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>>103221333

Thank you for the reminder that the 50 series is gimped on vram

5090 512bit 32gb vram gddr7
5080 256bit 16gb vram gddr7
5080 ti 512bit 16gb vram gddr7
5080 24g 192bit 24gb vram gddr6x
5080 24g ti 384bit 24gb vram gddr6x
5070 192bit 12gb vram gddr6x
5060 128bit 8gb vram gddr6

>>103221382
>5080 ti 512bit 16gb vram gddr7
for me its this one in about 2 years or however long they delay it after the budget versions release

>>103221375
>32gb of vram is not enough for you
bro what are you playing

>>103221382
>5090
>32gb

Please PLEASE be true.

>>103221401
There's no game that uses that much VRAM, but AI and really high-end 3D rendering can surpass that amount.

will my waitfagging pay off or is the 50 series all hype?

>9950x3d
>94gb 6000CL30 ram
>5090
>PCIE5 nvme
>240hz DWQHD monitors

man i cannot WAIT for january holy fuck

it's going to be a nice upgrade from 3090 and 10900k

>>103221445
I keep hearing blackedwell is coming out in December
Are you sure it's still January?

>>103221455
why would they rush when there is a CES in mid january where they can steal the thunder

>>103221333
she looks better with her hair like that

>>103221431
then i guess you better pay up for 2 5090s since you want to use ai idk
as long as youre not doing ai art i dont care

>>103221455
Blackwell is competing in the low end, they have nothing to show at CES.

>>103221477
Idk, there's no compitition and people want the next lineup more than ever
Personally I just want to snag one before the tariffs
Not looking to spend over $2500 on a gpu
>>103221493
Are you implying there's no 5090?

>>103221499
nevermind me, I mixed up battlemage and Blackwell, brainfart

>>103221382
So 5080 is bare minimum next gen. Painful. Anything lower than 16gb vram at this point brand new is a bad buy

>>103221382
Yes, but WHY. I just can't see why anyone would bother with 50s.

>>103221399
Was there a 4080 Ti? I bought the 4090 when I realised there would never be one. What makes you expect a 5080 Ti? I think it's even less likely than the 4080 Ti was. Nvidia lost interest in gaming. They make SO MUCH more money with AI.

>>103221541
>They make SO MUCH more money with AI.
They make so much hype with AI, money not so much. Everyone at Nvidia is selling out because they know the stock is grossly overpriced.

>>103221431
> There's no game that uses that much VRAM
I have 20 GB of texture mods for Cyberpunk and it could be more if only my 4090 had more VRAM.

I need my faster renders and sd porn bros
My oven is outdated and I need to COOK

would a 1000w PSU be enough for 4090? pairing it with the 9800x3d. should I also consider 1200w if I want to future proof my build?

>>103221333
I graduated from one of the nerdiest colleges in the US and there were plenty of CS, engineering, and science students that looked like young Lisa Su.

>>103221443
Worst case, the RTX 50 series should offer a 15~20% gen-over-gen improvement for the 5060~5080 tier of cards.
These chips are all deliberately cut down and disabled to leave enough room for easy mid-gen refreshes and a lower bar for next gen (RTX 60) gains.
Or they'll just keep adding more features to compensate.

>>103221445
2x48 = 96 GB RAM!
I too am waiting for the 9950X3D, not so much for the 5090 since my 4090 isn't that bad yet.
The 9950X3D will be the fastest gaming CPU in the world thanks to better silicon and the new turbo mode in AGESA that prevents the overhead of inter-CCD coms. I know it won't come with double VCache but this wouldn't be useful anyway. I want 16 cores to boost my productive apps.

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Built this PC out of spare parts my friends had lying around. Then the processor died and I had to change a bunch of shit for cheap. Tell me, how bad is it?

>>103221598
Isn't 50 on a sinilar node to 40? It's not like 30 to 40 where you jumped from samshit 8nm to tsmc 4/5nm, unless 50 series are somehow boosted to 4ghz

>>103221571
Should be enough if you stick to AMD as their CPUs are efficient, hell you could potentially pull it off with 850W but 1k should be enough for your build unless you wanna overclock.

>Intel ES CPUs are dirt cheap
>mobos cost arm and a leg
:/

>>103221625
>63c idle
Bro....

>>103221523
I'm pretty sure there will be a 5070 with 16GB but no 5080 with 24GB ever. Probably not even with 20GB. Similar to 40.

>>103221382
>could easily give the 5060 16gb of gddr6
>will not, because they know it'd be too good of a deal
I hate technology.

>>103221661
a 5070 with 16 would be the sweet spot for sure. 12 feels lacking even though its better than 8. 8 in 2025 is downright insulting. These modern devs can't hold themselves back

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I will be upgrading from R5 5600 to 9800X3D and RTX 3070 to 5080

Gonna build a PC and I have a windows 10 usb laying around, can I install win 10 on it then update to windows 11 and redeem a cd key?

>>103221382
so wait 1 more gen for 48gb got it

>retards still talking about VRAM amounts that are incompatible with known bus widths
When will you fags learn?

>>103221635
It's the middle of summer bro, things get hot. I was asking about the specs though.

should I sell my 3080ti or 3090 before Blackwell release?

>>103221541
5080ti or 5080 super whatever they want to call it

>>103221571
1000W is optimal for 4090 + 9800X3D + several SSD + 7 fans/AIO
https://www.bequiet.com/en/psucalculator

>>103221673
>RTX 3070 to 5080
I might do the same, or I might move to ayyymd since they are less stingy with vram on their midrange cards. we'll see where things fall next year

>>103221625
its more over than ever before

>>103221703
>middle of summer
NIGGA WE ARE HALFWAY THROUGH NOVEMBER. BUY A CALENDAR.

>>103221668
> 5070 with 16 would be the sweet spot for sure
For $799. The Ti would be $999, the 5080 $1299 and the 5090 $1999 or 2199 (all MSRP not street)

>>103221748
>everyone lives in USA/Europe

>>103221748
he is even worse than an american he is an aussie most likely

>>103221748
The absolute state of northern hemisphere intelligence

Alright lets be real here
5090 512bit 32gb ddr7
5080 256bit 16gb gddr7
5070 192bit 12gb gddr6x
5070 16g 128bit 16gb gddr6x
5070 16g ti 256bit 16gb gddr7
5060 128bit 8gb gddr6
5060 16g 128bit 16gb gddr6

>>103221625
stop using speccy, boomer.

