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1st for split columnar stagger

I just bought Keychron Q6 Max. I never had any mechanical keyboard before. Did I dun goofed?

>>103145495
There isn't, as far as I'm aware, any full-size competition at that price point. So while you could have done better, you didn't really screw up.

And big boards always sound nice and deep because of their internal volume so they don't desperately need some of the design considerations that the small boards need.

I don't care for the switches they come with though

>>103145515
>So while you could have done better
Such as? I am very interested, anon.

Apparently I type really fucking loud, my roommate constantly bitches about it.

Is there a switch that feels good to type on (i hate mushy shit) but will silence or severely muffle my typing so they will shut the fuck up?

>>103145528
E.g. there was a sale on Cannonkeys' Brutal V2 96% boards a short while ago, you could have picked one up for $200. But it's not the same layout. So it's not apples-to-apples, which means you didn't fail to buy a 'strictly better' board.

Or there's the Vertex Seal, GB coming soon. A proper full-size board. Very nice. But it's more expensive by a lot. And you'd be waiting for them to make it and ship it. So there are some good reasons why it's not a suitable alternative.

I think these are better buys, but they're probably not quite what you wanted. What you wanted was something like a Q6 Max, and as I said, I don't think there's much direct competition, other than the Monsgeek full-size, which I've heard mixed things about and probably wouldn't pick over the Q6 max.

>>103145606
Thanks anon, very informative!

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Hey sisters. I have this Razer Blackwidow Elite. I like it, I have been using it since... I don't know... 5 years? Since launch.

I love it.

The thing is that it fell off my desk and the ESC key is fucked but it werks... but it has no keycap just the switch. If I press A key, sometimes it detected it as if I double press it.

So far, is they only problem I have with my keyboard.

I was thinking about... getting some cherry red and solder them by my self. I'm not asking if is worth it but if is possible to do so and kept the LEDs and stuff. Which switches do you guys recommend?

>>103145902
Cute pussy. You'd just need to desolder the LED too in order to replace the switch. Then it becomes the same as this.
https://youtu.be/7HYXsZqpHrg

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>>103145902
Desoldering and replacing the switch should be easy enough if you've got any soldering experience, and if not then this is a good place to start.
As for the rgb, it'll still work but it'll end up looking something like this replacement switch on the left. Whether you need to do anything with the led depends on what model you have exactly, but Razer boards are popular enough that I bet you can find a guide on youtube for your exact model.

>>103145551
I'm a big shill for outemu silent cream yellow switches, I use them in my office sitting about 2 meters away from my CEO and he's ever complained.
Also they feel nice.

>>103146372
>ever
*never
And he's one of those apple magic keyboard people, so a regular mechanical keyboard would probably get me kicked out instantly

>>103145551
Look into lichicx lucy, gateron gecko for silent linears, and boba U4 for silent tactile.

>>103146198
>Cute pussy
His name is Luna
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>>103146211
>>103146372
>outemu silent cream yellow switches
>>103146397
>gateron gecko

I only know MX blue and Razer green. I do type a lot and I do play games less than I used to. Which ones would you recommend me?

should i get an ortho or go full autism split column stagger? i want to make a pcb and have it done as cheap as possible

>>103143198
It was the jump in price that I was highlighting. Earlier in the year they were around £130.

>>103146918
You might as well go full split columnar stagger. Making your own PCB is not the cheapest way to go about it though.

>>103146988
i'm not spending more than like $70 dude

>>103147024
You won't get them that cheap assembled. Non-assembled means you'd either be soldering QFN chips yourself (good luck if you don't have a hot-air station) or slapping two pro-micros onto a matrix. It'd probably be cheaper to buy PCBs from a vendor rather than trying to make your own.

>>103146891
A lot of it comes down to personal preference, so it's hard to say. The outemu ones are very cheap though, like $15 on aliexpress, then if you think they're too light you could get the Boba switches which are heavier.

>>103147126
>or slapping two pro-micros onto a matrix
whats wrong with that theyre not even that big anyway

>>103147143
Wasn't implying it was a bad thing, it's certainly easier than trying to solder the MCU together yourself. The cheapest possible way to make a board though is hand-wiring it.

>>103147161
what about the structural rigidity? so i just buy a plate and a pro micro and make a matrix or something? i dont know much about electronics

>>103147209
Pretty much. matt3o has a hand-wiring guide which should mostly apply to what you'd wanna make.
https://matt3o.com/hand-wiring-a-custom-keyboard/

>>103147232
how much would i need to pay for soldering that chip? it'd be much easier to find a case that way

normies on fb marketplace taht are selling gk61 are all selling optical switch version damn it.....

>>103147271
If you're paying for assembly at a PCB fabshop expect to pay about $80 for five PCBs (since 5 is usually the MOQ).

>>103145902
>I was thinking about... getting some cherry red and solder them by my self. I'm not asking if is worth it but if is possible to do so and kept the LEDs and stuff.
Definitely. And it's not very hard to do, either.

I recommend getting something close to what you already have, then take a switch from one of your less-used keys like scroll lock to put where the A switch was. Put the new switch on scroll lock

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>>103147288
why cant my uni have that shit somewhere
maybe it does i'd have to check

>>103147327
If your uni has a pick & place machine & other PCB assembly machines I will be very surprised.

>>103147024
then go fuck yourself

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Anyone know how to stop the blue led blinking on supermini nrf52840? I'm using circuitpy with kmk and have the keyboard side working, just want the led off. I think I need to add some code to boot.py. Pin isn't listed on this pic but it's P0.15 I could just rip it off but I'd rather find a fix.

bump

>nobody in mkg will ever buy anything more expensive than a keychron unless it's some split bullshit

>>103149441
Considering the quality you can get in the budget range these days, I'm not surprised. It's hard for me to justify going much higher since I would just be spending more money for the sake of spending money.

>>103149441
why would you? what do you get from a more expensive base?

>>103149441
i just bought an hhkbpro2 in the current year, that's at least triple the price of a keychron and it's not some split bullshit.

but realistically, why should they? we are living in the golden age of mech boards and it's only going to get better. you can buy some $10 chinkshit and mod it into something that types better than the most expensive boards from a few years ago.

>>103146372
>>103146397
Sick thanks anons will look into these

>>103149441
but are their Q series worth?

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glove80
>>103149441
that's because sane people want their money's worth. beyond the price point of a keychron you can only really offer
>split
this is very nice imo but it can substantially increase the price, both due to extra R/D costs for a new layout and because you may need extra components (e.g. two microcontrollers instead of one)
>trackball and trackpad add-ons
usually found on split keyboards
>meme artisan keycaps
nobody cares about this shit

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Need a most basic retro keyboard that just works, tired of all the mechanical keyboards bullshit.

can you mod 2.4ghz into a bluetooth only keyboard or is that not really a thing?

>>103149441
>split
>bullshit
kek state of (You)

>>103151442
just buy a normal new membrane keyboard and add the cum to make it look retro

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>>103151442

>>103135546
Thanks for the coupon from the previous thread. It still works with the sale today.
>t. sucker who ordered m5w, jade pros, caps, and some other miscellaneous house stuff.
I should have shelled out a little more for a qk100 but I can remorse buy it later.

>>103145495
No, it's one of the best midrange boards you can buy right now that doesn't really need much modding, if any, if you think you need that shit anyway. Gotta agree with that other anon though since I slapped some other switches in that bitch since I liked them more.
>>103145606
I'm still a bit salty I missed out on that Pangea GB, got too distracted by other things happening recently and didn't remember when it started, then I saw it ended a few days ago...

