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>Get a new GPU
>It comes with a booklet like this
I know I'm a manchild but this isn't helping. Also I'm 99% sure red dragons are evil and shouldn't be trusted.

>get 4070 super
>get 9800x3d
>WoW still barely tops 120 fps in the middle of Dornogal at 1440p
How is this acceptable?

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>9800x3ds are burning up
Let’s hope you fanboys have the same energy for amd

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Old Radeon
New Radeon

>>103176449
>Also I'm 99% sure red dragons are evil and shouldn't be trusted.
based and correct but you did buy msi after all

>>103176462
I will burn you're mum's gyatt after gooning all over it

Best CPU to go with an RTX 3060 12GB?

>>103176496
how did you manage to override your mommy's ipad parental permissions to get here kiddo?

>>103176496
what the skibi ohio is this post bruh

Any full tower cases that can support 5.25" bays, have good dampening for stuff like HDD vibration, and can fit 360mm rads and 140mm fans easy?

The RG4T I have is Newey-tier in terms of packaging, I love it for the feature value but I hate it because of the unremovable PSU shroud making it a dust collector and the break off expansion slots don't help.

>>103176462
at least now i'm glad i bought a 7800x3d for 400 instead

What's a good sale price for a 5700X3D in europe? Just wondering at what point it's worth to pull the trigger.
Also, what is its power draw like for general gaming? PCpartpicker seems to use 142W, which would put me at around 490W for the entire system. I currently have a seasonix prime ultra platinum psu, but it's only 550W and it's already like 4 years old at this point (not sure if that matters). Would that be too high for my current PSU, or is it fine? I'm assuming PCpartpicker's estimate is under a completely full load which I'm not liable to be running a lot?
Lastly, I currently have 2x8gb 3200C16D. Is it allright to try and cheap out and add another 2x8gb 3200C16D, or is that a bad idea and should I go for some flavour of 2x16gb kit instead?

>>103176462
Just don't buy MSI. It's that simple.

>>103176460
Why did you accept a 4070 Super? You should have known it's limits before you bought it.

>>103176526
> RTX 3060 12GB?
5700X3D on AM4 mobo with 32GB DDR4. Good enough for gaymin in 1080p.

what do you do when you upgrade from d4 to d5 when you have 128gb of d4

>>103176754
Throw it in the trash.

>>103176727
>known it's limits
?

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>>103176449
i'm sorry, guys...

>>103176573
Do you have 900 dollars?

>>103176713
> good sale price for a 5700X3D in europe?
€175

> what is its power draw like for general gaming?
> PCpartpicker seems to use 142W
The TDP is 105W. It can't be any more than this. In games it's usually way less!

> psu, but it's only 550W. is it fine?
Depends on the GPU! What is it's TDP?

> it's already like 4 years old
Doesn't matter. ultra platinum psu is qt that can deliver even more than rated 550W.

> I currently have 2x8gb 3200C16D
DDR4 is so cheap that I wouldn't recommend to go 4x8GB. Get 2x16!

>>103176748
>gaymin in 1080p
That's exactly what i was aiming for, thanks.

>>103176776
Yes, GPUs have limits to their potential performance.

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Alright, upgrade done and ram set correctly. AM5 boot times are kind of wack due to "memory training," but so far everything seems exactly the same. These RGB lights are kind of cool so I'm regretting not getting a windowed case.

Skittle Rainbow Barf.

>>103176816
Nigger why would a 4070 super, which is faster than a 2080 ti and 3080, be shit for an old mmo?

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Why don't AIOs have clear tubing?

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HODL on 9800X3D until investigations

>>103176861
Look at the rest of the images. This one in particular looks like user error.

>>103176847
Clear tubing like pic rel are shit at keeping the liquid from evaporating. Engineers who are smarter than you figured this out. Next question.

>>103176833
If you call sub 120fps in 1440p shit then your demands clearly exceed the capabilities of a 4070 Super, not to mention those of the 2080ti and 3080.

>>103176802
Thanks for replying senpai, I appreciate ya
>€175
Alrighty, I'll keep an eye out then. Maybe a daft question, but should I consider getting one via aliexpress, or stick to local shops only?
>The TDP is 105W. It can't be any more than this. In games it's usually way less!
Oh, that's better already. Weird that pcpartpicker puts it higher than that.
>Depends on the GPU! What is it's TDP?
I've got a 6700 XT. The edition from AMD itself (founder's edition?). Bit of a relic from the "can't find non-scalped gpu in stock anywhere" days. Google tells me the TDP should be 230W, I think?
If it helps, the rest of the system is: B450 Tomahawk, arctic freezer 34 esports, 2x8gb corsair vengeance, 3 bequiet pure wings 2 140mm fans, A crucial P3 1TB M.2 ssd and a MX500 1TB SATA ssd. I Think that should be everything.
>Doesn't matter. ultra platinum psu is qt that can deliver even more than rated 550W
Neat, that's good to hear. Only reason I got that one is because I was on sale close to me, going for the same price as most 600W gold PSU's, but it's been good to me so far.
>DDR4 is so cheap that I wouldn't recommend to go 4x8GB. Get 2x16!
Alright, gotcha. I'll ditch the idea of going with 4x8GB then.

Did new nvidia drivers/new nvidia app reduce performance for anyone else or was it just me?

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>>103176403
Have
G9 odysee
5950x
but only 400 bucks for a gpu, am i cooked?

>>103176861
obviusly if they use x870 board they're OCing it and causing the damage

>>103176958
As 50xx gpus are coming out you have people selling their old 40xx gpus, you can buy a 4070 type gpu used?

