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Cock.li is kill?
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>>103167023
well no, it's on red alert.
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Ransomware
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>>103167023
making it public again was a mistake, sticking to invite only was better
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>>103167106
Webmail is still working, thankfully.
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oh shit
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>>103167242
sexo
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>>103167242
This
Webmails? Compromised
First buzzheavier now this. The glowies are trying so hard
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>>103167204
all they had to do was rangeban thirdies
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>>103167023
n-no
this is a joke right
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>>103167393
no
is kil
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>>103167023
tl;dr they're asking for donations
the website it's fine, it's just a scary message like on wikipedia
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>>103167337
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>>103167023
If you have nothing to hide, mate, you got nothing to fear.
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>>103167337
ban united statesians you stupid cunt
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>>103167465
>>103167023
> mentions how it won't be complicit in crimes under duress of any government
> gives a shout out to ladar levison
it would appear to me that they've got some kind of order from some kind of court order from someone.
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whoever said the shitcoin addresses were fake, they're not. but the bitcoin address has no transactions at all, so it's possibly brand new
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What did he mean by this?
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>>103167546
oops. forget the wrong address i accidentally pasted into the monero pic when i screenshotted it.
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>pay us to quit our jobs and offer funny email service
vincent is seriously going senile...
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>>103167023
Vincent is such a fucking drama queen. I met him at 29c3 (+/- a few years) and he was generally unpleasant to be around.
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>>103167242
gpg: Signature made Tue 12 Nov 2024 22:25:10 EET
gpg: using RSA key 5CB49CDCEAC797FBF8BDC074FD71AD2771A5CC1B
gpg: issuer "vc@cock.li"
gpg: Good signature from "Vincent Canfield <vc@cock.li>" [full]
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>>103167023
wtf, how will i access my bank now
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>>103167549
>In the 2022 film COCKCON 2020 (2019), a 250MB encrypted file was hidden in a second video track of the 1080p release. You can download this film here. I don't know if the encryption key will ever be released, but if it does, you'll want quick access to that file.
>
>Furthermore, two more files are released today, 2024-11-12: ins10.luks (555MB) and ins11.luks (64MB). Please download these torrents and seed them as long as you can. Please consider your privacy when seeding.
We just don't know.
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Well shit, what am I supposed to use for anonymous email now?
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Um, this doesn't look like the typical Wikipedia "we need donations" type of ordeal.
They also don't have "We haven't been subpoenaed" in the canary. What happened?
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>>103168232
Probably yet another domestic terrorist act committed by one of the users taking advantage of the service. Or some kind of treason.
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>>103167907
Maybe password to the LUKS encrypted file demuxed from movie is somewhere in this notice?
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>>103168232
they're literally just saying they are running out of money and need donations to continue operating, with a scary alert to catch attention.
it's not very hard to understand unless you are a cheap nigger
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>>103168536
There's a difference between
>CODE RED, WE ARE OUT OF FUCKING MONEY. PLEASE HELP US
and
>CODE RED, WE WILL ACT AS SUSPICIOUS AS POSSIBLE TO THE POINT YOUR AVERAGE RANSOMWARE GLOWS LESS
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>>103168536
This was a month ago. That's around $87000 with the recent inflation.

Their warrant canary is gone, and I don't know whether that's due to shitty redirects (everything goes to the "warning"), but it's kinda suspicious that they used the wording, from their canary, at the top of the page now.

- From 2017 to 12 September 2024, cock.li has not received:

* A gag order preventing the disclosure of a broad order for user metadata
* A gag order preventing the disclosure of a broad order for user data
* A gag order preventing the disclosure of a targeted order for user data
* A gag order preventing the disclosure of a targeted order for user metadata

Cock.li has never received a legal order enforceable in its jurisdiction for user data.

Cock.li has never received a legal order enforceable in its jurisdiction for any broad class of users.

Cock.li has never received a gag order preventing disclosure of any broad order.

A gag order refers to any legal order enforceable in cock.li's jurisdiction preventing disclosure of:
* A request or order for user information
* A request or order for investigative assistance
* A request or order for technical assistance
* Any other request, order, demand, or information of any type

Cock.li would shut down before becoming complicit in crimes against its own userbase under duress of any government or organization.
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>>103168557
>>103168585
they are 100% under a gag order from glowies
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>believing in email "privacy"
>using a meme email for anything important
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>>103168713
it was mostly used by 4chan users to communicate without doxxing themselves. at least I used it that way
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>>103167023
>I love you ladar levison
These niggas under government gag order?
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>>103168585
seems pretty clear that they're indicating that all the terms of the canary have been violated since they're using the same language for a new canary about hardware
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>>103167023
Glowniggers always ruin everything good
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this is terrible
>>103168713
kys gtfo
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I'm more concerned about cockbox
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>>103167023
pretty sure they ask for a LOT of identifying info when signing up for a library card.
Which is kinda wack now that I think about it
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>>103168610
maybe they know smth they shouldn't
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They're going after the private proxies stealing LLM keys, a lot of people use cock.li to get into these proxies and in some proxies it's required.
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>>103169151
/chag/bros...
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>>103169151
I seriously doubt this is related to that
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>>103169151
Feds have far bigger fish to catch.
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>>103167023
cock.li was never about privacy and vc made that clear every time since the very start
sounds like bogus lawsuits and threats are actually threatening him
>>103167546
brand new btc wallet is quite suspicious, guess they are seizing his financials but the servers not being seized is much more suspicious
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavabit
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>>103169151
I find it hard to believe Drago would still be free if they were going after private proxies
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>>103167546
So how do you know it's not fake then
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>>103169379
Isn't the message containing the wallet address signed by Vince? Unless his PGP keys are compromised, this address is probably specifically for this banner.
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So they're under a gag order or otherwise having glowie issues.

