doing my 0-2 hours of work as usual.

>>103103921
it's a weird lease transfer situation, it's more that I've taken complete control of a place i was already renting but that means I have to pay a security deposit and my expenses have basically instantly doubled now that it's not shared with a bunch of people

i dont need the money *that* much since i have tons of savings but number must go up

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Trump won.

If only you knew how good things are going to be.

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>told my boss i was taking the day off to go vote yesterday
>spent day shitposting on 4chan instead
>told my boss i needed a mental health day off today to process the results
>going to spend the day shitposting on 4chan instead

>>103104048
based, I visit health center once a month

>>103103824
>He doesn't live in the US
Well then your opinion literally doesn't matter. For what these companies pay you you're basically making the same as somebody that works at a grocery store here. I don't care if networking doesn't help you in your commie hell hole.
Here in America, where all of the worthwhile tech companies are located, networking is the single most important part of going to college. Stay mad about it.

>>103103842
My commute is like 20 minutes on a bad day. Not my problem.

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i love debt.

im just dumb, but managed to land a 76k it support to carry me through

>>103104151
Both ways?

Well, mine is 5 seconds from bed to my desk and I want it to remain that way.

>>103104176
Are you American?

>>103104192
europoor

>>103104214
Invalid opinion from a minimum wage worker.

>>103104299
hah, enjoy your commute faggot

>>103104192
are you BLACK

>>103103824
manually vet this aluminum powder diluted in water

>>103104175
do normies really live like this

>>103104340
that's... that's just a perfectly safe suspension. in fact, it's a particularly expensive way of making mediocre white paint. so much so that people actually making pyrotechnics on the down-low extract it from white artist's paint if they can't safely grind down solid aluminum

>>103104036
Kike 1 vs Kike 2 politics don't change the fact that you're still being ruled by a kike. Also, nothing ever happens, and this won't change.

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>>103104175
>30% rate
What in the godliving shit of FUCK? What in the god fucking DAMN is going on in the Jew S of A?

>>103104175
The kind of debt that really confuses me is the tiny stuff
Credit cards I understand, large debts like cars and houses I understand. Who on earth thinks it's worth the mental load to take two years to pay down an $800 debt? Just fucking pay it off and forget about it

>>103104175
wondered what heloc is
>A home equity line of credit, also known as a HELOC, is a line of credit secured by your home that gives you a revolving credit line to use for large expenses or to consolidate higher-interest rate debt on other loans such as credit cards.
How one gets a loan based on a house he has mortgage on kek.

>>103104324
I do actually. It's short and comfy.

>>103104335
Imagine not being black.

>>103104468
>I enjoy sucking cocks when they are short and cute

>>103104175
Amutticans get into this shit and then have the gall to call others poor

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Come on, guys, I know you all work for bobogobo LGBBQ+ companies. I know your coworkers have seethed about the elections on Slack or Teams. Post those screenshots.

>>103104501
Kys you unemployed cunt, this thread isn't for your kind

>>103104482
>He prefers a micro cock
Grim

>>103104501
I don't want to risk screenshots but majority of team is off.

>>103104423
there is an entire industry/commercial sector of "rent to own" furniture

it's driven by the same sort of normie NEED NEW THING NAO garbage that motivates retards to lease cars. some people just don't have 800 bucks lying around and don't want to put it on their credit card but for the most part it's people replacing their bed or desk set or whatever every two years

the only real reason to do them is usually the interest on it is lower than it would be on credit, generally a flat fee or not more than like 15%.

>>103104416
30% is high for a north american credit card and those with more normal 20-ish% rates often jump up to 40 or more for cash advances and a bunch of fine print about varying interest rates for different sorts of purchases so he may have just averaged best and worst case rates out. though 30% on a shitty poorfag credit card is not unheard of.

the "one main loan" thing i had to look up and apparently it's a Payday Loan type of thing. those always have exorbitant rates and honestly 35% is not as bad as it can get for those. here in canada those joints have to have warning signs out front basically reading "THIS IS A HIGH INTEREST LOAN, AT LEAST 30% M I N I M U M, DO NOT TAKE ONE OUT IF YOU'RE POOR BECAUSE YOU ARE GONNA GET POORER"

>>103104460
ads for this shit run on daytime tv all the time

it's mostly a scam to fleece pensioners who want to maintain their 70s-80s bubble economy lifestyle but have no actual cash coming in

>>103104501
I'm... I'm not a burger...
I'm so sorry you had to find this way anon

>>103104175
>120k mortgage
fucking where, I have 80k on hand and zero debt RIGHT NOW

are you guys going trick or treating

>>103104510
I am Singaporean, nigger. My company isn't political enough to care about some jews in muttmerica

>>103104647
>Singaporean
KYS

>>103104647
why do asian males want to be white so bad? you realize you'll never ever be seen as white, right?

>>103104670
I have no fucking idea.
> you'll never ever be seen as white
Tell that to my countrymen, but I'm not that delusional.

>>103104661
KYSS to you too I guess? Weird ass faggot

I'm sick of tech. Should I start an arms company or start selling weed?

>>103104690
>amazing pay
>"W"FH
What is there to hate

>>103104798
>What is there to hate
users and management

>>103104175
>$120k at 3% mortgage
Wow that's fucking amazing
>Also a HELOC
You almost got one thing right...

>>103104518
>it's driven by the same sort of normie NEED NEW THING NAO garbage that motivates retards to lease cars
I felt bad about buying a $30 sweater vest on my credit card and paying it off a week later. Reading this makes me feel much better about myself.

My boss and 3 of my coworkers just got let go. now someone from the accounting department (idk why) is now the boss of the it department. When they ask me for retarded things should I just give it to them? I want to do what I think is right and voice issues, but there is no way that this guy will understand enough to fight for his own ideas.

>>103104501
>I know you all work
kek

>>103104501
generally speaking really life isn't the internet and most people are ambivalent or bummed about it in silence.

>>103104900
same. I'm pretty sure the reason I'm rich (but not wealthy) despite not working particularly hard is that I'm cheap as fuck. I don't remember the last time I bought clothes that weren't just new underwear, and my "expensive" vices are just booze, smokes, and takeout. I've had the same furniture since I moved out of home, too

>>103104920
the role of the hell desker isn't to question. but also don't be afraid to straight up say "that is literally impossible for a lot of reasons"
protip: "i'll have to check the policy first" is a GREAT way to deflect retarded demands, and if they push, just start spouting random related technobabble. the uninitiated will get scared off by your nerd moonspeak and actually competent IT people already know that trick and will realize getting your help will be more trouble than it's worth

I'm going to play hooky from work and sew myself a new pool cue holster!

