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Remember to fox your IEM.

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>>103205589 (me)
Day 2 of my blog, tried some summit-fi today, moar impressions:

>Nostalgia Audio Camelot (USD$2600)
VERY boomy bass and energetic treble. Aggressive V-shape. The Camelot is too shrill and sibilant for me. Mids might as well not exist. 0/10.

>Melodic Artification Alter Ego (USD$2500)
Classic Harman tuning like the SM4 and Truthear Nova. Bass switch adds body and warmth which sounds like New Meta-adjacent. Both tunings are really good without sacrificing resolution. Sounds like a refined Monarch MK3 without its recessed mids. If you think of this as 2 IEMs in 1, the value proposition is not that bad. 9.5/10.

>Empire Ears Odin (US$3400)
Female vocals have a slight edginess and unnatural extension to them. Suffers from overenergetic treble like the Camelot. But good timbre and very wide-sounding. Lows and mids are okay, if you cope hard enough the Odin is usable. 5/10.

>Elysian Acoustics Annihilator 2023 (USD$3000)
Lives up to the hype. Extremely clinical and incredibly resolving – TOTL “techs”.
Only complaint is that it is TOO clinical – music sounds cold and there’s no sub-bass thump. But minor flaw like this can be forgiven when the upside is so great. You WILL believe in “techs” once you hear this IEM. 10/10.

>Vision Ears VE10 (USD$3030)
Aggressive V-shape like the Camelot but done tastefully. Tons of bass and treble without sacrificing mids. The definition of fun. 9/10.

>Nostalgia Audio Durandal (USD$2420)
Same problem as with the EE Odin. Sibilant, raspy female vocals. Harman-adjacent tuning but barely on the level of the SM4. 2/10.

>Subjective preference
Annihilator > Alter Ego > VE10 > Odin > Durandal > Camelot

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>>103215074
Also more Hangout:

>Fearless x Crinacle Dawn
Looks like Crin already did New Meta 4 years ago. This thing is better than the Mega5EST in every way. Better quality bass and more resolving in the uppermids/treble. Subjectively, I would rank the Fearless as 30% better than the M5E.

>Thieaudio Prestige
No wonder Thieaudio made the LTD, because the OG Prestige is pos. The elevated mid-bass just sounds like mud, and makes it even less resolving than the SM4.

>7th Acoustics Supernova
Old-school Harman with a specialization for uppermids and female vocals. Very resolving for Jpop/Kpop but otherwise incredibly overpriced.

>Softears RS10
Slightly warm, veiled, and low-res. Maybe the demo unit was broken because this thing doesn’t even sound as good as the Salnotes Zero. It’s akin to hearing an IEM at such low volume that you can’t even begin to describe its sound signature, that’s how I feel when listening to the RS10.

>Subjective Ranking
Fearless > Supernova > Prestige > RS10

Let us know when you meet that fatso Cringeicle.

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>favourite pos+tube amp
is this the trve endgame?

>>103215199
My favorite pos has flat impedance so tubes won't even do anything except add some harshness.

My artti t10 frying pans arrived, they're very good lmao

>>103215074
what's your source setup?

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>>103215086
>Dawn
>Meta target
Lmao. No it's not.

>>103215074
Annihilator 2023 is bassy retune of Annihilator, the one that has the techs. Either that's not what you listened to or you're deafzo,

>>103215331
UAPP into Fiio Q7

Also reminds me, the annihilator was significantly harder to drive, almost 20~30 steps more at H gain

>>103215421
Thanks anon, i hope you got the chance to rub Crin's belly

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>>103215418
I know what the squigs say, but it wasn't bassy to my ears. And I confirmed that it was indeed the 2023 version.

>>103215417
I directly A-B'd both

What iem to recommend to a normie to convert them?

>>103215476
Aful 5+2

>>103215473
Og annihilator I'd believe, BA pos has less bass than on graph, but 2023? Maybe those BAs are extra possy or the seal was extra bad.

>>103215485
Too expensive, normies aren't gonna spend that much on audio gear

>>103215473 (me)
Fuck you >>103215418 for making me second guess myself. I'll go back and do another listen tomorrow

>>103215499
Artti t10 while it's still 40$?

>>103215476
Gate, Abyss or Zero2

chang completely chinked me this 11.11

>>103215592
chang only had good intentions

>>103215592
Thank you sir pls understand :)

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>>103215679
>want the new BTR17
>buy it before the big 11.11 sale so that I don't have to deal with out-of-stock issues
>5 days go by, chang still hasn't shipped it out
>message chang asking what's up
>"sorry but we're out of stock right now, this should ship next week"
>wtf? ok I'll extend the processing time
>next day chang cancels order
>alright I'll just order it somewhere else
>every store is out of stock or back ordered for 1-2months
>except for chang that is, he has it in-stock but is price gouging for $60
>already burnt my coupon on the original order so it's effectively $100 more now
this is not true music

>>103215819
this is why you don't consoom from alix

got a new job which sometimes puts me inna real loud factory
i'm expected to have daily web meetings, what's a pair i can abuse and has a real nice mic?

>>103215819
You got fiio'd in ways I didn't even think was possible.

