RDNA5 = UDNA.
GCN style ALU
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-9000-udna-gpus-reportedly-enter-mass-production-in-q2-2026-udna-also-for-playstation-6

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>>103240723
How significant is the performance benefit for the Ryzen 9000x series on Linux?

>>103240723
anyone bought the 265k yet?
also seeing crazy hot deals on prebuilt with 14900k/4090/64gb/2tb for $3k

There has to be a better/faster way to be notified of deliveries. It's insane how long it takes. I had a package dropped off at 4:14, and was signed up for text alerts from UPS. I didn't get the alert until 4:32. And I just now received the email alert from the merchant. The only reason I know the exact time is because that's what it says on the delivery, and I happened to answer the door when the guy dropped it off.

I haaaaate the idea of my several hundred/potentially a few thousand dollar packages just sitting outside for even a few minutes these days. I am considering renting a PO Box specifically for the 5090 when it drops in January.
>inb4 get a Ring
No, fuck you. I know all that information goes straight into their databases. They don't get to know when I come and go.

>>103240752
I want to build but there's no mobo with backside power connector

Hello frens. How's this build looking for a brand new pc (no previous one) just to play some BG3, TWWarhammer and Space Marine II at 1440, and hopefully to last for a bit. Budget is about 1.3k € (spanish eurocuck)

https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/xgQGfd

am5 refresh with improved io when?
am5x3d refresh with improved io when?
Imagine if amd went all out and improved memory

Can anyone explain to a retard how do I setup a fan curve that won't fry my gpu but doesn't sound like a fucking jet engine? Got myself 6800xt and so far it's great but in some games (CP2077 or some UE5 shit) it just starts taking off.

>>103240723
*smooch*

>>103240778
You buy an overbuilt 40 series card with fuckhuege heatsink+ cooler and never have to worry about it hitting 70c even when pulling 300w, my card at full load sits at 65c at 60% fan speed

x870e nova or msi carbon? both same price

>>103240754
>They don't get to know when I come and go.
and yet you keep your phone with you at all time?
interesting.

>>103240794
Nova. This isn't even a question.

>>103240778
new or used? if its used it needs a repaste, preferably with ptm7950 or kyrosheet.

my sapphire pulse never went above 38% fanspeed.

>>103240778
how is your airflow in the case looking?

>>103240752
>265K
nobody is buying that shit.

>>103240853
He asked the same thing yesterday and was told the same thing. I don't think he's being sincere.

>>103240778
find out how hot your GPU gets during cyberslop or ue5. then test how low you can go with the max fan speed at that temperature before it starts rising even more. from there you adjust the max fan speed up to a noise level you can live with. my GPU stays well below 75 on about 60% fan speed which is pretty quiet.
obviously make sure your GPU gets the airflow it needs. bottom intakes work wonders if they have enough pressure and breathing room.

>>103240818
why exactly?

>>103240898
Google 'AM5 Motherboard Spreadsheet'. Open the document, click on the X870E tab and compare the lane-sharing, bifurcation, and other notes sections between the two. I can't link it here because 4chan thinks it's spam, but it should become extremely obvious once you look at the Nova's notes and then look at the Carbon's notes.

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>>103240774
splurge a bit more on gpu, the build should usually be more lopsided towards gpu nowadays
with that gpu you will never hit 180hz anyways, so either downscale with monitor and go higher on gpu or find some more money to pour into gpu
stick with amd of course, and keep in mind new gpus are coming so think about your time horizon and how that's going to affect the prices

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Is there anything wrong with this build (aside cancerous prices)? How important is it to choose RAM from the recommended mobo list?

>>103240723
Should I be buying a high end cooling solution if I pony up for the 9900x/9950x?

>>103240852
3 intake fans on front and 2 out on the top/back. To be fair, my case has a pretty bad intake.

Waiting on Dell to register mail so one can acquire discount code, can take up to 72h for it to work, still not working. 48h has passed now. We wait.

>>103240774
Everything looks fine for the most part imo. The only hangup is probably the RX 7600XT, since the performance increase over the regular RX 7600 is not worth the price increase. The only thing the XT has going for it is the increased amount of VRAM.

That build should be at least competent at 1440p, but I agree with >>103240929 , if you can spend a bit more on the GPU.

>>103240970
Why would you ever buy a dell

>>103240936
Looking good, chief

>>103241170
nta
for people that dont know how to build a pc but want one
me included

>>103241247
Please don't buy hp/dell proprietery e waste shit, you cannot even upgrade anything if you want in the future

>>103240774
I'm a FPS autist, I would tell you to get a 4060 + 9800x3d and run on low settings + turn on DLSS.
>no stock
True, I can't help with that, I'm sure other anons could help if you asked.

https://www.msi.com/Promotion/ultra-connect-to-new-era
Got my $30 steam code from msi (with a Tomahawk for my new 9800x3d build)
With this the Tomahawk costs like $250 if you are paying for games.

>>103240778
Put your case under the table like an adult person

>>103240778
undervolting my 1660 ti worked really well with getting a bit higher FPS while being silent, I used to only use a frame limiter and it didn't work very well.
I also should try redoing the paste, but if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

>>103241266
i wouldn’t know how to upgrade it though. they have trade in deals to

>>103241320
is that an ad?

>>103241376
Yeah for sure lil bro
by the way I bought two 9800x3d's two days in a row and returned the more expensive one

>>103241386
>by the way I bought two 9800x3d's two days in a row and returned the more expensive one
Why wouldn't you just resell it for 1.5x?

>>103241421
I could sell it for at most 15% profit, not worth my time considering I have to waste my time to sell it locally

Where are some good black friday deals?

Looking for a 4090.

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>zen6 to come in 2027
what the heck will amd do in 2025 and 2026?

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>new gpu doesn't have rbg card name

;_;

Mobo: ROG Crosshair X670E Hero
CPU: Ryzen 9 7950X
GPU: RTX 4090 FE (if relevant)

I want a 4x48GB (192GB) DDR5 kit - what gives me the best chance of getting 5200MHz minimum to run stable?