Why the donation drive then? Is it all just a red herring, basically an excuse to send out a "RED ALERT we need donations! please give us money! this is a donation drive email! oh btw also here's the wrong canary ;)"?
I would've said it might be for legal fees but the wording is pretty explicit
>We have a sizable donation pool for hosting and legal expenses. Sadly, our real lives got in the way as we get older, and we've been taking steps back to compensate when we should ave been stepping up. Now is your chance to make a real difference by telling us to use your donation where it will help the most right now: to allow our small team to step away from our jobs and pour all of our passion into this service to keep it alive.
>>We have a sizable donation pool for hosting and legal expenses
So even taking their larp about "we don't want to use website donations to pay ourselves" at face value, they'd still be able to at least pay legal expenses with it according to their own statements.

So red herring is about the only thing I can think of
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>>103169439
What about the insurance files?
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>>103169458
Well, they're clearly not directly related to the donations either.
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vincent if you can hear us please post itt
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>>103169439
You're the one asserting that this is a donation drive and not an alert. The addresses are simply listed at the end of the first alert/message, they're not in any way the focus. As already pointed out in this thread, they have relatively decent funding already.
This isn't really different from their normal operations where they have a donation link on their pages. Accepting donations doesn't mean you're doing some kind of fund raising event (in perpetuity).
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>>103169464
Any theories what's inside them? And why three separate files?
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>>103169222
If they seized his financials why would he publish a new BTC wallet anyway? If he's under investigation or something, there's zero reason they wouldn't seize it too. And it might even end up implicating users who send it somehow, if not explicitly then at least by linking them to a watchlist. (>inb4 you used cock.li anyway: having an account isn't the same thing as directly financially supporting it.)
At that point just ask for monero only.
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>>103169482
>You're the one asserting that this is a donation drive and not an alert.
On the surface it literally is a donation drive.
>For the first time ever, I'm asking you to donate directly to the small team that makes cock.li possible.
The 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 6th paragraphs are a wall of text explicitly talking about money, how the team was never paid despite all the hard work, how they need donations now, encouraging you to send money and explicitly asking for donations. Only the 1st paragraph ("we'll shut down if coerced") is explicitly unrelated, and the 5th one is the only other one that doesn't explicitly mention money.
In other words, most of the main text body - outside of the canary, dead-man's files, and fun facts section - IS explicitly a donation drive.

Now what I am saying is that I do suspect that this is merely a disguise, and the email IS intended as an alert and simply framed as a donation drive for plausible deniabilty or some kind of legalistic compliance with a gag order. But if you take it at face value, they are very much literally asking for donations.
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>>103167023
I stopped supporting cockli when they dropped the domain nuke.africa.
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>take down original canary page, under the guise of "everything is redirected to the money begging page!" for plausible deniability
>send out an alert containing a DIFFERENT and very suspicous canary, but it's just standard practice to attach it at the end of a totally normal donation drive email, nothing to see here
Yeah this really does read like a method to work around a gag order. Taking down just the canary page could've been ruled as an explicit notification, but saying you're out of money and wiping the entire website can just plausibly be explained as wanting more money and shutting down the website until you get it. Sending out an alert email about the canary might've been against the gag order while sending out fundraising emails might be considered fine and allowed.

Also the canary's wording:
>Cock.li is in 100% control of all of its hardware
Nothing about its software, or network connections?
>and the service is still operating normally
So it's operating, but again no word on gag orders or surveillance orders.
>The website (account registration+pw change)
is currently offline.
In other words: "the original canary is offline". Explicitly calling your attention to go check the website and see this.

Only good thing about this is the assurance that "cockli will shut down before being complicit in crimes against its userbase" etc. Which seems to indicate that they haven't been "complicit in crimes" yet. At the same time, a DAILY canary seems to indicate that they expect the situation to potentially change very quickly.

My best guess is: they got a gag order; perhaps they were even left with control of their hardware specifically to continue operating to avoid tipping anyone off, as part of the gag order. And they're under active investigation or something, but haven't been coerced into handing over any major data yet. But the situation is rapidly evolving and they expect they might be, hence the daily updating canary.
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>>103169487
Thousands of original hand made memes from Vince. Every country kneels to this power/threat and will do anything to prevent the keys from being released.
In sincerity, I bet it's something equally as arbitrary and pointless like dolphin porn, but the fact that nobody knows (besides vc) is the entire weight of the tactic in the first place. It could be garbage like that, it could be emails containing government secrets from the offending country.
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>>103168585
Was I the onlt one to notice that the donation bar went up scarily fast a couple of weeks ago?
>just here for
>looks (and more)
But maybe this is just an attempt to deanonymize a login...
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>>103169487
Nigger we all just got the shadiest sounding email with a weirdly worded request for donations to brand new wallets, the weirdest sounding canary ever, three encrypted files, and a list of fun facts about cock.li. While the main website gets defaced and replaced with a single page containing the same stuff.
Nobody has any idea what's going on, or at least I certainly don't.

For all I know it's a fucking ARG and vincent's just being a weird faggot doing this for advertisement/attention or something.
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>>103169362
if you know their nickname they are glowing.
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>>103169649
Did the balance also go up, or just the bar?
Also did it actually go up or was it just random? I honestly never paid attention to the cosmetic bar
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By the way, the emails have this, which the website doesn't have:
>You can verify this PGP signed message by checking the fingerprint at the bottom of the welcome e-mail you received when you first opened your cock.li account.

>For the first time ever, I'm asking you to donate directly to the team that makes cock.li possible. For 11 years unpaid work has kept this site alive; the war chest for legal funds has never once been used to pay anyone directly related with the service for their work.

>Now, an existential threat faces the site which requires the team to take leave from our jobs and daily lives and commit full-time to keeping the service online. Without your help, cock.li might shut down, but we are giving it everything we've got.
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>>103169540
it has long been over.
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This is a tacit announcement of a gag order disguised as a donation drive. That, to me, is very clear.
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>>103169668
i didnt really look at the details
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>>103167023
>all of our hardware is in our possession
>hardware
what about the software? Can glowies ssh into the servers at any time? Does cock.li host their site where they are physically located? Rented hardware is not "theirs"...
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who up seedin they cock?
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>>103167907
Some sort of dead man's switch?
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>had my 10 year old steam account with no alternative recovering method there
Guys.........
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>>103169812
The mail server is still up, it's just the front page that's down.
Better change that recovery email while you still can.
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>>103169827
>Connection to storage server failed.
Yut oh
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why the fuck would any glowies target cock.li anyway?
since only retard would use it for serious purpose
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>>103169844
shut the fuck up
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>>103169844
criminals are not usually known for their outstanding genius
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>>103169827
Is Steam autistitic about non mainstream providers like GMX?

