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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

>CPU
Web browsing: 5600G
Budget: 12400F
Mid Range: 12700KF, 7600X
Gaming: AMD X3D
Workstation: 9950X
AVOID: Intel 13/14 series

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Arctic Liquid Freezer III
Double towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2
ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67

>MOTHERBOARD
ASRock B650M-HDV/M2, B650 LiveMixer, cheap X670

>RAM
DDR4: 2x16GB 3200CL16. Budget, 2x8GB
DDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN580,
Mid range: SN770
Premium: Samsung 990 Pro
Flagship: Sabrent Rocket 5

>GPU
1080p: RTX 4070 Super, RX 7700 XT
1440p: RTX 4070 Ti Super, RX 7900 GRE, RX 7800 XT
4K: RTX 4090, RTX 4080 Super, RX 7900 XTX
Workstation: RTX 4000 Series, AVOID: AMD cards

>CASE (from $ to $$$)
mATX: Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini
ATX: Phanteks XT PRO (ULTRA), Montech AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lian Li Lancool 207, Antec C8, Antec Flux Pro
AVOID: 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, Corsair 6500, Corsair 4000D airflow

>PSU
Budget: Gold rated 500-600W PSU
Mid range: ATX 3.0 compliant fully modular gold rated PSU @ 75% max load
High end: Seasonic PRIME TX
AVOID: GAMEMAX
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/ (updated Q3 2024)

>MONITOR
1080p: MSI G244F E2
1440p: ASRock PG27QFT2A, Dell G2724D
4K: Acer Nitro XV275K, Gigabyte M32U, Dell Alienware AW3225QF

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Mid range: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)
High end: Noctua NF-A12x25, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2

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next gen gpus be like
>so you want water with your airfryer?
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>>103311859
>make a GPU watercooled
>still make it 3 slots
What are these gooks doing?
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is the 13 frames worth it for a extra 100 watts?
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My motherboard only has two USB 2.0 connections on the board (not the I/O, I am talking about pin connections). I need a third one. Is there some way around this? A y-splitter of some kind, or an adaptor that goes through SATA or something?
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>>103311887
they'll make it 4 slots if you don't stop complaining (mATX users btfo)
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ySxNdg13y9A

Anyone done much 7900 xtx oc? Wunna try and get my pulse close to 3-3.3ghz on air and it's only stock rn
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>>103311887
my bet is on legal needing to cover their asses in case of the fans being left out or not installed or something equally retarded.
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I have 2x8GB DDR4, should I just buy the same set again to upgrade to 32GB or is that a bad idea
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>>103311969
It's probably fine if you're running a late DDR4 platform (c. Intel/AMD 400-series) at 3200 or below. Problem is it'll be difficult to get the "same set" not least because manufacturers like to swap ICs around in their cheapo kits.
Personally I just bought a fresh kit and sold the old one. I'd recommend you do the same.
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>>103311952
you get the most gains in games from memory oc than core oc. the card is more power/heat limited than anything so you want ptm7950 or water on it.
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Peerless phantom spirit assassin 140's when
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>>103311914
>1 degree per frame
Lnao hell no
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I have a msi b550 tomahawk. I was replacing my gpu and I noticed in the 2nd x16 slot (pcie 3) is pinned for x8 (pins half way up the slot, confirmed with an x8 sized card I have) even though the specs say it runs at x4 speed. does this make sense?
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>>103312065
no
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>>103311952
If your aim is 3.3ghz then just buy a ch341a and flash asscock's aqua vbios. this way you wont have to mess with evc which is much more annoying (altough it can achieve higher results).
also dont even try it without decent cooling. ptm7950 and deshrounding is the minimum, otherwise the card will throttle. try to aim for ~2800mhz on memory with fast timings for best results and as far as gcd goes, that just depends on your luck and how low you can push the voltage.
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>>103311989
I'm seeing plenty of info online that it should just work, and it just seems kinda like a waste to buy a new 2x16gb kit for double the price of just buying the same kit again
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>>103311914
This would only be worth it if it would push you from like 50fps to 60ish. Ocing for 10 more fps from 120 is just fucking stupid. Limit it to 72fps and then use frame gen because that was what it was actually made for.
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>>103311834
Budget: 1000 euros for a first gaming PC.
Country: netherlands
https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/XRjJ8Q

How do I get this under 1000 euros?

thanks.
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>>103312128
Go for used case, the ram brand can be something cheaper with the same specs like acer or adata, if you can find it, they are all hynix chips under the hood, so ram brand doesn't matter. Also, 650w PSU, Something cheaper like deepcool?
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>>103312128
>https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/XRjJ8Q
I would spend less on the RAM and GPU maybe?
Have you already bought them?
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In stock, sure.
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>>103312157
His RAM is already the cheapest possible because it's a PC part picker filter, retard.

His only chance is getting a free part from a friend.
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>>103311834
I'm looking for a used PC for watching 4k movies on my living room tv, what are the minimum specs I should be looking for?
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>>103312178
Intel i7 8700K
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>>103312128
>https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/b8RzYd
Minor modifications
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>>103312178
N100 mini PC should be fine
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Can a bad USB port or header trip PSU protections and trigger random hard restarts? My first instinct would be no, but I'm not sure.
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>>103312207
I've seen a bad usb hub cause random crashes, so yes.
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>>103312077
that's what I figured. directly copied from the spec page on msi:
>Expansion Slot
>1x PCIe 4.0/ 3.0 x16 slot (PCI_E1) [1]
>1x PCIe 3.0 x16 slot (PCI_E3), supports x4 speed [2]
>2x PCIe 3.0 x1 slots
>[1] The supported specification depends on installed processor.
>[2] When installing devices in M.2_2, PCI_E2 & PCI_E3 slots at the same time, PCI_E3 slot will be unavailable, and M2_2 slot only supports PCIe x2.
so it basically only says that it runs at 4x and is unavailable if you populate too many slots. yet you can see very clearly even on their own pictures that indeed the second slot is wired for 8x.
could it just be a mistake or bad translation? maybe something to do with back compat with pcie 1 and 2?
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A nas around
5600x + asrock b550m board with vrm heatsink (steel legend, pro4 or wifi se).

vs

7600 + msi b650m gaming wifi / b650m hdv?

The cost of the 7600 is double the price of 5600. So it smart? I'm not sure. Should I even be building around am5? 5600(x) seems like a good chip with ecc. 7600 might be the cheapest chip with ecc. am5 might get more updates, but its still expensive. Which one would you choose anons?

The problem with buying used is I have to find a way to sell the old gpu, ram, case and stuff.
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>>103312267
For a NAS? Get the cheapest, lowest power CPU possible. Network storage doesn't require a beefy CPU.
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>>103312267
I would get something like a 12100 for a NAS
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>>103312087
It's on a scale.
Ideally you want:
>Same ICs
>Same capacity
>Same speed
>Same timings
>Same PCB layout
>Same manufacturer
With all those your chance of instability at XMP speed is low(est). As you remove them the chance goes up. Another way to say it is that your max theoretical stable speed goes down.
Additionally, Corsair is notorious for swapping ICs around. The kit you bought in 2019(?) might be Micron 8Gb Rev. E but the one you buy today, even the exact same model, might use Hynix CJR.
Again, it'll probably be fine because your PC has a decent memory subsystem and 3200 isn't that fast by late DDR4 standards. The question is whether you want to run the risk for the sake of $10? $20?
In fact, that exact kit is currently $40 according to PCPP (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/p6RFf7/) so you wouldn't even be saving any vs. the cheapest 32GB kits right now.
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im getting sos tired from comparing parts
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>>103312028
Neat temps are really good actually gonna go water-cooled down the line as the stock cooler is so heavy the cards bending