>>103241513
>owns a 1070
>cables from CableMod
Hm.

>>103241478
>Looking for a 4090.
Look next year, lmao.

>>103241478
high end hardware doesn't get discounted

>>103240939
if by that you mean a liquid freezer III, yes.

>>103241505
its coming out Q4 2026

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>got a 3070ti that runs at 1.025v near 300w
>undervolt it to .925V and run it slightly faster
>230W and cooler
Why do they ship these products with these default settings? Got an additional +1000mhz on the memory as well.

>>103241505
your girlfriend is cute

>>103240752
yeah, i used it for a week. got the best of myself and switched to a 9950x

>265k build was more stable and obviously cheaper

>>103240776
>improved I/o
aint gone happen

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>>103241566
>Google cablemod after seeing this post, because I never heard of them
>They're selling refurbished 4090s for $1200
What's the catch? That seems really cheap given they claim to have a pretty thorough repair / testing process.

>>103241645
You could buy it and make evidence of everything.
And if they fuck it up sell it to tech jesus.

Although you are fucked if it dies after 2 years.

Is ok to use drives that are mean to be system drives such as the sn770 for secondary storage? or is just a waste of money?

>>103241505
Let am4chads get more value out of 5700x3d's

>buy USB-C 10ft braided 3 pack for suspiciously cheap (3 x $3.33)
>it smells like burnt rubber
>appears as high quality as the 1 x $10.99 10ft Anker
interesting

I'm still rocking this beast. Never did end up filling all of the hard drive bays with anime porn, only 3 and 2 SDD.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBhmn21ylkc

Is one fan in the front and one in the back really still enough when I get a 4070tiS and 5700x3d?
Kinda want a smaller case without pointless disk drive bays but everything I see I don't see any HDD bays?

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Just got this for $60 was it a good deal? It went up to $80 the right after i bought it for whatever reason

I have a Samsung 950 PRO 512GB M.2 PCIe NVMe
says online it has 2,500MB/s and 1,500MB/s

Is it actually worth upgrading the m.2 to Kingston KC3000 that does 7k read/6k write? Is it even noticeable unless you are copying huge files which almost never happens?

>>103241819
>speed
No. High loading speeds are a meme right now.
>512gb
Yes, 1tb+ is already today's standard.

>>103240723
>run rx560
>need to upgrade cause games run like trash
>most games are trash
>refuse fake frames
Is it over for me now that AMD has given up?

>>103241797
It's a pretty good purchase. I'd buy one if I could.

Anyone got any suggestions on wireless mice? I am looking for something that's not shit, obviously, but also comes in white or white & black.

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>>103241958
M575

>>103241994
>trackball
No. And this is coming from someone who was forced to use a trackball for a year to deal with carpal tunnel. I'll never go back.

>>103240778
I set two (2) modes for this 6800xt. Idle is 13% and load is 37% with the trigger set at 55 degrees.

Are wireless mouse still bad? If not which wireless mouses would you recommend?

>feel like buying a heatsink for nvme just for the novelty of it
Some of them look so funky and ugly that they’re kinda cute

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>Use Case
Vidya and general use
>Resolution
1440p
>Currency/Country
Australia

Current build is an RTX 2080 + i5 9600k + 16GB RAM from very early 2019. Is pic related alright? I'm now on neetbux for a few months so I'd like to squeeze in an upgrade. I already have the OS, storage, peripherals, case (forgot to remove it so ignore the cost it adds), and some aftermarket fans. I'm gonna rip my current build out and put it in an old case to give to a friend (or sell for very cheap) so he can put his own storage and OS in later.

How big of a jump will I get going from a Ryzen 3600 to a 5700x3D at 1440p? I'm thinking of just upping my ram to 32GB and dropping in a 5700x3D and riding out AM4 for another 5 years.

Would you spend 200$ more for a 4070 super->4070 ti super

>am retard
>built first pc
>7600x on an msi pro b650m-a wifi
>just one ssd in the primary m.2 slot
>no os preinstalled
>plug monitor and keyboard into mobo (cpu has integrated graphics)
>turn on
>fans spin up
>screen stays in sleep mode
>spamming delete key does not bring up bios
>caps lock light does not show when i press it
>same problem when i plug monitor into gpu
>same problem with a flash drive with a linux iso plugged in
is there something simple i'm missing?

>>103242113
still bad

>>103240741
https://www.phoronix.com/review/ryzen-9600x-9700x/16

>>103242187
$200 is nothing in the grand scheme of things, gaming is a pretty cheap hobby
go for whatever you can make use of with your monitor, the true bottleneck is your monitor

>>103242206
AM5. Give it 5-10m or so.
Or could be you missed something.

>>103241537
You can just as well buy 2x2x kit. Just don't mix the sticks of the two kits. You can get 6000MHz stable but you need to go deep into manual memory settings in BIOS. Why do you own a ROG Crosshair Hero if you don't know this?

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>>103240723
I'm not building a pc, I just came into this thread because Mokuren is in the OP

>>103242206
memory training

Is there much of a difference at all between the B650E Steel Legend and the X870 Steel Legend? Quick glance makes them seem damn near identical

>>103242285
NTA. I don't think it's supposed to take that long. my new AM5 build booted in <30s and brought me to the windows fTMP screen.

>>103242301
x870 supports usb 4

>>103242305
Boards are different
My b650 gigabyte board took 5m whereas my riptide was 10s

>>103240898
It's better in every aspect except perhaps looks:
https://www.igorslab.de/en/asrock-phantom-gaming-x870e-nova-wifi-in-test-cheap-taichi-alternative-with-experience-report-teardown-material-testing-and-thermal-modding/

Thoughts on the Kingston KC3000? Is it still a tier-1 SSD? Or is the phison bug too much of a problem?

>>103242284
oouuhhh

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planning on building a cheap linux pc as a christmas gift for my dad. simple web browsing nothing fancy. usa, budget about $600. planning on getting 2 cheap $70 philips monitors from amazon as well. any suggestions for a better mobo so i dont have to worry about updating bios?

>>103242336
Didn't know that, now I know better.

