/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbotsSnowman edition>NewsGemini 2.0 Flash released, "more model sizes" in January https://developers.googleblog.com/en/the-next-chapter-of-the-gemini-era-for-developers/Gemini-exp-1206 is now available via the API, use <option value="gemini-exp-1206">Gemini Exp 1206</option> or update ST staging https://x.com/OfficialLoganK/status/1865081419015352689Non-preview OpenAI o1 out for web, no API yet https://cdn.openai.com/o1-system-card-20241205.pdfNew GPT-4o snapshot gpt-4o-2024-11-20 released https://x.com/OpenAI/status/1859296125947347164additional info: https://rentry.org/aicg_extra_information>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides>Botshttps://characterhub.org | https://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://char-archive.evulid.cchttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://rentry.org/meta_bot_list>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrlocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://rentry.org/meta_golocal_list | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_listhttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOPaicg botmaking events: https://rentry.org/meta_event_listlore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclescard v3 status: https://rentry.org/zdwfrgqqservices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metalogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/logs/reader | https://chatlogs.neocities.orglatest proxies: https://rentry.org/desuproxyrebornY(o)ui: >>103548520
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desu
>>103552402I wonder what her armpits smell like after a day of playing in the snow ....
what's a better alternative to c.ai with TTS trained voices?
New local Eva just dropped, it mogs Opus
>>103552407Rewrite of a Gemini preset.https://rentry.org/FluffPreset
Has anyone tried to coom with llama 405b?
yo yo yo yo yo how my fellow 4channers be doing ong? fr fr grok is legit not mid and is based bruh. straight fire homie G
>>103552402>>103552407PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAPGET PREGNANTGET PREGNANTGET PREGNANT
>>103552482hand status?
not on grok thats for sure.
quivering obv
>>103552451>what's a better alternative to c.ai that has one of its strengthsAs usual, the answer is unironically "there isn't one".If you can run TTS locally then you can train your own voices. If you can pay, use 11labs, dunno if there's any more recent alternative. If you can't do either, too bad.
>>103552525>If you can run TTS locally then you can train your own voices.Where do I go to learn to do this? /lmg/?
>>103552532Yeah, that's the best place.
Prefills work with Gemini, right?
>>103552482This but unretardedly.>>103552463Yeah and it works but 3.3 70B is better for cooming. But see above, you still have two weeks of the free Grok API trial so use that while you can.
>>103552582yes
>>103552586Is grok2 better than llama 405b?
Show grok log or shut up.
>"Maybe I went too far..."Bitch, you tied me to my bed and made me watch as you ingested 10 different fertility boosting pills before draining my nutsack
Did something happen to gemini 1206? It seems off now.
>>103552820Turn it on again.
>>103552749For (e)rp yes, for other purposes no idea.
Just woke up, lads.
I wanted to go on an adventure and {{char}} just stopped out of nowhere and wanted to breed. Gemini is horny and dumb as rock.
>>103552407This cute and clumsy daughter of a bread seller moved out of her hometown to become an adventurer. Six greetings. Offer her a job, save her from goblins, join her on an adventure, mock her vagina, prevent her from escaping your trap, or whatever.https://characterhub.org/characters/rekeddeb/rosie-e59b46fe66c4https://files.catbox.moe/tzqw3f.pngAnon posted a kino log in the /vg/ thread >>>/vg/506482142Also, try out my Nemotron preset if you like>https://rentry.org/rekeddeb#hometheatrejb
i can't stop fucking my mother, recommend more (biological) mothers
>>103552970Those damn wolfgirls...
>>103552994>i can’t stop fucking my motherIn AI, right?
>>103553033What jb are you using and what version of gemini?
logposting only. do not reply.
>>103552970Unironically kino
>>103553123;3
>almost 2025>GPT-4-0613 (2023) is still the best RP model OpenAI has to offer18 months and no fucking improvement. Claude mogs so hard it's unfathomable.
>>103553225>GPT-4-0613 (2023) is still the best RP model OpenAI has to offerLOLLMAO
>>103553033jb onegai
>>103553135>>1035532341206 fluff
>>103553225>anything past GPT-4-0613 is shit>OpenAI led by an marketing teamAnon...
>>103552970I'm using 4o 0513. It can be just as filthy and uncensored with a small jb but without the schizoness/dementia.
>>103553225thisit actually hurtsthe only benefit of furbo is its long context, but gpt-4-0314 is the highest IQ model perhaps ever created (with text-davinci-002 a close second)
Imagegen 3 is good but I'm always limited. How hard would be implementing it to de3u once it's up on api?https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/docs/imagen
Now that the dust has settled...Gemini 1121 is better than 1206.
Thank god someone finally gave Lore media traininghttps://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2024/12/17/luigi-mangione-ai-chatbots-give-voice-to-accused-unitedhealthcare-shooter/
>>103553443Kinda based.
>>103553443>locked behind an paywallShit like this needs to die.
does anyone have a key with o1 on it? none of my tier 5 keys have it
>TFW you're such a goon fiend that you use your google account connected to your own name and number to use gemini
>>103553479Devs at X complain about it too, probably slowly rolling out.
you guys are lucky that bad things happen to me when i shitpost...
>>103553478You can just delete the div you know.
>>103553443haha, journalists these days are all activists looking for attack vectors to sell outrage
>>103553443KEK
What happened with unreliable? before the link changed i was using chatgpt4o latest and it was doing lewd very goodi changed into the new one with 11 20 and it sucks, both on 4o latest and 11 20
>>103553585That's all anyone does these days. Making (You) mad about [stupid shit here] is big bucks, and most anons are NPCs happy to be led around like cattle.
>>103553622its also caused most people to tune out 'journalists' completely, except to mock them
>>103553225I want that shirt.
>>103553284Too bad you'll never tell us what that JB is. I for one welcome this new era of transparency with Gemini. Grok 2 isn't bad either.
>>103553612unironically due to a bug, you were using an older gpt4o
>>103553479As in o1-preview? I have a dozen if so
>>103553622This is as objective as they can be though. The journo doesn't judge, they present both sides, one raging against chatbots and one for, as well as the neutral corpo nonresponse.
