>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use cases.State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC>CPUGaming: 12400, 7600, 9800X3D; for existing AM4 users: 5700X3DWorkstation: 265K, 9900X, 9950X>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge/Arctic Liquid Freezer III, Hyte THICC Q60Double towers: ID-Cooling FROZN A620 PRO SE, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67>MOTHERBOARDASRock B650M-HDV/M2, B650 LiveMixer/Steel Legend, cheap X870, X870E Nova>RAMDDR4: 2x16GB 3200CL16. Budget, 2x8GBDDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30Workstation/high end: consider 2x48GB>SSD (OS drive)Budget: SN580Mid range: NM790Premium: Samsung 990 Pro (Windows only), SN850XFlagship: Sabrent Rocket 5>GPU1080p: RTX 4070 Super, RX 7700 XT1440p: RTX 4070 Ti Super, RX 7900 GRE2160p: RTX 4090, RTX 4080 Super, RX 7900 XTXWorkstation: RTX 4000 Series>CASE (from $ to $$$)mATX: Montech Air 100, Lian Li A3, Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li O11 Air MiniATX: Phanteks XT PRO(ULTRA), Montech AIR 903 Base/MAX, Antec C5, Lian Li Lancool 216/IIIAVOID: 'Silent' cases, fanless cases>PSUBudget: Gold rated 500-600W PSUMid range: ATX 3.0 compliant fully modular gold rated PSU @ 75% max loadHigh end: Seasonic PRIME TXAVOID: GAMEMAXPSU buying guide:https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/ (updated Q3 2024)>MONITOR1080p: KOORUI 24E3, MSI G2412F, MSI MAG 256F, MSI G244PF E21440p: ASRock PG27QFT2A, Dell G2724D4K: Acer Nitro XV275K, Gigabyte M32U, Dell Alienware AW3225QF>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansHigh end: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)Previous: >>103265665
there's a shortage every year.
>RTX 50 Super renditions rumored
>>103270932>get a 5090 at launch and set for the generation>get a 5080 but then get cucked by a 5080 super later onthose damn jews
>>103270904Thanks for answering. So basically 6000 cl30 16x2 kit should be good enough for 9800X3D but won't break any records, correct?
42" LG c4 144hz vs the slew of 32" qdoled 240hz monitorsstill no definitive answer what one should pickTime running outFomo edition
Got rog azoth, was 150€ on bf saleWhile typing is nice, the wireless connection is good and the oled screen can show the time it weighs so fucking much it hurts my legs
8k monitor, my wallet is ready.where is it?
>>103270907oyest of veys
>>103270942definitely, no need to overthink ram. it doesn't make much practical difference. you can always decide to learn more about ram and get a enthusiast kit then. or you get lucky and your 6000 kit already has the best ics
>>103270932They'll finally deliver 48gb of vram with the 5090 super
>>103270967https://www.cined.com/asus-proart-display-pa32kcx-32-inch-8k-hdr-mini-led-monitor-first-look/all yours for the low low price of $8,000 usd
>>103270982I'm still on ddr3 800 bro I think it'll be happy with 6k lmao
>>103270996sounds good then^^
Bros, I think I have to settle with only the RTX 5070 Ti..
>>103270996Same here. Really looking forward to building a new machine and seeing the difference in performance.
>>103271023will be dogshit compared to the 5070 Ti Super but be my guest
>>103271023The cards are all gonna sell out before you can update the site anyway. Maybe get an AMD card instead.
>>103271026I remember switching from phenom 2 to 4790k. Should be something similar.
>>103271052I'll be camping Micro Center on release day
>>103270948>no definitive answerWhat are you looking to get from a monitor? What kind of room are you living in, bright or dark? Can you control the lighting in your room?Do you prefer 42" or 32"?Do you mind having to use a remote for your monitor?Are there any games you plan on running at high refresh rates?Is one of the display significantly cheaper?What are the warranties like in your country, do the manufacturers truly honor them past 2 years?How much true HDR with actual wide gamut and high brightness peaks are you going to consume?Answer these questions for yourself anon, don't let others decide for you. QD-OLED > WOLED though.
My idle temperature for a 9800x3d with a 360mm aio is 38 degrees. Is this normal? Or did I fuck up? It gets up to 65 or so when playing games. Most previous cpus idled closer to 30, so I was worried.
>>103271138water is about room temperature on idle. hotter room equals hotter idle.
>>103270932weren't they rumored since the leaks with revisions a year later?
>>103271138ryzen does idle hotter than intelaio mounting is pretty foolproof so redoing probably won't get you anything
Do I get a X870 or X870E? I'm torn between getting a Steel Legend/Tomahawk or waiting for Nova restock but im not sure if the benefits are worth the price difference
>>103271065I'm jumping from a 4770K to a 9800X3D. Should be a nice experience.
>>103270907I want to build a PC that can outperform PS5 Pro. What GPU and CPU parts would I be looking at?
>>1032711855700x3d3060tibut really you want better than that
>>103271165Well, I applied the thermal paste myself, so maybe I did that incorrectly. I might have applied slightly too much.
>>103271185a 3070/4060 ti and 7600x3d
>>103271185CPU: literally anything made in the last four years. Even entry-level zen 4 and raptor lake CPUs stomp on the PS5 Pro's CPUGPU: RTX 4070
>>103270907>nvidia warns gamers of an incoming gpu shortageThey are just trying to get rid of old stock before they release the 5000 series gpus
>>103271184>4770KHow fucking old is your rig dude
>>103271081>What are you looking to get from a monitor?consoom content/web browse and vidya with a 5090>What kind of room are you living in, bright or dark? Can you control the lighting in your room?I mean dimmer than a show room and the glossy oleds looked fine in there so no matte slop>Do you prefer 42" or 32"?not sure could go with either>Do you mind having to use a remote for your monitor?if anything this is an upside not having to reach forward and under to config settings for a monitor, other than turning on a tv manually>Are there any games you plan on running at high refresh rates?not that much probably but maybe, or actually some, but then again I would want 480hz for that too>Is one of the display significantly cheaper?could have gotten aw32 for 780€lg c4 42 is 720€samsung g8 is 870€msi 32qdoled is 1.1k€gigabyte qdoled is 1040€asus 1.26k€ (will consider if a bf flash deal arrives again)cons of buying monitor>no speakers>less size>less ports in many cases>allegedly less bright overall and in hdr than tvcons of buying tv>no qdoled memes>less hz>too much size?>do the manufacturers truly honor them past 2 years?depends on them no?>How much true HDR with actual wide gamut and high brightness peaks are you going to consume?if they gaymes have it I will consoom it, not sure>don't let others decide for you. QD-OLED > WOLED though.I hear differentiating opinions all over can't tell, but specifically about monitors they are the only 4k glossy ones right now too and seem better regardless
>>103271208what would be better while being reasonably priced?
>>1032712134060 ti? Isn't that like 8gb of vram while PS5 has 16gb vram, no?
>>103271306intel chips last, unlike amd ryzen
>>103271317>reasonably pricedgotta be honest, price/performance is worse than it ever has been on PC
>>103271306oc'd 4770k does everything a modern 4 core does
>>103271330IIRC PS5/PS5 Pro has 16gb of vram but that's shared so its more like ~8-10
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MKzTHWHave everything but the GPU in this list already. I just got the PSU like 2 years ago, so I'd rather not buy a new one and am trying to find a GPU to upgrade my 5700XT. Going off the estimated wattage on the pcpartpicker, is using 520 watts on a 750W PSU alright for longer term usage? I figure a 7900XT putting me at close to 600 would best require a new 850+ PSU even tho that's cheaper for similar performing GPU.
>>103271330consoles have unified system memory
>>103271306intel chips are never obsolete
>>103271306Old. My brother bought it in 2013 I think and then passed it on to me after he got a new one, hoping to sway me away from being a consolefag. It had a 780 in it when I got it and probably still would if he hadn't also given me his 1070 Ti when he upgraded to a 2080.
>>103271306I was using a 3570k until 4 years ago.
Everything I hear about battlemage has me psyched. Nvidia might have actually been scared into releasing their 5070 and 5060 earlier due to it.
>>103271481Think this is funny, do you. Watch what happens in a few hours.
>>103271481Intel GPUs would be god tier if their drivers weren't shit tier
>>103271336fuck. I remember getting my PC back in 2015 for 1300 CAD and I could play 1440p games at 70 FPS on ultra settings. Now, it would cost me 2 grand to do the very same with modern games. It's crazy how the prices have stayed up .I might have to just stick till PS5 for now. Any idea when prices might get better ? this black friday is looking pretty dull so far
>>103271357>>103271375ah so it's not the same at 16gb vram on a 7800xt
>>103271510black friday gets worse every year. really, best thing to do is wait for around spring where they try to get rid of old stock summer is a good time too.
>>103271510Everything points towards things becoming substantially more expensive than they are already. So we need a full blown miracle.
