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1st for morandis

>>103211090
I got Morandis and TTC Frozen v2 batches coming in soon, not sure yet what I'll prefer for my current keeb
Also anybody with experience on the ergo keyboard "dygma defy"? Undecided about it, mostly due to price

>>103211121
>43g bottom out on the frozen v2
Man that's crazy light.
Nah, the only ergo boards I've used are an ergodox and the dactyls I build now. I wouldn't want to go back to a flat board after using curved keywells to be honest.

>>103211090
Is it even possible to use this type of keyboard and not be an incel?

>>103211161
The curved keywell thing is something I've never had the chance to try, but I've been basically hesitating between the Defy and the Glove80 because everybody

>>103211090
if anything the keyboard crowd is pretty soft and about "community" (socials, discords, open source contributions, etc)
And many people will be interested in these things because of strain or injuries. Generally they're devs though (which leads to the repetite strain)

>>103211248
What are you talking about? That keyboard is designed to make your hands accustomed to spreading cheeks.

>>103211272
forgot to finish my sentence.. I'm interested in the glove80 because everybody claims it's the best comfort of all keyboards

>>103211272
Curved keywell is the true path imo. I'm also selling a dactyl with lubed U4Ts in case you're interested.

>>103211090
Can I play vidya on this stuff?

>>103211507
Sure, why not. At worst you'll either need to rebind shit in game for esdf instead of wasd, or make a vidya layer in the keymap that shifts wasd over.

i spilled a beer on my monoprice keyboard and it broke and now I'm using a 20 year old dell membrane keyboard that I had in my basement
it had a bunch of spiderwebs and shit on it
and an actual spider appeared on my desk
this shit is filled with spiders guys

they've got more typface monospaces
https://typface.com/products/monospace

I'm using one rn, little bit of case ping I need to get rid of but otherwise a nice board. Get some of those Geon case ping pads if you order one of these*

*I haven't tried using them on this board yet but they worked very well on a different board

>>103211090
What’s a moranis?
>>103211121
IMO you’d probably be better off with a glove80. Also look into the cyboard imprint (wireless version coming soon) and the svalboard
>>103211507
Yeah I use my glove80 for gaming. A neat bonus is that you can put the right half to the side and save even more space

looking to take advantage of 11.11 on aliexpress, you guys ever bought ali kits? I'm planning to build a split ergo board. I'm currently using a 60% with boba u4t's.
>ps what are le besk silent switches so I don't piss my girl off while she sleeps

should I go for a sofie 58 key if switching from standard 60% to a split ergo? I want to go down to 40-38 like a corne, but I was thinking going split, ortholinear it might be too much to go straight to so many layers, but idk maybe it'd be better to change it all at once

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How did aviator-style USB cables become a thing for keyboards?

>>103212714
Rick Moranis, you might recognize him from the classic comedy Spaceballs™

>>103213194
Looks more steampunk. They don’t know what it is.
Might as well use PS/2 or DIN.

Funny how USB was originally designed for things like keyboards but it couldn’t even fucking do that properly, so now it’s designed for powering things with expensive USB C bricks and $40 cables.
Pathetic.

Funny how I'd be the type to be all-in on something like the Hyper 7 with the amount of extra keys it has, but I'd still not buy it just because it doesn't adhere to the 104-key ANSI layout.

Everyone's muscle memory is tuned to the 104-key ANSI layout, stop fucking with it.

>>103206342
yeah oryx wanted me to use keymapp or someshit and it never detected my planck, but it was showing up in qmk toolbox. i also used amtel FLIP or whatever to try and flash the microcontroller but it was kill as well.
>>103204654
i'm not an orthotranny, it was a free keyboard and i accepted so i can fuck around with it, i am a staggered layout chad though, and it's not that i'm shit with software it's just that i really just wanted to make my layout using someone else's tools and just flash it to the board, but it looks like i need to do it the tedious way.

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need some diy tips for dampening a spacebar

>>103211280
I really like my glove80. Does dygma defy even have an open firmware? If not, I personally wouldn't even consider it for that reason. Glove80 uses ZMK.

>>103213603
bandaids where the spacebar makes contact with the shell, or on the inside of the key. the material of the bandaid is key, dont use those plasticy cheap bandaids, get ones that are cotton, or bamboo, fabric, gauze, that type, cut pieces to your needs and test it out / adjust. if you have lube, lubricating the wire and contacts are huge sound dampeners.
also you could replace your keycap entirely if you have the means. wooden spacebars are kino.

>>103213603
I've heard that jelly tape inside a spacebar does a good job

>>103213138
I can't speak on split keyboards, but as for switches, get outemu cream yellow for the cheapest shit you can get that still feels good, boba U4 if you want to spend a bit more, and I've also heard good things about gateron gecko and lichicx lucy.

>>103213311
i figured it out in the end, made a couple layers including one where i can control the mouse directions and buttons top kek

>>103213841
>>103213970
thanks

I was looking at Keychron's lineup and I think the K2 Max suits my needs pretty well. It looks like a good combination of having all the keys I need without leaving anything important out and maintaining a narrow profile and intuitive layout. It's a decent price too but I figured I'd ask, is there an alternative I should consider if I like the layout, or a reason why I should consider a different layout?

Also I know fuck all about their switches but this model offers the Keychron Super Red/Brown/Banana. I'm guessing the reds and browns have similar specs as same colored Cherry switches which suits me fine since I've always used Cherry browns. Does anyone have any experience with/opinions about them relative to the big names?

>>103216541
There are loads of 75% boards around. Even Keychron has boards like the V1, Q1, K3 and their variants in addition to the K2. I think V-series boards are just plain better than the high profile K-series like the K2 max. V1 max is cheaper than the K2 max, but it is also gasket mounted with no apparent downsides. The decorative screwed on aluminum strips of the K2 aren't enough to compensate

halp

>Budget
Less than $300.
>Location (continent at least)
USA
>Preferred switch type
I haven't used anything new in a very long time. I used to use Cherry Greens though because I type very hard. Whatever is akin to this would be cool, if there is something better these days. The Enthusiast image is neat, but it means nothing to me besides the feeling.
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
100% or 80%. If it's 100% then the TK has to be on the left side.
>Backlight
I don't need RGB glowie stuff, but lighting that allows me to read my keys at night would be nice. Not a deal breaker, just a nice thing to have. Same with potentially having a built-in hub, it's not required, but would be nice.
>Previous/current keyboards
I am currently using a Das because I couldn't be assed to deal with the process of looking into how much had changed since I last purchased a keyboard and before that, it was a Ducky.