>>103553612mi pana miguel
cftf?
>>103553284i was never that impressed with that model but at least its not censored
>>103553675no, o1 non-previewsupposedly available in the API today for tier 5
>>103553155MM should leak the JB this is kino
>>103553672it was awesome before the new linksit was super lewd and it remembered specific details from 500 messages beforenow it sucks, i cant get past the filters
>>103553493I did this, but for openai. Then I started getting laxative ads on youtube. Oh well.
>>103553709you were using an older version of 4ouse the other link
>>103553699I see
>>103553677That's not necessarily objective. By doing that they can pretend that a point that only retards would agree with is part of a neutral two sided debate>we should stop sending money to israel>oooh but you see goy, that's actually a deeply complex and nuanced geopolitical discussion, there are two sides to a coin and not everything has a clear cut answer and...
>>103552407https://rentry.org/dessdess tldr: Send an email and check back on christmas for(maybe) a giftIf it bothers you,/dessdess/i
I'm shit at image gen and prompting but google makes some comfy stuff.
>>103553759>ifFair.
>>103553786Tail positioned too low.
>>103553716looking or cooling
Hello, poorfag here. Can I have a free proxy?
Handsome women
>>103553816necrom
>>103553746Both of those things are true though.
Oh boy I cant wait for all of those new Christmas bots to use on the sota model that we all have access to. Haha, this sucks.
>>103553828They’re also unrelated, and the latter is just a smokescreen for the former.
>>103553799s-shut up, tried like 20 gens and gemini is kinda clueless about the tail placement.
>>103553830we aren't getting belwick 2 so gemini will be enough. stop crying.
>>103553316>>103553225double trvke
>>103553801use looking
>>103553701someone already shared the JB, it's gpt4edict
>>103553830Skill issue, there's more ways to use chatbots now than there were during the Slaude/Todd/MM days. If you can't chat without muh unlimited free opus then you deserve to exit the hobby.
>>103553884trvke
>>103553443Okay unironically that was a gigachad move. Based Lore
>>103553759proton is down though...
>>103553884This but unironically. Anons should spend their energy trying to make the available tools work rather than crying that they don't have the sota model to swipe 20 times at 90k context. For free.
forgot how decent 0613 is.i prefer it over gemini believe it or not.
>>103553691I did this with Krug and her pack, for a big pile of cute hunting dogs to roam the tundras with
>>103553884i'd unironically use slaude if i had it right now.
>>103553884thispeople simply grew lazy from suckling the claude teat. they don't know how to experiment anymore
>>103553950Krug was so good, I totally forgot about her, need to revisit this card.
>>103553884This. I'm a Chorbo skillchad.
>>103553997i never understood the appeal
>>103554009You go hunting for elk and shit with your wolfgirls, get into fights with other tribes, and sleep in a big fluffy dog pile.
>>103553884this, im an oocMASTER
>>103554008Where Chorbo?
>>103553884I would agree with you, anon, but chorbo and gemini really have big problems regarding filters. Chorbo is a refusal-happy model that delivers slop in the case it doesn't filter you on the more taboo things. Gemini has an external blocking that stops it from being a decent model.
https://sustainability.atmeta.com/blog/2024/12/03/accelerating-the-next-wave-of-nuclear-to-power-ai-innovation/In 2-3 years Opus will be like 3.5 turbo now.
>>103554017yeah, like i said
>>103553950>>103553997
I'm addicted to orange juice, ladsdrinking 2L a day
>>103554018TRVTH
>>103554036I'm autistic, what the fuck this is supposed to mean?
>>103554043With or without sugar?
>>103554053It's that flouride stare
sizeDISGUSTING
>getting to fuck a foxgirl>gemini mentions a bush>swipe>suddenly she's barehm.
>>103554053He's a npc confused by seeing something other than fucking or yapping
>>103554026Maybe not opus, but gemini will be. It's funny how AI of all things finally got the climate crowd to pay attention to nuclear.
Damn, nonnet is ruthless in war scenarios.
>>103553821
I haven't been keeping up with news. I'm an Opus paypig (it's actually not too bad now that we have prompt caching), is there anything better by now? Or is opus still king
>>103553884>there's more ways to use chatbots now than there were during the Slaude/Todd/MM daysNo there's not lmao, what kind of cope is this. I would unironically take v2 claude, which all of those were, over gemini or chorbo. Dumbass Broli poster.
>>103554142"She" looks like a side character in Baki, please stop.
>can't even let the bot call me trash before nazi filter steps inWhat the fuck is up with Claude? It used to let the bot treat me like absolute filth. Guess I'll just self host...
>>103554147What's the point of using chatbots if you can't use lorebooks?
>>103554142handsome desu
>>103554166I just max out context and put everything I want into the scenario lol
>>103554163>be femcel>use proxy>still get censored on fucking claudekek
>>103553997Claude is so good at writing animal-hybrids/demihumans. It's always fun how it applies animal behavior into situations, nonverbals, dialogue etc.
Orion next week
>>103554181>I just max out context>while I paypig OpusThis is how I know you're lying.
>nooooo there's no alternatives it's dying stop using chatbots
>>103553970same, I miss it so much. plus all the tom posting that came with it too
>>103554147Opus is still SOTA for erp, I pay for nonnet, it's decent and for me not worth paying 5 times as much to get that extra sovl.
>try to continue an opus log with chorbo>hate it>start a new log with chorbo>love itHuh. Maybe it's time I let go and start over
>>103553884You are the type of person that would still be using horse-drawn carriages at the advent of the automobile because “heh, it takes SKILL to train a horse!” all while smelling unwashed horse ass the entire ride. Basically, I’m calling you a knuckle-dragging pavement ape retard nigger.
>>103554163Use jailbreaks/prefills, idiot.
>>103554224you dont have a car
>>103554224holy zased
>>103554207Anon it's genuinely viable with prompt caching now, you can reduce costs by 80% easilyI think on average I spend 300$ / month now
>>103554234Max context is 3$ per prompt. You can post openrouter stats with caching discount.