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>>103176403
Would I be retarded to buy a WD Black HDD to use in my desktop PC?
I've read lots of complaints about it being very noisy. Upon research, I've found two fixes, which were either running a program that writes a small text file every couple of seconds so the head doesn't park, or turning off the default power savings option for the drive. Has any of that worked for (You)?

>>103176449
I bought a msi 4080s and it didn't come with shit except the card and cable adaptor, not even a warranty slip

>>103176926
For a game like WoW yes

>>103176932
> 6700 XT
> TDP 230W
Don't worry, your PSU will power everything easily.

I have a 7900x already, but damn that 9800x3d looks fine as hell. Dunno if it is worth the cash, though. A 7900x used would probably sell for 250~ so I would be out over 200$ for the cpu.

>>103176465
Why the old chip got gaps

>>103176861
Nigger op didnt even say when this happened, but by looking at the mobo, it seems to have been the issue. You can see pics of the socket be cracked in a spot and have a protrusion which might have led to the cpu being placed incorrectly and some of the pins look bent and that might have caused a short.
In summary reddit op is a fucking retard.

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>>103176980
>gaming hdd

>>103176980
Buy a 1TB capacity HDD? Yes, even VERY retarded. A 20TB HDD for data hoarding would be a whole different story.

>>103176978
They are still around 600, guess i have to wait some more...

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>>103176861
wtaf
never seen shit like this in my life

>>103176958
If you can snag a secondhand 3080 (ideally 12gb or 3080Ti) or 6800XT at that price that'd be pretty capable already
otherwise with the new generation maybe we'll see 4070S / 7900XTs at that price point soon enough but I'm not feeling too hopeful

>>103177042
amdsisters....

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>>103176980
>Would I be retarded
>3.5" gaming hdd
>Would I be retarded
>3.5" gaming hdd
>Would I be retarded
>3.5" gaming hdd
>Would I be retarded
>3.5" gaming hdd
>Would I be retarded
>3.5" gaming hdd

>>103177042
>>103176861
I am so glad that one anon talked me out of getting an MSI board in the monhun thread. Holy shit.

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>>103177042
>MAG X870 TOMAHAWK WIFI

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>>103177042
what was bro doing

>>103177004
>> 6700 XT
>> TDP 230W
Is that wrong? It's the answer google spat out for me, but if it's lower that'd be good to know.
>Don't worry, your PSU will power everything easily.
Music to my ears. I was planning on keeping it simple as a little christmas present to myself, but getting a new PSU as well would have made it somewhat more than little.

>>103177042
Kek it looks like mould is growing when not enlarged

>>103176932
> should I consider getting one via aliexpress
No need. There are many shops here that sell it for ~175 (tray version oc, not boxed).
Example for Germany:
https://www.idealo.de/preisvergleich/OffersOfProduct/203712845_-ryzen-7-5700x3d-amd.html

>>103176861
>>103177042
>>103177114
what happens when you dont clear cmos after inserting a new cpu.

>>103177042
typical amd launch

>>103177124
> Is that wrong?
Nope, it's accurate:
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-6700-xt.c3695

> Board Design
> TDP: 230 W
> Suggested PSU: 550 W

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>>103177101
hello i will be continuing my crusade against msi fucking shits and nahimic

Intel or AMD?

>>103177276
>cpu
amd
>gpu
intel

>>103176861
Zozzle glad I'm get a used 78x3d and x670e cheap wait used chads win again

>>103176861
>Just bought a Taichi
ASRock bros, we stay winning.

Asus used to be so good back then

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What would be the better option for a case like pic related, where a 360mm AIO would basically take up the entire top section? I can't tell if a 360mm (represented with the additional green area) would be worse than a 240/280 (red area), because it would immediately start expelling air coming in from the frontal intake fans. Would a 240/280mm be better? I just want what's most efficient, since the cost difference is only going to be like $15-20 bucks.

>>103177309
>>103177317
Asrock is now better than Asus its wild

>>103177317
Asus were never good

That Anon who posted in the last thread about USB 4.0 using up lanes, could this be avoided by putting a USB expansion card in one of your other slots if your end goal was just to have USB-C inputs? Sure, it'd be slower and shit, but that wouldn't fuck with the lanes... right?

>>103176462
Don't increase the voltage then.

>>103177323
Yeah ASRock is the spiritual successor of Asus.

asrock is owned by asus

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Real 9800x3d review just dropped
https://youtu.be/Q-1W-VxWgsw
Let's get it

>>103177042
lol
isnt that early am5 problem

>>103177375
>asscock is owned by anus
you don't say.

>>103176795
I have 10,000 but the thing he seeks can be had used for 50-60.

>>103177021
it was one of the "universal" AGP cards

>>103177021
Before PCIE there was PCI and AGP

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Still dippin'
It's over

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>>103177107
Kek shits fucked
Msi the new asuss and assrock
X670e zen 4 chads where we at

Why is the 4070 super recommended for 1080p but not 1440p? Is it the Vram? I'm a pc pleb making a build and I thought it was good enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC9074rcOzQ
I might be full of shit but I remember hearing somewhere that ray tracing on nvidia is CPU heavy
Could the fact that they have ray tracing on be a factor in showing strong CPU scaling here?

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>>103177518
it dips because of nvidia driver overhead.
you buy amd cpu, you must pair with amd gpu.

Will Anime look better if I upgrade my rig?

>>103177586
If you buy Radeon you will have even more dips in eSports since it's unusable there along with the other problems
If this is your solution it's not a solution also another negative for ayymd

>>103177636
thanks for reminding me of the switch to Hi10p
fun times on /a/

>>103176403
I fucking hate buying a new 4k monitor so much. Pretty much all of them have white bleed in the bottom left and two out of three had dead pixels. Even the recommended Dell G2724D from the OP.

