How to request advice:>Budget>Intended use (media, source, environment)>Frequency response preference and music examples>Past gear and your thoughts on themFAQ:>Where do I buy IEMs?Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio>Shopping Guide (IEMs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide>EQ Guide (Measurements, Targets, Equalizer, etc.):https://rentry.org/IEM-EQ-Guide>/iemg/ Proto-Blog/Wikihttps://rentry.org/iemgazette>Frequency Response Graph Toolsquig.link>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:• Truthear Gate (Neutral) - $20• Tanchjim Bunny (Mild U) - $20• EPZ Q1 Pro / G10 (V-shape) - $35• Kiwi Ears Cadenza (Warm Neutral) - $35>Bullet IEMs:• Final E500 (dark) - $25• Tanchjim One DSP (neutral) - $30• Etymotic ER2XR (neutral) - $100>Flathead Earbuds:• Blue Vido (warm) - $5• Faaeal Iris 2.0 (warm) - $10>USB-C DACs:• JCALLY JM20 - $24• Fosi Audio DS2 2024 (CS43131) - $45• Qudelix 5K - $110• Tanchjim Luna - $130>PMPs:• HiBy R1 - $85• Hifi Walker H2 / Surfans F20 (Rockbox) - $120• HiBy M300 - $200• Hidizs AP80 Pro-X - $200>AVOID USING:• EU Apple dongle, FiioPrevious Thread[s]: >>103538063 / >>103538322
First for Manor Maid
Why are foam tips so good?I keep going to them even if I end up lowering the bass in the EQ
>>103599597final tits >>
>>103599635What's Pato-chan-sama doing there...
>>103599635>1mm hemwhat a slut
>>103599646She has a collab with final for TWS designed specifically for ASMR.
>>103599633They're terrible.
>>103599661What makes these good for ASMR? I just asked about airbuds pro 2 in the last thread, but I only ever use my earbuds for ASMR.Or are these just another scam with an anime girl on it to make it sell?
>>103599177How do you plan to show the results mr editor
>>103599694there will be a live stream
>>103599694theres an option to publish the results, will probably do that and if needed i can publish the data a la excel, though i doubt i will need to considering the number of responses
>>103599740>tfw its all my response
>>103599740You should print a zine and deliver it to every /iemg/ fags home in person
>>103599677No idea, but Patra isn't the kind of person who would just let someone slap her designs on a product for a couple bucks. She's VERY protective of her fans, even had a longer legal battle against some merch company where they cheaped out a bit on one batch of plushies they made for her.She had a collab with final before and I know she was involved a LOT in those back then, they had a special "Patra mode" that combined ANC with some EQ fuckery that was supposed to make them really good specifically for her voice - probably female voices in general. Not sure about these new ones but I'd imagine they have stuff like that too.
>>103599777I don't know who that is, I only listen to White girl ASMR. But thanks for the info.
>>103599677I have over $10000 in pos and let me tell you iems are a fucking meme for asmr regardless of the tuning because they bypass the pinna. If you really need to goon just use headphones.
Looking for a good bassy IEM around $100 and I saw the Delci mentioned in the past on the archive but I don't see it in the bin, is there a reason it was removed? Has it been outclassed by something else?
>>103599834Its not for gooning its for chilling out after I fuck my wife. I have nice headphones but they're open back. Earbuds at least isolate the sound so she can't hear what I'm listening to.
Headpos moment, thread saved.
>>103599812She's one of the most successful vTubers in Japan. Started in a corpo and ended up buying her IP from them to go indie.Very hardcore otaku, does lots of ASMR, streams obscure retro games, makes music, plays electric guitar, and a billion other things.https://youtu.be/H5F8FkyY2GMhttps://youtu.be/jS5Il_vBte8
>>103599923>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rwAw_RbHq4>Verdict Day coverpretty basedi will now buy her iem
Alterego/duality anon again.More preorders arrived. Unfortunately I ordered the Annihilator right before Elysian announced the Apostle so I'm kinda pissed about that. But high hopes for the DX340.
>>103599923>>103600109Damn that's crazy. Buying the AirPods.
Why doesn't everyone use foam tips?What are the downsides audio wise?
>>103600622why doesn't everyone use X tips?because as with everything in this "hobby", it's subjective
>>103600622It's not the audio part, it's the comfort part. They get stiff over time due to wax accumulation and become unusable, so you have to swap every 2 weeks optimally. Even if you don't produce wax, they will crumble over time.To properly insert them you need to roll them between your fingers first as well, instead of just shoving them in your earholes directly.
>>103600109She is very based.She bought a bunch of older consoles to play through every AC game (before AC6 was even announced). And that's just 1 thing she did.