>>103104965
i am a russian in western europe and another russian coworker literally posted a wall of text today saying how she was so sorry for the american women who lost their rights or whatever the fuck. she got a few reactions on slack
if this happened in a random 100 people startup, i can't imagine what americans are doing right know kek

>>103104983
I don't smoke but booze and takeout can crush you. Ever since I quit drinking and eating out I've saved an incredible amount of money (not to mention I feel great.)

>>103105042
White Expats from any country tend to be liberal fuckwads most of the time. If they were conservative they'd stay and fight for their people.

>>103105042
god I hate women so much its unreal

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>>103104501
I voted for Kamala and work with a team of mostly women at FAANG. We've never talked about politics whatsoever. Occasionally we talk about DEI but that's because the company makes us. As for the election, the only person I know who's given it a second thought is a college friend from China whose immigration status got delayed by 4 years back when Trump was president last time. He's got a PhD and wants to do AI research in the bay area but people immigrating from China in particular have to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars in fees and sit in a wait list for several years before coming. Democrats aren't complaining about the 2024 election among their friends/coworkers anymore than non-schizo Republicans were in 2020.

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What resources should I use to get a better grasp of distributed systems? I just wrapped up DDIA today and picked up a copy of picrel.

>>103104603
It's November. Are you ok?

>>103105197
idk I was mentored by one of the people who invented a lot of the modern stuff. I didn't even know there were books on this.

>>103105197
Whenever I have a system design interview coming up, I re-watch this video to refresh my memory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUHFg8CZFws
He covers pretty much everything you need to be able to bullshit through a problem.

>duuude you're ruining your dopamine receptors
>you have to release dopamine gradually
>don't do ANYTHING pleasurable or it will release dopamine!
man what

>>103104501
You know, the normal reactions
>Elect a clown, become a circus (again)

I let a "do the needful" slip during an overly long meeting. I hope this doesn't get me put on any internal lists.

>>103105364
>internal
You fucking wish. You already have been tagged "Indian" on linkedin, visible only to recruiters

>>103105386
that will only increase his chances

>>103105364
They only know if they know and so you're safe. As long as you didn't do an accent I don't think normies even know what that is.

>did nothing all day
>still feel tired
the mere act of being online for work is a strain

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So if I want to quit my job I should just work the least amount possible and start applying like mad?

Part of me wants to quit right away to save me the mental health hassle of pretending to work at a place I don't want to work at anymore, but I guess money is nice...

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>>103105765
ask for wfh or just hang out in your car/at home half the day anyways if they decline.

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>>103105765
The real hell comes when you max out your earning potential at a place you don't enjoy being at anymore.
>Making nearly 400k TC
>work is mindless and usually totally pointless where projects are routinely thrown out after release because it didn't "move the kpi like we expected"
>Can't make the jump from tier 2 to FAGMAN because the work would be harder and even more worthless
>Can't step down to tier 3 and below because those companies pay like shit
I'm basically stuck at this company until I can retire or win the lottery. But thankfully the markets seem to love the orange man and so my net worth jumped by like 50k today alone. Retirement might actually be back on the menu in like a decade or so.

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YEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH BUDDDDDDY IT'S JOB HOPPING SEASON AGAIN WE'RE GOING +$20K/YR SOON

HOPE YOU GUYS GOT YOUR SKILLS AND CVS IN ORDER

>>103105364
i've had white people send me "do the needful" in emails. it's just part of normal business language now

>>103105898
Sometimes it do be like that. Another phrase that's a little racist but people have memed it so hard that it's just accepted at this point.
Long time no see
No can do
No go
Taboo
Etc etc

>>103105927
taboo is literally just a normal ass word, "no go" and "no can do" are just archaic once-correct grammar. long time, no see is just an abbreviation. what the fuck man youve spent too much time on pol

i lied to work about being sick to take the day off but now i actually feel sick. should i feel bad

>>103105948
Taboo is a word from Polynesian culture (tapu) for actions that would get you killed by the vicious legal system.
No can do and no go are Chinese immigrant broken English that we just accepted. Gung-ho is also a Chinese word. Turns out you can't import millions of Chinese immigrants without their phrases impacting the language.

what is an unemployed may 24 grad to do?

>>103105948
Head hancho is a Japanese term. Used to think it was Spanish but nope. 班長is the group leader.

>>103105998
He goes to >>/utwg/ and works on his resume

Sometimes I think I'm so shitty at this or how everyone else is better that I should just quit or kill myself

So I almost fainted today at work and I had to go lay down at home to recover. I couldn't see anymore. On Monday my heart started racing for no reason when I was just sitting down eating my lunch, always at work. Am I about to kick the bucket? I've been tired and stressed but didn't think it was so bad it'd start affecting my health.

>>103105830
do you live in a $10k/month apartment or is this just some bait

>>103106013
Do you have palpatations and tachycardia? In any case do some more cardiovascular exercises. That helped in my case.

>>103105988
Taboo was an English (loan) word way before memes even existed as a concept

>>103106013
Do you have long term disability? If not switch jobs, get it, then get diagnosed for whatever is fucking you up. What's your general health like? Are you fat? Diet? Caffeine intake? Medications?

>>103106026
Yes I do. I'll start doing cardio, if it helps.

>>103106022
>10k a month apartment
Why would I do that? I've got a condo that I rent out and then I live with my wife in our house that she pays the mortgage on. 100% of my salary goes into savings and investment after food and entertainment. Why?

>>103106030
No disabilities, I'm slim, I cook my own meals and try to eat balanced as much as possible, I can drink one coffee a day at most, no medications. Damn this is weird.

>>103106029
Memes have always been a thing. They're not just funny Internet images. They're viral ideas. The meme of a taboo concept was something that people could universally understand and so they took the word tapu and brought it to English as taboo with the joke being that you'd be socially beheaded for talking about that no no subject.

>originally planned to be a job hopper trading up every two years for higher pay
>been at my first job for two years now and it's so comfy and low stress (WFH) that I genuinely can't imagine ever getting this lucky again and am scared to roll the dice just for more money

>>103106042
See a doctor. Might just be exhaustion or a cold but best to get checked.

>>103106013
You need to exercise and cut down on your caloric intake and especially cut down on the fats/carbs.
Yeah you are about to die but you don't have to if you don't want to.

>>103105988
>gung-ho, taboo, hancho
loan words are not racist. jesus christ

>>103106013
nope. one time i thought i was having a genuine heart attack at work (i legit thought i was going to die because i was alone in the space and to embarrassed to leave just to tell someone I can't breathe and my chest/breast area feels tight) but im fine now

>>103106042
does it happen in particular places or at particular times? maybe you have an allergy, maybe there's a freon leak and you're suffocating a little bit every day

>>103106058
nta but the word "taboo" literally predates dawkin's invention of the term. and even then taboo means something you're not supposed to do because it's unholy, or something you shouldn't touch because it IS holy (so dont put your grubby mitts on it). it also doesn't explain why we aren't calling things haraam or some other word for forbidden/too-holy-to-touch stuff from places closer to english-speaking lands instead

>>103105830
>>103106040
why are you posting wojaks you faggot
those are for sufferers, get the fuck out

>>103106063
He's probably just been sitting on his ass eating fast food too much and literally just needs to live like a normal person. Something similar happened to me years ago and I fixed it by not eating out and walking outside for 30 minutes a day.

