>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use cases.State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC>CPUWeb browsing: 5600GBudget: 12400FMid Range: 12700KF, 7600XGaming: AMD X3D Workstation: 9950XAVOID: Intel 13/14 series>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Arctic Liquid Freezer IIIDouble towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67>MOTHERBOARDASRock B650M-HDV/M2, B650 LiveMixer, cheap X670>RAMDDR4: 2x16GB 3200CL16. Budget, 2x8GBDDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB>SSD (OS drive)Budget: SN580,Mid range: SN770Premium: Samsung 990 ProFlagship: Sabrent Rocket 5 >GPU1080p: RTX 4070 Super, RX 7700 XT1440p: RTX 4070 Ti Super, RX 7900 GRE, RX 7800 XT4K: RTX 4090, RTX 4080 Super, RX 7900 XTXWorkstation: RTX 4000 Series, AVOID: AMD cards>CASE (from $ to $$$)mATX: Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air MiniATX: Phanteks XT PRO (ULTRA), Montech AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lian Li Lancool 207, Antec C8, Antec Flux ProAVOID: 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, Corsair 6500, Corsair 4000D airflow>PSUBudget: Gold rated 500-600W PSUMid range: ATX 3.0 compliant fully modular gold rated PSU @ 75% max loadHigh end: Seasonic PRIME TXAVOID: GAMEMAXPSU buying guide: https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/ (updated Q3 2024)>MONITOR1080p: MSI G244F E21440p: ASRock PG27QFT2A, Dell G2724D4K: Acer Nitro XV275K, Gigabyte M32U, Dell Alienware AW3225QF>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansMid range: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)High end: Noctua NF-A12x25, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2Previous:>>103300685
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>>103300685i need wifi and i dont free pcie slots and dont want a usb cardscan i just buy a router and connect it to ethernet or is this going to introduce delay? i get like 2ms on wifi with my phone as router i wouldnt want more5ghz
this paste gets progressively shittier with every bake
>>103303124IPS glowies reeee
>stalker 2>any upgrade
>>103302925We know the price for labor and how long it takes techs to build and test a PC. Even if you bill labor at something ridiculous like €150/hr it would still only be a €300 premium on top of the parts. €5000 would mean a premium of about €2000-3000 on top of the parts. This is simply ridiculous.
I'm not convinced the performance gain of an X3D card is worth the up to $200 premium on it compared to other cards? The benchmarks I'm seeing for intensive games in YouTube videos makes it seem like the difference can be like 12 frames at most basically? Do I really want to pay $18 per frame when it's already going past 120 with frame gen ?
>>103303027Both RTX HDR and AutoHDR will never be good options until they're actually able to differentiate the game render from the UI. It's particularly jarring in games that have white UIs.
>>103303124Other than GN, where can I find autisticly thorough component reviews?
>>103303149Your question is confusing. Wired ethernet is not wifi. Yes, of course you can connect a cable from your PC to your router. You probably also have an internet modem/router you can plug a cable into and connect it to your PC. Regardless this is not really the right topic for that, try >>>/g/sqt
>>103303170X3D are chips not cards.
>>103303176Techpowerup.comTomshardware.com (not all reviews but there are some good auhhors)Hwbusters.com, especially for PSU's and fans.Rtings.com for monitors
>>103303185you have like 3 brain cells why do you even bother replying to me if youre 3x dumber
>>103303172the prime benefit is enabling wide color gamut in games that dont have a wide color gamut. it transforms games like half life 2.
>>103303170A Ryzen 7600 or 12700KF can work with a 4080 Super just fine in most AAA games. A X3D chip is worth it if you play CPU intensive games like Factorio, Baldur's Gate 3, Path of Exile, etc.If you tell us your budget we can help you pick a CPU that fits your needs and budget, but you neglected to do that.
>>103303233I don't. Formulate your questions better.
>>103303172>differentiate the game render from the UIWhat? HDR doesn't do that in HDR games, only AutoHDR does that
>>103303248I really don't have a budget I'm a 24 year old with a relatively high paying job who's willing to throw some money away early in my life. But my dad also raised me to be a penny pincher fucker so I don't want to pay a big premium on very marginal gains.
>>103303233By the way, I have a full time job as an accountant. So I know I don't have 3 brain cells. But I don't have anything to prove to you and you're probably an unemployed fat fuck since you post NSFW anime.
>>103303234>enabling wide color gamut in games that dont have a wide color gamutIt doesn't do that unless you boost saturation, it does inverse tone mapping (SDR->HDR conversion) but colors stay mostly within the sRGB range (so bt.709).If you're curious you can install Lilium's HDR analysis with Reshade, it'll read the HDR PQ data from the game in real time.>>103303271>HDR doesn't do that in HDR gamesHDR does exactly that in HDR games. The UI shaders are separated from the render to make it possible for you to control the brightness of both.You would never want a game's UI to be as bright as the game render, usually it's at your paperwhite reference brightness (ideally 100nits or 203nits if you're in a brighter room).
>>103303298>HDR does exactly that in HDR games. The UI shaders are separated from the render to make it possible for you to control the brightness of both.ESL? Read my post again>You would never want a game's UI to be as bright as the game renderExactly, only happens with AutoHDR games, not games made with HDR in mind
Are Seagate Skyhawk drives any good compared to NAS drives? They seem to be rated higher for writes? How do I compare them for reliability?
>>103303310I think you might be the ESL.>only happens with AutoHDR (and RTX HDR*) games Which is exactly what I said. Read my first post again.
>>103303280The gains all depend on resolution and which games you are playing.You can build a fine PC for less than $900 these days. I think this could be appropriate for a first PC. And very cost effective.https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bsCzYd
>>103303160Tell me about ithttps://www.igorslab.de/en/cause-and-reasons-revealed-hotspot-problems-on-many-newer-graphics-cards-due-to-inferior-thermal-paste/
>>103303226Didn't know about hwbusters, thanks anon
>radeon 6900xt>ryzen 9 5900xit works fine, but im noticing on newer games my hardware is starting to struggle. How long should i wait before upgrading to AM5?
>>103303379what newer games
>>103303390stalker 2 mostly
>>103303160What is wrong with it?
>>103303313Mostly just minor optimizations for "surveillance" use i.e. constant writing and infrequent reading. Probably what gets them the higher write speed (if it even holds up in real world use). I have read that they don't check integrity as often, since video artefacts on CCTV are nbd, but there's little hard data on the matter.As far as reliability goes, you, as a consumer, don't have enough combined-use-hours to tease out the differences. Plus you (hopefully) have RAID to obviate the problem.With price equality just buy the one indicated by the manufacturer - IronWolf for NAS, SkyHawk for CCTV. For a small NAS where price per drive is less significant you'd be fine paying a little premium for dedicated NAS drives. If you're building a big one, say 50TB+, and the SkyHawks are noticeably cheaper then go for them.Also don't discount other manufacturers. Your data integrity is solved by proper RAID setup not by 2% differences in AFR.
>>103303396>stalker 2isn't that terribly optimized, even at 1080p, even with high end hardware?
>>103303170You are so right and I'm glad you don't buy X3D. This only increases my chance to get one soon for less, why would I try to convince you?
>>103303396>>103303467unreal engine 5 in general runs like shit on all systems. they tell you to enable upscaling/framegen because they can't optimize for fuck.
>>103303176> autisticly thoroughhttps://www.igorslab.de/en/
>>103303467>>103303500when do i upgrade to am5...