>>103216741
Checking them out now, thanks. It's so weird that so many of these omit the end key. I really like the vertical pgup/pgdn/home/end layout. It's baffling that so many of these lose end but keep insert, a key I can't remember ever hitting deliberately despite decades of computer use.

i decided to keep my 65% white keyboard instead of selling it and getting a black one

>>103216912
>It's so weird that so many of these omit the end key
I tend to agree, as I use end and home all the time. These are QMK/VIA compatible boards however, so you can easily configure the layout to your liking

>>103217192
That's fair. I'm sure I could find something to my liking. If it's going to lack one I'd almost rather it omit both home and end so I could have them both map symmetrically to something though.

They have so many variants though, sheesh. It's a little tricky to keep straight what's better than anything else or why. I like having options but this is giving me decision paralysis.

>>103216846
I think the biggest changes in the last ten years or so have been the proliferation of hot-swap sockets and easy configurability, as well as the massive selection of switches available.

Is there something in particular that you would like to improve when compared to your old board? I moved from a Das to a Keychron two years ago, and I have the numpad on the left side. My motivation was mostly that I wanted to try something new though, the DK4 still works fine

If you like cherry greens, you might want to test switches like Kailh box navies.

>>103217471
Not particularly, I was just thinking that I could use a TK and my Das is almost four years old at this point. Thanks for the suggestion.

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Does Keychron usually have sales on black friday?

>>103217746
Depending on what you want they have some models on sale right now

>>103217768
Q6, but it's not on sale at the moment.

>>103213603
putting a little bit of felt under the spacebar has helped with hollowness for me, but you have to keep cutting it smaller until it no longer fucks with the alphas because if you cut it too big your xcvbnm,. will sound 'off'

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thoughts?

>>103218461
looks like it would cause blisters and nailbed delamination

>>103218461
not lindy

>>103218378
inbetween the spaces of the switches stuck onto underneath in the middle of the bar?

>>103218606
no I meant under the pcb

I just bought a Lucky65 V2
Say something nice about it

I just bought a V1 Max from Scamazon and everything works but the the left arrow key isn't working. I tried a different switch and it still doesn't register. Am I fucked?

>>103218946
I would have waited and got a brutal 65 v2 for $99 when the cannonkeys sale starts

>>103219174
Is the $99 deal a full build or barebones?
I got the Lucky65 V2 for ~56USD and already have switches.
Being a leaf, I'd bet the shipping cost from Cannonkeys would have killed any sort of deal vs free shipping from AliEx.
Still, that Brutal 65 v2 looks like a great deal for burgerbros

>>103219104
>Scamazon
send it back for a new one

any cheap plastic 60% kb with south facing led's?

what is the best 80% keyboard with *somewhat* silent, tactile, and medium resistance switches under 350$?

>>103219362
barebones

>>103219362
>leaf
yeah you'd provably be adding $60+ for shipping/duties/etc. But if they have nicepbt sale and switch sales at the same time maybe it ends up being worth

Is there such a thing as a perfect, already usable keyboard out of the box which you don't need to customize or change anything about it?
I really don't want to bother with putting in keys to the board or messing with switches or any of that crap, I just want to buy something that will get me perfection while being lazy.

>>103220393
"Perfection" is impossible to know until you use a keyboard and figure out what flaws it is (or lack thereof)
But yes, there's tons of pre-built boards from a number of companies (like Keychron). It's just a matter of picking what you (think) you like in terms of switch type and aluminum body vs plastic body

>>103220429
Okay, what switches do you prefer?

>>103220393
Keychron's Q Max line is a dead ringer imo. I really like their selection of pre-lubed Gateron Jupiter switches, keycaps are decent, has a knob, hot swappable, they already tape mod, and gasket mount the board before you receive it. Has a battery if that's your thing and full aluminum

>>103220465
I like lubed linear switches (cheapo Gateron Yellows are fine to me) and click-bar switches like Kailh Box Jades

>>103220486
>>103220429
Out of these two keyboards which do you think is better, or neither and I should just keep looking?

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-q3-max-qmk-via-wireless-custom-mechanical-keyboard?variant=40766137565273

https://www.keychron.com/products/lemokey-l1-qmk-via-wireless-custom-gaming-keyboard?variant=40774740770905

>>103220591
Q3 Max

>>103220393
luminkey makes some. Qwertykeys Evo80 also. Some other examples. None are entirely perfect, but then, what is?

doesnt make sense to ghave more than 2 keyboards

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>>103210983
>buy pic related because its cheap and lightweight to be comfortable placing on my laptop
>3 months later
>'g' button sticks and sometimes needs 3 presses before registering

I should really stop skimping on keyboards but I've burned through 3 $100+ keyboards in the last 2 years and I don't want to do it again

>>103221110
>placing on my lap*

so hear me out
i get a q11 so i can sit back in my chair with it in my lap and still have room to keep my boner pointing straight up unobstructed so i can give it a little tug now and then while i'm typing
has anyone done this? does the cable connecting the halves get in the way?

>>103220799
why?

>>103221072
what about when you already own 4 and want to feel the excitement of buying another keyboard

>>103221423
Out of the two posted the Q3 max has overall better build quality

Is there a hierarchy of product lines or something? The prices are all over the place so I can't tell anything from that

>>103221485
Okay, I looked at a few more. Do either of these beat the Q3 max?

https://www.qwertykeys.com/products/evo80?variant=46212766531827

https://www.wobkey.com/products/crush80?variant=45730678079723

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>>103221072
>1 at home (silent linears because home is peaceful)
>1 at work (clicky to annoy co-workers)
It just makes sense

>>103221543
Aula F75 if you want to go down the chinkshit rabbit hole
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007818084953.html

>>103221543
>>103221593
It'd be remiss of me not to mention that Aula F75 has a plastic body and is why it's cheap compared to the options you've already linked which have aluminum bodies

>>103221543
EVO80 looks nice although their return and refund policy look like complete ass. Buying from a large company like Keychron has the benefit of a more robust warranty

>>103221543
If you really need wireless, get the qwertykeys and buy an extra pcb for longevity.
If you don't need wireless, get geon frog. Aftermarket prices vary around $250 and probably best built out of all the shit you listed.

>>103221110
do you eat near your keyboard? What were the other two boards?

My last keyboard went 8 years being used every day before one key got spotty, then I replaced the switches and gave it away to someone, as far as I know it's still working.

>>103221639
Did you check whether you have any local vendor for the Evo80? (there is a vendor list on the product page). Usually your country's vendor will be much better to work with if there are problems.

