all IEM faceplates look bad

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>>103205393

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This makes /iemg/ sissies piss their panties

>>103205486
TWS iems like that instantly fall out of my ears
idk how anyone gets them to stay

>>103205329
I think it's this one specific outlet but yeah.

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>>103186364 (me)
Made it to the Zhangout, brought my SM4 to compare (don’t take the % too seriously).

>Xenns Mangird Top
20% better than SM4. Bright sounding, but bass was impactful and detailed. Nicer techs and resolution than SM4. But timbre felt slightly off, female vocals sound raspy and dry. You can probably overcome this with brain burn-in but the Top was very off-putting at the start.

>Thieaudio Monarch MK3
50% better than SM4. This is probably what endgame Harman sounds like. V-shape with boosted lows and highs. Kilobuck techs and resolution.

Only complaint is that it sounds too lean due to its recessed mids which hurts its timbre/tonality (but not as bad as the Xenns Top).

>Thieaudio V16 Divinity
Infinitely better than SM4. Now this I like a lot. A warmer sounding Monarch MK3, whilst retaining most of its upper mids and treble tech. I’ve always felt that the Mega5EST had perfect timbre but poor resolution and air, and the V16 fixes that. V16 is JM-1 perfected.

It’s not as detailed as the Monarch but the V16 has better midrange (and sounds more full-bodied) and I would gladly make that trade-off any day.

>IOAudio Volare and Sogno
SM4 is better than both IOAudio iems.
The Volare sounds identical to the SM4 but with poorer techs. Also, the massive shell hurts my delicate earussy. Utter pos. Crin really approved this?

Sogno doesn’t sound like the Volare (squigs are bullshit). Unnatural treble air and extension. Shrill and sibilant. But makes for VERY breathy female vocals which I’m sure is good news for ASMR gooners.

Cymbals have too sizzle which reminds me of planar timbre.

I prefer the SM4 in both instances.

>Thieaudio Origin
Didn’t like it. Mids and treble were decent but the BC driver was distracting. Maybe it was poor fit, but I could never predict when the BC driver was going to kick in, so rather than aiding in audio reproduction, it just felt like someone was tickling my ear at random intervals.

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>>103205486
is the airpod pro 2 still worth even though i dont own any apple products

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zhangout

>>103205614
It's not worth it even if you do own apple products.

>>103205688
i need a TWS though :(

>>103205712
[insert budget tws iemg rec]

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>>103205712
>i need a TWS though :(

>>103205589
>IOAudio sucking liquid shit
Fuck all chinks trying to sell Bellsings at Sonion's price with luxurious sounding brand name.

terrifying to think that there is not really a good reason to get something more expensive apart from potential placebo

>>103205800
Banish those thoughts anon, consoooom.

>>103205800
There are several good reasons to not get something more expensive.

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Hi, retard here, I can't get on with these rubber bungs in my ears, are there such things as IEMs that just sit in the ear, or does that defeat the point?

>>103205810
please stop, it's the first 11.11 where i managed to not redeem anything

>>103205824
That's not being a very good guy. What are you, poor?

>>103205889
wtf is that sentence structure, are you alright there?
not poor, have been in the game for a long while now, kind of apathetic to the whole thing now

>>103205823
are you squizing them foams before inserting?

Need some recommendations. I've been using the samsung galaxy buds for the past like 4 years and am looking for an upgrade. Was thinking of getting another TWS like the Sennheiser MTW4 but decided against it as my buds still work perfectly fine. So I've been thinking of keeping the buds and simply getting some really good wired IEMS for indoor use. I would be using them for everything e.g. Gaming, music, movies. Budget is 300€ though less is preferred if it is only diminishing returns.

>>103205950
any pos + eq (guide)

>>103205950
Aful Explorer for best bang for buck and fit.

took out some old CP145 tips from storage and saw that they were kinda yellow and a little tacky. the extra bit of stickiness is actually pretty good for me though. i think it's the silicone degrading and not mold but i don't want to think about it. smells bad too.

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>>103205393
*Ahem*

>>103206068
>they were kinda yellow and a little tacky.
>smells bad too.
nigga, did you really put them in your ears

>>103206162
Why is that style of eyes a thing? I know it's off topic, but I just hate the outlined circle eyes style

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apple really cooked with this one

>>103205589
did Crinacle zhang out?

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r8 this eq bros
been pretty comfy using it with my novas

Preamp: -4.5 db
Filter 1: ON PK Fc 70 Hz Gain 3.3 dB Q 0.5
Filter 2: ON PK Fc 290 Hz Gain 1.5 dB Q 1
Filter 3: ON PK Fc 3300 Hz Gain -1.1 dB Q 1
Filter 4: ON PK Fc 8500 Hz Gain -3.7 dB Q 2
Filter 5: ON PK Fc 10000 Hz Gain 0.5 dB Q 1.5
Filter 6: ON PK Fc 13000 Hz Gain 9 dB Q 0.9

>>103206255
yeah they cooked us all

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>>103206273
Fat fuck doesn't work on weekends

>>103205446
Hey Anon, how are the Q1 vs the G10?

which do you prefer or recommend?