>>103215819
>Want new pmp, and some new IEMs
>buy during the middle of 11.11 sale
>All items ship and are now in customs
>Chang gave me a few nice coupons also
Should have gotten a Hiby pmp instead of fiio slop

>>103215876
does hiby sell anything with the QCC5181 chipset?
it's the only reason I want the BTR17

>>103215819
How the fuck does this dogshit company still exist.
>>103215898
That chipset literally doesn't matter, it's not responsible for audio(and if it is then it's dogshit).

>>103215913
it does matter when I want bluetooth connectivity

>>103215926
Every 100+$ chink pmp can be used as a Bluetooth dongle

>>103216071
do they support multipoint connections?

>>103216083
Probably not :(

>>103215003

threadly /iemg/ bass poll cont.

bass slope gang is currently winning

https://strawpoll.com/w4nWWeVbWnA

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>>103215417
>>103215086
>>103215074

>>103213809
start with a sensible preset. AutoEq uses harman with -2db bass, i find -1.7db bass with a mild boost in the lower mids like monarch mk2 to be very accurate, although for a satisfying bass response you need high quality eartips like FiiO HS20 and the correct fitment with a good seal. use a tone generator to find a resonance peak, a frequency range where it's disproportionally loud to your ears, EQ that down. also try EQing down the 5khz "harman shout" to look more like tilted diffuse field or JM-1, it should look similar to moondrop variations. depending on the app, like equalizerAPO, you need to set a negative preamp to avoid digital clipping. that should get you close enough.

Ordered the 7hz Zero2. What am I in for?

>>103216338
tinnitus.

>>103216338
lots of bass
hole in treble
shitty fit
microphonic shell

>>103216361
>>103216364
So they're trebley but there's a hole in the treble?

>>103216380
shrill preceds the "scoop" because of resonance peaks and thus the treble canyon

>>103216424
Fair enough, I can return them if they suck, or keep as a backup. Thought they were well regarded.

>>103216444
well regarded;
>by shill tubers
>zhang
>70y/o boomers
yea that doesn't give it a good look I will be honest with you

>>103216473
What should I have gotten instead?

>>103216494
epz q1p or cadenza

>Budget
+/- EUR 200
>Intended use (media, source, environment)
Fiio M23 with Apple Music / Apple Music Classic
>Frequency response preference and music examples
Classic, Jazz, Ambient, IDM, Vaporwave
>Past gear and your thoughts on them
iPhone with Air Pods Pro 2 and Sony Walkman A-45 with Aria SE. i like both setups, but the soundscape and warmness of the airpods is a little better for me. any recs? kinda looked into the Moondrop Katos but i'm not convinced yet. at home i have a FiiO R7 with Sundaras, wich i absolutley love.

>>103215003
What amp is that? I bet it costs like 5k.

As a newfag in this hobby, how long do IEMs last for assuming optimal conditions?

>>103216882
essentially forever unless you have some esoteric shit driver like ests

>>103216882
can last for several years provided you take good care of your ears (prevent wax buildup)

>>103216694
simgy supamixx is what you are looking for, chief

>>103216875
ZMF Aegis $3200

>>103216926
why them over truthear nova?

>>103216893
Do ESTs really degrade or is that just a meme?

>>103216990
mostly a meme, but they will degrade after a couple of years (at worst) so they won't last forever
assuming the shell of the iem stays intact, every other driver will work as well as it did on day one

alright. gonna redeem artti t10 bros. Everyone's hyping them and they're cheap right now.
Also I just saw this while looking through the archives
>>103154805
>The artti t10 with some modding is functionally on par with 1400$ POS (btw people reviewing the solos report they sound on par with other kilobuck IEMs lol, it's literally just placebo snake oil), there is no improvement
what modding was this anon talking about?

>>103216990
Even Sonion themselves say they lose 50% charge in 30 years (probably best case scenario). As audiophiles can hear differences from connectors or expensive wire material (lol as if), it baffles me that they willingly purchase IEMs with degradable drivers.

>>103217111
T10 sucks, worse than OG timeless.

>>103217111
Nobody's hyping them anon, you're just in your purchase validation phase.

Firstly, planar timbre is an acquired taste and unfixable with EQ, planars are one of the worst things to blind buy in this hobby. Secondly, the T10 isn't exactly known for its quality control - my unit died after a month of using them.

>>103216986
pre obsoleted by $2 vido

>>103217161
Name a single pos that lasts for 30 years

>>103217191
such pos would be Tanchjim One lets be real over here

>>103217191
has a single IEM even existed for 30 years?

>>103217238
Etymotic (kinda)

>>103217191
At least you can be certain that it won't be any EST-containing pos.

>>103216990
Est runs on battery. Yes, it will degrade within a few years. I doubt any moondrop variations will live until 2030, or even before then.

>>103217171
>T10 sucks
>>103217173
>Nobody's hyping them

Literally last 3 threads I keep seeing they're on par with the $1400 solos because they use the same drivers

>>103217423
Let me guess, you thought $1400 = good sound.

>>103217423
>thinks price matters
>thinks drivers matter
lmao

>>103217423
How fucking new are you?? Planar driver meme has been a thing since the original timeless back in 2021, it is not an indicator of sound quality. Can you lurkmore before making such retarded posts?

Any reason to wait for black Friday sales on Ali? Seems like the stuff is already so cheap they can't drop it too much

>>103217473
not really, they'll be around the same price as well so it doesn't really matter

>>103217473
11.11 is the biggest sale, bigger than black friday. Black friday at most will have same or worse deals.