>>103221703
its not even summer, its spring.
summer starts in two weeks.
as for the specs, we can't fucking see them because you're using archaic software.
use HWINFO64

>>103221816
never

>>103221755
>>103221803
If you insist upon using the Gregorian calendar you better also abide by the same seasons. If you ever said, "I hate how hot it gets during the summer." and it was November, I'd kick you in the balls. Use your own fuckin' calendar like the Chinese do.

opinions on fractal north xl? local store has a super good deal on one, sub 100

>>103221821
>skylake
>gtx 980
bro it may aswell be made out of wood

>>103221821
I hate shit like this. HWINFO64 sounds like the name a virus from 2002 that you'd put on the family computer while trying to download porn. Can't autistic people come up with better names for shit they make?

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prices are in cad so basically US$ would be -30%

2TB SN850X the best deal here i guess?

>>103221804
Not bad, pretty realistic.
Now put price tags to them.

>>103221703
63c means either that intel is a housefire or you're running it in some no airflow case

>>103221860
I hate Canada Computers so much. I bought an M.2 from them and they just threw it in an envelope, by the time it got to me it was smashed to pieces. Fuck them.

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>the solid panel version of my case just went on sale and its about the same i paid for the glass garbage

>>103221861
5090 $1999 msrp
5080 $1499 msrp
5070 $999 msrp
5070 16g $899 msrp
5070 16g ti $1099 msrp
5060 $499 msrp
5060 16g $699 msrp
5080 super refresh $1299 msrp

is my 13600k worth anything used? how much should i chuck it up on facey for with z690 mobo and ddr4 64gb ram, keeping my a770 for a htpc/backup build if i cant even get 200 dollarydoos for this im not bothing to tell desu
>>103221333
would

>>103221900
>5080 super refresh $1299 msrp
jewidia robs me blind once more and im going to do it

>>103221900
>5090 $1999 msrp
we both know the actual price will be anywhere from 2500-3000usd+ lol
ill stick to my a770 and 7900xtx thank you VERY much

>yfw nvidia from now on caps every non xx90 card to 16gb vram and only xx90 keeps going higher

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I LOVE RGB COLORS
I LOVE SEEING PRETTY LIGHTS ON BUILDS
ILL KEEP BUYING RGB PARTS NO MATTER WHAT

>>103221858
nigga speccy sounds like spectre which is an actual vulnerability
blah blah short for specifications
blah blah short for hardware information

>>103221900
Why do you tards keep thinking the 5080 will be >$1000 when the 4080 at $1200 was a failed experiment and the 4080S had to be dropped down to $1000?

>>103221971
Because they will try it anyways

>>103221971
they are selling 4080 supers for 1300 euro right now

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>Montech Titan Gold
CAD$172 = US$122
it's ~US$20 more for the 1000w version but this is just for a PC with a 7700X + 7900XTX and i dont want my PC to be too much of a heater

about to pull the trigger, alternative is an Corsair RM850x for $10 more
anything else i should consider

>>103221333
MOMMY!!!!!!!!!!!

>>103221333
hmm...will the 6000 series be 2026 or 2027??? when is the next architecture from TSMC scheduled????

>>103222007
the names trips trip bond

>>103222000
>Corsair RM850x
kino

>>103221971
They'll do it just to help clear 4080S stock

>>103221971
Trump tariffs + tip + tax + reparation

>>103222009
knowing nvidiass only competing with themselves this gen unless udna6/7 and battlemage/celest/druid are fucking amazing they have no rason to rush out high end gpus until 2028-2030

>>103221971
gddr7 tax

>>103221999
>yuropoors still don't know burger prices don't include tax
Take off your VAT and then convert to USD

>>103222016
i get the impression im paying extra for the corsair brand so im leaning towards Montech which ive only heard about because it's apparently high tier on the Cultists PSU list

>>103221971
It has to match the 4090's performance to even be relevant, there's simply no way they'll let that happen when it still sells for close to $2000 daily.
They have nothing to lose by pricing the 5080 high at launch, if anything it'll just trigger compulsive buyers into going for the 5090 instead.

Hobbyists don't care about pricing these days, even in those threads you'll find people ready to spend $2500 to upgrade their current 4090s.
People just seem to shit money these days.

>>103222046
>Hobbyists don't care about pricing these days, even in those threads you'll find people ready to spend $2500 to upgrade their current 4090s.
indeed
>>103222046
i dont its all gonna be on credit LOL

I have 5 years old ryzen 2600 and gtx 1660 Ti
I can only upgrade one component.

Should I get a ryzen 5800x or radeon 6600?

Why do people still use the cultist psu list when you can just check Cybenetics own database?

>>103222066
both are super holding you back, the jump from 2600 to 3600 even was massive. that said, if you can only pick one thing go with the gpu and do a drop in cpu upgrade when you can to 5700x3d

Any silicon that's used for gaming is wasted silicon...

We need more silicon for AI

>>103222033
i have 4 corsair PSUs with 0 issues ever so im not even looking at lists

>>103222054
You're telling me it's only $20 monthly for 15 years? DEAL!!!

Mobo + ram recommendations for the 9800X3D?

>>103222109
b650 steel legend
2x16gb 6000cl30-36-36-76 ram

>>103222111
>b650 steel legend
This board is fucking unobtainum right now

>>103222032
surely you are not listing your prices without tax when posting here RIGHT

>>103222116
then get the x870 pro rs or x870steel legend

>>103222109
ASRock Nova or the Gigabyte Auros Pro or whatever that one is that's the same price. The Nova is better, but good luck getting one. You gotta be on top of that shit. RAM choice will come down to what the motherboard can use. Right now I am taking the time to trying to push for avoiding 2x32 gigs unless you do rendering and modeling and shit. I am also advising you not to get 2x16 gigs because that's the old standard. They make 2x24 gig sticks now, there just isn't a lot but Corsair Terminator is one of the brands, and that's a pretty safe bet.