>>103177586
And will Radeon help the cpu load in assets faster is the question
Watch the video

>>103177658
>If you buy Radeon you will have even more dips in eSports
???
there are no dips with vulkan

>>103177518
He single-handedly destroyed the meme cpu that currently sells for half a fucking grand.

I built my computer and it crashes after 15 minutes of gaming then i have to turn off and on the PSU, is this a PSU problem?

>>103177531
>Msi the new asuss
implying msi has not been shit for far longer

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>appears in your path
>takes focus in your path
>does nothing

but I have an nvidia gpu

>nothing personel

>>103177636
anime pc always looks better

>>103177698
It's a user problem.

>>103177698
see what event viewer has to say

>>103177375
>>103177464
Asrock hasn't been owned by Asus for years
IDK why people repeat it still.

>XD
Back t0 reddit

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>>103177863
that what google said

>could upgrade 3700x to 5700x3d + air fan with 400$ Tim Horton funbucks after tip
>new computer with the 9800x3d would cost like 2000 grand
the 5700x3d is around 50% of the way to the 9800x3d which might be good enough for another couple years

>>103177321
pls respond

>>103177906
But how can Asrock be better than Asinus if they are owned by them?

>>103177921
My advice is stop using AIOs

>>103177923
The same way Porsche is better than regular VAGshit

>>103177939
I've never used an AIO before, so I wanted to try it with my upcoming 9800x3d build, because I figure even though a phantom spirit would do the job for stock specs, maybe I want to OC down the line, or maybe I upgrade to Zen6 since AM5 boards should support those chips.

>>103177906
If you actually look into it, they own a ~17% stake. They own the largest stake but otherwise don't have much control over the company.

Perhaps the biggest telling is Asus doesn't even use Pegatron, at least not for a lot of their PC motherboards. When they fucked up and recalled some high-end boards they came out of Lite-on.

>>103177321
Why the need for any better? It's already optimal like that. The air that is flowing through the green front part of the radiator is cooler than the air flowing trough it's middle or even rear. The effect is not wasted, it adds proportionately more to the cooling of the water than the other air that is heated by the GPU, RAM and Mobo. It would be different if there was no radiator in the top, only fans.

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What the fuck is a redriver?

>>103176403
>koorui 24e3

So am i really expected to colour correct this after buying? Can icc profiles be installed on linux or just windows?

>>103178055
they probably inject more electricity mid way to help with signal integrity

>>103178002
Thank you. Does the benefit gained by the radiator / cpu outweigh potential loss that gpu / ram / mobo might have from getting less of the frontal intake?

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>Wife wants me to build her a PC so she can play life simulators and RPGs
Ok I can do tha-
>But she wants to play it on one of those "fancy ultrawide curved monitors at the highest quality"

>>103178066
misquote >>103178039

>>103177321
>>103178002
I happen to have exactly that setup btw, except for the two bottom fans which I don't have and which are unnecessary because they don't suck any fresh air into the case (and my 4090 gets only lukewarm anyway) 3x140mm in front haul in a huge amount of fresh air.

>>103176403
Which components are safe to buy from Aliexpress? From what I've read CPU are fine, SSD are a scam.

>>103178106
>cpu, ram, case, coolers and fans (ie deepcool who isn't sold in us anymore)
yes no problem

>motherboard, gpu
depends. mostly safe. wouldn't buy a 4090 or anything like that though. cheapo gpu like rx 580 can be hit or miss

>ssd, psu
not sure about this

>>103178069
> potential loss
If there was any at all it would be rather negligible. The air that is sucked in by the upper most front fan hardly touches hot parts and certainly not the GPU. Even if there were no fans in the top. A 360 rad is the best choice. I recommend the ALF3, also because it provides a fan for the vregs.

>>103178208
Yea, liquid freezer 3 is what I'm planning. Only other one I'd consider is the Thermalright Frozen Prism, but I figure I might as well just spring the extra 25 bucks for better performance.

https://www.crn.com/news/components-peripherals/2024/amd-confirms-layoffs-2024

AYYMDEAD IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT

>>103178106
> Aliexpress
I only buy certain inexpensive spare parts that are hard to get by anywhere else for that price. I never buy parts that I would possibly want to RMA or that are rather expensive. No CPU, GPU, Mobo, RAM. I don't think it's worth the risk.

trying to figure out what motherboard to get for my 9800x3d and planning for a 5090
should I go for the ASRock 870e Nova or Taichi Lite? or something completely different?

>>103177698
How many watts are your psu? What is your gpu and cpu?

>>103176861
I swore off MSI mobos after OC'ing my FX 8350e blew the V regs. CPU was fine.

>>103178308
> 9800x3d
> 5090
Sir! Anything else but the best can't be good enough!
You deserve the MSI "Godlike", Sir!

>>103178361
why the memeing
anyways isnt that thing like $600

how can msi mobos be bad if msi gpus are good

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Imagine your top employee receive a reward from your competitor. absolute state of intel

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>>103177172
Fuckwhit inserted it wrong

>>103178426
>if msi gpus are good
I only buy Giggybytes. MSIs feel like cheap plastic, especially the entry level cards.

>>103178451
>Ambraindead

What AM5 motherboard should I get for 9950X? X870E or X870? Or some B series?

>>103178455
they actually build the best 4090s tho

>>103178379
More like $1200. But you can easily afford that.

>>103178544
whatever has a strong enough vrm and the i/o holes you want

>>103178629
no i cant lol

zoomed in cpu sockets make my skin itch

>>103178077
your best bet for cost/performance is probably a mint condition second hand 7900xtx as cheap as you can make it

Quick little question about Radeon Chill.
Is there any downside to setting the minimum and maximum framerates to the same number?