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im starting to think that white keycaps are the best for white keyboards. all the ones i see with multicolour keycaps all kinda look out of place, the ones taht do look good are all the mono coloured ones, but even then the contrast between the two colours has to be minimal

>>103155913
What is that script? Are you mexican?

Are you niggers buying anything on aliexpress today?

>>103156037
shut up bitch

>>103156101
fuck no

>>103156101
I already have an Aliexpress SK75 on the way so I can try out the latest meme. If the quality of these boards is half as good as people say then I'll be happy.
Also I bought a small folding knife that takes No.11 scalpel blades so I can kill myself if the keyboard sucks.

>>103156037
Looks like Hebrew

>>103155575
pangea seemed nice but I must admit I don't see the point of the swappable numpad thing

>>103157302
I would have probably tried it out at least, though there was only one color/option I liked for it so I'm not too torn up about it, but still. Guess I'll just keep waiting to see if that Zoom Max goes anywhere as it's the only other full size potentially on the horizon that looks interesting to me.

Any recommendations for a decent wireless / detachable cable numpad off Aliexpress?
Something about it feels weirdly alien compared to buying keyboards. I guess because there's billions of entries and I have no intuition for what I should be paying price-wise.

>>103145463

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are box jade/navies still the king of clickies? I haven't checked out keyboards for a while

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>>103158940
Zeal clickies are the new hotness. Expensive cunts though.

>>103158957
>$1.2 per switch on sale, usually $1.5
holy fuck that is expensive, over $100 in switches alone to fill a TKL, are they worth it?

>>103159028
Up to you ultimately, but I'd say they are. The tactility & sound is better than navy/jade imo.

If I get a Keychron Q1 Max can I just leave it plugged in all the time or is wireless actually good now?

>>103159028
I think they feel awful and gateron melodic sound better to me. But they are certainly the clickiest.

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>Upgrade from $70-80 board to Q6 Max with Gaetron Jupiter browns
>Best board I've ever typed on
>Only issue is sometimes I'll press space to start typing a new word, and after I type the first 1-2 letters, a 2nd space is inserted in the middle of the word
>Can't tell if the Jupiter browns are just overly sensitive and I'm absentmindedly pressing the spacebar while pressing other keys
>Swapping another key's switch with the spacebar's didn't fix it
>Seems to be happening a lot less frequently now compared to when I first got the board a week ago
Does this sound like a acclimatization issue, or could something be wrong with the board? My last board was a K4 with browns, but I can't remember if they were Gaetron or Cherry mx, or if they were specifically Jupiters if they were Gaetrons. On one hand, I feel like it wouldn't be decreasing in frequency if it was a hardware problem, but I never had this issue with my K4 either, so I don't know why it would start now.

I've read some posts from other owners who noted a similar issue and most of them seem to have fixed it by swapping the spacebar to a different switch type, or increasing the spring weight, so I guess I'll try that next.

>>103159513
I thought i would also run mine wired after problems with every other wireless keyboard i've ever had but I've had a Q1 Max for about a month now on wireless and haven't had any problems at all, also have a Q0 Max next to it and no interference or any weird behaviour from either.

>>103160320
Personally I'd keep using it for a few more days hope that the issue goes away, and just try really hard to not accidentally press the spacebar. If it doesn't stop then I guess that trying out a new switch type would give you a nice excuse to get a few switch testers.

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All hail the buckling spring switches.

Hi boys

keyboard noob here wanting to switch from my trusty but bulky and childish logitech g19 to something more grown up.
>Budget
around 150$ but open for suggestions aroundt 200$
>Location (continent at least)
Norway, Europe
>Preferred switch type
Not too loud, so tactile a guess
>Layout
ISO
>Form factor
around 80% - i dont need the num pads.

>Backlight
Just white - RGB if it can be turned white. Dont want any flashy or gaming looking keyboard
>Previous/current keyboards
logitech g19

I want a plain keyboard to work, and game. And i want it wireless if its fast and reliable. I guess i can do wire if you guys convince me.

I like the "retro" looking white/off white keyboards posted here

>>103162738
ISO kinda limits your options, but Keychron has some stuff that might suit you. V3 is a pretty good wired option. There aren't very good wireless options, unless you go for the more expensive aluminium boards or low profile.

Lemokey P1 pro is pretty good value for a wireless aluminium ISO atm., if you can live with the 75% layout:
https://www.keychron.se/products/lemokey-p1-qmk-wireless-custom-mechanical-keyboard-iso-layout-collection?variant=41801722593389

Q3 Max exists, but it isn't exactly cheap:
https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-q3-max-qmk-via-wireless-custom-mechanical-keyboard-iso-layout-collection?variant=41138215813209

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>>103156037
>mexica

>>103163900
V3 Max should be fine but needs a wristrest

>>103163919
Yeah it's a pretty tall board, so a rest might make sense if your typing style requires one

>>103161907
capacitive are nicer

So what's a good keyboard size coming from an anon with a TKL ATM

>>103165541
100% minimum or you're a troon

should i get a hhkb

>>103166946
this but unironically

>>103166946
>>103167024
96% is the future gramps

>>103145551
If you make your keyboard heavier and less hollow it will be quieter regardless of the switch
Putting it on a deskmat will also mute vibrations significantly
I filled my aluminum keyboard with butyl rubber (layer between plate and PCB, layer between PCB and backplate) and it sounds completely different, much quieter and much less hollow sounding

>>103167146
the future where you troon out, yeah

104 key ansi... with 1.25u bottom row... goated...

>>103167663
I bet you use 9009 keycaps

>I-It's just like 1997

I'm getting another itch to buy a tranny groupbuy board bros....

There don't seem to be any good ones rn

>>103160320
I've never experienced that before but it could be an issue with the stabilizers if swapping switches didn't fix it. Try to break in the stabs more and if that doesn't help try taking the board apart and cleaning the stabs on the space bar.

>>103158940
I used jades and navies for years but I tried the new gateron melodics and I think they're slightly better

What are some good keycaps to go with a black chassis? The rest of my setup is black so I'm not sure if I should just get WOB caps or something else

>>103167728
how's the tactility of those compared to the jades?

I just got a Keychron Q3 with Gateron Blues and I am positively surprised by the build quality. But Gateron Blue switches are shit. And Cherry MX Green is a bit hard to get a hold of.

Nothing still compares to buckling spring, too bad unicomp keyboards have utter shite build quality. Guess we are stuck with Cherry/Kalih/Gateron/etc. shit.

>>103145463
Give me something with mechanical/membranes, tactile non clicky keys, replaceable 18650 batteries.

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>>103167744
Black & yellow is a good combo.

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can anyone ID this board? seller said it was a pok3r, but i'm 99% sure it's not.

>>103167863
I wanted something a little more minimalist. Would 9009 look good on black?

>>103167904
Kbparadise v60
https://medium.com/@ParityB1t/kbp-v60-review-e74343c3cec6

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>>103168024
Luckily there are some examples of how 9009 looks on a black board.

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>>103168089
Thank you, Brother.

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hello enthusiasts, is wooting a meme? is this nigga's collab worth the $300 price tag? never bought any fancy keyboards before

>>103169231
are you a retard who spends hundreds of dollars to get 1 more kill and thinks milliseconds make a difference when playing online? if so then get it

i had sex for the first time today. this hobby doesn’t interest me anymore

>>103169276
fuck you and see you tomorrow

anyone own system76 launch?

Any good 11/11 deal from cheap chink brands like mchose, attack shark or whatever?