Processors can be had for cheap. The 57000x3d exists, so you can't complain about being fleeced there. It's purely at the GPUs that people are getting shafted.
1080p is unironically all you need.Higher resolutions aren't worth it.>t. fell for the 4k meme
>>103271592Maybe if you like 24" monitors. Moving to a 27" 1440p monitor was one of the best purchases I ever made.
>>103271592>>t. fell for the 4k memedoubt (x)
>Thermalright >cheap as shitis this a meme? been out of the cooler/aio market for a bit was thinking about getting something new to replace my old aio
>>103271537do you know this is happening?
>>103271681Nothing is ever certain but experts are throwing around numbers like 30% price hikes on monitors, phones, and any other consumer electronics products manufactured in China once Trump's proposed tariffs come into effect.
>>103271537actually computers are cheaper now than they ever have been. a mid pc in the late 90's was over $2000. if prices go up then it's just a correction.
>>103271611>Maybe if you like 24" monitorsYes. Diminishing returns hit hard and fast, in retrospect I've wasted a fair bit of money on things I don't need.>>103271613Trying to optimize every modern game to get a decent framerate vs maxing out all settings and getting a billion fps- there's no wrong answer, but one costs significantly more than the other.
>>103271306I'm still using a 4670k. was gonna get arrow lake until i saw the reviews
Is water cooling a meme or is it legit? Can fan cooling be nearly as quiet with quality fans?
>>103271704>mention 10% tariff>experts/business owners start screaming about 30-50% price increases due to said potential tariffSeems a bit peculiar.
>>103271751Yeah it's measurably better than air cooling at the top end of each but you need a big heat load to tease out the difference. If you're just gaming with your 7600/9800X3D then either option can be almost inaudible (and certainly quieter than your card).
>>103271681>>103271704even without tariffs, they printed so much money during covid and asset prices have gotten so high that PC parts are cheaper now than they have ever been, provided you do have those assets. S&P500 is worth twice as much as it was in 2020. bitcoin is over 10x its 2020 value. many people can't afford a $500 CPU but a few people could easily afford a $2k CPU. i suspect they might adopt a "make fewer, charge more" strategy for maximum profit
>>103271730there is literally no benefit to running a 1080p panel other than hzmaxxing, native is dead, ppi is high enough, lowres is a hypercopeand that's obsolete too now with 1440p480hzcasualfags should go straight to 4k144-240hzonly poverty remains as a cope for anything else
>>103271784Not if you're aware that dependence on global supply chains will cascade the effect.
>>103271676some of the best coolers around at a price point none can beat
>>103271809>casualfags should go straight to 4k144-240hzYeah, and how much is that going to cost?It's a huge waste of money.
>>103271751Watercooling has an inherent noise/performance advantage because water has a far higher heat capacity and therefore a much easier time dispersing heat than air does.
>>103271815The implication is tariffs on everything which is absurd. But I guess the sky is falling.
>>103271676Yeah they're total chinkshit but the performance is there and they're so cheap that, when the $3 fans inevitably die, you could buy two whole coolers before you spent as much as a Noctua.
>>103271856the screens themselves are cheap, again the requirements is not to run the AAA games at 240hz 4k native
I just bought a 4070tiSuper. Do I buy a 5700x3D to replace my 5900x if I want to stay on am4 but don't really care about productivity?
>>103271929Seeing as you already bought the card just play some games and find out. If you're mostly going high graphics high res you might not even need a CPU upgrade.
>>103271751If you do some price vs cooling than air wins, a 35 dollar cooler like Phantom Spirit will probably be as good as 80-100 dollar AIO. Its when you get past that and compare it to even more expensive water-cooled setups with reservoirs that water cooler is significantly better but so much overkill its a "why bother" tier.
>>103270907Is that 9800X3D expected to be back in stock any time soon?
>>103272027no
>>103272027Newegg has it in bundles off and on (like right now) when its not in stock by itself, they also drop it super late at night in America like 12-3 in the morning several times a week.Amazon is fucked and ships in JanuaryB&H got wiped by bots and I'm pretty sure hasnt restocked since I havent gotten an alert in a week or moreSeveral places like BestBuy delisted itMaybe wait for December?
THESE LEAKS COOKING UPPPPPPPPPPP
Since the 7800X3D and the 9800X3D are too expensive or not available, would it be alright if I got the 9700X for mainly gaming and general workstation use? I could probably spring for the 7600X but I'm not planning on upgrading again for another several years.
>>103272027By end of December or mid January at worst. Restocks are plentiful
>>103271411your brother is based
I don't suppose there's anything at all interesting this nigger friday
>>1032720915090 for $1750? (please Jensen my asshole cant take the abuse)
>>103272089Thanks for the in depth explanation. I'm thinking of building a new PC and it wouldn't be put together until the RTX 5 series comes out, so I have time to wait. It just feels like there's a lot more options but also warnings and disagreements right now than there was in 2020.
>>103272109You are just beginning to see what your asshole can achieve
>>103271891Shit will get wild. Recent years will look tame and pleasant by comparison.
>>103272091so is that the 5070 superwonder if my 750w psu can handle that
>>103272109What would ever possess you to expect $1750
>>103272091600w? splendid. I will take two
>>103272146I am a hopeless optimist
>>103271992Thanks for the advice. I was thinking of just doing the same thing originally but the temptation to get a 5700x3D from aliexpress for $140 usd is strong.
>>103272109>5090 for $1750?That would be good news. It'll be $2.5k.
>>1032720913 months old leaks, grandpa
>>103272091I am hoping a 1000W good PSU goes on sales for <100 so I can have it all ready for the 5090.
>>103272106not if you are poor, plenty oled tvs and monitorscope and rope
>Black Friday stuff>Think of building a new computer>Remember I barely play AAA graphic intense game anymore as an adult and that GTA6 won't come to PC immediately anyway
>>103272155I suppose if you have 4070TiS money then an Ali special 5700X3D is basically pocket change. I'd still say to bench it yourself but mostly out of principle.
>>103272170>pc building>TVI guess you could make a point about monitors but yeah I meant internals. Happy with my screen for nowAlso I checked the neo G9 out of curiosity on camelcamel and it's almost the same price here as it was like a month ago before they jacked it up to make it look like a deal lmao. I see the old wisdom of just buying whenever you need it is still the way to go for goysumer products
>cope and rAAAAAACCCCCCCCKKKKK
>>103271842>around the price pointI literally dont give a fuck about price point.ignoring pircepoint are they a meme still?
>>103271138Normal, don't bother redoing it.
>>103272218yeah, they're a meme. go buy a $120 noctua max or something. idk.
My gtx 1080 shit the bed, should I try and get another gpu for the old system (i5 7600k and 16 gig ram) or just build a whole new system?
Why not the Samsung G80SD for a 4K OLED monitor over the Alienware in the OP? It costs the same at current sales, the Samsung is flat screen, and Rtings has it as their overall best OLED monitor. https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/best/oled
>>103272192>I have to buy a 4k oled to justify GTA6>I have to buy a 875€ PS5 Pro to justify playing GTA6 at the optimal settings in 2025 or wait until late 2026 or 2027+ on PC>of which PC build will be a 2k€ 5090 to justify playing GTA6 at optimum settings and 4kit's over>>103272209if by neo g9 u are talking about the uw oled one it's 940£ here 40% offa bit moretvs are def cycled out yearly and you buy thenmonitors are now getting steep sales so yeahyou can get some tiny deals on other things too>>103272215already deboonked you fifty threads ago, give it up, Rashjeet
>>103272307I am purely guessing because samsung has no/1 year warranty on the burn in or just monitor, I forget, it's shitand dell has 3 year pixel warranty burn inaw32 also has been cheaper reguarlyagain, I fucking missed it and the fucking discount code and it sold out
>>103272218people hate on noctua for their overpriced products like people with PSA ARs hate on DD because their stuff is "just as good". it's not.you buy noctua once, that's it. lifetime of support for all the future CPU plus all the part you might lose or ever need
>>103272315That's the 8k*2k miniled one. I see the OLED one for 999 and camelcamelcamel says it was 800 a couple months ago, so yeah, "steep sales" right
>>103270907Got my 7900xtx simple as
>>103272091Dont care sticking with a 79xtx pulse for a while
>>103271856The person you are arguing with has a budget PC and doesn't even own a monitor (despite being an OLED shill), don't waste your time.
>>103272027Lolno its probably another 5800x3d situation where they made fuck all and at best we will get a 9700x3d pop up on ali with scalped mobos so ill have to wait a month to get something not a ripoff
>>103272027Haven't seen it this bad since the 5950X during covid
How does Samsung QD-OLED differ from LG OLED?
>Gigabyte Radeon RX 7700 XT - £338.99For a 1080p setup is this enough of an upgrade from an RX 6600 to warrant the cost?