>>103240936
Not too important, is the PSU atx 3.1? For this price I'd personally go for corsair or superflower. Why is the mobo so expensive? The monitor is probably very good, I got viewsonic 27" 1440p 240hz for around the same price. How much more is wd black sn850x?

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Lmao

>>103242378
asrock b550m hdv or b550m pro4?

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>enable PBO
>9800x3d temps drop by 20 degrees

>>103242340
>phison bug
I didn't know about this, according to boredcraft autist its still tier 1.

>>103242449
who tf is boredcraft autist?

>>103242206
Are there debug leds on the mother board? Take the GPU out completely and try to boot. Also, could be a RAM issue, boot with one of the sticks in the correct slots and switch slots.

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>>103242278
>>103242285
been like 40 minutes

i checked the debug leds
the cpu and dram leds are both on

what do

>>103242463
Sorry, its borecraft
Here: https://ssd.borecraft.com/SSD_Buying_Guide.png

>>103242469
Most likely RAM issue, like I said remove the gpu, try with one stick at a time.

>>103242469
Move ram to slots 2 and 4

>>103242340
they patched it day 1, Kingston aren't up their own ass unlike Samsung

>>103242337
You should've told me before, I would've bought this instead of x870 pro rs wifi.

>>103242507
Every person here has said the Nova is the best bang for your buck since it's been a thing you could buy.

My Taichi arrived. It's so heavy that I thought someone had swapped the contents of the box for bricks.

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Do cold cathodes or their inverters cause interference with anything?
I plan for 6 of them

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>m.2 gen 4 will have to be put on the Gen 5 slot until the Gen 5 M.2s become relevant
at least the mobo will be somewhat future proof

>>103242526
I bought it couple of days after launch and it was priced very competitively.

are OLED monitors comparable to phones now in terms of reliability (and lack of burn in)
havent noticed any burn in on my phone despite the static UI in the usual areas

also going through this review and im really tempted to just dump the $1k+ for a monitor

>>103242624
well you do suffer from having to baby the monitor
theres the pixel refresh you need to wait out, pixel shifting, automatic brightness limiting on some models, need to hide taskbar and honestly you'd be better off having 2 monitors where the OLED is only used for media like games and anime

Please shill me your favorite full/mid size cases that do NOT have windows or RGB.

Noctua needs to take the stick out of their ass and start producing all white/black fans with RGB. They should also abandon their air coolers and start making AIOs.

>>103242489
Woo, it works now, I think the ram wasn't seated properly. It's uncomfortable how much force it takes to put some of these connectors into place on a 1.6mm thick circuit board. The main PSU plug was even worse.

Still have yet to put the GPU back in though.

>>103242283
Only clueless boomers buy Asus hero boards tbf

>>103242437
You don't need that.
t. b450m pro4 with 5700x3d

>>103242752
That nigga doesn't want to update the bios.

>>103242552
I paid €347 when it initially appeared at mindfactory. Currently it's €367 there, still a great deal.

why do we need 32gb ram now

>>103242777
>why do we need 32gb ram now
Electron apps and chrome and gaymes.

>>103242777
We need 96GB now.

>>103242777
64gb is the new minimum if you want to alt tab while gayming.

>>103242777
AI eats both vram and ram

>>103242814
>alt tab
two monitors is the bare minimum

>>103242777
some games are using 16gb

>>103242176
Big jump, need a good gpu as well thoughbeit

>>103242777
16 of those is used to run windows AI

>>103242844
2 monitors is for retards who can't alt tab

>>103240723
>Samsung 990 Pro (Windows only)
>Windows only
Why?

>>103242284
please stop posting pictures with little girls in suggestive poses. i read this general at work

>>103242926
requires windows-specific software to get the most out of the drive

>>103242954
she's just stretching

>>103242964
Huh, interesting. Something in that magician software? What is it?

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>>103242954
>suggestive
That's your dirty mind speaking

>>103240723
Wow are those monitor recommendations terrible

>>103242697
Just built a PC with the be quiet Pure Base 500, it's nice but the dual USB3 plug on the front of my mobo interferes with the front SSD mounting plate so I had to ditch that plate.

>>103243064
stick around here long enough and youll realize that everything in the op, except links to other resources, is horseshit and should be outright ignored

Are there any recommended 1440p monitors that are better than, say, the aoc q27g3xmn, but still come in below $500? It seems like they all have huge drawbacks in that price range until you get into OLEDs at around $600 or so

BATTLEMAGE

>>103243084
The case / cooler recommendations seem fine.

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intel a shit
>captcha: AYY8P

What's the best white mobo for a 9800X3D? X870 Steel Legend seems fine, and the Aorus Pro Ice is like 100 bucks more and doesn't seem like all that much more for the price.

>watch some videos testing the 7700k in 2023 and 2024
>gets over 60 fps in pretty much everything
>doesn't really stutter
>remember 60% of the most popular games are 5+ years old anyway
>and about 99.3% of all good games in general
What's the point anons. I'm sitting here on a 14900k and 4080 playing dungeon crawl stone soup webtiles. Why.

>>103243084
the RAM recommendations are basic and good

but lol why is the HDV mobo even recommended, it's barely a step up above the cheap budget mobos in terms of VRM temps

>>103243240
i upgraded for monster hunter wilds and before 2025 just in case

>>103243269
Nothing can fix mh milds

>>103243253
it has good reviews

>>103240723
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=At3256ASxlA

Save intel please

I have $1000, help me spend it anons

Good morning /pcbg/, any issues with this?
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/vVGkTM
Aiming for under $1000, it's fine if it goes over a little. The 2060 is $0 because I already have it.
Also do I need to buy anything separately (i.e. thermal paste, wires/cables, antistatic wrist strap?)
If there's anything you think I should replace, I will replace it. Nothing on my list was chosen with any sense of certainty.

do oled monitors get discounted on blacked friday

>>103243363
Paste comes with a cooler
Just wear shoes indoors lmao

>>103243240
i upgraded so i can play early 2000s classics like deus ex/system shock 2 at 4k120+ with sgssaa

>>103242624
Honestly if your room is usually dark, you can set the brightness to 50% and it'll last 5 years

>>103241645
The repair shop Cablemod contracted (NorthridgeFix) to fix all the burnt-up power connectors did a sloppy job with replacing the 12V power connectors in the card.
He uses too much heat to quickly remove the burnt-out parts and guys like Northwest Repair end up re-doing his handiwork from time to time.