I know it's supposed to dynamically lower the framerate when input is idle or whatever, but I just want to use it as a simple framerate cap.

>>103178641
Then you can't afford to buy a 5090 either. If that's all your money you should reserve it for emergency expenditures like car repair, medical treatment etc.

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>>103177391
>>103177518
lol jufes you are so fucking embarassing
literally putting up fake results for views
hahahahahaha

>>103178814
>>103178629
actually what are your thoughts on going for a b650e? like the taichi b650e?

>>103178583
I thought asus had the most overbuilt ones with their rog strix, how is msi better

>>103176403
Why the aw3225qf over the samsung G80SD?

>dies in 3 years
oled are basically subscription based monitor

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gonna see how long it takes before this comment is deleted
what a disgusting scammer lmao

>>103178451
Can't save everyone, hope MSI denies RMA.
They'll probably cave in due to PR pressure.

>>103178851
>how is msi better
they have fuses
and moar phases

>>103178942
and aio is a subscription based cooling solution

>>103178837
> taichi b650e
I would get the X870E Nova instead: faster WiFi, more M.2 slots, unshared pcie lanes for GPU slot, USB 4. Price should be about the same, if that matters.

>>103178657
PGA doesn't have this problem

>>103179005
What the heck am I pretending there? I actually got the Nova myself, kek

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>>103176403
So, did Intel finally fix their blunder after that third microcode patch or whatever from last month? Black Friday is coming soon, eyeing a new rig. Though I'm leaning more on AMD considering what happened, unless it's now completely safe.

>>103178055
only if you don't like oversaturated colors all the time and distortions as well, like with human skin etc.

>>103178821
I knew this nigger would fake this shit

>>103177681
i saw it too and only cared about 1440p ones, basically every single panel except the ridiculously expensive one has a high return rate with people always complaining about dead pixels or bleed

>>103178995
>Asus cheaps out on electronics and only relies on a fuckhuege heatsink
Kek

>>103177636
RTX VSR 1080p to 4k, then DLDSR to 1080p again

>>103179045
even if he had tried to hide the links the benchmarks wouldn't be hard to find
he's literally just running 4800C40 (EXPO disabled) at 102 BCLK, which works out to exactly 4896 MHz

>>103178821
caught in 4k lmao

>>103178944
Did it already get deleted? I can't see it on the video comments.

>>103177658
the other way around since nvidia drivers have latency problems which manifest as low 1%

>>103179070
oh yeah it did
doesn't show up in my history
better take down the video jufes, you fucked up

Why is there zero arrow lake stock in my country
It's been almost a month sinse launch
wtf

>>103179029
13600K is fine

>>103179045
>>103179063
Intelbros... We are fucking liars....

>>103176403
>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
>Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
>Provide specific use cases.
>State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
>Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC
>
>CPU
>Gaming: 12400, 7600, 9800X3D; for existing AM4 users: 5700X3D
>Workstation: 265K, 9900X, 9950X
>
>COOLER
>AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge/Arctic Liquid Freezer III, Hyte THICC Q60
>Double towers: ID-Cooling FROZN A620 PRO SE, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2
>ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67
>
>MOTHERBOARD
>ASRock B650M-HDV/M2, B650 LiveMixer, B650 Steel Legend, cheap X870
>
>RAM
>DDR4: 2x16GB 3200CL16. Budget, 2x8GB
>DDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30
>Workstation/high end: consider 2x48GB
>
>SSD (OS drive)
>Budget: SN580
>Mid range: NM790
>Premium: Samsung 990 Pro (Windows only), SN850X
>Flagship: Sabrent Rocket 5
>
>GPU
>1080p: RTX 4070 Super, RX 7700 XT
>1440p: RTX 4070 Ti Super, RX 7900 GRE
>2160p: RTX 4090, RTX 4080 Super, RX 7900 XTX
>Workstation: RTX 4000 Series
>
>CASE (from $ to $$$)
>mATX: Montech Air 100, Lian Li A3, Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li O11 Air Mini
>ATX: Phanteks XT PRO(ULTRA), Montech AIR 903 Base/MAX, Antec C5, Lian Li Lancool 216/III
>AVOID: 'Silent' cases, fanless cases
>
>PSU
>Budget: Gold rated 500-600W PSU
>Mid range: ATX 3.0 compliant fully modular gold rated PSU @ 75% max load
>High end: Seasonic PRIME TX
>AVOID: GAMEMAX
>PSU buying guide:
>https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/ (updated Q3 2024)
>
>MONITOR
>1080p: KOORUI 24E3, MSI G2412F, MSI MAG 256F, MSI G244PF E2
>1440p: ASRock PG27QFT2A, Dell G2724D
>4K: Acer Nitro XV275K, Gigabyte M32U, Dell Alienware AW3225QF
>
>OS
>Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt
>
>CASE FANS
>Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
>High end: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)
>
>Previous: >>103171742


Too many choices. What the best 1080p gamer monitor under $200?

availability is one thing but why are european retailers gasing up the price of the 9800x3d so much

whew I almost fell for the QDOLED meme, thank god I saw people complain that they don't get bright enough for actual HDR. Almost wasted 1k

Got a 350$ mini led now and holy shit. HDR when it gets to 1300 nits for large highlights is genuinely a "oh wow" moment

why are monitor manufacturers such faggots

I want a monitor with at least:
120hz
1440p
USB hub with 2 USB-A in
1 regular DP
1 USB-C DP with 65W power delivery
around 27" max

and it should be around 400€
region: Austria

I found the Acer Nitro XV2 XV275UVymipruzx, but I can't find any videos or reviews on it - Acer gave it such a cancer name I swear

>>103178821
> paid by shintel

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>>103178077
gonna need a 4090 for that new korean sims game, inzoi. time to shell out, bub

>>103179110
Because they can.