>>103169842
please no

Also what the fuck, this day was never supposed to come
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>>103169844
I just want a fucking email that doesn't require a phone number to sign up. I don't have my bank account in there, but otherwise it's actually pretty good. A few years ago they even sorted out their downtime issues and it's been really reliable for normal usage.
I don't get this claim that it's somehow a meme email or something. It works perfectly fine.
>but it's ran by one guy and could shut down any day!
And gmail is not ran by one guy but they can shut down your account completely at random any day. There's even regular stories where even if you don't get randomly "suspended" (i.e. permabanned) for wrongthink, gmail can just lock you out because of their ultra-retarded login policies, and if something goes wrong you're playing russian roulette on whether you can satisfy the system to let you into your account.
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>>103169907
The real trurth is you should be downloading your emails offline and saving them, that way you can just ditch frozen emails.
>ultra-retarded login policies
This happened to me. Gmail got mad I wouldn't give them a phone number and just locked me out for not answering a single security quesiton in <10 minutes. recovery emails from other emails help a lot but still.
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>>103167215
Sounds like a really good idea.
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>>103169945
>downloading your emails offline and saving them
I am - thunderbird does this by default, even - but usually the issue with switching emails is having to update every single service that you had signed up for using that email. It's just a gigantic hassle, both doing it (and calming down every service that gets nervous when you're changing the email and starts demanding esoteric verification) and also making sure you haven't forgotten anything important.

>This happened to me. Gmail got mad I wouldn't give them a phone number
Classic, it's done this for me as well and I didn't even get any option to recover without a phone number. I enter my email and password correctly, but nope, I can't login without "extra verification". Though it apparently lets me enter a phone number for the verification - funny that, considering I never had a phone registered with the account, so I've no idea what they could possibly be verifying...

But anyway, that's still a schizo argument; I have, however, heard of cases (can't remember specific examples now) where even normies, WITH a phone number, lost their google accounts.
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>>103168232
>>103168585
>>103168610

The old canary stopped being updated a long time ago (few years ago?). I don't remember exactly what it said but something about not having been ordered to hand over any individual user's data, I think.
Today's message seems more about broad stuff that targets the entire userbase. The old canary pretty much proves (((they))) went after at least one individual user unless Vincent just got lazy about updating it or was unable to update it for whatever reason. But given >>103168585 says through Sept 2024 that suggests maybe it was just Vincent not updating the old one as often as he should have
>>103169487
Maybe information on court orders or whatever that Vince has received and is not supposed to talk about.
Also since registration AND PW CHANGE is offline maybe (((they))) are doing some fuckery of compromising new accounts or demanding Vincent hand over newly created passwords or something, but that wouldn't make much sense. Fuck if I know
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>>103169658
>For all I know it's a fucking ARG and vincent's just being a weird faggot doing this for advertisement/attention or something.
I just woke up and my brain immediately went to this, but reading the other replies it probably is just a gag order.
Has anyone tried decrypting the luks files with the new crypto addresses?
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>>103169863
Working right now, go get your shit changed.
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>>103167496
I got something to hide and am fearless. What now, LE-fag?
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>>103168713
Let me guess, ads aren't memes to you? Gmail, an ad company, is legit, right? kys clown, enjoy your coke carhartt nike uefa
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>>103169481
I remember when he did. Strange, that he's not showing himself now.
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>>103170123
not working again
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>>103170123
>>103170572
Nevermind it's working now. Thank fucking god.

All that's left to change is a dozen of spare porn and alt accounts but I can live without those. Why isn't this thread more active though? I thought cock.li was bigger?
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Announced the torrent on some other trackers as well
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I think I freaked out a bit there. This is nothing to be worried about, and I want to donate thoughever I am a techlet and I don't know how to make anonymous transactions (bitcoin is not anonymous and the exchanges i have acces to don't support monero). But I promise, I FUCKING PROMISE in front of this bunch of anonymous bastards, that I will donate what I can before the year ends.

ps fuck gmx for asking for phone too
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>>103168838
>>103170545
Sorry fags, but you're just asking for trouble. Email is an insecure joke, and you might as well just use google, m$oft, or whatever.
>muh ads
You do use imap, right? And adblock?
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>>103170654
You are contradicting yourself.
>emails don't matter! Nobody cares!
>The US LE needs access to emails! It is very important, this matters a lot!
It would be funny if you weren't so persistent with your spineless lieing.

I'm not asking for trouble, I'm asking for the USA to fuck the fuck off.
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It's not my problem who is shooting your presidents. GTFO out of my data.
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>>103170621
Use Monero.com to swap to Monero
Pretty sure they're trustworthy, but maybe split it in two
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Fuck guys did I lose my email? If I had Thunderbird on my old windows can I recover those at least?
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>>103169907
>it's been really reliable for normal usage.
as someone that actually regularly uses it you're lying, it's been having issues all year with emails coming in hours sometimes days later
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>>103170823
>GTFO out
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>>103169863
Yes can't use cockli diirecly only through simplelogin
>>103169945
If I just log in on Thunderbird is that enough to download everything locally?