>>103303452Definitely running zfs, more specifically, thinking of running raid z1 with 3 drives and 1 vdev, There are some off brand hdd for like 10 to 15bux for 1 to 2tb and stuff. There are only 2 manufacturers right? Seagate and WD? How bad can they be?
>>103303505if you want more performance while cpu bound then upgrade to a 9800x3d now. otherwise upgrading anything else aint gonna do shit. you're memory bandwidth bottlenecked in AAA games so a 4070 super performs just like a last gen amd card, hence they tell you to turn on upscaling to put less burden on the controller.
what's the difference between Phanteks XT Pro and Phanteks XT Pro Ultra?
>>103303145Qube500, rated 4/5. Cramped to build in with a full atx mobo, full atx psu and twin tower air cooler and whole lot of fans. But, I love it desu. Would buy again.
>>103303226>>103303176I second hwbusters. LTT labs is good too, but a bit out of date.
>>103303520Seagate, WD and Toshiba. And you better go with the last two.https://youtu.be/icNbexYV3M4
I want to upgrade my cooler from a peerless assassin 90 to a 120, are the mounting brackets the same?
>>103303467wasn't there some telemetry fuckery where the game polls all the system specs, dumps current game state, compiles it all in a report and sends it to devs multiple times per second all the time, even halting shader compiling and asset buffering? or was it fake news?
>>103303566Unless it's some weird Threadripper or Xeon, it will fit right in. It should say which sockets are supported on the package. Also, case clearance might be one more factor.
>>103303176I only trust Techpowerup/Guru3D
>wasn't paying attention while reinstalling my mobo to the case>accidentally used an nvme mounting screw>it went right into the stand-off bolt and took it with it>stand off bolt now permanently stuck to the screwI make that guy from The Verge look like a genius I am so bad at this
>>103303608It's just a standoffIt could have been way worse like bent pins
>>103303608if it makes you feel better, I destroyed a screw head when reassembling my GPU. So now this GPU cannot be reopened unless I use powertools.
>>103303608Just remove the standoff and install a new one.
>>103303520As someone with a ZFS mirror setup I'd say that it's kind of overkill for only 3 drives. The extreme integrity provisions are great but I miss the inability to add drives to the array and running it without ECC RAM feels sketchy. There's workarounds, of course, but they feel a bit hacky for a home server. Not the end of the world, mind you, and maybe justified if your server is going to grow into more than a basic NAS.>There are some off brand hdd for like 10 to 15bux for 1 to 2tb and stuff>There are only 2 manufacturers right?There's three main ones: WD, Toshiba, and Seagate. Who knows how many small Chinese outfits are operating with discarded tooling though.Seagate has the worst rep but honestly it's only partially deserved. The critical thing to understand is that your reliability is 99% down to proper redundancy and 1% from picking the "right" manufacturer.
>>103303539I have no idea. Both come with only a shitty 120mm rear fan. Wtf!None of them support installing a 420 rad, not even in front.
>>103303539>>103303699Wait! The ultra features "Integrated D-RGB lighting".
>>103303537>just get a 9800x3d bro>just go to the ryzen tree and get one >just head over to bestbuy and get one off the shelf its sold out everywhere.
>>103303679I already put the board back together i tried to remove the standoff, its stuck on the screw too hardTbf i definitely could have tried harder but it is not worth risking further damage to the board. Id rather just leave it especially since the overly long screw is doing the standoff's job anyways.
>>103303379wait for AM6
>>103303124Not a week old. And my Dell G2724D has a dead pixel. FML
>>103303379Wtf. I'm running a 3770k with a 1070ti and shits still running fine (@1080p) for me.
Formatting my PC tomorrow, currently on win10should I stay or go to win11?>inb4 gentoo
>>103303738amazon lets you backorder I think.my microcenter restocks them this week.
>>103303758>2028>>103303763>intel
>>103303727wew. uselessgoing with cheaper Pro Period then
>>103303773>2028Yes, but maybe 2027t. upgraded from AM2 (since 2007) to AM4 in 2017, then to X3D in 2022
>>103303764windows 11 iot enterprise ltsc 24h2 26100.2454
>>103303817english plz
>>103303360My current pc already has a 3070.
>>103303764>>103303822install gentoo
>>103303822latest version of windows>>103291056
>>103303176I'm deep in the rabbit hole of hwbuster's case fan reviews. They're good.
>>103303833but i like win10 UI more than win 11 UI
>>103303849tell us of your findings
>>103303862Read before you post, nigger.>>>/g/fwt/ is the right thread.
>>103303869ok iternet hero cry more
>>103303539Faster USB-C port, comes with four 140mm RGB fans (instead of one 120mm non-RGB), RGB header, drive cages can fit 3 more 2.5'' drives.
>>103303875reddit
>>103303862do you also like having worse latency and broken shit
>>103303124fuck the liquid freezer III and its retarded mounting solution.I broke my motherboard trying to get that fucking thing to screw in properly
>tfw going to build myself a new pc for the first time in 9 yearsgood bye ddr3, hello ddr5
How bad are the remaining bottom-of-the-barrel 9800x3d + AIO bundles on jewegg? There's some corsair icue ones and an msi mag coreliquid. I do actually need some cooler, and I'm not that picky about aesthetics, so as long as it works, it feels worth getting the CPU at MSRP. On the other hand they are the last bundles still in stock, so I'm wary.
>>103303379no upgrades for the next 5 years.
any good vertical monitors?as in ones that were made to be viewed vertically not just turning it sideways
>>103303379Nigga just get a used 5800x3d
>>103303939Ddr5 sucksDdr4 had more soul
>>103303699>I have no idea. Both come with only a shitty 120mm rear fan. Wtf!The Ultra version comes with 4 fans.>None of them support installing a 420 rad, not even in front.420mm is overkill for autists. 99% of AIO customers buy a 240, 280 or 360mm.Also, someone buying a 420mm radiator would not shop in this price class anyway.If you want a case with support for a 420mm radiator, the Antec Flux Pro in the OP offers this. Other good candidates are the Fractal Torrent and the Lian Li Lancool III.
>>103303759You can legally return most items within a week and get your money back in most jurisdictions.
>>103303947You should value the cooler at $30-40. Or $0 if you already have a suitable cooler. Personally, I would not buy that shit if it costs over $499.
>>103303947Fuck do I know retard, link the bundles. What bundles?!
>>103303124how big is the difference between oled and mini led display ?OLED costs a lot more but is the price gap worth it?
>>103304088Yes. Mini LED is more of a slight upgrade over LCD/LED (IPS).OLED is an entirely different tier. The next step up from the old high tier plasma screens like the Pioneer Kuro and the high end Panasonics.If you buy an OLED TV or monitor, it will last you 10-20 years.
>>103304039But I already got rid of the box that came with it. I hate this shit.
>>103303863I'm searching for 140mm fans to replace my current 120mm fans, since my case can accommodate them.Been reading hwbuster case fan articles for days now and I've come down to a few choices1. Arctic P14 Max for pure performance in airflow and static pressure in 40 dBA2. Lian Li Uni Fan 140mm non-LCD for good airflow but low static pressure in 30 dBA3. Noctua NF-A14x25 G2 140mm for balanced airflow and static pressure 30 dBA>https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-case-heatsink-radiator-fan-picks-hardware-busters/I put in the noise level of these fans because I have a UPS in my room with a fan that spins all the time with a 50 dBA level. It's been here for 4 years now. Static pressure stats @ 40 dBAArctic P14 Max: 3.99Static pressure stats @ 30 dBAArctic P14 Max: 2.13Noctua NF-A14x25 G2: 2.1Lian Li Uni TL 140: 1.7I can just ramp up the P14 Max for absolute best performance, but that would just add more noise in my room, so I'll probably make it spin between 70 to 80% in PWMAs for Lian Li, I'm considering the TL 140 because of RGB that will surely pop in my O11 EVO XL case.The LCD version has higher static pressure than the non-LCD. The LCD one is expensive. Noctua's also within my consideration, but like the Lian Li, it's also expensive. But since it's an optimized fan for noise-normalized performance and airflow, it's still a good contender. It's just the price is so high. All things considered, if I'm just aiming for pure performance and no fuss and frills, I would get the P14 Max. Pic related. Best airflow in 140mm fans at max RPM
Is this a decent monitor?