>>103179125
the first time you walk out of a dark room into a bright sunny day and get genuinely blinded by your monitor as your eyes have to physically adjust to sunlight really is amazing

>>103179144
> korean sims game, inzoi
Can you create ordinary ugly gooks in that game?

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I did watch that french scammer video but put it into an AI to summarize it for me and he's wrong about the intel CPU having lower core-to-core latency than AMD, it's the other way around. I do not have any image at hand for the Core i9-14900K, unless an owner of that wants to test it himself but review websites state this:
>While we normally analyze Core-to-Core latency on new CPUs, the fact that Intel's 14th and 13th Gen are identical architecturally, we opted to omit this from our testing.

Suffice to say that it's 2-3x times the AMD one so his explanation is bullshit. Ram speed probably created the differences there in his two outlier tests.

>>103179139
m27Q

>>103179192
>NPC ai so good, it can tell if you make an ugly character

that would be fucking hilarious and fun to play

>>103179193
eCLK overclocking will cause clock stretching and reduce performance unless done carefully and properly
he is literally doing everything he can to disadvantage the 9800X3D while pretending he is putting a "max tune" on it

Is there any non meme tech that can genuinely give me binaural 3D audio for games? And I don't mean the marketing 7.1 gamer headphone trash

>>103179194
doesn't have power delivery per USB-C to the other device
I want to plug in just a single cable when I work from home and not unplug stuff from my PC

>>103179201
I expect an ingame AI that creates a typical ugly gook if I ask for it. This is not too much to ask for in the year of 2025.

>>103179224
https://sourceforge.net/p/hesuvi/wiki/Help/
But most modern video games already do that internally when they detect you're on a stereo setup. Ofc if you force 7.1 they'll give you raw 7.1 and you can virtualize as you please.

>>103179144
> Age rating: PEGI 3
It will be drop dead boring unless ruthless modders do their immoral work.

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>>103176403
i don't remember what is in this thing

>>103176462
Source nigger, it runs cooler than the 7800x3d and uses less energy than intel.

>>103179230
unfortunate. enough to charge my phone but not my laptop
>>103179231
I want them the to treat it accordingly too

>>103178950
Zozzle

>>103178821
Lol lmao even

>>103176462
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1gqaryi/new_9800x3d_msi_tomahawk_x870_burned_up_i_guess

Post the link next time nigger

>All three microcenters near me are sold out of 9800
Roping. I dont wanna wait ANOTHER month for stock to stabilize...

>>103179125
Let me redpill you as well. If you were to be in darkness and look a properly calibrated sRGB screen with good tone-mapping in player you couldn't tell the difference from your HDR experience.

>>103179357
dude just buy a used 7800x3d if you really want a gaymin cpu

>>103179110
What lil Ahmed gon' do?

Okay so if MSI and Assus are a no-go what are the brands I should look for on AM4/AM5?

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>>103176462
>Plastic molding damaged
He probably mounted it wrongly

>>103179394
>https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1gqaryi/comment/lwzkloy
that seems like the most likely cause

is it worth returning my 7800XT (US$428) and buying a 7900XTX for literally 2x the cost (US$850)

CPU is 7700X

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>>103176403
A couple RAM questions from a clueless retard looking to build for gaming and video editing
How important are RAM frequency and timings, really?
How much better is 6000CL30 vs 6000CL32?
Is it still an awful idea to use four sticks, or really anything but two sticks?

>>103179383
Asrock, ASrock and As Rock.

I'll need your guidance lads, need to buy a cheap case to throw my parts inside. I only care that the cooling is decent and it's as cheap as it can get.
Europe Romania.
I was thinking that two-three fans in front and one big one in the back is enough? I'll also keep my air cooler aligned with the air direction.
I recall watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaDFTNe8aAU&t=301s

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>>103176403
>ASRock B650M-HDV/M2
why is this recommended in the OP post, it's more expensive than better options

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>>103179383
asus, asrock, gigabyte, MSi

all vendors are fine as long as you don't try to buy a bottom of the barrel $50 mobo like its 2010

>>103179475
From what I’ve seen online it was a 1-2% better frame timings in some games
Only looked it up because the microcenter bundle came with Cl32 and I was about to thinkin GB of buying a new pair but it wasn’t needed

>>103179475
>How important are RAM frequency and timings, really?
important but you see diminishing returns rather quickly
>How much better is 6000CL30 vs 6000CL32?
absolutely no difference at all
6000CL36 can be worse because it could be samsung or micron RAM, you want hynix for DDR5
>Is it still an awful idea to use four sticks, or really anything but two sticks?
4 sticks is a good idea on DDR4
4 sticks is a bad idea on DDR5

>>103179357
Actually this makes me curious: how do microcenters work? I know they are pick up only, but can you place a hold on an item and pick it up a different day?

I'm looking for a quiet case that can fit an ATX mobo and at least four 3.5" drives. The more drives can fit, the better, this is for a home server.

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>>103179499
Niggabyte overvolts to get better benchmarks. You can't trust mobo benches today.

>>103179546
Yes they hold your order for up to 3 days

>>103179260
someone flipped your taskbar

>>103179501
this is the most unholy thing i have seen

>>103179475
just make sure those led abomination ram sticks fit under your heatsink

So because Trump signs a tarrif paper that means PC part Prices automatically go up 120% ??? how does this make sense, it's still the same supply.