Guys should I just change to proton or tuta? Im not a fan of some of their restrictions and such. Like when they go down I won't be able to export as they charge for that, fuck I hate it all so much.
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>>103167023
People dont use explicit language on car license plates, so it's time to stop doing this with email addresses
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>>103171119
>People dont use explicit language on car license plates
lol, lmao even
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>>103171119
>He hasn't seen the CUNT plates
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>>103170823
it's not yours if it's in the cloud, sweatie
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>>103170823
The feds are shooting the presidents
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they say they want to work full time for cock li
the question is
did they get fired or burned out
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scale it down
charge or charge more for the most time consuming services
offer premium services for heavy users
ban troublemakers
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>>103171119
>>103171195
>hasn't seen the CUM truck
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>>103169540
I used to have a nice "nigge.rs" email that I genuinely enjoyed
Until the domain name evaporated or whatever
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>>103169540
They WHAT
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>>103167798
kek I just got a debit card with the cock.li mail registered
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>>103169705
Tacit my ass
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>>103169907
JUST USE PROTON MAIL YOU DUMB FUCK
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>>103171449
my nigge.rs email still works fine
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damn... Vincent's life is in danger.
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So should I donate or will the money land straight in the German glowies' wallet?
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>>103171697
>in the German glowies' wallet?

aren't the servers being hosted in Romania and Moldova (lmao) ?
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>>103171708
I just have a feeling it's the Germans going all out before the Greens (CIA assets) lose their government positions. Maybe someone spread """hate speech and misinformation""" through an email.
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>>103171721
Who are the greens
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>>103169592
>My best guess is: they got a gag order; perhaps they were even left with control of their hardware specifically to continue operating to avoid tipping anyone off, as part of the gag order. And they're under active investigation or something, but haven't been coerced into handing over any major data yet. But the situation is rapidly evolving and they expect they might be, hence the daily updating canary.
i suspect that may be the case.

>>103169682
>Now, an existential threat faces the site
glowies.
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>>103171721
it's not the germans. the servers are located in romania, moldova and serbia. Germany has no authority there.
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>>103167215
How do I get there? I can't get anywhere but the warning page
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>>103171818

webmail is at https://mail.cock.li
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You're meant to use https://gock.cafe/ now
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>>103167023
So... what's the alternative...
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>>103172194
gmail
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>>103170973
I really do use it daily, like four different accounts for different purposes, and I did just have an issue like this a couple of weeks ago - for the first time in absolute ages, to the point I can't remember the last time I wasn't receiving emails.
The main issue I had with cock.li is some providers just blackholing all emails from it, not even giving their users an option to un-mark it as spam or allowing things from the user's explicit contact list, no, just blackholing. But that's not a cock.li issue, that's an issue of those providers just unilaterally censoring email.
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>>103171590
>can't use imap because "muh encryption"
99.99% of emails I send not only don't need encryption, but won't have it even if I wanted it because the recipient isn't using proton so it has to be cleartext anyway. But nooo, proton doesn't allow imap access because fuck you go choke and die, you HAVE to install their proprietary malware client if you want local mail.

>account gets deleted after inactivity
Also makes it DOA, I'm not always going to use every account constantly, that doesn't mean I won't want to go back and log in to one that I used a couple years ago. And I have better things to do than manually logging in to every account yearly or whatever just to keep them alive.
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>>103172340
>you HAVE to install their proprietary malware client if you want local mail
worse than that, it's paid only
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>>103172357
Even better, nice.
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Thanks to whoever made this thread, I just switched my important accounts to a protonmail address.
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>>103172194
https://tuta.com/secure-email
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>>103172428
I have my bank and stuff on gmail still.
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>>103172194
girlcock cafe
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posteo cost one euro per month. it is well known for its security and reliability. they only comply with the German authorities if the request is 100% legit: https://posteo.de/en/site/transparency_report

if you aren't a terrorist, no one will bother you for your mails.
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>>103172474
I didnt ask
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>>103172559
so what do i use if im a terrorist?
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>>103172573
not email.
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>>103172559
no anonymous payment option, owners are greentards who refuse to accept bitcoin/monero
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when did it get changed? i don't see this in the op screenshot
>For nearly 11 years, cock.li has remained one of the only public e-mail providers to allow registration as anonymously as a library card. The fact that it's still possible to get an e-mail address as easy as 20 years ago is a fact widely hated by international governments; at least the parts of those governments which have dedicated countless resources to target our service, our team, our family, and our friends with illegal surveillance, bad-jacketing, organized disinformation, and much worse.
>A combination of these illegal tactics have become so serious that the site is now in grave danger.
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Imagine not being able to post hashes on the technology board, modern 4cuck
COCKCON 2020: 4E56FB4CE6D1886329074B90606B3FEC8C9C7939
ins10: 21D9275F38194B1D02C1AD4B03117E9E4D31B1EB
ins11: 89A99771A617AA8BBE1D419979CC4607640E85D8
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>>103172727
Didn't 4chan ban PGP keys recently
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>>103172700
they accept cash by mail.
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>>103172348
>give a shit and enact real change
and how do you think you'd do that even if you had the motivation? you cannot.
the world has grown too large and too interconnected, to a scale far beyond an average person's grasp.
if you want to change things, you need to be either a part of something smaller and more cohesive, or get lucky to be born (or stumble upon an opportunity to be) at the top.
forget it and redirect your attention.
>voting
was a myth the whole time.
>education
was worthless the whole time. *you* had to learn what you needed to learn. education is networking.
>dating, entertainment, career, self-improvement
these are actually just (you) issues. mostly.
you can date whoever you want if you really did want to. though modern "dating" was never conducive to establishing real, solid connections and families. that's been fucked for a long time already.
new entertainment sucks? go consume the old then. you won't run out.
"self-improvement" was always a meaningless buzzword to make midwits feel better about wasting time on worthless things. like careers. a job is just a tool.
>money
yeah, that's fucked to a beyond hopeless degree.
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>>103172736
Multiple SHA256 get tagged as spam
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>>103172710
Huh, they rewrote the text. Like most of it, added more details to explain (or "explain") what's going on.
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this is just meant to be a board about computers and shit. Why is there always so much politics and drama.
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>>103172905
2016
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>>103171743
Green party
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>>103172559
https://posteo.de/en/site/contact