>>103205446
looks bad
>>103206162
looks bad

>>103205589
Daily reminder that techs is an extremely subjective category hard to put a real read on.
Does it exist? of course.
But unless there are specific details that you can point out in specific points in specific songs? they don’t exist. The brain is also a weird thing where if a detail gets “unmasked” on a certain pair of IEMs that you never heard before? Now all of a sudden there’s a good chance it will appear on your previous gear despite not being there before
tldr; buying anything based on techs is usually a really brainlet decision. Timbre and tonality is king. “excitement” factor being a subjective meme as well is still better as it’s easier to tell what you like vs what you can actually hear

>>103206297
filter 5 and 6 are redundant

>>103206297
looks nice, added body and air might help

>>103206346
They're the same.

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>>103206360

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>>103206216
Dunno why it's so prominent. I just like cutesy, toony styles and big eyes and eyelashes.

>>103206424
wtf is gfc

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>In general, the Annihilator is an IEM that I associate with not only a lot of good memories but also legacy. It was one of my few ‘ah-ha’ moments in this hobby, a moment when I knew I’d heard something close to the pinnacle of sound.
>pinnacle of sound
Based Precog

>>103206378
Fully agreed, if I was doing a proper review I would be more measured in how I describe IEMs. But in the context of quick impressions I defaulted to using "techs" because it is an accessible and easy-to-grasp audiophilia nomenclature and I was edging 4chan's character limit.

>>103206486
>pos reference
PrecogVision lurks /iemg/ confirmed

I remember like a year or two ago anons were posting 0dibi's graphs on some iem or something. Well, the dude apparently collabed with tripowin and made an iem of his own.
https://www.linsoul.com/products/tripowin-x-0dibi-vivace

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>>103206536
>Titanium-coated PET

>>103206558
I want to coat Ryou's womb

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New in-stock budget king?

Is the whole android resampling problem actually important for someone that his music collection consists of 44.1 flacs and no >48 ones?

>>103206528
>PrecogVision lurks /iemg/ confirmed
Sharur too. I wonder how many other reviewers are here.

>>103206668
It's like every sub $20 chinkshit ever but at $30, tuned by cheating with a cloggable nozzle filter (just like all of them). Nothing stands out except that it has titanium coating instead of better DLC or beryllium coating that are available at the price point.

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>>103206668
kek

>>103206695
shartur might even start as a troll from 4kek and gradually shift from that to an ironic shitposting youtuber to a retarded, but still, audio reviewer

>>103206695
Shartur can't even get manufacturers to send him IEMs to review. Sad!

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>>103206686
its not discernible on shitty smartphone dacs

I'm not trying to troll, why do you prefer iems to full sized headphones?
I use wireless earbuds for portable use, and if I'm at home or work I like speakers or over ear headphones.

>>103206794
Better sound, better comfort.

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>>103206794
also they don't sound as good as IEMs

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>>103206794
IEMs fit under a winter cap, headpos don't

>>103206786
pre-obsoleted and mogged by The Chad Ryo

>>103205823
>that just sit in the ear
Earbuds. NiceHCK YDX or Faaeal Rosemary from Aliexpress, Applel Earpods

>>103205950
Simgot Supermix 4

>>103206686
>resampling problem actually important
It begins to cross into audiophile territory. If you're already $100s / $1000s into audio gear, have a lossless audio collection, then yeah, I don't see a reason to remain willfully ignorant to it. The solutions to resampling aren't complicated, most people use music players with "USB Exclusive Mode," like UAPP or HiBy Music, and a decent USB-C dongle.

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>>103206794
heat, dent, pads wear (regular replacement required), estrogenic bass etc

>>103206930
if harman target has a 'tranny tuck' what do schizos call the average 'high-end' headphone?

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>>103206794
comfort, portability, less bulky, no hair matting, better stereo separation, micro detail retrieval, sound isolation, frequency response consistency, more choices, universality (ear tips and 2-pin cables fit most iems)

>>103206812
>>103206895
>>103206930
Comfort I can understand, although I find full sized more comfortable.
The sound thing I struggle with. I have HD600s that I really like, and a 2.1 studio setup for making music, so I think I have a decent concept of audio quality. My current iems are some Carbo Tenores that I do think sound pretty great.
What iems should I get that will convert to the /iemg way?