>>103179488
>was thinking that two-three fans in front and one big one in the back is enough?
you dont need more than the ones that come with your case unless you buy a complete garbage case

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>>103179512
>From what I’ve seen online it was a 1-2% better frame timings in some games
That's nothing desu. Are there big improvements for production tasks or it it all a meme?
Also, how are you liking your microcenter bundle? I'm looking at them now, and the pricing seems like a steal.
>>103179533
>4 sticks is a good idea on DDR4
>4 sticks is a bad idea on DDR5
That sucks, I was hoping for an easier upgrade path on DDR5. I hope that's subject to change, given time.
Is it a bad idea to use four sticks of DDR5 for all uses, or just some?
>>103179611
Will do, anon. I'll try not to fuck myself too hard.

>>103179641
I didn't imply otherwise. I just need help seeing which case is decent that matches at least that.

>>103179394
how do these people breathe

>>103179584
makes more sense to have it up top at eye level

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Is Intel Core Ultra 9 285K truly the highest single-core perf cpu rn? are there any observed problems with them currently? my client wants it in their build for running siemens nx

so its confirmed an Indian pajeet is running userbenchmark?

>>103179656
not even close, the 9950X is

>>103179475
> How important really?
Important only for the self-esteem of enthusiasts. I say this being such an enthusiast myself.
> 6000CL30 vs 6000CL32
In this case you wouldn't notice the difference except for numbers in benchmarks.
> awful idea to use four sticks
Not in any case but probably in yours. It's less likely to work. With DDR5 even less likely than with DDR4. But it's possible if you know what you are doing when you mess with manual RAM settings in BIOS and if you are willing to run many long tests for stability. You would just have to invest more time in learning the details than would be required to earn the money for a larger 2x kit. Even by flippin burgers at MacD.

>>103179644
>I hope that's subject to change, given time
probably not, unless you're willing to pay for really expensive motherboards
>Is it a bad idea to use four sticks of DDR5 for all uses, or just some?
the only reason to run 4 sticks on DDR5 is if you need a fuckton of RAM
but you can get 48 GB with 2 sticks on DDR5 so for 99% of users there is no excuse

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>>103179651
its just about confirmed to be user error. the cpu's substrate is also physically damaged

>>103179593
well its over 10 years old. back when meta was the nzxt 210 and a hyper 212 evo.


>still more reliable than half the builds on /o/ unfortunately

>>103179533
> 4 sticks is a good idea on DDR4
RAM won't clock as high as is possible with 2 sticks.

>>103179656
the cores have the highest IPC on the market
but the rest of the chip is dogshit so it ends up losing in most workloads
i don't know if it would be any good for siemens nx, does it scale with faster RAM?

>>103179701
your infinity fabric (on AM4) or memory controller (on LGA1700) will end up hitting its limit before you run into the speed limit with 4 sticks
obviously a different scenario if you're running an old cheap B350

>>103178821
AMDIP will continue until all overclock bundles are sold!

>>103179656
yes. great chip. all of the bugs that the reviewers experienced have been ironed out.

>>103179672
>>103179704
ty, 9950x it is then
>i don't know if it would be any good for siemens nx, does it scale with faster RAM?
nope, even a typical 2x16gb is enough for complex things

>>103179692
> you can get 48 GB with 2 sticks on DDR5
You can in fact get 96 GB with 2 sticks on DDR5,
stable and reasonably fast.

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>https://youtu.be/0bHqVFjzdS8?t=203
14900k is this slow? wtf

>>103179723
>nope, even a typical 2x16gb is enough for complex things
i mean RAM speed, not RAM size
if it goes faster with faster RAM the core ultra will not do well
if it's purely core-bound (like say, cinebench) it will do well
>>103179726
on DDR4 there was no difference between 2 dual rank sticks and 4 single rank sticks in terms of maximum achievable speed
2x48 is really 4x24 with two chips on each stick
but could be different on DDR5, if they are EXPO-validated i would say there should be no problem with those

>>103179741
what are the system specs anon. I'm not watching your video unless you give more effort

>>103179711
I had 2x8GB B-die running stable at 3800MHz CL16, FCLK 1900, 1:1 with my 5800X3D.
With 4x8GB I only managed to get stable 3733MHz. On a premium X370 board.

>>103179766
4x8gb at 3200cl14 will perform as well as your current setup. ddr4 single rank performance penalty is real

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>>103179766
as in, the infinity fabric no longer went to 1900? or did it boot at 1900 but get errors in tests?
i've never been able to boot 1900 FCLK on this terrible 5800X
>>103179779
this as well

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>>103179673
It's tempting to learn a new skill, but it's good to know my time would be better spent elsewhere.
I have a very bad habit of overanalyzing prospective purchases, rather than spending that time working and just buying something better.
>>103179692
I'm not looking to buy a super pricey mobo, so that's helpful.
For context, I'm looking to buy a bundle for the savings, and they all max out at 32gb RAM, and my workloads may require 64gb in the future.

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I'm testing this (AMD version) right now and so far its very good, idle temps under 30, some fairly heavy web browsing only hitting 45. Better than kryosheet and only $5. Less reusable however.

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>>103179741

>>103179744
2x24 of course can clock higher than 2x48 but for real latency gains it had to clock 8000+ which requires rather expensive DIMMS. For nearly the same money you get double the amount of RAM that can clock @6200MHz CL30, the sweet spot for Ryzen 9k.

>>103179824
well yeah that's all you should really be asking for
4x24 will not boot at 6000 unless you do lots of tweaking
good to know

>>103179744
>i mean RAM speed, not RAM size
Seems like it doesn't matters from what little I can gathered from browsing through their forum. Still, is a 10% single-core difference(passmark) big? This is my 1st high-end workstation build so I'm kinda scared lol

>>103179839
>Seems like it doesn't matters from what little I can gathered from browsing through their forum
i still wouldn't take any chances
the 9950X is on a proven platform with no weird early adopter quirks
core ultra has some very weird performance deficits in both games and productivity, it's a dice roll if it's going to be perform well or not with your workload

I wish for everyone to use their newly built PC to their full potentials
don't be like me building my PC finally but find myself just playing mostly indie games or old console ports after the 1st month

>MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI
Is this board good?