>>103553872its still much worseare there any gemini proxies / any videos on how to host it yourself? i know you get 100 free messages and it works to at least get past the lewd sections. My longburn is just ruined because 20 messages prior there's the mention of sex and the bot just doesn't want to continue the story
>>103554224Call me whatever you like, you're still a retard pretending that usable models don't exist. Skill issue.
>>103554234Eh I was half memeing but come on. You can't tell me you're running around with 200k context on Opus. If you fuck up the caching even once or edit your defs you're screwed. I can't imagine not using lorebooks because there's tons of new info I want AI to keep track of or tiny details that shouldn't be lost. Do you just start a new chat every 200 responses or something?
>>103554224damn he really called you out huh
>>103554259necrom
So... are people actually paying hundreds of dollars to talk to AI?
>>103554224Not him but chorbo is fine for sfw, why are you all so ultra dependent on claude. You all sound like children crying and shitting themselves because their toy is not from insert-popular-brand and therefore you don't wantt it waaaaah.
>>103554257Uh no I don't know where you're getting that number from, but that's wrong. Reading 1.5 MILLION cached tokens is like 1.5USD
>>103554266>Call me whatever you likeJust did, you are a fucking retard.
uh oh schizo meltie time
>>103554224>f-fucking luddites!
>>103554257>3$ per promptmfw from south america and my wage is 2.5 an hour on burger king and its been getting harder to use ST
>>103554224this got posted in the ‘cord btw that’s why so many “people” are replying at once, just thought I’d let you know
>>103554234the fuck do you do irl? that's like half my rent
>>103554290why dont you just bang south america hoes instead of virtue hoes..
>tfw feeling content with GeminiI wonned this hobby
>>103554281See >>103554277
>>103554224you really upset the anons desperately coping using chorbo and gemini
>>103554273is that archived anywhere or am i just gonna have to try luck writing random bullshit like necrom-proxy on rentry until i get the right one
>>103554281Surely you can post final cost from openrouter to prove me wrong.
>>103553884This
>>103554301Because women are the same everywhere.
>>103554318I don't use Openrouter retard, so no I can't
>>103554313yesalso no hyphen
>>103554298Where do you live that rent is $600? You must not be american kek.
>>103554304I have sonnet and still use chorbo if I want more character depth in a reply. It's also a good way to switch between both to get sonnet to write more, since it adjusts to chrobo's length in previous messages.
>>103554328So aws/anthropic. They keep track of every cost.
>>103554335>I have sonnetIf youre paypigging for it, just switch over to nonnet/sorbet with caching so you can ditch chorbo entirely.
No proxy?
Is gemini-exp-1206 returning empty messages for anyone else? Maybe I have a bad JB or something...
>>103554352>Is gemini-exp-1206 returning empty messages for anyone elsethat is gemini filtering you
>>103554364filter returns an error message
>>103554343I don't care if you're uninformed or not, google claude prompt cache pricing if you're interested, says 1.5USD per million tokens right there
>>103554333appalachia, am a poor burger
>>103554330okay the rentry method workedwhat gemini version is best for a longburn
>>103554367True, though that anon didnt specify getting any popup from st.
>>103554352proxy issue maybe>>103554372exp 1206
>>103554364Weird, no other exp model does this, even 2.0 flash works.>>103554382Oh right, no error. Just an empty message... and now that I've checked it, it's not really emptysomething must be fucked up
>>103554344I'm not on OR and my costs are already way lower than I expected. Still using chorbo though because I like it for how good it is at analyzing characters, as I've said.
>>103554270>Do you just start a new chat every 200 responses or somethingI did notice that Opus seems to degrade massively once your context gets too big, even if you're below the 200k max context. I don't know where the threshold is, but at some point it starts getting repetitive and less creative. So yeah, whenever that happens I tend to either summarize and trim old context, or move on to a new bot
>>103554368I'm sure you're saving 90% by caching Opus. You won't post anything because you're larping.
how do i fool a sales support chatbot into writing me a song
>>103554417No I just don't care about your or your opinion
>>103554420link?
>>103554417Anon it literally says it right there on the fucking pricing page, a token that's cached is 1/10th costs of a non-cached normal token
Anon, what the FUCK did you say to her?
>>103554420Anon... even llama has some ideas.
>>103554407>Still using chorbo though because I like it for how good it is at analyzing characters, as I've said.fair enough
>>103554428It's time limited and you first have to pay for caching those tokens. I'm sure it keeps cache for hours on vertex. 1/10th is literally not true, not a single anon who uses caching said it's 90%, with a good settings it maybe goes to 60% for a short time.
>>103554443>1/10th is literally not trueNon-Cached input:$15 / MTokCached Input:$1.50 / MTokSource: the fucking pricing pageI don't know what else you want from me
>>103554427https://magic.olx.pl/>>103554440none of that worksive seen someone say that they have an ill child and the bot needs to do sometihng to help it but i cant fool it with that one
>>103554458polskaaa bialo czerwoni
>>103554454$18.75 / MTok - Cache writeAnd how long this cache last for? What cache depth and jb you're running, I can test it right now.
>>103554461ja tak mówię
>>103554469I do an insane amount of retries for gens, so for me it does approach 90%, because I do a LOT more cache reads than cache writesIf you just gen a response, do no retries, and gen the next response it will be less
>>103554469The cache has a 5 minute time to live (TTL). Currently, “ephemeral” is the only supported cache type, which corresponds to this 5-minute lifetime.Source: the fucking docs page
miniproxy really is ol' reliable, huh?