>>103206794
iems objectively have better tuning than headphones because it's directly in your ear and manufacturers can make specific adjustments. it's why you'll always hear things like "this $20 iem is as good as a $100 headphone", because again, tuning is easier.
the only thing headphones have over iems is hrtf and bass.
speaker > iem > headphone

>>103206980
graphs aren't really a good representative of how headphones sound in the bass region, since the drivers are much larger than in IEMs and their sheer physicality leaves not just audible impact, but you can also feel it much better, which means even a rolled-off sub-bass on the graph will still sound rich and punchy

>>103207010
>Carbo Tenores
blud i been in this game like 7+ years. never have i heard of those pos, and they're no longer for sale on Amazon. so i'm gonna assume they're terrible by 2024 standards. see op guides, we have shopping and eq guide (also discusses targets and such)

the only thing that's had better bass then an IEM IMO is a full bass stack

>>103207010
Simgot Supermix 4 is a fine first step if that's a comfortable budget for you. If you can order from Amazon, easy returns if some aspect of it (fit comfort / sound) doesn't work for you, you can report back and we can help adjust for next decision

>>103206378
But sarr, tech is measured by price.

>>103207048
Carbo Tenores were like all the rage 15 years ago, before chifi even existed.

How do you guys transport your IEMs if you listen outside like on your way to work or something? Do you just shove them in your pockets? Throw them in a backpack?

>>103207010
for me Letshuoer S12 Pro is extremely comfortable, feels like it's molded to my ears, but there's no universal recommendation since what's the most comfortable to one person might be an atrociously bad fit for others

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>>103206378
there is already a techs graph similar to the tonality graph, here you have it

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>>103207093
Now that I read the name more, it seems familiar (or I'm just memory-faking myself). Actually surprised me with how competent the graph is relative to my expectations. Dunno if the one Crin graphed is a different model or the same. Nonetheless, pos

>>103207048
>>103207093
They were pretty hyped up years ago, still holding up well, but the cable is very microphonic. They're decently neutral.
>>103207065
>>103207099
I don't really like the over the ear style. Would prefer a bullet style I guess.

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>>103207133
etymotic is your best friend :3

>>103207133
>Would prefer a bullet style
There are less options. Tanchjim ONE DSP
DSP model comes with a USB-C cable (integrated DAC-AMP) and slight EQ adjustments to sound. The regular 3.5mm version is fine as well

>>103207133
>but the cable is very microphonic
>Would prefer a bullet style
Bruh.

>>103207094
quit being such an uncivilized animal man. roadie wrap the cable, put the pos in a small case. i prefer hard shell zipper ones. then toss in bag. bonus autism level: the case has carabiner compatibility, hook it onto latch in bag.

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>>103207133
>I don't really like the over the ear style. Would prefer a bullet style I guess.
get this and enjoy.

>>103207161
Are over ear style less microphonic? I don't understand.

>>103207201
yes, the whole outer ear acts somewhat like a cushion that drastically reduces microphonics

>>103207189
also reminder to put a silica gel pack in, but you already do that, right anon?

>>103207094
yes, pos that can't stand being abused by me is a total waste of money, my benchmark is if pos can outlive the $10 snoy canalphones, not counting the cable as you can replace it in IEMs but the earpieces themselves, since the $10 sonys can withstand quite a lot of abuse this means that all pos that can't are fucking disposable pieces of shit, not to mention if it's a kilobuck

>>103207153
These look pretty great, will check em out more.
>>103207199
>$250
I'm sure they're great, but I'm not sold on iems in general so that's a lot to drop.

>>103207094
My daily is >>103206162 so I really like to keep it clean as possible: Wipe it down after use and keep it in a pelican case + silicone packet.

>>103207232
That makes sense. I should probably give them another try.
Anything in particular sub $50 stand out?

>>103207317
which tonality do you like?

>>103207317
Kefine Klean is our newest flavor of the month

>>103207317
get the 2$ blu vido and call it a day

>>103207330
Neutral as possible, mostly listen to metal.

>>103207356
I actually have a handful of the flathead earbuds. Use em when doing yardwork and the like since they're so cheap I don't care if they break.

>>103207140
Then why did she forget my birthday

>>103207369
7Hz Salnotes Zero (the first one) and Moondrop Lan are probably the closest you can get to the neutral sound, they both have their issues but they're sub-$50 so there's not much to complain

>>103207317
I know you're gonna end up trying it out anways, but let me tell you as a fellow bullet enjoyer - they are not less microphonic for me lol. I can still hear everything just the same. If you want actual no microphonics, you'd have to get speakers, earbuds (as in the showerhead kind with no seal), or open-back headphones. Anything with an airtight seal will transfer cable noise.

>>103207235
>silica gel pack
What the fuck are those for?
>>103207189
>small case
Yeah I figured I'd have to get one

>>103207276
What is a kilobuck and a pos?

>>103207449
kilobuck pos means piece of shit for $1000 (or more), since all pos at that price are scams

>>103207094
>using IEMs in public
I use TWS as a sex haver. Can't be caught wearing POS in front of normal people lmao

>>103207449
>What the fuck are those for?
those are the flavor packets you get sometimes in boxes

>>103207489
Normal people will not give a fuck unless you are in the US.