>>103243388
my room has windows on two sides that i leave open in the day and even at night i like to have the lights on

Picked up the 7600x3d bundle tonight, had a $25 off coupon so that brought it down to 375 pre tax. I'm going to replace the ram and resell the ram that came in the bundle, but it still saved me a huge amount from buying these parts separately.

They absolutely would not budge on substituting parts in the bundles. Said corporate got on their ass about it a month ago and they no longer can. In fact it's so rigid, if they're out of one of the parts for one of the bundles they can't sell the bundle until said part comes back in

>>103243396
OLED can struggle in well lit environments because it usually dont get as bright as LED displays and max brightness accelerates burn-in too

>>103243392
isnt the whole point of it to get a burst of high heat directed as best as you can to quickly get the borked shit off without melting the solder of surrounding parts?

What should I pair with my 4070 ti super? Still running an R5 5600x.

>>103243463
9800X3D

>>103240929
>>103240972

Thanks anons, I'll think about it. Which gpu would be an improvement and when are new gpus coming? I mainly want a smooth pc that can be upgraded in the future. I don't really want the most fps just a good rig that will last for a bit. Maybe I should downgrade to 1080 and build from there.

I thought that 12 vram is preferred to 8, but will 8gb be fine?

>>103241287

Is there a big difference between the 7600 and a 4060?

>>103241478
alienware
USD$3K for:
14900kf/4090/64gb/2tb with windows 11 home, 240mm aio, and 1000w platinum psu
their 4k oled monitor is 900 as well
the 4090 off the shelf is 2200 alone

4chan bros...
What's a good small-ish case that can
1) be taken apart easily to build (I am going to murder someone if I get another case that will make it hard to put together an mATX build)
2) Will fit a 360 mm AIO

>>103243463
5700x3d if you want a cheap upgrade. Otherwise go to AM5

should I return my 32gb ram and go for 64gb? I was hoping to find some for $150 but I couldnt

>>103242378
mac mini for 600

>>103243530
get 96gb for 170
>https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2bbRsY/gskill-ripjaws-s5-96-gb-2-x-48-gb-ddr5-5200-cl40-memory-f5-5200j4040a48gx2-rs5w

>>103243525
air 100

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Convince me not to buy it

>>103243575
it wont make you any happier than you are now

>>103243575
cpu to old

>>103243570
i thought it was better to go for increments of doubles?
16, 32, 64, 128, etc

>>103243570
>>103243587
wait that's not even 6000

Is cable management and figuring out which cables go where actually the only hard part about building pcs? And even then, most of that is easily guided by just reading your case’s manual?

>>103243413
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7lvwVuweiU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqoywPc6BtQ
The second vid isn't a NorthridgeFix catastrophe, but the host explains how sloppily NF repairs video cards.
KrisFix-Germany was the best video card repairer on YouTube, but he's probably too busy fixing broken video cards from all of Europe.

>>103243575
AM4 is a dead platform

>>103243597
that won't matter if you have an x3d otherwise yeah, stick to 6000

>>103243587
there is no such rule. bigger is just better if you can afford it

>>103243610
There are some quirky shit like some ASRock boards not playing nice with a few Corsair SSDs.
The cause of some of these issues were the drive being in MBR format when Windows installation need them to be in GPT format.
Then there's some other strange shit below.
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/98798915/#98803488

It's probably sorted out by now because of the popularity of Corsair SSDs.

>>103243575
Not that good of a deal, you can build a 5700X system for a similar cost.
And I'm pretty sure they won't have a better SSD than the SN850X, same goes for the PSU.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7fH7h7

Windows license, there are ways to get it for free, check /fwt/

>>103243528
I'm thinking of going AM5 in around 5-6 months so I'll have enough money. Only main requirements I need are 3 M.2 slots for my motherboard.

>>103241028
to guy last thread:
thanks again for responding. i think i will steer clear of mac simply because of the compatibility issues with a lot of games, plus i know how windows works already. like i implied, battery wouldnt be a *huge* factor because i will likely be in a situation to at least charge it in use. that is very interesting to know that you can simply turn off the gpu to save battery; is that easy to do? also, i actually do have a steam deck... but the model i have doesn't have wifi 6 compatibility for some reason, so unless i have the chance to use hotel wifi or a wifi 5 network (i've looked at the places i frequent, no dice), i can't really download more games onto it. very disappointed in valve.
overall though, i would say i just want the uses of a desktop (gaming, browsing, media storage) in a mobile format, and i want to have it all in one device; im willing to suffer non-maximal gaming performance and lesser quality than a thousand dollar monitor for the sake of it being mobile. so, i decided i would probably like a laptop. it would game better than my phone/deck, it would be less of a headache to organize media than an android tablet, and have the QoL (wireless mouse, usb slots for external storage, desktop websites, actually good size screen, easy to mod games) that those other devices lack.
browsing amazon, ive found an hp victus 15.6 gaming laptop with just a 3050, which sounds fine enough for the games i would play on it. what do you think? is hp a good brand these days?

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Wondering if someone can help a retard out. I bought a PSU off Newegg and it came with "Super Flower MEGACOOL 140mm fan, Triple-Pack, 12-pole motor" model: SF-PF141-BK_3P.

It comes with a remote control to control the fans, but I have no idea how this is supposed to work. Each fan obviously has their own fan cable, and then an extension, and they threw in a SATA cable with a female connection. I want to use these for the top of my case because apparently they're very good and I got them free, so bonus, but I don't know how to control them. Let alone how I am supposed to daisy chain all of them together. The box came with no instructions aside from a note that the SATA connector needed to be used if I was using more than one of these fans together but as I mentioned I've got no idea how to daisy chain them since the cables that came with them don't allow for it.