>>103167697
cool boogeyman I guess, 96 fagcent is still troonshit though

>>103169276
each to their own, i used to have sex, but now i collect keyboards.

>>103169231
I would avoid. Hall effect isn't a meme but proprietary firmware shit like Wooting definitely is a meme

>>103145606
Out of curiosity, what’s the benefit of the for the Vertex Seal over the QK100? A cursory glance doesn’t show anything major as far as differences, but that’s just from my view. What’s got you excited about it? I can’t say I’ve committed myself to deep in to keyboards so I think I’m missing some details surrounding it.

>>103169552
They're the least gay about it, considering you don't even need to download their software. You can set what you want in your browser and then forget about it forever if you so choose.
Meanwhile shitass companies like logitech or razer require you to use bloated, clunky, buggy bullshit like synapse and ghub.

Anyone here used MTNU keycaps before? If so, what are your thoughts on the quality and feel of them?

>>103169573
Ashkeebs lists qk100 weight as 1.9-2.3kg built, whereas the vertex seal is 3.5-3.7kg built. That's a very big difference. Mounting points on the Seal look more carefully planned, e.g. no mounting point anywhere near the spacebar. Too early to say for sure but it's reasonable to expect a difference in anodization quality too. QK100 is a little bit ugly and the screen is particularly tacky. Does that all justify a >$200 price difference? I guess not.

QK100 is definitely a better value, but it's not entirely apples-to-apples because one is a traditional full-size and the other is a modified 96%. A true QK or Neo 100% board would be great news. Keep in mind QK/Neo is almost as good as it gets for value-per-dollar right now, not typical.

I wouldn't buy one just because I dislike the design. But if you like it, go for it. The board sounds good in Taehatypes' build stream video (he used carbon fiber plate and mx blacks).

>>103169796
I’m not a big fan of the QK’s screen, I honestly just prefer my keyboard to be good at being a keyboard. Thanks for the info, I’ll keep an eye on the release date for the Seal. I do like the brass weights, they’re very pleasing to the eye. Personally I enjoy the aluminum plate and the Seal offers that so if I’m going to commit to a new keyboard I’d rather go for something that is well thought out and is aesthetically pleasing with good customization options.

Anybody owns the Dygma Defy?
I want something that goes wired OR wireless (ideally RF), has good ergonomy and is a split keyboard. Seems like either the Glove80 or the Defy are worth it. Anybody tried that Defy?

>Corsair K95 RGB
Love everything about it except some of the LEDs have died/don't display the correct colours. I've never soldered before, but I own the gear to do it. How difficult is it going to be to replace the LEDs on this thing? Can I just replace the broken ones? Do I need to match the new bulbs to the old ones, or will any do?

>>103169873
one more thing—QK100 has some other slightly mistaken design choices, like too many mounting points for top mount. Despite being less wide than the Seal, the QK100 actually has more mounting points across the top edge (7 vs 6) and many more across the bottom (7 vs 4), and this is why it has a very stiff typing feel if you do top mount.

Things like this are also looked for as tells that a board's design might be sloppy in general, but we have videos of people using the QK100 and it sounds pretty good without hollowness/etc, so I'm not too worried about that.

I don't have videos of people using a Seal, but it does look like their design is thoughtful in general, so that offers some hope that it'll be a good board. But I can't say that I know it'll be good, because of course I don't.

>>103169231
ngl ill probs get those keycaps but any cheaper keyboard will do teh same as this one

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i'm trying to build a handwired 5x15 ortholinear keyboard
am i missing anything?

>>103170519
I don't think the xd75 uses any keys that are bigger than 1u so you wont need stabs.
You can use a smaller mcu like a rpi 2040 pro micro or anything that has at least 20 addressable pins (21 if you plan on lighting)
You'll need some keycaps.

>>103170675
yeah keycaps are obvious, not really sure what to get but i want to be as cheap as i can
>so you wont need stabs.
yeah i forgot
i dont want 2u keys to feel heavier because i use two switches though so im not sure how to deal with that issue

>>103170675
>You can use a smaller mcu like a rpi 2040 pro micro or anything that has at least 20 addressable pins
no rgbt for me but i honestly have no idea about electronics and i'm pretty green at soldering too so i'm not really sure what to expect
that rpi for $5 looks fine idk it's whatever really i dont know what's the difference

>>103170694
You will also need diodes for each switch. I suggest you make something small as practise.
https://golem.hu/guide/first-macropad/

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Previous Keebs:
- Truly Ergonomic with Cherry MX Blues
- Kinesis Advantage 2 with Cherry MX Browns

I'm planning on getting the Glove80 after having to suffer through carrying the Kinesis with me during travel. However, I'm torn between the reds, red pros, or the new cherry blossom switches. I have never used linears before but I've heard that they are good for fatigue and strain because I'm on the computer 12+ hours a day typing programming for work. I ordered two switch sampler testers (Cherry MX and Kailh Choc) to get a feel but it's not the same as using them on a real keyboard. What does anon think?

>>103170932
In my experience linear switches are only slightly less fatiguing than tactile (or clicky) switches, unless you have switches that are notably more tactile than MX Blues and Browns, like U4T and those above them. The actual weight of the springs would matter more I'd think, so I wouldn't discount some lighter tactile or clicky switches. Something like, funnily enough, MX Browns (or MX Purple) or Akko Creamy Blues, or clickies like Kailh Box White/Box Pink or Kailh/Chosfox Arctic Fox. Cherry MX Red for linears is probably the absolute heaviest you'd want to go if you're worried about fatigue, with a ~60g bottom out.
You're right that a tester is not the same as using the switches on an actual board either. Another thing to note is that it's much easier to bottom out on linears than even lighter tactiles, which if you aren't used to doing when typing can also prove to me uncomfortable over longer typing sessions, unless you acclimate to it or have a board that takes the edge off of what is effectively slamming your finger into it until the switch stops moving. Things like having a softer material for the switch plate (PC or POM instead of aluminum or stainless steel), gaskets to absorb impact, etc. help with that, especially for linears. My first actual extended typing experiences with linears was with a Wooting Two HE, which has an aluminum plate and comparable weighting to MX Reds, which definitely took me a bit of time to get used to the sensation of basically slamming my fingers into hard metal with no shock absorption.

>>103170932
>>103171062
My bad, I just saw what board you were getting and it's a low profile one. I haven't used Kailh's Choc switches personally, but looking at the weighting for the Brown/White switches it seems like they shouldn't be that fatiguing IMO. Those Cherry Blossom switches seems to have the lowest weighting out of all the switches though (by far), so it still probably wouldn't be a bad idea if you really want to make sure it's not the weighting/force of the switches causing your fatigue.

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Got a sample of the older v2 versions of the Outemu Silent Peach/Lemon with my Cream Yellow switches. I already bought the v3 of the Silent Peach/Lemon switches so I thought I'd do a mini comparison between them.

Obviously the biggest difference between the v2 and v3 is the clear housing on the v3. The Silent Peach v2 feels and sounds the same as the v3, I would actually say v2 feels very very slightly more smooth if anything, but otherwise I can't really say it sounds or feels very different. Silent Lemon v2 has an audible ping at ears length that v3 does not have, so I guess there was some improvement there.

There is also an upgraded version of the Cream Yellow called Yellow Jade with clear housing and slightly more silent, but I don't have those yet.

coworker told me he uses graywoods, they sound kinda comfy.i might throw them in my old planck to give em a try. theyre super cheap apparently, any of you used em?
currently use topre on my main board
I heard these graywoods described as thocky/majong-tile-esque, is that true?