>>103207489
no surprise sex-having unevolved monkeys use whatever earphones are the most shilled right now since they lack critical thinking and have to rely on trends and whatever is shown in the tv ads

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What sub-$200 IEM has the most detailed yet fun to listen to sound?

>>103207538
get whichever one has the coolest faceplate

>>103207538
S12 Pro

>>103207489
>TWS users proudly announcing they're on the path towards perdition
Classic

>>103207489
>doesn't have a gf that wears your new iems because she thinks they're cute
You're missing out, anon.

peace wont eq my iems when i connect them through a dac what do

>>103207662
did you install apo on the device through configuration tool?

>>103207674
i got it from sourceforge
>https://sourceforge.net/projects/equalizerapo/files/latest/download

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>>103207703
you need to install for any source you want to eq. did you do that?

>>103207662
Go to Equalizer APO configurator and reinstall. Probably bugged after a windows update.

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>>103207505
>>103207528
>>103207546
Kekkkkkk

>>103207435
I'm not sure I will. I forgot I had some KZ ZS3 in storage.
Pulled em out and I don't hate the comfort, is kind of a hassle getting em situated, whereas with a bullet style it's an easy insert.

>>103207726
>>103207732
i reinstalled and rechecked the dac box, dont know which one fixed it but thank you both anons

>>103207756
Exactly my experience too. Bullets are based

Ordered a new bullet pos.
• Etymotic ER2XR (neutral) - $100

>>103207733
Yeah and i'm sure your dick is geting swarmed with women when you walk around with your anime girl voice tws

>>103207792
he probably uses apple airpods, which would mean he barely even understands human language

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This is it for me. I didn't fall for any memes this time around.

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>>103207010
Fox IEM, endgame.
>>103207763
APO is installed for a device ID. You need to open the APO configurator for every new DAC you plug IEMs into. Ids sometimes change after windows updates and if you plug multiple DACs into the same USB so you'll need to run the configurator again for your old DACs. Also it's not necessary to reboot Windows, you can just restart the windows audio service in task manager.

>>103207845
>ddhifi cables
>didn't fall for any memes
good one lol. i considered getting that same tc07s, passed

>>103207538
The ones you EQd to sound fun and detailed.

>>103207876
I needed these types of cables and didn't want to make another order from a different place or go outside. By memes I'm talking about almost getting baited into buying a f**o CD player and also a different pos when mine is perfectly satisfactory. You could also argue getting 5 different types of tips is a meme too but my ears are picky and I need to find good ones asap.

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moodorp's paint is planned pre-obsolescence

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Any headphones recommendations? I want them mostly for hypnosis.
I was thinking of getting the Drop + HIFIMAN HE4XX Planar Magnetic Headphones.
I thought that Planar Headphone will have better audio clarity especially for the detailed frequencies etc needed

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>>103207094
When I'm outside the IEMs are always in my ears, no need to store them. If I'm on a trip I hang IEMs with my clothes to keep the cable straight.
>>103207435
I solved the microphonics by removing walking.

>>103207962
make /hpg/ thread >>103170056
he400 are notoriously power hungry, you need a good dac+amp (which is illogical for budget headpos). also uncomfortable imo, bad cheap (non-existent) weight dispersing headband, heavy.

>>103207962
>>>/g/hpg

>>103207971
this doo zooming around with some chink e-wheel and foxpos. so funny, seems like a great time

>>103207962
4xx is obsoleted by 400se which costs pennies, especially right now on 11.11. They have awful headbands with no swivel but there's no better EQ platform until LCD-2c. Don't even dream of headphones that don't need EQ.

The only. And I mean THE only headpos that beats a $20 IEM is the mudheiser HE1.

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>>103208114
Fox IEM > fox headphone > HE1

>>103207492
>flavor pack
Can't believe i ordered a pack of Gresini for that badboy

>>103208130
what headpos is that? looks like some hifiman shit.

>>103208163
Audeze

>>103208201
Au deez NUTS KEK

Take the Tanchjim Echo pill

>>103208283
Even Jim couldn't make TWS that don't suck.

>>103208316
The Mino is pretty good and cute

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I just bought 7$ PC speakers

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>>103208405

>>103208405
That's direct to landfill tier, possibly also fire and health hazard. Chinks never lie when it's too cheap, they make sure it's absolutely never worth the $7.

1DD+4BA vs 2DD+6BA?

>>103208590
both shit because pf BAs

I have this hard and fast rule that if a pos has even a single BA in it, then its a instant no go. That too no matter how reputed the brand is ion care no none.

>>103207971
>solved the microphonics by removing walking.
I play drums with an e kit, so there's no way to avoid movement.
Usually I just use over ear headphones, but the better isolation from iems is helpful. Need low microphonics to make it tolerable though.

>>103208625
I don't share the same sentiment because I actually like the added timbre that BAs generate, but what still stands is that the BA timbre is there and it's fair to not like it

>>103208625
What about MagicOne?