>>103222111
>b650 steel legend
Is that really enough for the 9800x3D and moderate amounts of tuning? I don't bother with hard OC on AMD chips but I really like tightening RAM timings, CO and stuff so I'm wondering if a X870 mobo would be better for that.
Would love splurging for the X870E but the price is insane in EU, cheapest available rn is 400€+.

what are people buying higher-end mobos for if most of them will not bottleneck the most power hungry AMD (which is not saying much to be fair)

>>103222117
UHHHHHHHHHHH

>>103222145
yes its enough. there is no point overspending on a motherboard when all of them can run 6400cl28 if your IMC is good enough
9800x3d is also factory unlocked so you don't have to shell out $400 for a board with eCLK generator

>>103222149
Brainwashed by marketing
Same reason people buy 1000W PSU when they only have a R5 7600X & 4070S

>>103222149
mostly for aesthetics or for a specific I/O feature that cheaper boards don't have

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>>103221333

>>103222149
pcie5 support for future nvme and gpu upgrade in 1-2 years when 5080 super comes out
2 cpu lane nvme slots

>>103222171
A 4090 doesn't saturate PCIe Gen4x16
There is no need for PCIe Gen5x16 for GPUs for at least another generation

>>103222171
>pcie5 support for future nvme and gpu upgrade in 1-2 years when 5080 super comes out
b650 SL already supports this as well as most other b650e and x870 boards
>2 cpu lane nvme slots
ironically only available on 600 series boards since 4 lanes were repurposed to usb4 on 800 series. so 2 cpu lane slots would mean dropping to x8 on the gpu on those newer boards.

uhm ACKSHUALLY nvidia are our friends and have never increased prices gen over gen

>>103222176
x670e chads win again

>>103222165
I'd lick her pussy till its dry.

>>103222194
It's dry as-is though

>>103222175
i dont plan on upgrading from my 9800x3d for several generations so may aswell get a mobo to support next gen gpu

>>103222149
Yeah I don't really see the point in spending more than like 180-200 on a mobo ever. Hell there are even very good boards around 150 these days unless you have very specific needs

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I am going to buy the 5080 eventually. I have never owned a card above the xx70 series, so ive never plugged in more than 2 PCIE cables to a card. I see that the 4000 series and above uses a different kind of connector that takes multiple incoming cables and brings it down to 1 plug for the card.
My question is: Lets say the 5080 takes THREE PCIE connectors, and necks it down to the ONE connector for the card. Do I need to run 3 separate PCIE cables from my PSU to each connector, or can i use the split PCIEs on one cable together? cus all the PCIE cables on my PSU split into 2, so i COULD just use 2 cables, 2+1 to go into the splitter. Should I, or should I buy a third spare for my PSU so each connector is its own cable?

How far can i push my ryzen 3600? Does it work with a 4070 super without dropping 1 million frames?

>>103222111
why not a higher clock speed ram?

>>103222222
you have to now

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>>103222197
that's where my saliva would do its work. give me my 9800x3d + 7900xtx, please.

>>103222222
wasted hexes

>>103222229
ryzen's memory controller maxes out in gear1 3100-3200mhz which is 6200-6400mt/s ram
There aren't any 6200mt/s kits with tight timings so 6000cl30 (and cl28) is the best expo profile that will just work out of the box with great performance.

>>103222222
is it true that moot sends you a billion dollar when you do hexes

>>103222244
Gotcha, ty anon

My new build is going to be so sick but I can't tell y'all due to the lack of taste here

>>103222294
the only tasteful motherboard that's not on the wrx socket is the x870e godlike

>>103222225
i had a 3700x+4080s and i gained a fuckton of frames both 1% lows and average when i swapped to a 5800x3d

>>103222176
Wait is this forreal? All x870 buyers got scammed? B650e x670e chads fucking won

>>103222222
4080 is 3 pcie to 1, 4090 is 4 to 1, or you use 12v2x6 some psu manufactueres put with their psu and you only use the dedicated 600w cable/connection

>>103221704
chat?

Why are people saying the Arctic III is difficult to mount on AM4/5? I nailed it twice with zero issues in less than two minutes each time.

>>103222335
because some people are finding it difficult to mount

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I'm gonna consoom a battlemage this year

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I got paid some money and I need some new stuff.
I'm thinking of grabbing a 5700X3D, got Fuma 2 to cool it down and 5600X is already giving me bottlenecks in certain games like Darktide 2 where I hit 70% GPU use when shit hits the fan. I only have RT settings left to increase which makes me hit 100% use but the game just runs bad with it. Plus for less than $200, it sounds like an extremely good deal without having to replace Motherboard & RAM and can last me for another few years.
I'm kinda bummed on 1TB storage too and 2TB drives seem affordable now. I paid $130 something for my SX8200 back in the day (late 2020). What's a decent 2TB NVMe to get these days? I can grab 990 Pro which honestly seems cheap for a top of the line product, but there are so many models now.
I also need a new mouse as my Deathadder Essential is shitting the bed due to bad scroll wheel. I like the shape of Deathadder for my HUEG hands so the new V3 (wired) seems like a decent option but I'd like to hear /g/'s thoughts.
>>103222225
It'll be a huge difference. Even my 5600x which is a lot better than a 3600 struggles to drive a 3070ti in certain games. 4070S will even be further bottlenecked.

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>>103222316
anon the usb4 support will save them

>>103222335
Some people can't even install a CPU into a socket properly
There's a lot of variability in people's capabilities

>>103222316
No. He doesn't understand the graph he posted the last time he said this. The four lanes are not reserved for USB 4.0, rather they reserve bandwidth for them on SOME BOARDS. If you check out some reviews of Bifurcated boards like the Nova then you will see they no problem hitting x16 and using more than one NVME in the Gen 5 slots. The bandwidth sharing only occurs when you actively utilize the USB 4.0 ports. If you don't do that, then it doesn't happen.

Are the benchmarks on PassMark's website any good?

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>>103222316
Yes it's real. Basically 800 series boards, without stealing GPU lanes, are only able to run two M2 at full speed (x4 from CPU, x4 from chipset) unthrottled by lane sharing while 600 series boards can do three (x8 from CPU, x4 from chipset)

Even the commonly skilled x870e is limited by this cuckery while the older cheaper b650 steel legend isn't

>release in December
>holidays craze
>release in January
>CES craze
What shall it be, Nvidia?