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So, what's YOUr excuse to not become a "prompt engineer"? Prompt engineers will more demanded than developers!

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>>103106126
>Making great money
>Not enjoying the work
>No other companies I can go to without taking a 50% pay cut
Just because I'm not a broke boy like you doesn't mean I'm not suffering in my own ways. Let me guess. You're European.

>>103106185
>So, what's YOUr excuse to not become a "prompt engineer"?
shit's gay and dumb

the msft office is very empty today

>>103106185
i have enough cash on hand for at least 3 years of pretending to have self-respect

>>103106185
I already am one. My entire team is basically prompt engineering and integration with AI models. It's bullshit but it's what we do.

yuropoor bros... its fucking over... we're never getting a US visa now

>>103106242
That sounds relaxing. Without serious RAG AI couldn't do my job because it's all internal bullshit and management is way too slow/stubborn to allow that.

>>103106263
Why the fuck would you want to move here? I'd happily take a 50% pay cut to live in a country with my family and people I grew up with and not see niggers everywhere when I go outside.

>>103106263
i got no degree so i can't escape hellope, regardless of my skills

>>103106275
because someone like me, at the same company, but US based, makes 300-400k, while I make just over 100k all-included.

>>103106275
>europe doesnt have niggers in it
nobody tell him

If I'm looking at resumes and I see you aren't already employed, your resume is going in the bin. As a hiring manager here is my thought: It’s not that I actively have a bias towards someone who is employed, but when stacking up resumes competitively against one another that bias enters. Someone who is employed has more recent, relevant experience and there’s no question about why they haven’t been working, so it puts them towards the top of the competitive set.

>>103106310
Yeah and they're probably spending more than half that on their taxes, insurance, housing, and transportation.

>>103106365
Do you also throw away half the resumes because you don't want to hire unlucky people?

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I should have went to trade school

>>103106387
We use ATS and only pick the top 5 candidates at a time for interviews. The system doesn't do any real sorting after rating them, and it's possible to get a "perfect" score, so yes there is an element of randomness and everyone past the top 5 get trashed. It's up to them to realize this and re-apply if they haven't heard back after a while.

>>103106033
It worked for me. It takes a few months of consistently doing it but it does pay off. You still have to keep stress down as best as you can unfortunately.

>>103106384
>taxes
On 350k gross, it would be around 120k in a city like NYC, so net you keep 230k.
>insurance
If you have a good company they cover your insurance.
>housing
Even if you pay 3000 per month on housing, that would only take a 36k bite out of your salary.
>transportation
kek

So you keep 190-200k NET annually. No amount of cope will make me prefer my 100k salary, that gets taxed almost 50% here, over that. We are getting completely cucked in yurop.

>>103106310
yeah but you dont have to
>be american
>get shot

>>103106242
Curious...what's your skill set? What certs do you have / what programming languages do use?

>>103106485
>If you have a good company they cover your insurance.
They do not in fact. *If you're young and healthy* your insurance company will charge you just over the federal fee ("tax") for not having insurance. Otherwise your insurance premium will be much (often multiples) higher. Some of it will be subsidized by the company but not nearly all of it. It's huge chunk of your paycheck.

Also when I said insurance I didn't just mean health insurance. In the US you buy nearly everything with debt so you have to have car and home insurance too which is almost as expensive as the debt payments themselves.

>>103106532
But I work at an American company, and talk to Americans daily. I'm told that after employer coverage, they only pay around 1000 annually for health insurance.
>car and home insurance
For someone living in NYC, they would most likely be renting and relying on public transport. All the other insurances like life, disability, etc, can't be more than a few hundred per month.

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>>103106532
>in europe they actually buy cars and houses with cash unlike murricans

>>103106592
No it's closer to twice that at the absolute cheapest because that's what the IRS charges you if you don't have health insurance (you are legally required to have health insurance in the US if you're over 25. Thanks Obama.)
If you're at the point where you're making $2-3k you're probably old enough that you've been bumped into the higher risk categories that charge multiples of that.
>For someone living in NYC, they would most likely be renting and relying on public transport.
1) $3k/month is pretty low for NYC.
2) NYC's transit is not free (or pleasant)
3) You still need a car. I lived in DC which is similarly well connected and it's just not possible to live comfortably in the US without one. Unless you want a Craigslist Toyota that probably means a loan and that means insanely expensive comprehensive car insurance (or dumping $30k into one asset and self insuring if you're happy with that.)

>>103103249
As someone new to CS, I would appreciate being able to work in the office just for the networking opportunities. I wouldn't do any meaningful networking at my current job anyway, but if I was in the States, I'd love the opportunity to form some relationships that could pay off. Then I'd like to go back to remote working.

>>103106637
>just for the networking opportunities.
Trust me it's overrated after college (and it was overrated during college too.)

how do i force myself to grind leetcode? i just have no fucking energy left after work and cooking. by the time i'm done with everything it's usually around 8pm, and i'm exhausted.

fuck im never going to leave this job

>>103106637
The greens that need closer onboarding is actually one thing that I think office environment has some use but daily online pair programming sessions on first few weeks still works well.

Also no one really hires that fresh grads so it is not a major problem

Don't worry, there are more than enough meetings that you can suck others' cocks for "networking"

>>103106630
>you are legally required to have health insurance in the US if you're over 25. Thanks Obama.
proofs? im canadian but have never heard of this

also it doesn't really address what the other anon he was saying. he said that half-decent companies will also provide health insurance. they cheap out wherever possible but it's not uncommon to have like three plans going because you have one from work, your wife has one from her work, and then you might have your own jointly or be covered by a state system or something

also also i've visited nyc and taking cabs there sucked ass because of the traffic. the subway sucks too but on the surface it's 24/7 gridlock. except for the major artery roads the streets are narrow as shit and which ones are one-way or not (and their direction) is basically random. the going joke is "no one drives in NYC, too many cars on the road/nowhere to park/etc"

>>103106624
No bet the rent in most of their countries is a lot more sane so there's less of a reason to have a mortgage and a house.

>>103106670
I just checked and it looks like they got rid of the federal penalty in 2019 https://www.healthcare.gov/taxes-2019/no-health-coverage/
>Unlike in past tax years, if you didn’t have coverage during 2019, the fee no longer applies. This means you don’t need an exemption in order to avoid the penalty.
States, on the other hand, can still penalize you.