>>103600445>Tin hifi t2 plusDifferent anon here, I recommend against those. Poor sound, poor wearing ergonomics, overpriced in the current market. Tinhifi T1S, Letshuoer Soloist (look for it on sale on Aliexpress), Kefine Delci are some slim-fitting IEMs. If you want simple bullet-style, Tanchjim Tanya or Tanchjim ONE.>>103599852>Has it been outclassed by something else?Kefine released the Klean, which is the same sound plus a swappable nozzle. Delci is slightly slimmer and made from CNC'd aluminum (more costly and lighter weight) rather than cast alloy. For most normal users the overall package of Klean, at a lower price, makes more sense.>>103600622>Why doesn't everyone use foam tips?Trap heat, trap wax, not as quick to insert and remove, not entirely skin-safe / inert, requires more frequent replacement, etc.>What are the downsides audio wise?There can be some, but it's not applicable 100% of the time. They, by material design (porous), "leak," and diffuse some of the sound. As you insert them, they can also collapse partly over the sound nozzle, having a minor muffling effect.
>>103599740yeah sorry gazettezo i just can't be bothered to do survey. most of the time my answer is other, i cba to find out what pos was from this year or not, etc.
btw while i'm past the shitty wait timer, EPZ finally released new pos beyond the Q5 Pro.G20 just looks like the same G10 / Q1 Pro sound, but now the default package is 2-cables, one having USB-C and boom-mic. P50 is more interesting. I dig the aesthetics, price is attractive, and from their manufacturer graph, they've definitely gone for a meta-ish approach (compared to their old 1+4, K5)
>>103599499>currynigger shill OP
>>103600401buy a toilet street shitter
>>103599633foam tips + truthear nova are endgame
did timmy just tell me yume4 is 2ba only? holy pos... sneedaudio fell tf off
What's wrong with liking shartman tuning?
>watching audio youtubers
>>103601541nothing. hit play and enjoy music. like discussing other opinionated topics (religion, politics), the issue is if you tout some kind of superiority or force your view on other people as undisputed fact. i don't like it, thin mid bass and overemphasic upper mids. pretty simple. and if your pos is following it to a tee, that level is treble is pretty rolled off
NEW META? OMG!
>>103601586jews did 9/11 this is a fact and I am superior for knowing it
Why is crincicle popular when all of his tuning is shit tier?
>>103599661OMW to buy anime pos
>>103601578I have no time for audio youtubershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4YgQPX8SK8
omw to buy foxx
>>103601854Wise choice.
Thoughts on this EQ I got for my nova?
>>103601933add 1° negative tilt
>>103601933Preamp: -0.2 dBFilter 1: ON LSC Fc 105 Hz Gain -11.8 dB Q 0.71Filter 2: ON LSC Fc 107 Hz Gain 6.4 dB Q 0.51Filter 3: ON PK Fc 166 Hz Gain -0.9 dB Q 2.54Filter 4: ON PK Fc 296 Hz Gain -1.6 dB Q 1.37Filter 5: ON PK Fc 309 Hz Gain 0.4 dB Q 2.33Filter 6: ON PK Fc 1196 Hz Gain -0.5 dB Q 3.71Filter 7: ON PK Fc 1474 Hz Gain -1.2 dB Q 1.77Filter 8: ON HSC Fc 1506 Hz Gain -5.0 dB Q 0.51Filter 9: ON PK Fc 2788 Hz Gain 3.8 dB Q 0.82Filter 10: ON PK Fc 2809 Hz Gain -2.4 dB Q 1.62Filter 11: ON PK Fc 6668 Hz Gain -2.1 dB Q 5.91Filter 12: ON PK Fc 7500 Hz Gain 0.8 dB Q 3.49Filter 13: ON HSC Fc 10000 Hz Gain 5.2 dB Q 0.71Using this with the luna dac
>>103601933do they sound better? I feel like they'd sound too dark with this
>>103601976try it outusing small comply foam tips for deep insertion too
>>103599499which one?
>>103599499looking for IEMS in the price range of 50 to 100€. i want to use them for gaming, music and watching stuff (movies, series)
>>103602171did you forget a 0 at the end of those numbers or what
hartman tuning is peakhybrid DD + BA iems are awesomethere is no upgrade from the Truthear NovaEQ is cope
>>103602114Tanch One.I don't think the senns cable are removable and the cable strain will die.
>>103602114we are /asanotanchgeneral/ buddy, the choice is clear>>103602171epz q1 pro, kbear kb02, kefine klean, aoshida e20, tin c2 2025, artti t10 pro, shozy p20 (cheap from linsoul), simgot supermix4, etc.
>>103602219we've moved on to micro planars for treble gramps.enjoy your obsoleted cringe timbre bellsings tech of yesterdecade.and the kids are all eqing to jm-1 or soundguys. sean olive pissing his pants (more than usual)
>>103601970stock Nova tuning sounds better (like usual)
>>103602281How so?
>>103602293it removes alot of detail it basically blunts every song I've tried it with
>>103602242how are the TRUTHEAR Hexa 1dd+3b
>>103602346mid, and lack bass. also revision has already been teased
>>103602346the Nova mogs it in every way
>>103602333Not for me it reduces the screeching treble and adds body to itWhat song and what setup are you using.