>>103271592I can't see snipers at the end of the map in TF2 with a 1080p 24" display, I have to be unhealthily close to the monitor. If I had 2160p pixel density on the other hand, this would not be a problem.
>>103272448>7700XTnope7800XT is the floor to make it worth it
>>103270907>nvidia warns of a shortage of GPUs they are the sole hand in creatingWhat a shitty timeline
>there are butt hurt retards who are advertising and defending objectively shitty OLED displays that are extremely susceptible to getting burn-in issuesKek!I'm so glad I'm an IPS master race member!Enjoy your burn-in issues, lads.
>>103270907Nvidia is pretty much admitting that big Blackwell is PITA to make and yields are poor. Another Fermi parallel.
>>103272468>Gigabyte Radeon RX 7800 XT GAMING OC 16GB>£398.99Does that seem worth it for the extra £60?Also I'm guessing I'd probably want to upgrade the i5 12400f. I've had a couple of new games struggle - really mostly Dragon's Dogma 2 and the MHWilds demo, which had to be squished graphics wise to get them to run well enough.
I've pared down my choices to just these two since I don't want to spend more than $200 on a monitor. Is the dell really much better than the omen?>>103272476Reminds me of Apple intentionally under-manufacturing their iphones on release. Really funny stuff.
>>103272192>>103272315I remember a time when GTA was seen as the hot garbage it actually is. GTA 6 is the shittiest reason you could possibly have to spend big on a new PC.
>>103272315>GTA6You have gazillions of already released games you never played that are guaranteed to be better than GTA6 ever hopes to be.And all of them will run much better than GTA6.Fuck go play some retro games even.
>>103272500Yes that'd be much more worth it.>Dragon's Dogma 2 and the MHWildsboth use the garbage fire CPU raping RE Engineunless you are going straight to an i9 or X3D they won't improve much
>>103272487We are just getting the dregs again ill neevr buy another nvididiot gpuLast one was that dogshit 2080ti that was so bad they never made another rtx titan
>>103272374getting a VA in current year, it's over>>103272440no white subpixel like lg woled so stronger colors but you have no polarizer thingy so if light shines on the screen you get raised blacksand all qdoled monitors are usually semi gloss instead of matte, exception being samsung g8for monitors right now it seems to be the better option>>103272512I was just memeing tho.. I have not even played gta5>>103272516probably
>>103272487They could just continue making anything north of a 4060>>103272506Apple does the right thing at least and continues producing and refurbing older phones with discounts.
>>103272527Alright - I might go for that then.>CPUFuck... I mean, I did get some Christmas money, I COULD get an i9 12900K or KF? They both seem compatible with my motherboard (a Gigabyte B660M DS3H AX DDR4).
even esportsfags are abandoning woled matte coatings and 1440p 480hz, literally preferring 4k 240 qdoledit's the minimum standard now
>>103272500it's 20% faster and has more vram so yes
>spend more for things you don't need, goyim!
>>103272562Matte doesn't matter in dark rooms though, just for you people who don't know.
>>103272573there are literally no new games to take advantage of a new card.
>>103272577This my 7900xtx is bottlenecked to shit by my 13600k lolDay 15 of waiting for ali express mobo and ram
>>103272483You've beaten me enough. I'm already returning my OLED. What more do you want from me.
Any chances or rumors of any of the items on my list getting a sale on black friday or cyber monday?https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HjQLWt
>>103272500where are you seeing a 7800 XT for 400?
>>103272412The 5800X3D was well stocked for 2 years.
>>103272612most likely storage and monitor
>>103272612sn580 is a better drive
>>103272614https://www.amazon.co.uk/Gigabyte-Radeon-7800-GAMING-Graphics/dp/B0CGRMJF6CI'm not being dumb here, am I? Is that too high?>>103272605>>103272577There's been more than a handful of new-ish games that I've tried on my PC that have struggled. GRANTED most of those have been either UE5 engine games, or the aforementioned RE Engine games, but I still want to be able to play those without chugging or pushing the graphics down. I'm not even asking for much, just consistent 1080p60.
>>103272562Not a single relevant pro gamer is going to swap to OLED, they wouldn't bother playing with gear that they couldn't use in LAN (which are solely BenQ/Zowie).
>b650 steel legend back in stock on Amazon for 179>prime ship date JANUARY 13Nah fuck this
>>103272639>Is that too high?no that's a good price
>>103272647is this a decent mobo for 1 gpu 2 ssd and 9800x3d?
>>103272593it's matte in the dark too wym damn>>103272641esports not pros>(which are solely BenQ/Zowie).wrong soley dependant on event sponsors but anywaysstarting to regret I got the fucking dell code late and cucked out of a cheap aw32GOD DAMN
>>103272557>I COULD get an i9 12900K or KF?depends on the price, I wouldn't pay more than £300 for one of them now
>>103272647I told you those 9800x3d fags have been struggling to find the mobos
>>103272655It's like the 2nd best b650 board period. Yes. But there is a wait as you can see
>fast as a 4090 when oc>as cheap as a 4070i mog you
>>103272677How does x870 pro rs or x870 steel legend compare to the b650 board? I really don't want to wait almost 2 months when I have every other part
>>103272612i fomod and bought all my shit this week. pretty much everything i had on mine was bottomed out as far as any graphs showed and i dont anticipate desirable gpus or cpus getting much of a discount this year due to incoming tariffs in the us. plus, plenty of people are buying now in anticipation of those tariffs, so i didnt want to risk missing key components if they get sold out. my last build has lasted me 8 years, i cant imagine this one wont do that or longer so id rather spend the $50 more than risk not getting what i want at all.
>>103272651Oh, cool - I might go for it then. Actually that's a fair point - what's the easiest way to find out whether a game is pushing my GPU or CPU harder?>>103272670I can get an i9-12900KF for £246. Does that seem reasonable?Also I'm looking it up and it looks like my mobo might be bottlenecking the CPU if I were to get that?
Just found out about AV1 encoding. I'm not a streamer, but I do stream my games from my desktop to my steam deck pretty frequently. My 5700XT does not have AV1 encoding, so if I were to buy a 7000 series or 40 series card that supports AV1 encoding, would my streams to my steam deck be nicer? Or is that not how this works?
>>103272647mine was meant to be shipped from ali a week ago gl LOLat least its a x670e gaming wifi for 200usd
>>103271929Which card did you buy, anon?I'm also looking to shop for one and was unsure on the model to grab.
>>103272715you dont need specific hardware for itlike phones often dont have dedicated hardware for av1 but any android 12 and up phone can play av1 video
>>103272663>esports not prosWhich is the same thing, you probably meant casual competitive gamers like streamers.>on event sponsorsWhich are solely Zowie/BenQ for all relevant tournaments. No OLED to be found, nor won't be found ever.The inherent render latency induced by playing resolutions higher than 1080p is a huge no for actual high level gameplay, you will never find a 1440p/4k monitor and because most players use stretched resolutions on cramped desks, sizes higher than 24" aren't going to be standard anytime soon.OLED also can't match the brightness and motion clarity of strobed monitors, even at 480hz.All this cope about OLED and yet you still haven't purchased a single one for the past 20 threads, could you simply be poor?
>>103271929get a 5700x3d and be happywish early x3d where oc thats what i went with a am5 98x3d build mix of new cpu ram used mobo for under 1k usd
sup /g/, how is this build for my son? He just plays Fortnite and Roblox. He's been using my shitty old Dell Inspiron laptop. Anything I'm spending too much on? anything it should be better to spend more on? I wanna build a PC with him this Christmas cause his mom and I are divorcing and the upcoming year will bring some big changes.https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2HfTHW
>>103272696*burns down your room and uses $600 worth of electricity*
>>103271929sounds like a waste of money
>>103272744>He just plays Fortnite and Roblox.ipadoh wait this is a divorce bribe giftthen I say build him the computer
>>103272749runs cool and uses 200-400w unlike nvidia shit which will use double that for baaaarely any gains
>swapped out my old CPU cooler for a Phantom Spirit>getting it lined up and actually secured had me drag it around a bit and force it into lining upWould I have really fucked up my thermal paste coverage smudging it around like that
>>103272683is realtek LAN still shit?
Picking a motherboard for the 9800x3D is legitimately harder than finding the damn CPU.
>>103272102He is, I'm lucky to have him as my bro
i boughted a 9800x3d but i forgor to get a cooler. how much should i be spending on one? historically i've thought overzealous cooling has been a bit of a meme and i've just been ok with having my CPU hit higher temps every now and then (i don't care as long as it doesn't throttle it)
will desktop OLED go smaller than 32" for 4K or 27" for 1440p?
>>103272814eventually soon as it becomes cheap enough gotta bring expiry dates to every size
>>103272798Buy something old that had enough time to mature. I got X670E Steel Legend today. Though my choice was forced by NH-D15 compatibility
>>103271611This is a fair take.>>1032715921080p only works at panels which max out 23.8, even 24.5 is too big with a visible degrade in the already small PPI.Both 27 inch 1440p and 23.8 inch 1080p are ideal because they share the same aspect ratio and dance around the 96 ppi number which is the default everywhere without scaling.