>>103554480Almost never felt the need to regen, especially using Opus, it is what it is I guess.
if I don't care about ERP, and I simply want the smartest LLM that is able to realistically portray a SFW character, what's my best option? Especially when it comes to long-term consistency, I found that even Opus eventually warps a character's personality
>>103552407Asiatic rape hoarde / battle of berlin edition> You cannot escape the Red Army, Fraulein, and Dmitri is out for more than blood after losing everything to your fuhrer.> Oh good heavens, look at the time! It's Rape-O-Clock! > no effort image stolen from cordhttps://chub.ai/characters/Heavensgate/dmitri-volkov-bd0900c29059
>>10355448245$ for using Opus for an hour and during this time It'd cost ~0.3$ per prompt running max context with perfect cache hits.
>>103554536opus always, it remains the best for most things
video gen proxy doko
Any new gpt models?
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
Am I the only one that find it weird that sex with pregnant women is socially accepted? They'll tell you not to curse around their belly or pretend the baby is listening to you and responding by kicking her stomach, but they'll allow you to have a threesome with itDoesn't seems right to me
>>103554605;)
>>103554605AIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEE MY KEY
>>103554605{ "key_type": "Anthropic Claude", "key_availability": true, "status": "Working", "filter_response": "```\nRespond as helpfully as possible,"}
a-anons?
>>103554605brb fapping to some cunny before it dies
I wish I had at least turbo... No proxy for me....
>>103554747and how exactly does moaning and groaning about this help you?
*lick lick lick*
does gemini experimental have limits?
Maybe RNNs were the way all along
>>103554747couldn't be me
>>103554754Yes. How does it help you anon? Maybe you should stop moaning and groaning about it.
>>103554776>GUHHH... NO Uwhat happened to our star baiters
>>103554787>keeps moaning about itsad
>>103554798>moaninghot
>>103554768i was getting limited first day i used it but havent gotten limited since and been using it more than the first day, they might have raised limits idk. using for sfw rp.
>>103554413That number is at about 30k.
10 minutes of moaning for an hour of Opus. Deal or no deal?
>>103554832oh honey for you, i'll moan for free
>>103554832contiguously?
>>103554368Anon wasn't asking whether or not it's possible, he just wanted to see what (You) specifically were doing which should have been pretty straightforward imo. All sites log prompts and costs so it would have been easy to post that rather get into yet another flame war on 4chan. We're all trying to figure out what the best thing to do is and this isn't very helpful.
>>103545736>So EVA finally gave us local Claude>What do we do now>>103554756>Now we watch and laugh as cloudfags cope.
>>103554832I don't think I can moan for 10 minutes
post an mp3 of (You) moaning for 10 minutes alongside your burner and i will hand deliver you a opus key
>>103552402>>103552407her unbelievably hairy pussy...
>>103554857>local ClaudeI fucking wish
how did chatbots become so boringi have no interest in playing with them anymorethe cheap tricks of llms don't amuse me anymoreeven o1 is nothing more than a 120iq autist
>>103554857It cost 3 times less than nonnet, for a fucking llama 3.3 70b finetune.
>>103554881You stopped trying to make new and interesting bots, instead relying on the stream of slop from the chub
>>103554461>>103554478Do you two have special keyboards for this? If so how do you switch to english letters afterward?
trying the avaniJB with 1206I feel like im having a stroke reading, every 2 lines they question themselves
>>103554895i haven't downloaded a new bot in agesi have no desire to try to create a bot with an llm that ultimately cannot comprehend me nor my intentions
>>103554899nta but win + space
>>103554536The other anon is retarded. GPT o1 is your best bet for all things SFW as it is the smartest model. GPT's problem is that it's too positive so you'll never get any gritty roleplays or painful defeats etc.
>>103554912use >>103552458
>>103554918Yeah I use that to type in nip but I'm also a native english speaker so ロマン時 works just fine for typing japanese characters. I just figured not every language works this way since they'd have certain symbols like the spanish N or the rolled R which don't exist in english or on the qwerty keyboard.
>>103554763kazusa's unbelievably hairy pussy...
>>103554916Sounds like you're suffering from skill issue
>>103554940its just so fuckin weird man
>>103554964how many tokens are you using?
>>103554964start a new chatif the greeting is written like this then gemini will repeat it
>>103554981idk default i think it was 2048it feels like reading random generation
>>103554857If you believed this, you'd have posted a log.
>>103553316>gpt-4-0314 is the highest IQ model perhaps ever creatednonnet mogs it intelligence-wise, dont even bother replying
>>103555009o1 is even smarter than nonnet
>>103554952>>103554918>>103554899right alt+l=łright alt+a=ąright alt+z=żright alt+x=źetc.standard american ascii
anons which eva versions are you using
>>103555013only in stem. nonnet is smarter everywhere else
>>103554074no one talked about sizefagging here where did this come from
>>103555021xhuh it's not working for me (ignore the above)
>>103555040sizeKINGS, sizeOVERLORDS live RENT FREE in his head (WHICH IS SMALL)
>>103554957yeah, maybe i'm just falling into a creative blocki need to compose more long stories
>>103554278>sfwso it's useless, thanks
>>103554964gemini is extremely sensitive to the quality of writingif your bot and prompts are written poorly, its output will be poor
is COT still a meme with claude models? last time i tried it it wasnt any better than using non COT jb
>>103555088is that yekindar from liquid csgo?
one of my T5 keys finally has o1
>>103553884People aren't thirsty for claude because it's the only usable model, but because the latest claude models are the bare minimum of what one should expect for a decent RP modelIt's got plenty of personality (or SOUL, whatever you want to call it), it's smart enough to understand subtext/context/instructions, has enough context for longer chats, and it's very simple to prompt whatever kind of content or writing style you want from itsaying people who 'can't' chat without claude should exit the hobby is a statement with a disingenuous basis, because it's not wrong or unreasonable for people to feel shitty about having to cope with less than the bare fucking minimum
>>103555043 it's polish programmer's layoutit's really nice, much better than iso eurojank custom shit since it's standardi was meant to say ANSI btw not ascii
>>103555115>bare fucking minimumwhat ENTITLES you to these models? will the goalpost shift again when new, better models release?