>>103217438
>>103217448
so you're saying they ARE on par with the $1400 iems?

>>103217467
>How fucking new are you??
last 3ish threads and a couple a while back
imagine being here for years

>>103216882
It really varies as i have some that are 5~4 years old and just chug along (Tin T2), some that broke down beyond reasonable repair (QOA Vesper), and some that needed soldering and gluing but work fine till now (Tin T4).

personal rule(s) of thumb:
>spend only as much as you're comfortable with and ideally as little as possible
>don't be afraid to experiment with various IEM that have entirely different sound signatures
>manufacturing quality has improved it's still chinkshit QA
>molded plastic shell models are less repairable but essentially as reliable as metallic ones

>>103217507
They're on par with $40 IEMs sold for $1400, yes.

>>103217507
price has no correlation with sound quality, if you want to create placebo for yourself feel free

>>103217479
>>103217505
Sweet. Gonna order the Melobuds Pro and try the Q1 Pro.

>>103217507
I assume you're talking about 64a solo. The only reason they sell that high is because it's american made (higher labor costs) and brand name. It's just as good as any other planar.

>>103217423
It's one guy who doesn't own either coping, seriously learn to recognize retarded poorfags.

Is Kara still worth it?

>>103217581
yes, till forevermore

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>>103217536
NTA, but while I agree with this sentiment, poorfags also often use this argument in bad faith and cherrypick examples to dismiss ALL kilobuck pos as sounding bad or no better than $20 1DDs. This argument is only ever used to punch down on high-end/summit-fi pos.

>>103217595
Redeemed

>>103217607
there is no correlation between poorfags and respectable behavior as well unfortunately

stupid noobie question but
>android default sampling: 44.1-48khz
>usb dac sampling rate: 192khz
does this just mean that there is no way to get better audio on android even with a dac?

Are there any sub 150~200USD Planar IEMs that are worthwhile?

>>103217649
Sampling is unrelated to sound quality.

>>103217649
you are thinking too much anon
just use bit perfect via usb

>>103217654
I think the S12 line is the default rec for cheap planars.

>>103217507
The correct perspective on this isn't that a 40$ POS is as good as a kilobuck POS; it's that 64 audio made a 1400$ POS that sounds like the average 40$ POS

The t10 came out first a few months ago, and this style of IEM has been out since late 2021 with refinements since,
These planars are very good btw, but the reality is that most IEMs in the 20-100$ range are insanely good, especially with EQ

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This is more for headphones but what FQ comparison site is this?

>>103215473
>>103215491
I can relate to what anon is perceiving having heard Anni 2023. I'm not so overly hyped on the techs because imo tonality suffers so much. It's very airy, ethereal, lean, and light, at the expense of warmth, body, weight, and natural tonality. Even if the graph might imply bass is boosted, the upper frequencies are frontal. Not my jam

>>103216694
>+/- EUR 200
Letshuoer S08, Shozy P20, Aful Explorer, CKLVX D41. Shop around sales, if price isn't too different, Amazon is safe because returns are easier. Go with what looks cooler / more comfortable to wear (Explorer likely wins fit comfort). Don't bother with KATO, it'll sound very similar to your Aria SE

>>103217759
this guy: listener800.github.io/5128

>>103217654
"worthwhile" is hard to determine
if we're talking about good sounding planars, then yes, there are plenty
if we're talking about being competitive with the rest of the market, planars have a characteristic tuning but an additional markup.

>>103217780
tanks

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>>103217507
$1350 on faceplate R&D

>>103217111
>>103217654
>planar pos
Some people like them, some don't. Just try some shit out for yourself if you're not an utter poorfag, literally no better time in the year to buy. The discussion about drivers used is divorced from whether or not they sound good, and like any gear, there is not a unanimous opinion.

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tanchjim bnuy status?

>>103217698
Is there a particularly recommended version, and how do they compare to something like the Tin P1 Max?

>>103217789
Not being utter shite for the price and an interesting sound signature in comparison to the rest of the stuff on the market for the same price point.

>>103217821
I'm curious enough to try planar IEMs because i had planar overear headphones a while back and they were quite alright sounding but the comfort was beyond horrid.

>>103215819
FiiO scuffed BTR17 and JM21 releases. They had very limited units ready to go, knowing full well they'd be hot sellers if released for 11.11. They also have many third party listings on Aliexpress, which you shouldn't order from, because they're listing stock they don't have (your case)

Tanchjim sisters... My Kara arrived but it doesn't properly in my ear because of the fat nozzld and the iem looks like it sticks out. Might have to return it... are all Tanchjim shells like this?

>>103217847
>Tin P1 Max?
Here is where planar IEMs get complicated. Plenty of models have undergone silent revisions. The source of the drivers is the same OEM. The OEM has steadily iterated the design and manufacturing process over time, and some older models, like the P1 MAX you mention, were continually produced, but if a later batch, has newer drivers. Tuning is also revised, so you should not reference graphs of an "original," P1 MAX and expect to receive such a unit. There is nothing nefarious at play, simply the manufacturer using available components and not bothering to replicate an esoteric tuning.

>>103217902
why didn't you demo it first xis...