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>>103210983
Got this maymay keyboard for $2
What am i in for?

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>>103221588
>not having a Model F with a massive, super empty custom sheet metal chassis + solenoid so it deafens your colleagues upon typing
Step it up.

>>103221873
Yes, the issue is it's all sold out or unavailable for the type i want.

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>>103216846
Your best bet is probably getting a TKL with a separate numpad and placing it on the left of it. The only full size southpaw that released recently was the Pangea and its group buy just ended a few days ago. The only other one I can think of is the Kangaroo, but it goes all in for left-handed people, picrel. It's also equally expensive and quite heavy too I think.
Since the other anon mentioned Keychron you might be able to snag their stuff on Amazon if it goes on sale in the next couple weeks during their Black Friday/Cyber Monday sales in a few days. Might even be worth checking the prices on their TKL and separate numpads now if you're interested.

>>103221536
product lines? tf you on about mane
start with your budget first, ask for recs in that budget. don't just look at prices only and expect that to be some kind of determining factor as to how quality something is.

most importantly, what do you already know? what's your current keyboard? what kind of feeling and sound do you want from your keyboard? what kind of layout? do you need to have meme lights? do you want a metal shell? do you want mx switches and keycaps? do you want to program your own layout? are you a touch typist? don't start out by just browsing prices and being retarded. do you have any interest in changing or modifying your keyboard or do you just want to buy something and then fuck off for 10 years without doing anything extra to it?

my blanket recommendation to noobs is keychron. out of all the boards in the poorfag bracke that'd be at the top of the hierarchy.

also if you find an expensive keyboard that you are enamored with, go see if you can't find a used one from a secondhand market like a r**dit or discord server.

alternatively you can buy the ugliest cheapest chinkshit keyboard you can find and just replace the keycaps and call it a day. it's your life.

>>103221967
getting laughed at

>>103221072
and what happens if you have more than two computers? what if they are for different things that require specific layouts and elements that are conducive to that specific use case?
why would it make sense to have more than one keyboard but not more than two?
what if you have a family and don't want your kids or wife using your nice expensive keyboard, is that what the second keyboard is for?
you want me to just carry my one keyboard from computer to computer? now my usb ports are fucked up.
what if you ressurect ewaste mech keyboards and document them for archival purposes to later donate to a computer museum or give away in a typing contest raffle?

>>103221536
not really just because products come and go so frequently.

Right now the best deals for noobs are:
Qwertykeys Evo80
Qwertykeys Neo boards (some assembly required)
Cannonkeys black friday sale boards, including 'mystery' builds for cheap and brutal v2 boards greatly reduced (some assembly required)
Keychron V max series
Luminkey pre-made boards
Hummingbird68 at clickclack (cheap hall effect board)
Monokei Standard on sale from Monokei
full copper 65% at geon.works for $609... good deal...
b-stock frog tkl also at geon.works (not $609, not made of copper)

maybe some other stuff idk

>>103223324
The real best deals are chinkshit prebuilts from AliExpress
Several of them have aluminum chassis and QMK/VIA support now

>>103223359
you think so

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any thoughts? my desk is too high to be ergo, ram mounts are sturdy and they have many options, I know they work because I use this gripping model to hold my phone while ripping shit up in my kawasaki

Are there HE switches that can be dropped into a hot swappable PCB or do I have to buy a whole new keyboard?

>>103224197
HE switches require an HE PCB. The actual hall effect sensor isn't in the switches themselves.

>>103223324
>Keychron V max series
I agree with everything, but one exception being that if you're considering something in the Keychron V series price range and want a 65%, 75% and TKL board then you're far better off with a Lucky65/SK65, SK75/Bridge75/Rainy75 or a GX87.
And the Aula F75 for $40 remains the ultra budget king in my opinion.

>>103224339
Actually might as well say that those Chinkshit boards I mentioned can replace the Keychron Q series as well.
I don't see a reason to get a Keychron Q1 in 2024 when you can just get an SK75 right now for $85

>>103223505
You would certanly have a unique keyboard setup.
Great thinkers don't follow others, chase your dreams and maybe you can set a trend. Or maybe not.

bump

>>103224339
yeah I would have mentioned the wobkey/shortcut/etc stuff but I don't keep up with which ones are available right this minute

>>103216846
>If it's 100% then the TK has to be on the left side.
typface monospace is this minus the f-row, there are extras available right now. I have one, it's good. Will put you a bit over budget though.

Luminkey98 is also not quite what you want—it's a 75% with a numpad that can go on the right or the left. It's not far off from what you're looking for unless you're really attached to the classic nav cluster

as the other anon mentioned, bowl pangea came and went already. It was way out of the budget anyway though.

So that leaves TKL. There are some good TKLs right now. If you stretch your budget just slightly you could get a Geon Frog. Board and PCB will eat the whole budget, then you need shipping, stabs, switches, caps... but it's a good board.

Or you could get a Neo80 and have a big leftover budget for gmk keycaps, meme switches, etc. Not gonna be the same caliber of board as the Geon and you'll have to wait a little. But it's pretty good for what you pay.

Comparable to Neo you can get a "Devastating TKL" mystery build from Cannonkeys for $90 when their black friday sale starts, that will come with all the parts you need to make a keyboard. You don't know what switches and caps they'll give you, though, so you might need to replace something.

of all these the neo is the only one that offers per-key rgb, and none will have a usb hub. As far as I know only AKB James is making boards with usb hubs right now. He's got a 60% group buy going at Cannonkeys, but it's a 60%, so...

>Budget
<$200, cheaper is better but not at a significant sacrifice to usefulness. I don't want to solder, but I'll do any other type of assembly.
>Location (continent at least)
AMERICA.
>Preferred switch type
I think this is the most important part for me. I do a LOT of typing (mostly programming) and a moderate amount of gaming (MOBAs/FPS). I think I want "linear" switches, as they seem like they'd stay out of the way, but I rally have no idea. Maybe those fancy Hall Effect things? I do not want to "lube" my keyboard.
>Layout
ANSI. Weird ergo stuff is fine.
>Form factor
80%+, NEED home/end/etc., numpad optional, extra FN keys would be nice.
>Backlight
I don't care, will just turn it if the keyboard has it.

I spend most of the day typing, so lifetime/reliability/efficiency are key. Thank you anonymoose.