>>103304073https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductCombos?Item=19-113-877&SubCategory=343&fromcs=0&bcmTag=0&SortField=0&PageSize=10&Page=1>>103304053The MSRP for these AIO water coolers they're bundling is ~$100, so it doesn't _seem_ like the bundles are jewing on price at least.
>>103304088mini led is the inbetween.
>>103303124hello I'm here from the last thread.about to purchase an AMD Ryzen 7 5700x: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09VCHQHZ6?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1 and a geforce rtx 3050: https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-GeForce-WINDFORCE-Graphics-GV-N3050WF2OC-6GD/dp/B0D4XZXLL7?crid=1NAJK1H9E98VW&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.llPMruQqizxb4nYzUPo1A8CVmjb4vXW9OTCUidpjCqGAraor4fBwwCuUbdb15vRKhuSuUA1iZhi2O8E8Q4zjtc7njuA-8u8R77kyFNog9z90dBOvVw-lUgCkVZh-IoyHnA0KjFhorJTvuL56Dto1QwP_Z55eufgZliVaRSTJmNTqmcXfjmu2tzJCiS4KPoJ-K3nu_QSiyUAVQ4Y422cmGg.-dS5tMMAO2nWXuGicFGRC5aAYfQpPfd4wvgfcKJALzY&dib_tag=se&keywords=gpu&qid=1732470728&sprefix=gpu%2Caps%2C170&sr=8-5 mostly because they're both currently on sale and within my budget. am I buying the wrong things. is this retarded? lmk pls
>>103304135Check previous thread and also OP sticky. Cheaper and better option exists.
>>103304088I don't know honestly, because I'm not a cheap-ass. Get OLED if you have the money.t. absolutely not an OLED shill
>>103304144you should just get a 5600 and a 6600XT or 6650
>>103304150>t. absolutely not an OLED shillNo such thing, the only argument in this field is "if you have money, get OLED", period (outside of pure office work). Even if you use a LCD, etc, you'd still understand that.
>>103304144>>103304154yeah this, if your budget is that low you're overspeccing on the CPU and you're better off getting an AMD GPU, AMD GPUs generally have more price for performance on the low end but lose to NVIDIA on the top end.
what is the best mobo+processor+ram combo on Black Friday right now that I can get to upgrade this ancient fucking system? The Graphics card isn't much better. Any integrated graphics from the last couple gens would run circles around it.
>>103304142joke's on you i'm viewing this image on an LED your camera artifacts mean nothing to me shill
>>103304208>Provide specific use cases.>State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
>>103304146The monitors in the OP are not discounted and thus more expensive.
>>103304214those arent camera artifacts. its showing how backlights work. led has larger backlights so the haloing is worse. oled has no backlight so theres no haloing.
This video is leading me to believe there's basically no advantage of QD OLED against modern WOLED. https://youtu.be/fkGtsatPGT4Anyone object? >No graininess on latest WOLED, this is basically a boogeyman now>QD OLED has green and magenta highlights very close up due to the pixels>WOLED strongly outperforms QD in moderate ambient light due to blacks raising on a glossy screen>Only a slight loss in color saturation on WOLED, which is mainly just noticeable with contrast set to higher than realistic color
>>103304088There's a considerable gap. When I was searching for an OLED TV two years ago, I'd go around the mall looking at the mini-LED and OLED TV's they have on display. The blacks on OLED are truly deep inky blacks. Contrast ratio really is infinite. There's no halo effect on stuff like this pic >>103304142
Ive got a 1080ti and ive been eyeing a new card because the latest slop no longer runs well enough to be enjoyableIf I want a new card thatll last me at least 8 years again should I just go for a 4090? I dont think the top end of the 5000 series will physically fit in my case and I dont want to replace it
>>103304131>I put in the noise level of these fans because I have a UPS in my room with a fan that spins all the time with a 50 dBA level. It's been here for 4 years now.Isn't that ridiculously loud? Perhaps it is a better solution to move the UPS or replace it with a more quiet unit rather than spending money on unnecessary fans, lol.
>>103304114>If you buy an OLED TV or monitor, it will last you 10-20 years.What about burn in tho?
>>103304244Glossy WOLED in a dim room > everything else
>>103304135You've been given an answer in the previous thread.
>>103304114>>103304142>>103304150>>103304163whats a good affordable oled? aw2725df?
>>103304316It's going to have burn-in in 6 months but will last 10-20 years.
>>103304136>The MSRP for these AIO water coolers they're bundling is ~$100, so it doesn't _seem_ like the bundles are jewing on price at least.That's nice and all but these AIO's are only a liability. They don't offer increased functionality over a $40 thermalright cooler and are more likely to break, which would mean you need to replace the unit which is only added wasted money and time. I guess if you NEED the CPU now for PoE2 or something yeah buy a bundle. Personally I am waiting.
I'm planning to get a new pc in the future as the core of my is basically 13 years old now, even if some parts were upgraded.Is there anything that would be stupid to miss during amazon black week that I should get now rather than later?I haven't yet started looking into the best builds and my budget will be 2k € max
How often do LG C-series TVs go on sale? I want a C4 for a monitor but I think I'd rather miss the current Black Friday sale and save up for the 5090, then buy the C4 in a future sale.
>>103304334Sure, also check OP. Some people also recommend the LG TVs for bigger size.
>>103304144What's your budget? Excluding peripherals
>>103304334for $100 less you can get a 48 inch lg b4 oled from best buy.
>>103304356my temps under load are ~60C with pbo and my fans are capped at 300 rpm360 aio
>>103303166>Stalker 2 and monster hunter wilds have effectively made 4090 a 6k50fps cardKEEEEK
>>103304223>The monitors in the OP are not discountedWrong.>thus more expensive.Also incorrect.
>>103304413Who asked
>>103303603Yeah I already have a 90 peerless assassin isntalled, I want to switch the tower out, I can keep the brackets, right?
>>103304373>Is there anything that would be stupid to miss during amazon black week that I should get now rather than later?Monitors and SSD's are decently priced right now. With a €2k budget you can try to snag a cheap 7900XTX or 4080 Super.
>>103304440just correcting anon on their misinforming post
>>103303539It seems worse than my g500a, nigga get a g500a
>>103304356far superior noise/performance ratio is increased functionality if you ask mewe can't all run leafblowers that aren't bearable under load without active noise cancelling headphones
>>1033043776 times per year (LG OLED evo C4 55" Bruin)
>>103304315Yeah, it's definitely loud. It used to be uncomfortable, but I've grown used to it now since I've been using it for 4 years. But I am considering getting a new UPS that's silent or with a PWM feature, and have my current one be used for my future home server. I'll place it in a different part of my house. I only put the sound level of the three fans as reference. I've grown accustomed to a 50 dBA fan now, I suppose.
>>103304457??? CPU's are designed to run higher than 60C anon.