>>103243610
If you're building something in the middle of the pack? Yeah, basically. Mainly because at that price point all of the stuff will work without a fuss. There is basically a bell curve. If you are buying very cheap, you are likely buying what you have to and that can mean you are buying substandard parts with bad QC, or has more quirks about what works with what and is poorly documented if at all. Meanwhile on the other end, if you are building something very high end with all of the newest parts and using some niche stuff and you're pushing performance then you are also likely to run into QC issues due to these being new batch products, there being undocumented or unknown conflicts, a lack of software updates, critical flaws that were overlooked, etc.

Hello all!
US, budget of around 15-1600. Is this a good first time-PC build?
I'm just trying to upgrade from my shitty "gaming laptop" I got that's like, a 3050

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7q3gLc

I found a prebuilt with a Ryzen 5 7600 for around 540 euros or 570-80 usd. The other components don't really impress me, it has a gtx 1650, one stick of 16gb ram, stock cooler, as for ssd and motherboard i don't really remember.
Is it a good price for an AM5 prebuilt that I can upgrade? All I'm really thinking about upgrading are the cooler and the ram, for which i'd have to spend roughly another 130 euros, 140 usd.
Is it a good deal?

>>103240723
where's the ventral fishnet?

How do I check RAM clearance with CPU Coolers? I don't know what I'm doing.

I'm getting a cheap gaming laptop (need the portability).

Right now i'm between Lenova LOQ
(83JC0023MX) and Acer Nitro V15 (NH.QPEED.00C).

I'm probably gonna go with the LOQ because they seem to have a better rep overall and they aren't as loud. Yes i know about the Intel motherboard issues, this has an AMD Ryzen 7.

Second opinions?

>>103243925
Get a steam deck

>>103243853
tell a big booty bitch to put on fishnet stockings

Should I get the X870 Steel Legend or the X870 Aorus Elite ICE? Going for a white aesthetic

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>>103240723
hello, what is the most reliable brand of mouse and keyboard now? I’ve had 3 logitechs fail within the first couple of months since covid

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Mighty gook PSU goes hard handled 7900xtx with ease old 1200w one cooked itself

>>103244032
My g403 worked for 7 years with no issues. I switched it for silent click, m650 3 months back, still on first battery and I use it 12h a day, silent click are really nice if you got speakers.
I also have Leopold keyboard with black switches working for 8 years.
My advice is, treat mouse as consumable and get decent keyboard it will work for good decade or two.

>>103244070
>old 1200w one cooked itself
did it just stop working or something burnt? why not simple get soemthing liek corsair 1000 RMX? they solid and you don't need more wattage for xtx.

>>103243925
is the lenovo one with ryzen 7 7435HS and 4050?I dont recommend gaming laptop, especially at cheaper price, you are gonna find yourself running games at lower settings even with dlss
Anyway, the lenovo one seems to be better one here, it has an additional m.2 pcie for ssd

>>103244103
Yes it is. And i'm not planning on going to top settings and screaming "Why does it stutter!" Just to be able to jump to my ever increasing backlog of stuff like God of War, Darktide and Starfield is enough. I'll usually play most stuff with highly customized performance settings anyway. I'll take the leap to to 2k and 4k eyegasming when i can actually afford it. (Never) :(

>>103240738
PS5 isn't even 5 years old yet [spoiler]TuT[/spoiler] they're already planning for PS6? anyway i'm not expecting anything good at it reall considering the PS5 Pro's reception.

>>103244074
I appreciate the response. I don’t really like wireless mice but I will look around

>>103244223
>I don’t really like wireless mice but I will look around
no practical difference these days, I can perfect parry in Sekiro without issue.

>>103241505
luv s21

>>103244210
>already planning for PS6?
because it's that easy when you use same platform.

>>103243525
>smallish case
>360mm aio

>>103241505
>what the heck will amd do in 2025 and 2026?
sell EPYC to everyone
early 2027 is like new gen for everything because of the way 2nm goes into mass production. 2nm will be fun times.

>>103242187
For 1080p now and for ages 4070 super is enough, for somewhat decent 1440p 4070 Ti super might be the minimum you need to get.

>>103242624
Aren't most phones on ~100 nits all day long as they auto set their brightness?
Also I doubt that the average phone user sits at least 6 hours per day on the phone with 200 nits+ brightness without ever closing the screen once.

So on average that would explain why phone users don't get burnins but on average tv and monitor users get them.

>>103242844
Not if you're serious about your 1% lows. Also if someone is serious about 1% lows chances are that keybinds are his second nature so there's no need for a second monitor.

>>103244279
on the other note, it seems like MI350 is decently popular too, moronds chase the serverfire hazard Blackwell smart people just build supercomputers on cheap for 90% of the result.
If RDNA4 pricing is right they may even make profit this time with gamign GPUs, which is stretch but fingers crossed nothign etarded happens, I'd say AMD is in a way solid position thatn Nvidia.
Nvidia can crash and burn ack to being only gaing company any moment if AI doesn't make profit in these two years.

>>103243090
I've bought a dirt cheap and good 1080p instead, every single 1440p had flaws, it either had 0 reviews (these things aren't very popular already) or it had 6 bit panels or it had very high g2g response times at all refresh rates.

>>103244301
you should use 120cd/m for static SDR anyway

>>103243090
nah, all good things start at $600 including VA and IPS

>>103244323
>these things aren't very popular already
what are you taking about? 1440p is 12 years on the market and the most popular resolution right now.

>>103244074
Total opposite for me. I waste keyboards like toilet paper but my g403 still is in mint condition.

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Does it make sense to reuse a Gen 3 NVME with DRAM cache as main drive over a newer Gen 4 DRAM-less?

Current NVME is a 970 EVO Plus, I know it's "slow" for today's standards but I wonder if it might still provide better latency and general performance for Windows and softwares.

>>103244385
I have this thing, when something intense happens I mash mouse buttons like crazy like it would help. But helps with immersion.