>>103227020
Considering that you don't want to spend the whole budget, I think your best bet would probably be the GX87. The preorder version on their website ships next week.
Ranges from $90 to $140 depending on how fancy you want it to be. Has linear switches, but if you end up disliking them you'll have plenty of budget left to buy some new switches on Aliexpress.
https://www.mchose.store/products/mchose-gx87-aluminum-custom-mechanical-keyboard

>>103227020
Right now qwertykeys evo80 is the go-to prebuilt sub-200 tkl.

Lubing keyboards is done for sound mostly. It has never been absolutely required. Even the roughest unlubed switches will become very smooth through use eventually.

Linears or cherry brown style tactiles (almost linear) are both fine for gaming and typing. Even a light clicky like mx blues are OK as long as you can stand the noise. Very tactile switches and heavy clickies do get in the way a bit. Evo80 comes with linears which should be fine.

Hall effect isn't necessary, but if you want a hall effect board just for gaming there's one for $90 on clickclack.io, not TKL though.

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>>103227020
epomaker aula f99 would be my pick
its a 1800 layout (has numpad), factory modded with lots of foam and is gasket mounted. comes with pre lubed switches (too light for my liking) and keycaps (i dont like how they look).
i got one for my (normie) sister and was surprised when i opened it up and didnt have to do any modding. i couldve done a tape mod, but its wireless and has some cables that i didnt feel like interfering with. gonna get it for myself as well around christmas time when prices are down

>>103227353
...why did you post a pic of an unrelated board with no explanation

>>103227353
>gonna get it for myself as well around christmas time when prices are down
With the 11.11 sale it's on aliexpress right now for about $50.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006828012269.html

>>103228223
>rubber keyboard
can i gnaw on it?

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>>103223505
I would go for a magsafe option, I have seen a lot of people using that and everyone is saying it's sturdy enough. You just stick on the little magnetic ring, check out this https://www.evbart.com/a-simple-tenting-solution-for-ergonomic-keyboards/

>>103228223
>all the black ones are sold out
such is my luck, but thanks for this link my guy. i guess i can also jsut get it right now, amazon wouldve had similar prices anyway

>>103227992
lol its the only 1800 keyboard pic i have saved

I got a sticky liquid on my cherry mechanical keyboard and one of the keys is now broken. How do I repair it? Should I give? In which case what's the best keyboard to buy that is resistant to sticky liquids

>>103229076
desolder the switch, remove it, put in a new switch.

What you'll need:
a keycap/switch puller combo ($5)
a soldering iron ($10)
a solder sucker ($10)
a replacement switch ($5 for 10)
a small amount of leaded solder ($5)
a screwdriver and/or a guitar pick or similar object, depending on how your keyboard opens

Remove keycaps, open your board, disconnect the pcb from the daughter board if necessary/possible (not possible on all boards), get it to where you can access the bottom of the PCB. While doing all this take careful note of everything you're doing and in what order, because you'll have to reassemble it later. If you don't know how to disassemble your particular board, check YouTube, someone else may have done it.

Wipe off any sticky stuff.

Find the problem switch. Desolder both of its connections using your soldering iron and solder sucker. Do this on another less-important switch, like Pause/Break.

Flip the pcb/plate/switches assembly and use your switch puller to try to pull the switch. (look up correct technique if you don't know it. You need to press in the two little clips on the north and south faces of the switch.)

If you can't pull it (and don't use a lot of force here), it's probably still got some solder holding it in place. Add more solder and suck it out again. Some boards are a nightmare to get the solder out of, some are very easy. If you're not sure which pin is stuck see if you can wiggle one of them. If it can wiggle/bend a bit, the other pin is the stuck one.

Once you've got both switches out, throw out the problem one. Take one of your new switches and put it in pause/break or whichever less-used key you picked. Then put the old pause/break switch where the broken switch was. Push them in, flip it over and check the pins went through the holes correctly. Then use your solder and soldering iron to solder both pins to the pcb on both switches.

Now reassemble the board and check that the switches work. Hopefully you're done

>>103229279
nice, I've already got all of that except the replacement switch
will have a look online and see if I can find a replacement switch, but I want to confirm that the broken switch is the problem. Can I test this with a multimeter/oscilloscope (that I already have)?

>>103229654
If you remove the switch you can test by plugging in your keyboard while it's disassembled and seeing if sticking tweezers or something similar through both pin holes in the pcb causes a key press. This is how PCBs of new keyboards are tested before building

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does anyone have any experience with pic related?
currently testing the rog strix scope II and I don't really like it
>wrist rest is way too high
>96% layout sucks, all the keys are way too close together
>the shift key feels weird to press
it does sound reaaaally nice though and is nice to type on in stock
but the shift key and the crammed layout are a dealbreaker for me since I also use it for gaming

>>103221833
My last 2 keyboards were:
>Corsair K68 Cherry MX red switches
>Red dragon keyboard, can't remember what type

Its probably a switch problem with this new keyboard I have but I'm too nervous to do a switch replacement. I even looked under the keycap and there was no food

been looking forever for a decent keyboard
it seems impossible to find a good 75% or TKL with qwertz and pbt shinethrough that isn't >200 bucks
I'm too lazy to build my own
>>103230259
I've checked out RK, the keyboards seem to be decent for typing/sound but apparently QMK/VIA sucks or isn't supported and all their leds are south so you can't replace their non-shine caps

>>103231149
>too lazy to build my own
It's literally 30 minutes max of lego-like building. Are you a child?

>>103231608
the problem is I want northfacing RGB
pretty much all custom boards use southfacing for better compatibility
it seems that if you want tkl ISO and northfacing you have to buy some fully assembled known brand like corsair/asus/coolermaster
there is also the keychron k8

>>103231638
Ah you're an rgbfag. Nvm I cant help you.

>>103231917
I'm old and need my lit up keys at night

>>103231926
>>103231638
>>103231149
well I went for the V3 Max (don't need the higher quality case of the Q3) and the streetshitter M75 now (apparently royal kludge is Indian-made)
let's see which one survives
I wanted to go for an Akko first but apparently the switches they use in the 5075B are suuuuper shitty
3rd option was the MonsGeek M1W which I will go for if I don't like the first 2 ones

>>103231926
what's with all the people who don't own desk lamps? Why is everyone using their PC in the dark? Do they not know darkness causes biological stress?

>>103231926
>>103232310
The better question is why do people even need to look at their keycaps at all for typing? Don't you all know how to touch type at 90+ WPM?