>>103163900
thanks my guy, been eyeing the K8 Pro

You recommend it? Also been looking at their mice m3 - which looks sick

>>103169231
IIK OOK, WOOTING DOOD, WAT NOU?? I bought this yesterday the moment it went online. Think I might also order some Geon RAW HE switches from KBDfans aliexpress since they seem to be the current FOTM for Wooting. Depends on whether or not how happy I am with the default Lekker45 v2

Should be great either way since I'm upgrading from an 11 year old SteelSeries 6Gv2

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>>103171707
>thocky
>majong-tile-esque

>>103171747
I don't have much personal experience with the K-series boards. However, the wireless in K8 pro is bluetooth only, which has higher latency than proprietary 2.4 GHz wireless solutions of the max versions. If you need fast wireless, you should check that it has the 2.4 GHz connection too.

Check out RTINGS reviews of the boards, they have rather comprehensive articles with latencies etc. measured:
https://www.rtings.com/keyboard/reviews/keychron/k8-pro-k2-pro-k3-pro-k4-pro-etc

Thoughts?

https://a.co/d/4aVC0m5
https://a.co/d/3LApWuE
https://a.co/d/3LApWuE

I'll be using for gaming, I have a cheap 1800 for work.

>>103174807
what wrong with getting something cheaper, like a gk61?

>buy keychron keyboard
>realize it doesn't have Num Lock, Caps Lock nor Scroll Lock
is this what keyboard technology has come to? the only options are losing functionality in one way or another? it's either membrane or sacrificing basic functionality?

>>103175196
>>realize it doesn't have Num Lock, Caps Lock nor Scroll Lock
*indicators

>>103175196
If it's a Keychron with backlighting it'll have white lights under the keys when they're toggled, except for Scroll Lock which is bound to something else by default I think.

>>103175196
The C2 doesn't have this problem, nor do a dozen other options you could have spent more than 5 seconds looking at. You're making up problems in your head to coddle your buyer's remorse, just return it if it's such a blocker for you.

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>>103145463
Still rocking this bad boy.

>>103175537
do they make those for normal (heterosexual) men ?

>>103175392
seems to work for caps lock, but not for num lock
>>103175469
i don't care that much, just annoying that they remove basic functionality for no rational reason

>>103174807
Personally I would get a Lucky65 V2 from Aliexpress instead.
Good build quality and all the same features but it's a lot cheaper.

Why is keychron so popular when monsgeek has the same stuff but is less expensive?

>>103176077
are those hotpluggable? doesn't say on the page

>>103176105
they don't have full keyboards and they are more expensive, at least in europe

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>>103176111
Yep, hotswap and via. Just make sure it's the v2 model because the v1 used it's own software. Not sure if anyone even sells the v1 anymore though.
I also like how their marketing guy wrote that it's made of a "CNC Aluminum lump"

>>103176105
terrible color choice in both boards and keycaps

>>103176105
only comes with US keycaps

>>103176105
Keychron is just easier. You can point people to their website and tell them to buy whatever weird layout they want for their specific needs, and a decent keyboard will show up at their door.
For most layouts I can think of a different keyboard that I would rather buy, but I still recomend keychron whenever people aren't interested in reading my essays.

Call it a mental illness if you want, but I'm starting to feel nostalgic for those awful gaming keyboards from the early 2010s.

>>103176224
>tfw been looking for those fuckhuge full size keyboards with side macro keys
I'm still looking for the G710+, the modern logitech keyboads are so goddamn gay.

>>103175895
Interesting. I'm using Cherry switches with the all black housings in my Keychron, so the backlights are almost completely useless in this context. Are your switches similar/only partially transparent?
>>103176105
Monsgeek is kinda meh in my experience comparing them, and having to pop off a key to switch between wireless/wired is a real pain in the ass. I also remember mine dropping inputs now and then.

What's the deal with MX Blacks? I just desoldered around 100 of them from an old Chinese board that somehow used Cherry Blacks and don't understand the hype.

>>103176521
Literally just "street cred". "Yeah, I got some vintage MX Blacks". In terms of feel and sound they're pretty much identical with even the new MX2A Blacks.
Hope you didn't pay much for that.

>>103176542
It was pretty cheap actually, garage sales tier even. Some boomer was cleaning up his electronics and I was lucky to find some no name Chinese board with MX blacks for some reasons. There's no other reviews of it online other than a single one with red switches which baffled me that the boomer somehow got the MX blacks instead.

>>103176559
That's good then.
>There's no other reviews of it online other than a single one with red switches which baffled me that the boomer somehow got the MX blacks instead.
A lot of vintage boards can have different switches, some even can have different switches on the board. It could have switches from different manufacturers even between any given unit you can find. I've seen some that use Alps and others of the same model that end up using foam & foil or rubber domes IIRC, again, for the same exact board (they're probably internally classified as a slightly different model, but still). I also have noticed that there's still quite a few boards that aren't documented well enough online, like on deskthority, and are missing this information for a handful of boards I've seen floating around on ebay with the keycaps pulled off.
I know this PC-8801 board I have has older Alps SKCM Blue switches and it also has their "lock" switches on the lock keys, which act like a pen and stay depressed until you tap them again. Some of the Blues also have waaay heavier springs in them, IIRC around 200g.

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>>103176624
>Some of the Blues also have waaay heavier springs in them, IIRC around 200g

is anyone here autistic enough to have a 100% keyboard and a detachable numpad?

>>103176940
so 2 numpads?

>>103176999
yea

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>>103177039

>>103177056
why not?

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>>103177074
why not do something autistically useful instead? along these lines?

>>103177084
that makes too much sense so it's not fun

>>103176931
kek
>>103176940
>>103177084
An extra numpad can easily be a macropad if you just rebind all the keys on it, seen people do it from streamers to editors or for gayming.

I bought a daring run flip to be my hotswap board for trying stuff. Little did I know it's an enormous pain in the ass to assemble because of the way it's built. "Epic fail" as we used to say 9001 years ago on teh intarnets

What should I use, VIA or VIAL?

>>103178079
if you have a choice, VIAL is much nicer.

>>103178317
yeah I have a Drop CTRL v2 PCB that does both, I just didn't see much of a difference when looking at them so was confused.

bump

What's your "If they make one I'm buying it immediately" board? The one that would tick all the boxes.

For me it's a full-copper-bottom 60% + numpad with indicator LEDs that can be built plateless, with a Cherry G80-style front lip. That'd do it for me, I'd be done.

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Sales are (hopefully) coming up and I'm planning on buying a new board soon.
I know jack about boards however so I've come looking for advice.

My only real requirement is that it be a board with bluetooth compatibility since I plan to use this from a comfy sofa.
I'd greatly prefer a 100% board but am willing to budge to like a 96% board if need be.
And I'm not averse to spending like $80 if the board is of reliable quality. After getting burned by some other wireless boards I realize I can't be too much of a cheapskate here. I'd rather not head into triple digits however since I don't exactly have confidence in board quality right now. So I guess my budget is on the lower to middle end,

After doing a little research it seems like the brand keychron is both popular and with mixed reviews. I was eyeing their K10 model which seems like it ticks those boxes, but was unsure if there's some other brand or model to look at.
Even in this thread I'm seeing some keychron back and forth. So perhaps my question is moot.
Is it some bang for your buck? Or more for semi-cheapskates like myself?

>>103181099
That probably is it for that price range and full size. I hear for the normal K10 it's got some sharp corners, so I'd be wary of that, but otherwise it seems like it's okay. Seems some people say the bluetooth is spotty for Keychron, so IDK.