>>103304423monster hunter wilds excuse is its a beta and it doesnt have a game ready driver. stalker 2 has no excuse though it has a driver + microsoft promoting it and it still cant deliver.
>>103303608Does your case not have a spare standoff?
>>103304464Perhaps with a 14900K, but my 7800X3D doesn't throttle with the air cooler fans on medium speed.By all means, get a radiator if you're buying those CPU's.
>>103304479why would you want it to run hotter if the fans are already at their minimum speed and the cpu performance is at it's peak? any extra heat is going to affect longevity, no brainer when a good aio and good heatsink cost pretty much the sameremember intel and amd use voltages out of the box that degrade cpus quickly too, they only have to last till warranty is over
>>103304246>infinite contrast ratioAbsute buzzwords Mindless shill spotted
>>103304515>why would you want it to run hotter if the fans are already at their minimum speed and the cpu performance is at it's peak?Cheaper and more reliable.>any extra heat is going to affect longevity, no brainer when a good aio and good heatsink cost pretty much the sameNot within the timespan you use these CPU's (10-15 years).
PCIe 5.0 NVME, does that worth the hassle? Reviewers say these things work too hot
>>103304543each pixel is a individual dimming zone. a lg oled tv can have 8.3 million of them. the amount of possible combinations it can produce is pretty much infinite.
>>103304495the standoff is on one side of the mobo and the screw head is on the other and the standoff is stuck there. Could not twist it off after trying.
>>103304460it's almost twice as expensive
>>103304131Lian li uni's are good despite being rgb wtf?
>>103304543I'm using an OLED monitor with two IPS monitors on both sides. I can tell the difference between mini-LED and OLED.
>>1033043496 months? do most not have a 3 year warranty for burn in?
>>103304494The beta didn't have denuvo + the russian spyware + crapcoms new encrypted server save anti cheat
>>103304382>>103304391aren't those 4k oleds too much for people who don't play at 4k? I only have 7800 xt and that struggles at 1440p with cyberpunk.I'm leaning towards the aw2725df at 1440p but i want to know if a better alternative exists. Burn in warranty is also important for me
>>103304569Isn't g500a older? Maybe try to find a store trying to get rid of clearance
>>103303248>A X3D chip is worth it if you play CPU intensive games like Factorio, Baldur's Gate 3, Path of Exile, etc.These run on any old piece of junk just fine lol.
>>103304627you would just turn on fsr/xess quality or performance mode. at 4k its 1440p for quality, 1080p for performance.lg has a 5 year burn in warranty.
>>103304136> No Actic Freezer 3no deal
>>103304573Keep in mind that the LCD and non-LCD have some differences. https://hwbusters.com/cooling/lian-li-uni-fan-tl-140-review/>You should expect that the only difference between the UNI Fan TL 140 LCD and its plain version would be the lack of a small LCD screen, but this doesn’t stand.>Lian Li boosted the speed on the non-LCD fan, probably because it had room for a stronger motor with higher power consumption, from the moment the screen’s power consumption wasn’t in the equation.>This brought higher airflow, but static pressure took a hit due to the fan blade design, so it is lower than the LCD model’s.
>>103304654I don't feel the AMD upscaling is good enough to make it look goodhow much is that LG 4k oled in the US? It's 1000CAD here. 5 year warranty for burn in specifically?
>>103304652Path of Exile does not run well on old CPU's. Especially not at 60+ fps lol. The game is notorious for stuttering and frame drops.For Factorio, the game will start slowing down based on the size of your factory. You can postpone this with a better CPU. Ergo, better CPU = bigger base.
every component is here, even got sick discounts on all my storage (netac nv7000-t & 990pro both 2tb for 170€) and RAM (70€ for A-die CL30), didn't even have to pay more than msrp for the 9800x3Dall is good...BUT WHEN THE FUCK ARE THE MOBOS COMING BACK IN STOCK SO I CAN BUILD REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I might have made a mistake. I bought a motherboard with a single PCIe 5.0 x 16 slot. Does this mean I won't be able to take advantage of a Sabrent Rocket 5 SSD since the only PCIe slot on the motherboard will be taken up by my GPU?
>>103304704I prefer Xess and you can update it from Intels github for any game that supports it.LG B4 48" is $600 at Best Buy right now. TVs are 5 year warranty, monitors are 2 years.
https://www.amazon.com/Fikwot-FN203-256GB-M-2-SATA/dp/B0C3ZL867L/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8&th=1This brand named fikwot has the cheapest 256gb ssd I’ve found on Amazon with a good amount of reviews but im not sure if its worth trusting “off brand” companies for ssds instead of the usual big names. Should I buy it anyway? Or if not, which reliable brand sells the cheapest and reliable ssds? In the US for reference
>>103304088My only experience with OLED is my Asus work laptop that has one. It's 15'' and not supposed to be that great of a panel but I fucking love it. It just looks so clean.Now I want one for my desktop so I'm in the same position as you... I already compromised once before with VA panels before OLEDS were even in the market and I'm not doing it again.
>>103304627OLED doesn't just benefit gaming at 4K. It can also be nice to have in 1440p gaming and media consumption.
>>103304627>aren't those 4k oleds too muchDon't get a 4k OLED if you aren't on a 4090. 4k DLSS Performance doesn't look that much better than 1440p DLSS Quality.>I'm leaning towards the aw2725df at 1440p but i want to know if a better alternative existsAll 1440p 360hz and 240hz use the same QD-OLED panels. OLED doesn't use overdrive or other vendor-specific settings, so you can buy the cheapest one and it'll be fineAW2725DF has the best factory calibration and Dell honors warranty like no others. Warranty time doesn't equal quality service, LG and ASUS are particularly dodgy at that.Don't overthink it and get yourself the Alienware, you won't regret it.
>>103304677>Nawk tuah is being outdone by lian li that can do rgb and has easier/cleaner cable managementBruh
>>103304779I know but the question is whether if I should get a 4k or 1440p OLED display if I Have a mid range GPU (7800 xt). Lets assume the price isn't that different. Would you still go with 1440p display since that scaling would be smoother?
>>103304817both would be fine since you're running upscaling anyways. native 1440p = fsr quality at 4k.
>>103304747I got an Asrock Nova that is waiting for a CPU.
>>103304817If the price isn't that different, go with the 4K monitor if future-proofing is in your mind (ie. upgrading your graphics card). You might also want to consider the size of the monitor. I'm using a 42-inch 4K OLED monitor and I had to order a custom desk to accommodate its size.There's lots of 27 and 32-inch monitors to choose from.
>>103304901I mean "if you plan on upgrading your graphics card sometime in the future" but yeah.Go with 4K in that situation. Otherwise, stick to 1440p OLED.
should i be worried for my boot drive?
>>103304750There are PCIe slots for expansion cards like GPU and then there are PCIe slots for NVMe SSD. These are different slots that can only be populated by either cards or SSDs but they may compete for internal connections called lanes possibly resultiung in lower performance or even no usability at all. You need to consult your motherboards manual.
>>103304901nah, I'm likely not upgrading GPU
Is this the best choice right now for 32-34' 4K OLED?
>>103304856let's build our PC together then
>>103304974Given the price, probably.
