How to request advice:>Budget>Intended use (media, source, environment)>Frequency response preference and music examples>Past gear and your thoughts on themFAQ:>Where do I buy IEMs?Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio>Shopping Guide (IEMs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide>EQ Guide (Measurements, Targets, Equalizer, etc.):https://rentry.org/IEM-EQ-Guide>/iemg/ Proto-Blog/Wikihttps://rentry.org/iemgazette>Frequency Response Graph Toolsquig.link>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:• EPZ Q1 Pro / G10 (Harman) - $35• TRN Conch (bright V) - $35• Kefine Klean (bassy neutral) - $50• Simgot EA500LM (bright V) - $90>Bullet IEMs:• Final E500 (dark) - $25• Tanchjim One DSP (neutral) - $30• Etymotic ER2XR (neutral) - $100>Flathead Earbuds:• Blue Vido (warm) - $5• Faaeal Iris 2.0 (warm) - $10>USB-C DACs:• JCALLY JM20 - $24• Fosi Audio DS2 2024 (CS43131) - $45• Tanchjim Space - $90• Qudelix 5K - $110>PMPs:• HiBy R1 - $85• Hifi Walker H2 / Surfans F20 (Rockbox) - $120• FiiO JM21 - $200• HiBy M300 - $200• Hidizs AP80 Pro-X - $200Previous thread: >>103273039
Remember to fox your cat.
everyone quiet, daddy's speakinghttps://youtu.be/g50298WdnXI
>>103291348tu foxx to un chad o un beta?
remember to avoid transjimmy pos
>>103291383>user error
Reminder if you own more than 2 IEM you are addicted
what if my third pos is in transit
>>103291358
>>103291383>t. picrel
Remember to bully Crinacle for being too fat.
If I want to hear my surroundings, are my only options tws, headpos, or flathead earbuds?I have a pair of Vidos and they're fine, but obviously not as good sounding as my other pos.Is there a better option out there? And how can I know if my Vidos aren't fakes?
5+2/t10 power couple
>>103291448pos with smaller footprint
>>103291353Reviews are a meme.
>>103291397>Reminder if you own more than Chu 2 IEM you are addictedftfy
>>103291577Post waistline with timestamp
Q1 Pros just arrived. Initial impressions: more comfortable than my Zero2, but their stock tuning is a bit too bright.
I'm looking for wireless flathead in the low to mid budget segment, any recs?
FOXFAG GIVE ME LINK TO CUSTOM EPZ FACE PLATE
>>103291763Scarbir.com Oppo Enco Air 3 is the top rec currently.
>>103291852You need to offer a young foxgirl (virgin) to foxIEM-fag to impart upon you his wisdom.
>>103291891thanks a bunch, dude
I bought new iem :)
>>103291987Why did you buy that pos...
I boughted Artti T10 Pro :D
Anyone recommend earbuds with very strong isolation to use in a loud environment (basically earplugs)?
>>103291713Reason why you should actively avoid shout galore pos.
>>103292016etymotics is your best shot
>>103291987Lmao he fell for it
>>103291987fucking retard kek
>>103292016Etymotic ear dildos are made to both be an ear plug, and an IEM at the same time If you're too autistic to handle noise outside you can pair them with over ear noise protection also, no more over stim issues anon
Are You Ready?
>>103292137>28 BA KZAbsolutely postastic...
>>103292137>28 BA>actually 14 BA per side>only 1 works
Gonna buy the Etymodicks and Zero Reds for the full Earpussy stretching experience. Legend has it my ears will be able to hear the 4th dimension once I buy those two.
>>103292045But they're in the sticky? Thought they were highly recommended.Once the highs are tamed with eq they're not bad.
>>103291852Ask the seller, the link is not visible in some countries. In that case you order an extra g10.
>>103292163>Zero Reds Beaten by the DEUCE clocking whole 7,0mm nozzle.
Please tell me they'll restock the new Asano figure...
>>103292174Their stock tuning is supposed to be brighter than zero2, if you EQ it doesn't matter, the comfort and the driver are good.
>>103292215last time i saw the listing, only 16 figures were soldseems like it was a rather limited time thing, considering the sun/moon aesthetic
>>103292215>didn't buy it when it was $13 using coinsDummy.