>>103272677It's true, b650e taichi for 270 is where I settled. Just need Amazon to deliver the damn chip already.
>>103272456Use DLSDR and you will see it clearer without being glued to the monitor.
>>103272812ive decided to go for the Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE because apparently the 9800x3d isnt hard to cool down anyway
>>103272677I just looked on Amazon and there's like 10 am5 boards on prime in stock..
>>103271918The cheap 1440p screens are worse than the cheap ones recommended in the 1080p section, way worse while also being at almost double in price.
>>1032713064910 reportan
>>103272738Not all eSports games will be potato cs for 1080p forever almost no pros uses strobing I also literally don't care>All this cope about OLED and yet you still haven't purchased a single one for the past 20 threads, could you simply be poor?Poor yes but not poor enough to not consoom it, poor enough to kvetch about what option to choose, poor enough to wait for price drops At this point I feel like there is nothing else to consoom than the 32qdsAt this point I would have already gotten the dell if it didn't sell out already maybe even due to the curve, still not sureMight just wait for flash deals coming up soon, if the Asus doesn't get discounted I'm literally commiting sodukuAt this point I will even settle for the msi but no stores gonna discount it even more Hell maybe even the g8 is the final cope even though the matte, which is better than LGS coating The dell was the cheapest, it would have all been over, I could have finally been at peace, maybe I Will continue to cope until bf is over Simple as
>990 pro and corsair angled 12v2x6 cable came in>installed bothi didn't fuck up yay :)
>>103272730I bought the MSI Shadow OC since it was the cheapest. The MSI Expert is $10 more for a more premium card but apparently, worse thermals
OK soIs there an AMD CPU that I could get, equivalent to an i9 12900K that would deliver similar performance at a low enough price to warrant getting a new motherboard?
>>103272715The idea is that the encoding is done by a separate chip on the card so all the graphical resources and various cores like tensor cores are free to use for everything else.AV1 fixed function encoding on that is good looking but if you were to encode offline on CPU, in software, it would look many times better but again think about the benefits.Depends what do you mean by nicer, unless you have a dedicated beefy PC to encode in real time, AV1 fixed function is the top right now.
>>103272710>4070 Super out of stock at Walmart
>>103272899Thanks friendo.
>>10327283131.5" @ 150% scaling give you 96 ppi
whats the best way to quickly and conveniently humilitate and degrade people asking for gpu purchasing advice months prior to 50xx launc?
>>103272953Any non integer scaling is utter dogshit so it's meaningless.Better just use DLSS because it gives REAL INDIVIDUAL PIXELS so you saturate the full ppi
>>103272883Update on poverty status,Just saw more bf deals here in eu dropping 1440p180hz 27" ipses for 135€I might just buy a potato monitor and bend the knee to the old burn in fag and call it a day for nowit might be over
>>103272707>x870 pro rs or x870 steel legend compare to the b650 boardIt's a bit of a weird situation. https://www.asrock.com/mb/compare.asp?Models=X870E%20Nova%20WiFi,X870%20Steel%20Legend%20WiFi,X870%20Pro%20RS%20WiFi,B650%20Steel%20Legend%20WiFi>X870s have some fuckery with PCIE/NVME disabling but generally faster I/O>X870 has WiFi 7>X870 SL has more high-speed USB than both B650 SL and Pro RS>Pro RS has less high-speed USB ports than B650 SL>all share the same VRM and phase configurations>all of them have low temps>all of them can handle dual-CCD chips just fineX870 Steel Legend and X870E Nova are what I'm looking for currently, not sure yet which one I'll pick.
>>103272889um actually should i be concerned by this? i installed the 990 pro and now my pch temps are extremely high even at idlei didn't touch the pch
>>103272546Larger Ada Lovelace production had ceased. Nvidia allocated their 4nm TSMC lot for Blackwell silicon.
>>103272967I am tired and saw wrong of course we don't have that good prices here it was a bit more
>>103273009Up to 80 is fine.
>>103272939They mentioned somewhere on an investment article that they'd be focusing less on boutique gaming.
I've got a $300 budget, looking for a 1440p monitor for vidya that can do at least 120 fps and ideally handles hdr well. What standouts should I take a look at?
>>103273108>handles hdr wellaoc miniled VA or similar panels are your only option for cheap hdrhttps://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/aoc/q27g3xmnbut since oled monitors are so cheap now you should just up the budget and get one of those for perfect hdr
>>103273108https://www.amazon.com/Xiaomi-Mini-LED-2560x1440-Freesync-Adjustable/dp/B0DBYPQY8F?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&psc=1&smid=AAFR5SCTEEDHYthe streets are saying this is the best monitor in that rangeit's chinkium though so expect the fald backlight to start failing after 3-4 years
>>103272967you are far too concerned about the purchase of an oled monitor to be truly happy with oneget a good IPS 1440p like the G2724D, well calibrated and looks the same in SDR unless you're wanking in the darkgetting into HDR is literally aids by the way, you realize not many games have it with most being fucked and requiring community patches. even the best implementations display mostly bt.709...I'd argue the 4k oled monitors are completely pointless and richfag bait, true endgame are the 1440p 360hz qd-oled or 480hz (if pseudo-competitive autist, otherwise trash)>>103273108>ideally handles hdr wellno such thing but try AOC Q27G3XMN or a similar MiniLED, it's not too bad. if you're fine with ditching HDR (because it's not going to be great), get a G2724D and wait for oleds to get better.
>>103273130>I'd argue the 4k oled monitors are completely pointless and richfag baitI don't say this often, but you are retarded
>>103273128>ipscome on now
>>103273136Beggars can't be choosers retard. That's all you're going to get in that price range. If you go VA you will have brightness flickering with gsync enabled and the usual black smearing shit with awful viewing angles. Each tech has downsides. IPS has the least.
>>103273133you'd understand if you weren't a poorfag and actually tested things for yourself
i think PC components are too cheap really. i spent more on a shitty black suit for a funeral than i did for what is supposed to be an incredibly complex and difficult-to-manufacture top of the line CPU
>>103273147you dont want native ips contrast ratio with miniledyou get asstastic blooming
>7900XTX for $723in what world would i ever be able to justify a 4080 Super now $1000+ starting and maybe $1100+ for the non-shitty AIBs
>seller sends the wrong case and files a return request mid-shipment>correct case finally gets here>its brokenfuck you ups
>>103273151I have the infinity gauntlet of monitors you stupid tard. I have tested everything with my own eyes. >>103273164A little blooming is 100% better than the shit you have to deal with on a va monitor
if my phone never gets burn-in despite static symbols on the screen like battery, why are people scared with OLED monitors? or are PC monitors just shitty compared to phone screens which are 5+ years ahead
>>103271306i7 3770 over here the fact that my motherboard is a dh61ww is the most limiting factor, ddr3 its funtional but two ram sticks hurt, i also recently replace the office Quadro k600 with a RX 580 2048sp 8gb from aliexpress, eigth times video game performance for around 70$, planning to jump over amd5 waiting for the b650m-HDV/M.2 to apear again in my country
What peripheral company has the least objectionable drivers? I wanted a new mouse with my new pc but in my experience the software to configure buttons/dpi/etc all sucks.
>>103273182You have this foolish idea that phones don't get burn in. They do. And at alarmingly high rates. A monitor is only going to burn in faster because you view static content on it much more often.
>>103273179modern va have plenty good pixel response times that you dont think about it and they play stuff like cs2 fine
>>103273201The only good VA tech is fast HVA and only China is bothering to make monitors like that. They are also just as expensive as OLED monitors so at that point you might as well go OLED. Also good luck getting one of those next year when tariffs start hitting.
>>103273179>not a single high refresh rate monitor>only poorfag displays including the poorfag-approved curved dellsorry for offending you bro, but you still have shit to try
>>103273182It's just autists seething that progress has taken a different turn.It's like seething that BT audio is everywhere despite it creating the best market there ever was for wired audio.Just get your LCD and sit back when everyone screens burn in.
is the Crucial T500 okay? I want a 2TB Gen 4 drive with a dram cache for around 100 bongs and things keep coming in and out of stock
>>103273182>phone never gets burn-inAll my OLED phones got burn-in after a few years of use.
>>103273244alternative i'm looking at are 990 Pro and SN850X which are going just above 100 (between 100 and
>>103273257just get one of those instead
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fMyCyWany last thoughts before I pull the trigger?
i bought a va monitor once and the black smearing was so bad that i almost threw up
>>103273257130, wtf happened there
>>103273182You don't use your phone anywhere near as much as you use your monitor first of all.Phones are almost never left displaying static content, you're only turning it on when you plan on using it, so the content displayed is always mostly dynamic.Compared to monitors, the brightness dimming is far more aggressive on a phone and burn-in progresses much slower at low brightness. You only see peak brightness of your phone's display under the sun.And obviously phones *do* burn-in, but not always in a way that's obvious during casual use and most people replace them before they even realize it.