>>103180958
A full-size 104-key a la Neo or TKD Cycle (ie, bretty good and doesn't cost $500).

I'm a simple man.

I like these BKK v2's, feel/sound pretty decent stock so far with these chink clone gmk 9009 caps https://voca.ro/11cXIKmNhlNL probably gonna lube the stem and spring if I get around to it. I got them super cheap 25$ for 3x35 switches couldn't really pass on it.

>>103181099
keychron v max is pretty good, no complaints, although I liked it better swapped out to some gateron ks-3x47 blacks

>>103181689
The max versions have better bluetooth performance than the older pro versions, and they also have the option to use the much faster 2.4 GHz wireless

>>103181099
Whatever you end up picking from Keychron, it’s worth paying a little extra for a hotswap version.
If you end up disliking the switches it’s better to be able to order a $15 AliExpress replacement set than order a new $100 keyboard.

>>103181099
The V6 max is a lot lighter than K10 max, so it might be more comfy on the couch. K5 max is lighter still, but it is also a low profile keyboard, which is a matter of taste

>>103181689
>>103182328
>>103183623
>>103183852
Thank you for the responses, anons.

Some keys on my keychron v5 won't turn off. I tried everything from donwgrading the firmware to upgrading it back to the newest version.
Clearly it seems to be hardware related.
I don't really give a shit about the lighting as i never use it and have it turned off most of the time, but individual keys malfunctioning and staying on is bugging me as it is really distracting.
Anyone have any ideas beyond just opening the keyboard? (it's 2 years old or something at this point so no warranty either.)
From what i gather their quality control is embarrassing but everything else works i would just yank out the rgb controller / light controller worst case.

>>103184500
What keys stay lit?

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another day not owning a kinesis advantage 360 because im poor and a virgin

>>103185088
del, end, f10, ?-key
Don't really think that is relevant other than maybe indicating than the right upper side of the keyboard is fucked probably.

>>103180958
CNC aluminum F13 TKL with 6.25u bottom row.
Polycarbonate Tofu65 2.0.

>>103184500
Is it white or rgb? Do the keys in question respond when effects are running (dim/change color)?

>>103185168
Yeah I was just wondering if it's the lock keys or something. You could try turning the lighting on, and then tuning the brightness all the way down, to check if the malfunctioning LEDs get dimmer too. Just having them as dim as possible might make them less distracting

>>103185725
maybe I'm missing something but isn't the Evo80 an aluminum F13 tkl with normie 6.25u bottom row?

>>103186064
>maybe I'm missing something
no, no, i was missing something! thank you, i will order it.

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is there a list of switches that have cherry profile keycap compatibility for north facing keyboard?

Boys help me out, I'm looking for a silent switch that has some travel before a tactile bump, has a pronounced bottom out and on the way back up the bump is near smooth. Anyone has any experience like that?

>>103186939
>has some travel before a tactile bump
why would you want this

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>>103186939
somebody told me in a previous thread that lemons were like what you say, but i never tried them

>>103102400
>it feels like the lemon collapses easier. less force to actuate. it almost feels like there's a shelf in the lemon. like, there's a little bit of weaker force required to start the movement, then a hump you have to get over, and then it bottoms out. so i guess that means it's more tactile, i dunno.

>>103186967
Bump at the top feels weird to me. Like a linear that gets lighter rather than heavier when going down.
In a nutshell i want to feel the activation point and not bottom out

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>>103186939
>>103187014
but the graph looks very similar to the silent yellow jade, and the yellow jades definitely have the bump at the top, so i don't know, i can't confirm

>>103187014
>>103187024
i guess the pressure point is sharper on the lemons compared with the yellow jades, even if the distance is the same, so maybe that's why you feel a bump after 1mm rather than at the top

>>103187014
Can confirm and I do like them. The bottom could be more pronounced though. Maybe it's possible to remove part of the squishy dampening material.

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>>103186967
Tactile bumps at the top just kinda suck, unless it's a more rounded and longer tactile event like on Voyagers.
>>103187014
>>103187024
Don't ever take force graphs from manufacturers seriously, their testing is trash. Don't think this is quite the same switch, but still this one shows there is some pre-travel before the tactile event.

>>103187014
>pronounced bottom-out
>outemu lime
lol no

>>103187278
Exactly. I have peach lemon and cream yellow. They're nice but the bottom isn't. I think it's a theme with silent switches

>>103187307
I'm gonna sound like a shill saying this so often but there is a dramatic difference with the lichix raw silents I own, far better bottom-out.

>>103171062
>>103186939
>>103187017
>>103187278
>>103187307
>>103187613
what's a bottom out? asking unironically

>>103187695
the feeling of the stem hitting the bottom housing at the end of the keystroke. Silent switches usually dampen that with a rubbery material, and when it's too thick you get a squishy feeling rather than a nice sharp one.

>>103187729
ah, like that they remove that loud part, i have normal blues when i want to party

>>103186109
Wow, you weren't kidding. Hope it's everything you wanted.

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>want to switch from clicky blue switched to linear
>my keeb isn't hot swappable, i have to solder so i want switches that will be nice to keep using for years
>want quick responsiveness for gaming or music production, not prioritizing typing feel
gateron smoothe silver is $5-7.5 if i exploit aliexpress welcome deal
HMX cloud is like $33
are there other switches i should be looking at? preferably below $40 for 90 switches. planning to keep the factory lube.

>Gateron Smoothie Silver
Type: Linear
Operating Force: 45±15gf
Pre-Travel: 1.2±0.3mm
Total Travel: 3.4mm±0.4mm
Housing: Full POM material

>HMX Cloud
Switch Type: Linear
Stem material: LY
Top Housing: PA12
Bottom Housing: PA2.0 (modified nylon)
Operating Force: 42±5g
Bottom-out Force: 50±5g±5g
Spring: 22mm single-stage spring
Pre-travel: 2.0mm
Total Travel: 3.9±0.3mm (Around 3.7mm in real life)

>>103189252
50g is lighter than you're used to, and imo too light. Cherry blues at 60g at bottom-out, 65g peak. I'd look for something 60-65g. They do offer clouds in a 63g variant, I'd look at that instead.

Although really if it's me I'd just go for something like a Gateron KS-3. But I guess it wouldn't be lubed.

>Gaming responsiveness
I think this stat is overrated, the only difference will be the actuation point. Some have it closer to the top of the press, which means more accidental key presses but quicker actuation when you're pressing a key in a game. I don't like that trade-off, even for gaming. If that's what you want you could look at things like Geon MX Raptor, HMX Perky, Akko Silver, etc.

>>103189252
I'm not a linear guy so I can't give much advice there, but I will say that you should buy something like a $15 Tester68 or Novice68 so you can test out the switches before you commit to soldering.

>>103189252
Probably also look at some "speed" switches that'll have a bit shorter travel distance and actuation points, if you really think you need it.
IMO hall effect linears like on Wooting are a bit of a cope, if you think fractions of fractions of a second will make you a "better gamer", and things like rapid-trigger just feel bad to me personally. Just like how many boards are now going from 1000hz to 8000, 1k is already overkill for human reactions.

>>103189346
they don't seem to have the heavier HMX cloud variant on aliexpress. hoping i can get used to the lighter feel. i'm not trying to be a pianist (they like really heavy keys) but the synth style keyboards still have a heavier feel than a typing keyboard so maybe the discrepancy will be awkward xd
good point about accidental key presses, helps me cope with the 2.0mm vs 1.2mm pre-travel on cloud or other switches vs smoothie silver

whats considered a long pole in a switch

>>103189448
When the center pole of a stem bottoms out before the side rails, that's it.