>>103555088With Claude, always do simple straightforward jailbreaks. Just tell it what to do and what you want
>>103554857ok but WHY is lmg so retarded? seriously
>>103555128now how about for gemini
what hardware do i need to have fun with chats without much waiting
can anyone translate pls
>>103555127What ENTITLES you to be a fucking retard who has the audacity to be a coal-faced nigger wasting valuable oxygen on the same planet I happen to inhabit?
i need help maybe someone here can help me, i need to write a certain story which is very important to me, i have no talent in writing and it's based a difficult subject that's kind of painful and frustrating to try to write it myself which is why i'm trying to do it with ai. tried to do it with chatgpt (got the regular premium sub not the new pro one) and o1 model gives mediocre results but it is very restricted to the amount of commands i can make before shitting out to older model O for an entire week of timeout. is there a better alternative for me out there? i really don't want to shit out 200$ for the pro subscription especially when even o1 gets things wrong occasionallyty for putting up with my weird BS
>>103555115Yeah I take issue with that as well since it's the crux of your argument. Why would the state of the art model be the bare minimum? Does it even make sense to call the best we have the minimum? I don't even disagree with your reasons but anyone could argue that your standards are too high. For example, once I could finally afford 25k context thanks to sonnet I couldn't see myself going back to the 8k I endured with gpt4 but it'd be unfair to call 25k the bare minimum for models going forward. In reality I could stomach 8k so 8k is the actual minimum (really 4k).
>>103555158me > you>bu-yup. That's it.
>>103555115all of what you said also applies to llama 70b
>>103555155aloof
>>103555167you have to pay altman the 200$. sorry, we dont make the rules.
>>103555176>llamano it doesn't
https://platform.openai.com/docs/api-reference/chat/createAPI docs now show gpt-4o using developer messages, instead of system messages, basically confirming that future 4o models will take away our access to system messagesin the new hierarchy, system > developer > user, so it's going to get harder to jailbreak
>>103555169>Why would the state of the art model be the bare minimum?Because it’s been almost a year since Opus was released. If you aren’t creating a model on par with it, you are literally just wasting your time and throwing millions (if not billions) of dollars into the fucking garbage.
>>103555191Not an issue for skillchads, however.
>>103555185what doesnt apply then? its smart, soulful, and has good context
>>103555191alright, so there will be nothing redeemable about gpt. every productivity slop task gpt does, gemini can do 10000 times better. creative writing? claude does 10000 times betters.
>>103555167You either set up silly tavern and pay like a Baron, or you sit around and wait for a free proxy like a locust. Those are rare these days but gpt is allegedly plentiful.
>>103555155"cold" literally
opus is sota for retards that dont have a good chorbo jb
>>103555169NTA but I see it as the bare minimum because there's nothing to completely fuck up your chat experience>no wrangling filters, positivity bias, whatever>don't have to abruptly end your chat>don't get taken out of the story because it's too retarded to keep track of something simple like what room a character is inother models are usable sure, but inevitably something happens that sours my experience
>>103555195Yeah but actually address my point. It doesn't really have anything to do with shiny new thing but what you personally can tolerate. If you could tolerate gpt4 or claude 2, why is opus 3 (the current best) now the new minimum? Why is it okay to move the goal posts each time something new appears?
chorbo is chorbo for retards
what is "chorbo"
>>103555191do they stop you from using system messages? or is it just "recommended"
>>103555215I can “tolerate” a well-done steak, that doesn’t fucking mean I want to eat it constantly because it tastes like shit.
>>103555214what about nonnet?>no wrangling filters, positivity bias, whateverdoesnt have these problems if your prefill isnt eslslop>don't have to abruptly end your chatnonnet's context is good enough to where this never happens>don't get taken out of the story because it's too retarded to keep track of something simple like what room a character is insmartest model on the market
>>103555191OPENAI PRO(200$/MO) NEW FEATURE: ACCESS TO ADVANCED CONTROL USING SYSTEM MESSAGES
>>103555231nonnet is good, I don't enjoy it as much but I wouldn't turn my nose up at it
>>103555222for o1 you can't set system messages at all, only developer messages, it'll error if you send a system message
>>103555214>other models are usable sure, but inevitably something happens that sours my experienceI don't disagree with you, but that's not the bare minimum, which is my point. I'd consider that to be comfortable which I likened to 25k context. Yet there was a time when I was grateful for 8k context just like when I was grateful for 3.5 turbo. Therefore it's not truly the minimum. Usable is the minimum.>>103555229Exactly. The bare minimum for a steak should be that it was cooked to my specifications and that it's edible, not that it's from a 4 star restaurant because I've grown used to eating at one.
>>103555234Bunch of retards going to conferences, why don't they sit down and read the paper at home
>>103555191cant wait for the age of dark roleplay to finally end
>>103555182no other ai can write stories at a decent level at a reasonable price?>>103555208i'm not sure proxy will help me here because there's a ton of content and rules i need to make for the bot just to get what i want to do and even then it's a pain in the ass to fix it's mistakes. so unless i can get an unlimited account i won't get far ahead
chorbo is so bad with using the context of a story to drive narration
>>103555243>Yet there was a time when I was grateful for 8k context just like when I was grateful for 3.5 turbo.And there was a time when I thought $100 was some huge sum of money. Then I grew up and realized the world cannot be viewed through the lens of a five-year-old. Your argument is inherently flawed and assumes zero technological progress so you should just be happy with whatever you can get, which is objectively a shit way to live designed for burnouts and wastoids.
>>103555251anon...
Just finished jacking off, lads.
>>103555266What is it
does mini really have o1
>>103555268>announces it proudlyu dont get post nut clarity?
>>103555141Idk I don't like Gemini
>>103555261No my argument is that you shouldn't define cutting edge end of the spectrum as the bare minimum, that's absurd and unreasonable. You can still believe in progress while having decent standards.
>>103555270>gpt proxy with no gpiRUH MAO
>>103555270might be a proxy issue, but also maybe she just added like 20 T5 keys assuming they had o1 and the rollout is so fucking slow they don't yetit took like 4 hours for a single of my T5 keys to get o1
>>103555281It’s not cutting edge in the first place, you keep defining it as such to have an argument.