Hi /pcbg/, I’m building my first pc for Christmas and am looking for 2 SSDs, one 256gb for my local drive and one 1TB for the drive that will be designated for my program files (such as game, applications, etc). I’d want to choose a brand that is well known and trustworthy, and is also more affordable. I’ve heard that crucial is a good choice, but it seems like their lowest size is 500gb only. So any recs for brands that have both 256gb and 1TB available is appreciated Country: US Budget: no more than $70 for the 1TB SSD (after looking at Amazon it seems like most 1TB SSDs are around $60 right now)Thanks
>>103304814I've watched this review as well of the Noctua G2 fans. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5LSGuSRg9ASkip to 20:00.The title basically sums it up. It's optimized for all types of situations. Case fans, radiators. It'll do the job.However, it's not a fan that can brute force its way up to the charts.Since I'm looking for pure performance, I'll go with Arctic. I do like Noctua's customer support, though. One of my NH-D15 fans developed a grinding sound. Noctua told me they'll send me a replacement for free, but I have to render the defective fan unusable. So I went and smashed it with a hammer, recorded it and sent it to Noctua, and then they gave me my free replacement fan. They even gave me free clips for my NH-D15 when I asked for additional ones because I wanted to attach a third fan to it.
started buying stuffasrock b650m hdv/m.2 + 2tb m2+ about to get a ryzen 9600xplaning on using my rtx 1060 6gb until amd rx 8600 comes out next yearwill the pcie 4x16 slot fuck me over if the rx8600 is a pcie5x8 card?what if they skimp on vram?battlemage is confirmed gen5 so i assume rdna4 will be toodoesnt seem to be any cheap pcie 5 motherboards yet until b850 drops next yeari need no special IO
>>103304974If you have no shame and want to cheap out, yes.
>>103305023>I’m building my first pc for ChristmasYou have to be 18 years or older to visit our adult forums you know?
>>103305057On the off chance you're not shitposting, what would you recommend? Higher Price =/= Better, a lot of people seem to think this is one of the best 4K monitors right now, which is why I asked.
If I can't get a 9800x3d until between late dec to februray, might as well just cancel my build until the next gen of nvidia GPUs and the new x3d chips in january free up the supply and drop the price, ye? Was gonna pair it with a 4070ti super and everything else is readily available
>>103304923from this limited set of data, it looks good
>>103304646ehhh...i'll just go with that one. i've already exceeded the given budget
>>103305076Just set up in-stock notifications with Newegg
>Asus Prime AP201Holy shit, this is ugly as hell. Is there another budget case that’s prettier but just as good as that Asus one recommended in the OP?
>>103304923>240gb sataBrother an nvme is like 50 bucks now
>>103305023> one 256gb for my local drive and one 1TBMake it 1TB for OS + User Profile and 2TB or even 4TB for games and apps. There are games nowadays that use up 150GB of disk space. Your 1TB are ridiculous.
>>103305140The thing is is that I was never really a big gamer and only plan on downloading and using the same few programs and games I’ve been using my whole life. I won’t really do anything on my local drive and I think 1tb is enough for me
>>103305140this is exactly why I bought 2 4tb nvmeeverything is ballooning in size
>>103305032Buy an ad.
Just built a new rig with an apparently faulty PSU. It clicked and let out a bit of smoke on the first boot, now nothing happens when I try. What are the chances it damaged something else, or that I just need a different PSU?
>>103305169smoke coming from any electronic component is never good and its safe to assume wherever its coming from is dead.
>>103305169Well I know the PSU is dead, Im asking what the chances are it damaged the GPU/MOBO/CPU when it shorted?
>>103305169i killed two GPUs with a faulty PSUbut it took a while before they started acting weird, i assume if it just shut off instantly there should hopefully be no meaningful degradation/damage
>>103305260Unlikely. Only way to know for sure is to exchange the PSU, try to post again with a new one and see what happens.
>>103305153Okay, your use case is rather unusual among us gaymers. We torrent dozens if not hundreds of games and don't want to deinstall games that we like just to make space for installing new ones. I currently got ~8TB of torrents (on HDD) and 3-4TB of installed games (on SSD). For the purpose of modding I often make complete copies of installed games leading to even more disk usage.
is it still worth it to buy into am4 if you don't want or need the bleeding edge of performance, or just wait™ for prices to drop further?
>bios says I need to disable CSM after enabling Rebar>when I disable it, it doesn't boot into windows and goes back to biosWhat do? Is the rebar even worth fiddling with?
>>103305260you wont know until you actually turn it on with a new psu.
>>103305289Your Windows partition is set up as legacy BIOS instead of UEFI. Its either a old install or you fucked up installing Windows.
Holy fucking shit the Nova is now in stock on Amazon.>that delivery timePain.
>>103305289your windows is installed in MBR modeyou need to convert it to GPT/UEFIhttps://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000024558/memory-and-storage/intel-optane-memory.htmlunless you're on intel arc it's not fiddling with your windows install
>>103305284Whatever you do, don't buy in December. Prices always go down after New Year.
>>103305280Well honestly I’m just not a big pc gamer period, I’ve never bought a triple A game and probably never will
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>>103305111Store in my region (digitec) only lets you pre-order than promises delivery at some point in that timespan. They're MSRP though vs. the online scalpers are tryna sell them for like $800-900 instead of 500
>connect phone to PC to transfer a big file>seconds after I plug it in PC shut down>won't start back up at all, not even the fans>had to clear CMOSWhat the fuck was that? Both cable and USB port I used are fine now. Is my motherboard dying?
>>103305318and when they finally dispatch it, the mobo box is open instead of sealed.
>>103305315It's pre-covid win10. Bought second-hand so idk the details.>>103305321What are the potential gainz? Is this another muh 5% uplift?
>>103305318> usually
Can anyone please recommend me a budget motherboard for this build:>AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D>Asus DUAL Radeon RX 6600>Corsair Vengeance RGB RS 16 GB>Western Digital Blue SN580 1 TB>ADATA XPG KYBER 850 W 80+ GoldThe ones in the OP apparently aren't compatible...
>>103305358its difficult to answer because it varies on the game and your setup. rebar/sam do the same thing on paper but in reality the gains are different depending on your cpu+gpu.
>>103305378Any B550
>>103305076that's the same thing I'm doing I'm waiting until feb/mar for the 5080/5070Ti with 9800x3d.
>>103305392Would this one be fine:>Gigabyte B550M KI'm just scared of buying something wrong...
>>103305358yeah maybeor the game doesn't like it and runs worse (BO6 lol)
>>103305378You might have to find one with a CPU-less BIOS flash option available because the 5700X3D is a relatively new chip.The boards below supposedly have the compatible BIOS installed.https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YhtLrH/gigabyte-b550m-aorus-elite-ax-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b550m-aorus-elite-axhttps://pcpartpicker.com/product/wjXV3C/gigabyte-b550-ud-ac-atx-am4-motherboard-b550-ud-acIf you live in a different country, go to PCPartPicker select "Builder", add the 5700X3D CPU in the build, and then search for motherboards within that builder page.It will let you know which boards have compatible BIOS installed at the factory.
hello anons, my autist father who has been a console enjoyer for most his life has asked if I could build a pc for him, he would like to play skyrim with mods, he said he would spend around £1500 - £2000 on it. feel free to leave some suggestions! the last time I built a pc was 2 years ago and I have not followed news recently, so I am not sure what is good and shit. air cooling preferred as I do not want to maintain water cooling for him.
>>103304244Why does it feel like this board turned on quantum dots overnight?