>>103217902
can't really lump them all in a group. hana and o2 were a bit slimmer shell, but stubbier nozzle. kara just has "too straight," a nozzle design like hexa, not contoured / angled enough to reach in your earussy. for me, smaller, shorter ear tips are better synergy for kara. i have used spring tips in the past, but currently have whizzer ss20 on mine. divinus velvets worked, but stuck out further from ear (also black color doesn't match the clear shell)

Haven't been to /g/ in forever, why is there no /hpg/ anymore? It's not merged with this one, right? Asking because after two ear infections and now a semi-permanent itching ear I have to face reality and accept that my lowly genetics are not made for iems, which is why I need some buyer's advice for some closed back headphones:
>200$ max
>ultra-comfortable for 8h+ sessions while wearing glasses
I already got some X2HR and couldn't be happier sound-wise but they're basically just speakers for everyone else around me. I don't wanna make compromises in volume when I watch my JAVs around other people.

>>103217962
just bake /hpg/ thread ya tosser. they'll shill you the shittio ft1 or w/e (heard it, it sucks)

>>103217962
headphones are solved tech so no further discussion is required

>>103217912
Well that explains why there are like 5 S12 variants and one being a "2024" model that's almost double in price. Gonna do a bit more research to see what isn't horsehit or just get a regular IEM in the 150~ish price bracket.

>>103217962
>ear infection
>closed headphones

lmao

assuming you aren't too treble sensitive just get DT770s and bend them to fit.

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EM6L or Supermix 4? Also, what happened to Supermix 1, 2, and 3?

>>103217934
I tried spring tips and spinfit smalls on it and still sticks out. So would you say Hana and Oxygen would fit better? And can I assume you're talking about new Oxygen?

>>103218044
"research" of other online impressions of retards and shills isn't going to help you with anything. look at graphs, choose by your personal wants for aesthetics / build. the differences between s12 models are equivalent to basic "mods," involving placing some foam sponge / additional filter in the nozzle, and they otherwise look different and have modular cables if you get the pro or 2024 editions

>>103218065
>So would you say Hana and Oxygen would fit better?
For my ears no. For you, idk.
>assume you're talking about new Oxygen?
Do you mean Origin? Mine is on the way, can't speak on fit, but the design seems more preferable to me as far as metal shells go

>>103218054
>milked dry by giant fox lady while she stares you with the same facial expression the whole time

>>103218004
so are iems, and here we are

>>103218109
More or less the plan and i already know i prefer a (light) V sound signature and foam tips for isolation in particular.

>>103218146
tldr get an artti t10 as cheap as you can on aliexpress

Everything in this hobby starts making sense when you realize people don't actually hear what they're saying. Even if you're a reviewer that heard hundreds of items you're no better than a random student, and infinitely worse than someone that merely trained to identity peaks and dips, at telling whether the same IEM actually sounds the same, you just hallucinate a difference anyway.

>>103218172
Projection

>>103218193
Scientifically proven.

I have a headphone and a headphone amp.

Can you recommend a good USB DAC for PC within a $100 budget?

>>103218300
Moondrop Dawn Pro

>>103218300
SMSL PS200

>>103218330
>for PC

Retard.

>>103218379
Apple dongle.

linear phase fast roll-off dual CS43131 measures with impeccable SNR, THD, jitter, noise, etc. and is summit-fi endgame that DAC-AMP enthusiasts could only only dream of years ago

>>103218405
>linear phase
Trash.

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>>103218370
Beware.

>>103218300
>I have a headphone and a headphone amp
I'm sorry.

>>103218004
I haven't seen headphones with fox faceplates so they aren't solved.

>>103218379
You don't need anything more than that.

>>103218391
Retard.
>>103218478
Speak for yourself.
>>103218438
That sucks. Haven't tested my shit on Linux.

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>>103218494
>coping audiofool

>>103218494
Whatever you end up picking will have more issues than apple dongle. Don't say I didn't warn you.

is there a way to get more volume out of an apple dongle on android besides paying for UAPP

>dentie is gonna overpay for some noisy, bulky brick because it's marketed as for his "desktop," and has a knob he can twist (ofc he likes twisting knobs)
lol
lmao

>>103218526
downloading hibymusic
not paying for uapp

>>103218507
Shut up retard.
>>103218509
I've already made my pick. I don't need advice. I'm giving advice to others so they can have a good experience like I do.
>>103218531
No knob on the PS200, retard. Concession accepted.

Chud II or Gato?

Hot take: I prefer a DAC/AMP with a physical volume knob at my PC. Don't have to worry my OS or some other program will blow my eardrums out, and by keeping the system volume at 100% it doesn't affect recording/screen sharing volume and I can still adjust the output volume.

>>103218622
there's literally nothing "hot take," about that. you're a retard if you cope like the other guy thinking he's buying some kind of superior desktop product

>>103218572
clogged & patina'd nozzle versus cheap plastic

>>103218689
>superior desktop product
I never said anything about superiority you mouth-breating retard cunt. I just said I prefer ones that have a knob and their own volume regulation for my PC. Consider going back to primary school if basic reading comprehension is out of your fucking scope you crayon munching faggot.

dentie malding and delusional as per usual. sad

unfortunately, we have been witnessing this on repeat since 2$ buds surpassed dentpos several years ago

>>103218716
Don't forget the paint bubbles.