Trying to figure out some sort of support but the other pcie cards get in the way will def get that thermal pad
>>103312085
>ch341a
Is there any guides? If I can hit 3.1ghz already is this even worth it?
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>>103312293
>>103312294
I wants the ecc though!
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>>103312267
Neither is great. 7600 is way overkill, unless you want to run a big Minecraft server or something too, and the 5600X has no IGP which makes board selection and setup a pain. You'd need to find a board that can both run headless and do ECC (many will boot, few will correct errors). If you know those boards will fit the bill then, of the two, go 5600(X). My actual recommendation would be an old used HEDT setup if you absolutely require ECC or a >2020 i3 if not.
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>>103312332
why do you need ECC?
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Is this the right size for 7900xtx deshroud I got planned and am5 9800x3d?
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>>103312341
PTM7950 is more expensive than that.
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My bad it's a pulse so not stock is 415w enough or does it need more? Just seeing what it can do while I wait for my rest of the new PC to arrive in a week or two
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>>103312341
Bruh, you don't need to do this for at least 5 years.
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>>103312243
so put something in it and try. wtf are you theory crafting for something you can easily test?
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>>103312352
SAR PLEASE THE MAGICAL THERMAL SUBSTANCE WORK IN ALL SIZES PLEASE
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>>103312337
I just want it. I'll be running zfs and I want to be reliable. I'm going to run it with proper backups and shit. I don't want bit rot. Also, used ddr4 ecc ram is cheap as balls.
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>>103312357
https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/1evty8w/roundup_with_5_phase_change_pads_honeywell/

I know and it looks like I'll still be cpu bottlenecked even with a 9800x3d in the VR sims I play

Gonna keep this gpu a long ass time
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>>103312267
just plug an external HDD into your router broheim
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>>103312370
you don't need ECC unless you're backing up complex math/science. i bet you're going to use it as a Plex and backup and you think a single bit flip will ruin the entire backup. even though you should always compare checksums and be backing up regularly so you don't have to even care if it's the most up to date if it DID bitflip
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>>103312360
because I won't be home for another 10 hours to test it out and I need something to do while I and everyone else at work are shitbagging since today is our friday
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>>103312335
I was able to find 4650g at the same price as 5600. Would that work better? No, graphics is no problem, because I can just install from a different machine and swap disks. But I'll need gpu for modifying bios settings? I don't even have a dgpu atm to do setup. I'm on the fence on which one to buy for my primary machine.
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>>103312389
Just monitor the temps, install a support bracket its going to last a long ass time.
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>>103312297
At least for my region currently it's 30 euros for the 2x8gb set, while i can't find any 2x16gb set for under 50 euros.
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>>103312390
Nein, I wants zfs.
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What are the chances that the 9700x goes below $300
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>>103312335
nas oses like truenas can run headless after install, so a permanent gpu is not an absolute requirement if he doesn't need hardware acceleration like for transcoding or gaming in a vm
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>>103311834
>bottom exhaust when heat rises
what did he mean by this
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>>103312422
Might just lie it flat this cheap case flexes so bad at the rear io anyway.

When the fans die I'll repaste and do this
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>none of the parts I want to buy are on sale
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>>103312419
>I was able to find 4650g at the same price as 5600
It would make setup and board selection easier but you should then double check ECC support. APUs , being monolithic, have different IO capabilities.

>No graphics is no problem...
Some boards will refuse to POST if no display adapter is present. It's just another thing you need to check. Or work around it with a used GT710 or something.
IMO you want some sort of GPU because, this being a home server, you'll have a far easier time troubleshooting stuff if you can just go hook up a monitor to it.
In any case, for both ECC support and headless operation I recommend checking out the L1Techs forums.
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oh shit a bunch of oled deals just dropped I can't decide if I should get a qd-oled or woled

on one hand qd-oled looks better and is cheaper
on the other hand qd-oled has those reflections and is a bitch to clean, plus I keep hearing about people getting eyestrain from qd-oleds but not woleds

then woleds are worse looking and more expensive but also don't cause eyestrain, plus they have that 480hz meme mode that I'll probably use on my indieshit games
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>>103312401
>you don't need ECC
Shintel has brain washed you anon.

>compare checksums
I'm too lazy to compare checksums. If my filesystem can't even manage to do that, why the fuck do I even bother with loonix? I might as well drink the koolaid and buy a synology, buy an iPhone and start having gay sex. You know what I mean?

Last time I did this, I bought some ewaste, phenom, pentium gold and some nahalem i3 and did a k3s build with ceph, nextcloud, mariadb, whole thing automated with ansible and shit, I wanted plex, but this setup was getting too retarded, I'm planning to sell that and get something power efficient. Now I want something simple that someone with brain damage can maintain. This time, the max I'm gonna run is nextcould + plex behind wireguard? IDK, but none of these require good hardware.
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>>103312426
And how much can you expect to get for your kit on FBMP etc? The difference, plus your time in selling, is essentially the price of hedging against instability.
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>>103312433
all you need are ext4 and sshfs.

back in 2010 I used to use samba/SMB. now THAT was insanity.
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>>103312494
>Shintel has brain washed you anon.
??? i'm posting from my 3rd ryzen cpu and amd gpu combo
>This time, the max I'm gonna run is nextcould + plex behind wireguard?
so why do you need ECC? 12100 is unironically perfect for you because of the igpu and low set-up cost
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>>103312466
It's not the OS it's the board. Some, mine included, literally refuse to boot without a GPU.
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>>103312484
Its a pro chip and has ecc support, even the most basic asrock boards explictly mention support for ecc on thier pro APUs. I wanted to go 5600 because it might be more power efficient because new generation?
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>>103311834
Am I crazy for leaning towards the 9700x over the 9900x and the 9800x3d?
>is well within my budget
>good performance for mixed tasks
>efficient
>low power, so quiet and chillymaxxed
>don't play many games, and the ones I do aren't CPU limited
>won't have to buy another CPU cooler, because I can reuse mine at the lower TDP
Given how many reviewers have shit on it, I feel crazy
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>>103312472
The fire rises
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>>103312554
you could just get the 7700 non-x and have the same experience
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>>103312419
ryzen g's do not support ecc in any form unless they are pro models. honestly a 5600x will be super overkill for a nas that is going to be a nas nothing else, but it's cheap and quite power efficient and leaves you a little bit of headroom if you change your mind in the future and want to add more functionality. to give you an idea, my setup is 12 disk split in 3 z2 zvols with 32gb ddr3 and an fx6300 (I've posted about it here before), and I've never seen my cpu exceed 40% under load, except when jellyfin was first indexing my library and generating chapter frames.
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>>103312456
AMD have no competition and consumers are hungry for upgrades, I wouldnt count on it
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I honestly don't get the question of "why do you need X?"
It seems to me it's a question posed to trying to get people to step in line with current market offerings. The DIY marketspace doesn't have much ECC so you must justify ECC because the market can't be wrong with the majority of systems not having ECC.
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>>103312513
I have thought about n100 build, but its not cost effective here. Does 12100s have a cheap itx board? If I'm going shintel, atleast give me a nice cheap itx. I would really like a build with ecc this time though.
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>>103312586
what about aliexpress? i can get one for 85 bongs which is the cost of the 12100 basically
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>>103312128
In addition to other anons try Ryzen 5 7500f, might as well save a few bucks.
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>>103311834
Got my LG C4 42" just set up, damn does it look nice. Works great with 100% scaling and I have no idea why people say text sucks, looks great.
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>>103312537
>Its a pro chip
I'm not aware of any 5000-series APUs gettng a PRO designation. Not to say they don't exist just to double-check.

>even the most basic asrock boards explictly mention support for ecc
Yes indeed but please understand that "support" could mean different things to you and I vs. the manufacturer. By their standards "supports" could mean "will boot with" whereas we actually want error correction. Ideally you'd find a test of the board that verified error correction via benchmark (again: L1Techs).