>>103292137Weak shit
>>103292065>>103292100Thanks, I may be an autist but I'm also in legitimately loud spots with industrial machinery.I will look for etymotic clones since the sound quality is not as important to me and they might get destroyed by the work environment.
>>103292280>etymotic clonesthe only ones available are on aliexpress and cost around the same as their entry-level er2 series on saleif you just want the isolation, etymotic has a series of cheaper sets (mk5, kids series, etc) that can be eq'd for great sound quality
>>103292280I'd still recommend etymotics, they actually test to make sure their IEMs are viable for loud environments
>>103292337To add to this, gambling with your hearing for chink shit doesn't seem worth it, especially if you're using them for protection more then sound
>>103289643I dont want to throw money, im poor, could you all suggest $0.5 DAC dongle
>>103292430This is the cheapest dongles with no glaring issues.
>>103292306>>103292337>>103292350OK I'll do it if that's how it's gotta be.I want to cheap out because they'll be subject to an abusive environment but no point in buying something useless.
>>103292016Why not get any iem that you think suits you and wear ear muffs over them?
what is the best sub $20 pos with the best tech? please no bully
>>103292503>best techany pos + eq (guide)
>>103292459Required to wear a helmet for safety
>>103292503Techs = price so whatever costs exactly $19.99
New IEM arrived, i like it. Thanks for reading my review.
>>103292589added to gazette, thank you
>>103292589illuminating
>>103292589It's over.
>>103291652is chuzo fat or what?
>>103291397Nah i'd win
>>103292639>all posTragic, my condolences.
>>103292639All this shit when you could have gotten something good like the u12t or solos lol
>>103292719>faceplate falls off after 2 weeks
>>103292719>good
>>103291397>bought my first iem 2 months ago>already thinking of getting a new oneIt's over for me...At least this things are cheap
>>103292639whats the best min/max for price/quality in your opinion?
>>103292639u..urghhh why did you...
>buy JM20>refreshes page>Ultra and Max versions pop up with better specs, in-line mic support, EQ, etcwhy are chinks like that
Today is the last day, final pos impressions:>Symphonium Crimson Bright detailed treble, and equally detailed bass. However, the Crimson lacks sub-bass slam (because it’s a BA-only set?). The bass is punchy but there’s no physicality to it. Unremarkable mids, with female vocals being slightly recessed to give a sense of wider soundstage. Guitar plucks have that summit-fi extension and detail but low-end instruments (like the tuba) sound lifeless. Overall, nicely executed V. Decent “techs” which competes against other IEMs around its price range. The pros outweigh the cons. 8/10.>Nightjar SingularityIncredible bass - detailed and very deep. Timbre is natural and accurate. Female vocals are clean, and plenty of sparkle despite the boosted low-end. However, on certain songs with a constant low-end presence, the bass becomes distracting, as the Singularity gives you a persistent sub-bass rumble which never stops. The bass-heavy tuning also results in a peculiar soundstage: the cello is too close, but the violin is too far. The timpani is too close, but snare drum sounds too far. Piano timbre also varies because low-end keystrokes are too pronounced. However, the midrange of Singularity is still surprisingly clean: there’s good resolution and no mud. 7/10.>Eminent Ears RubyAnother summit-fi IEM with hot treble. I call this the “class 3 listener” tuning – lesser bass and more crisp and airy treble. Also sacrificing mids for female vocal specialization. Male vocals sound anemic. Joins the likes of the Empire Ears Odin and Aroma Feiwan. Summit-fi manufacturers really love doing this sort of tuning. IMO, if you want that clinical resolution just get the U12T. Even the cheaper Crimson is more enjoyable. 5/10.
>>103292801Cherish the time when you are genuinely excited about pos and the setup and have the will to consoomI am already burnt out so just don't care
>>103292907jm20 is a reference cs43131 implementation, when chinks start adding their own twists on the implementation is when things go off the rails. If you want mic specifically get jm40, mic is a stock part of es9280c.
What are some /iemg/ approved android music apps?
>>103292866Inawaken Dawn or Supermix 4
>>103292919That middle pos looks like your average $35 chink set. That cable looks dreadfully cheap.