>>103179857
don't be based like you, got it

>>103179861
middle-range, good enough not to bottleneck the most power-hungry AMD CPUs albeit that's not saying much relative to Intel

>>103179787
> infinity fabric no longer went to 1900
Probably this. Always got back to BIOS.

> i've never been able to boot 1900 FCLK on this terrible 5800X
Not even with just 2 sticks of RAM?

Those are lots of nice words, too bad i don't know what they mean-

i'm assuming that's a damn good computer though

>>103179886
>Not even with just 2 sticks of RAM?
no
though i had no idea when i was doing when i was still on 2 sticks, so maybe i could have made it work
that's a weird AM4 quirk then, but note that it's not actually the memory controller or board limiting you, it's the infinity fabric
if you boot in async mode you should be able to do 4000+ (not that there's any point in doing so)

>>103179839
> high-end workstation
Threadripper?

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Any good MicroATX cases?
I really like the look of this one but reaching the ports on the mobo seems awkward at a glance and the thermals are higher than usual just because the airflow aims to blow upward.

is the KTC H24T09P worth the extra $50 CAD over the KOORUI 24E3?
Then again I suppose if I wait till black friday it might be $50 cheaper anyway

>>103179951
everything is fine. the ports are annoying but not an issue for the most part

Cross post about wifi cards :)
>>103179872
>>103179885

>>103179951
I just ordered Lian Li A3
I can already tell it will have better temps and airflow than like half the ATX cases out in the market, given my experience with the tinier NR200 case

though you have to treat it as bottom to up airflow, top exhaust is most important, not rear

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So do I want to buy a new card now at the end of its life, or wait till the 5000 series if there are going to be Tariffs. I assume that will jack the prices up even more?

I don't want to get old tech but I also don't want to pay $2000 for a 5080.

>>103176462
>beta testing amd
thanks paypiggies

t. bought 7800X3D 2 months ago with no problems

>>103179857
happened to some of my friends and their expensive builds. They mostly play online games like league, valorant, csgo
There's one guy buying super budget build and he turned out to be happier with his rig, playing more games than others

>>103179741
>That 9800x3d smooth as fuck line frame time
God fucking DAMN

>>103180177
I built a 5600X + 6750XT a couple years ago but I'm building 7700X + 7800XT for a marginal upgrade

I'm giving my "old" PC to my dad, maybe he can start playing vidya again now that I'm outta the house kek

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>>103176847
it has plasticizers in it that flake off and gunk up. That's why people run hard tubing or EDM black tubing.

>>103179805
Absolute mogging

>>103176822
Why are the top fans so low? Even with the radiator they shouldn't come that far down should they?

>>103179857
Why not emulate stuff

>>103179951
The ones in the OP are all good. I personally like the tower series because of how it looks. Although if your looking for something slim/small the Asus Prime AP201 is the best. My only gripe is not having a glass panel and it being mostly mesh.

>>103180273
a retroid 5 can do the same for old vidya and does it on battery

>>103180273
sure if I got a craving to replay something that's not on Steam/GOG whatever like Xenogears. Though I'll prob have to figure out how to emulate it again since whatever really old emulator backup i have in a drive somewhere prob wont work in Win11 anymore

regardless, nowadays i have more money than i have time or brains, i dont even pirate anymore i'll just pay for the convenience or not play it at all

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>>103180277
Oh wait, there's a tempered glass version but it not flattering as the mesh imo

I was searching up builds since I want to build a new computer for monster hunter and it seems like intel sucks now and won’t recover in the near future. I only have had intel cpus. Went from 6500 to 12700 and now I have to buy an amd? Is the lower build quality and lack of support and premium features and lower clock speeds not matter anymore? Is pairing a 5070 with an amd cpu ok?

>>103180351
if you're on a 12700 you don't have to upgrade

>>103180351
Amd is the premium option these days >>103179805

>>103180351
get whatever's cheap
even intel CPU is going to be better value if it's cheap enough

Look at whatever deals or bundles are available in your area. Basically the price of the CPU + pay $50 for a mobo+32GB RAM usually, heavy discounts make other choices not worth it

>>103180373
But I just want to build a new pc bc I think just upgrading one part a time is stupid and I have a 3070 and the game demo played like garbage

>>103180351
>Is the lower build quality and lack of support and premium features and lower clock speeds not matter anymore
are you trying to troll or do normalfags still believe all this about AMD
that shows a massive messaging failure on their part

>>103180406
not that anon, but the intel boards DO have more features. the bigger issue seems like AMD users not understanding that better boards cost more money

>complaints about board prices
then go
>why do our boards suck compared to intel

>>103179003
my AIO hasn't had any issues in 6 years

Idk what is happening but I am gonna post here too:

My computer:
>Ryzen 7 5700g
>16gb ram both different speed
>2 ssdd 1 500gb and other 250
>A motherboard MSI a320m-a pro

Had been restarting and restarting everytime I try to start windows, I installed 2 kind of windows both legal and illegal, and still turning off and on.

I can go in safe mode,
I can use Linux on it because I tried with one USB,
It doesn't make any sounds beep or something,
I updated bios,
I clean the bios,
I clean the PC changing the paste,
Is not the psu,
Is not the ram(tried both and each one different spaces),
Is not the USBs,
Is not the screen.

But this sad shit had been restarting over and over, I am getting insane, tried with different bios config, maybe I left something out.