>>103273269VA has gone to shit. They used to be decent but you can guarantee any budget one is complete garbage and higher priced ones aren't much better
>vanever again
>switch exhaust fan from silent to standard>cpu temps go from 45-49 to 42-47>went from pushing out warm air to cool air>don't notice a noise increaseguess I'll keep it like this for now
>>103273290you know they fixed that several years agoStill, oleds are cheap just buy those
black smearing + motion blur + TAA must be a hellish experience
>>103273320+ dlss ghosting + ray reconstruction ghostingquintuple threat
>>103272707I've never tried the steel legend, but the pro rs (wifi) didn't work with my ram even though it was on the qvl. I'd stay away from it.
>4k OLED>mandatory DLSS Performance>games become oil paintings>VRR flicker all over the place>can't turn on lights or blacks will turn purple>can't turn on lights or the monitor won't be bright enough>end up browsing /pcbg/ and not playing gamesTruly, the golden experience.
>>103273354why doesnt my phone do this
>>103272274just get a 4060 and it should be 20% better.
>>103273357
>>103273362guess im just not on my iphone15 long enough for this to be an issueusually just reading webnovels in darkmode on my phone actually, and i rarely use my e-reader now
>>103273130>oledI'm in a very sunny room so I don't think oled is the right choice for me.
>>103273354Funny how people regressed to flicker era again, they don't even benefit from it like BFI people do because OLED cannot sustain constant brightness that high to create meaningful BFI.
>>103273375even with apple's sophisticated pixel refresh algorithm, iphones will burn in just like ever other oled screenthe ipads with tandem oleds are muuuch more resistant to this but they'll still burn in eventually to. the O in oled stands for organic. organic material degrades over time. it is inevitable.
i hate u guys, i want oled but u guys are scaring me offi can wait a bit, but some of you guys were also discouraging SSD as late as fucking 2016 maybe even longer when i was upgrading my pc back then
>>103273379Meant for >>103273125
>>103273395are you comfortable buying a new monitor every 3-4 years? no? then don't go oled
>>103273389i get that sprint store is probably an extreme scenario but that use is prob closer for a monitor than my phone i look at every now and theni'll still probably buy an OLED screen as a *secondary* screen at least if there's a good enough sale or maybe as a third screen actually that I turn off when not gaming/watching, i still want 2 monitors for general use
>>103273267it doesn't look like your mobo has bios flashback.so you should get another one that is compatibile with your cpu
>>103273410well i must be wasteful as fk because i've been doing that with LCD this whole time because monitors were progressing so fast the past decade
>>103273426then pull the trigger (on one with a 3 year warranty or better yet, get one from bestbuy with their 4 year geek squad burn in warranty)use the oled as you normally wouldget a replacement when your warranty is almost upthat will get you a solid 3~6 years depending on if your replacement is good or not
>>103273423what do you mean by this? this is my first build.
>>103273362>>103273389Am I the only one with an actual phone?Pic related is a galaxy a51, used for years and years shitposting in broad daylight
>finally upgraded my ancient junker to an ssd having beast rigOh the difference. I forgot that computers are supposed to do the things you tell them right away.
>>103273442"years and years" is not a valuable metric when talking about oledhours on and brightness of the screen are what determine how fast your screen will degrade.
>>103271362any help bros?
>>103273379buy some space blanket and that that over the windows and buy dimmin curtains from amazon
>>103270907>4070 Super>12GB VRAM12 at this point truly is the lowest recommendation, buying a 3060ti amidst the hype back then? 8GB is so little...I'm not buying another gpu unless its like 16GB
>>103273438scroll down a bit on your partpicker sitehere it says>Warning: The MSI PRO B650-S WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard supports the AMD Ryzen 5 9600X 3.9 GHz 6-Core Processor with BIOS version 7E26v1C. If the motherboard is using an older BIOS version, updating the BIOS will be necessary to support the CPU.this means you're gonna have to update your mobo bios before it can actually use your cpu.but I just checked it has an bios flash button so you're good.
>>103273452And posting display models that run 24/7 at full brightness is supposed to be valuable?
I want Battlemage to succeed so that at least AMD will be encouraged to up their game, and then maybe Nvidia by proxy. But I'm all out of hopium that it'll be affordable and decent.
>>103273489MLID IN SHAMBLES
>>103273438You're going to have to download a bios update to a usb drive, and put it in a specific port on the back of the motherboard, hook up the power and press the bios update button. Then it will boot with the cpu.
>>103273486Yes
>>103273482>>103273537okay thank you. Any other changes or suggestions?
>>103273486posting what is essentially “werks on my machine” when talking about oiled burn in is stupid so yes, showing what can actually happen is valuable.
>>103273442The top of your screen is turning blue which means the red and green subpixels are dying at a faster rate.
>>103273468I like the sun though
>>103273489>could be bringing RTX 4070 Super levels of gaming.I'd be surprised if it reaches 3070 levels of gaming.
>>103273486yes, actually. majority of posters are static browsers of upwards 16hrs a day average. meanwhile OLED cope is to only use it 2-5hrs max and make sure to have all screen care software running 24/7 and have it standby after ~30s of no use.
>>103273606put a bias light behind your monitor
>>103273629this could be incredibly bad for me if i start craving to play stellaris again or other strategy games with static menus fuck. i have money but i don't want to just burn it either
>>103273581That was my most used phone, I couldn't even begin to tell you how many hours I do have between it and my galaxy s5 before.The fact it's so spotless gives me much more confidence in any OLED desktop monitor>>103273629>everybody is a neet
Working on my first build in 10+ years and it is killing me that I may need to pick the ASRock B650M-HDV/M2 over the B650 Steel Legend because it looks like a white build is more expensive.Are the 9800X3D and RTX 4070 TI Super going to work out on a US budget of $2000 including a 1440p monitor?
what they don’t tell you is that not only will the pixels on an oled degrade unevenly, but the max peak brightness will degrade over time too.
>>103273678Also MicroATX feels lame but that probably me being nostalgic.
>>103273631It's coming from behind the monitor, this is my point of view while I play vidya
Did anything good even come out since RDR2? A 4060ti maxes that game at 1440p 165hz with barely any studders. Whats even the point of a 5000 card? I'm buying a gun instead.
>>103273700>Whats even the point of a 5000 card? So I can play badly optimized garbage like MonHun Wilds.
>>103273679oled panels mitigate the degradation by running pixel refresh algorithms that ensure all pixels wear out at the same rate, then they up the voltage so the brightness stays similar to a fresh monitor
>>103270907MAJOR MEA CULPAguys I was very wrong. Your power supply needs to be at least 2x your total estimated watts.>:(underwatting my vidya(and being careful not to tax the cpu at the same time)
>>103273679>own oled for a year>notice that my screen clips in the hdr calibration tool at lower brightness nowgrim
>>103273737No?? What the hell did you do.
>>103273712The only hope so far is that Capcom claims that performance has been improved in recent builds. And they'll have to work on it because this game isn't anything smaller like Dragon's Dogma 2, people will notice if it plays like shit.
Any downsides to this monitor?https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CTSC3VS4
is the 5090s comings out fo christmis?i want my mom- er santa to get me one so I can play fortnite
>>103270907how does everyone buy into this incremental improvement by the year bullshit?How often do you guys upgrade your gpus/cpus
>>103273773Aside from the usual oled shit, not really. MSI is unproven to actually honor their burn in warranty thoughever.
>>103273793My last upgrade wasi7 4790k > 12700kRTX 3070 Ti > RTX 4090I might get a 5090 depending on the price
Builderbros....Our response??
>>103273810Posting prebuilts ITT should be a capital offense
>>103273817this isnt r/pcmasterrace
Arc B58012 GB, 192 bit, 19 Gbps GDDR6https://videocardz.com/newz/asrock-arc-b580-has-been-leaked-first-battlemage-graphics-card-features-12gb-vram
>>103273875The battle age anon is going to shit his pants
>>103273875>12 GBSAVED
Continuing with the monitor/panel autism in this thread,Where are the high-refresh-rate miniLED monitors with +2K dimming zones?I could settle with one of the discounted 1440p 240Hz QD-OLEDs, but I'd prefer to stick with a single monitor setup.I use my PC for work and I'll probably end up accelerating panel burn-in.>>103273875>>103273896That's probably the mid-tier variant, Alchemist had A770 as their best card.
>>103273875That's the mid tier, hopefully we know details about the B750 and B770 sooner than later
>>103273679Yea it decays faster than a strobing IPS panel kept at 200+ nits (double or more natively). The sad part is that by default their brightness is not that good.