>>103106529
No certs. Just a cs degree. Fell into it naturally through my career. Languages are all over the place. C#, python, js, typescript, PHP, go, kotlin, and a bunch of frameworks here and there.

>>103106670
>proofs?
Read the instructions to the IRS 1040 form if you'd like.
>
also it doesn't really address what the other anon he was saying. he said that half-decent companies will also provide health insurance. they cheap out wherever possible but it's not uncommon to have like three plans going because you have one from work, your wife has one from her work, and then you might have your own jointly or be covered by a state system or something
Yes and the cheapest one will be IRS fee + market risk premium on the consumer end for not having it + risk premium on the underwriters end.
>the going joke is "no one drives in NYC, too many cars on the road/nowhere to park/etc"
Yeah but you'll find that not everything you need is in the city. You'll leave more often than you think. On top of that some things will be shorter by car just because transit will be *very* round about and often different lines are down so you have to take a bus on the surface anyway.
Trust me it's a marginally nicer at the best of times.

>>103106504
When you get shot it's instant. The alternative is having your head slowly sawed off where you choke on your blood and drown long before you bleed out and die. Very based. Very white.

>>103106630
Even if it's thrice that, it still wont take that big of a bite out of your salary.
Now compare it to my salary:
>105k all-in (this is considered a really good salary)
>Gets taxed about 40%
>Pay around 150 per month on health insurance, because unlike the memes you read about yurobeans not paying for health insurance, we actually do (unless you make minimum wage)
>Rent is 1200 per month

It just doesn't compare. And I have it "good", I make the most out of all my friends and former class mates that I still keep in touch with because American companies pay way more.

>>103106384
That's cope. My effective tax rate is maybe 18%. My housing is about 20% of my take home. Food and entertainment are another 10%. Lots to be saved.

>>103106732
>Pay around 150 per month on health insurance, because unlike the memes you read about yurobeans not paying for health insurance, we actually do (unless you make minimum wage)
Yes I'm aware of that. I have friends in Canada and know yours is fucked. That's still half what I pay and I'm in the lowest risk category there is.

I know US health care is great but just as much as the liberals meme about Canada having better healthcare the conservatives meme about US health care being better.

It's fucked pretty much everywhere. I've heard Thailand it's not so bad because they don't really bother, maybe that's the only place it isn't.

>>103106532
No he's right. Good companies cover 100% of your insurance on plans that cover 100% of most medical expenses. I can call an ambulance and stay on a hospital on an ER visit with no copay. Yurop cope about muh American healthcare is only a valid argument for poor people. But if you work tech in America you're far from poor. You've been had.

I hate US tech workers, you fucking cunts are outearning everyone else by 2-3x and are basically doing fuckall. Outsourcing a 100k$+ TC job anywhere else absolutely makes sense since you can hire multiple smart people in any other country easily. FUCKING TECH SUPPORT IS PAID 70K$+ AND THAT'S LITERALLY THE TOP SALARY IN GERMANY/SWITZERLAND. How does you economy even function? You literally have the most expensive workforce mostly staffed by literal jeets, blacks, women and people who generally only collect their salary and do fuckall. I'm not fucking surprised at all by the layoffs, any US company can outsource to white European people and save 50% of salary money. Simple economics.

if any of you europeans in here are cute (female preferred, but not a necessity) and willing to take my chode at least twice a week, im willing to provide a marriage visa. also feet must look feminine.

>>103106789
I've worked at three big tech companies that are in the top 50 of the SNP500 and none of them did that. Every single one offered plans with the cheapest following the formula I posted in >>103106717

>>103106762
>Yes I'm aware of that. I have friends in Canada and know yours is fucked. That's still half what I pay and I'm in the lowest risk category there is.
Are you unhealthy? If not just get a high deductible plan. I've paid 0$ for health insurance the five years I've been working at my current job because the premium for my high deductible plan is 0$ and I've only ever gone for standard yearly preventative check ups.

>>103106793
>How does you company
By speaking English. People hate talking to people on the phone that can't speak English. The extra money is worth the avoidance of foreigners. It's that simple.

STOP TALKING ABOUT AMERICAN SALARIES YOU FAGGOTS, I ALREADY FEEL LIKE SHIT TODAY

>>103106717
>Read the instructions to the IRS 1040 form if you'd like.
i would not like to do that, actually, i dont even do my own taxes, im not gonna read foreign tax forms for fun

>cheapest [insurance] will be IRS fee + market risk premium
why would you pay these to your employer? can you explain this in retard terms for my smooth non-american brain? does your employer do your tax filing for you or something? here we just get a statement of what taxes have been paid on your behalf, but actually filing is something you do yourself and that's when you would pay any applicable fees/deficits and you would do so directly to the provincial and federal governments. why would you even pay a premium at all if you have no coverage? do amerigoys really??

basically my understanding is >>103106789 ; that companies offer real insurance. you can opt out and then i guess you'd have to pay the obamacare fee but why would you pay it through an insurance company and why would the company pay it for you if you have opted out of their care plans? none of this is making sense to me

>Yeah but you'll find that not everything you need is in the city.
this has been true of some cities I've visited but new york city is fucking huge and the transit coverage is incredibly good and buses mostly run on the actually properly wide main roads that have an appropriate capacity for at least non rush hour traffic. it's the little streets where you turn into and have to start living in your car because it takes 40 years to get two blocks

>>103106723
giwtwm

>>103106762
>yours is fucked.
in canada private health insurance is incredibly common. only the poorest of poorfags rely on medicare for anything other than ER visits

>>103106818
I'm very healthy and have literally never seen that. Are you sure you're not paying anything? They take it out of your paycheck with your tax withholding and 401k contributions. You don't get a bill.

>>103106822
Yeah I made a fucking typo, who gives a shit? Not like Tyrone in your department doesn't make the same mistake every day. You mutts need a true economic crisis and layoffs just to see how it is in the real world. Fucking hell, any european guy here can testify, a mutt HR lady that does fuckall earns more than 90+% of european engineers of any branch. I wish such an economic depression that will destroy the fucking US tech industry completely. It's all a huge scam anyway. When Trump cuts government spending that's when the real fun begins. Remember Elon fired 80% of Twitter staff and it still works perfectly. Same thing will happen to you.

>>103106806
At this point I would consider this, as it's either your chode, or a Chechen ex-prisoner's one after Trump steps out of NATO and we get invaded by Russia.