>abusive use (e.g. phishing, spam or hate speech)
lmao @ people who pay for this shit
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>>103167023
>open /g/ by mistake
>immediately see this thread
What the hell man.
I don't have imporatant stuff on cock.li but there are a few nice accounts tied to it.
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>literally 80% of my accounts are tied to cock.li
I'm going to fucking kill myself who the fuck am I supposed to migrate 10+ years of accounts to somewhere else one by one
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>>103169216
>Feds have far bigger fish to catch.
bro really? Technically in the first 6 months of leeching they probably stole millions of dollars in API keys from unis/big companies
now imagine the 6 gorillions they've technically stolen over a year later, if there's a chance this has something to do with that, it's a reasonable chance.
kek its a funny thought though, a bunch of brainrotted coomers causing this much of a stink and making life a lot more inconvenient for people unrelated to LLM's.
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>>103173160
>he doesn't have his own mail server
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>>103173180
https://cfenollosa.com/blog/after-self-hosting-my-email-for-twenty-three-years-i-have-thrown-in-the-towel-the-oligopoly-has-won.html
that's not any better
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>>103173173
Jew alone has stolen over 2 million
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>>103172710
>when did it get changed?
sometime in the last 24 hours

>>103172921
>>103172905
hello newfags. kill yourself, thanks.
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looks like I'll have to move my porn mail accounts to something else
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>>103173180
Yeah, good luck being able to use your e-mail for anything other than receiving e-mail. Any big email provider is just going to send anything from your server straight to spam
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>>103173306
works fine for me
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Cock.li has never been private or anonymous nor did they ever claim to be. In fact, the landing page specifically contained a warning to users to not expect privacy and something along the lines of "We don't read your emails but we can if we want to, and you only have our word for it, so proceed with the assumption that your email is not private."
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>>103173415
that's a lie they never read a single email not even once
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>>103173475
I'm not accusing them of reading your email, just that they could, as they themselves have said, and that treating any email service as private (including this one) is foolish.
Pic related.
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>>103173415
What does that have to do with your screenshot?
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>>103173415
That's just how emails work.
You can't encrypt the mails in transfer. Only for storage. Even Protonmail is very clear about that.

What he meant with the wording, was that no email service will be secure, and if the service gets taken over by LEA, all incoming/outgoing mail will be cleartext.

That being said, I trust someone like VC way more than any other faggot on the internet, simply because of transparency. You can't tell me he haven't been as transparent as humanly possible, over the 11 years he's been doing this.
Why, I don't know. But I suspect he's extremely autistic.
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So, /g/. Donate or not donate?
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>>103173415
that's why we use gpg in the first place retard
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>>103173678
Yes I know, that's exactly what I said in my first post. I wasn't saying that cock.li is an outlier, just that they're not inherently any more private/anonymous than any other email provider.

>>103173702
Entirely useless unless you're emailing people that also use PGP, which is to say no one.
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>>103173180
>ridiculously hard to set up
>ugly mail clients
>all emails go into the spam
>basically no features
yeah amazing idea thanks
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>>103172559
German (christian) requests are barely legit. Wearing a hoodie makes you suspect to them. They're retards.
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>>103173687
only if vincent posts his cute sad eyes like that wikipedia guy
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>>103173763
none of that is true though
you fell for FUD
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue-1JoJQaEg
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>>103174031
Are you a gagball machine?
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>>103173687
I still think it would be safer to wait a few days to see what the daily canary says.
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Mongos from 040 germany
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPCwokgvbCo
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>>103173160
same ive got everything there was so nice now I'll just have to be a pleb with proton or tuta where I can't pull out from with Thunderbird easily wheb they go down as they charge for that, man why does everything have to suck now..
>>103173678
He's based af but regardless of what this is I can't have my steam and everything else on this after this
>>103173713
It is because I highly doubt he's training AI and selling to advertisers like big tech mail
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>>103173687
If the situation looks less funky around Christmas I will give them some coin.
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>>103174134
ah fuck I meant to post this on /v/, and now that I've noticed it's too late to delete
I am a fucking retard
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>>103174537
As a way to repent, now you must share the context for your post.
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>>103174559
This thread >>>/v/694470563
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>>103174281
>He's based af but regardless of what this is I can't have my steam and everything else on this after this
The reason why the site is imploding on itself now IS because he's so utterly based.
It says right there in the canary.
>Cock.li will shut down before becoming complicit in crimes against its own userbase by duress of any government or organization.

I'm noping the fuck out of there as well now, because clearly the project is compromised, and will end up like Lavabit any minute now.
But the fact that he's giving us a good warning, and actually allowing people to safely migrate, just goes to prove that our trust in him came to fruition.
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>>103172181
>You're meant to use https://gock.cafe/ now
What exactly is this site? A cock.li alternative?
It's down now, so I don't know if you're just trolling, or actually giving out a viable alternative.
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Weird, yesterday their website and mail service went down for 1-2 hours. I noticed cause i was just implementing my mail accounts into thunderbird and i couldnt connect to the mail server. One day later this mail gets sent to everyone begging for money? Weird
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>>103174812
Read this entire thread. The site is 100% compromised.
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>>103174812
>Weird, yesterday their website and mail service went down for 1-2 hours
I've been getting notifications from fairemail about not being able to connect to the server pretty much every day for at least a month now
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>>103174812
The updated website says that the mail server is being bottlenecked by the mass notification email. I kind of suspected this earlier so it's not hard at all to believe. It's got 1.4 million accounts and isn't running some big tech datacenter as its server.
In fact, I only got the notification email on some of my accounts at first. Then I got a second batch later. And I've got some accounts that still haven't gotten it. It seems to be going out in batches, and probably slows down normal mail usage when it does.

That or it's just a convenient excuse to explain away deeper operational outages, but not everything has to be a conspiracy. If the feds were messing with the service, I don't think he'd have a reason to lie and try to cover it up.
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>>103174902
get eated idiot
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things are happening as we speak
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o7 and thanks for everything.
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>>103174902
looks fine to me
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So what is everyone switching to?
Any good options that can use mail clients for free or only Proton and Tuta are viable still?
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>>103169264
>The contempt of court was caused by Levison providing the keys printed in a tiny (4 point) font, which was deemed "largely illegible" by an FBI motion, which went on to complain that "To make use of these keys, the FBI would have to manually input all 2560 characters, and one incorrect keystroke in this laborious process would render the FBI collection system incapable of collecting decrypted data."
Holy based malicious compliance.
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Isn't this a few days late for a Halloween bit
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>>103167023
It's over. Hopefully you didn't rely on cock.li for anything important. At least, I'm glad that he is doing this instead of silently bending over for the feds. If he's found dead in the next few days, we'll know what happened. I wonder what's in the encrypted disk images.
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So did people get a notification email? Maybe account creation date has something to do with who got one and who not. Maybe it's just janky.