>>103222368
Commonly shilled*

Also pic is of the Nova's pcie lane breakout

>>103222335
Honestly no idea, I was also surprised at how easy it was to mount.
Like yeah, maybe if you're a caveman you might overtighten the screws or slip with your screwdriver but that would be user error more than the AIO being hard to mount.

>>103222370
Most people do their holiday shopping in November
Especially around Black Friday

i am not going to get a 1000w psu

i am only going to get an 850w psu

>>103222370
Nvidia is making so much money that Christmas consumer sales would not male a single blip on their earnings.

Intel i9 12(12) Bartlet lake-s and Radeon RX 8950XXXTX is my endgame

need win because some of my shit cant run on linux

yes or no
https://www.vip-scdkey.com/key/p202105101337102054.html

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>>103222007
>>103221333
I would let Lisa Su peg me if she stayed with me for a weekend in bed.

Saturday would just be constant fucking with cuddles and kissing in between. Not leaving bed, save for necessary piss breaks before quickly returning to plunge back under the covers, taking refuge from the cold in each other's warmth.

Breakfast wouldn't cross our minds until 9pm, and we'd both lose 5lbs from fucking and starving together, only ingesting each other's spit. She'd continue to glow in her black latex, shoelace, and sheer satin outfits. Beaming like an idol.

Sunday morning we'd leave bed and go outside in oversized winter jackets and boots. She'd hand me a cigarette and light both of ours like in a film. I have never even smoked before, but rolling with the dizzying theme of degeneracy, and medical grade limerence (and not to mention dietary hunger), I wouldn't stir. Trying not to cough, I'd glance at her for indirect instruction while she gazed at the sky across the silent, dim, snowy street.

Come Sunday evening, both our lustful teenage hearts, anticipating the big Monday to come - meetings with PMs, TSMC engineers, press conferences - real life - would have her departure whirling in both our minds, or at least just mine.

Finally, when I'm nodding off at 8pm from hunger and lethargy from the cigarettes, sore jaw, and empty balls, she'd dress in her usual grey tailored blazer and trousers, pack up her lingerie soiled in spunk, saliva and sweat, and quietly vanish when I thought she was just out of bed using the washroom.

I'd wake up Monday morning, the curtain allowing an inch of sunlight to cast on the foot of my bed, children shouting outside, and the clock hands piercing the deafening stillness indoors, not knowing what the fuck is real, except that my weekend with Lisa Su would never happen again, cus she's just one of those girls.

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Is this the go-to board for AM5? For $250, it seems to have everything a regular use needs and perhaps even more.
>X870
>Wi-Fi7
>lots of ports including 2 type-C
Probably has good VRMs and whatnot. Too bad about the ARCTIC GAYMEN aesthetics but I don't even look inside my case.

>>103222387
>>103222400
So January?

>>103222414
What hardware dosnt work on gnu/Linux?
Also just use unactivated windows instead of paying some thirdy for a key

>>103222414
Here, retard, I'll spoonfeed you
https://massgrave.dev/

>>103222414
abbodi1406, 7zip, pass 1234, disable windows defender, run, press 2, enable windows defender again
>>103222427
this seems even better

>>103222417
low amount of USB 3.0 ports and some lane sharing if you populate all NVMEs, but outside of that it's good. only wish they made the same board but with 2 ram slots only

>>103222435
I don't need that many ports, but what's the deal with only having 2 dimm slots? I don't think I've ever used more than 2 slots in my 20+ years of custom builds but curious.

>>103222414
install wine and wine-staging. I got world of tanks to work on Ubuntu by doing just that

also, for installing win 10 for free:
https://neetventures.com/post/7

>>103222335
Was a pain in the ass when I mounted mine, had to push down on it pretty hard to get the threads to engage.

>>103222435
>only wish they made the same board but with 2 ram slots only
just take the mITX pill already

>>103222423
uh. games with anticheat

is there a point in getting an x ryzen if I'm not overclocking? My mobo supports up to 5700/5800

>>103222427
thx

>>103222449
Boards with only two slots supposedly overclock better, but tinkering with your memory for 1% real world improvement is severe autism.

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>>103222486
>boot
>enable XMP/DOCP
yup it's GAYMEN TIME

>>103222466
>ITX
id be doing this again if prices werent dumb

this time im giving my NR200 build to my dad and im building from scratch with a lian li A3, i end up saving like $300+ off the mobo and psu i can put into the gpu instead
sounds like an exaggeration but it's not because no one makes cpu+mobo bundles with ITX boards

>>103222449
because 1 DIMM per channel is more efficient than 2DPC, effectively making it a lot easier to stabilize higher clocks with RAM. if you're just slightly lucky you could be running 8000mhz on a 9800x3D and that would outperform the standard 6000-6400mt low timings.
populating 4 slots with DDR5 doesn't even work properly most of the time and almost nobody will run more than 64gb so might as well just ditch the useless RAM slots.
>>103222466
what are some decent mITX boards for AM5? I think the issue I'll run into is that they're all going to be expensive as fuck.
sticking a 4090 or similarly oversized card to a mITX sounds funny as fuck though

>>103222494
actually after BIOS update a few weeks back I forgot to do that, didn't notice any diference.

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>>103222504

>>103222478
Ryzen X chips "overclock" themselves, they're exactly what you should get if you don't want to fuck with settings yourself. If your board supports Zen 3 it probably supports all of them, and your options should be either the 5600X, the 5700X3D or maybe the 5950X for heavy productivity, disregard the others.

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Want to get rid of ips glow, but do not want to pay $700 for it.
Want perfect blacks but do not want pay $700 for it.
Want high hz to play at 60fps, but do not want to pay $700 for it.
Wat do if u poor?

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>>103222527
Just stop wanting stuff, dude

>>103222525
why 5600x over regular 5700x?

>>103222522
man cases back then just did not give a shit about temps

bet the side panel was basically solid with tiny vents on like a fifth of the surface

>>103222527
>do not want to pay $700
I'm from EU and "only" paid 530€ for my Alienware AW2725DF (QD-OLED). If you're from the US you should have access to ridiculous open box deals from Best Buy and others, or even better sales from manufacturers.
There were some $400-$500 WOLEDs that reviewers talked about for a bit, try to look for them if that's in your budget.