>>103189454
how do i know it does that before buying the switches?

>>103189477
It'll be specified on whatever shop page you're buying said switches from.

there's also
>HMX Hyacinth V2 (total travel 3.5mm)
>HMX White Fox v2 (total travel 3.8mm)
they seem to have the same specs except for the total travel. chosfox calls White Fox v2 a budget switch, is the POM stem worse than the LY stem on HMX cloud?

Switch Type: Linear
Stem material: POM
Top Housing: PC
Bottom Housing: Modified Nylon
Operating Force: 45g
Bottom-out Force: 52g
Spring: 22mm single-stage spring
Pre-travel: 1.9mm

>>103189491
where does it say it here
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006817347210.html

>>103189612
It should specify, but I guess this page doesn't. Another clue is if the travel distance is less than 4.0mm.

>>103189684
>Another clue is if the travel distance is less than 4.0mm.
thanks. now ill look for switches with travel distance of 4mm or higher

>>103189723
You're not gonna find any MX switches with more than 4mm of travel.

there's also
>HMX Hyacinth V2U (total travel 3.9mm)
it's supposed to have a deeper thockier sound than Hyacinth V2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4GaTBBPgyw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOFZ9rnIXpk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WbXFtejYfo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_THv9GHryeI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrEzhwJxQ0g

>>103189771
Dislike that sound. Not the Cycle's fault—I'm blaming HMX for this one.

>>103176542

some old cherry g80s do have different mx black switches that are crazy smooth. i think calling them vintage mx blacks is just a misnomer making people think any old 80s keyboard has special mx blacks. ive only found one keyboard out of probably like 15 that had unique mx blacks in them but theyre far smoother than all these new lubed switches and even my NIB G80-1000HAD

Yunzii AL75
Was on sale on Amazon, came to me for like $81 shipped so I'm just fucking around with it right now. Up until now the most "premium" board I've used is the Keychron Q1 for context. So far I'm happy with the construction quality, overall feel and sound. Biggest complaints so far are no VIA, their driver/software is quite shit, and switching between 2.4Ghz and bluetooth is slower than other boards I've had (Keychrons, Razers). Neither are dealbreakers for me and I will probably just leave the factory "Cocoa Cream" linears in here. My previous favorites were Akko Cream Yellows and on paper they should be almost identical, but these feel and sound better to me. This is probably because I don't mod my boards/case and I was using the Akkos in a Keychron V1 (sounds crappy stock TBQH), and the construction of this board is just superior. At most I will swap keycaps, I just don't like black+blue although they texture on this is acceptable.

>TL;DR
>Fairly cheap board, feels good out of box, shit software/no VIA.

Hopefully someone finds this helpful

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IRIS CE with twilight switches I built today. Trying to learn Colemak-DH since I'm changing everything up anyways, and hopefully keep serviceable QWERTY muscle-memory for when I can't use it. First new keyboard in over 10 years, my Poker II is still fine but damn this VIA configuration is so nice. Also getting tired of MX Blues. I just wonder how long the learning will take

>>103186967
Some of us like that feel better. Cherry brown enjoyers, for example. The bump is like a subtle tactile representation of the actuation point.

>>103191974
Speaking of qwerty, you should be able to do shit like have ctrl toggle a qwerty layer so all your shortcuts are still the same as they always were.

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currently took apart my pro 2 and have been attempting to retrobrite it, i checked it after 6 hours of it soaking in 12% hp + oxi clean and it's looking much better.
from my understanding it's gonna yellow at an even faster rate now. not sure what to do about that other than get a charcoal colorway on my next hhkb. frankly the yellowing doesnt bother me that much except when it's uneven but i wanted a fresh start, since i was taking it apart to clean it and relube

das gay, show me some actual carpal tunnel keyboards

>>103160320
It's clearly a defective product. I would return it.

>>103187729
are O-rings a dead meme? or similar DIY mods for switches that aren't marketed as "silent"?

>>103191974
very nice

>>103193230
Look for plastic anti UV coatings

>>103193427
O rings on a keyboard is fucking retarded. Always was

my epomaker th80 suffered spontanious pcb failure after a year. whats a good prebuilt ~80% ish keyboard that'll actually last?

>>103194421
okay so should i buy specific "silent" switches? HMX silent sakura isn't on aliexpress. other brands would surely compromise the feel. but the clacky bottoming out noise of linear switches is stupid with similar decibel levels as the clicky blue sound.

for context: i have a dead silent pc setup for music production

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so are there other mods that have a similar effect or should you buy a purpose-made silent switch

>>103194770
I had a board with o-rings on it a few years ago. They helped for a little while, but eventually they broke in enough that they were *only* making the keys feel mushy and didn't even silence them by much. Definitely get silent switches if your goal is to lower the noise level. Silent switches should also be part of a broader strategy of stuffing the case full of foam. If cost is no object, then I would recommend using Sorbothane as the bottom case foam.

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gateron zero degree maybe... not the most quiet but maybe a good balance of feels while not being loud. HMX silent sakura has stem wobble.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRaPGLe5W3M

>>103193427
I think so yeah.

>>103195145
heard they feel like shit
my current silent endgame are the TTC frozen silent v2s, but they cost like half the price of my brand new kb and I could only stomach ordering 10 off ali

how reliable is the factory lubing these manufacturers do nowadays? do the switches still need filming?

>>103195820
I think factory lubing has gotten better but it still varies a lot. I was pleased with the factory lube job on my newest Gateron G Pro 3s, but also tried some aqua and oil kings which were just soaked in lube inside and out.
>filming
I don't bother unless I can wiggle the halves of the housing by hand, and I've only found that with some Durocks.

>>103196885
its my understanding that filming switches can give them a deeper sound signature, as well as decreasing the wobble.
i got some durock l5's that im lubing and filming for a keyboard im gonna get sometime in december

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>>103189737
hey nigga, does this mean that the total travel distance would be 4mm?
im assuming taht all switches that have 4mm travel distance have plong poles, as its the only way i can tell rn.

>>103197279
No, it has 3.6mm of travel, and they just have that tolerance as a CYA.

>>103197357
thanks, this makes my research easier

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I really like the typing feel of the HHKB but I'm not a fan of its layout.
What are some other good comparable topre boards with a normal layout?
I've tried cheaper "fake topre" boards like the niz plum and wasn't a fan.

>>103197416
Realforce
Made by same company, same tech, just has a normal layout
The Realforce R3 has recently become available in US layout, I would suggest that
It's wireless, takes standard batteries, which is nice since you can swap them out without needing to charge
You can even have a set of rechargeable batteries and rotate them so you never have down time

>>103197416
>>103197439
https://www.realforce.co.jp/products/C1HK11/

>>103197439
>>103197510
Thanks anons.
Gonna pick up a full-size R3 since I already have a 65% layout

What's the keycap scene look like for these boards? Absolutely barren?

>>103197632
You might have trouble finding r3 keycaps with an english layout
But give it some time and it'll become more of a thing
There's probably official ones for now
Check out Japanese amazon

Hi, looking for a new mechanical keyboard. Really prefer it to be white, but if it limits my options too much, I could settle.

1. $100±20
2. US/EU
3. Something silent, so maybe reds
4. ANSI
5. 100% or 96%
6. RGB preferred, but could go without

Already checked out the K4 Pro QMK and the Royal Kludge RK96, but maybe these aren't the best?

>>103198111
epomaker aula f99

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What is the best quiet keyboard I can buy / make? What sorta things should I be looking for. Doesn't have to be too crazy, noise is fine just what are the general principles and what keys are best?