>>103208653
awful

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>wires in 2024

>>103208653
NTA but magicone is retarded, they could do the same with a DLC or beryllium coated DD, eliminating the need of a tuning filter at the nozzle while smoothing out the treble peaks. Single BA is a crippled driver from the start.

>>103208405
Speakers are unironically one of those things where cheap is never good. Need to hit at least $100 to be "ok".

>>103208678
no one here goes outside though so wires makes sense

>buy iem
>month later two better ones for a similar price release

Great. Love it.

>>103208644
BA tonez are unnatural and are against god's perfect plan. Humans are not supposed to hear such demonic harmonics and I shall relant from vitiating my chasteness.

>>103208712
I told you to go with Gato and just EQ it
Stop collecting 1DD pos, you only ever needed one

>>103208667
awfuls are pretty good though

>>103208705
that "okay" still gets mogged by literal $10 bulletpos

>>103208715
now that's what the real Saint would say, not the false prophet Taint

>>103208728
they are so awful they are actually kinda good I admit

>>103207538
The artti t10 can be had for like 45$ right now, they just a plastic S12 pro

>>103208724
What's a Gato?

>>103208755
Moondrop Gate

>>103208755
Romance language for pussy

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>>103208755
The final budget endgame for wired IEM (cute anime girl included)

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tanchjim bnuy status?

>>103206791
I'm planning to buy a USB-C DAC but I don't want to use UUAP or some specific app for this purpose, since I stream most of my music from my jellyfin instance, hence my original question.

>>103208644
What is a BA timbre?
t. Owner of 2 All-BA pos

>>103208644
Explain to me what's a BA timbre? Is it bad?
can eq solve them?

>>103208852
the sound of rattling in a metal tin which is exactly what's going on inside a BA

>>103208866
>can eq solve them?
it can't, but if you can live with dirty mids, you can at least appreciate additional shimmer in the treble

>>103208813
anything above 16bit-48 is kinda pointless on internal dacs since they aren't particularly great.
you CAN perceptibly gain cleaner sonic retrieval even on portable dacs like the one you are planning to buy even @16bits so you are pretty much good to go

>>103208873
so its like the sound of the rattling metal beads I hear when I jerk off intensely

>>103208866
>Explain to me what's a BA timbre?
higher third harmonic distortion.
>Is it bad?
it's a matter of opinion.
>can eq solve them?
no. you can make fake BA timbre with a harmonic distortion pluigin.

good morning sirs which bellsings are better among bellsings made by knowles and bellsings made by sonion kindly revert back sirs

>>103208873
Ha ha okay. Is this real or just some Headfi tier phenomenon anons are okay with pushing since some of you have a massive hate boner for BAs? I'd like some studies that prove this is audible.

>>103208966
he never had a good BA multi driver, he is just somehow capable of listening to graphs

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Why does this IEM cost $17,000? O.O

How to gently remove glue from a cloth filter?

>>103209000
Holy fuck imagine the techs...

>>103209000
it's got 8 drivers that are individually wired and controlled with separate amplifiers

>>103209000
it's extremely over-engineered

>>103209077
all that to measure like a KZ castor

>>103209163
the separation and detail is probably amazing
I don't think it's worth anywhere near $17k for it though. I wonder how many orders they have

>>103209000
Because there are people who will buy it.

>>103209205
at least 3, it's the new FOTM in the watercooler thread

>>103208724
Man shut the fuck up.

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>>103209000
Why does this cable cost $60000. Stop asking stupid questions. The real cost of everything in audio is in single digit dollars, the rest is retard tax.

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can I EQ this?

For single DD, is bigger driver diameter the better?

>>103209422
No.

Hey bros, is there a way to have autoeq generate settings for given frequencies? I want to use eq on my xduoo x3ii but it only allows me to change a specific set of freqencies (31, 63, 125, 250, 500, 1k, 2k, 4k, 8k, 16k). I know the FR match won't be as perfect, but I want to see if i can get something close at least.

>>103206383
>>103206384
I've been messing with it a bit more, trying out different autoeqs. ended up eqing to davinci FR and it's actually immensely better.

Preamp: -3.9 dB
Filter 1: ON PK Fc 20 Hz Gain 0.4 dB Q 2.000
Filter 2: ON PK Fc 39 Hz Gain 0.6 dB Q 1.300
Filter 3: ON PK Fc 110 Hz Gain 3.5 dB Q 0.500
Filter 4: ON PK Fc 460 Hz Gain 1.4 dB Q 1.200
Filter 5: ON PK Fc 1200 Hz Gain -0.7 dB Q 1.600
Filter 6: ON PK Fc 4700 Hz Gain 2.7 dB Q 2.000
Filter 7: ON PK Fc 4800 Hz Gain -2.7 dB Q 0.500
Filter 8: ON PK Fc 6400 Hz Gain -4.9 dB Q 2.000
Filter 9: ON PK Fc 13000 Hz Gain 4.8 dB Q 2.000

>>103209422
Yes.