>>103222537
I can buy it, but I can't feel good about buying it. That's the issue.

>>103222548
I'm in rus lands, $650 is best we got for 240hz MSI ones. Which is way beter than what they did cost, they started like at ~$1300.

>>103222504
>what are some decent mITX boards for AM5?
I only researched B650 since that's what I ended up buying
>Asrock B650I Lightning WiFi or A620I Lightning WiFi
The default choice at this point
>Gigabyte B650I Aorus Ultra
If you want 3 NVMe slots and can find it on discount because it's more expensive than either Asrock choices

>>103222549
Just get a VA panel that's not $700 dollars

>>103221401
ai coomer slop generator
anyways whats the point in spending 2200 to play goyslop or cs at 1500 fps? I need to find some new hobbies, else im just wasting money on computers.

>>103222571
the double glow and the smear on cheap ones, and neo g7 is more expensive than oled.

>>103222581
go to a taylor swift concert for $5000 i guess

>>103222543
Same real world performance, lower price. And don't fall for the futureproofing meme, software will keep getting worse.

the nice thing about ITX is you only have like 3 choices for the mobo and like 2 choices for the PSU

>>103222599
the list of nice things about ITX ends there. just get a laptop.

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>>103222599
>having fewer choices is a good thing

>>103222149
For me it's really just USB ports. I have a lot of shit running out of the back of my PC. I do have an expansion card, but only for 2 power delivery ports for the sake of keeping a VR headset from draining while playing.
>>103221704
>>103222326
I'd sell the 3090. Larger amount of people buying(for AI shit because of the vram), and it's not a great card to have in the long term because of its power spiking issues. Put that money towards your 50 series whatever, but keep the 3080ti in the event of early teething issues. Always good to keep at least some old hardware in the event of sudden death/DoA's.

>>103222624
no need to keep old GPUs anymore, all CPUs come with iGPU now.

>>103222629
Must just be an old habit I've stuck with then. I always keep my previous GPU while giving the one before that away to friends/relatives who might use it.

What are the coolest and most overbuilt 7800XT and 7900GRE variants?

>>103222638
that's common sense for the old times, no point anymore

>>103222641
Sapphire NITRO and Powercolor Red Devil, duh

>>103222585
anything else...? maybe i should start gardening next year or some shit. at least my mental health will actually get better afterward

>>103222599
The downsides of ITX:
>More expensive for less stuff
>Worse thermals
>Cases more difficult to work with
The only appeal for ITX is if you live in a space the size of a closet. Minimalism is a scam.

>>103222657
use power tools for gardening, like powered potato seeding and harvesting
you can live on vegetables whole winter with little effort and a lot of fun tinkering with the tools

>>103222657
Photography if you want something else to gearfag
Recreational drop-in team sports or lifting otherwise for health and shit

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>>103222657
>>103222667
pets and vege gardens are the secret to a happy mind.

Dear PC Buildan'

Black Friday is coming up, I want to make an AM5 build in a small form factor that's as cheap as I can get it. I'm not against spending extra on the case but I'd like a cheap mobo, cheap RAM, the cheapest processor that's relatively 'new', hopefully under $600
Can it be done? This PC will mostly be bolted to the bottom of my standing desk at home as a work PC and doesn't need gaming capability, it'll be mostly running some flavor of Linux.

>>103222691
>doesn't need great performance
>doesn't want to spend much
>wants the shiny new thing
Just go AM4, consoomer

>>103222691
you ahve space under your giant standing desk, use it to put a proper case there
small factor is expensive.

>>103222691
Just get one of those mini PCs by Beelink or similar chink company that uses Zen 4 mobile parts

Computers just arent fun anymore; its all "15 percent faster and version 6.9 of ai upscaling technique" year after year.

>>103222719
Computers were never fun, only the software you (single-handedly) could make with them, and we hit the limit of that years ago.

>>103222744
i disagree, both hardware and software were fun but i agree with the second part.

im trying to make a development/3d workstation and so far ive come up with the following:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 3.7 GHz 12-Core Processor ($226.96 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Scythe Mugen 6 60.29 CFM CPU Cooler ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B550M PRO-VDH WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($108.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($35.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($35.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital WD_Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital WD_Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC GeForce RTX 4060 8 GB Video Card ($299.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Jonsbo Jonsplus Z20 MicroATX Desktop Case ($84.99 @ Newegg Sellers)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1212.87

ive already got peripherals and os is gonna be debian. anything im missing? anything to improve? pcpartpicker is whining about a bios update for cpu/mobo but thats fine.

>>103222691
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KWMf74

Building a new PC soon, budget is $2k in US
What GPU should I get for 1440p ultra gaming? 16 GB 4060 ti?

>>103222765
4080 Super

>>103221914
Initial street price will be ASTRONOMIC until all whales are milked then will go down with increasing supply and stay moderately above MSRP, just like we witnessed with 4090. Of course all cards will be several hundreds more than the previous gen.

>>103222719
>pay more for the same blurry TAA AI upscaled trash!!!
no i dont think i will

Never built a computer from the ground up before. In Amercia and looking to spend around $1500.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rk8nQd Is this build fine? Just gonna be used for gaming.

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>>103222629
>>103222646
i have my 2 previous builds ready to go at any time (third one i gave to my dad)

>>103222765
>1440p ultra
if you are talking about modern games and want native 60fps 5090
wish i was joking

>>103222368
>Even the commonly skilled x870e is limited by this cuckery while the older cheaper b650 steel legend isn't
kek holy shit
b650 STEEL LEGEND PLEASE COME BACK IN STOCK

>>103222764
>>103222705
>>103222704
>>103222702
Dang, thanks guys.

>>103222762
>you would really benefit from the 5950X (buy used if you must, it's fine)
>current cooler meta is Thermalright
>just go with 2 memory sticks

>>103222046
> you'll find people ready to spend $2500 to upgrade their current 4090s
It's not considered an upgrade if you build a whole new PC, right?

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Is $170 good for 2 SSDs, 870 Evo, 3Tb total?

>>103222762
will a 4060 be enough? idk if it will, just curious
>>103222775
neither will i. I got an xbox, barely touch that shit. And ive played more 360 games on it than current gen ones.