>I wanted to go 5600 because it might be more power efficient because new generation?
No if anything the APU will be more efficient. Less IO die overhead. Earlier APU gens (2000/3000) used the last-gen lithography so might be less efficient than their CPU counterparts depending on loading.
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can someone give me a guestimation of what they think the power jump is from a 5700x3d to 7800x3d and 9800x3d. like, the powerspike doesn't justify the cost right if you're only playing shit like shooters and mobashit
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>>103312184
>>103312197
>>103312199
Okay thanks guys, I really appreciate the feedback
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>>103312559
They're similarly priced where I am, and I don't mind spending a few more dollars to get the newer architecture, plus some performance and loonix benefits.
If I pull the trigger on the 9700x, I'd still end up with a chunk of change to spare
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>>103312613
There are 5000 series with pro, but I couldn't find any for sale. The 4650g is apparently based on 3600x.

>>103312613
>Yes indeed but please understand that "support" could mean different things to you and I vs. the manufacturer. By their standards "supports" could mean "will boot with" whereas we actually want error correction. Ideally you'd find a test of the board that verified error correction via benchmark (again: L1Techs).
I was hoping to not shell the bux for steel legend, but b550m steel legend it is then. Can't find a lot of people asking for ecc support on low end boards. x570 seems to do fine with ecc.
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>>103312601
IDK if that's an option in my country.
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There's like 5 different versions of the thermalright phantom spirit, what the fuck even is the difference they all look the same
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>>103312649
what country?
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>>103312584
I definitely agree ECC support should be more widespread and, critically, transparent but I do still think that it's a bit overkill for a home NAS.
I suppose the key aspect is that I want this anon to actually build a NAS because they're really useful. If he spends all his time researching the, unnecessarily difficult, process of getting proper ECC support instead of building the damn thing then we've both failed in the /real/ objective.
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>>103312661
Jeetland desu :(
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>>103312584
i am one of the anons that doesn't think that he needs ECC. It would be ideal if everything had ECC but he's going to be looking for a cheap AM4 board that supports ECC and he might as well just spend his time better elsewhere. if he really needed ECC then it wouldn't be an issue of going for an old Xeon and just running the NAS from that.
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>>103312606
Also setting screensaver to blank black is decent workaround for no auto suspend.
The other option is to use voice, just say "Hi LG, blank screen" and it will turn the screen blank (TV still running) and when you're back just say "Hi LG" and it turns back on.
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>>103312669
Yo, I have built this in the past and I took it down because I didn't have proper backups. This time I want to do it right. I wanted ecc on my primary 7900x + x870 machine but ddr5 ecc is too expensive. If not for ecc, I might even go 8500g + some cheap am5 board. Its about the same cost as the am4 build. I'd really like to have ecc.
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>>103312673
SAAAAAAAAAAAAR.. what about something like this?
https://www.amazon.in/sspa/click?ie=UTF8&spc=MTozNzQyNzc3MjE1NTgwMjYzOjE3MzI2MzgxMzI6c3BfYXRmOjMwMDM4MzkyMDYzODYzMjo6MDo6&url=%2FSKULLSAINTS-Shadow-Mini-Dual-Band-Bluetooth%2Fdp%2FB0D4J1FPR6%2Fref%3Dsr_1_1_sspa%3Fcrid%3D28BSQYZMC6LMM%26dib%3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Bi8i6vVqVEZZsuuW0iz401DmOJHPXkl6rs1t7RjR9Lo-gZCjAhbLqWkCZ8_UVY-KORdN65Nib-b_JuH3dex29B0w0sO9MwXiLsBwhVN-1ZVa3Ouh1CSjIJCZ-Rvlw5wKr958TxVaIF7DaebT8ACb_NsPnoNiIoLT7QCxL-Wp4GFhGYYdEiwyyk-hCKtAIZIda3uhWp70eduyPi_vGb8jkF5_KR-89DJy_83A5hIZIow.54ze6hQMnjnaBWTey8eYoaw8Jiwwe0maMIcaGxhGnJg%26dib_tag%3Dse%26keywords%3Dn100%2Bmini%2Bpc%26qid%3D1732638132%26sprefix%3Dn100%252Caps%252C71%26sr%3D8-1-spons%26sp_csd%3Dd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY%26psc%3D1
or is that too expensive?
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>>103312606
Text rendering is better on LCD because OLED panels use exotic subpixel arrangements that aren't compatible with current subpixel rendering tech. That said, it's not a massive issue with high enough pixel density as long as you switch to grayscale rendering – you'll only get weird artifacts if your OS still renders text as if you were on an RGB LCD.
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>>103312618
20% -> 15%
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Is USB 3.0 not enough for fancy gaming mice? I got a wireless Razer and if I plug the dongle into one of the front ports it sometimes disconnects. Also, when using the other front port to transfer files to an external drive or something, the mouse is almost unusable. Is it really a bandwidth issue or are my ports fucked?
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>>103312644
>The 4650g
Oh my bad I had the 5600G in mind for some reason.
Seeing as 3000/4000/5000 were on the same node the APU should be generally less power hungry than the CPU versions. Idle consumption is going to be your biggest drain in a server so the APUs have an edge.

>I was hoping to not shell the bux for steel legend
Well as I said the cheapo way to do ECC on the desktop is a used HEDT/server platform. Plenty of 14nm era Xeons for under $100 on Ebay.
Don't get me wrong, your plan is fine if you're willing to do the research.
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>>103312673
or this? https://nationalpc.in/barebone/zotac-zbox-ci337-nano-intel-n100-barebone-minipc
just buy some cheap DDR4 and an SSD
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>>103312713
either faulty case ports (its more common than you think) or fucked up bios/windows settings regarding usb power saving.
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>>103312699
Where are them sata ports though? Also, how do I power my hdds?
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>>103312618
The difference can be big in some titles but unless you're playing sim-heavy games or using a high end card at 1080p it shouldn't concern you right now.
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>>103312713
>Razer
Wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it's sending MBs of telemetry and shit back to HQ. Front panel ports are IME less reliable in general though.
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>>103312714
>Plenty of 14nm era Xeons for under $100 on Ebay.
I was so set on getting a used rackmount server, but I watched this Wolfgang guy (the name is so cool) and he did this build: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8fWIh1V-YM
that I'm a fan of.
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42" C4 vs the slew of 32" QDOLEDs - the decision is not yet made

look at that matte slop coating though, you can literally see the contrast dip and hazyness from the pic, idk if can do it lads
the G8 is the cheapest one though

I'm fomoed out of my mind, tomorrow will be the final day and I will make a decision
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>>103312714
Xeons being power hungry is the issue.
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>>103312761
actually I just remember the haze might just be QDOLED raised blacks I had a mind fuck
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>>103312718
Would buy these for pfsense, but not for nas, for nas, I want sata ports, hdd enclosure and them powered and all.
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>>103312761
>>103312777
matte > glossy
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>>103312734
What settings should I look for? I only know of Selective Suspend or something like that in the power plan which I turned off. I guess the front IO could be bad but the case is brand new (Lancool 216) and I'm not gonna transplant this system and RMA the case just for that.
>>103312741
I uninstalled the Razer botnet (it was using like 600MB of RAM and I only have 16GB). I guess I'll just plug the dongle into a 3.1 port at the back.
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>>103312651
se have slightly less fin stack therefore slightly shorter, just get whatever is in stock
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>>103312785
that's (You)r opinion, in which case, Samsungs matte finish is better than LGs (that WOLED)
but again I remember it's not the finish that is fucking the contrast in those pics, it's the qdmeme
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>>103312799
if it only happens with the front ports then its the ports. if it happens with the back ports then its the device or mobo itself. in your bios should be usb settings or whatever its different for each mobo read your manual.
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>>103312799
I hope you atleast adjusted the onboard dpi profiles before uninstalling it and never worry about shitnapse ever again
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since the sub $150 x570 market is dead save exactly 1 option, is this a good board? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qkLwrH/asrock-x570-pro4-atx-am4-motherboard-x570-pro4
I would get a b550 for 20 to 50 bucks less, but I want all of the slots to be gen 4 and you know, actually usable, because I plan on actually using all of the slots and pcie lanes I possibly can which is quite limited on b550.
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>>103312819
It still happens VERY rarely with the back ports but I blame that on Wi-Fi interference (router is like 10 inches from my PC).
>>103312826
Yeah, I don't use profiles or the extra buttons so I just disabled them. Just set it to 800DPI and 1000Hz.
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>>103312846
That's a wicked board anon. Asrock has pretty much nailed the am4 and am5 boards.
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https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/amd-software-pro-edition-24-q4.454507/


>AMD Software: PRO Edition is designed to deliver market-leading uptime and stability. >Rigorous multi-wave testing and exhaustive ISV certifications help make this “the industry’s most stable driver”.