>>103232310
>desk lamps
no one needs this to use a keyboard and mouse

>>103232521
>it's ok I don't need a desk lamp because my keyboard has lights in it
>h-halp guise why dont all the keyboards have lights in them? pls help me find one with lights that isn't prohibitively expensive!!
fucking imbecile

Why do you fags not know how to touch type?
You should be able to use your keyboard in the dark without LEDs or even legends on your keycaps

>>103232572
>>103232345
tbf unless you have tried using legendless caps you might not know how much you're being helped by the legends being visible. I tried black on black keycaps once and was surprised by how much I was occasionally glancing at the board to make sure my hands were where I thought they were

>>103232572
for me, a 34yo ISO-user, it's all the symbols on the numbers
the only thing I can 100% remember is $, &; % and brackets

>>103232572
i do, and got significantly faster at it when i switched to an hhkb. i was just talking to someone about that earlier today, how i realized most people with LED keyboards don't touch type and probably peck-type in the dark with their LEDS glowing through the keycaps. what a totally unkino way to live

>>103232615
i know not all keycaps have this and it isn't as effective in alternate layouts but that's what the home row bumps are to help with. homing your fingers to the right position. i find myself searching for them quickly instead of looking down at the keyboard.

i'm okay with legends, they're fine, i have some boards with them and some without, but when i was making custom layers and layouts, i printed them out and taped them to the wall above my monitor for quick reference, but something like a shortcut on your taskbar to some images of your layouts would suffice.

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yahoo auctions are stressful as fuck with that time extension bullshit. this was the cliffhanger moment. just 1k yen under my max bid. mind you this shit was at 90 bucks before the 10 min remaining mark. i was victorious in the end on my quest for some rare topre proto-hipro + vintage domes, but it's yet to be seen if this was retarded or kino. only time will tell.

>>103229654
before you go to the trouble of replacing the switch, get some isopropyl alcohol or board cleaner or something similar and flush the switch with it and a smalll syringe or if its in a pressurized can even better and whatever gunk is stopping it from working might work its way out, let it dry and you wont have to do anything. I've "fixed" a lot of different switches that stopped working this way over the years

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I've decided to buy into the left handed numpad meme, lets see if this is any good.
In theory having a numpad, knob and macros on my left hand should be great.

Where should I look for replacement keycaps? The first few google results seem outrageously expensive and only available in American.

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i dont really like 2 tone coloured keycaps but i cant take my eyes off of this one. i have 2 white keyboard and i was gonna do white on white for both of them, but idk maybe my second one should be a fun keyboard

>>103232572
I always want key caps without legends and home row bumps but they are never offered when I buy a keyboard.

>>103236682
I meant without legends and with home row bumps

>>103236500
If you just want something cheap but passable, go to Aliexpress.
KBDiy store or Womier are fine for doubleshot, Yong Qiu does decent dye sub keycaps but avoid the doubleshot ones because they're dogshit and look like that old meme WheRe pEopLe TypEd lIke THiS.
https://kbdiyofficial.aliexpress.com/store/912486185
https://yongqiu.aliexpress.com/store/2657192
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/910322119

>>103235306
>300 bucks for "in bad condition overall"
Brother...

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Decided to try one of those $100 Chinese aluminum prebuilt boards (Womier SK75, and actually $90 in this case) to see if they're just a meme that youtubers are paid to shill, or if they're actually something I can recommend.
The quality and feel of the aluminium is great, I'm a big fan of the sparkly coating. The switches are smooth, they feel well lubed and sound great if you like clacky keyboards. It really feels like something that should cost twice as much.
The only reason it isn't competing with keyboards in the $200ish price range is because of the lack of customisation (mounting styles, plates, weights, weird colours, ect) that keyboard nerds normally expect, since all you're getting here are a few popular colours and a flex cut FR4 plate, with the option to purchase an extra non flex cut plate. For someone who just wants a keyboard and doesn't know exactly what they want yet, or just isn't interested in further customisation at all, I think this is unbeatable for the price.

TLDR: All the shilling is real. And yes, I'm only typing this because I just got a new keyboard and I want an excuse to type something.

>>103238293
Have you tried removing the foams? Most snobs don't like the foam sound

>>103238343
Not yet, I'll probably take it apart this weekend and do some modding.
I imagine I'll end up putting the foam back in though, since the flex cuts will probably turn into a trampoline without any foam. If I like how it sounds when I test it myself then I'll probably order the non flex cut plate to give that a try.
I was planning on replacing the switches as well, but they feel surprisingly nice so I might just keep them.

Hello /mkg/
Thinking about buying a barebone keyboard.
Currently using one with MX Browns.
Are the MX2A worth it, should i stick to MX Browns or choose one of the other vendors brown version?
Thanks in advance

>>103236733
Yeah, I'm a lot less concerned with the quality, and more with the fact that if I want a replacement set of standardized plastic buttons, it's gonna cost more than the switches that go under them. It feels so backwards.
Also, none of those three seem to make anything in Nordic, so that's not ideal.

>>103238497
There are a lot of tactile switches these days that are more highly regarded than Cherry brown switches. The days of the Chinese clone switch makers being cheap junk are long gone, and Cherry are now in many ways playing catch-up to them. The more modern Cherry switches are definitely better, in my opinion, but I think you really ought to try branching out to tactile switches from another manufacturer. People here are likely to have a lot of suggestions for you that you can use as a starting point.

>>103238659
Well in that case there are a few random stores on aliexpress if you just search for nordic keycaps, no idea about their quality though. Another option would be keychron ones for about $40.
Some other anons might know another place that sells decent nordic keycaps though.

>>103238461
I remember the rainy75 would actually bottom out without the foam, fucking idiotic board design imo

>>103238497
When it comes to switches you could ask 10 different people and get 15 different answers, but personally I would take this as a chance to try out something new. Budget tactile kings right now are mmd princess tactiles or holy panda clones, you could get a full set on black friday in a few days for $5 - $10 just to see if you like them. Gateron baby kangaroo switches are shilled a lot as well, and they'll be going for about $25. (yes the names are all dumb).
But also don't be afraid to just ignore this and get some MX2A browns if you aren't interested in trying the new stuff and would rather spend your money on something that you know you'll like.

>>103238904
These chinese factories seem to be focused on mass producing the most common trends from a few years ago, so I guess that's why they're all doing foamed up flex cuts. Since flex cuts seem to be going out of style now I think those factories will follow the new trends soon.

>>103238029
>he thinks he can get topre hipro keycap set and domes for less than 300 dollars let alone one with rare legends
sure the shell is busted as fuck but that works in my favor because regular topre keycaps wouldnt fit on it anyway, the set and domes are going in my hhkb
look up the price of a realforce 108ug or 104ug which is what people usually get hipro keycaps off of and tell me $300 is a bad deal brother.