>>103293061Poweramp for excellent EQ or any app + good EQ like JamesDSP Magisk or if you don't have root, Wavelet or Poweramp's standalone EQ
>>103293061USB Audio Player Pro, Musicolet and Auxio
>>103293061Poweramp for PEQ and decent UI, same for UAPP, or anything + wavelet/jamesdsp. Most standalone PEQ apps have flaws, including Poweramp's EQ app (non-ideal filter implementation)The actual best is Symfonium, which is made for both local files but also hosted music (plex/jellyfin/emby, navidrome, etc) and features wavelet-like EQ.
>>103293061Black Player EX
>>103292801If you find something that's comfy, looks good, and learn EQ, then that feeling goes away.
>>103293116That cable retails for $525 btw
>>103293467it probably comes infused with techs so no wonder
>>103293467Chinkapore can't stay complacent and keep half assing anymore, mainland chinks are raising the standards. Their mouthpieces on headpos.com can only do so much.
>>103292137finally an aful cantor competitor
>>103293690more like a knockoff Cantor which by itself is a knockoff Canpur
>>103292919Dang loved the look of that Nightjar Singularity, until I checked the price.
>>103293775it's just midrange buddy
>>103293888kill all headfi niggers
oh my gawd ! imagine if pros had Chu 2 + EQ instead of SE215...
>>103294346pos getting clogged right in the middle of match would be devastating
>>103291448well...
>>103294346Those are the se846 Mr poorfag
>but 5th IEM >Same left right channel imbalance as the other 4How do I stop getting chinked lol
>>103294689How exactly can you tell
>>103294738show measurements
>>103292137>Are You Ready?BAs produce unnatural sound. Theyr'e all shit. The only good thing about them is small size. They suck shit at actual sound reproduction.
>>103294689proof?
>>103294738sounds like your ears might be imbalanced broit might be over for you
>>103294764Can I ask what iems with BAs have you tried before?
>>103294764you're not wrong at all>The moving iron speaker was the earliest type of electric loudspeaker. They are still used today in some miniature speakers where small size and low cost are more important than sound quality.
>>103294784Literally everything exhibited at CanJam Dallas 2024 from a couple of weeks ago. I must have tried 100+ IEMs including all the kilobuck shit.
>hexas start sounding a bit quieter on the right side>very slight difference, but just enough to be noticeable>think that some earwax must have gotten to the little sound tube>fiddle with a small needle and try to blow some air into the hole because some guy said it worked>sound is completely muffled, assume they are fucked beyond repair>dig out an older set of iems for replacement>channel imbalance is still there>wtf>try the hexas again after an hour>now they sound like before, but the imbalance is still there>pop my ears and the imbalance is goneI feel like a retard
>>103294812Ah okay so Bellsings and B-Stock Knowles and Sonion, thanks.
>>103294796>you're not wrong at allIt's impossible to make BAs sound good. They move so little air that you need a lot of them to make anything sound good. Not to mention that due to the physics, they're always 'slower' than DDs.
I have no idea what to get during this sale. I'm looking for good fitting, good looking, non-metal sets with good stock tuning (ie nothing too extreme in tuning philosophy) but that's rather hard to find.I think I'll just get the FiiO BTR13 and some tips, and declare this a victory for my anti-consoomer part of the brain.
>>103294827>Ah okay so Bellsings and B-Stock Knowles and Sonion, thanks.HOLY COPE!
>>103294825you can replace filters, look for knowles filters or their clones and the filter removal tool
>use hairdryer >maximum heat>blow air in ear>immediately wear pos>high temp = high speed of soundworth the ear infection
>>103294849If it's not Jerry Harvey, Westone, or Etymotic, then it's not the real deal.
>>103294880Literal garbage, garbage, garbage.
Contrarian moment
>>103294888etymotic is good
>>103294917So is the Westone Mach series, at least 60, 70, 80, but people too accustomed to 10+ ear gain, treble peaks (le sparkle), and limp mids, and also need their iems to look like women's jewlery will bitch about it/pretend it doesn't mog their trash. I will admit Jerry Harvey is trash doe.