>>103106855
I pay 5500 a month in rent and pay around 50% in taxes, it ain't all it's cut out to be

>>103106793
>How does you economy even function?
it doesn't. it crashes every ten years and has since the 80s

also while food and telecomms are cheap anywhere you would be doing tech stuff has exorbitantly expensive housing and high taxes, you need a car even if you live in a "big" city that isn't NY or LA, and that car is probably 120,000 and doesn't even come with rear seats. even if you're in a cheap area the average american is up to their eyeballs in debt. also, to work in tech in north america in general requires hundreds of thousands of dollars of education and certificates, and certs are a racket collecting yearly payments to keep it "current". americans are rich but not THAT rich

>>103106880
HR karens are a special case, radical feminism enables them to be bandits. but yes tech is all a huge scam.

>>103106859
>can you explain this in retard terms for my smooth non-american brain?
I don't think this is normal in other countries but in the US there's a bunch of stuff they take out of your paycheck before paying you:
1) They take out what you've estimated to be your monthly taxes (you then submit a 1040 form in April and if your estimate was too low the government sends you a check.)
2) Retirement contributions
3) Health insurance premia
4) if you're a retard or a criminal some other stuff

All of these things go to places that aren't your employer, they just pay these other companies directly.

Yes the employer subsidizes the premium (without the subsidy it would be *much* larger) but you still have to pay a significant amount.

>>103106899
>5500 rent
jesus christ. i thought my 2k was bad.

this has completely derailed into a discussion about taxes. the main point here is that european tech salaries are slave-tier compared to American ones, and no cope can change that.
>t. european

>>103106878
Yes, my benefits overview shows the amount taken out of my paycheck each pay period by category. I pay for a small amount for dental and vision, but health insurance is 0$.

>>103106940
yeah but you dont have to
>be american
>get shot

>>103106947
Well lucky you. That's definitely not normal as far as I can tell.

>>103106959
Do you live in a blue state? I've heard that they don't do HDHPs.

>>103106968
It's blue every other election. I don't know what an HDHP is though so we probably don't.

>>103106959
i have never heard of a company paying government fees for you and the very concept of paying a premium on no coverage makes no sense.

usually companies that let you opt out of insurance plans don't pay you the difference if you do -- are you thinking of that?

>>103106904
Just wanted to clarify my stance additionality regarding the US tech scam - everyone here mentions FAANG companies like they are godsent (usually because they are only interested in TC, naturally), but what the fuck do these companies even make now? Where do they get their insane revenue? They don't make electricity, they don't refine oil, they make no food, no hardware, they run services that can literally be managed by 100 people at most and yet all these companies employ hundreds of thousands of high paid employees. It literally makes no fucking sense and I'm tired of pretending otherwise. Their shitty culture of leetcode grinding and system design without any fucking purpose is making it's way into European companies and now I have to study for interviews like a retard. Like what the fuck, if I studied for 4+ years and have multiple degrees and multiple years of experience working in the same fucking job I'm qualified. They don't ask puzzles on interviews for surgeons, teachers, garbage cleaners, management, facility workers, HVAC or fucking truckdrivers etc., they just go over the CV and someone gets the job.

>>103107002
>the very concept of paying a premium on no coverage makes no sense.
You pay a fee to the government if you don't have insurance. (you do it in your taxes so it can come out of your withholding if you overestimate that but otherwise you write a check in April for it.)

Otherwise if you use a company plan they take the money out of your paycheck before paying you. The insurance company never bills you.

I'm not entirely sure what you're confused about here, this seems very straightforward to me.

>>103107008
Amazon manages an insanely complex and large distribution network that brings essential and non-essential goods to basically every person in a number of countries?
Microsoft and Apple make the OS's that literally run modern society, with Apple being more consumer-oriented and Microsoft being more work-oriented, along with various suites of hardware and software like Microsoft Excel which runs modern businesses?
Why is Netflix even in there anyways?

>>103107008
mate take a company like Uber for instance, they complete ~18 million trips per DAY. i don't know how much they make per ride, but lets pretend its only a dollar - thats around 6.5 billion in revenue just from the rides alone. and they also have Uber Eats, and other shit.

>>103107049
He's wondering what they make software-wise.
KKR and BRK.B make a ton of money too but they don't actually build anything. A lot of technically inclined people get confused and think money is a proxy for production or something like that when really it's a more social thing that, in times like these, is really more of a proxy for administrative approval.

>>103107008
>but what the fuck do these companies even make now? Where do they get their insane revenue?
well,
>Facebook(Meta)
is actually bleeding money out the ass and is mostly afloat by investors, formerly sold ads and user data
>Amazon
obvious retail/shipping, AWS hosting, also b2b procurement because many companies just sell stuff through their "marketplace" or lease their software to drive their own storefront and payment processing etc (why do you think every online storefront looks the same?)
>Apple
phones, app store fees/ads, also outside of MUH LOONIX RUNS LE WORLD tech industry thinking apple actually does fucktons of large corporate contracts for hardware and support (they actually became big in the first place by mostly doing this for(to) schools), probably also selling user data
>Netflix
obvious subscription service, also they actually produce shows; companies pay them to make a show about Popular Thing when that company doesn't itself have filmmaking experience and is growing into a publishing outlet for smaller media companies like Time Warner or MGM or whatever
>Google
patent trolling, ads, also youtube is basically a record label


>>103107049
interestingly Uber is another one of those OMG SO RICH companies that actually is hemorrhaging money and mostly kept afloat by speculation. though they at least do something that could conceivably be profitable, unlike facebook

>>103107102
>is actually bleeding money out the ass and is mostly afloat by investors, formerly sold ads and user data
Infact META is one of the few tech companies that isn't doing that. https://finviz.com/quote.ashx?t=META&p=d They're trading at a relatively low (for tech) price given their current and expected earnings.

>>103107028
>I'm not entirely sure what you're confused about here,
i may have just misread or misunderstood entirely but
>IRS fee + market risk premium
were you saying that you get no coverage, thus having to pay the fee, but have to pay a premium on top of that? i swear im not esl just schizophrenic

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jiras gay as shit and doesnt even work 0/10 that's my review.

>>103107119
stock prices are not indicative of cash flow

>crazy elections huh, anon?

>>103107002
Just to reiterate in case I still wasn't clear.
It's *illegal* to self insure for health in the US so they fine you. That's how you get into a situation where you're essentially "paying a premium with no coverage."

It drives me up the goddamn wall because most medical interventions seem like scams they sell to dying boomers and slobs. I fucking hate being forced to participate in that.

>>103107146
The cash flow in the SEC filings (summarized in the link I sent) are indicative of cash flow though.

>>103107145
wait till you switch to azure boards nigga, you'll be wishing you're on jira again

>>103107040
>>103107049
>>103107102
Sounds like cope, even the critical comments towards the companies. In a recession online shopping, Uber Eats, Netflix subscription, new iPhones are the first to go. How are they seeing such a major revenue increase, like some of them had 20% revenue increase quarter over quarter in 2023. Makes no sense.