Is the moonlander a good first split keyboard? Or are there any other go-to split keyboards?

ordered asus azoth for 150€, hope its as good as they say and doesnt get ruined when I spill my drink on it
>ROG NX Snow Switches

my current wireless kb has like shitty connectivity and keys sometimes repeat so maybe paying more means better connectivity

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>>103198700
I'd recommend a dactyl over it personally, but there are plenty of good split columnar stagger boards out there.

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>>103145485
Haven't you given up on learning it yet?
I tried to use it for two weeks, it's just not worth it.

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>>103198700
Adelheid

>>103199423
I've been using a dactyl for years now, so no. I used an ergodox beforehand which is why I modified the dactyl to more closely resemble the ergodox layout. Shit like the inner column of 3 keys, the extra bottom row keys, etc.

>>103198445
Really the only essential things are silent switches and lubed stabalisers, everything else comes down to personal preference and your budget.

>>103198700
It's my first split keyboard and I enjoy it. Comes with a free typing game so you can practice. There is a little learning curve but it's not too bad. You'll be a little slow for a couple of weeks.

ive decided im gonna get akko rosewood switches for my secondary keyboard, even though i prefer heavy linears

>>103199763
https://divinikey.com/products/geon-springs-22mm-triple-stage?variant=40414963957825

>>103199881
NTA but what's the difference feel-wise between single & triple stage springs?

>>103199934
No idea. I think it's just an anti-buckling thing they do on longer springs.

>>103199941
Yea that's what I remember reading as well, but I just never actually looked into it beyond that.

>>103193759
from my understanding the yellowing will continue even if you kept the keyboard in a light-tight container in a box in a basement with no light or UV coming in at all. so idk if anti-uv coating would help me. i think my best bet is to sell it after retrobrighting and get a newer model that doesn't use ABS anymore or charcoal colorway.

>>103194770
>>103194837
i agree, o-rings are a meme, after sometime it makes it feel mushy. i have two boards with mx browns and same keycaps and one has o-rings that are broken in and the one without feels 100x better to type on and isn't really all that much louder except some of the mod keys. there are other things that are way more effective at sound reduction.

shell material, foam mod, and then a big one is the desk itself, i put some extra foam under my keyboard as well as inside the shell, i put some cloth under it too, and have a thick desk. when i take away all that stuff and just put the board directly on the desk the reverberance is way louder.

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A few questions for /g/ experts
- Glove80 or Dygma Defy? If money isn't a problem, I don't have a strong need for ZMK, I want weighty ergos and good tenting, and am not a fan of chocs
- is it worth waiting for HE in ergo keyboards, given what we've seen this year?
- what's a good layout to learn that handles US-International? (i.e. US ANSI with capability for most ISO accents I need)


Just ordered some Wuque Morandi & TTF Frozen v2 to improve my current setup in the meantime.

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Anyone have recs for a 100% board with a navy blue case? This Zoom TKL is basically the color I'm looking for, but doesn't get bigger than TKL. Most other boards claiming to be "navy" are much brighter in color and I'd want to stay pretty dark.
> Budget: <$150
> Preferred Switches: MX Silent Red or Silent Black, but any silent-style switch is probably fine.
> Layout: ANSI
> Backlight: No (or, if yes, can disable)

>>103195003
The tolerances on the springs Gateron uses makes their switches feel kinda shit and all over the place to me. I find it especially egregious considering how much they charge on some of them. +/-5g should be the standard these days (if not more like 2 or 3), but even their "best" lineups are still around an 8g variance IIRC.

>>103199881
I'd love if they made some of these that are even lighter, like a few in the 50-55g range, so like 50, 52.5 and 55.

What plate material should I get for Kailh Box Pink switches?

>>103200610
PP

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Right now I have a Razer 60% and it’s driving me and my roommate crazy because its way too loud and echoes way too much at night. It’s also way too fucking small and useless, I need the F buttons and arrows.

Need a new $40-$70 keyboard that’s 70%, has a knob and is more silent than my current. I was looking at the 8bitdo and it seems pretty good but also all the Amazon ones seem good too. Any help?

>press delete key
>feel the board vibrating all the way at left shift
Is this how gaskets are supposed to work

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>>103161907
shiii

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>>103200839
>$40-$70
Go to aliexpress and buy an Aula F75, because it's cheaper there compared to anywhere else. It'll be quieter than your current keyboard because I assume you have clicky Razer green switches.
If you want it even quieter, you can spend another $15 to replace the switches with some outemu silent switches for $15.
I think that's your best option in this price range.

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I'm convinced that a big reason why so many people think 65% keyboards look better than 75% ones is because most keycap sets make the function keys different colours.
Looks way better if they're all the same colour.

Do not buy speed switches
They are a royal pain to type on

>>103200839
8bitdo will probably still be a little bit too loud for you.
If you're worried about keeping roommates up at night you should look into a keyboard with silent switches instead.

what do I replace my 10 year old leopold fc500r browns with if I want the same thing

>>103203002
Just keep using it, or fix it if it's broken.

friend gave me a planck ez, i didnt like the default layout so i'm trying to flash it and i have to say this is by far the most retarded and frustrating thing i've tried to do with a keyboard before. the stupid fucking applications for this process are all outdated, dropped support for this particular model of planck, some of the documentation for this board in specific is all 404'd. some said the firmware needs to be a hex file, but the qmk configurator itself is giving me .bin files, that give "error reading line 1" when i try to flash it onto the board. even trying to reflash the default keymap isnt fucking working so now the board is just paperweight until i can figure how to flash it. wasted like 4 hours already on this gay bullshit.

>>103203002
Assuming that for some reason you can't keep using the old keyboard, just get a Keychron V6 with brown switches.

>>103194667
O rings don't compromise the feel?

>>103203214
aren't orthotrannies supposed to be good with software

>>103204654
that was then
this is now

>>103203002
with browns ofc

I like my browns spring swapped to 15mm 65g springs, filmed, and lightly lubed with tribosys 3204.

>>103203214
Have you tried ZSA's own oryx firmware/configurator? I found that a lot easier to use with my ergodox EZ

Should I get a Lucky65 V2 from AliEx? I see it has VIA support now which was one of the biggest deterrents to the V1 when I looked in the past.
I was also considering Neo65 but it's hard to justify double the price after shipping

>>103201352
I don't mind the fn row having two colors as long as they're both different from the alphas. That set would look better if f1-4 and 8-12 were the lighter green with the esc as the dark green.

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been using a logitech g413 tkl for about 2 and a half years, ordered a Keychron v3 Max that should be coming in the next 10 days. what am I in for?

>>103199763
nvm i decided on gateron everfree curry switches. therye cheaper and still sound the same as rosewood, and a little bit heavier

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It's happening again.

https://cannonkeys.com/collections/sale

Full "Mystery build" for $69 of one of their old Brutal series aluminum keyboards. I've bought 'mystery switches' from them before, nothing wrong any of the ones I got, just meme switches that never got hyped enough to sell. And it'll come with their PBT keycaps probably, nothing wrong with those. You'll have to assemble it yourself but it's still a hell of a deal at that price.

Brutal V2 1800 for $150—I paid 200 for mine in a previous sale and it's a fantastic board. The 65% is gonna be $99.

>>103200316
in my experience the real variance is far smaller than stated an a lot of switched. When I tested Cherries I couldn't find more than +/- 1.5g and my testing method would have if anything overstated the variance.