>Built to help content creators make the best, AMD Software: PRO Edition is designed to deliver quality, performance, security, and simplicity.
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>>103312846
The VRMs aren't top tier but unless you're using a juiced up 5950X it's adequate.
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Day 600 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.
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>>103312894
>mfw it's been 4000+ days for me
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>>103312709
>as you switch to grayscale rendering
Yeah, did that and it does look even better, even though out of the box at 100% scaling and a distance of ca. 80cm it was okay on the 42inch panel. But this is even better, thanks.
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>>103312320
the ch341a is a tool to flash bioses and there are plenty of resources online that teach you how to use it. Its not hard, but you do need a secondary pc or laptop.
I doubt you actually hit 3.1ghz with at stock, but the aqua vbios is about a 20% increase in power consumption (reaching up to 560w ppt) and should give a 10%+ boost in performance.
Wether its worth it is up to you since you stated that you wanted to reach 3.3ghz core. If you are chasing high bench numbers it is. If you want to break records go for evc2.
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>>103312870
not sure if sarcasm...

>>103312886
and if suppose I was considering picking up a 5900/5950 either on sale or 2nd hand but leaving them stock, would it suffice or should I opt for a slightly better board like https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RJxbt6/asrock-x570-phantom-gaming-4-atx-am4-motherboard-x570-phantom-gaming-4?
it's $35 more so it has to be $35 worth of better, right?
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If my CPU is locked (5700X3D), is it ok to max out LLC for the absolute best stability?
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>>103313060
No sarcasm, I'm fan of asrock, so is /g/. Have you seen the amount of shilling for b650m hdv or nova or any of the pro rs models? I own a x870 pro rs myself. It should be able to handle 5900 or 5950 no problem.
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>>103311914
Absolutely! Why do you even ask? Are you not (at least semi-) pro hardcore gayming enthusiast master race?
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If you upgrade sooner than 7 years after upgrading you fell for the marketing
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>>103313060
Here's the ranking for (almost) all AM4 boards:
https://gist.github.com/shibajee/46968edef81f2da8f9d8ec4efa34de88
As you can see, those two are in the same tier. They can handle a stock 5950X just fine with any sort of case airflow, just don't enable PBO.
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Going from 60hz to 240hz/480hz is going to be something
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>>103312099
I want an external GPU case with dedicated PSU that I can keep in my winter garden to save the palm trees from freezing.
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>>103313160
>4K@240Hz
>2K@480Hz
What even is the point if the 4090 can't push that much?
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>>103313201
e'sports' games
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>>103313192
Based. I've had a potted cactus enjoying my exhaust heat for years.
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>>103313201
I can play Minecraft at 1200+ fps at 4k
2000 fps at 1080p
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>>103313066
Can't you just reduce curve optimizer?
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>>103313275
Haven't played Minecraft in a very long time but that seems like more than CPUs should be able to handle. Is that with a very low render distance or have they actually optimized it a lot?
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>>103312128
> under 1000 euros
Unironically: get a second hand AM4 board with a 5700X3D and 32GB DDR4 and invest more in a better GPU. The GPU is much more important than AM5/DDR5. Your budget is too tight to go AM5. Make it 1500 and I'd say AM5.
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>>103313299
A lot of boards (mine included) don't even allow CO on X3D chips.
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>>103312401
> you don't need ECC
Please don't hurt his feelings, mate! He said he just wants it.
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>>103313096
can't say I have, although I haven't been looking very hard for it

>>103313151
gotcha. what the hell is the difference then? charging stupid people $35 extra for the board to be a bit more edgy? the layout, specs, etc are all exactly the same form what I could see.
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>>103312478
Wait for January! December is usually the most expensive month of the year and hardware prices drop after NewYear.
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>>103313400
Trump tariffs :)
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>>103312478
This except they're out of stock instead
>every good asrock board out of stock on Amazon except the matx one
Might just grab that and return it when I can order the one I actually want. Holiday return window currently active through late january
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>>103313316
Hardware has moved on faster than MC can bloat
MC's biggest issue is garbage collector stutter and entity heavy scenarios which can be optimized
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>>103312554
If money is an issue there is no reason not to get the 9700X in your case. It is still a powerful and efficient CPU, it's just that spoiled and critical reviewers expected even more than this.
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>>103312673
>Jeetland
Sincere condolences, Sar!
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>>103313383
>what the hell is the difference
According to Buildzoid (turboautist overclocking expert youtuber), none.
https://youtu.be/POwr-o4HBHU
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>>103312894
>>103312936
But it feels like I got it just yesterday...
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Are there any PC cases that have USB 4 ports yet?
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>>103313316
>>103313436
Get Sodium or if you have a Nvidia GPU, Nvidium.
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Will 5070 be better than 4070TiS?
Not sure if it's worth to wait. I can get TiS for $800 right now (it's a very good price here).
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>>103313411
Are just a meme. Trump can't allow to increase electronic hardware prices because American economy would suffer. Unlike with chink or european cars.
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>>103313562
No, it will have only 12GB VRAM and probably be slightly slower too.
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>>103313562
Another reason to get the 4070TiS now is that the 5070/S/Ti won't release before April '25. If you can wait, do it. If not, buy.
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Is it worth waiting for the new GPUs if I'm looking for good value and don't care about gaytracing and frame faking? Basically, will anything change in the rasterization performance per dollar market?
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>>103313644
Yes, newer will be lower power consumption as it will be on better tsmc node and design changes. There will be a performance increase if Njudea feels like giving it to you. They generally give everyone a little bit of generation performance, but not too much, that is reserved for servers or the top card.
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>>103313666
Thanks, Satan, I'll wait, even if only for the used old gen market to be cheaper.
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>can download higher resolution
>can download more fps
>can't download more cpu performance
>can't download more ram
are nvidia jews the only ones who are even trying?
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Is the BenQ GW2490 a good second monitor? I can't really go past 24 inches.
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>>103313684
Works on my (cloud) machine
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>>103313519
Sodium and nvidium doesn't really help, atleast not in the scenarios I described.
MC flips from being GPU bound to CPU in an instant when you have things like pic related on screen.
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>>103313705
Bruh, 27" 1440p 240hz IPS are like 250 bux. 1080p 24" 100Hz monitor should come for free when you buy a logitech mouse, you shouldn't pay actual monies for it.
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>>103313562
5070 will be raped by tariffs and 12GB VRAM
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My wife wants a new pc for audio production. I'm currently planning to build around a Ryzen 9 5950x to run Cubase, but is there a newer, similarly priced productivity CPU available right now? Did Intel fix whatever issue their CPUs were having?
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>yeah bro buy a used gpu its a deal
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>>103313514
If your motherboard has internal headers for USB4 you can connect them to the USB-C port of your case (even if it is labeled 3.1/2) but you need specific USB4 cables for this or else bandwidth will be crippled. USB4 as such is downward compatible and uses standard USB-C ports.

https://www.crest.com.au/blogs/learn/usb4-vs-usb3-whats-the-difference
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>>103313885
NTA, but there's no point in 240Hz monitors if your GPU can't get past 100 fps without butchering quality with upscalers. What do you even play on those 240Hz monitors? Counter Strike 1.6?
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>>103311834
Quick question guys.
Should I go something like this for my upgrade or just splooge for 98003D

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/6yXJ8Q

Currently I'm using R5 1600X with the cheapest AM4 MB I could find 9 years ago and RX 6700XT