>>103107148
but that doesnt address what anon said in the first place -- that most companies anyone itt would be joining would have a half-decent insurance plan. even if you do get Obongocare'nt fees for not having insurance, who cares, you're not working at Billy Joe's Burger Shack. even McDonalds provides decent health insurance these days

>>103107145
jira is an answer to a question nobody asked

>>103107178
>anyone itt would be joining would have a half-decent insurance plan
Apparently that's a red state only thing because I've never seen it and worked at plenty of big tech companies.

>>103104394
da jooz

>>103107188
literally even mcdonalds offers health insurance. you got owned by recruiter karens. skill issue

>>103107214
Duh I have health insurance. I have to pay a premium (and I'm not posting the formula for it again.) It's not unique to my current company and mine is cheaper than what my friends at smaller companies have talked about so I don't think it's unusual.
It's a very nice plan *if I actually had a reason to go to a hospital* which I don't and am very unlikely to hence why my expected outcome for self insuring would be *higher* (this is how you shop for insurance plans.) The government knows this but all the boomers and niggers are getting sold fancy treatments to extend their lives by ~a year or two and need someone to pay for that so they made people like me opting out illegal and I have to pay for the (relatively nice, but almost completely useless to me) insurance plan.

>>103107242
none of this has anything to do with the fact that you're wrong about most companies not having insurance plans. i dont know where you work or who you're talking to but it is very normal for tech corporations to offer health insurance to employees as part of the benefits package

>they made people like me opting out illegal
but apparently it is not illegal >>103106698
also you're dumb. just because you're healthy doesn't mean you won't
>be american
>get involved in a minor accident that requires you get go to the ER for 148,904.04 per stitch + tip + asperin(500mg)($3.99/mg)
even if you don't drive crazy, wear steel toed boots, don't live near niggers, etc. who's to say two idiots won't crash their cars near you and then you get a tiny piece of glass in your eye or something? anybody can get it

>>103107303
>you're wrong about most companies not having insurance plans.
GOOD FUCKING GOD DAMN i NEVER SAID THAT.
I swear arguing with you is stressing me out enough I might have to adjust my risk calculation.
They have plans, you pay part of the premium and the employer pays the other part. That's almost universally how it works.

>but apparently it is not illegal >>103106698
Oh fuck. I don't know how I missed this. Good thing we have open enrollment now so I can cancel my plan.
> you're healthy doesn't mean you won't
I'm not saying I won't, I'm saying it's about the expected outcomes (I'd expect most people here to know how to model risk.) I've looked into the cost for most of the things I'd likely need in an accident or probably illness and it's well within what I'd be comfortable covering on my own without any insurance.

>>103107348
what if you get shot

>>103107379
I don't live around niggers and don't like rap music.
Although I will admit the girl I last went on a date with showed up with a gun.

a lot of long posts for a wednesday huh?
everything good fellas? the weekend is just around the corner

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>>103107387
>be american
>don't live near niggers
>don't like rap music.
>still get almost shot

>>103106410
Never too late to go. Less whining and more doing, bitch boy.

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my hobby is giving intentionally bad jobseeking advice to the unemployed

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>>103103494
>import millions of indians
>gut almost every federal agency so there goes your coasting backup plan
>deregulate so military contractors are more lax on security clearance, meaning more jobs for the foreigners
>gut the department of education so local tech talent gets even more retarded than it already is
I'm gonna start learning Hindi or Mandarin

>>103107521
Giving bad advice is usually a bad strategy IMO. You're mostly likely to find yourself in contact with people have more in common with you and giving people like you bad advice harms whatever collective group you're in (and therefore you by extension.)

>>103107547
>Mandarin
I started doing this years ago just because all the factories are over there so there's a ton of documentation and regulations and stuff that either never gets translated or gets translated poorly.
I still really suck at it but I can usually make out basic signs and labels.

>>103107547
The companies making military goods sell them to a lot of countries, so generally their clearance would have to be higher than NATO clearances (not that they're anything special, national clearances are inherently higher than NATO clearances, but a NATO country buying stuff from Lockheed or Northrup-Grumman would want to be sure their new crypto box or missile system or whatever has to at least appear in War Thunder before having its datasheets leaked online)

>>103107554
good. fuck all these niggas, including me. this world is a shit, all i want is revenge

>>103106815
>Top 50
Well I work in the top 20 and we cover it. Sorry for your loss.

Do hiring managers really deal with this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo0KjdDJr1c

>>103106880
It's not the typo. It's the accent. It's the misunderstanding of American culture and idioms. And don't give me that shit about Americans having accents too. We actually don't have an accent. And you want to know why I know? Because when people sing in English, they magically stop talking like fucking retards and sing with an "American accent". We can't stand foreigners. You guys are the fucking worst. Tyrone will at least put on his white people voice when he comes to work. Pajeet still sounds like he's gargling shit whenever he speaks. We just hate foreigners and would gladly pay the premium to not have to deal with you. Be glad we outsource anything at all.

>>103106899
Nobody told you to live in California. But since you're there, please stay.

>>103107547
>deregulate so military contractors are more lax on security clearance, meaning more jobs for the foreigners
Absolutely 0 chance of this happening

>>103107635
>Because when people sing in English, they magically stop talking like fucking retards and sing with an "American accent"
you mean people put on a different accent to mimic a foreign language? sheeeeeit

>>103106948
See
>>103106723

>>103107674
giwtwm

>>103107008
You don't understand systems design and that's part of why you're paid so little.

>>103107162
We were literally in a recession for the past 4 years. They just changed the definition of recession. Your Europoor cope is never coming true. The market pumped like 8% today on Trump winning. Tech is going to hit all time highs in a few weeks. Get comfy.

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>>103107008
you'd think so but techbro thinking has infected a lot of other fields. when I apply for really out-there jobs I generally get a response and it's an actual conversation, but what few times I've reached out for infra jobs or even outright blue collar contractor shit, they do the same sorts of shit tests.

on one ad for a house painting gig they used the standard Indeed quiz that makes sure you know how cantilevers work and can identify the sockets on different world electrical outlets and shit. the only question that made any sense to include was telling the difference between different fire extinguishers. nigger the job description is to fucking paint walls. and even then who's ever seen anything but a combined ABC type outside of industrial environments, most normies don't even know there's more than those

>>103107715
We've really been in a recession of sorts for the past 16 years.

>>103102933
>RSU bullrun edition
thank you bros down south for allowing me to invest in your SP500 and pumping my portfolio several % today.

>>103107664
>Foreign language
Have you ever heard of a little country called ENGLAND. Fucking foreigners holy fuck. I miss the old Internet when you cunts were still collecting bread rations and didn't have money for Internet access. We need a firewall for America to keep foreigners off our website. Almost universally when somebody says something fucking stupid I can guarantee they're from some shithole that starts with "slav". Get ye gone.