>>103244387
man, I run windows on a 12yo 840 EVO and games on NVMe
windows runs well that way, you are overthinking it

>>103244365
~20% on steam charts for years and it's actually going down

>>103244413
steam chart data is skewed so bad by chinese cafes, I don't know why anyone takes it seriously.

Can anime girls build a PC?

>>103240738
I was thinking of building when RDNA 4 comes out but now this thing is planned for 2026?

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>>103244305
Does a second monitor seriously impact 1% lows?
This is very important to me.

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>>103244427
no

>>103244464
It's just fascinating how they haven't came up with the idea yet. It could be a CGDCT while roasting every brand.

>>103244401
It probably doesn't matter but I'm doing a new build so might as well set things up and install Windows on the optimal drive.

>>103244452
Of course. Everything your computer does effects 1%s. Fan control software, all those services for rgb you run, programs that poll for updoots, everything.

>>103244305
Please post benchmarks of this having any relevant, not within margin of error, impact on performance.
If you were to overload your GPU with multiple 4k monitors trying to run DSC then maybe I guess (though it'd prolly just drop out video), but I highly doubt it has any impact whatsoever otherwise.

Also would need to be tested with DXGI flip models and MPO to confirm Windows isn't doing something fucky with DWM in dual monitor setups.

>>103244491
You ought to check reviews for both drives. In theory on-board DRAM should have lower latency but the 970 is old now so a modern HMB drive might well beat it by dint of incremental optimizations. In any case I'd expect the difference to be super marginal and not worth worrying about.
Indeed, in your position I'd allocate them by capacity - use the smaller drive, presumably the 970, for Windows and the larger one as a game drive. Makes reinstalling easier since games are generally tedious to reinstall. That is assuming the 970 still has a good chunk of life left in it - if the NAND is worn you should use it as the game drive since it won't be written as hard in that role.

>>103244503
>Fan control software, all those services for rgb you run, programs that poll for updoots
I'm on loonix and I use none of those
So everything effects 1% lows, but just how significant is a second monitor?

>>103244482
But we already have Serial Experiments Lain.

>>103242425
>>103241197
>is the PSU atx 3.1? For this price I'd personally go for corsair or superflower.
It's 3.0 and one of the best price/performance PSUs I can find. Another A-tier option is Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 750W Gold that costs a few dollars less, but I would like to go with 850W to have some room for possible future updates.
>Why is the mobo so expensive?
European prices + shithole tax.
>The monitor is probably very good, I got viewsonic 27" 1440p 240hz for around the same price
Well, no, actually the monitor is 1440p 180Hz.
>How much more is wd black sn850x?
$130 in where I live.

I'm going to order small and lightweight parts from this list from other places, just wanted to know if I fucked up anything. Thanks, guys.

>>103244550
>'98
eh...

>>103244601
Cool, again, nice picks.

>>103244427
Not if they are retarded. Take Aqua.

i hate IPS glowies

>smart tvs dont support ddc
>nvidia gpus and amd gpus dont support hdmi-cec
fuck tvs

>>103244464
>SFF
what a dumb bitch

>>103244635
I'll stay on IPS until 4k OLEDs become more poorfag affordable
more pixels = more good

>>103244641
>smart tvs
worst piece of technology ever invented

>>103240754
In my country things have gone so bad I only use 3rd party delivery (product is delivered to the local gas station or some close by shop I pick from a list and I have to drive there). There is no convenient solution in a low trust society.

>>103240754
There's one of the rare perks of being a logistics wagie. I order all the expensive stuff to my company address and have one of my kawaii inhouse mail couriers bring it to my wage cage.

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>>103240723
APOLOGIZE

>>103240723
Should I get TeamGroup or TimTech for my RAM?

>>103244647
good itx boards support 3-4 m.2. drives and you can put a 4090 into some itx cases
atx is dead

>>103244727
*Timetec

>>103244718
Intel aren't beating the bulldozer allegations

>>103244731
>thinking this in the era of 450-600W graphics cards
lmao go airfry your components, be my guest gigabrain

>>103244754
GPUs are separated from the other components in most mini ITX cases, take a look at the newer Fractal cases.

>>103244718
We're so back intelbros

>>103244727
Doesn't really matter. Get the cheaper one. If they're the same price, Team is better known so maybe more likely to honour warranty. Maybe.
If it's DDR5 you're presumably buying a guaranteed Hynix A/M bin (i.e. ≥6GT/s @ ≤10ns 1st word). PCBs are standardized and you're not pushing crazy voltage so the heatspreader just needs to "exist".
If it's DDR4 then you're presumably buying mystery meat 3200C16 stuff.
The exception is if you want to manually OC it. In that case look for a teardown to make sure the heatspreader is properly attached. Again with price equality I'd favour Team.

>>103241865
You can buy a 2080 Ti for $200. Why would it be over lmao. Great value deals all along for the low budget gamer.

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>>103244868
>>103241865
Forgot Pic

>>103244833
Thanks anon, they are th same price so I'll just go with TeamGroup.

I am planning on buying the MSI PRO H610M-G DDR4.
The MSI site says it has addressable RGB lights but none of the vendors I am looking to buy it from say it has any sort of RGB connectivity. As far as I can see there aren't multiple versions of this specific DDR4 board, but who am I to trust here?
I was going to trust MSI since there is no version of it I can see with no ARGB but I find it weird how everyone I am looking at seems to exclude them.

>>103244904
Are they the same spec? Should have mentioned that less obliquely.

>>103244911
The first pic on the product page has an RGB header clearly visible (bottom left). I will say that you shouldn't really be spending money on RGB if you can't afford a B-series board but it's there if you want it.

>>103244939
The other board I am looking at is basically at the same price but just with no argb and less connectivity. I think it has slightly better VRMs but I am using a 12100f so it doesn't matter.
And I already have argb because my case included it, otherwise I wouldn't go out of my way for it. But since it's there, I may as well.

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-9000-udna-gpus-reportedly-enter-mass-production-in-q2-2026-udna-also-for-playstation-6

>POODNA was such a bad architectural flop that AYYMDEAD is going back to POOCN

WHAT WENT WRONG, AYYMDEADPOORFAGS?