>>103294982>westone>goodI wouldn't be so confident about that, at least Westone isn't. I ain't paying a grand for this kind of measurement.
Daily reminder that IEM's eventually lose their techs as your ears get used to them.
>>103295165nta but that's not the machpretty bad, but not unlistenable
>>103295165>>103295186the absolute state of mutts LMAO
>>103294982shit wrong graph, still doesn't change the fact
>>103295186The engineer can't hear above 8k?
>>103295177That's like every sensory enhancement device ever
>>103295186>>103295206Can't tell if you're being disingenious or simply didn't take another look, but there's literally nothing to complain about their sound, aside from the low treble peak on 80. They are more faithful to 'The Meta' than the current choices we have. Yes we all have preferences, but I sincerely doubt in a blind test people would turn their nose up against this line up, as JM-1 10db, from 200 - 6000hz is similar to the SoundGuys target, which we do have a bit of information that people (32 participants, with 27 of them 'trained') do take a liking to this target.
>>103295482they are just poor and seethingit doesn't matter anyways, you can eq it to whatever you want
>>103295482correct on most fronts, but that treble extension is grim
tfw inbalanced ears + tinnitus
tfw perfect channel matched ears + 1dd congruent hrtf
Redeemed
>>103295908show price, you better redeemed for ~$70
>>103295933bajillion rupees saar
>>103295908absolute meme, enjoy treble ringing up your skull
>>103295908>hiding price/currencysomething smells funny here...
>>103295723>Discussing Treble extension>via 711 clone measurementsREEEEE YOU CAN'T DO THATHonestly though, take this with a grain of salt as I adore iems like Quarks, E500, or Fan 2, I also own the Mach 70 and I think, with the blue silicone tips, they aren't missing anything in the treble department, in fact, I had to tone down a peak @11600hz by 6db. That being said, I don't care to change anyone's mind here, I'm just really autistic about Balanced Armatures. I acknowledge that DDs are stronger at everything you can think of, but still I can't help but find BAs to be a very neat tech.
>>103296045yeah you're right, i usually would ignore treble features, but i'm just a bit concerned by the fact that everything after the 8k resonance is held up by the related second resonance. i don't doubt that they still sound fine, most anons here have no idea what they're talking about.i would still take the magicones over most 1dds just based on isolation, so there's that.
>>103296045you're absolutely correct, a lot of people here have hearing loss and they think KZ 10K rape peaks are "neutral" because it looks good on a graph
Burn in for IEMs is a meme right? Like every other audio device?
Got any recs for a small, non-Android based DAC that doesn't lag when you scroll through a large amount of tracks?
>>103296220depends on how you define it, but burn in for drivers is indeed a meme>>103296221hiby r1? linux-based hibyos
>>103296220It's brain burn in.
>>103295908>s12 pro over the s08 or s12 2024ngmi
>>103296220'Burn in' is part of the manufacturing process for speakers to ensure quality control, which was appropriated into a marketing point by high-end boutique manufacturers. Eventually, it trickled down to headpos and iems, and is now so heavily misunderstood that became audiofoolery
>>103291326>budget10-60$>intended usemedia. casual music listening>frequency responseFlat or detailed bass-centric>past gearHad some old IEM's in the past but generally only used wireless earbuds for a few years since
>>103296488edc pro
>>103296488>bassAoshida E20
>>103296546ogey rrat
>>103296546shut up rat
>>103296629why the fuck did you post this webm
>>103296637it's what kz rats deserve
>>103296488kefine klean is good>>103296629im rather impressed by how many of these you have
>>103296685oh i'm not the usual ratposter that's the only one I have
oooooooooooh the $66 s12 pro is calling my namei REBUKE it in the name of /iemg/!
>>103296587How does it compare to Kefine Klean?
>>103296701Should've got prx
>>103296629Plot twist: the remaining gutter oil after rat fry is used in pos shell and cable production
>>103296727Based, chi-fi applied the zero waste principle so well
>>103296727$1000 rat oil soaked palladium cable.
IEMs have stagnated hard huh>epz q1p/g1>hexa >simgot sm4Seems like nothing has surpassed those in their price ranges
>>103296887>epz q1p/g1it's fine, nothing mind blowing>hexasurprisingly rare stock tuning, meh ergonomics>sm4only value is that it's harman from a reputable brand.