>>103107651
What the fuck can one do if the job is hybrid/office, retard? Not my fucking fault I had to move to this libshit hellhole just to save up more.

>>103107732
Big true. And even through all of that tech surged nearly the entire time only losing a few of the excess COVID hires in the process. Best field there ever was. At least if you graduated before 2016.

>>103107748
cant wait for him to get shot solely so i can buy the dip

>>103107720
It's to gate out millions of foreigners that can't even speak English. Not going to hire pedro through indeed with a real wage when I could just hire Juan outside Home Depot for $50 and a case of beer.

>>103107720
If they can get away with that it means there's absolutely not a labor shortage and every single Mexican and Indian (legal or not) should be deported.

>>103107755
Look I get it. I've been approached by Facebook recruiters several times. Each time I told them thanks but no thanks because I refuse to move to California. I'll never work FAGMAN salaries but ironically you make less than me at a time 2 company when you account for the higher state taxes and cost of living. You made the choice to go there. Don't make it our problem. Stay now that you're there.

>>103107782
CIA already tried that. A second "fuck up" to that caliber would be way too obvious.
I'm convinced no president has ever been assassinated unless they wanted him dead. But now that they've played that card and missed they can't do it again or it's clearly not an accident anymore.

>>103107807
Even if you netted more no amount of money is worth living in such a gay place.

>>103107817
Big true. Is the poop tracker accurate?

>>103107815
why would the CIA want to assassinate trump, he didn't touch their charter the whole time and seems pretty pro (para-)military. and his strong on foreign policy vibes probably led to good feelings and butt pleasure across the IC

>>103107879
If that was the case why do (((intelligence experts))) always create fake controversies around him to be litigated for years at a time? They clearly dislike him and want him dead for whatever reason.

>>103107893
pressure from democrats in congress. also the fbi is always one step away from launching a coup anyway

We can finally rest easy and unburdened by what has been

>>103107807
I am not American, I didn't have a choice. It was either California or Poland, and I am still making more money than back home.

does being an American increase your odds of getting a tech job in a company outside of the US

>>103107987
i would rather be making minimum wage in poland than rich in california.

>>103108006
Why would you want that? The pay is going to be way worse. But maybe. American grade school education is dog shit but our universities are some of the best in the world.

>>103108033
>our universities are some of the best in the world.
some of them are but there's also a lot of degree mills and completely mediocre community colleges

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>>103108008
>its a NEET loser says outrageous shit episode

>>103107494
Not him but i tried. No one wants to apprentice a 30y old "electrician".
Just stuck at my gay tech job i guess

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>>103102933
>first """real""" job in IT
>lots of new concepts to me or stuff I've only learned about in school
>only a month into my position and everyone hypes me up or thinks I know more than I do so they skip training me and throw me straight in
>one tech tells me to just fuck around and find out how to fix shit, other one says to make sure I fix things exactly how they are in our KBs cause of the environment (health)
>just feel overwhelmed
How do I git gud bros? I wanna do well and stay here at least a year to get some bearings.

>>103108449
Keep going. It never gets better but nobody besides other engineers have any idea how this shit works and we never snitch on our own. As long as the code eventually deploys, literally nobody will care about "code quality" or any other faggy shit unemployed retards obsess over.

I love California, I miss it everyday.

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>>103104501
I work for a small MSP and no one has talked about it today, but I'm not American. Someone mentioned trump might win yesterday, and I asked if the big man was going to build the wall this time and that was about it.

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>locked-in my first client as a freelancer
>startup, no money, but getting equity and their product idea has promise
>have it setup as part-time work
>email got pinged
>have a possible second client approach me
>these guys have money
Huh, this is a situation.

>>103108507
>It never gets better
I'm just happy to have been able to skip getting stuck at a help desk, I'm okay if everything stays fast I just want to be able to figure out my environment without pissing the other techs off.

I'm going to become employed in 2 weeks. Please recommend me some good C#/.NET/React/Next.js resources, I don't mind paying.

heil hitler though fr fr.

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>work maintenance and development
>spend my days managing support tickets
>also have to juggle developing features as well because all the talented devs left which leaves only me
>50 tickets in my backlog with comments every day asking "is there any progress?"
>features expected by clients this month won't be finished in time
>workload only ever goes up as higher ups keep giving more apps to my department to manage
>work 8-9 hours every day
>get nothing done every day because I keep jumping from topic to topic as I get messaged on teams "Hiii can you look at this, it's urgent"
>get yelled at by mom for coming home late even though I go straight home when I'm finished with work
>spend my weekends doing chores that she's too lazy to do during the week
Has anyone ever been in such a position? My only pleasure left in life is sleeping.

31, LATAM, should i go for a cs degree or is completely futile by now? Uni is free here.

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>>103102933
nocoder helldesk monkey here
how do i escape this fresh hell?

>>103109034
Use your job to learn

>>103110043
>get yelled at by mom for coming home late even though I go straight home when I'm finished with work
cherry on top

>>103106325
this, I'm in Hungary, saw 2 blacks this month already, it's already owari da

>>103110155
You don't, embrace it and try to become a manager. Hell needs its managers

>>103108507
>and we never snitch on our own.
thedailywtf.com

>>103108049
I live in the US and make six figures as an SWE. I agree with him.

It should be illegal to not have a job. Even for ""people"" in school. Once you're 18, if you don't have a job already, jail. If you lose that job without having another lined up, jail. If you ""retire"" before 65, jail. There is zero excuse for being unable or unwilling to get a job in the wealthiest country in the world.

>>103108033
american education is india tier. a few legitimate institutions making up for thousands of for-profit degree mills

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>>>/g/utwg just archived, so I would've posted there.
Just got the phone call and email confirmation: Contract signing next week.
Just one week of unemployment (and 3+ months of job-hunting),
and there's already light at the end of the tunnel.

Oh, and the government collapses same day. Top kek!

>>103103402
>Excel vba
Leg it!
Or more accurately: Prepare for a position, where you'll have to cobble together
things, that should be database applications, in Excel.
As reference, Sage 100 (see pics here: https://blog.datatronic.de/sage-100-warenwirtschaft-tipps-tricks.html )
is just MS Access (LITERALLY just Microsoft Access) that's dolled up to the tits with VBA.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/office/vba/api/overview/excel
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/office/vba/api/overview/language-reference

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I've been working for 10 years in EU and I'm sick and tired of it, being europoor sucks mad ass. Haven't breached 6 figures and probably won't if I don't relocate or start my own shit. Currently I'm working for a subsidiary of a US company and it's comfy as shit. However I want more, I want to relocate for a few years and then move back with fat stacks. Is that shit just a pipe dream after 10 years here?