>>103222102
> $20 monthly for 15 years
Would you get a payment plan like this for a fucking toy?

>>103222805
Reminder that not even the 9800X3D can get 0.1% lows above 60 FPS in some modern games.

>>103222175
> A 4090 doesn't saturate PCIe Gen4x16
And yet you will lose some frames if you cut the bandwidth in half. Who wants this if it can be evaded?

>>103222294
> y'all
> taste

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>>103222842
true suffering

>>103222765
> 1440p ultra gaming
4090 is just enough for sufferable fps.

>>103222815
id prefer avoiding buying used for the sake of convenience. first pick on thermalright saves a few bucks; any word on their fans? im planning on also buying a few noctuas for case fans right off the bat, but its been 5+ years since ive done any of this so im not sure if theyre still worthwhile for fans. regarding memory, my big thing is total cost. is 2 sticks vs 4 really significant for performance? the two sets of ripjaws seemed cheaper than a 2x16bg set, but maybe i didnt look hard enough.

>>103222830
im curently rocking an rx 480, so anything is an improvement on my workflow. i dont anticipate doing anything super heavy, but being able to use viewport rendering with blender that doesnt take 20 seconds per frame would be a massive upgrade. the 4060 is very conservative because im kinda poor atm.

>>103222842
human eyes cant see 0.1% lows

>>103222888
Yes you can, there is visible stutter. Obviously the severity is dependent on the game.

>>103222915
Just realized he said .1%... Regardless, I'm pretty sure he's referring to 1% lows.

>>103222876
its ridiculous that a 8gig vram card is 300 in 2024

>>103222943
and its going to be 420+ in 2025 :')

>>103222126
2x24gb is the same price as 2x32GB and I see a lot of 48gb kits with shit timings. This RAM recommendation isn't making a lot of sense, always buy as much RAM as you can afford. New number isn't automatically better. The real recommendation should be: stick to two dimms even if you think your board/CPU can handle 4. And always aim for CL30 6000Mhz at a minimum. There is genuinely nothing more to know. Anything else is a cherry on top that one would not notice, especially on the 9800X3D.

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Is PCpartpicker a good indication of prices?
It seems this is a good price to get these.
>>103222827

>Strix 4090
>9800X3D
>x870-A
>5000D
>NH-D15 / NF-A14 140mm x2 / A12x25 120mm x3
>HX100i
>64gb 6400 CL32
>SN850X
>$8108 Kangaroo Bucks
Wew. Think of all the hookers I could have gotten instead.

>>103223030
SSD prices kinda suck right now and SATA SSDs don't see great sales anymore. Do what you gotta do but it doesn't sound amazing

>>103223055
>SATA SSDs don't see great sales anymore
why is that? do we know?

>>103223036
apart from the cpu and gpu this is prebuilt tier scam components

bonus points if your ram is rgb. at least you didnt waste money on a 1200w psu or liquid cooling retardation i guess

Hello anons. I'm planning on buying some Noctua fans to replace my Corsair ones.
Do Noctua fans go on sale during Amazon's Black Friday sale?
Thanks

>>103223064
Smaller market compared to m2 nvme drives. People who want them buy them regardless of sales since there's not much of a choice

>>103223071
check price history

>>103223070
The MB is defs a scam but its also white which is clearly fundamentally important for performance.

>>103223078
actually would be if the pc was in the sun

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>>103223076
I looked up the NF-A12x25 on Camelcamelcamel.
This is the price history.
I'm looking to buy the NF-A14x25 G2 because it's 140mm, and it's a new fan.
Not much movement on the G2's price.
Do you think it's worth paying for Noctua when there's Arctic P14?
My mind's settled on the Noctua, but I am open to suggestions and alternatives

>>103223091
>actually would be if the pc was in the sun
Funny you mention that because that's exactly an issue in my office.

>>103223100
noctua is for if the onboard audio in your brain is faulty and cant filter white noise

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>>103221382
Will steal a 20gb+ card. Fuck these kikes.

>>103222719
aren't you excited for the future of ai, anon?

>>103223118
suisex

>>103222126
> Corsair Terminator
Did you mean Dominator? This is the faster memory from Corsair that is not needed with Rzyen. The Vengeance with 6000MHz is enough.

>>103223116
I have a UPS that's been running 24/7 for 4 years now. I'm used to it by now.
I wanted to get Noctua because it's a premium fan, and there's no RGB, so there's less cable clutter.
Corsair's new QX140 is so expensive for a clutter-free RGB solution. I'm also looking into Lian Li's Uni Fan SL Infinity.

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lg c4 42" dropped down to 820€ now here
that or a 32" qdoled? very tempting

>>103222876
Having only 2 sticks helps with compatibility and stability, but if 4 are really your cheapest option it's ok.
Noctua fans are overpriced but for cramped systems they're not a bad choice.
>>103222920
No, I actually meant 0.1% lows. I'm an autist who uses a stupidly high DPI setting so even microstutters are noticeable sometimes.

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>>103222149
Five M.2 slots, USB4, no lane sharing with GPU. Sold!

>>103223153
>five M2 slots
What's the point when you could just get one big drive, is it RAID autism?

>>103222833
your supposed to pay for only the first 2 years and then default on the rest of the payments and hope they forget about it in 20 years

>>103223189
> one big drive
There are no 20TB NVMe SSD yet. Are there? I probably couldn't afford them anyway. And I like to use different drives for different tasks to speed up my work. I usually have at least 4 drives, up to 6 with OS using a dedicated smaller drive.

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>>103223153
>no lane sharing
not possible on 800 series desu

>>103223141
42" is big as a desktop monitor first of all, don't bother if your desk isn't deep enough.

C4 doesn't allow you to disable as much "panel saving" features as the older C1/C2 so the dynamic brightness can get distracting.
Some quirks like having to use a remote to turn it on or off and the settings being all over the place (but with much better color control than monitors).

C4 and most WOLEDs also have a noticable green tint.
https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/1gew714/a_deep_dive_into_the_lg_c4_42_green_tint

How much are 32" QD-OLEDs in your country? You'd probably rather spend a bit more for one of those.

>>103223153
Asrock makes the ugliest fucking motherboards of all time.