>>103209422
for 1DD IEMs just make sure it has a curve you like

>>103209422
quite the opposite, smaller DD can move faster and its surface bends less, in my experience 5-7mm DDs are among the fastest and techiest and with good seal are just as bassy as ~10mm ones, of course top-tier coating such as DLC, LM or beryllium is still very important

>>103206297
>>103209440
just tried both with my Novas
I prefer stock tuning

>>103208786
Seems to be out in select thirdie markets. Pagpag niggas are WINNING!
Im waiting for the zero ultima anyways

>>103209486
>coating
Could you tell me more about the coating materials? What makes them different. I even saw a DD with purple gold coating for whatever reason

>>103209381
tanchjim shills look like THAT?
holy cringe

7hz timeless came in the mail, they sound exactly like my old apple earpods I had. I feel kinda scammed desu. Did I pick a wrong pair to start off or something?

>>103209757
the general rule is the more lightweight and rigid the coating material is, the better, but since acoustics are very complex and largely subjective, there are many flavors of coatings, some of them even add a timbre to the sound, there's also an economic factor which leads to thickness, evenness and quality of the coating, that's why not all DDs with the same coating material are created equal

>>103209810
>Did I pick a wrong pair to start off or something?yup. and u prob arent getting good seal

>>103209810
>Spending 200$ on something you can get for 40 thanks to Artti

>$50
>PC/phone, office mostly, will use 3.5 jack
>Neutral, metal
>No name wireless earbuds.
Looking to get my first half decent pair of iems for at work.
Based on some lurking I'm considering: Moondrop Chu, Tanchjim One, 7hz salnotes zero 2, and Kefine Klean.
Not sure about the over the ear style, but it seems like those are the most popular.

>>103209926
>Tanchjeet
I’m BIPOC trans btw if that matters

>>103209926
Bluepilled: Any option you mentioned
Redpilled: Truthear Gate
Your choice

>>103209926
If you're the same guy from earlier, nobody can predict what you will like. Your references as far as you've shared are HD600 and Carbo Tenores, two mediocre-poor pieces of gear that are not representative of reference neutral sound. You may be accustomed to their sound and think they sound good, that is a (You) problem. Asking for more advice beyond what has been given is waste of time. You can simply look at shopping rentry and gather more names, and look at other sources and be inundated with even more. There are hundreds of viable decent IEMs. Just pick one according to looks you like.

>>103209926
Take every popular sub 100$ POS and randomly draw one from a hat at this point lmao

What are some good blue tooth only headphones since pixel removed the 3.5mm headphone jack? Something that sounds good, looks good, and doesn't fall off my fucking ears

>>103210108
airpod pro 2

>>103210116
how about i beat you to within an inch of your life?

>>103210108
>$25
moondrop space shit
>$60
buds fe

>>103205486
>>103210122
this is me btw

>>103209000
isn't this just the 7hz zero 2 graph minus the treble extensiom

>>103210151
u trippin, zero 2 isn't harman-ish at all

>>103210131
based gatekeeper purposely giving terrible advice instead of suggesting the budget king melobuds pro

>>103210176
much better than coping with a shitty qcy that only brazilians and pajeets buy

space shit: good tuning, decent and, cute waifu voice
buds fe: good tunings, good anc, comfort, battery, brand rep

>>103210231
>cute waifu voice
What do you mean cute waifu voice? The bluetooth speaker voice?

>>103210240
yeah
https://vocaroo.com/1a0xjIBcfpVs

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>>103210248
holy based

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https://youtube.com/watch?si=i5b-DuR5BDb4sFSg&v=Sn07AMCfaAI&feature=youtu.be
>i bet most of you faggots dont understand how humans perceive audio
>god i hate you audiophools so much
what did he mean by this?

Anyone ever used that chink wireless called the Linsoul KZ AZ15? Something with a nice hook looks good.

>>103210299
will be noisy and shitty. step up to UTWS5 (2025) if you're going to pay more money for earhook adapters. otherwise stick to whatever cheap trn / celest shit

>export graph from squig.link
>gives me 2 files instead of 1 csv
>autoeq cli takes a single input file
is this L and R? do i just average them into one new file?

>>103210366
that's not how you autoeq newfag...

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Should reccs from OP only include Tanchjim pos ?

>>103210391
why are you gay?

>>103210413
those who know, know. tanchjim 1dd special sauce is legendary, spacious, and holographic.

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nth for plutus beast

>>103210267
>"listen to these two sounds! can you hear the difference?"
>yes. they're the same frequency only the right one has added frequencies because that's how most digital instruments work
>"I BET YOU THOUGHT THE RIGHT SOUND WAS LOWER"
and i closed the video because fuck this guy

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>>103210413
I love me some Tanchjim.