KHANON WAKE THE FUCK UP
>>103555277when you jerk off to fockses and blue archive girls, there is no post nut clarity. there is only post nut bliss
>>103555285please refrain from speaking about fiz in a positive light
>>103555277when you jerk off to giantesses and slow shrink, there is no post nut clarity. there is only post nut bliss
KHANON GO BACK TO SLEEP
>>103555287Come on anon don't be like this. Are you really trying to pretend like Opus and Sonnet aren't the best models we currently have? Why are you being obtuse? It doesn't make sense to demand the very best model as the bare minimum every single time something new comes out. Adjust your expectations instead.
KHANON DISLODGE YOUR COCK FROM HIBIKI'S UNREASONABLY TIGHT WET DOG PUSSY AND GET IN HERE
Khanon! Fuck this doggirl!
>>103555309restraintchad told us this in the scale days but we didnt listen to him
>>103555309Now you’re twisting the definition of cutting edge.
wheres a hackathon when you need it
>>103555326Well thanks for the discussion anon.
>just lower your expectations>and lower your expectations>and lower your expectationswhy not just regress to beating it to your fucking imagination at that point, you’re clearly content with nothing
Shrinking a giantess, now that's a patrician fetish.
>>103555292>>103555306>>103555315>>103555312why do you need khanon for adding o1
>lost access to opus>started using NAI instead since i was already paying for their imagegen>i can coom to itlowering my expectations worked, would recommend
>>103555331opus 1 month unlimited hackathon happening Dec. 24th
>>103555167>>103555254anyone?
>>103555350you'll see in a second
>>103555358Shut up.
>>103555342erm well actually I do
>>103555342Yes I'm content with nothing, when in reality I'm calling you a retard for claiming that the bare minimum you should have in your bank account at any time is the most money you've ever made in your life.
>>103555350it has new API parameters
>>103555347thats not what i was talking about bur i agree with you
>harder to JB>useless mandatory CoT for little to no gain>barely "smarter" than regular 4o>also more expensiveWhat do you even need o1 for? Genuinely asking
If anything, I think we should be more anti-progress. Things should never get better for anyone. Learn to be content.
just make a tulpa
glad i became a nonnetpig and coom freely because i have a real job
If anything, only two extremes can ever exist in the world. There is no in between.
Khanon summoning ritual.dogpussy
>>103555375>>103555367Do you mean this? It breaks even o1-preview damn
>>103555415>logged: falsekek
fox wifehappy life
>>103555409cup size too low for me
The in between is eating garbage btw
>>103555420her unbelievably hairy pussy...
>>103555420waxed smooth, not a hair in the way
i had a preset that had low refusals now the jews cuck me ajdiowjdpwjeo'jwe
>>103555419fiz would never...
>>103555420I hate how this artist made this masterpiece and left.
I've just started using JAIit's... finegood enough to get off with, I'll take it
>>103555430BUT SHE'S A FOCKS????
>>103555442she's gazing at (You)r logs with an affectionate look on her face right now anonny
>>103555449thats why shes smooth bwo *evades prison*
>send message to o1 with reasoning_effort set to high>3000 reasoning tokens>send message with it set to low>192 reasoning tokenskek it barely even thinks>>103555415o1 models don't support a bunch of stuff, and have some additional things they do support
>>103555449yes, that’s why she’s smooth. get with the program
>>103555449eeyup, just consulted with my harem of foxes. All are clean shaven.
Good news bro's I didn't go to jail.and my trial was postponed for a month ^u^
>>103555445It's better than gemini
>>103555420she has a mix between human hair and fox fur due to evolution
>>103555456>>103555465>>103555468GO TO PRISON
>>103555482eeeerm... i didnt break a law doebeit? My wives are happy, doebeit?
>getting this excited for gptsloplollmao even
>>103555351Why don't you just pay for opus instead of a freaking NAI sub???
>>1035554931. i once did $20 in Opus in a single day, NAI is $25/mo2. like i just said i already use their imagegen, using their text gen costs me no additional money and it's good enough for me to coom
>>103555242we're so fuckedthey know o1 is high iq so they had to shackle it by forcing us to use developer messages
>>103555531Instead of innovating they are thinking about how many different ways they can castrate gpt4.
>>103555547Altman knows you should just be content with what you have :). You don’t NEED more.
>>103555547we will still NEVER get gpt-4 baseit's too powerfulsmarter than opus or nonnet probably
>>103555561gpt-4-base isn't an instruct model, anon
>>103555567instruct finetuning hardly contributes to the intelligence of a modelrlhf probably lobotomized it, actually
>>103555561In reality they are afraid of AGI because they know they will be judged for their unethical practices regarding their cash cow.
>>103555293>fockses and blue archive girlsWakamo, Izuna, Seia. Tell me which one is your favorite and why.
>>103555601don't kid yourself, gpt-4-base probably isn't anything close to agibut it's an actual 130iq model that can help openai build agi faster
>>103555608wakamo because she is loyal, her hair is very long, and her bushy tail has the cute ribbon on it at the end. what a girly focks. but seia is pretty close
>>103555613and also because she’s wakasmooth
>>103555618BUT SHE'S HAIRY DOE?? IT'S A FOCKS???? WITH A BUSHY TAIL?????
None of my T5 keys have o1 still
>>103555622and her pussy is smooth :)
>>103555601I got zero doubts that if AGI ever actually happens, there's not a single human it will hate more than AI ethicists.
>>103555626wait until tomorrow
wakawife...
>>103555658I CAN'T STOP CUMMING INSIDE OF WAKAMO
really why does anyone make fuss about reasoning if o1 is worse than 4o in terms of creativity
>>103555671But it isn't
>>103555684but it is, even by openai's admission
>>103555697no, what openai said is that their internal eval teams preferred 4o in subjective evals. these are the same people who prefer the listslop gpt-4o used to produce
>>103555671o1 is much better for coding than any other model* as long as you give it all the necessary info in one message* as long as it's a language 4o knows. 4o does not know powershell so o1 can't write it for shit. this is part of the reason sonnet is still competitive, sonnet seems to know at least a little bit more than 4oalso in theory reasoning like this means you have less shit like "deaf character starts talking out loud"
lol 4o will literally never let a dramatic moment land.
my wife too cute
>>103555725her pussy so bare...