>>103218733
nta but you're clearly the retard that cannot read. he said your take is not hot and is very obvious and what everyone likes about amps. he's saying you're a retard if you, like the other anon, think somehow you're getting something 'superior' audio wise for desktop use

>>103218689
You lost.
>>103218622
That's fine but you don't need volume control on the DAC because your amps will always have it.

any good iems?

>>103218863
A desktop dac is in fact superior to your gay little dongle, retard. Just because you're a low IQ normalfag doesn't mean that the rest of us don't need the extra features.

>>103218914
Lmao so predictable >>103218742

>>103218960
Ok retard.

>>103218622
>Hot take: I prefer
That's not how takes work, dentie.
Real hot take: amps don't need knobs. Only DACs. Software volume control is always more precise than hardware.

>>103218887
Hence why I said DAC/AMP. A dongle is also a DAC/AMP, but it only has digital controls, or relies on software controls, so I wouldn't use one at my PC, as I prefer that knob. Even if a DAC/AMP had it's own volume control, it'd rely on buttons that only make sense for a mobile device, so I'd rather pay extra for a desktop DAC/AMP with a volume knob even if I'd be getting the same audio quality.

>>103218863
Now please show me where I said I am getting a superior audio experience with a desktop amp. You won't, because I didn't say it. I only talked about the volume control, yet (You) strawmanned the superior audio argument out of your ass like a fucking preschooler.

bro just make /hpg/...

>>103218988
>Software volume control is always more precise than hardware
1) Software volume control will always be limited to 100 steps, and on mobile devices it's even lower. Unless you want to fiddle with Equalizer APO and add unnecessary complexity to your audio stack. Or have separate volume controls of your system and media player, then forget which was which and blast your ears out when you had your system volume cranked up but your player volume cranked down.
2) Software volume control influences software, and can be influenced by software, which should not be the case. System volume at 100, output volume on the device.

>>103218991
>Hence why I said DAC/AMP
Oh yeah I didn't notice. I don't think an amp without volume control exists anyways. Ones without knobs do, but those have buttons or remote controls and that's just trash.
>A dongle is also a DAC/AMP, but it only has digital controls, or relies on software controls, so I wouldn't use one at my PC
Correct.

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>>103218908
EPZ G10 + custom faceplate

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>>103219033
>confusing OS volume with software volume

The only good advice I've seen itt is anon suggesting the jm-1 eq target.

>>103219074
FUVKING KEK

>>103218991
and you still cannot read. he literally said you would be coping if you think you're getting something superior, but you did not say that, so as for now you aren't coping. you just took complete offense cause you thought he was insulting you when he was backhanding the other anon.

>>103219068
Can confirm that there are at least 4 good IEMs.

>>103219074
I am talking about software side volume control versus hardware side volume control, not the way the volume itself gets regulated. If you want to get pedantic about definitions, so be it. It's not called volume, it's the electric current that's being regulated. I win, you lose, cope seethe and so on.

>>103219113
Name one.

>musicolet
>wavelet EQ
>F**O KA15 (only because of the case, otherwise fuck F**O, fuck their app, and fuck their EQ not working)
>Sliivo SL-41 (although the new Pula Anvil and Myer CKLVX D62 are gonna be better)

Overall I'm cooking and I'm eating and I'm satisfied.

>>103219095
QoL and extra features translate to getting a superior experience.

>>103219127
>I am talking about software side volume control versus hardware side volume control, not the way the volume itself gets regulated
Then you're dyslexic retard. Both the amp knobs and the DAC knobs are on the "hardware side" but one is objectively better.

>>103219128
Isabelle IEM.

>>103219177
fox fucker...

>>103219077
it's not a target it's a pop avg DF
why is it so hard for retards to understand that

>>103219241
Actually it's just bad.

How many iems do you all own? Do you use them all for different things?
Are the leftovers just in storage or do you sell them? Doesn't seem like a robust used market for them, at least the cheaper ones.

>>103219343
1
no, just to listen to music
no storage I use it daily

>>103219343
I used to own over 20 mid-fi pos before I snapped out of it and sold of them. Now I'm just auditioning as many summit-fi pos as possible to grasp the current ceiling of the hobby.

>Doesn't seem like a robust used market for them
A used market definitely exists, once you drop the price low enough, DMs will come.

>>103219427
What would you consider to be summit-fi?

So how exactly do I get one of those custom faceplate Fox IEMs?

>>103219481
Epz official store on aliexpress, ask the seller.

>>103219343
I own like 30 pairs, it's way too much. I'll get around to selling some of them once I'm done but for now I'm still looking for a super bassnigger set. Might pick up the nightjar duality if it comes to a US store, I don't trust chinkaporeans.

>>103219343
Sold 4 well known ones that were fully reduntant in my collection. About 20 remain. 1 in use (endgame).