>>103103402
>Excel vba experience.
don't. not only is that shit completely satanic and only retained legacy support, but do you really want to work somewhere that is either using Excel for business critical applications, or worse, distributing "software" that is just locked excel sheets with horrendous scripts in a container? it'd be like working somewhere that insists you use COM for everything and bans powershell.

>>103110999
>thousands of for-profit degree mills
Um excuse me, Trump is president(-elect) now, they're greencard mills.

>>103110135
Latam here, It's fucking useless. I graduated in 2018, I have 7yoe, the competition is insane and the pay is absolute trash because they know we're desperate

>>103102933
putting in my notice with my current job today, secured a principal engineer role at microsoft

>>103111020
don't you just love how the useless wellbeing champion pajeeta hired yesterday earns twice as much as you? Top 10 anime humiliation rituals

>>103111191
I hope you like indians.
Who am I kidding, no one likes indians.

>>103103560
>>103103660
Campaign promises are quickly forgotten. Politicians say a lot of shit to gain votes then don't follow through. So... we'll see.

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>Rejection E-mail from job I don't even recall applying to

>>103111194
I don't care, if there's a place for them, there's a place for me. The more useless one will be filtered out at some point, be it him or me.

>>103111257
H1Bs make number go up, and trump is a man who values that. He'll do it.

>>103111316
Well it's better than green cards at least, they're locked to one employer and have a harder time switching jobs.

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you DO know COBOL, don't you anon?

>>103111336
It's not a COBOL problem, it's the shit code that was written in it. If it were Rust or Python or whatever they'd have the same problems because noone could architect for shit back then to last for 30 years. Add in a ton of nitwits patching in fixes and here we are.

>>103110792
Laughing about it on the Internet isn't the same as complaining to a manager.

>>103110043
It sounds like more work but I suggest you create some kind of ticketing dashboard or meeting where people can formally ask you to do these things and set priority. When the "super critical" items conflict, let the people asking flight it out on what is actually critical. Truthfully this should be the job of your manager who is fucking you over. But it's your fault for accepting tickets over slack instead of putting it on a board and giving priority in a sprint.

>>103111310
for some definition of 'useless' you are right, but if you believe for one second your ability to code slightly better than a jeet or jeePT matters, then you deserve your suppressed salary

>>103110926
>Six figures
You make 100k. That's not that much so I can understand that.

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>>103111336
>COBOL
I know enough about it and ABAP to steer clear of those dumpster fires.

>>103104482
Yes?
is that a problem?

>>103111336
I would happily take a COBOL job if they were willing to do on the job training with someone that knows more modern languages. I'm sure I could get used to it and learn it, but I'm not going to study it on my own just in hopes of finding a job when it's such a niche thing.

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How on earth do tech companies stay afloat while hiring brainlet diversity leeches and jeets?

>>103111424
investors/speculation

same reason memecoins are valuable despite being next to unusable as actual currency

>>103110043
>Has anyone ever been in such a position?
Honestly, yes.
The only option is to keep trucking on
and under no circumstances work more hours
than you're contractually obliged to.

I ramped my hours up to 60 a week for a month
and only became irate and got fired
when I still couldn't sort out that hot mess.

>>103111424
Because the products they create integrate into just about every level of society in a country that has a GDP of over 20 trillion dollars and even other parts of the world too that seem incapable of starting tech companies of their own. Tech basically siphons money from the world into America so we can do whatever we want.

>>103111466
can we solve this with rockets?

>>103111424
One offshore jeet costs about $30k yearly salary and that's big money for them. I made 5x that. Until I got replaced by 3 jeets, saving $60k a year.

>>103111544
>>103111424
Also no overhead for unemployment insurance, health insurance, 401k match, it probably saved $90k+

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https://www.pcmag.com/articles/ibms-plan-to-update-cobol-with-watson
>The World Depends on 60-Year-Old Code No One Knows Anymore
>An alarmingly large portion of the world's business and finance systems run on COBOL, and only a small community of programmers know it. IBM thinks Watson can help, but it's not guaranteed."

>>103111608
Imagine if instead of writing articles about unmaintainable code they just spent time writing it in a modern code base?

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>"can I call you?"
>for every little thing that can be said in two lines of text
No you can't.
I hate women.

>>103111608
Watson fucking sucks don't let it touch you mr COBOL. Just teach people COBOL desu

>>103111397
Yes, trump won and homosexuality is illegal now

>>103110965
If adultery and employment of women were illegal I'd agree with this.
As it is right now pretty much everything worth working for has been destroyed or sold to foreigners. That's why no one cares to show up.

>>103111801
>no one cares to show up
people are only giving up because they can't compete with slave-wage jeets who live 40 to a room and think it's fine, and are only in the country because their high caste taskmaster imported them on the DL and got them only barely-legal work visas

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>>103111801
this is the tech WORKERS general. you are looking for the unemployed tech workers general.

>>103112167
I might not be working but I am employed.

Say I have 5 tasks to do on the sprint (a week). I have 2 meetings a week on monday and thursday. Is it a good idea to finish and hand everything in before the thursday meeting or better to wait and push something on a friday?

On the one hand I would be seen as a fast guy if I hand in everything but probably they would give me more work?

I don't know. Anyone experienced here can chip in?

>>103111651
She likes you Anon. Stop being rude and let her suck your dick.

>>103112299
There's a decent chance she's just retarded.

>>103106793
Skill issue
I make 85k€ in germany
which looking at forex charts will be like 200k$ tomorrow
also in switzerland it's easy to go over 100k

>>103106793
If it only took 3 jeets to replace you then you were worthless to begin with.

>>103112399
but they did not replace him
thats why everything is falling apart

>>103106793
>you fucking cunts are outearning everyone else by 2-3x and are basically doing fuckall
Work smarter, not harder.

30 minute commute, reimbursed 0,30€/km
4200€/month (50.4k€/ year) in north of France
Private health insurance

is this a good offer? glassdoor says yes but it seems too good to be true

>>103112469
Better add another jeet.

>>103103750
>have to filter company on linkedin
how do you do this? the operators like "NOT" don't work

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>>103112682
>>103112682

>max 401k with 14% employer match (~$35k/yr)
>max hsa
>max roth ira via backdoor
>anything not going towards bills goes straight into taxable brokerage account tracking sp500

what other steps can I take to remove myself from his horrendous career as quickly as possible?
is buying a duplex in some midwestern shithole and renting it out still a decent way to make ~$1k/month?
28 y/o senior engineer ~$150k tc

>>103111232
for 500k a year I can live with them

>>103106185
I'm a product designer, I don't do programming.

>>103111424
just need 1-3 people to write the software. the other 30+ employees can do whatever.

>>103112750
In a similar position to you. Renting out a duplex like that never made sense to me unless I was staying in half of it and having the tenant pay the bill. I've already got 2k rent myself plus utils. Making 3k a month off a 150k property wouldn't really be economical in the short term.