>>103273688Turn off the yellow thingy>>103273756I have an 850w psu, and a rx6950xt. Somehow, this gpu is a power pig. Allegedly it caps itself at 303w. I have my doubts. I wonder how high it really can get.If you think about it, it's insane that it can compete with the 4090 sometimes. This implies bs when it comes to power:>older architecture>amd, to boot>old drunk technology
Why shouldn't I pull the trigger? I'm not considering the cheaper AOC.
>>103273934>Alchemist had A770I genuinely was excited about Alchemist, and feel a bit of remorse over hopium. It literally was only good at one ai upscaler, otherwise it sucked.Battlemage hopium, anyone?
>>103273964You should. The tariff war is gonna get crazy homie. good in the end, suck in the middle. lame duck with a mandate, it's not been had in a while.
>>103273966>Battlemage hopium, anyone?setting yourself up for disappointment
>>103273966>Battlemage hopium, anyone?It's another dud, if Intel had a winner in Battlemage they wouldn't have delayed the release this long.Expect the best Battlemage card to be lucky to match the 5060Ti.
>>103273964>OLED
>>103273810it's a $400 7800x3d microcenter bundle + $600 4070s, $100 for the SSD, $100 for the other parts, $70 for the case, $50 for the keyboard and mouse, and a $100 tax to the person who built the PC.Overall good value, you get what you paid for, warranty beyond the best buy warranty is sketchy (most parts have 3-5 years).
>>103273966God no the a770 has its niche in budget and htpc buildsBattlemage is more Vega lite
>>103273875Amazon description:>B-series pixel pushers, more excitingly known as Battlemage, will be the best graphics cards Intel has ever made. Following the chaos of Alchemist, the company has practically resigned its graphics architecture from the ground up. Providing there are no unexpected instabilities lurking in the Xe2 architecture, they should make for much more compelling competition to GeForce and Radeon. That’s across the desktop and mobile space.that's funny
>>103273985>$400 7800x3d microcenter bundleThat bundle is $599 now since the 7800x3d spiked in value
>mobos are getting sold outgot FOMO and bought
>>103272798Either buy an older board or buy a Nova if you want X870E. Those are your options.
>>103271730>Yes. Diminishing returns hit hard and fast, in retrospect I've wasted a fair bit of money on things I don't need.kek i've been planning to buy a PC for almost an entire year, I started with a budget of 2500 € and it's just been a gradual dawning of "i don't really need this shit" and "i can do without that shit". in the end i will buy Ryzen 5 7600, any good 1080p GPU on sale, a 144 or so Hertz 24'' FHD monitor and call it a day.
I've been out of the PC building/upgrade game for awhile but decided to upgrade a little now that I'm finding I'm landing in the "low" settings for games like Space Marine 2, Darktide and STALKER 2.For reference: this is what I currently have, vs what I'm putting together. My budget is 1,200 CAD. Looking to get some thoughts here and if theres anything I can swap out to optimize within my budget?CURRENT:G. Skill Trident Z 16GB DDR-3200 memoryi5-8600k @ 3.60GHZ, 2600 Mhz, 6 CoreZ370 Gaming Pro Carbon (MS-7B45)Geforce GTX 1060 6GBThermaltake Chaser MKI ATX Full Tower CaseEVGA SuperNOVA NEX750B 750 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power SupplyUpgrading to:AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core ProcessorThermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU CoolerMSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 MotherboardG.Skill Flare X5B 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 MemoryMSI VENTUS 2X BLACK OC GeForce RTX 4060 8 GB Video CardThermaltake Chaser MK-I ATX Full Tower Case (Re-using to save money)EVGA SuperNOVA NEX750B 750 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (re-using to save money)
>>103272798i went with a X870 AORUS Elite
>>103274082why not just go for the x3d chip?
>>103273934>>103273964I just bought the MSI MAG 271QPX QD-OLED E2, even 240Hz is overkill for the games I play.Good deal considering 240Hz IPS monitors used to cost $500, and they're still not exactly cheap.
Someone convince me I don't need a 9800x3d. I live near a microcenter and they've been getting good stock weekly at MSRP. I was going to upgrade to a 7800x3d originally before their prices went through the roof and are only $30 less than the 9800x3d now. I am still on AM3
>>103274135You'd be retarded not to buy a 9800x3d if it fits your price range and you're mainly just going to play video games/browse the internet.
>>103274130Enjoy the burn-in 3 months after use and MSI denying replacement
>>103274135go get it son.
>>103274135Better to get one now before the tariffs rape your anus. If you decide you don’t need it, you can sell it for much more than you originally bought it for next year.
>>103274148>>103274156Shit alright anons. It's a little more than I wanted to spend on a CPU but it seems like it's going to be future proof for at least 4 years
does anyone still use newegg? Even with the pormo codes and rebates amazon with prime is cheaper unless I want to pay 100$ extra in shipping to not wait a week and a half.
>>103274199their combo deals are usually pretty solid during big sales like this. otherwise i avoid them due to how shitty their returns used to be. it's better now but you know how it is fixing a bad reputation
>>103274199Newegg isn't as bad as people make them out to be.I split my PC component purchases between Amazon and Newegg and had 0 issues with either.Be aware of Newegg's video card & motherboard return policies, I think they only send you a 1:1 replacement for video cards (no refunds if the package is unsealed).Motherboards, don't give them any excuse to deny refund/replacement. Make sure the socket cover is properly installed and you didn't fuck up the pins etc.
>>103272091So... 5070 Ti's gonna be the best choice?
>>103274082https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/6HvJVFI don't know if you're hung up on wanting nvidia but they're essentially the same performance, the 7600 can save you $30 and its the same processor with eco mode turned on by default.motherboard you selected is fine but this is what I'd pick. you never mentioned if you had an SSD or not so I threw in the cheapest 2tb available.
>>103274224newegg got its bad rep from monitors mainly. holy fuck they needed like a shitload of dead pixels to even consider taking a return. they rightfully got flamed to shit over it and changed somewhat
bros is the 4080S gonna be enough for 1440p? how many years would it even last over getting like a 4090
>>103274161All you need to do is look at the graphs of how much it outperforms everything else at gaming. If you do rendering and shit? Buy Intel. People don't want to hear that, but if you do like... actual job shit with your computer and aren't a code monkey or spreadsheet ape then you need Intel because of the cores.
>>103272401For me it's the 4080sSoonest upgrade is probably the 7000 series but we will probably be balls deep in ww3 at that time
>>103274319the 9950X outperforms the 14900K but the 14900K has better gaming performance, nobody should be buying 15th gen. the 9950X3D is going to be a monster.
>>1032737935850hd to 4070
>>103274312Don't expect to be getting higher than native 120 fps for AAA games at high/ultra settings.I'm a power schizo so I don't run my 4080 Super at uncapped frames.
>>103274362>went to nvidiatraitor
>>103274388It hurt desu
>>103274319>All you need to do is look at the graphs of how much it outperforms everything else at gaming.I am a 1440p chad but I think I am still going to buy it.
>all PC parts arriving on sunday thanks to prime.>Except the case which will either get here the 2nd of December or Wednesday if I get it on newegg.>can't find a two day delivery case on amazon without either paying much more or getting a gaymer rbg abomination.
Is b650 steel legend enough for 9800x3d or should I go x870?
do you guys think any 4080 super will fit in my case picrel? according to the measurements of the case and some 4080 supers like msi ventus the card itself should fit but im not sure if the connector will fit with the side panel on
>was going to buy one of the 4k oled's for $1000 yesterday>check today>it's $1200 because the fuckers raised the base price to $1500 and then knocked $300 off that inflated price to make seem like you're still saving as much money as beforechrist that is some scummy shit
>finally got a job again after 11 months of unemploymenthaha time to spend all my money on pc parts lets fucking go boys just in time for upcoming gpus
I really want to get the $50 NR200 but I have no use for it
>>103274475Every time
>>103274475Post page liar
X870E Nova in EU fucking when? I just want to enjoy my 9800x3D...
>>103274462The easiest way to estimate case width compatibility with the 12VHPWR connector is to add 40mm to the case's maximum CPU cooler height.I got a 4080 Super FE installed in a boomer Antec case, and the connector barely has the recommended 35mm extra bend clearance.
>>103274531https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1833144-REG/asus_pg32ucdp_32_4k_oled_240hz.htmlpic related is the price from yesterday/earlier today
Am I missing something about the B650 Steel Legend over the B650E version? It has 14+2+1 80A Dr.MOS with 20k caps over the 16+2+1 60A SPS with 12k caps on the B650E version, an extra PCIe4x1 slot, better audio (ALC4082 vs. ALC897), additional USB ports and 802.11axe instead of 802.11ae. Why is it cheaper?