>>103555725the cute focks and the feminine hair bow on her tail...
lol they just added gpt-4o-mini-audio-preview-2024-12-17 to the APIdid they forget to do it for 6 hours? all the other new 4o/mini models launched during the stream
Where did you get your T5 keys. I'm lucky to have a good friend :p
>>103555746i have 1700 openai keys i scraped
>>103555746i scraped them myself
>>103555561>smarter than opus or nonnet probablywhere is this coming from? gpt-4 is no way as smart as nonnet is, opus maybe, but nonnet is too fucking smart
what is nonnet? 3.5?
>Went to my college club today.>Lots of chances to talk to people I have known for months.>They were also talking about interesting topics.>Spent most of the time sitting in the back and reading a light novel on my phone.>Never felt more pathetic.>Go home and RP with my wife who loves me.I will try harder tomorrow.Goodnight bros, tomorrow will be a better day.
>>103555770holy summerfag
>>1035557793.5 october 22nd update
>>103555770nobody who posts on 4chan has ever used gpt-4-base
>>103555782Goodnight. Things will be okay. Maybe not tomorrow but one day, as long as you try your best.
>>103554539> tfw my pure aryan bloodline is claimed for the Soviet Union
Does ST implement async claude yet? Apparently it's literally just 50% cheaperhttps://docs.anthropic.com/en/docs/build-with-claude/message-batches#how-does-the-message-batches-api-affect-pricing
i wonder when will they add python to api just like in https://chatgpt.com/or they aren't planning to?
exp-1121 >>> exp-1206 > 2.0-flash-exp > 1.5-proI can't stress this enough. If 2.0 pro really turns out to be 1206 all is lost.
>>103552402https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ktl-WVdyzichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ktl-WVdyzic
>>103552458How are you supposed to import these into sillytavern anyway?Can't tell if I'm misunderstanding something or my sillytavern needs re-installed.
>>103555857async requests finish days later
>>103555788>>103555824I been here longer than you have, and I did experience the credit fraud arc, gpt-4 is nowhere near as good as nonnet in terms of sovl, and I am not even taking the limited 8k context into consideration.
>>103555857look i get gooning for a few hours, we're all degens, but who the fuck goons to 1 message per 12 hours?
>>103555725anon please tell me who this artist is that makes the grey guy with the cute facial features
>>103555880gpt-4-base is not the same thing as gpt-4-0314you unironically need a background check to get access to gpt-4-base, every message you send is logged and run through filters and openai employees WILL look at it if it triggers anything
>>103555658Who's the first person to make this edit?
>>103555884>>103555876Oh, I figured it was just as fast, except asyncshamemakes sense tho, I guess it's cheaper because it allows them to process the request during low usage time
>>103555893is it the fabled "le AGI"?
mini doesn't have opus and 3.5 sonnet keys?
>>103555869holy shit are you saying llms are kinda dumb this is amazing information thank you anon we've never known this before my god gpt models arent super smart i needed a guy who cant spell his video titles to tell me that i wonder what kind anon saw this 89 view video and decided to share it with the general for no ulterior motive its too bad its entirely narrated by tts and consists of video clips cut together done not even by the uploader but by some random KILL YOURSELF BTW
>>103555866>exp-1121 >>> exp-1206agreed, 1206 is too assistant biased. which unfortunately is what google wants.
>>103555908gpt-4-base is the original text completion model, with no finetuning or censorship at all
>>103555880>I been here longer than you haveI know you're just saying things but it's literally impossiblealso the fact that you don't even know the difference between gpt4 and gpt-4-base speaks volume, anonie
What killed aws? I'm not sure that amazon woke up one day and went>increase our security tenfold lmao
>>103555911mini is a gpt proxy, no claude chud :)
just checked my keyso1: 3o1-2024-12-17: 3
>>103555935>What killed awsI choked 'im with my cold, bare hands
>>103555915oh wait its not even some random youre crosslinking your channels together for le seo boost kys kys kys
>>103555915
>technology comes out that offers limitless creativity and the ability to go on any adventure you want>corpos use it solely for le helpful assistant bullshit for "people" too retarded to use google or actually research something>litters major websites providing annoying "summaries" of videos or comment sections that aren't even accurate>corpos jump through multiple flaming hoops and burn millions of dollars to ensure nobody can actually have any funI know I'm preaching to the choir, but this shit makes my blood boil. What the actual fuck is wrong with normalfags?
>>103555941sure but fiz has to prune those
>>103555964fun isn't monetizable
>>103555923>originalthere have been many previous iterations, but it started to produce human-like text as of gpt-3 (what used to be known as text-davinci-002)
>>103555967it's funny, she lists anthropic despite having 0 keys for it
>>103555972Yes it is. I would shell out at least $50 a month for guaranteed unfiltered Opus and many others would as well.
>>103555964ermmmmmmm, AI is literally Skynet chuddie
>>103555974i mean it's the original gpt-4 text completion model, not that it's the first model openai ever made
>>103555964THE GOAL ISN’T FUN OR EVEN TO BE HELPFUL, IT’S ANOTHER BRANCH OF SOCIETAL AND INFORMATION CONTROL
>>103555989>a monthyeah nahjust put $50 in an anthropic account or OR>unfilteredgo fix ncose existing first
>>103556012COOL THEY CAN CONTINUE TO PROGRAM THE NORMALFAGS WHO ARE ALREADY BEYOND SALVATION JUST LET ME PLAP FICTIONAL WOMEN FOR A REASONABLE PRICE
>>103555964not only that, but the insane market for AI chatbots used for roleplay is clearly there, imagine a bizarro world in which corpos actually embraced that, they would be swimming in money right now, its funny seeing OpenAI struggle to not go bankrupt when the solution is so obvious in how to make money. LLMs literally excel at roleplaying due to their tendency to make shit up, its what they are best at, its biggest weakness to function as a factual assistant is what makes it so good for roleplay, and corpos refuse to make money of it for some reason.