>>103200139
Brutal V2 1800 isn't true 100% but it's close, it comes in a proper navy blue and it's a good full alu half-gasket board with zinc internal weights, it'll be on sale for 150 at cannonkeys on the 25th. That doesn't come with switches and caps but I just had to mention it. I own a Brutal V2 1800 and it's a great board, I don't think anything at 150 comes close.

I assume these have been posted, but Woot is having a Keychron sale. Entire Q series lineup under $100, kinda crazy.
https://computers.woot.com/plus/keychron-mechanical-keyboards-6

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>keycaps cost more than the keyboard
fuck me for not wanting GMK clones

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>>103169231
got my 80HE (l60 lekkers, plastic case) a few days ago and it's absolutely insane how good it feels to type on. was on a filco majestouch 2 w/ blue cherries prior, also used a razer huntsman v3 tenkeyless for a week and a brown cherries ninja before the majestouch. was scared the 80HE would suck to type on cuz some retard typephilic youtuber said so but it feels infinitely better than any previous keyboard that's ever been under my hands
barely played any games on it, mostly got this one to experiment around with the hall effect SDK for non-gaming purposes but haven't had the drive to actually do that since receiving it. but typing on it feels orgasmic. 1000% recommend

>>103208493
>prior experience is old ass original cherry switches
yeah everything modern is going to feel amazing to type on compared to those OG switches

Are Cooler Master Storm QuickFire Rapid still good nowadays?

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What is the purpose of these keys? Who uses them and what for?

>>103208857
I use Home, End, PgUp, PgDn daily for work (software) and occasionally use Delete instead of Backspace
I never use Insert because I don't use IDEs/text editors that make Insert activate "replace" mode

>>103208857
insert -> overwrite text, mostly useless
delete -> delete text to the right, useful
home -> go to the beginning of the line, useful
end -> go to the end of the line, useful
page up -> scroll a page up, useful
page down -> scroll a page down, useful

???

>>103208857
I use them a lot when writing code. Home takes you to the start of the line or top of the page in Chrome. End does the opposite—end of line, end of page. Page up/down is same as scrolling but to a fixed value. Insert is useless.

>>103208857
shift+insert pastes from the clipboard on Linux

Is it possible for QMK/VIA to make Caps Lock into a modifier key?

>>103209566
Yes. Make any key any key.

>>103209566
Yes. There's nothing special about it. Just set it as the modifier you want.

>>103209579
>>103209588
Thanks, guess I'll make it alt then.

>>103209636
A long time ago, I had one with ctrl there. It was just terrible. Never again.

>>103209677
I remember some of those earlier mechanical keyboards used to have a little toggle with this on the back usually. I have a lot of muscle memory with alt in it's default position as a modifier, but this will just be for WoW so it won't really interfere as I plan on having a WoW only keyboard so not a big deal.

>>103208857
i personally use home and end keys a lot, especially on 4chan to go to the top or bottom of the page. delete is useful as well, idc about the other ones

>>103209908
get a mouse with auto-switching infinityscroll retard (only ones are logitech mx series and razer barracuda v3s)
one strong roll on the scroll and you're at the bottom or top in a second
i use home and end keys a lot for console commands or just typing in telegram discord tho

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>>103209723
>I plan on having a WoW only keyboard

>>103209967
Just how I roll, I use the MX Keys for everything except when I play WoW due to the latency.

>>103209929
Home and End are literally instant scroll top and bottom, infinite scroll still takes a few second.

>>103210100
maybe if the thread is rly long but it's so cool to watch
just stopwatched my barracuda v3, took less than 1.5s both up and down (my mx3 would take even less, it has better wheel but in all other aspects the mouse sucks)

>>103209929
How does a mouse help to move my cursor to the beginning of the command line?

>>103209723
my brother is one of the top WoW players in the world (not kidding, there were a couple weeks where he had rank 1 parse all classes) and he uses a neo80 with gateron ks-3x47 switches swapped to 45g springs. Before that he used a corsair with cherry reds. He likes the Neo80 better but he didn't need to change boards, his was just looking kinda ratty after years of misuse.

keyboard for WoW just isn't that important

>>103210297
just read the post where you said your main board has latency, I take it back. you need a keyboard for WoW

>>103210297
>>103210353
>my brother is one of the top WoW players in the world (not kidding, there were a couple weeks where he had rank 1 parse all classes)

In the context of WoW PvE that doesn't even make any sense, if you play the game it's obvious why.

>>103210410
ok whatever man he was #1 all-star points on warcraft logs on the raid that week not just for his own class but for all classes all servers

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>>103210661
guys who look like that aren't actually top 0.1%. my brother just looks like a normal guy. Stop coping you fucking tard I wasn't trying to emasculate you I'm just trying to give you keyboard advice

>>103210497
That's what I mean in the context of WoW it doesn't make any sense, the top players in both PvE/PvP are players who are consistently at the top either in 3v3 or Mythic+ or raiding at world first level so you would just mention that if you are a top WoW player. There is a lot of multi classing going on for some in this category like Gingi etc, but nobody is gearing every single class in the game among this level of player.

The logistics of what your brother is doing would only be possible with someone cheesing logs in lower difficulties content where there is no competition, you are just not going to have the time or access to be gearing all classes to be competitively geared on Mythic difficulty for that AND beat every single person on every class/spec at the same time on every single boss.

If you are talking about WoW Classic, no top player is playing that, and I have no idea how competitive it is but it's irrelevant really.

>>103210707
You're just not understanding what I mean when I say all classes. I mean his one character had the top all-star points across all classes.

>>103210758
Point still stands though, I can see from the logs none of the guys at the top of this are top level players, they are just people cheesing logs in raids on farm. I have literally never heard of any of the players.

>>103210802
Alright fine you smug faggot it was on classic. He's still 1000x better than YOU

>>103210983
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>>103210983
next

>>103210898
Absolutely zero chance. Most PvE players even on retail are terrible at the game, except for a few exceptional ones like Gingi. Your brother is a Wow Classic PvE player, the subhumans of WoW.

>>103210992
Zero shot you'd parse better than him if the two of you played the same class at the same time. Anyone who consistently played retail through the dark ages post-MoP has absolutely zero standards and is a natural slave

>>103211021
I mean realistically I would demolish him at anything in the game, he is a WoW Classic subhuman who plays PvE.

Honestly you need at least a few R1 titles from arena to really understand WoW at a fundamental level. I'm just on a different level when it comes to the game compared to your subhuman brother, he is like an ant to me.

>>103211128
Doubt it. All the guys at the very top in PvE do some PvP as well, if you knew anything about that world you'd know that. You're pretending to be a much better player than you actually are. Take the advice about the keyboard or leave it. If you want to listen to some streamer you've heard of instead and buy some gaymer shit, be my guest

>>103211166
But your brother isn't at the top of anything, PvE or PvP so I don't get what you are trying to say. And that's not really how the game works, the only player I know about who is playing at absolute top level in both PvE and PvP is a guy called Trill. Most people who PvE are just bad at the game. Your brother is some subhuman who doesn't understand the game at all, I would demolish him at any part of the game without any effort.

>You're pretending to be a much better player than you actually are.

I just know from what you have told me, your brother has no idea about what top level player actually is, so he has no idea how the game works. He is just a WoW Classic casual who plays PvE, literally a subhuman.

>You're pretending to be a much better player than you actually are.

Who asked? I asked a question about QMK/VIA, not what keyboard your subhuman brother is using.

>>103211226
yes, that's right, you asked an incredibly stupid and obvious question about QMK/Via, namely, whether it can be used to configure a key mapping, which is the most basic advertised functionality of QMK/Via