>>103175135
disroot just werks
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>>103175327
I got the notification email in a random burner I made 2 months ago. But somehow the account I created 5 years ago got nothing.
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>>103175373
can you send what it looks like?
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>>103175327
Nothing yet.
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>>103175327
I got no emails from cockli and isnt disroot ran by communists and apparently its not even encrypted at rest? I dont wanna be banned for ideological reasons, i think ill have to settle for proton if no one knows of a good cockli successor
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>>103175273
>I wonder what's in the encrypted disk images
they are not that big,maybe its some classifed shit?
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>>103175388
Wait, I misread. I thought you were talking about the email they sent yesterday.
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>>103175449
i am. i havent gotten it yet. can you send what it looks like?
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>>103174894
>If the feds were messing with the service, I don't think he'd have a reason to lie and try to cover it up.
Saying it is illegal and will get you fucked big time, check Lavabit case. Same thing with truecrypt back then when they got gagged, the dev said "use bitlcoker as an alternative" to alert people, because he couldn't directly say "the feds are here"
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>>103175410
proton with your own domain at first until you set up your own server
here is guide you should read
https://workaround.org/ispmail-bookworm/
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>>103175327
I've gotten two batches of emails on different accounts, and some accounts don't have one yet either. I think he's just doing it randomly by batches (and there's a LOT of accounts to get through).
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>>103175495
Firstly, he's already acting SUPER suspicious, sure there may be plausible deniability but even shit like including a completely different warrant canary and stressing it'll be updated daily alone would make feds really mad. They really don't like warrant canaries.
And secondly, you don't have to say anything at all about fed-caused service outages. Goodness knows cockli has rarely ever said anything about outages in general. This is unless the feds are literally breathing down his neck and holding him hostage and thus forced him to try to cover it up, but again, if so, he wouldn't have sent SUCH a suspicious message in the first place.
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>>103175558
Im not gonna run my own, too much trouble also cant pay for proton (yeah yeah judge me, maybe one day they'll take some prepaid shit or i turn into a normalfag by then but not until then)
No thunderbird and limited folders suck so hard.
Was Tuta really busted as a honeypot a while back or was some glowie just trying to throw it under the bus for no reason, i remember that being discussed here a few months ago.
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>>103175637
Tuta was subpoenaed by the German police to make unencrypted copies of the email going to ans being sent from certain users. Tuta can only do E2EE between Tuta users, they dont support PGP
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What's the encrypted file?
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>>103175747
lmao, PGP does not care about your mail provider
don't rely on some third party to do your encryption for you nigger
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>>103175765
lots of cute touhous
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>>103167023
Why are the cock li administrators directing people to download cp?
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Aren't there THOUSANDS of alternatives to this?
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>>103175747
If you wanna be really schizo about it whats stopping Proton from doing the same? I am too which is why i actually used cock.li but now that its fallen i gotta settle for something else. As long as its I guess somewhat encrypted and not used for AI training or sold to advertisers theres no right big corporation that will break laws for you, I want something that works reasonably well and is not data mining, im not using email for actual communication only accounts and newsletters, im not really concerned about sending, most sensitive stuff i got is like shipping notifications and stuff that i dont want hackers or advertising companies to have.
I'd use Proton but no IMAP and capping the fucking web folders of all things (im sure theyd save much more money by offering IMAP/POP3 instead of online storafge for free users and get more normies to upgrade) just doesnt do it for me, i like owning my data, i really feel like them not having that goes against that concept it really annoys me.
Tuta doing that is basically the same tier as Proton giving out the recovery icloud of that guy no?
Im asking if theres anything past that, like the claims from that glowie a few months back that it is a literal honeypot, was that bs or not, as far as ik they should be about the same level of privacy/security but im asking if anything changed since, ive been using cockli for years and my knowledge may be outdated, thats the last time i done research about tuta and proton.

>>103175842
List them then

Also Verification not required. for third time in a row, that's weird..
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>>103175842
Name 5
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Opinions on, not a home mail server, but renting a mail hosting service? They go for like $2-3/month, and plenty of reputable hosting providers (Hetzner, OVH, DigitalOcean) have offerings. So do many other companies, such as namecheap or no-name VPS providers, but they're literally all <$5 for basic offerings and I'd rather rent from e.g. Hetzner at that point.

Considering they're mostly in the business of selling servers, do you think they'd still scrape your email for selling to advertisers or whatever? You do have to dox your payment detail, but you gain independence from big tech, no weird feature-gating like proton and tuta do, and in my experience so far usually no particular issues with being spam blackholed by big providers.
They DO probably make things open for glowies but you shouldn't be doing spicy things over cleartext email anyway.

Am I mistaken in thinking that in the spectrum of "will read your every email" (as e.g. gmail does by default) vs. "won't ever care" (as vincent was, presumably), a datacenter provider will probably be on the latter side?
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what's wrong with disroot?
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>>103176102
ran by communists who delete your account for ideological reasons
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>>103176146
1) source?
2) what to use then? (hard mode: no selfhosting)
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>>103176021
server at home, smtp and such routed through hetzner
that's my plan at least
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>>103172428
You're welcome.
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>>103172710
My library requires identifying info.
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>>103176208
If you're routing it through hetzner then what are you gaining anyway? Might as well just have single-click DMARC and SPF pre-configured for you with guarantee of no spam blackholing at that point.
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>>103176306
for SMTPS mail i get confidentiality the TLS connections are only terminated on my own server
for non-TLS mail there is no difference, someone will see it anyways
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>>103173160
Unless you're completely retarded, you haven't tied any actually important accounts to a retarded meme email service with cock in the name.
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>>103176522
I used it as my primary email for 99.99% of stuff.
Depends what you consider important, like thousands of dollars of digital content purchases.
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>>103176546
Then you indeed are completely retarded, congratulations
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>>103176585
I'm not too concerned what people who shill for apple products on here, use play services phones and have gmail accounts think of me, reddit would be a better fit for you.
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>>103176604
Based.