I'm mainly using my pc for sim racing if that matters
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>>103313936
> for audio production
Tell her she doesn't need a new pc for child production.
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>>103313953
>don't mind me, just pirating this gpu and vram
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>>103313973
This is copium for not getting the better product. It feels better overall to use, the scrolls, the overall usage is great.
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>>103311945
>they'll make it 4 slots if you don't stop complaining
Um...
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>>103313936
I was about to build on 5950x, I built on 7900x instead, better performance. Build on am5 anon.
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>>103313977
Get a 5700X3D. Seriously. Saves you hundreds of bucks that are not worth the very few frames more. Rather get a faster GPU and get significantly more fps.
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>>103314054
Not him but it doesn't look like there are any deals for the 5700x3d this black friday, I was looking into upgrading from my 3600 but I'm not in a rush, should I just wait a bit longer?
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anyone here did a BTF/Project zero build? aka mobos with Back-Connect Connectors.
what was your experience with it?
any problems getting all the niche products? especially the "cable less" gpu for the asus mobos.
would you recommend?
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Can someone tell me if this is right or not fan wise ? I think the case fan is an intake from that side and the two cpu fans are intakes too. I was sort of in a rush when I installed it and I've got a slight feeling it's all wrong (one fan is intake one outtake so they are fighting with each other for air).
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does anybody have the LG 32GR93U-B ?
is it worth it?

can get it on amazon for 400€
online a lot of people report bad quality control and black lines appearing on the panel after a few months of use, even though all the tech reviewers are shilling it
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>>103314054
>Get a 5700X3D
Unfortunately there isn't a single store where I am that has it.
I would have to order it online and wherever I look shipping would nearly double the price
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>>103314177
This is why I wish they standardized having the arrows in them
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>>103314102
> should I just wait a bit longer
Yes, if it doesn't itch or hurt you too much, wait. As I said before, this is the wrong time of the year to purchase hardware, despite "black friday" frenzy. Prices usually go down at the beginning of a year. Except oc for newly launched products.
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>>103314223
> shipping would nearly double the price
I what hellhole on Earth do you dwell? Wait for January, it will be cheaper.
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>>103313511
Literally outdated trash
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What should I expect to spend if my goal is 1440p 120fps on a 27-inch monitor? Possibly with a spare 24-inch 1080p 144hz as a second screen
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>>103314348
Yes, it's moaning under the load of 20GB of texture mods in Cyberpunk. I really need the 5090! Urgently!
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>>103314374
something between 200 bucks and a grand
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People are still buying new 5950x's today? It was one heck of a CPU back in the day but there are so many newer faster CPUs now
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>>103311969
>>103311989
>>103312087
It worked fine for me on an MSI Gaming Plus Max B450 board with a 3600X. The extra set was a different die too, ran at 3600 mhz no issues. A sperg on here called bs and claimed it was impossible (despite all the video evidence of people testing ram myths) so I posted proof.
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>>103314036
This was my first pick, but supposedly cubase prefers lots of cores. I don't know much about it so I don't want to get a 7900x and find out it sucks in cubase even though normal benchmarks are better.
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>>103312177
PCpartpicker doesn’t include everything, just nearly everything. It’s a good starting point but worth double checking.
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>>103312173
I just bought a network switch which they claim will take 2 weeks to deliver, but if I get a used one I can get next day delivery. Amazon is pretty shit these days.
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>>103314456
Pick the 7950x then. Its better than 5950x in every way, buy its slightly more expensive. It will run on potato mobo.
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>>103314403
sometimes it goes on sale for under $300 and it still has the most cores you can fit on am4 thats not threadripper.
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>>103314403
> People are still buying new 5950x's today?
> so many newer faster CPUs now
All of them require an AM5 platform. Imagine having a premium AM4 board with loads of qt RAM already and all you need/want is multicore power. Why not get a cheaper 5950x if you can't reduce income tax by upgrading?
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>>103314456
Check if 9900x works as its only slightly more expensive than 7900x.
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>>103314177
>>103314300
Face of a fan always sucks air - the pretty side, often with a sticker. Can't say for the fans mounted on the heatsink, but the one mounted on the case back sucks air from the case and exhausts in the room.
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>LG C4 720€
>SAMSUNG G8 850€
>GIGASHIT FO32U2 1050€
>MSI 32 UPX 1060€
>ASUS PG32UCDM 1260€ (PRIOR LOW 999€)

tomorrow I am either buying the C4, Samsung or Asus if severe price drop deal, by the looks of it, idk if the price jumps for 32s above the samsung are worth it at this point

what am I not accounting for here? do I experiencemaxx with 42" or do I cope with a mere 32" and 240hz?!

some say the hdr is better on the monitors, some others say the tv has way better hdr, everyone is a retard

it's all so tiring
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>>103314564
You've already decided you are going to buy a TV.
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>>103314497
Would like which retards bought too many RAM. I have 32GB DDR5 and do 4k video editing fine.
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>>103314497
>>103314614
there can never be too many RAM
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>>103314614
> I have 32GB DDR5 and do 4k video editing fine.
Some play Cities Skylines with 6 gorillion mods and already need 64GB, others are Photoshop pros and need all the RAM of the world. You can never have too much RAM, just not enough. Rather sooner than later you will need it anyway. This is my experience. I had to upgrade countless times over the decades. I'm sick of upgrading and not finding the identical modules.
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>>103314586
no, have not made up my mind so far
just missed some flash deals and price drops too I missed an event, no monitors though
I'm not even building a pc until nvidia gpus drop but I could have bought parts months out idk... worth saving a few bux maybe not
AAAAAAAAAAA send help
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>>103314403
Loads of people are still on Zen2 or low-end Zen3 like 5600x and conclude it's wiser to max out the AM4 platform than to jump head first into the new shit. PCIE 5.0 is pointless. 4.0 will serve you fine even with the upcoming gen of GPUs. DDR5 RAM has ways to go in terms of affordability, as do gen5 NVMEs and AM5 boards themselves. I'll wait out Zen6 and ignore the AM5 platform until then.
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>>103314614
RAM is like water.
You can never have too much but once it starts running low you feel it fast
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I had to shift the hecking fans on the hecking cooler because RAM was in the way

How the heck does this shit happen. Supposedly hecking compatible as well
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>>103314818
RAM size isn't standard
the only way to get guaranteed compatibility is to not have the cooler hang above the RAM at all
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>>103314818
>buy retarded elongated ram sticks to have shitty gamer rgb lights
>hurr why doesn't my massive cooler not fit
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>>103314818
> Trident Z, height of 45mm
Kek. Should have gotten the Ripjaws. Just sayin.
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>>103314847
It must be the gay ass rgb RAM that's too tall.
But desu the fans don't fit on the other side next to the ports
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>>103314877
yeah VRM heatsinks aren't standard either
one fan might be enough depending on your CPU
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>>103314857
same size as the non colored actually
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is 3440x1440 good for displays or is being shilled too much?
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>>103314947
it's great in portrait mode to read those korean webcomics
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Posted one or two threads back about looking for PC upgrade recommendations, primarily gonna be using it for 2D + 3D rendering, animation, and a little VR on the side
One thing is I'm unsure if I have the correct 3060 graphics card picked out, not really helpful that they have a half dozen different kinds of 3060s
Anything not listed has already been purchased, power supply is 650W
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>>103314947
4k is the bare minimum, ultrashort and gigaultrashort is bad honestly
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>>103314987
get a peerlessassassin/phantomspirit insteal of a liquid cooler
get the same ram as you've already got, never mix 2 different kinds
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>>103315034
>get the same ram as you've already got, never mix 2 different kinds
I meant to zero that one out too since I have both sets already lol, and they were more of a placeholder anyway just to show storage, don't worry they're both 3200mHz I just couldn't find it on the list
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>>103314968
>korean webcomics
i too love nikke
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>>103314987
3060 is fine for 1080p but you'll need to be patient for rendering and VR will be compromised outside of low-poly stuff. The Ventus is one of the lower-end model, it won't explode on you but the cheap cooling can get a bit noisy if you start overstressing it.
360mm aio is overkill and that unit is too cheap for me to trust it with running liquid inside my PC, a twin tower cooler like the other guy recommended is more than enough for the 5700X3D Mine doesn't throttle at full load with Noctua's D12L.
And do as he said for the RAM, especially with those mismatched latencies. Get a 4x8GB kit if possible.
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>>103314818
They're not compatible. 44mm and taller RAM you usually want an AIO or small cooler.
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>>103314818
>ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67