>>103238497
Depends. If you want to lube, film, and spring-swap yourself, then mx brown hyperglides are great. If you don't do that they're not good, the spring ping is very nasty.

I've used other brown-like switches. Durock Light Tactiles (no longer available as far as I know) are very similar, but lubed and they don't have that spring ping. So in a stock comparison they're better. But having used them for a while they just subtly sound worse to me, I don't like them as much. Whether it's the JWK molds or their nylon blend, something about them is different in a worse way and it doesn't come through very clearly in youtube sound tests/etc.

Cheap Gateron browns are a bit too inconsistent on the tactile bump, I'd avoid them.

There are lots of brown-like switches out there. KTT Mallo, Aflion Foggy Shadow, Dareu Firefly, TTC Golden Brown, Nuphy Lemon, Outemu Milk Tea, these are all basically MX Browns.

If you don't want to do lubing/etc but you want something like the mx browns you know, look for a popular meme switch with:
1. a force-travel diagram similar to mx brown, or anything described as "subtle mid-press tactility" or similar
2. factory lubing
3. nylon bottom housing
4. between 55g and 65g bottom-out spring weight
5. 4.0mm travel and 2.0mm pre-travel

MX2A browns, from what I've heard, sound like a safe pick.

Got the zoom75
fantastic

>keyboard purchased a few days ago on aliex still hasn't shipped out yet
At this rate, it might be quicker and cheaper to cancel and reorder during the black friday sale

>>103239595
only zoom that's ever tempted me was the train-themed Zoom65 ("yamanote line")

>keyboard hobbyism
this has got to be the lamest and most boring activity ever spawned

>>103241632
second to making pods like this

>>103241632
Disagree. There's also making youtube videos about keyboard hobbyism

>>103213288
its surprisingly fast to change, I went from ANSI to ortholinear in a few days and my typing speed improved

>>103241632
could be worse, like doing whatever retard shit you're doing right now

>buy the ws keycap puller after realizing the wire pullers leave a mark on my abs keycaps
>this shit leaves a mark too
GMK users, wtf do you use.

>>103241931
no no, I'll do you one better... doing multi-hour twitch streams about keyboard hobbyism in which most of what you do is look at interesting new experimental board designs and say "No! No! Why are you doing a stupid mount? This is so unnecessary. Just do gasket mount. Don't buy this."

I just ordered my first mechanical keyboard, found a sale on a Keychron K4 Pro for $65.
Are their brown switches decent?

>>103243467
>abs
lmaoing at you

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anybody ever get good with an alternate layout? I'm tired of the nonsensical design of QWERTY but damn this is painful to try learn Colemak-DH. Over 4 days I have gone from like 6 wpm to about 30, but I was doing about 100 wpm before this autistic adventure. Column Staggered is so comfy though, just makes sense.

>>103243467
leave a mark where, on the bottom?

>>103236515
i like it but i'd prefer if the alphas and the modifier colours were swapped. However, I cant abide the crappy 'themed' clipart images. Theres too many sets that get ruined this way, i do hope they're only an option, in some sets they aren't and it really shits me off.

>>103243556
Their switches are pretty good, as long as you like brown style switches. Heavier bumps are normally preferred by tactile nerds, and the brown has a very light bump, but that all comes down to personal preference.

>>103241632
For a tool that people use every day, I’m surprised more people aren’t into keyboards.

>>103244585
For many people out there if something works well enough they'd rather just keep using the most commercially available thing they currently are, then replace it as needed. I can understand as I've done that before and still do it to this day.

>>103243467
just put some tape on the wires of the wire puller you fucking retard

>>103244585
People wear shoes every day, and look at the trash they wear on their feet, phony "leathers" that wear fast, glued soles, synthetic liners that offer no advantage except cheapness, that stink badly and chafe and tear open.

People are slovenly wretched creatures who spend the little money they get on MacDonalds and Jack Daniels. No thought for the morrow, nothing fine and beautiful, nothing lasting. "What is we getting for dinner?"

No keyboard "is made to endure nor to live with / but it is made to sell and sell quickly"

>>103244497
>Theres too many sets that get ruined this way
vast majority of them the quirk chungus "novelty" bullshit is an optional add-on

>>103243701
>use a keyboard that isn't yours
>guaranteed to be QWERTY
>down to 5WPM again
No thanks. Also aren't most application bindings made with QWERTY in mind? I imagine every time you play a new game you'd need to rebind fucking everything since it's all centred around WASD.

>>103244744
>>103244976
Good point, and I guess good enough really is good enough for most people. Probably doesn’t help that keyboard are seen as a snobby thing for rich nerds, especially since the first online community anyone finds is probably… reddit.

If I'm just looking for a solid no-frills TKL mostly for gaming and shitposting how do you guys like a Leopold with Cherry browns? Would you still recommend looking at Keychron or some of the other recs posted recently?

I'm also debating whether I should experiment with reds instead of my usual browns. I don't know if it matters though, I'm not sure I'd notice the difference in sound or feel. I learned to type on an old IBM so I habitually bottom the shit out of everything, to the point where coworkers came to check out my annoying mechanical keyboard just to see I was typing on a Macbook. I just figured I'd ask while I was at it.

>>103247146
I forget the specific reason but Leopold lacks some specific modern feature that matters for gaming

either nkro or fast polling rate, can't remember which

>>103247146
I would go keychron you can buy a C1 pro with QMK/VIA and hotswap support for about half the price of a Leopold. Hotswap is especially useful if you're considering reds, unless you love to desolder

>>103247146
This is probably unbeatable value wise
https://www.mchose.store/products/mchose-gx87-aluminum-custom-mechanical-keyboard
Comes with linear switches instead of browns, but if you haven’t tried linears then I’d heavily recommend giving them a try. You can always swap them out later for like $10 - 20.
Keychron is still good, but these smaller Chinese brands generally offer better value.

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are there any keyboards like OP's Hyper 7 that have a gorillion extra buttons for braces and other common programming characters that don't cost so fucking much? I'm content with the shittiest build quality, I just want more buttons

>>103247316
>>103247473
>>103247541
Hell yeah, thanks for this, I appreciate it. These are a bit less than I was expecting to spend, so should I just enjoy the savings or are there models that run a little more that offer something I might appreciate?

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>>103247552
I’d heavily recommend using layers or getting something like the GMK26, because all the boards I know with macro buttons are missing the numpad which I assume you want to keep (some variants of the Keychron Q3 Pro), are some awful shitty gaming keyboard from 10 years ago that aren’t in development anymore, or are absurdly expensive.