>>103223071
Buy arctic p12 or p14 max faggot.

>>103223240
I like their pro rs and steel legend. Livemixer to a lesser extent. PG line looks is ass. Asrock rack looks amazing. I'm not sure why we don't get we can't get green motherboards anymore.

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>>103223221
I said "no lane sharing with GPU"!
All five M.2 can be populated and used at their full speed w/o taking lanes away from the GPU slot. Only the slowest of the M.2 slots (PCIe Gen 3x2) shares lanes with the second PCIe x16 slot that would run in 2x mode if used instead of the M.2.

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>>103223221
comparison to the b650 steel legend
x870/x870e gets mogged because of their requirement to have usb4

>>103223279
>All five M.2 can be populated and used at their full speed w/o taking lanes away from the GPU slot. Only the slowest of the M.2 slots (PCIe Gen 3x2) shares lanes with the second PCIe x16 slot that would run in 2x mode if used instead of the M.2.
I'm aware. The problem is the stealth downgrade that noone's talking about mainly, the loss of x4 lanes to usb4 that you'll probably never use

>>103223071
don't waste your time

>>103223230
>so the dynamic brightness can get distracting.
Can't you use the lg app on PC still if the service remote doesn't work?
You also can run 144 4k without dsc which would be good, also speakers and more ports

Alienware 32 is 50 eur cheaper if dell gives me a discount if not 50 eur more

I should have bought the Asus pg32 for 200 more on a sale, but now it's up +500 even on a sale in comparison
Alienware vs Asus is like 500e difference

Kinda not the best ports on aw and the bend but

Why don't they make more cases without a glass side panel. It's crazy, I feel like I need to pay extra to not have it.

It doesn't even affect me either, because my computer is on my left, but I just feel like an idiot knowing there is a glass panel out of everyone's view against the wall.

>>103223373
thats why i got the fd north mesh
it didnt cost extra and in fact cost less than the TG version

>>103221891
Ask the manufacturer to sell you one of those side panels or tell them that you just bought one of those cases and the side panel came scratched

>>103223300
Of course the lanes are scarce and you need to consider what you prefer. If you know that you won't need USB4 then you can get a X670E instead. People who need both x16 slots functional for high-bandwidth GPUs won't buy a Nova either. But the Nova is the best all-round and poor guy's workstation motherboard and was initially to be had for just €347 here, cheaper than X870E premium boards. A no brainer.

>>103223376
Same here with beQuiet Silent Base 802.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXhonX7ZXGY

BUY OLED

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>>103223074
>tfw my m.2 sockets are full
So $170 for 2 drives (3TB) is just ok. I see.
Well.

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>so many anons discussing PCIe lanes and support for a gorillion drives and devices
>nobody even mentions Threadripper because they're all posers who do no real work and only care about gayming and consooming the overkill new thing

>>103223487
threadripper sounds gay and you are probably a faggot

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>>103223487
>only care about gayming

>>103222066
Buy a used cpu and GPU and you'll be able to afford it.
Both my 5600x and 6800xt are both used and no issues for 3 years now+

>>103222117
>surely you are not listing your prices without tax when posting here RIGHT
>>103222032
What? So seriously all the msrp prices shown at presentations are without tax?

>>103223487
> Threadripper
Too expensive unless you can lower your income tax with it.

>>103223515
>What? So seriously all the msrp prices shown at presentations are without tax?
Yes because the USA does not have a single country-wide sales tax rate
The sales tax rate an individual pays depends on their state sales tax, potentially county sales tax, and municipal sales tax.
The latter two can vary widely even if two locations are geographically next to each other

i want o buy a recertified HDD for hoarding, i dont understand this 512e/4Kn. I am on w10 ltsc, all i want is to back up data on an external 3.5'' hdd with usb3

here's what wikipedia says

>512e - e stands for emulation - 4K physical sectors on the drive media with 512 byte logical configuration

>4Kn - n stands for native - 4K physical sectors on the drive media and 4K configuration reported to the host

>4K-ready host - A host system which works equally well with legacy 512 as well as 512e hard disk drives

>>103223529
>something being tax deductible makes it a good purchase
I hate this retarded normalfag meme

>>103223542
the absolute state of the states

>>103223487
I don't need the threadripper yet. I'll be fine with my 7900x. Although I regret not getting 7950x sometimes.

>>103223542
So you're telling me I've been seething at the "low" Newegg prices for no reason? Lmao, ordering a GPU right now.

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-clearing-geforce-rtx-40-inventory-rtx-4070-on-short-supply-making-room-for-early-2025-rtx-5070-launch

NVIDIA WON

THANK YOU NVIDIA

>>103223612
4070ti S performance for $700, no thanks

are we back?

Im on the fence between a 4090 and 4080S for 1440p someone tell me what to get and no I don't want to get a 5000.

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>>103223610
man, they still got it better than us

>>103223651
7900XTX

>>103223651
4090 gets 35-36k in Timespy at stock
7900XTX gets the same score after spending 5 minutes in adrenaline

>>103223426
fucking tvs cunt

>>103223703
240hz MSI ones, E2 variant, go for $600 in states
it's a proper price for them.

>>103223702
>Time spy is a game

>>103223714
Timespy results are on par with DX12 AAA results without RT. If two GPUs score the same then they get the same fps in Cyberpunk (without RT)

>>103223714
3dmark gives you game results based from your score and you can compare with others. These are more accurate than any retarded YouTuber or anon you hear from here.

>>103223714
price perf for 1440p specifically 7900XT is the king. 4090 is pure 4k card, it shines there, but gap isn't as wide at 1440p
7900XTX is a middle of the road btween 4090 and 4080S if you can get it under $1k

>14900k is better on paper compared to 9800x3d or even 7800x3d
>/g/ still prefers AMD

please explain yourselves, I wanna build a system and I have been eying the 14900k for ages and now its cheap I wanna do it but you guys are keeping me from it

>>103223651
Triple the AI tops with 4090 and even close ot that with 4080s.
DLSS and other features are all about that number. DLSS is the present and the future and AMD is even moving to ML upscaling as well.
Nvidia cards are also way more efficient. A 4090 with a fps limit would consume less wattage than a 4070 let alone AMD ones who all feel like they take at least double for every task.