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>>103245007
nothing, they're remerging CDNA and RDNA and adding Scalar ALUs which neither RDNA and CDNA have but GCN did.

>>103244868
2080tis are infamous for failing vram

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>>103244939
Can you point the ARGB headed in this pic so I can at least have be semi sure the I one I am looking at the vendor is correct

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Why are my temps getting so high under maximum load? From left to right: current, min, max, avg. Max is from when CPU was at 100% unpacking a large file.

>>103245093
p.s.
I have PBO enhanced set to level 3 in MSI bios.

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Thoughts on the 4060Ti 16GB?

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My computer rarely restarts itself while idle with nothing in the event logs. I tried multiple memory kits and power supplies, could it be the CPU?

>>103245117
probably the motherboard

>>103244528
more than 0, the threshold for significant.

>>103245074
Top right, 4 pin connector with the third one "missing".
>>103245093
What cooler? Also PBO is a meme, disable it.
>>103245113
Overpriced, not worth buying unless you want to make coomer AI shit on a budget.
>>103245131
Fuck, that's the one thing I got without a warranty.

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I'm really wondering whether I should shell out 150€ for the X870E Nova instead of the cheaper X870 (Pro RS, SL or Tomahawk).

>more NVME slots with better lane management
Doubt I'll ever use more than 3x NVMEs, and I could just plug additional ones into a USB3-4 enclosure later if needed.
>better VRMs
Future proofing for Zen 6 maybe? I have no plans on using a dual CCD chip but in a few years from now it could mean a possible upgrade to some 11950x3D for platform longetivity.
Not sure how much VRMs matter so it might be same-ish for all mobos.
>clear CMOS button
Absolute godsend, but I usually just plug the reset button from my case to the CMOS jumper or repurpose Sanwas to it.
>more USB3
Good, also makes me steer at least towards the Steel Legend or Nova.
Pro RS doesn't have the "Asrock Lightning Gaming" ports, which sound gimmicky but could prove useful for 8000hz mice/keyboards if I understand correctly. I assume it reserves 2 individual XHCI controllers (hopefully from CPU and not chipset) for 2 dedicated ports?
>WiFi, ethernet
Internet maxes out at 2.5Gbps in my country currently, in the future it would likely go straight to 10Gbps in which case I'd get a dedicated card with SFP.

Kind of a blogpost but I'm curious to hear some more opinions, especially if I'm missing something.

>>103245153
Cool thanks, I guess I will just order and see what comes of it

>>103245093
>>103245104
pbo means it will boost the voltages until your CPU hits 90C and stay there like how GPUs do it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRaJXZMOMPU

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>>103245113
>128-bit

>>103245153
>Overpriced, not worth buying unless you want to make coomer AI shit on a budget.
I also want to run LLMs. Sounds like it's a decent option.

>>103245093
>>103245104
You don't need pbo on 7800x3d, especially since all it does is shoving more voltage to try get higher clocks, but due to cache being placed on the die it heats up too fast and it cannot dissipate the heat so it has to downclock soon after.
Instead of pbo, use curve optimizer and put a negative all core value of 20 or higher to have better sustained clocks.

>>103245117
more like SSD, it could be a BSOD, you just don't see it.

Does anyone have a recommendation for the G600 mouse? Mouse is starting to die out now and I found out that Logitech doesn't sell the mouse anymore.

>>103245172
Don't care, it's still 300GB/s of bandwidth.

>>103244718
>overclock it
>it dies after 6 months

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>>103245074

>>103245153
>What cooler? Also PBO is a meme, disable it.
Artic LF III
>>103245175
Oh fug, I thought they were the same thing.

I'm like in constant
>"I'm gonna buy an OLED"
>"I'm not gonna buy an OLED"
for the past few days.

>>103245222
consoooooooom

>>103245179
>133g mouse
damn thats a heavy boi, mine's only 58g

>>103245226
black friday menace

>>103245222
What's your current monitor?

>>103245228
>58g
heavy...
I thought it was a meme but I got the ATK F1 Ultimate and the 35g are really noticable from 50g+

>>103245239
asus VG27A IPS 165hz 1440p from more than 3 years back.

>>103245228
The weight doesn't matter if you're playing mmos and single player games. Also, the G Shift is really useful.

>>103245240
I'm currently using logitech superlight 2, upgraded from a very heavy mouse and the difference is really amazing

I have a really high outlet voltage at home (up to 250V when it's supposed to be 220V), should I get a UPS or something or can modern PSU deal with it fine?

>>103245272
Just buy a Mac Mini, see >>103245266

>>103245272
should be fine, but call an electrician because that's higher than +10%

>>103245277
Lol, lmao even
>>103245297
It's been this way for decades, I live right next to a substation and was told it's bad but expected.

>>103245253
You're still good to go.
If it's over five years or until the screen starts having dead pixels, try to repair it/get it repaired. Otherwise, go for an OLED.

>>103245175
I put PBO on advanced and set the curve optimizer to -20. Will run some tests

>>103245253
EH. Don't you have anything better to spend your money on? I have an OLED, but I switched from a 34" 2560x1080(!) 144hz monitor, and it was a fuckhuge improvement, but your current monitor isn't that bad. I'm not saying you shouldn't go for it, but buying an OLED is pretty much a luxury thing.

>>103245308
>I live right next to a substation
ah yeah that'll do it. A UPS would certainly be the best thing to put out precisely 220V from 250V.
otherwise you would have to find a 10:11 transformer or something.

>>103240723
How big is the difference between CL30 and CL36 DDR5-6000 RAM?

>>103245175
i could only get my X670E + 7800X3D + 64GB CL30 6000 stable at -10 or -15 i cant remember which

Is it worth getting a 1440p monitor if I mainly watch yt and browse? I got a new pc this summer but had to use some trash decade old 27'' 1080p monitor and it looks and feels terrible for my eyes. Initially I wanted to go back to a 24'' 1080p one (which I used in the past and was fine) but I do kinda like the larger screen size, I just dont know if its really worth if i dont play that much videogames.