>>103180423
anon you dont understand, since other users don't take care of their stuff and break it. all the AIOs and OLEDs suck

yours is broken too and youre lying

>response you can expect

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>>103179982
>KTC H24T09P
I wonder if these are g2g response times but for sure if they are 100% then they're with overdrive mode and I know that it'll have some noticeable inverse ghosting for sure, maybe not game breaking.

>>103180351
Last I checked intel was only good at emulation these days. Dogshit in every other metric.

idk if this is a stupid question but I wanna throw an old mechanical HDD in my PC for backup/storage, i dont have an enclosure for it so it will be connected via sata, is there anyway i can have windows treat it like a removable drive and mount/unmount it as needed so its not spinning all the time?

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>>103180507
nah

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>>103180516

>>103180351
Yeah get a core ultra 285k and 4090 for 1440p 45fps ultra performance lmao, zen3x3d chads laugh at you

>>103180486
what are the SSDs?

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>>103180523
>>103180516
well shit Bintel has nothing left.

>>103180516
>>103180523
Fuck is nintendo going to come for techpowerup?

>>103180537
>referencing DLSS in a build spec
you're just as bad as him

>>103180516
>>103180523
>NUMBER BIGGER
~10 fps difference or Mario kart at 146fps
not good examples to swap someone, you gotta get better at choosing graphs

>>103180555
Nah that's native, core ultra dogshit 285k is that bad

>>103180177
buy once the tarrifs hit, you'll be more special, as the demand for PCs will go down as well so that GPU will truly be expensive and a status symbol

>>103180502
that german guy seems to know his shit and he preferred it over the koorui

>>103176403
Is the 7800x3d no good anymore? Why isn't it in the recommended anymore? Also why no 7600x?
t. complete newfag

>>103180648
he's biased against the koorui because his shitty calibration software gave him a huge error after calibration, not a single other youtuber got that delta E after calibration but way under 3.
I'd buy the cheapest among those.
He also got a 8.5 g2g response time while Optimum and two other youtubers got a 5.4ms out of the box or lower.
I think his monitor was factory defective.

4080 super now or wait for 5080?
Maybe it will be cheaper then?

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>>103180668
Also he seems to be a faggot, he's comparing response time with agressive overdrive on the other two but disabled on the koorui.
I never liked him, he seemed like a contrarian and doing the opposite for cheap clicks but I sometimes check him for raw data. He's not serious about it, in many reviews he forgets to show important data or hides it behind a paywall.

>>103180668
so then it wouldnt make sense to use his koorui icc profile then I guess. what other reviews were you looking at

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>>103180650
AMD stopped making it but the new hotness is the 9800X3D which is the same thing but 10-15% better. if you can get a new 7800X3D for under $400 as the stock runs through its good.

the 7600X and the 7600 are the same part but the 7600 is generally cheaper and comes with a cooler. the 7600X has a 120W power limit and the 7600 has a 65W power limit but you can turn either into the other with Ryzen master. if you can get a 7600X cheaper than the 7600 in your market then its fine.w

>>103180695
https://youtu.be/yAkzOOpiMgs
https://youtu.be/9Q_9LVW2Rl4
these two got the exact same results, I also found an ICC profile on reddit which shows the same color gamut as these with very low deltas after calibration as well

Can anyone here recommend a good monitor for coding? My second monitor just died, it was an old 1080p@60hz, now I'm looking for a better choice mainly for professional use.

>>103180695
My koorui will ship up soon I'll share my ICC here, I'll calibrate the shit out of it and give you native settings for good white point and so on without calibration as well.

>>103180696
I see. Yeah 7800x3d prices are still around $400. Maybe I'll just go for 7600 or 7600x since I'm just going for a 4070 super anyway.

>>103180739
fair enough

>>103180739
The advantage of 3d cache is also for the 1% lows, which are very important.
For example I lock all my fps to 144/120 no matter what, which means my 1% lows go even higher then and my 7800x3d does a good job. I'd get the 9800x3d if I were to buy right now. Or maybe wait a bit for a normal price.

>>103180538
patriot and teamgroup, but i dont think thats the problem

>>103180763
I was just asking because windows was having an issue with cacheless SSDs

Avoiding 98x3d due to scalping and shit availability getting a 78x3d can i run 6400 1:1?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JuUhnQaGG_I

>>103180846
>>103180846
>>103180846

>>103180832
It's a gamble. My 7800x3d couldn't do 6400 even at 1.30v soc while my 9800x3d could do it at 1.25v (didn't test lower)

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>>103176403
Alright bros
I scored a Predator PC for cheap. It's a bit pieced out.
>11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-11400F @ 2.60GHz 2.59 GHz
> Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 16.0 GB

Pic related.
I started editing videos, and it's making this thing unhappy. I want to upgrade the RAM.

It currently has (2) 8G sticks. I don't get the motherboard. It's a p03-630 motherboard. It appears to have (4) slots.

Are the slots for RAM sticks?

What are my best options to upgrade my RAM?

From what I gather you should not stagger RAM stick mem sizes are else they will default to the lowest stick.

Should I get (2) 32BG stick, or use all (4) stick slots for 16gb sticks? Or (x) factor whatnot?

Should I upgrade the i5 processor?

>>103180715
i will keep a lookout for it. can you include the full model number in your post so i can look it up on the archive?

>>103180929
>>103180913
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/tripcode/!!dEBViilDTUP/
just check this tripcode

>>103179861
Msi and amd don't mix well

>>103182359
My b450 carbon that hosted cpus from 2600x and up and my friend's b450 tomahawk tells me otherwise.
Where the fuck does the notion of msi being bad come from? Literally every company has released dogshit in some form or another, not just msi.