Didn't read the OP and now you suffer for it.
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>>103314968
> read those korean webcomics
Can you read Hangul? I wish I could. But I can make kimchi. Good kimchi.
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>>103315074
The RAM was a mistake on my part as I said above, all 4 are 3200 mHz
So should I do a 40 series GPU instead? I was told AMD was cheaper and comparable but there were a ton of compatability issues. VR isn't especially high priority since it'll basically be just VR Chat with friends occasionally, and yeah I'll switch to an air cooler instead which is significantly cheaper than water cooled.
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>>103313096
>x870 pro rs
What ram do you have with it?
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>>103312554
9700x (paired with a 4080S), I’ve had zero issues with it other than needing a bios update.
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>>103313096
>AM5 board handle AM4 CPU
Uh?
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>>103315113
4060 isn't much of an improvement over 3060, you'd need to go 4070 or higher to see a real difference. Keep the 3060 if you want to stay within a budget, just know you won't be able to run demanding games at 1440p or higher.
AMD won't cut it if you want to use it for rendering, all relevant hardware renderers (like Blender's) are optimized for NVidia hardware.
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>>103313885
Kek, kinda true. Ideally I'd just get a 4K 27 inch screen and repurpose my current 1440p one as a second monitor, but if I go 4k, I kind of want it to be OLED. The problem is that I spend most of my time on Teams, VS Code and 4chan and I fear I might get burn-in.
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Is va ultra widescreen as good as IPS?
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>>103311834
Nawk Tuah
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>>103315217
No
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>>103315200
So this should be a good lineup then?
I'd rather keep it to a budget yeah, my current GPU is a 1660ti and CPU is 3600 so this would be a massive upgrade either way, and I'm not too concerned about not having 4k.
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>>103313977
A 5700X3D would be a much better choice. Roughly the same performance, for much less money. X3D chip also works well in racing games.
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>>103313953
why do you keep posting this? most people check and do some testing before buying used

I've never owned a brand new GPU, all used, just needed some repasting. My current one is a 3090 bought used from 2022.
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>>103314102
>>103314223
Nigga, over 20 Dutch shops sell the 5700X3D.
https://tweakers.net/processors/amd/ryzen-7-5700x3d_p1581322/vergelijken/
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>>103315217
VA is only good if you're ready to sacrifice some motion clarity for deeper blacks. It also needs to be curved to mitigate the inferior viewing angles.
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>>103314327
Curacao perhaps
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>>103314564
QD-OLED burns in slower because the blue OLED it uses goes through QD which amplifies the brightness so it's more efficient and consumes less power and burns in slower too because the OLED doesn't need to get so bright. Non QD-OLEDs like the LG C4 doesn't have brightness multiplication so it burns out faster.
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>>103315397
non issue also tv has years of refinement and larger heat dissipation area and lower ppi
also I don't care
disabling pixel shift because it causes fringing, running oled light at 100 day 1
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>>103315076
>>103315085
B-but PC PART PICKER said they were compatible
(And they are. Shifting the fan up is normal apparently)
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>>103315358
Looks good to me.
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>>103315444
thanks fren, appreciate the help
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I've already built my computer why am I still here
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If I'm reapplying paste to the gpu do I need to clean the mess that was the original paste? Or just off the top of the chip itself? Also, new paste is all non-conductive as well unless I buy something specifically conductive, right? It's all in these tiny resistors that look super delicate.
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>>103315512
you clean the old paste off with iso alcohol + paper towel
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>>103314532
In general face of fan sucks air, but remember that reverse fans exist now
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>>103314818
Punishment for having rgaybe ram
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>>103315466
start overclocking & undervolting
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https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807940942212.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.1.348e1b05yzfj7x&algo_pvid=84b00cda-a173-48c1-8896-ebfa48d149ff&algo_exp_id=84b00cda-a173-48c1-8896-ebfa48d149ff-0&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21USD%21276.75%2183.02%21%21%21258.07%2177.42%21%402101fb0b17326542322437149ef663%2112000043900780401%21sea%21US%210%21ABX&curPageLogUid=vNlHg4fZxv4y&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch%7Cquery_from%3A#nav-review

anyone know if this shit is real?
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>>103315436
>Disclaimer: Some physical constraints are not checked, such as RAM clearance with CPU Coolers.
Learn to read then.
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>>103315635
>Quantity: 958 available
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is it worth it buying into 12th gen new in 2024/25, especially given the reliability issues and poor price to performance with 13/14th gen?
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>realize can also get the Samsung 360hz 1440p 27" qdoled for 520€ now
hmmmm
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>>103314102
>>103314223
>what is aliexpress?
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>>103314968
I mean for gaming
>>103315008
what about 3440p monitor vs 2560p monitor?
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So I'm betting 10 months before a "Ti Super" situation where we they announce better models with more VRAM.
And of course one of the lower end ones again gets a clam shell duck tape solution before that because they're not selling, within 3 months.
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Worth going for the ASRock Taichi Lite over the Nova or Steel Legend? There's a 20€ price difference between Taichi Lite and Nova (~400€), while the Steel Legend is much cheaper at about 260€.

I like overclocking so I think I might enjoy playing around with the external clock gen on the Taichi (never had one before), but am not sure how fun Zen 5 is to fuck around with. Apparently 9800x3D has good OC capabilities?
Nova seems pointless at this price point so if OCing isn't fun nor worth it, might as well spare all the cash and get the Steel Legend.
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>>103315700
No
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>>103315735
2560x1440 is just a 16:9 uw 3440 tho

>>103315737
buy 5090 simple as
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>>103315737
some chink leaker claims something along the lines of RTX 50 Super Ti XYZBBQ+ renditions
it's an obvious grift
just like with RTX 40, you can choose between being a sucker by paying out the ass for the top tier model, or being a sucker by buying the scrap silicon lower tier models
no way to win unless you're so rich that being set back nearly 3 grand is about as much of an issue to you as scratching your ass, in which case congrats, you're one in a thousand dudes that gets to have good graphics
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>>103315737
5080 will get price reduction super with no change
5070 and 60 will get 3gb gddr7 module supers
That is all
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>>103314818
>rgb
>says heck four times in three sentences
Go back to plebbit you gigafaggot
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Any reason I shouldn't buy the NZXT C1500 if the 850 PSUs (seasonic Prime / be quiet dark power 13) are the same price?
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>>103315758
care to elaborate?
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>>103315842
Pissing money away for old parts, not much to elaborate on
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>>103315887
You might have a point if the 12th gen parts weren't so discounted
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is it time to abandon dsc and go full LG C4 compressionless full 48gbps HDMI 2.1 goodness?
dsc handshake issues, alt tab times, black screens, needing dsc off switch for super resolution
is it over qdoledmonitorbros?
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>>103315919
Given that it's across monitors from different vendors it looks like more of an implementation issue.
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>>103315942
* on the GPU side
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>>103315960
Njudea side
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>>103315700
Maybe, but why not choose amd instead?
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>>103315942
not even C4bros are safe... it's over
low quality HDMI 2.1 cables and interference could be a possibility
it's over
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>5700x3d Tray for $195
Will it get any cheaper soon? Or should I buy now? Upgrading from a 3600x
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>>103316157
It will run out before it gets cheaper
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im a guy that still buys CD's and stuff, what's a good software to replace the itunes I once used and organize per album/artist/whatever?
[spoiler]also a good music player app for my phone as well[/spoiler]
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>>103316197
Gotcha. Buying asap. This shit got inflated to $250 in my shithole last month
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>>103316267
Not a /pcbg/ question, but foobar2000
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>>103315731
>check aliexpress
>only like 20-30 euros cheaper than buying it from a local webshop
nah fuck that shit
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No one really replied last thread
https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4730622&cm_sp=product-combooption
How does this combo look for an upgrade to an old system?
idk how good the processor as, I'm not really gaming on it.
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>>103315887
vs pissing away money on new parts that don't live up to expectations at best and are ticking time bombs at worst?