>>103223727
To be fair in terms of gaming benchmark I only look at hardware unboxed since they use good hardware and solid ram timings as well so it's the ideal condition for gaming.

>>103223189
m.2 is retarded autism. the real world benefit of nvme vs sata is negligible and disk i/o is bottlenecked by operating system overhead

pcie drives are good at clonezilla though

>>103223737
Intel is about to go bankrupt and bust without massive intervention. They're a company of idiots who wasted every chance to get ahead. It doesn't matter what their parts are, they're unreliable for people who usually buy a CPU/GPU once every 3-10 years.

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>>103223737
is this bait? I can't tell.

>>103223189
takes no space.

>>103223753
m.2 took the worst part of building a PC and made it a complete non-issue.

>>103223754
I been using my 6700k for 8 years and its only now starting to become slow

Is it really that bad?

>>103223757
No im not a tech autist

>>103223753
having two drives instead of one is far worse for your system latency, as in your 1% lows in games than having just a single one that runs both the OS and the game. Fact
any incurred cost can be mitigated by buying a much faster SSD hence why nvme

>>103223766
this too, I'd replace all my drives with m.2 if I could afford it. I got 3 slots and use only one.

>>103223770
Anon I don't want to insult people as soon as I wake up but you're saying this: I am dumb and lazy and also a mass quoting retard.
Tell me that I'm wrong.

>>103223782
Just answer the question please I dont wanna fucking play games of who knows best like I said im a tech noob thats why I ask

>>103223770
>No
Real answer then, 14900k is dead and nobody should ever buy it aside from melting inside it draws like 300w to get near X3D chips. Intel is nearing bankruptcy, and 9800X3D isn't slower, are you a userbenchmark reader? wtf

>>103223071
Noctua barely goes on sale, I think retailers make no margin on them

>>103223737
>better on paper
according to whom?

>>103223737
/g/ is only about consumerism and media shilling
Of course tuned 14900K is better than x3d chips, but who cares if they're e-celebs said that there something wrong with them(hint: this faggot techbloggers have no clue what they're talking about).

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>>103223796
Yes im googling the comparison, but its better but according to you guys its not?

Then why do they say its better?

>>103223766
worst part of building a pc is fan cables

sata drives you just plug in and shove under the shroud and snugly jam in the cable mass no prob no screws required

>>103223737
Please be joking i have a 13600k which is basically the same thing and its slow as fuck giving me flashbacks to an aweful 1600x i had this feels slower even though its almost been a decade

>>103223811
Yes thats what I was afraid of, that this website is full of fanboys..

So I should just go with the 14900k then?

>>103223816
I just plug them into the fan hub?

>>103223817
how is it slow then? The speed is the speed... Maybe you are doing something wrong on your PC then?

>>103223812
Ever crossed your mind to seek out info from more than one source? Then you would notice that userbenchmark is pretty much the only source that recommends the intel one.

>>103223702
As someone who has a 79xtx they dont all oc that well out of the box and if you have a 3x8pin pcb they wre fast enough out of the box but i noticed zero difference oc vs stock
The 2x8pin i agree was shit and absolutely needed tuning
Amds drivers have gotten worse again since they fired the rtg guys since October

>>103223841
what other source? I googled speeds and multiple websites say 14900k is faster it can go up to 6ghz and has more cores too

>>103223826
Not doing anything wrong have good ram 3200cl16 which makes zero difference vs ddr5 in benchmarks its just slow in certain games sometimes 20-50% vs a 98x3d build

If I'm planning on replacing all my fans with noctua fans, what would be a good case (no AIO, all air cooling)? Seems like on nicer cases you are paying for fans, so something cheap, right?

>>103223737
the only way you're going to keep up with a 9800X3D with a 14900k is to buy 10 or more of them, take the one that is best binned, delid it, liquid cool, and then finally thermal cycle all of your hardware while tuning 50 times

>>103223426
>OMG no one demands 77-42 inch OLEDs
>buy now!!!
no shit

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>>103223812
>Userbenchmark
you have to be trolling

>>103223854
but the 14900k goes to 6ghz and the 9800x3d only to like 5ghz?

how can it be faster then?

>>103223864
like I said im not a tech autist so explain why its wrong

>>103223872
there are more factors that go into performance than hz

>>103223872
Pentium 4 can go to 8 GHz buy that

>>103223842
There's already a 7900xtx tier list straight from AMD. The cards with higher ppt limits have higher asic quality. Any card that isn't a 328A TDC limit is basically shit.

>>103223819
It depends.
If it's only about gaming then go for 13600K/14600K, with manual OC and tuned ram you can achieve more performance than 14900KS at stock.
I'm not an upgradefag but I really want to see that 12-p core Bartlett lake, otherwise I would suggest getting 14900K.

>>103223901
maybe i go with 9800x3d then if everyone says, or maybe older 7800x3d? is big difference?

>>103223873
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHH11AplyLc
usershillmark is not a credible source and has an extremely blatant intel bias

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>>103223842
I get my best game scores using the creators guru3d drivers and bang4buckpcgamer oc settings. Scoring better than 4080 super and on par with 4090 in multiple games. The card draws a lot of power but that's what PTM is for and if you're already buying a 4090 you should already have a overkill PSU.

>>103223910
why are you looking at high end processors if you can't even look up benchmarks? buy the cheapest intel i3 prebuilt and you will never know the difference.

>>103223923
but with gaming do they mean getting fastest call of duty frame rate?

cause i also do like cpu intensive shit like simulation games or multi tasking and compiling stuff

>>103223931
>Why do you wanna drive fast cars if you dont know how this very detailed technical part within the engine works?

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>>103223819
No because you should check technical results and not the omen in the coffee.
>While we normally analyze Core-to-Core latency on new CPUs, the fact that Intel's 14th and 13th Gen are identical architecturally, we opted to omit this from our testing.
Pic related.

>>103223923
what a horrible video, adhd shit i didnt understand anything

>>103223939
WHy do you want to drive a fast card if you're going to respect the same speed limit? Just status symbol?

>>103223940
9950x is different than 9800x3d

>>103223961
I do more than just play fucking call of duty i dont care about gaming performance like some zoomer i also use multi tasking stuff cpu intensive simulation games which require high clockspeeds and so on