Show me your comfiest IEMs pls
>>103296936
kz bros we keep winning ! SOTA tuning !https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/cca-trio-3dd-iem-review.58772/>inb4 bwhahahaha the THD goes crazy at 130dBSPL!! kz bad ok deafzos, just listen to music at normal volumes , okay?
>>103296985>he considers that a win
>>103296985>SOTA tuning>"I am going to recommend CCA Trio although there are better choices out there">pathetic distortion at 104dbthe bait wasn't even believable
thx i knew a noob would be a noob
>>103297027it's because amir is old and he forgot to measure the one that is more compliant, otherwise he would be gushing even more
>>103296887>epz q1p/g1Like ea500lm but shit>hexa J-mud 1 garbage bald tuning>simgot sm4Jewish drivermixing memes
>>103297056i suspected that as well, but he does mention he tried the different switches and they only increased basshard to tell if this is indeed what happened and kz fucked up on their end, or if this is just amir's dementia kicking in
>>103296936Mh755 + Bluetooth adapter/mini dap
>>103296904>>103297068I don't see you proposing any alternativesinb4 any IEM+EQ
>>103297127ea500lm is still the goat
>>103297138ea500lm is like 3 times more expensive than q1pro and not an alternative to it in its price range but noted
>>103297153edc pro mogs furfag trash
>>103297162it really doesn't
>>103297167wrong
>>103297175give me your EQ
>>103297200no
>>103293116measures like Zero2 + 4 dB more bass
>>103294346>less isolation>less comfythey would do worse
>>103297202pussy
>>103295884iktfb
should i unseal and listen to em?
>>103297138lmao we get it, ea500lm is your only iem but sorry it's literal dogshit and it being on recs is a joke.
>>103297504>5128ok we get it you're trans
>>103295884>>103297414seek supplements.
>>103297535What supplements?
About as good as decade old free pos.
>>103297573fucking lol
>>103297573now compare it with epz trash
bought novas last year and I enjoyed them. What should I get next? preferably ones with anime girls on the box.
Just got some Tin audio t515s from my audio store since everybody says good stuff about Tin, are they alright?
>>103297863damn that's a bit nostalgic...no, they're fucking garbage
>>103297801I just bought cvj yukimi which has a qt girl.
>>103296936Sometimes I am intimidated by my own genius.Tin C5 and some QCY melobuds tips put on the wrong way around, cut to allow it to stretch over it and not interfere with the vent, with a bit of tea bag over the nozzle. Glorious. But definitely don't bother unless you do actually have comfort/fit issues normally.
>>103298031Just what I expect from /iemg/eniuses, what a revelation!
>>103296887What part of "endgame" did you not understand.>>103297056He got a real(revised) unit.
endgame is jm-1 with 4db bass shelf at 80hz with q value of 0.7 and the 8khz resonance eq'd out
>>103298373got an mp3 players with 32gb on the way and it comes with a 64gb sd card. how much songs in flac will i be able to hold and how much space for playlists do i leave
is this a bot? i've seen this exact post like 4 times now
>>103298420Why did you buy that pos...
>>103298373>8khz resonanceretard
>>103298373More like endgay lmao. Real men have the resonance at 6.7k or even lower. The second resonance around 11k and the third resonance around 15k.
>>103298464mom get it for me for hannuka https://www.amazon.ca/96GB-MP3-Player-Bluetooth-5-0/dp/B0BBTBJGCJ
>>103298480Black Friday deal
>>103298468>5-6KGigachud>6-7KChud>7-8KTrans>8-9KGigatroon
>>103298480A fucking leaf.
Man, going through the archives made me realize /iemg/ used to have quality posts and discussions.
>>103298671It's your fault
>>103298373>8khz resonanceyou ok?
Just got this in my amazon recommendationsDo people really?Wtf even.That's like $500 USD
>>103298671IEMs are solved there's nothing to discuss anymore
>>103298784Forgot image
>>103298671It was reddit until I found how to rip graphs from crin's graph tool(squig didn't have an eq tab back then). Since then we discuss real sound quality.