>>103247552
>common programming characters
is shift-[ too much for you or what

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the final evolution of input devices, keyboards are obsolete

>>103247609
The next step up would be the Qwertykeys Evo80, which offers all the features of the $140 GX87 Ultra while being a little nicer.
Beyond that you could get a barebones board like the Neo80 or Qk80 Mk2 and build a fully custom board.

>>103244497
i like the colourway as it is because i feel like it wont contrast too much with a white keyboard. imo it would look only slightly less muted than an all white kb.
i dont plan on getting the dark brown keycaps though, i think they throw off the colour way and makes the set look shitty

>>103247695
Is that a VR ball fondling simulator

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best low profile mechanical keyboard?

is it worth learning to use 10 fingers if I can already do 100+ wpm with 2

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>>103244497
>>103247769
osume dalgona keycaps
pictured with the novelty kit but you can just not buy that bit if one doesn't like novelty keys

>>103248397
Doesn't have to be 10, but you would benefit from learning to use a few more just because it would reduce the amount of movement and strain that your hands go through. You could easilly transfer your existing typing muscle memory over to your middle fingers as well with barely any effort, now you've doubled your fingers.

>>103247552
Look into making your own macropad, it's not too difficult and it can have as many keys as you want. Or just get a numpad and remap the keys

I've been converted, I no longer like knobs
fn + page up/page down for volume up or down is way better
Sorry knob bros

>>103249016
knobs are great but only if it's a separate amp/dac on your desk

>>103248762
damn bro these are p nice actually, thanks

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>65% has a 3-key nav cluster
fuck off with this shit
4-key nav cluster just makes sense to have the nav pairs (home/end, pgup/pgdn) together

>>103249125
agree, i also think knobs on keyboards are ugly and overrated

>>103249064
I've got a knob on a seperate numpad, which is nice for the same reason since I can control it with my left hand while my right is on the mouse.
>>103249125
With a layout like that I'd be tempted to put home, end, pgup and pgdn on a second layer with one of them on the right arrow key. But I do agree that it's silly to have one of them missing, especially when there's clearly room for another key.

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what the fuck is this design choice
Ryao Kludge M87
these poojeets slapped some poo shit on there
apparently Andhadhun is a 2018 movie?? I thought it was a location but all I can find about this word is a movie
what the fuck is wrong with poos

>>103249776
>Ryao
not sure what happened to my brain there

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I want to build my first board, looking for a split 40~58key. I like the Lotus58, Lily58, Sofle, Corne (I use a 60% now so I wont go as low as the corne yet. I can find plenty of guides but none that give a concise list of parts, different options, types of diodes/transistors, etc.
>Budget
~100-150
>Location (continent at least)
USA
>Preferred switch type
Currently using Boba U4T, looking for a really nice feeling silent switch as to not piss off my gf when she sleeps
>Layout
Ortho
>Form factor
Split, separate halves, wired, would prefer 1-2 rotary encoders
>Backlight
Yes
>Previous/current keyboards
HK GK61, Gat Blues (BLYECK) Gat Browns (aight) Gazzew Boba U4T's (Good feel, decent sound.)

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>>103249776
Yeah it looks horrendous, doesn't fit the gamer or enthusiast aesthetic. I think they're trying to copy this thing? Which I'm also not a fan of, but it's not as tragic as the M87.
The 75%//TKL market has very tough competition right now, so I've got no idea what they're doing.

>>103248762
I hate every set of keycaps they've ever made and always wondered who it was that liked that shit

>>103249125
brutal v2 65% $99 cannonkeys black friday sale

no knob, no blocker, no problem

zinc internal weights

>>103249825
beekeeb has all of those kits available within your budget, I've been very happy with their cantor kit. Somebody else recommended another vendor recently but I forget the name, a lot of these can be found on etsy too but prebuilt which is more expensive.
>nice feeling silent switch
Boba U4 is an obvious option but I always recommend Haimu Whispers for a better feeling silent switch

>>103249906
Me
I like the lighter pastel colourways and their font choice

>>103245746
Also the fact that influencers have conditioned so many retards into having this kneejerk hatred for any switches and keyboards outside of "le silent THOCCCCCCCY 41%" doesn't help, as many people who might be interested get misled into believe that's the "endgame", or that there really even is an "endgame" if you like keyboards.
I bet more people would be interested if there wasn't that autism looming over the space like you said, but also if there were more kinds of switches/tech in the space being actively developed besides almost entirely MX.

>>103250606
A lot of that probably comes from the fact that you can only learn what you like by purchasing more stuff, but most people don't have the means to purchase enough stuff to find out what they actually like.
So that leaves two options, you either copy an eceleb, or you copy a redditor (who has a 90% chance to just be parroting an eceleb).

I'm looking for
>ISO-DE
>PBT
>shinethrough
>cherry profile
keycaps
but the only ones I can find are the ones for steelseries and asus rog keyboards
are those really that rare? I think the shinethrough and ISO is what kills it

>>103251006
You'll probably have to make some sacrifices somewhere.
For examples these are almost perfect, but they're OEM profile instead of Cherry. OEM is fine though, basically the same thing.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001297074837.html

>>103243758
Yes, there's a mark on the bottom corners where you pull from. ABS (specifically GMK) seems very malleable.

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Thinking of buying this. Is it good?

>>103244771
What tape you use? Just tried 1 layer of masking tape and didn't help. If I put more, it feels like it won't fit between keycaps.

>>103251055
thanks
I actually have a kb coming this week that uses OEM caps so I'll try them out and if I like the height and will order these shinethrough
funnily enough I do have a few asus rog keycaps here and they're somehow even smaller (which I don't like) than cherry even though the asus kb is not low profile

>>103251086
NTA but try electrical tape, it's fairly soft.

>>103251081
I still point people towards Keychron as a good place to get a keyboard, but for something common like that 75% layout you can get a better deal elsewhere.
Aula F75 if you want to save money, or Womier SK75 if you want to spend around the same for a better keyboard. Both on Aliexpress for cheap during black friday.
>>103251006
And while I'm talking about Keychron, they also have some shinethrough keycaps you might want to consider. They might have some more if you dig around their website.
https://keychron.de/products/iso-abs-full-set-keycap-set?page=8

>>103251138
I think all keychron pbt caps are non-shinethrough, I will probably have to go with abs

>>103243556
>>103244535
Well fuck me, I got it home turns out it comes with ABS caps in Europe.
I might return it for a V5 Max which has a slightly better layout, PBT caps and 2.4 ghz, but that would cost me the equivalent of like $55 or so

>>103251428
>$55
As in $55 total or $55 more than the K4 pro you just bought?
Because if it's $55 total then that's a great deal and probably worth returning it for.