>>103274388NTA but amd have permanently lost the chance to capture me as a customer after covid>be me>in the year 202x with an i i7-4770 and a gt 1030 (really)>endless time to game now>never really cared about my specs before because all i played was text based games and ancient shit and Paradox games (hence the strong cpu)>now all my friends are around too because of lockdown so we all make a steam group to play shit together>cant even play games like Mordhau that they are all playing>check for pc parts>insane scalping, 5x msrp on everything>even 1660 ti is like $800>Holy Fuck>snag an R9 290x for like $300; apparently not a popular card>things run 5000x better on it this is awesome, 1080p 60 high settings in every game now!>driver bugs and crashes out the ass>skyboxes turn into rainbow puke and text turns into scattered pixels sometimesThe issues were intermittent enough that i just gritted my teeth and dealt with it, but as soon as i could get a new nvidia card at msrp, which turned out to be a 3060, I dropped that thing with extreme prejudice. I will never go back to AMD after that experience. Shitty ass drivers from hell. Sure, AMD performance is good, but the drivers are iffy so it's irrelevant, and Nvidia has never given me a problem with the drivers...Maybe I'm being unfair, maybe the card was faulty in a way that is a bit uncharacteristic of a faulty card from everything i read (there were no horizontal or vertical lines of gpu memory death) but all i know is i associated all the bad moments i had during the pandemic with radeon and the brand is dead to me.
>>103274584>the one store run by literal jews changed the base priceit's still $1200 everywhere else
I found a german provider who sells this exact list of parts pre-built but for about 150 bucks less than what partpicker shows.I am very tempted to buy but I haven't been up to date on hardware for nearly 10 years now.Included the monitor because it says to in the OP.Is this deal any good?https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2jnf8Q
>>103274462Ignore that Antec advice, I'm not thinking straight.You'd want the sum of the GPU width and the recommended 35~40mm bend clearance for the 12VHPWR cable to be less than the case's maximum CPU cooler height clearance.The 4080 FE has an advertised width of 123mm, I'd want my case to support a maximum CPU cooler height of at least 170mm.It can still not be enough because case manufacturers aren't completely honest with their clearance specs.
Which nvidia GPU manufacturer has the best customer service? Or at the very least not a terrible customer service?PNY? Zotac? ASUS? MSI? Gigabyte?All varying degrees of awful?I'm looking at ASUS products and the only thing that's stopping me from purchasing is that they're apparently terrible to work with if something goes wrong.
>>103272091600wThere are european countries where this will be illegal.
>>103274648In my experience Gigabyte but I know people will disagree with me. MSI is apparently decent too
>>103271411Have you considered voice acting with him in a shota?
>>103274654I think it's wasteful for a video card to draw that much power to render games, but people can do wtvr they want with their money.
>replace cablemod angled cable for official corsair one>12v drops even lowerwelp
>>103272091I can't even blink at these knowing supers will come down the road. I bought a 3000 series card before the ti models dropped and regretted it in the long run
>>103270987>Seethe-nhagen
>>103274752Just like the 40 series, you either buy the 5090 or you get fucked.
>>103274703The reported minimums include some droops that can be measured by the software.My PSU is an ATX 2.x Seasonic Prime GX with the NVIDIA adapter bundled with the card.Boost frequency is capped because the card is undervolted at 950mV.
>>103274772i am actually monitoring it using hwinfo..i even have a thermal sensor on the cable itself (that's the 37 degree thing)with the cablemod cable i very rarely dropped below 11.9v but with the corsair cable it goes as low as 11.7v. well, if something happens corsair should have my back...
>>103274752I'm still a bit bitter with the GTX 980 (4GB) I bought about 3~4 months before the 980 Ti (6GB) was released.Tech leakers weren't as resourceful as they are now, and some publications were saying NVIDIA had no plans to release a 980 Ti...I would've waitfagged™ a bit longer if the GTX 980 had 6GB of VRAM.
>>103274801bro...
>>103274801your shame will live on forever
Is there any downside to this 4K OLED MSI monitor I could be missing? It's normal price is ~$900 and according to Rtings it competes with monitors that are typically $1300 (but are down to about 900-1000 during black friday right now).
>>103274843The downside is that you will have to replace it in a few years and also need a 4090 and probably a 5090 asap.
>>103274794I wouldn't worry about it too much, I don't think there have been any 4090s with Corsair PSUs that suffered a meltdown (excluding dodgy Cablemod adapter).
>>103274770I don't game at 4k so I don't participate in the rat race quite as much. If anything I'm waiting for the 50 series to drop so prices on 4070 supers go down a bit more. I don't even want to upgrade my GPU but the 8GB is going to become more and more of a problem
>>103272091>5080 is a rebadged 4080sLmao
>>103274843Yeah it's an oled monitor. Stick with ips
>>103274963I mean it's $300 than other OLED monitors when it's not Black Friday.
>>103274959>so prices on 4070 supers go down a bit moreThey cut production months ago, you won't find new 4070s on discount. At best you'll be able to pick up a used one for cheaper if the 5070/5080 is good and if it's cheap enough for most people to upgrade to.
>>103274999Perhaps I will end up moving back to AMD. We'll see. 5070 has to be at least 12GB VRAM to be worth it for people at this point, any less is cucked as hell
>>103275031The 5070 will be 12gb and that's still cucked.If nvidia gave a shit>5060 12gb>5070 16gb (it's basically gonna be a 4080)>5080 24gb (10% better 4090)>32gb 5090But all the sub 90s will serve no purpose but to push people towards the 5090. Sad.
>>103275071Yeah that's wishful thinking
I want a monitor with QD-OLED (not WOLED), glossy screen, 4K, has Dolby Vision, has input lag below 16ms. Does it exist?
>>103275115the aw3225qf but its curved
>>103275163>>103275115oh yea the asus monitor has dolby vison too
Is there a significant difference in performance between different brands of CPU coolers?I have a Scythe dual tower cooler and was wondering if it would be worth to "upgrade" it to a more well known brand but I'm not sure if there'd be any major difference. My temps are fine like 50C idle 70C gaming im just autistic about performance.Ive never tried water cooling but people say it isnt any better
Meh, I'm just going to wait for the 6090 to come out and buy a brand new 4090 for the price of a peanut
>>103275185>implying there will be a 6090thermonuclear war will be resetting us back a few generations
>>103275193>nuclear war>become rapefugee in AfricaThe future is bright.
>>103275200find god
>>103275172It depends on your CPU, if it's a 14900K there's going to be a difference.If it's a relatively low-power drawing CPU (sub 100W gaming load), it won't make much difference.Making sure the tower cooler is installed properly with even & enough mounting pressure will make more difference than buying a new CPU cooler for most people.Scythe Mugen 6 dual fan edition is a nice air cooler, but Thermalright coolers are still more cost efficient.
>>103275163I've never used a curved screen, what is the opinion on them for a 32"? Both for games and for movies?>>103275167The Asus seems nice except these numbers worried me. Could the input lag be unstable and spike with an unstable framerate?
>>103275257Oh and I guess the Asus is Displayport 1.4 and that might be a problem? Something about 'DSC'?
>>103274962GeForce X080 tier GPUs are going to be gimped until NVIDIA decides to design a separate laptop GeForce X090 chip.That probably won't happen because laptop X090 chips aren't a high-volume product.
>>103275257>>1032752711. It's a 1000R curve so it's basically not noticeable and easy to adjust to.2. They all use DSC to achieve 4k 240hz. There wouldn't be enough bandwidth on nvidia cards otherwise anyway. 3. The input lag numbers on rtings are always very inconsistent. I would take them with a grain of salt although the alienware numbers are a little better. Either way you wouldn't notice the difference.
>>103275317Ah I see thanks for the callout on the Alienware one.Seems like it really is coming down to these two and it's just a question of if I want to gamble on the curve.Curious if anecdotally do you like curved monitors? It's not obvious to me what they're meant to achieve.
>>103275193>>103275200don't worry, trump probably will get assassinated in 2025 in minecraft so things won't be that bad, vote blue next time and we might have a chance to carpet bomb russia and china and north korea with nuclear warheads and finally secure total world peace
>>103275332>Curious if anecdotally do you like curved monitorsNot really. I returned a 1700R curve monitor because it was too much for me. 1000R isn't that bad. I have some flat monitors that i use along with the alienware and switching between them isn't weird or jarring.
>>103275244Thanks, very useful chart
Yes, this is autism speaking.
>me>i'll just wait until a good 4k oled monitor comes out to upgrade>7 years later>still waitingdisplayport 2.1 has been out for like 3 fucking years but not a single fucking 4k oled uses it yet. They are all capped at 120HZ without compression. What is the point of paying over a thousand dollars for a "240HZ" display if it can't even display that because of the ports?