>>103305378If you're comfortable with using the motherboard's CPU & memory-less BIOS flashback (update) feature, get a B550 TUF, Tomahawk, or Aorus Elite AX.You need a USB storage drive in FAT32 format to use this BIOS update feature.https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MfZ9TW/msi-mag-b550-tomahawk-max-wifi-atx-am4-motherboard-mag-b550-tomahawk-max-wifihttps://pcpartpicker.com/product/Vb3mP6/gigabyte-b550-aorus-elite-ax-v2-atx-am4-motherboard-b550aorus-elite-axv2https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pLNxFT/asus-tuf-gaming-b550-plus-wifi-ii-atx-am4-motherboard-tuf-gaming-b550-plus-wifi-ii
>>103305461Thanks, that first one is available in my country. Do you think the Asus Prime AP201 case is good for this build?
>>103305541Yeah, just don't buy a big CPU cooler.
is there a mirror case like this or is this all DIY?If this is DIY do you think it complicated to build something like this?
>>103305478I am OP, here is what I have done so far, let me know if it is shit, ty: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/4nTYTM
>Dude just buy the $350 Nova, it's da best!Why exactly do you need this instead of the almost $100 cheaper Steel Legend? Are you really going to use 5 M.2 slots and do you really need 5gb lan and a 20+2+1 power phase design for a fucking AMD chip (lets not pretend it isn't the lower powered x3ds for most people here)?
>>103305562I was going to get the Thermalright Frozen Edge which is recommended in the OP, is it not good?
How do I decouple the fan and mobo colors in OpenRGB? Even if I pick the fan alone, it changes colors and modes for both. I am using the proprietary ASUS connector if that helps.
>>1033056105700X3D doesn't need an AIO, a ThermalRight Phantom Spirit EVO would be more than sufficient.Get the AIO if you want it for cosmetic reasons.
>>103305567looks custom built. how good are you at welding?
>>103305609Don't buy it if you don't need it lol
If I use too much thermal paste, will my CPU explode?
>>103305643>how good are you at welding?I can solder. so not good.I was thinking I just need an all glass case then get a bunch of mirrors. 1. get all glass case2. get a bunch of mirrors3. somehow cut them the same size as the glass panels.4. replace them with the glass panels.5. ???6. done
>>103305609>almost $100 cheaper Steel Legend?because I'm not a poorfag, why would I bother saving $100 after buying a $600 CPU to pair with my $1k+ GPU?>Are you really going to use 5 M.2 slots5 maybe not, but 3x at max speed for sure. would also like to keep the pcie slot without sharing it because>do you really need 5gb lanI currently do have 5gb internetand will be upgraded in a few months to 10gb fiber, so I'd like to be able to add a 10g SFP pcie card>20+2+1 power phase design for a fucking AMD chipthis I agree but that's how it is. I wish they'd do a Nova Lite with the same phase config as the Steel Legend but with some better I/O and push the prices down a bitonly mobo that has super good I/O without the overclocking nerd features is the Pro Art Creator from ASUS and that shit is $600
>>103305686always better to have too much than too little
>>103305716honestly sounds like too much work for a case that just going to choke your components worse than a sarcophagus.
>>103305567>>103305716Get mirror tape or whatever it's called, and plaster it all over the inside of your fiberglass panels. It's reflective when the inside is darker than the outside, but transparent when there's enough light on the inside. It's cheap, easy, and shouldn't affect the thermals.
>>103304434They're not discounted in EU land.
I got recommended this a few weeks agohttps://pcpartpicker.com/list/83g2QPbut saw that this alienware with a 4090 was only a bit more expensive on sale. Is alienware still shit or was that a meme? Should I just get this discounted one, or wait for the parts list to be cheaper during black friday and build it myself, since performance wise, I probably don't need the better stats the alienware provides unless I want to play star citizen, which desu, is something I want to do, but could probably get by with something else and its still not even really playable right now.https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/desktop-computers/alienware-aurora-r16-gaming-desktop/spd/alienware-aurora-r16-desktop/useahbtsr16ihbzg
>>103305587You can save a good bit of money by going for Arctic instead of Noctua and bequiet. Same performance league for way better prices. Also 64GB of RAM is overkill for Skyrim. Even with a crapload of mods you won't ever exceed 20ish GB. Also 4 sticks are not optimal for stability. Just get a 2x16 kit. Also I recommend the Lian Li Lancool 207, it's a bit more expensive than the Corsair but has an excellent airflow setup in that you can install two 140mm fans directly beneath the GPU. Tremendous perk for silence and longevity.
>>103305785sounds like a plan I guess.
>>103304220OkayBudget: $250-300 Country: USA what is the best mobo+processor+ram combo on Black Friday right now that I can get to upgrade this ancient fucking system? >>103304208
>>103305893You don't sound enthused
>>103305917Might be combo deals on 7600 systems for ~$300. If not, 12600KF+B660+32GB DDR4.
>>103305917> Budget: $250-300AM4 mobo + 5700x3d + 16GB DDR4 but I haven't seen any bundles like this.
>>103305926I'm not 100% convinced that this is going to work or if I'm competent enough to do this.
just slapped ptm7950 on my gpu and i love how the thing never idles below 45c with the fans off.my only tip is definitely chuck this stuff in the freezer until you're ready to use. fuck the fridge as it was already soft melting by the time i was getting the plastic off.
is a 4090 enough to run Shadow Man 1?
>>103306018you need for a 4090 for shadowman 1 and a 5090 for the sequel shadowman generationshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARfmSlj66jE
>>103305997Look up 'one way mirror window film' and other names to that effectIf you can type in complete sentences, you're competent enough to stick some film on some glass
>>1033031247900 xtx for $765 or a 4070 ti super for $740?Budget is $800 country is US. Just want a fallback card in case the new gpus offer poor value. DLAA/DLSS/Better RT performance on the 4070 ti super is already tempting me but I know the 7900 xtx is a tier above it at the end of the day.
Budget: ~$1600, Country: US, Usage: GamingConsidering this build from Logical Increments. Any thoughts? I don't need an HDD.
>>10330610179xtx can be oc to 4080s to 4090 d level or beyond if u get the 3 x power connectors
>>103306123The card only has 2. It's the hellhound.
Day 15 of waiting for am5 11.11 ali sale stuff
just upgraded my PC. 2600x->5700x3D and 1080 -> 4070tiS. So far I've downloaded GPU drivers and ran some benchmarks and everything seems fine, but was there something else I was supposed to do post-upgrade?
Should I get one?
>>103306101are you really going to turn DLSS when you have a high tier gpu
>>103305952>>103305977Dang, thanks. I'm fine with being behind a gen or two if any good bundles exist for this right now.
What you do when this happens?I don't really know anything about TPM. I'm going to be sticking with Win10. Should I disable TPM in bios or something? Or just stop wondering about it?
Found some nice deals on newegg. Should I just order now or wait for black friday/ cybermonday or just order now and reorder if there are much better deals and return the shit?
>>103306139upgrade your chipset drivers
Just built my new PC, everything is new except for the GPU which is an old RX 480 since I'm waiting for the 5090. My question is, after I upgrade the GPU, if I uninstall AMD's software will the AMD CPU stop working?
>>103306202did those yesterday just incase, anything else?
>>103306192press Y. it does this each time you insert a new cpu or reset your cmos.
>>103306192>I don't really know anything about TPM.if you don't know then press y, you probably don't have anything encryptedI just had this pop up when upgrading >>103306139 and I hit y, everything was fine since I never encrypted any drives
Is the MSI G274F a good monitor?
>>103306223thats pretty much it then
>>103306232https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-50-blackwell-gpus-utilize-samsung-gddr7-memory-chips/Gonna be interesting once amd finally catches up and uses this too with udna or will it be more infinity cache
Gotta fight the sag somehow
>>103306232>if you don't know then press y, you probably don't have anything encryptedDoesn't stock Windows 11 encrypts new installs by default if you don't use rufus or other modified installer?