>>103315993
I actually want to because I fundamentally dislike Intel, but
>more cores for less money vs am5 (yes I know cores don't equal more performance especially with how far apart these generations are)
>I know am4 is slightly better and cheaper but also eol, can't drop am5 into am4 board but can upgrade to 13/14th in the future if they get their shit together or they don't and the cpus become cheap enough to be disposable
>z boards have slightly more features for the same price, even the equivalent models
>quicksync and av1 without needing an arc card for muh aminays
>also don't have to get a lower end compromise cpu for that igpu
my only real reservation is it sending my air conditioning bill through the roof since we all know how crazy power hungry they are.
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>Thinking of falling for the mini-ITX meme with a 9800x3d and 5080/90
How stupid would this be for a gaming rig in terms of thermals? On one hand, the mobo / case / psu I would need aren't that much more expensive, and I like the idea of being able to fit it in my suitcase for when I move to wherever I'm going to grad school next year, but on the other hand I don't want to gimp myself just for a convenience that won't be used that much.
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>>103316338
It's kind of regular price. And X3Ds are for gaming.

>>103316402
You can tell yourself what you want to hear, you don't need us for that.
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>Your order has shipped!
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>>103316299
well Im aksing because im planning to build pc but I guess you are right, thanks bro though

also in my defense you guys in this general are probably among the last actual group of bros that are actually useful and helpful in /g/
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990 PRO
KC3000
Fury Renegade
SN850X

all 4TB

is the samsung the best drive overall? WHY?

I'm gonna cope and seethe another missed deal..
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>>103316463
>I don't want to gimp myself just for a convenience that won't be used that much
More like you're thermally gimping your best of the best expensive hardware with a tiny box for one move.
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Aight /g/, r8 it.
>9800X3D
>GIGABYTE 7900 XTX
>ASUS TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI AMD
>CORSAIR VENGEANCE DDR5 RAM 32GB
>Phantom Spirit 120 SE Black
>2TB SAMSUNG 990 PRO
>CORSAIR 850W RMx
>All in the black Fractal North with appropriate case fans
Aiming for Nobara Linux, 1440p. Surely THIS can run MH Wilds well enough.
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>mfw buying a soldering station + hot air station + fume extractor + digital microscope + supplies + a broken gpu and teaching myself basic electronic repair is unironically cheaper than buying a functioning used gpu
>mfw buying a broken 4090, desoldering the core and VRAM and transplanting it on a stripped down chinese 4090 pcb is more than 2x cheaper than buying a used 4090
lmao even
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>>103316465
yes, I will keep telling myself not to buy overpriced underperforming and factory defective parts that will fail out of the blue for no reason. fucking self righteous dipshit.
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>>103316580
gygashite is a bad aib and what you posted as ram means fuck all.
just make sure to oc/uv the card.
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>>103311834
>ASRock B650M-HDV/M2
What's the difference between this and ASROCK B650M-H/M2
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>>103316556
But do I really need the "best" cooling solutions with a low TDP chip like the 9800x3d? Can't I undervolt too and lose basically no performance? Assuming I even need to undervolt.
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>>103316690
No IO shield, worse power phases, 1x less PCIE slot, fewer USB ports, slower wired networking.
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>>103315766
so is the picture quality noticably different? like sharper resolution?
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>b650 steel legend backorder on amazon estimated for early January
SURELY it arrives before then right? Haha.. All my other parts are sitting here now
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>>103314456
>>103314481
>>103314512
>>103313936
>>103313995
Ok boys, I think I'm going with this. It needs to be quiet because it will be in the recording room, so it gets a huge air cooler. The MB has a ton of ports for interfaces, DACs, etc. 12 cores should be enough for her cubase shenanigans. $1100

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9dyHh7
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>>103316747
depends on the monitor size, the panel type, the coating
34 uw is like 27 I guess
if you want sharper you want higher res and more ppi too...
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>>103316888
so 34UW is the same image quality as 27 in 1440p display?

but it can't just be about ppi, right? because a 24 inch 4k monitor has a high PPI but isn't any visually better than a 32 in 4k monitor despite having a higher PPI
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Should I upgrade my ryzen 5 2600x to a 7 5700x?

Reasons for not going 5800x3d or other: I'm broke, I don't do crazy gaming or VMs or anything, I keep my computer running near 24/7 for Plex streaming. It's only $130 USD on Amazon right now. Worth?
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>>103317014
Why did you not get 5700x3d for $140 on 11.11?
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test
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Okay, what the fuck, I am trying to ask a question about my new build and no matter how I phrase it, 4chan is shadow banning the post but I can post anything else.
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>>103317014
see how much more you can get a 5700X3D from aliexpress for
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>>103317097
screenshot it and post it as an image
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>>103316993
Yeah, 34'' UW has the same pixel density as 27'' 16:9. It isn't exactly about PPI but rather about PPD, which is roughly PPI multiplied by the distance between your eyes and the monitor. If you sit as far from the UW display as you would from the 16:9, they'll appear as smooth. A 34'' UW panel is basically a widened 27'' one.
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>>103316585
it's a skill we should all consider obtaining with how hard the consumer electronics market is about to get fucked during the imminent geostrategic boomer shitflinging contest. becoming a repairGOD might be the only way to maintain a decent standard of personal tech until the boomer generation has gone fully extinct and the world can cooperate again. especially for us europoors who are sure to get gonzo dp'd by both east and west.
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should I get a 4k OLED now or wait till the 5090 actually comes out? did those new ones with the better pixel layout come out yet too?
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I'm a Radeon newbie with my first RX 6750 card. I keep reading about HYPR RX being this almost miraculous setting in Adrenaline but I just have HYPR RX Eco, no the "Eco"-less one.

Are they the same thing in the end?
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>>103317070
Was not aware of that deal

>>103317104
Most are about $160 on ali right now, not counting a coupon for a little bit off. There is one seller from turkey selling for $83, but I'm going to assume that's fake.
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>>103317142
I wouldn't even call it a skill at this point. I've managed to get 4 out of the 5 cheapo cards that I ordered up and running, including a 2060.
You literally just diddle the pcb with your multimeter until you see an anomaly, you check the schematic and follow the current line until you find the source of the problem (it's a short 90% of the time) and you replace the faulty component that usually costs less than the $5 shipping cost and done.
Even all the hair thin traces running in one of the pcb layers can be repaired if your fine motor skills aren't dogshit.
It's piss easy monkey brain work.
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>>103317167
>I keep reading about HYPR RX being this almost miraculous setting in Adrenaline
where the fuck did you read that, AMD press material?
literally all it does is turn on a bunch of settings for you
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>>103317154
If you can afford a 5090 might as well wait as 27" 4K models will be out fairly soon according to leaks (probably announcements at CES) that should massively increase PPI clarity. Some models should also finally be DisplayPort 2.1 UHBR20 compliant so full 4k@240Hz without DSC shenanigans.
https://tftcentral.co.uk/news/oled-news-and-rumours-round-up-for-2025
https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1732515294
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Will this work with my new modem
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>>103317314
cool. thanks for the info. no reason not to wait then
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>>103317154
>>103317314
Also Samsung will be first with a 27" 4K model with better color gamut/volume from QD but it still expected to be triangle-RGB. LG's true RGB 4K 27" panel will be much later in 2025 and unless they go full tandem may still suffer worse color performance. Also @ 16- PPI the text fringing from non-RGB subpixel rendering on Samsung's panels may finally be completely fixed as it was already noted to be neglible on the 32" 4K models this year.
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>Get a QD-OLED
>Can't even have the stupid RGB in my keyboard turned on because it directly reflects against the screen like a mirror
I wish you guys had warned me about this. I should've gotten WOLED.
You'd think these monitor review channels would show what something as simple as keyboard lights can do on these screens instead of just using a fuck you huge industrial light.
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What's the difference between the most common consumer M.2 SSDs right now?