>>103219475
I'm assuming you mean in terms of audio reproduction and not price:
1. PMG Apx SE (and non-SE)
2. STORM (unfortunately there isn't anymore demo units left)
3. Elysian Anni 2021/2023

>>103218622
I mentioned something related to this in the stupid questions general, and I still don't understand how this works. I replaced my DAC (old one broke) and kept the same headphones. I noticed, however, that even at full volume (system wise and on the DAC) the it was significantly quieter than my old one. I didn't rebuy my old one because it was out of stock at the time. Anyway, here is where my confusion comes in: I got fed up with videos that were supposed to be loud playing at basically conversational volumes with everything maxed out on my end. So, I downloaded a plugin for Firefox that allowed me to adjust the volume of the browser above the 100% set by both the system and the browser and it worked perfectly. Not even a case where the audio quality (from what I could perceive) was degraded until I got it up to around 300% and at that point it was entirely too loud for anything. My confusion is where the disconnect comes from. At first I thought maybe the new DAC was just shit and not able to power my cans (but they are cheap and nothing crazy), and then I thought it was the system artificially "throttling" the volume levels but now that I have seen I can just unironically turn it up to 11 and hear quite the profound difference in how loud the audio is... I don't know what to think. Would replacing my DAC with a different one alleviate the problem or do you think my actual issue is with the system placing arbitrary limits on how loud shit can play?

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>>103219206
Isabelle is a dog, and dogs are much cuter than stinky foxes. Don't @ me

>>103219739
CUTE

>>103219735
The problem is headphones. I never use over 30% on IEMs.

>>103219343
50-60 and a bunch of TWS.
If they come with a case i store them in that otherwise i have a bunch of cheap zip cases for the other ones.

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>>103219739
Dog cannot compete.

>>103219772
I, unfortunately, can't use IEMs for prolonged periods of time and regular daily use. They cause significant pain. Maybe if I paid out for a custom set of molds for my ears that wouldn't be an issue, but I'm not really much in the mood to cough up the sort of money for that. I just want shit to be louder and not spend a lot of money to fix my issue.

>>103219522
Which ones are the endgame ones? Q1 Pro/G10? (whats the difference?)

>>103219556
Do you plan to consolidate your 30 iem collection into a few select kilopos?

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>>103219141
Avoid fiio products.

>>103219921
G10 has more stuff in the box, q1 pro is cheaper and has q1 pro written on it, the IEM is the same. Some say one of them is slightly smaller, haven't noticed.

>>103219795
>TWS
A patrician I see. What's your go to?

>>103219963
how much extra does the custom faceplate cost?

>>103219977
*A faggot

>>103219933
Not exclusively kilopos but that's the plan.

Reminder that TWS is offtopic

>>103219980
It costs as much as g10.

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>>103219977
Airpods

>>103219950
Too late, I already got cooked. I was gonna buy their new CD player too, but then I said nah fuck them they can suck this dick instead. They still haven't fixed the website control app for the KA15 DAC and their phone app wants location and nearby devises permissions. Fuck that. I don't even know why I fell for the extra features on the KA15, when you can EQ on your phone.

>>103219950
>cute cover
>ear rape track
Jebaited.

is ta-66 <$200 worth it?

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>use iem
>earhole gets tired and begins to hurt
>use headpos
>ear gets tired and begins to hurt
>can't use speakers because of the obscene weeb shit I listen to

>download two different EQs
>they sound the same

Insane.

>>103220267
Why so weak.

>>103220267
Stop using iem with giant shell (almost every above $100 pos)

>>103220270
>he "downloads" EQs
It's over.

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>>103220267
Use boolet iem

the only advice worth listening to?
read the eq guide

>>103220267
What headphones hurt your ears? Never heard of someone having trouble with beyerdynamic pads

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>>103220381
Listen only to real music.

I dont need EQ when I have brain burn-in

>>103220506
There's no brain burn in, you just ruin your ears.

comfort>looks>boxart>sound(optional)

>>103220267
I can't use iems for long because my holes get tired. You should just get comfortable headphones that you can wear all day though. Like some Beyers or the Sash Tres SE.

>>103219735
Nobody will be able to answer your question without you specifying the DACs and headphones in question.
>Not even a case where the audio quality (from what I could perceive) was degraded until I got it up to around 300%
Not unusual for there to be some digital headroom left.

I've got a Krila for over an year now. What the fuck am I suppose to upgrade it to?

>>103220267
get spinfit tips

Reminder that foxes irl smell nasty and overall gross.

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reminder that the Harman curve is peak and sounds great

>>103220848
>bass player
>harman scoop
Ryou...

>>103220795
Not him but I wanted those and they've been sold out for months.

>>103221070
Amazon has it

>>103221094
I don't fuck with amazon.

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Cheapest Thieaudio worth?

Anyone have insight on a good (or at least the best) wireless IEMs or are they all bad?

>>103221961
underrated but lacks treble extension

IEMs do not sound nearly as good as LCD-5 or Moondrop Cosmo with proper EQ

>>103221991
something smells funny...

>>103221991
that's about the level yeah, and DCA Stealth. otherwise nah

>>103221993
saar do not redeem

Aight anons, should I get fake ie900 for $50 or real ie200 for $100?

>>103222105
fake ie900 if you have a coupler desu, that ie200 has the worst cable ive seen since 2016

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>>103222105
here's your ie900 bro
seriously get the Artti T10 with that money

>>103222105
>>103222112
if you get the fake, you're getting a bottom barrel tws driver. not the real one. yes, chang is lying with fake pictures and fake graphs.

>>103222139
no shit, still a decent option if anon is looking for shitheiser fit and is willing to eq

>>103222112
You can always replace cables.