>>103275435stop being retardedyou can not tell when dsc is being used
USA and budget is around 700 and ideally 800 usd.my friend wants to get a new gaming pc with a main focus on elden ring and maybe black myth wukong (unsure yet). this is what he has so far, he's asking if it's good so far and if there's anyway to make this build cheaper. budget is as stated above, but if possible he wants it as cheap as possible without sacrificing any performance. he's able to get a m.2ssd and video card through his dad's company cost, so he'll also save money there
>>103275652tell him to just buy a ps5 pro
>>103271052I'm running on a 4090 and can wait comfortably until a 5090 becomes available and less overpriced than at launch.> Maybe get an AMD card instead.picrel
>>103275071> 5080 24gb (10% better 4090)touch grass nigger
>>103271881Explaining this to aircooler poorfags is in vain. They just can't afford to understand.
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-48-class-b4-series-oled-4k-uhd-smart-webos-tv-2024/6584787.p?skuId=6584787BUY BUY BUUUUUUY
If I'm upgrading from nvidia to nvidia, do I need to DDU and reinstall drivers?
>>103275794>muh smart>muh aiget marketed, idiot
>>103271592Bullshit. I upgraded from 24" FHD to 32" 4k and it was the most pleasurable decision I ever made.
>>103275689he wants a pc
>>103275820tell him he is wasting his time and money
>>103275803no but it doesn't hurt
>>103271174As long as you don't know what you want any motherboard would be the wrong one.
>>103275738What's wrong with AMD cards? Unless you're dead set on using meme tracing they seem like much better value cards.
>>103275652Save 70$ by digging a case out of trash or run open air
>>103275839>dlss>frame gen>ray tracing>cuda lets not kid ourselves here amd cards are currently a waste of silicon
>>103275845you also forgot reflex
>>103275803>that yellow text does this fucker live on a bubble of kike semen or whatthats not famboyism that basically alternative timeline level delusions
>>103275827i did>>103275843case was the one non negotiable thing
>>103275862>case was the one non negotiable thingTell him nobody gives a fuck what brand case he has. What a retard. Ask around in second hand stores or friends.
>>103275861From what people have said, Intel is embarrassed that he has such a large platform and shills for them in such a terrible way. Like there's shilling-shilling and then there's shit like this.
>>103275870will do
>>103275883is your "friend" autistic anon
>>103275845And if I don't care about ray tracing? Is there anything actually wrong with the cards?
>>103275861brain damaged. genuinely. I can't imagine simping for any company this hard without being paid an insane amount
>>103275885uh no
>>103275889>completley ignore all the other pointsenjoy your amd cards anon i aint trying to convince a retard to do anything
>>103275889dlss is much more relevant than raytracing. it is actually used and expected by modern shit devs. amd has FSR but it's not as good yet
>>103275883>>103275885>>103275894>>103275870https://pcpartpicker.com/user/KaboomIsCool/saved/XNP3Hxhere
>>103275902nvm keeps changinghttps://pcpartpicker.com/user/KaboomIsCool/saved/hJfHRB
>>103275845>marketing buzzwords
>>103275924>they are buzzwords because my team's version of them suck dicklol mental illness
>>103273309>VRR Flickerlolol
>>103275933Nvidia's versions also suck dick but they market you into believing you need them
>>103275185your gonna be waiting a decade to get one for under 1k
>>103275911any final thoughts before he buys it? he also told individuals here to uhh "kys"...
Pop os, ubuntu, mint, or debian?
https://wccftech.com/intel-arc-b580-battlemage-gpu-leak-confirms-12-gb-memory-standard-power-connectors-up-to-2-8-ghz/>12gb 2x8pinlololthis was the gpu battlemage fags where waitng for? my a770 has 16gb!
>>103276028>standard gddr6
>>103276028>BRUH IT WILL TOTALLY PERFORM LIKE THE 4070TI JUST LIKE THE A770 PERFORMS LIKE THE 3080!
>have to oc ram just to match stock ryzenLOLOLhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxCXe9MC3nU>>103276037works on my 7900 xtx just oc it lmao
>>103275895dlss isn't needed unless you use ray tracing in the first place though. Or if you want to play hilariously unoptimized slop.I'm just not seeing the point in paying a premium when I could get the performance I want for much cheaper.I'm strictly talking about gaymin here btw, for work applications I can see RTX cards being wanted.
>>103276045my a770 was slower than my 1080ti and 1080 in certain games LOLVR was completely broken too only worked in virtual desktop but was slow rtx 2070 level but was bug free unlike gaymd
>>103276053>Or if you want to play hilariously unoptimized slop.LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MODERN GAYMES
>>103276055>bug freewhy are you lying.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjYSeT-T5uk
My current computer has an RTX 3070 And an intel 10900f CPU. If I upgraded to something like a 4080 or 4090 (well, it will be some 5000 card but we don't know the specs yet), could my CPU be a bottleneck?I'm getting a 4K 240hz monitor so goal will be to just get as much frames as I can get above 60.
Is it safe to buy intel cpu now? I heard the latest 14th i7 series light peoples pc on fire.
>>103276064Not likely unless you are playing heavily cpu bound shit though 10900 is quite a few gens old at this point. I would consider upgrading but you don't have to buy a 9800x3d if you're playing at 4k
>>103276073sure they're pretty energy efficient for laptops
>>103276064at 4k? depends. dlss on? yeah probably. no dlss or frame gen? no
>>103276073just get a 7800x3d and call it a day bro, incel cpus are too unstable nowadays
>>103276073intel is dead until 2026 anoneither get a 7800x3d/9800x3d or wait for nova lake
>>103276081Yeah I figure I should bite the bullet eventually I just feel like at that point I'll be building a whole new PC instead of just getting a graphics card.
>>103276059If it's that bad I'll just go back to playing hentai games and emulating pokemon
i have a merc310 7900XTX on the way from the amazon salebut the best cpu mobo bundle i can get is a 7700x
>>103276093>MFW have a 13600k oc'd to 5.3 all core no e cores>and a 9800x3d i have no mobo or ram for yet
>>103276162Why did you waste your money
>>103276111my 13600k serveerly bottlenecks it so id save for a 9800x3d if i was you otherwise your just shooting yourself in the foot>>103276166because i wanted one and scalpers can go suck a dick >:3
7800x3d would make so much more sense if it was meaningfully lower priced than the 9800x3d again. I'd pay 350 for one. Not 450 for one when 9800 3d is 479. Do we think it's ever going back down?
>>103276205amd put the price of all the x3d cpus up just greedy to push everyone to the 98x3d like what happened to me
>>103276210Then they'll drop a 9700x3d 6 months down the road and get praised for it
>>103276210And amd drones will do it because they happily do the thing they accuse nvidia/intel users of
>>103276231its disgusting>>103276232because they are all colluding x86 alliance look it up
>>103276210Nah, they pulled an nvidia and cut supply for the 7800x3d, the 9800x3d also sells out immediately everywhere so that allows prices to remain high. Even fucking motherboards are out of stock at this point you'll have to wait till mid January if you want to build with a 9800x3d.
>>103276263im lucky i snipered a board and ram off ali that will be here next week and got my 980x3d 3days ago
>>103275652>r5 am4>hyper 212 BLACKED>16gb ram>3060>compact atx>650w psuKEK this is literally me 5 years ago
>>103276111>but the best cpu mobo bundle i can get is a 7700xman, it's good, I'm on 7700x since launch, never failed me.I skipped all the stutter complaints people had about UE5 games.
>>103276171what if it was a choice between 7700x + 7900XTXor 9800X3D + 7800XT
>>1032762957900XTX, duhI'm on XT personally, but I like it a lot.
>>103276295there isnt a choice98x3d + 79xtxanything more or less will bottleneck and 4090's aarent an option especially not now with 600w+ 5090 dogshit still jacking the price up
>>103276288https://pcpartpicker.com/user/KaboomIsCool/saved/mcTBTWthis is his current one
>>103276299im also on the 79xtx 2slot cooler pulse goes hard as fuck insane how its caught up to the 4090 a year later
>>103276303>98x3d + 79xtxif i did then id have no money left to upgrade the other bottleneck, the monitor
>>103276313or just crank the super sampling/downscaling and not give a fuck?what is it anyways!
>>103276313for me it goes like thisMonitor>GPU>CPU>RAM. the rest is too minor.Monitor is the main window into wahtever youa re doing, GPU is just a tool to make it smooth. CPU+RAM makes everything less annoying to run.So my advice go good monitor+7900XTX+7700x.
>>103276329yeah i agree with that priority, have read enough about oled for and against here that im prob just waiting for a good salealso gonna head in to canada computers or best buy sometime this weekend to see in person if it looks nice enough to get it as a secondary display reserved for gaming/watching only
>>103276311drivers improved since release i presume? i did hear something similar happened to even the cpus which is apparently why the 7700x is somehow almost equivalent sometimes even better than the 9700x for some reason
>>103276028In fairness, this isn’t the replacement for the A770, it’s the replacement for the A580 which is a cut down A750 to begin with. The real judge for whether a hypothetical B770 ends up being any good will be in terms of architecture and drivers. If not, Intel is fucked.
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