>>103250854
The cost barrier to entry for testing out different switches has dropped dramatically now that hotswap sockets are ubiquitous
The problem now is the absurd amount of choices you have when it comes to switches and so many of them have so little objective differences that normalfags have to again rely on e-celebs and e-celebs won't have opinions of every switch in existence so as you've already pointed out, it once again falls on what e-celebs hype up

>>103251478
Nah, the total would be $155 or so. I've been converting the previous estimates from Swedish kroner so it hasn't been exact, but I'd have to pay ~ 60% more over what I got the K4 Pro for
After looking at keyboards for quite a few years before getting around to purchasing one it feels shitty to get a ABS set, but the price difference doesn't seem worth it for PBT. Not that I've tried PBT to be able to tell but yeah

>>103251586
Yeah at this point you're better off keeping the K4 Pro, you can always swap out the keycaps later for something else. You can get some $20 - $25 PBT keycaps on Aliexpress that are roughly the same quality as Keychron stuff.

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>>103251583
I had a quick look on youtube to see what switch recomendations are like, and it really is tragic. All of the recommended videos are a few years old and out of date, and one of the first recomendations in one of those top videos were fucking speed silver and speed copper switches???
Most other videos aren't awful, but they're still out of date and look something like this pic. Plus everyone keeps talking about linear switches like they're only for gaming, which is just silly.
And if you specifiy 2024? Now you just get shills trying to get you to buy meme switches from their own stores or affiliate links.

>>103251078
How tight's the fit? Are these on cherry ergo clears or something?

>>103251081
On November 26th you'll be able to get an aluminum 75% full build (some assembly required) from Cannonkeys for $69.

Worst case scenario is they ship it with their most awful switches and ugliest keycaps, then you're spending another $40-60 on aliexpress to replace them with something you actually like. Still a great deal. The board used to cost $300. (That wasn't a great price and things are more competitive today, ofc.)

If you're capable of doing some easy soldering I wouldn't be looking at other 75% boards this month.

>>103252519
judging by the colors left there's a good chance you end up with slime green or girly lavender, and I doubt they let you choose

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>>103252519
Do they actually let you pick the size? Based on this image I was assuming you just pay and get some random shit ranging between 60 - 75%.
Still a great deal of course, but I won't be going for it myself. (mostly because shipping costs are brutal for me at $50 (haha, brutal))

>>103252563
I don't think it makes a lot of sense for them to do that. They let TKL and Ergo enjoyers pick their layout. I think they're just grouping them because they're all the same price.

>>103252620
keep in mind their shipping includes estimates of fees/etc

I used to avoid them because it said $80 CAD shipping to Canada, then they updated the page to emphasize that already includes duties/etc, so you don't get a charge at the door. Suddenly made a lot more sense.

>>103252628
meant to quote >>103252620

>>103252647
That's a lot more reasonable then, I might get something from them in future sales.
>>103252656
They probably will let you choose, but the idea of someone wanting a 75% keyboard and instead getting a pink 60% with soldered in clicky switches and lime green keycaps is still hilarious to me.

>>103252681
I'd say there's a 0% chance they're building the board for you.

How's the EVO80? I'm looking for a TKL/75 keyboard and was having a look at this one. Feature set seems very good. Does anyone here have experience with it?

>>103252689
Well while we're talking about it, you might as well just get one of these things >>103252620 considering they normally cost $350ish.
It's the best deal you'll find anywhere, as long as you don't mind the risk of getting a grim colour.
But yeah the Evo80 is good if you'd rather spend a bit more to guarantee a colour.
>>103252684
This is why they should let me run their company, I would personally solder outemu blues into every mystery keyboard to increase customer satisfaction.

if you cant hear yourself type, did you really say anything?

>>103252813
No because I don't speak with my voice when I'm typing

>>103211276
>make your hands accustomed to spreading cheeks
like what? like your own, as you heave that pasty lard ass onto the shitter?

Is there an inexpensive and/or good sub-TKL that has end/home/pgup/pgdn and tactile switches stock? I don't care if it has a knob or not and I'd prefer it if it's not wireless

>>103252202

zeal clickiez are now the best tactile switch

some fag on youtube liked this. how is it?
https://iqunix.com/products/magi65

>>103253248
fags on youtube will love anything given enough ad/sponsorship money
>low profile
why though?

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>>103253126
If the tactile event was around the 60-65g range maybe, it's too much otherwise, unless you're in the small percentage of people who just smashes their fingers into their keyboard.

>>103254419
There will be other, less tactile leaves that'll happen Eventually™

whats the best keyboard

>>103254751
My best keyboard is too strong for you, traveler.

>>103254751
The one you have with you

>>103251641
yeah that's what I'm thinking too, thanks

>>103238293
>>103238293
nice one anon. this keeb is my first real mechanical keyboard and i agree that it definitely punches above its weight. no real complaints from me after 3 months with it, other than the fact that the weight of the board is quite heavy but its not like im picking it up and moving it all that much.im thinking of buying gmk keycaps for it

Looking to get my first mechanical keyboard, but it's so confusing. I'm looking for a wired, hot-swappable keyboard in-case I want to do anything with it later. Though, there are few full-size keyboards I can find like this. There's Keychron, but most of their keyboards seem identical despite having different codes. Any other good brands?

>>103256770
vertex seal

>>103243701
Fell for this meme, tried for a while, got up to 50WPM, wasn't for me

Part of my problem is that to this day I don't ten-finger-type like you should, so I thought if I was gonna learn I'll do it on a more "efficient" layout
>turns out none of the claims of physical alleviation or prevention is very substantial, if at all

Buuuuuuuuut it's just a PITA. I can type 105WPM on a good day with my "hunt and peck" style on QWERTY (average is 85). It's mostly just inefficient when I am stuck on one side of the keyboard.

Side-note: my typing isn't the fastest and I know if I ever get around to relearning how to properly type I could be 100+ on average easy

However, I have often found myself still able to work faster than peers of mine who can type faster because I am very reliant on keyboard shortcuts. Not just copy/paste but mostly Ctrl + Delete, Ctrl + Shift + Home, Alt + ABC... if going through a series of prompts like an installer to instantly select an option or button

>>103251081
They're well built with good features, just make sure it has what you want, e.g. PBT caps (not that you can't replace them), RGB, QMK, hotswap, good switches, etc.

Enthusiasts will sometimes shit on them but I don't think on a whole there is a better production keyboard maker personally