>>103222150
no, he should just get that one $5 plastic mmcx pos

>>103222158
that's an added cost and frankly annoying task considering shitheiser's mmcx fuckery
>>103222160
are we thinking about the same one? i concur, any of those or shure clones will be a better purchase imo

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fucking earbud fags lmao

>>103222240
nobass is considered acceptable by speakerfags though >>103215152

>>103222296
i was referring to the fucked up resonances, speakerfags have subs and room acoustics to deal with, earbudfags have no options

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>>103222240
umm wtf. block? more like goat

>>103222296
with room gain those Kef play down to 40 Hz
you're retarded if you think that's nobass and comparable to earbuds that start rolling off above 100 Hz

iems to compensate for my lack of schizophrenia?

Techs are stored inside your schizophrenia so you will be missing out on that.

>>103222763
Buy something so expensive you awaken the voices of buying regret and placebo.

I have invented something so great it will change the world of audio

>>103222004
the stealth is not good. small driver closed back

>>103221991
LCD-5 is made for very tiny heads, unusable. Haven't tried cosmo.

>>103222763
Reecho insects awaken.

>>103222962
LCD-5 is designed for normal people

I believe Audeze accepts requests to give a headband adjusted for larger heads

>>103222984
Google LCD-5 clamp, get 6 gorillion results. An extremely common complaint.

>>103222412
Your kefs have 100% THD in subbass. That's solid in nobass territory.

>>103222997
I use them and they fit great

>>103223052
Why did you buy that pos...

does noise cancelling work well? if so, what iem have strongest noise cancelling? or would headphones be better? theyre renovating at my office and i need them so i can focus on work with loud ambient noise like drilling and hammering. google recommends sony xm5 or bose qc ultra

i appreciate all advice

>>103223252
saar you know the reason saar

>>103223831
I know CEO of Audeze is Indian, is there any other reason? Also lmaoing at shartur going bald as soon as he put on headpos.

>>103223877
hint: pajeets act like kikes

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>>103215152
my $70 5" speakers have more bass extension than that

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>>103224002
i misspoke, they are 4"

>>103223732
Go with xm5
If only Sony focus on iem...

>>103222763
BC pos to inject the voices directly in your cochlea

>>103224189
enjoy your bone cancer nigga

>>103222305
Ya that’s not bad about as good as you’re gonna get with non-isolating buds.At least until bone conduction becomes a viable option
DSP is really something.

i'm hoping the autistic german gods at sennheiser will accept my tenuous HD 800 S RMA and repair the black paint blemishes on my pair and potentially replace it with a new clean pair because of a slightly creaky headband. fingers crossed. i can't stand to see them scuffed up from my neglect

holy shit we are being raided by headpos tourists

>why is hpg down??
because you skull dented freaks are too lazy to make valuable threads and your transducer of choice is fucking garbage
here you go you retarded troglodytes
>>103224894

>>103224896
show it to 'em sis

>>103224168
i decided to just go with earmuffs. i looked into anc and it seems to be mostly a meme. earmuffs + iem underneath seem to be much cheaper and more effective

>>103224973
3M peltor are dope, you can do any bullshit and not hurt your ears

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>SEA niggers already have bnnuy

>>103224973
>>103225025
Wait... you can use an iem with it?

>>103215003
>tube
>for an iem
how much volume control can you even get, at 8 o'clock position would be enough to get hearing damage

>>103225142
>implying it would need more than 2o'c worth of power

>>103225092
you can wear glasses and sneak in IEM cables, especially just for casual use like blocking ambient noise. if you need maximum protection you can get extra thicc ones and use gel ear pads to get a better seal.

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will I get chinked again? place your bets

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>>103225079
:D

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>>103216967
>aigis

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>>103225142
seems there's a special output for IEMs and high sensitivity headpos, but idk how it actually measures

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>>103223018
>lying
>on the internet
kys
>everything not flat to 20 Hz is nobass
EQ your pos with a 40 Hz high pass and you'll hear how little of a difference it makes with most music, even bassy music. If you think that's remotely comparable to earbud pos that can't even play 100 Hz, you have hearing damage.

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>>103225264
Sub-bass is up to 70 Hz, dumb mongoloid.

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>>103224002
>50 dB
Lol, that's barely above the threshold of hearing at 50 Hz. Try playing them at louder and see what happens.

>>103225281
it's a joke for anons with 10+ year old computers and 20 year old speakers to act like they know shit about music production. you're crippled by not hearing the subbass and harmonic overtones properly.

i think a really obvious example is that this has far less analog distortion, it feels dull and lifeless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=At8v_Yc044Y

compared to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_kF4zLNKio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbEoRnaOIbs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vzo-EL_62fQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9K8-3PHZOU

but wanna be music producer anons don't even get those obvious examples, they think the songs all suck

>>103225187
how is it, sis??!?

>>103225225
>says I'm lying
>proves me right
I don't know what you wanted to achieve here but keep seething.

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>>103220025
Me too! Best purchase I have made this year!

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>>103225770

any thoughts on the cadenza4? thinking of getting it

>>103225187
What is that keychain thing?

Does anyone ITT own the HiBy R1 and can comment on how responsive/accurate the screen is? I'm looking to replace an old Sansa Fuze (the shit one with the touch controls) whose battery finally stopped holding a charge and gets awful audio crackling. I always hated the unresponsive inaccurate controls on this piece of shit though although I'm aware the touchy technology isn't the same.

>>103225344
We only listen to real music here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_tzu3ZDMe4

>>103226206
the one anon that has it said it's quite smooth, there are also videos that show how it responds and it looks good overall

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Serious qn: What's the optimal number of summit-fi IEMs?