When I bought my Samsung 850 Pro many years ago it was far and away the best you could buy in terms of controller and memory tech. Is the difference as large now between Samsung and the rest?
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>>103316776
Day 17 of waiting for Ali express here lol
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>>103316580
>GIGABYTE 7900 XTX
If it's the gaming PC the cooler and PCB is shit get the nitro or pulse has extra power connector and way better oc
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I cannot see the difference between 4K and my previous 1080p montior and I cannot see the difference between 144HZ and 240 HZ.
Holy shit I wasted my money lol...
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>calculated my estimated income and expenditures over the next month
>I'll have about $3200 by the start of January after paying my bills
Hope that'll be enough to grab a 5090. I'll have to save the other PC parts for after I acquire it.
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should I see microsoft pluton in newer AMD CPUs as a potential privacy threat or am I being paranoid?
ME/PSP are one thing but having microsoft silicon inside your computer kind of seems like it would especially defeat the point of running linux
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>>103317352
>I can see myself in the reflection when most of the screen is black
I cannot understate how much I regret this holy fuck.
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>>103317441
increased pixel density should be plenty obvious to see. did you upgrade from a small 1080p monitor to a huge 4k one?
as for refresh rate, I'm pretty sure benefits over, say, 144hz mostly relate to things you can't see but can benefit from in niche cases such as lower latency
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>>103317352
>>103317487
This is why having a matte screen is always the most important part for me.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TE8p7mbqF6I
Building an office PC for my mum the old ones dying gonna turn it into a file server this good?
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>>103313567
Sorry, Trump just confirmed he's adding more 10% tariffs on China imports and 25% for Canada and Mexico imports.
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>>103317453
>paying $2000+ to beta test a more than likely faulty product
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>>103316857
Check the noise rating for the PSU if you need a silent system.
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/2/
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>>103317498
a lot of people say that any monitor with a matte coating is, to them, dead on arrival, and then there's your post
I'm so confused
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>>103317441
Opposite for me. I'm so attuned to the 4k desktop experience that 1440p is annoying and 1080p is outright painful. Everyone perceives pixels a bit differently I suppose.
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My eyes are not used to this
I always thought my system wasn't super responsive, but I know why now, and it isn't no longer
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>>103317623
I got the UCDM today and I think you made the right choice.
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>Antec Flux Pro
>NZXT C1000 Gold
>ASRock B650M-HDV
>CORSAIR Vengeance DDR5 RAM 32GB
>Thermalright Frozen Edge 360
>SAMSUNG 990 PRO SSD 4TB
pretty good blackcyber w/e season buying though it will be sitting in the corner till I get a 9800x3D and whatever GPU looks good Q1/2 next year (let's hope the 5090 doesn't go too much over 2k)
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>>103317637
I mainly bought it for the 480hz mode, I think that did point me to the right panel. the QD version is probably great if you want to be a hermit but that isn't me
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Since 4chan keep automatically deleting this post for some reason. I am going to screenshot it like the other Anon said.
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>>103317807
did you set it as the boot drive in Bios
also a selector sometimes shows up and lets you pick a boot drive
kinda sounds like some shenanigans happened where your MBR was on a separate drive from the OS
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>>103317487
I'm waiting® for my MSI QD-OLED monitor to be shipped, should I cancel it and join The Republic™?
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>>103317851
I wouldn't be worried about the brand, I have had the same amount of problems (not 0 but few) with MSI as with ASUS, the concern should be the QD vs WOLED.
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My configuration has:
>8.4% of processor bottleneck
>14.7% of graphic card bottleneck
According to this site: https://pc-builds.com/bottleneck-calculator

Should I be worried?
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>>103317850
Well, that's the thing. I have dual booted before, recently even, and in those cases it's always shown me both drives I could log into after booting. Here it isn't showing the other drive that I transferred; it's just showing the new one. I am also not sure how the MBR would somehow just not be on my main drive. Right now it's mainly just a huge annoyance because I have redownload everything, activate it, etc. onto this new drive. The outcome is actually since since the new drive is the same one as the old drive.
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It's occurring to me that the problem might not be the QD OLED, but the fact that I was using a 9-year-old TN panel before and maybe it just didn't reflect shit at all the way more modern panel types do. I'm looking at videos of WOLED again and I think you can still see stuff reflected in them it's just smudged out more and more importantly won't raise black levels. Soo I think I've been unintentionally spreading FUD the last thirty minutes.
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>>103317879
no
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https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-arc-b580-battlemage-gpu-leak-confirms-20-xe2-cores-12gb-vram-and-2-85-ghz-clock

INTEL WON

THANK YOU INTEL
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With B850s coming next year I am looking for a cheap MB to hold me over for my new gaming rig until then. Is getting a B650M-B suitable for this or is there something better?
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>>103317869
ROG XG27AQDMG is a WOLED monitor, I'm concerned with the text fringing of it.
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>>103317919
uhh.. i was hoping for a more "complete" answer...
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How real do you find OLED's reputation for eye strain to be? I'm mostly worried about flickering-related issues
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>>103317962
>>103317962
>>103317962
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>>103317487
I guess I dodged a bullet then. I remember finding the idea of a glossy screen absolutely insane on a fucking monitor that you'll be like 18-24 inches from AND you will probably have glow from other monitors if you aren't a single monitor retard. I bought the Asus because it's literally the highest rated 4K OLED regardless of type, and it has matte.
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>>103312173
Mine came in yesterday
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>>103316402
Go am4 and you’ll be able to upgrade to x3d for a good while. Saying am4 is eol is a weird thing to say when thinking about 12th gen and constrained be budget. I do think 12th gen remains a valid option though.
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Thoughts on this build? Going for 1440p gaming, but I really to play a whole lot of super new AAA games. I already have the gpu, so my aim is to future proof everything surrounding the gpu then upgrade that when the 50series launches. If the 50series is as disappointing as the 40 series I think ill just look for a used 4070 ti super and then just not upgrade again for like a decade (please let me know if this is retarded).

Does anyone know if the NZXT H7 Flow is a good case? Originally I was going to go with the Laincool 216 ATX cause I saw it recommended here, but the H7 Flow is on sale for a better price.

Is the power supply good? Originally I was going to get a 750W one but then I noticed this 850W one was on sale for nearly the same price and just figured why not.

Is there a way to know if this CPU cooler will be enough? I just got it from the OP and its cheaper than the AIO options.

Thanks m8s
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>>103317921
See OP
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>>103318048
You could bump that CPU down to a 7800X3D and get a meatier GPU.
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>>103318127
the 7800x3d and the 9800x3d are nearly the same price arnt they? I figured i might as well get the newer one if its only about $50 more. As for the gpu I dont want amd since I want to do blender and stable diffusion. The only reasonably priced Nvidia one to me seems like the 3060 12gb, but I dont really like that it would be a downgrade from my current card. Thats why I said I want to wait for the 50 series and just buy a used 4070ti super since it looks like it has the most vram and also isnt over $1000 dollars. But if there were another gpu youd recommend let me know, im not super worried about price I just dont like getting screwed by jewvidia
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>>103312683
does it also listen when you're having sex (with your hand)?
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>>103316857
If you need fuck ton of ports, consider asrock b650 livemixer. Also, there is arctic p12/p14 (max) if you want budget fans. Buy a lot of fans for rendering something like a 5 pack.
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>>103317963
I'm one of the few people that can't look at LEDs so modern LCD monitors are a torture for me while OLED is perfectly fine, same for old CCFL
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>>103318805
That's excellent to know, even if I probably shouldn't assume it works the same for everyone



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