>>103306267i love saggy boobaa tho but my gpu doesnt>pick up Valkyrie case>screen goes blackAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>103306271do they now? I'm not retarded enough to "upgrade" to 11
>>103306139> So far I've downloaded GPU drivershttps://www.techpowerup.com/download/techpowerup-nvcleanstall/
>>103306278They do but only if you use ms account during install, because it automatically uploads recovery key to onedrive.Even after install it is impossible to enable bitlocker without either uploading recovery key to onedrive, saving it to external storage or printing it.You can print to pdf or xps virtual printer and save file to local drive if you really insist on having no recovery key backed up.
>>103306271if you have tpm+encryption flag enabled in your bios then windows 24h2 will auto encrypt your drives with bitlocker. to prevent this you disable in your bios or use rufus.
>>103303149>>103303233NTA but holy shit actual dunning kreuger retard kill yourself all that gooning rotted your brainTheres no such thing as 5ghz when youre on ethernet thats used to measure a wifi signal you retard fuck. Ethernet will always have less delay than wifi since its a direct connection. You are so stupid. You are gay and bald and retarded.
>>103303149>>103306341Also from the sound of it you are using your phone as a hotspot instead of paying for internet because you are poor and brown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sE7CJFC1ClQwhy are quietfags so annoying
>>103301860YesThe 5600 has the same single core performance as the 5600X/5700X but is usually cheaper if you're on a budget. The 5700X3D is not the same chip as the 5700X.The 3050 is a trap, the 6gb card is 60% slower than the RX6600 which is usually only $20 more expensive than the $170 3050 6GB.The 3050 8gb is 20% slower than the RX6600 and $200, the RX6650XT is $230 and 4060 tier.
>>103306358imagine paying $2000 for a machine that whines next to your ear because they cheaped out on some chink grade coils.
>>103303258>router to router to ethernet does not go through 5ghzkill yourself >>>/v/>>103306341>the post is nonsensical>i better post how retarded everyone is and how smart i am instead of reading it again
>>103303124Looking to upgrade from ryzen 5 3600, MSI 1070, handing it down to a family member probably or keeping it as a spare. Budget/country: $1,600/USAI game, but nothing graphic intensive, however it is nice to have the ability to play games on higher than mid/low settings, I play PoE and Gachashit like Genshin Impact, some deadlock, indie games, no AAA titles b/c it would look shit on my current PC. I like a quiet PC b/c I'm not a fan of noisy fans. I don't do much production or CPU intensive things, but I like having that capability in case something interests me. Build I'm piecing together: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core ProcessorCPU Cooler Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU CoolerMotherboard ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 Micro ATX AM5 MotherboardMemory TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 MemoryStorage Western Digital Black SN770 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State DriveStorage Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State DriveVideo Card ASRock Challenger OC Radeon RX 7900 GRE 16 GB Video CardPhanteks XT PRO ULTRA ATX Mid Tower CaseCorsair RM650 (2023) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power SupplyAOC CU34G2X/BK 34.0" 3440 x 1440 144 Hz Curved Monitor (I bought this when it was like 200 something, now its like $600 wtf?)*Should I just go with 1 storage piece? I'm currently using two 1TB samsung SSDs because I like having that additional space, but it is a *little* overkill.
>>103306382Your post is incomprehensible what the actual fuck are you talking about then?
>>103306192Press N then disable it asking you in bios later
Can someone explain GPU pricing to me?I went on PCPartsPicker and was looking at the 4080 (because the 4090 melts connectors). A genuine NVidia 4080 costs $1800 ("founders edition"). OR, I can buy an MSI/Gigabyte/ASUS/Zotac/RandomShit branded 4080 for typically $1100-$1300.Look, I understand that NVidia makes all of them, but what do the others remove/delete/fuckup in order to make them "worth" $600 less than the original manufacturer? Is it actually worthwhile buying the NVidia, or will any 4080 perform roughly the same?Note, I'll be waiting for the 50xx series to come out in January, hoping to get one with 32GB because I want to do bigger AI image generation. I'm just trying to get some understanding for WTF the pricing is so weird.Not my pic, BTW.
>>103306420What a beautiful image, who painted it?
>>103306420Founders edition stays at msrp price, the other branded ones get price drops with demand and the price fell a lot from launch because the 5000 series releases soon
>>103306420It's just supply and demand.
>>103306415you really have to be niggerbrained to have issues comprehending router to router to ethernetdo you need it written out in packet tracer?
>>103306432A.H.
>>103306432ai dumbass
>>103306449You didnt even remotely express thats what you meant in your original post learn to write
>>1033063869800X3D is the same price.I don't know why you would go with the faster drive as your storage and the slower drive as your boot.
>>103306420iirc nvidia FE models are essentially launch models. if you didnt get one back then then you pay supply constrained tax.
>>103306458youre a dumb faggot vtoddler tourist ltt watching racecar johnny skid kys
New PC Build (hoping to be done by Feb):>9800x3d>7900XTX>64GB Ram>x870e mobo>XL North case (mesh)Current Build:>10900k>6900XT>64gb ram>Aorus SFF mobo (forget which one)>NR200pIs there ANY reason to not do this build? I know some people will say wait for X upgrade/new version but I don't know what's going to happen with prices and I don't want to wait and then something happens and I'm like "Damn, I should have upgraded/got parts when I had the chance" I also know stock is nonexistent on some pieces but if I can at least get MOST of the build in hand then I can justify working out getting the final part(s) I need for the build.
>>103306420>hoping to get one with 32GB because I want to do bigger AI image generation???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????local GPU AI is dead, everyone does their AI online now its much faster & cheaper.also how comes AI fags are super retarded when it comes to the hardware they are buying? its like software programmers who dont know shit about building PCs.
>>103306116Shit build. Use this:https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KpfyXR
Anyone see any good black Friday deals on office chairs?
>>103306490This build also works for >>103306386
Why shouldn't I just buy a RX 7900 XTX
>>103306521but bro the DEE EL /ss/
>>103304131lollmao
>>103304131I was just looking at fans for my new build and just went with arctics. I've done a lot of PC builds in my life and have ALWAYS gone with Noctuas but I'm at the point now where I just don't give that much of a fuck anymore. I'm not paying $20+ for fucking fans when something else will work just fine. I'm not doing anything so crazy that it'll even make a difference.
>>103306478they bought into the marketing they were fed by Nvidia.
>>103304806I listened to and you went with 1440p. Part of me thinks the 4k was the better buy given they were in the same price range but my GPU is just not strong enough. I would have had to use DLSS performance at 4k and Amd's upscaling ain't as good as nvidias
>>103306476> Is there ANY reason to not do this build?How can you not decide something like this on your own?Do you have the money for it? Do you really want it? You must know this.
>>103306672I don't really follow tech since my PCs builds are usually good. I have the money and want it. I meant in the instance of like "The 9800x3d has a 75% failure rate in the environment you're going to have it in" or the 8000 series GPUs are expected to release later this year or some shit. I've done my research but unless you're crawling through forums there's sometimes issues you may not be aware of since fucking google these days is all AI shit and pay wall articles.
>>103306140I don't own one but I'd get one if I didn't already like how my m27q looks. That's finally cheap enough where if the monitor burned in after 6-8 years it wouldn't be the worst thing ever. I'd prefer oled to be dirt cheap IPS prices though because then it would be a no brainer.
>>103306476>Is there ANY reason to not do this build?If you're already on 1440p it's not really necessary desu.