>>103210413
i prefer to keep it out just like gato
let people keep wasting time with slop fotm pos, while the actual gems are reserved to lurkers

>>103210248
>>103210240
I'd be far more inclined to buy if it was a mommy voice instead

>>103210737
Sure there's a way to add your own voice in the firmware right? I can just rip some voice sample files and generate my own because i want a mommy voice.

>>103210765
How would you even flash the tiny chips though

>>103210843
Through autism and the strength of will. I will have my Scull headphones to tell me to charge them.

>>103209920
elucidate

>>103210866
the same driver (in fact a newer generation) as the 7hz timeless, with better tuning is present in the artti t10

>>103210866
you got meme'd by retards
any pos + eq (guide) is the way

Is the fanchjim one really the only real option for bullet shaped pos?

Is there a BC pos that actually works? All the ones I've tried don't make any difference.

>>103210920
there is tanchjim tanya, final e-series, tangzu changle, etc.
one is better than them so why bother.
final e have a "unique," sound but it's not "high fidelity," rather soft like a bloom filter

>>103210959
i liked thieaudio origin and kinera verdandi over any empire ears or unique melody pos. but that's just my opinion and auditioning at canjam. still didn't like either enough to immediately cough up the dough

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>>103210920
the only solid one, sure
there are a few others (final audio e500, moondrop quarks(2), tangzu changle, tanchjim tanya, etc) but they all have issues
the tanchjim one might not have the best sound out of them, but it strikes a good balance between sound quality, accessories, and comfort, and the PEQ in the USB version makes it far better than anything else
>>103210949
picrel shows a meaningful impact of a BC driver
it depends on the implementation. stuff like the konoka and origin will have bass BCs that introduce a very prominent bass resonance, while others use a wideband BC above 1khz, in which case it acts as any other type of driver used for shaping FR.

>>103210965
meant for>>103210949

>>103210949
if u want to burn the cash try pula anvil and let us know if it's pos or not

aree zero 2 comfortable

>>103211080
maybe. maybe not. not really for me, nozzle too short. also shell looks dumb af

Why do autoEQ presets have -db preamp? Why not keep it 0?

>>103210866
The t10 uses the same driver as the 1400$ solo

>>103211133
To avoid clipping and blowing up your eardrums.

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>supermix 4s aren't as good as my 8 year old bose soundsports

what should i buy

>>103211720
JBL T110

>>103207010
HD600 released in 1997? your IEMs are 15 years old? i doubt you've kept up with DACs/amps etc or upgraded your speakers in the last 5 years considering how profoundly inept music production anons are

some anons even insist on using 20 year old VST2 plugins

>>103211720
>>103205446

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>>103212258
zero two looks better

>>103209422
Bigger DD means more jagged treble. But make it too small subbass starts to suffer. 10mm is the best compromise.

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>>103205376
>• Final E500 (dark) - $25
Where the hell do I get this? can't find it on ali, stores in my country are charging $100 for this

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>>103212277
Looks terrible.

>>103210366
The 2 files are L and R. You can use either or make an average of them in Excel.

>>103212429
On some squigs there's a header which can tell you which channel it is, on other squigs it's just raw data.

>>103212429
you need the RMS average

>>103208705
Wrong.

>>103208781
That's an O? Doesn't look like it.

>>103212592
Name one.

>>103210108
Xiaomi Buds 5.

>>103212609
Well, okay. Cyber Acoustics CA-2014.

>>103212653
Post graph.

>>103212299
So anyone?

>>103212674
Amazon.

>>103212674
It's a Japanese brand. The availability varies almost as much as their channel balance.

Any good headphones yet?

>>103212835
Beats by Dre exist bro

>>103210108
You can try the sony xm5 earbuds if you have the money, they stay in my ears better than any other true wireless buds I've tried. Buy them on amazon and return them within 30 days if they don't fit well for you (if you don't like the sound you can fix that with EQ, but they're pretty decent out of the box, significantly better than their headphones with the same name). There's probably better bang for your buck options out there, but they're a safe bet if you've got money to waste.

>>103212835
just buy 6xx

>>103213027
Demoed hd650. it's bad. But I used fresh pad measurements for EQ, maybe I should have used old pads.

>>103213074
why are you asking about headphones in an IEM thread if you know anything about headphones

>>103213100
Because the headphone thread doesn't know anything headphones.

>>103213116
What are you looking for exactly then? Other common recs are DT770 80ohm (bad if you are treble-sensitive), and the Sundara. Pretty hard to make a recommendation if you don't say anything about budget or use-case.

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>>103206695
>crinacle credits /g/ anon

>>103213132
>What are you looking for exactly then?
Something that can compete with $5 IEMs in distortion, with pads that don't clamp and don't make ears sweat, the headband that doesn't dent the skull and doesn't weigh a ton. The budget is $10000. No options found so far. The use case is casual music listening after shower until my ears are dry enough for IEMs.

>>103213186
What kind of stupid requirements are those, basically the only thing that leaves you with is the kph40, just EQ it with oratory and slap some yaxi pads on them if they're not comfortable enough.