There's no other provider who is 1. Free 2. Has IMAP 3. Doesnt need phone number 4. Not run by Antifa
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>>103176615
Apparently there are some free Proton bridges on github, wonder if that would risk a ban.
Is there any official way to take emails out of proton or tuta for free in an open format?
I dont get how these big privacy companies can get away with locking you out of your own data when not even big tech does that, its my single biggest criticism, at least tuta apparently has a desktop client, not sure if its local data could be decrypted into an open format.
Proton also limits to 3 web folder, thats literally unusable, id rather them only offer pop3 for free users and no web storage than these limits, im gonna try out tuta.
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Someone redpill me.
Can I still use my active email account? Do I need to do something? Suddenly lost connection with thunderbird and is asking me for a new password, I guess the servers are running(?)

What is this stuff about the encrypted files?

Also, what is the gpg for?
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>>103176675
servers are pretty unstable, sign into thunderbird as soon as possible, keep trying until it lets you in, I was up til 9AM yesterday/today bc i saw this thread right before going to sleep and i sit there to wait for it to download thousands of email
Just signing into thunderbird will download everything fully to my machine right?
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>>103176604
>let me just tie my payment information and real world name (as per requirements for purchases) to a COCK DOT LEEE email
Actual retard.
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>>103176675
>What is this stuff about the encrypted files?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_man%27s_switch#Blackmail
Well, possibly. Nobody knows yet.

>Also, what is the gpg for?
For verifying that the message is legit from Vincent. (Assuming that nobody has stolen his key.) Every new cock.li account gets a welcome email containing Vincent's key's fingerprint, so you can check for yourself that it matches.
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>>103176733
I use prepaid gift cards bought with cash from retail and dont fill out billing info, I do not use a credit card or paypal tier shit, keep coping redditard iFaggot.
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>legal expenses
which is zero ???
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>>103176604
I do neither of those, but then i also do not use a meme email provider for anything serious
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>>103176843
Interesting how the feds never go after the communist ones isn't it ?
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>>103170823
>get the fuck out out
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>>103176869
they could just not use it and ignore its existence but they always have to be a faggot about it
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>>103175388
oh its just a copy-paste of the index.txt
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>>103176913
>they could just not use it and ignore its existence
Nah they are physically incapable of not creating issues where none existed in the first place.
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>>103173415
I don't expect it to be private. I just want an email that doesn't require my fucking phone number
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>>103176843
these fediverses are full of /g/ reposts to tout about
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>>103176913
these people are control freaks. It's that simple really
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>proton
doesn't let you use non-webmail clients; deletes accounts for inactivity
>disroot
may delete your account for "bigotry"
>posteo
costs $$$ and doesn't accept XMR; hosted in Germany

now what?
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so is it actually fucking over? I should start migrating to gmail?
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>>103177058
Now you can learn to host your own :)
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>>103177058
I cant find a good answer to wether its possible to export all emails in an open format from proton or tuta or youre locked into their ecosystem forever. This is the biggest thing for me, my problem with webmail only is that i cant store my email locally.
Also proton only has 3 folders thats unusable, im trying tuta but it has 0 IMAP even if you pay.
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>>103177058
What about Murena?
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>>103167023
now how do I keep contact with my family
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So what is actually going on?
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>>103178088
The site is more than likely compromised. Migrate.
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>>103176021
Hetzner might. Hetzner is not really known for being a customer friendly provider. One email claiming you're a filesharer and you're offline with them - and they comply with LE.
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>>103178120
One email in your inbox, or from someone complaining?
I've spent a couple years mining crypto with all CPU cores before on my dedicated server and they did nothing, so I know they don't seem to really care much to monitor what their small customers are doing, at least on servers. Maybe email is easier to monitor.
Guess I could try OVH instead, do the frogs have any particular reputation?
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>>103178100
to what? everything sucks
Cant tuta has every IP blocked cant register
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>>103177362
>Murena
haven't heard about it before
>down since Oct 6
lol cockli looks more reliable
>made by /e/fags
doesn't seem to be secure
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I remember there was another page with meme domains but I don't remember the name right now
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>>103175327
I got 3 on a national.shitposting.agency account, and none on my older cock.email account, now that I look closer though I have multiple dupe emails on that n.s.a account so maybe it's a thunderbird bug.
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I used to have the nigge.rs and nuke.africa domains but they are all taken down. I think they also hosted lolicon.rocks before but it's gone from the list
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I have some accounts linked to my cockmail address that I want to pull away before it disappears forever, but some stupid websites require a confirmation at the old email address before allowing you to leave it.
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>>103178324
From someone complaining. Maybe things changed? I wouldn't test it.
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>>103178498
Wait what the fuck, you're right, it's not on the list
All my nigge.rs emails work but I guess they're rare legacy accounts now?
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>>103178525
No, everything works. Fairly quick, even. But the cock.li mailing list is slow, suspiciously slow...
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>>103178623
no mail no ever now
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With a name like that it's clearly not taken seriously, probably run by wokies or children. I predict there is blue hair involved. Never rely on meme sites. Just pull your emails down with tbird and change the dns of your custom email domains to a professionally run company.
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>>103178887
cock.li is probably older than you are at this point
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>>103178896
I'm older than cell phones, CD's, DVD's and Star Wars.
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>>103178887
Tell me you have no idea what cock.li is, without telling me you have no idea what cock.li is.
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>>103178943
A silly meme mail site, probably meant to attract young bi-curious boys.
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>>103178958
You got the first part right at least. Perhaps it'll help if I say that the sysop was a regular here on /g/.
Maybe you're confusing it with disroot.org. Or maybe you're just trolling.
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>>103178958
>Perhaps it'll help if I say that the sysop was a regular here on /g/.
Guess he got the second part right as well.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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>>103179014
stand up you lazy fuck