Thinking of starting a collection again but I'm afraid of overconsooming.

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>>103220819
Blatant anti-fox propaganda.

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>>103225187

>>103226674
>What's the optimal number of summit-fi IEMs?
If you're talking about summit-fi in terms of price, then ideally none. They are often plagued by flaws, whether it be strange tuning choice, bad ergonomics, lackluster QC, and more.
If you really want to get a collection of good sounding stock (ie no EQ) IEMs, then there is no need to go for super expensive sets. Everything above $1500 starts veering off into a twilight zone of oddities.
>Thinking of starting a collection again but I'm afraid of overconsooming.
The way you're thinking of price and collections shows that it's too late. To break out of consumerism is to gain knowledge and self-awareness of yourself and IEMs.

>>103226674
0. They're all trash.

>>103226674
lol imagine trying to discuss summit fi here
a single summit fi is worth more than the average thirdie's yearly salary

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>>103226723
HOLY FUCK SISTAS WE CAN NEVER LOSE!!!

I've never seen any other hobby where the cheapest option is perfect and all upgrades are defined by how far they're from perfection.

>>103226785
>12kHz rape peak compared to the other poses
The bnnuy is doa

>Deuce Shitting Update
Fatfreq resorting to age old chink tactics of fake shipping numbers and excuses now lol.
Some customers got a "tracking number," over 40 days ago. It never moves.
Now they send an email that they "mislabeled the magnets inside as batteries. So it's a shipping issue."
What a pathetic bold face lie. Oh and they scammed early pre-orders by simply not sending the promised ~$1-cost-to-make goodies. I'm content never giving these guys business again.

>>103226864
Should be a mandatory experience for everyone buying a collab. You people never learn.

>>103226785
>>103226817
And total garbage bass wtf

>>103226907
That's just Tanchijm bass in general.

>>103226894
I have a Scarlet Mini, passed on Deuce (even if from a different retailer). Just reporting summary of the current shitshow

>>103226919
and it's not even the whole report really. they have had like 5 other previous excuses for all the shit going wrong lol

Best sounding IEM for around 100 dollars?

>>103226949
Truthear Nova

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I'm stuck between Letshuoer A08 and Kefine Klean.

...ok I already bought the Klean but it's not going to be here for another week or two. I just got an Amazon gift card, the S08 is available through Amazon Prime and I've never heard a planar before. I'm treble sensitive and generally prefer warm-tilted IEMs, hence my avoidance of planars up to this point but the S08 looks very interesting and is exactly the value of my gift card ($100).

Bought the Klean due to not having bought into an IEM meme since the Tripowin Mele and I fucking broke one of those. You can't buy them anymore and I felt they were comfortable and good for laid back listening. The Klean seems to be similar in the low end but has more detail in the treble (something I did find lacking in the Mele), but the S08 is just very interesting to me. Looks nicer, too.

I guess the Klean is coming my way anyway as I'm not going to even attempt the nightmare that would be initiating a return to Aliexpress, but what's the /iemg/ verdict on the Letshuoer S08?

>>103226963
I feel like you’re lying to me.

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This shit was so fucking bad lol.

>>103226995
hows that?

>>103226965
>verdict on the Letshuoer S08?
It very much fills the niche for warmer, non-offensive planar. Sounds like your expectations are aligned. I liked them when I demo'd. The shell is a bit big and non-ergonomic, but tolerable and not the worst.

>>103226965
>what's the /iemg/ verdict on the Letshuoer S08?
decent letshuoer offering. warm tuning with early ear gain results in a laidback, vocal forward sound with decent bass. get it if you want a decent (not great by any stretch) set that won't offend
i personally preferred the p20 for that same type of sound

>>103225185
>not their official store
yep you're cooked chat

>>103226864
How are these singaporean companies so bad? Linsoul of all places got me my tea pro in 4 days.

>>103227045
according to my research that is one of their official stores
if you go on "Fiio Official Store" then go to the store home page then scroll down to their BTR17 ad it links to the "Fiio Audio Store"
I don't know why they keep some of their listing separate like that

>>103225185
>>103227081
It will arrive fine you just will hate the device.

>>103227078
Seachinks think they're full first worlders and feel smug and pretentious about it, but can't shake off their thirdies tendencies.

fresh bread >>103227103

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>>103227099
damn, what will I hate about it?

>>103227128
It's fiio. Expect half of the shit to straight up not work.

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>>103227146
but firmware updates will fix it right?

>>103227128
>>103227185
ignore the shitposters, i have the k11 r2r, ka13 and q15 and they work perfectly since the day i bought them

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Harman target sounds good
Fiio makes great products

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I want comfort. What IEMs do I get between the Moondrop May or the EPZ Q1? (other suggestions accepted)

Some IEMs i've used ranked on comfort:
Aria 8/10 (shape was great, metal sucked)
Kiwi Ears Forteza 9/10 (shape was basically perfect but I felt like I had to turn the volume way up to listen to them)
Cadenza 4/10 (they don't fit like I want them to and they're uncomfortable)
Sennheiser IE 100 Pro 5/10 (feels like they go in way too deep and cause discomfort and the plastic material they use on the shell fucking sucks)
Tangzu Fudu 7.5/10