>>103213206
Tried ksc75, atrocious subbass and treble, EQ can't save them. kph40 is the same thing but with a headband.

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>>103212677
No amazon here bro, anything else?

>>103213186
>Something that can compete with $5 IEMs in distortion
This alone eliminates 99.9% of headphones, be realistic.

>>103207449
>>silica gel pack
>What the fuck are those for?

its the poorfag alternative to audiophile rocks

http://www.adventuresinhifiaudio.com/26/01/2018/audiophile-rocks-down-the-rabbit-hole-once-again/

>>103205376
threadly /iemg/ bass poll cont.

currently at 50:50 ratio between bass slope vs bass scoop.

https://strawpoll.com/w4nWWeVbWnA

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>>103208678
>becomes expensive e-waste once the battery dies
>if it's Samsung it'll explode and blow your eardrums
>gotta put them in your pocket when you remove one to talk with someone
>transparency modes are copes for the aforementioned inferior design sold as a revolutionary feature
vs
>the IEM's themselves don't have an expiration date
>cable that can be replaced if damaged
>can buy something like picrel to make them wireless
>can leave one (or both) dangling if it has a clip
TWS buds are a meme and an inferior product that retards got gaslighted into believing it's superior to IEM's and everything that was on the market before Apple came up with the Airpods and the headphone jack removal to peddle more useless expensive shit to their believers.

>>103213374
Are there any waterproof iem?

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>>103205486
>>103207489
>>103208678
>being a sodomite in 2024

>>103213445
Why the fuck would you swim in earbuds for that to be a concern you fucking retard?

>>103213374
Also oval tips are a giant meme. When you lie on your back they just collapse.

>>103213484
So no?
Why the anger?

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I have no idea how I should be controlling volume with this setup in picrel.
Currently I have the source set to 100%, DAC set to fixed output mode (0db), and I use the dials on the headphone amp and integrated speaker amp to control.

>>103213515
>he bought into the waterproof marketing meme

>>103213557
I use 3 separate DACs for IEMs, headphones and speakers because they need different EQs anyway. I simply use the OS volume control. I heard there are separate usb volume knobs just to control volume of the OS/individual applications, streamers use them. If you fell for the high end DAC meme then may God help you.

>>103213499
There are tws with regular tips.

Guys I don't understand EQ
I'm told "it's free" but my time isn't
So I grab the best EQ for my particular ones, the best preset, the one that I'm supposed to use and I have a hard time getting used to it
Am I supposed to just stick with that shit? Is this "better for my health" or something?

>>103211133
Digital signal goes from -1 to 1, if you boost some frequency it might go over 1 and it will clamped down to 1 and produce distortion. Unrelated to hardware distortion and easily avoidable by preamp. Due to the spectrum of music being pink noise and not white noise you can actually risk boosting high frequencies without negative preamp.

>>103213707
There's no best EQ. What's the best shoe size? Same thing.

>>103213707
>my time isn't
>hard time getting used to it
Well either don't EQ or maybe figure out what you value more, a couple of hours of your time or liking what you hear.

>>103213769
How do you even do it in just a couple of hours

>>103205376
thought they were panties in the thumbnail

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remember to eq your iems to jm-1

>>103213936
Why this over harman?

>>103213964
because it sounds correct. harman is too lean and sibilant

>>103214003
sounds like preference to me

>>103212653
This doesn't even count as a speaker. You haven't heard even 1% of what speakers have to offer. Try again. Pioneer SP-BS22-LR is the bare minimum of what can be consider a speaker, impossible to find nowadays.

>>103212601
yeah it's an E
well, it does look enough like an O which is why many people meme it as Gato everywhere

>>103214003
Who was jm-1 made by?

>>103214469
this guy. joel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZoKPtzjdtQ

>>103213707
iems sound horrible without EQ because theres gonna be a resonance peak

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>>103213707
EQ is $10 IEM cope

>>103213707
>Am I supposed to just stick with that shit?
Yes
AutoEQ is supposed to be the retard friendly way for you to quickly try different FRs and see what catches your tastes the most
Whereas manual EQ is supposed to take a very long time to master, whoever tried to tell you otherwise was lying

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>>103214652
Frieren would never say this!

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>>103214717
>t.

>>103213936
>tranny soulless target
No thanks.

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>>103214652
Everything needs EQ.

>>103214729
Truthear Nova doesnt need EQ (for my ears)

>>103214748
You are deaf

>>103214760
I've yet to hear a Nova EQ that sounds better then stock tuning

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>>103214748
Get better ears.

>>103212068
>upgraded your speakers in the last 5 years
I'm using Yamaha HS5s, had them for years so I'm very familiar with how they sound and how mixed translate. Isn't that the point of music production?

>>103214782
but my ears are already perfectly tuned

fresh bread >>103215003

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>>103212068
>you must... le upgrade!
audio was solved decades ago