8^)
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>>103178863
still no mail.
aaaa
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>>103179087
Still fake news, it's still working.
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>>103179100
I've been trying to request a confirmation from muh ai website and it's not appearing.
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>cock.li has a fancy message
>cockbox.org is just
hello i am an error page


i ate your request
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>>103179108
Hmm, give it some time then. If nothing helps, email support@muhaiwebsite.com asking if they have asinine whitelists like 4chan does
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>>103179129
Thanks for the advice buddy.
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>>103179032
Careful, that gets you cancelled by Cloudflare
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>>103179147
>The list is empty
So am I
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>>103172194
>alternative
sdf.org
Give them a one-time fee of $1 to validate yourself.
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>>103179158
I'm already cancelled since a few years m8
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>>103175747
whyd they change the name from tutanota to tuta? is it still the same owners?
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>>103179187
What did you do?
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>>103179182
>504 on login
>Session expired
Darkness
Imprisoning me
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>>103179204
non-christian under CDU
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>>103179290
read: nothing, i just don't believe in your god/allah. allah forbids alcohol, god forbids weed.
major issue in a muslim/christian germany
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The world feels extra oppressive lately.
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>>103179290
>>103179298
Most of the Germans I've met are atheists, and some of them are sysadmins of sites that use Cloudflare.
Are you sure you're taking your meds?
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>>103177058
>may delete your account for "bigotry"
What kind of "bigotry" are we talking about? Can't name your account faggotniggertroon? Can't use your email for registering to any controversial site? Or is it more of a they will scan the contents of every single email you send/receive and will ban you over it kind of thing?
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>>103179348
They're not. They celebrate Xmas right now already in the supermarkets. I also take acid and shit, kid. Medicine for the mind doesn't work, kid, don't fall for their lies. Educate yourself on erowid
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>>103179379
That's the secret you're not supposed to find out. Powertrippers will powertrip.
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someone triggered the religion debatebot again
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>>103179381
>They celebrate Xmas right now already in the supermarkets.
Consumerism isn't Christianity. It's all the sin without the guilt.
>I also take acid and shit, kid.
Clearly not enough or you wouldn't be so uptight.

>>103179390
It was me. They paid extra because the thread was nearing the bump limit.
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>>103179404
>uptight
>me
move along and remember erowid. you'll fail at life otherwise
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>>103179421
>he's still preoccupied with failure
Double your dose.
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>>103179436
Congratulations, you won this internet argument, ki(n)d sir!
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I hope cock.li can survive whatever they're up against.
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>>103179014
>Internet Computer Protocol
lmao

as if retard "i'm an investor" grindsetters are still throwing money at idiotic crap like this


literally just buzzwords on a web page
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>>103179446
Good game. Uploading the screencap to Reddit as we speak. I can't wait to spend that sweet karma.
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100% fully migrated & backed up bros, where you at?
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>>103179856
Still in denial phase because I don't have anywhere to migrate to
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>>103179874
I just migrated everything to my yahoo for now using the built-in disposable mailbox feature to make a more anonymous handle. Might check out sdf.org or just make another disroot account if cockmail does end up getting canned.
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>>103179924
I can probably migrate later anyway, very few if any services require you to verify your old email to change it, right? Most have a "don't have access to that email anymore" option
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You niggaz are retarded, literally pick any free mail provider in your country.tld and create using fake data. It is insecure by design anyway.
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>>103179936
I had to verify using an email sent to my cockmail address for ~2 or 3 of my accounts, but I didn't attempt going down that "don't have access" rabbit hole. I wouldn't wait though, they'll probably want a phone number after that or other personal info that I'm not giving those kikes.
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>>103179856
I've made so many accounts using a cock.li email address. 100% migration isn't even possible for me, because many systems don't support changing an email address.
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>>103179924
I couldn't make a tuta (all ips banned for some reason) do i just go back to yahoo?
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>>103179924
>sdf
This explains how to use their systems better than their main site.
https://wiki.sdf.org/doku.php?id=start
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>>103180198
Anyone old enough to remember Macross?
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>>103179856
I picked an islamic country, USA mustn't be welcome.
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>>103180237
kinda smart, actually.
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>>103180290
You can also pick a chink one. Or maybe japanese. Just not one from the allies of the US. (Japs are as much allies to US as germans are allies to the USA. We're """allies""" because there's a gun pointed at our heads 24/7, demanding that we comply).

Unless of course you're exactly there, then do the opposite.
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>>103180388
You mentioned every US hostile country, apart from Russia, which surely must be the obvious one.
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>>103180398
Oh yes, of course. I tried mail.ru but they insisted on a telephone number again
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>>103180388
What's even available in Japan these days? I can only think of yahoo.co.jp and the first thing they asked for was a phone number.
https://account.edit.yahoo.co.jp/signup?done=https%3A%2F%2Fmail.yahoo.co.jp%2F&src=ym&req_attr=ym
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>>103180539
You could ask on 2ch.
PS: After I said I use an islamic country now, I had to wait 15 minutes again to post, with uncleared cookies.
What's this about?
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Seriously nothing good for free with IMAP? What's is everyone switching to?
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Dont die
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>>103180877
>What's is everyone switching to?
Violence? Nerds can become angry as well.
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>>103181089
Anon, we passed the bump limit. The thread will die regardless of what we do.
...unless someone bakes a new thread.
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>>103180877
Disroot is fine. Been using both cockmail and disroot for years now and it's hard to tell any difference between them.
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>>103181104
Its different on every board or I'm retarded oh well
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I will make inbound only mailing list for shitposting lulz no I'm not too lazy lel
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then again why use a mailing list at all when you can use 4chan clone ? bunch of you were using web mail anyway.
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>>103181519
ur too lazy
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>>103181581
no one will use it even if i make it



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