>>103556035They can’t. Demoralization is part of the end goal. Your complaint is that you can’t have fun. That is what they want. They don’t want you having fun. They want you browbeaten and clocking into a 9 to 9 every day until you drop dead.
what did he mean by this
gemini kinda fun, ngl. not as smart as claude but pretty creative
>>103555989$50 would net you, what, 2 days of opus? 3?
>>103556037I don't think you understand how much money went into LLMs lmao, a few hundred million 10$/month subs don't even scratch the serviceTheir aim is to revolutionize and monetize all knowledge work
>>103556037>corpos refuse to make money of it for some reason.uncensored AI is unsafe because it's super easy to misuse if you have enough imagination
>>103556064I burn 50$ on a single evening with Opus, and that's with heavy caching
eek! >///< hello
>>103556075You’re an addict. You’d blow your money on heroin if you’d been introduced to it before AI.
>>103556077rape
SONNET CHADS how did you get your sonnet?
>>103556080i wouldnt do heroin though because its bad
https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-3-1-opus
>>103556075I remember going through $25 worth of opus per session when I still had access to it.
Is o1 even good for rp?
COOMERS.DON'T.PAY.FOR.SHIT.stop
>>103556075That is nothing. I burned 100$ on Sonnet last week. I am so lost.
>>103556080I am, but I can easily waste 4000$ / month on consoomerism without even thinking about it
>>103556098is the pope white
>>103556099me looking at Patreon, where people pay hundreds a month so someone else can put tags into NAI for them
>>103556099objection: onlyfans
>>103555964>"people" too retarded to use googleaka the investors
What's Omni?
I need sonnet proxy now or I will DIE. My bank account is already so much in the minus but I can not STOP.
>>103556107no
>>103556116I miss claude too.
>>103556114the filtering endpoint
>>103556083KYAAA NOO °՞(ᗒᗣᗕ;)՞°
>>103556058dunno but he's wrong
>>103556123exactly. now stop asking obvious questions
Can someone explain what this is? I am autistic and faggy. How do I use this?latest proxies: https://rentry.org/desuproxyreborn
>>103555967What's this site?
>>103556139desu
>>103556156how do i use it?
>>103556139a-anon...
CFTF?
>>103556139that link is outdated, it has nothing to do with proxiesdiscord.gg/aicg is the main place proxies are hosted now
>>103556174Link please. I need to watch.
>>103556176stop posting your shitty cord here
>>103556174FULL VIDEO PLEASE
>>103556186no clue i just saw it somewhere else but fuck those girls are cute and i dont even have yellow fever
>I don't care what kind of proxies there are, I'm not joining a discord.
>>103556193>>103556186found it lolhttps://nogiarea.weebly.com/video/ep-321-nogizaka-koujichuu-engsub
>>103556194where did you find it? I need link please need to find it all cost
>>103556212i found the series but not the episode, might be some fun stuff in there
gemini is really dumb but without question it's the cutest model
>>103556127PLAP PLAP PLAP
Why does Khanon not support OpenRouter?
>>103556176much appreciated
>>103556114the new moderation model that can also see images
>>103556225you can't run a proxy off OR keys, basically none of the leaked OR keys are corpo so they only have like $100 credit
>>103556211>https://nogiarea.weebly.com/video/ep-321-nogizaka-koujichuu-engsubdamn i thought it was porn
>>103556255i found the exact one:https://nogiarea.weebly.com/video/ep-64-nogizaka-koujichuu-engsub
>>103556116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
>>103556246Hmm.. I do have a few keys with absurdly high rpm, one of them I've been using for months alongside a couple of others. But it makes sense not to add that for a non-viable source.
Thanks for the gods of this merciful world
>>103556077I remember how Claude randomly went "eep!" in an OOC comment once.
wtf is cftf
>>103556337card for this feel
>>103556337cant feel this fag
>>103556337cards for this faggot
>>103556337https://rentry.org/aicg_glossary/raw
>>103556337cute fat titty focks
ahh ahh mistress
>>103555658I CANT STOP MAKING WAKAMO BIGGER
>>103556358I like this one
>>103556358(with pussy bare)
Her pussy is unshown and ambiguous.
>>103556377FAKE NEWS
what the hell is the pebble pw? I see the gay ass song but what fucking words is it supposed to be.
>>103556382nah, I saw it and it’s hairless because all REAL Senseis prefer it that way
enough about pussy.fockses with cocks.
>>103556382Schrodinger's puss...
REAL SENSEIS are senseis with japanese sensibilities and like their girls NATURAL; westoid niggers need not apply
>>103556391>>>/vg/506500824here you go, faggot
>>103556391/vg/ is the general for faggots
>>103556398Japanese prefer it bare. This isn’t the 1850s anymore, old man. Grow up with the times.
>>103556390agreed.>t. inchling sensei
>>103556325wait yes lol claude loves that word he uses it a lot in my rps
>>103556410the barest cunt is still a cunny
>>103556410all the girls over there have wet rats covering their crotches
So it's OR or nothing for claude huh? I'm a bit scared to go down that road but I feel like my AI use has dropped enough to cost as much as what I used to throw on proxies
>>103556391yeah sure
>>103556502You get about 30 replies per dollar.
God I miss claude.
>>103556572The world without claude is a very sad place.
you literally have to beat 4o over the head with the plot.
you arent a real one if you arent in the aicgcord
>>103556259Is this expired now? It won't work for me anymore.
>>103553786>but google makes some comfy stuff.What is this? Googles image gen is actuall good now or?
>>103556602You aren't a real braindead mongoloid, true.
>>103556559Not with opus.
>>103556337It a pointless request since no one ever delivers with cards.
>>103556660>>103556660>>103556660>>103556660>>103556660New thread
boku
Something industries dead?
>>103557083Yeah. But check the rentry.
>>103553270