>>1033065218800XT's going to be better and cheaper in 3 months
>>103306476>I don't want to wait and then something happens and I'm like "Damn, I should have upgraded/got parts when I had the chance"I agree with this. Tariffs have me worried too. I got a 7900 xtx just in case but if I were you I would only buy a gpu just in case next gen sucks and be prepared to return it. 5070 ti will probably be better if it's priced at $800.
>>103306432Guy who posted it here, it's from one of the AI threads on /g/ in the last 2-3 days. Here: >>103294307>>103294307
I bought a 2x16 3600mhz memory kit and the DRAM frequency and uncore keep fluctuating, is this normal?
>>103306804>3600meant 3200
>>103306420The FE is being scalped in your region, it doesn't justify that cost premium.NVIDIA's official board partners need to meet NVIDIA's card design and component requirements.The cards will perform about the same at stock settings, some of the higher-end third-party cards will run better & quieter with manual OC/UV.
>>1033033795700x3d
>>103306471>>103306447Thanks, so is there any reason to get one rebrand vs. another? Or should I just shop by price alone?>>103306478>everyone does their AI online nowNo thanks.>super retardedI'm actually not, I'm just trying to figure out the pricing discrepancy, which has nothing to do with the hardware itself. BTW, I'm an ex-programmer who has assembled plenty of my own PCs.Oh, as far as "super retarded", I guess you were unaware that the amount of VRAM is one constraint on image generation size . . . genius.
>>103303984>>103306828bro needs a new GPU, 5900x should be fine for another few years
>>103303379the 6900XT is 4070 super tier, new games are just trash.
>>103306804It's normal but you can lock it from BIOS if you find it. I think the name varies per manufacturer, so start googling.
>>103306840>Thanks, so is there any reason to get one rebrand vs. another? Or should I just shop by price alone?Avoid the cheapest models, these will generally run louder and hotter with very little (if any) extra power limit set aside for overclocking.Avoid knock-off FE designs like the MSI Super Expert.The product engineers @ NVIDIA spent more resources optimizing their dual axial fan designs
whats the qrd on freesync gsync adaptivesynx jewry for monitors? do i need to care?
>>103306373>having your pc on a desk where your cat dog gf bf big titty mommy gf can knock it off
>>103306578>turn on pc >flies awaythanks ali express
>>103304806is there a big diff between woled and qd oled? the woleds seem more expensive
>>103306904>living with pets>letting women touch your shit
>>103306902its all the same shit now. variable refresh rate is baked into hdmi 2.1 and display port.
>>103306902any decent monitor will just have it nowadays, check rtings for specifics
>>103306476I think I could probably wait on the 7900xtx. It seems like there's not a huge gap between the 6900 and the 7900. I can go with the current build, use my current gfx card and save that money.
>>103306849bullshit i had my 69xt with mpt over 3090ti performance its absolutely still fast enough 4070 79gre tier at leasti had a 5600x 5900x that was slower than my 13600k by a country mile
>>103306947bzzt wrong there is a huge gap between 69xt and 79xtx when oc'd the better memory on the 7900xtx can make it 20-50% faster espeaclly at 2600mhz>>103306927>not having doggf in your bachelor apartmeneetshiddydoggydood
>>103306902Even budget gaming monitors have basic VRR implementation that works with both FreeSync and GSync.There are more expensive additions like GSync Pulsar, but these monitors matter to people who mainly play competitive fps and are good enough to leverage the benefits.https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-2560x1440-XG27ACS-Compatible-DisplayWidget/dp/B0CV24GQ9WThat monitor's good enough for most IPS gamers looking for a budget 1440p monitor, it offers a single overdrive mode too.Promo Code: SDHOL20 supposedly lowers the price to $151.20.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXgvP84g2BUhttps://youtu.be/1FF42JtnDUI?t=78
>>103306895Thanks! Bummer about MSI, I was looking at getting theirs. ASUS seems to have gone downhill in the last few years, and they were my former preference.
>>103307012Get msi suprim, not sure why they don't list it in charts
>>103307020Because MSI didn't send TechPowerUp any review samples.People found out last-gen's MSI Suprim cards basically re-used the Gaming X PCB & components through TechPowerUp's product teardowns.ASUS gets a lot of shit for a mix of merited & unmerited reasons, but you have to give them credit for sending practically all their GeForce card samples to TechPowerUp to open up. From Dual cards to a 4090 Matrix.
>>103307046MSI basically gave up making AMD cards because they got exposed for making shit tier coolers for them.
>>103306454>>103306456How could you tell just from looking?
>>103307084This seems like a shitpost but Its pretty obvious as none of the details make sense.
>>103307077i remember gigashite used the old 980 1080 cooler on my fucking 2080ti that hit 95 and throttled
>>103307077It goes both ways though, their 4090 Suprim was reviewed very well by TechPowerUp with a $1700 launch price, and even the OC version was hard to find throughout its entire production cycle.I'm pretty sure that review and component analysis helped the 4090 Suprim sell so well.https://www.techpowerup.com/review/msi-geforce-rtx-4090-suprim-x/3.htmlThe only better air-cooled 4090 was the Strix @ $2000.MSI sends card models they are comfortable with being torn down by reviewers.
>7900xtx staaarting to dry up like the 4090 did>will get replaced by inferior rdna 3.5 lite 8000 series from ps5 prooo and craptops6950xt 69xtxh all over again go get one before their gone new/used
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https://youtu.be/Eio9qM8vHDgto deshroud or not deshroud heading into summer and cbf with watercooling my pulse what 3k-5k rpm fans off ali would you nigs rec for a project like this
>>103306460thanks for pointing that out, think it was just me blindly copy and pasting the Storage text. I updated my build to include the 9800X3D and swapped out the storage and ram for the same ones >>103306490 this build usesSilicon Power UD90 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State DriveSilicon Power Value Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30Now I'm just gonna sit on this build until blackfriday/cybermonday comes around and if nothing changes I'll do an early christmas gift to myself
Used mobo or new?I have a old Ryzen 1500x, and 4100, and busted my mobo and/or 4100 trying to swap heat sinks I think.In my country, the only new B450s available are the Biostars for ~$50 USD, the used Asus or Asrocks are like ~$90 USD. Which should I buy?I want to sell the old CPU but I wouldn't feel right doing it without at least a check boot so I want to at least get the system back up once. I might keep the 4100 if it boots properly.
https://wccftech.com/asrock-intel-platform-power-management-driver-z890-motherboards-improve-core-ultra-200s-cpu-performance-especially-in-games/seems like a copeIntel relying on mobo makers to make their chips perform as they should since the 12-15th gen then turn around and blame them for their shit chips blowing up
>>103307258We'll care about Intel when they start designing better chips, new desktop chips aren't expected to launch until '26.
>>103307275so wtf was the point of this new socket? i see they've learnt nothing from 11-14th gen and still using E-cores which fucking SUCK ASS i disabled mine
>>103307287>so wtf was the point of this new socket?to piss on consumers
>>103307287Intel's foundries are still in a mess, their nodes aren't delivering the expected performance & production yields.That is fucking up the processor design teams because Arrow Lake was supposed to be an Intel 20A product, but the designers had to port it to TSMC 3nm.There are rumors Apple is considering Intel advanced node designs in the future, but they are not out of the woods until the ink is dry on the supply contract and Intel is mass producing these chips at acceptable yields.
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>>103305829Thank you this was helpful :)
Is there a webtool you can use to see if your future gpu will be bottlenecked by your cpu?