>>103245219
My 7800X3D barely breaks 80-82c on cinebench and I cool it with a Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE.

you probably have poor contact/didnt use enough paste/both. remount the cooler

>>103245272
Most good PSUs are rated for 100-240V so 250 should be within the safety margin but you really don't want to eat those margins as a matter of course. You could try finding some sort of "ruggedized" model with >250V input capability but frankly that sounds more expensive than a UPS. With that said do make sure the UPS can actually reduce the output voltage - overvoltage is not what they're "normally" built to prevent. Also, like the other anon said, you maybe want to get this fixed at the utility level. Should end up saving money in the long run provided a simple solution is available - if it's been decades since the last visit something might have come on to the market since.

Holy shit, turning off PBO and using curve optimizer dropped my max temp to 79 and under 100% load it's at 70 max. Way cooler. My coreclock is also reaching 4.99 Ghz, before it was topping out at 4.8.

>>103245353
Yes, the difference is huge between 1440p and 1080p, but you might wanna consider 4k at this point. If you don't game you can easily run 4k on desktop, but you also have to set some scaling, as on 100% everything is very small.

>>103245370
make sure it's stable. I had a -30 working for 5 mins before it crashed, -25 crashed too, and so did -20 but it took longer

>>103245370
You can also set a power limit, so the temps may go down even lower.

>>103245370
That's great but make sure to run a stress test with variable loads (I like OCCT) for a few hours, undervolting tends to cause crashes particularly when switching to a low power state.

>>103245385
What did you run to test it

>>103245353
In that case I'd be thinking 4k. 1440p has benefits for browsing - more real estate - but it's a compromise resolution that lets you get good gaming FPS without spending $3k on the PC.
Since you're not gaming you could easily drive 4k on an IGP and get both more real estate and integer 1080p scaling. Do bear in mind that you may need to move some stuff around to fit a properly sized 4k panel - the 27-32" ones have a pixel density (generally) too high for native scaling.

>>103245370
Why do people like you mess with settings that you don't understand or know what do? There are so many resources online that explain what those settings do, but you go ahead and do things your way and then complain that your shit might be defective.

>>103245408
at least he fixed it, some people insist shit is broken like with AMD gpus

Do you need an AIO for the 9800x3d?

>>103245420
no

>>103245416
Yeah, its why they gimped adrenalin/wattman, and now if you want to push your gpu to the max you need evc. I fucking hate retards like these.

>>103244081
No it was very odd it just made all ocs on ram CPU GPU very unstable and not stable at stock didn't shut off no smoke nothing was apparently from 2008 so something probably went bad was barely used when I got it lol
Now GPU OCS like a champ 79xtx pulse waiting on 9800x3d

>>103245408
I knew PBO was an in-built AMD overclock that worked by increasing power.

>>103245007
>>103245036
I hated rdna lol it's only good in VR raster which is my niche so thankfully it works well

>>103245395
cinebench and various prime95 tests

>>103245007
i like amd. i like their cpus. my first ever custom build had nvidia gpu and amd cpu

Whats the difference between QHD and WQHD? Im currently looking at a 27 inch monitor and in the title it says its WQHD while on the pictures along other information like IPS, hz etc iz says QHD. Some googling says WQHD is for a wider screen but from what Im seeing its just a standart 27 inch screen im looking at so not extra wider or anything.

>>103245385
>>103245389
If his pc didn't crash with level 3 pbo it won't crash with -20 offset.

>>103245491
2560x1440p is both QHD and WQHD, don't pay attention to this.
we used to differentiate widescreen monitors (16/9) from normal monitors (16/10) back then and 16/9 1440p monitors were rare

If only AMD and Nvidia joined forces we would have the world's best APU.

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>>103245528
We already have him

>>103244210
6-7 years is the normal Playstation product cycle, it will either be November 2026 or 2027

>>103245420
Are you oc?

>AiO
zoom zoom

Since the 9800x3d is supposedly an oc beast, does it make sense buying a high end x870 board with really good VRMs?
I have never overclocked before so I don't know how much they matter.

>>103245619
>does it make sense buying a high end x870 board
They're mostly for I/O, if you're just looking for OC performance all X870 boards are more than adequate for the 9800x3D. Supposedly some handle 8000mt RAM better but it's still mostly luck-based.
If you can afford something like the X870E Nova then go for it, but the X870 Pro RS is perfectly fine too. Don't get a B650 unless there's a huge price gap, Steel Legend is fine for a 9800x3D too though.

>>103245528
An apu that can rival a gpu? Lets say somthing of a level 4060.
Thats bad for the business.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiNl28rowM0

The only productivity monitor you need...

>>103245649
you mean like Strix Halo?

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>>103245640
>check local x870 pro rs price
>280 euros
>check x870 steel legend
>260
Clown pricing.
There's no reason not to go for the steel legend, right?

>>103245715
yes its all around a better board

>>103245725
As far as ram goes, I heard that the equivalent of Samsung's B-die for DDR5 are these hynix m-die, do you happen to know what kit can guarantee that?

>>103245748
>>103245748
>>103245748

>>103245744
any 2x16gb and 2x32gb kit with 6000cl30-36-36 timings are 16gbit A-die that's currently the best as it has the tightest timings
2x24gb and 2x48gb kits that are 6000cl30 are 24gbit M-die which clock higher (useless on ryzen) and have slightly looser timings

>>103245763
Oh alright, that's great then I'll just grab some 6000mhz 30-36-36 sticks then. Thanks.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/T7vD8Q

Since Black friday is about to be on the doorstep, I was wondering what you guys think I should upgrade from here.
I got like 600 Euros and live in germany.
Thinking CPU/Cpu fan+ Mobo+ Ram most likely

>>103245619
IMHO I think anything over a x670e is massive overkill

>>103245770
the technical best is 6000 cl28-36-36 but those are only available in 2x16gb capacities and are really expensive

>>103245338
If you're on an x3d processor it's negligible I think

>>103245763
who makes A-die 2x32 600030-40-40?

>>103244647
Apparently that's what nihon people like.

>>103242741
Weird, I wouldn't think you'd even be able to clip the ram in if it wasn't seated properly.