>discussing a shitty autoEQ with a brain&hearing damaged harminge idiotin addition to the atrocious headpos post, this /iemg/ thread is now christened
>>103602390Excuse me, the adults are talking
>>103602362 >>103602359how about the Fanmusic TRUTHEAR x Crinacle Zero
>>103602413Class 3 adults to be precise.
>>103602414terrible fit not for human ears, mid sound.btw terrible fit and shitty cable apply to the Nova the guy is shilling you. truthear products in general are mid. yes, i'm sure you're being shilled by some youtuber and can see they sell fairly well on amazon. they're mid.
>>103602377using a FiiO BTR17 in dongle modetesting with Metal Fingers Special Herbslisten to this song:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HD3zmdmGHZ8it blunts the bass and the piano>>103602414I had the Zero Reds for a little. the fit was weird, you had to rotate it just right into your ears. Novas fit way better, sound better too
>>103601987lol no
>>103602451For me it cuts out the over bearing crackle present in the track I still hear everything but that sharp tone feels less harshTANCHJIM LUNA with comply foam tips deep insertion.I also get a fuller more detail overall with these settings listen toOE love by ivory waves and numb by men I trust
Taking bets which anon has a hearing disability
>>103602426what well rounded iems can i get in that price range >>103602451yes but the nova cost 3 times as much. im looking for iems i can use when my head gets annoyed by my dt 770 pros
>>103602517crackle? you mean the vinyl crackle? that's the detail I want preserved in the songthe only seasoning that sounds better with the EQ is valerian root:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5SHX4_w7Pc
>>103602534buy once cry once
>>103602555I think it's great but it's too harsh and hurts my ears stock
>>103602567maybe it's the foamsI used spinfit W1's
>>103602571I find a drastic boost in quality with the foams and the stock ones were great I just couldn't put them in deep like I like to without pain I daily drove my Etymotic ER2XR with foam tips over my blessings 2 dusk
>>103602598Dunu s&s
>>103602689I'm using small comply tips for the all day deep insertion
>>103602534>what well rounded iems can i get in that price rangeare you just ignoring the list of 8 options >>103602242, the OP, and the shopping rentry?
>nova can no longer be bought for under $100And just like that there's no point in buying it again
I've realized there is nothing good above 8K. EQ it all away.
>>103602948you'll have to wait for the spring sale
Why would you ever buy the truthear nova at the same price as the supermix 4?
>>103603032people are so stupid they unironically watch shartur. society...
>>103603032bellsings or bellsing+piezo, pick your poison
>>103600217>ANALDI->LATOR
>>103603410me want anal annihilator iem
>>103603418Wait for Meteor
>>103603138He reminds me of a schizo posted on /fit/ named vegan gains. They talk the same and have the same ego.Wonder what happened to that guy
>>103604340died from protein deprivation
>>103599499whaat happened to kefine klean in the OP recs, is cadenza better than it? Im looking for similar neutral-warm or bass boosted
Anyone using the Faaeal iris 2.0? It's been on the OP for ages but don't see anybody talk about it or see any refried on YouTube.I'm looking for flat head buds around $10. Mainly looking for good vocals and balanced sound.
>>103605051klean clears cadenza easily. better build, accessories, sound, everything. idk whatever retard shoved cadenza in. shit's old, mid, doesn't have great ergonomics, etc.
>>103605090faaeal rosemary has a much better cable. for that alone i'd rec getting it over iris 2.0. during sales it goes around $15. flatheads in general are subpar and not tuned well. moondrop block unironically are the best sounding flatheads, because they are using DSP tuned via 5128 measurements.
>>103605051Klean only downside is the brass nozzle. Gotta wipe it every 2 weeks unless you love greentech
Anyone got the Kbear KB02? It's pretty much KB01 (carbon copy of cadenza)+ bone conduction for $35.
>>103605090No point talking about sound quality with earbuds, they're so variable with position and fit that it's hard to get a consensus and coherent group opinion on themThe main things to look for are cable quality, and fit, the latter being mostly the same for this type of shell design. The cable of the Iris 2.0 is fine, but I'd personally recommend the NiceHCK YDX which has a removable cable that is relatively above average.
>>103605219some anon ordered it a bit ago. i'm curious too, maybe i'll demo via amazon and return if it's too pos
>>103605095its metal shell so a no go
etymotic has ruined me because I realize there's no point in not doing deep insertion with iems
I've never seen anyone mention owning BGVP DMA, but people who have it say it's pretty much the pinnacle of sound in its price categoy. Is it worth getting?
>>103605621Never heard of it until now
>>103605621If its that great and cheap, people would talked about itGo for it anon and post impression
>>103605663this, do it for this beautiful community
>>103605663>>103605759It's $300, a bit too much when I already have a few IEMs gathering dust. Besides, there are other better known IEMs in this price bracket, like Quintet, Tea Pro, 5+2, etc. >>103605655I only vaguely remember someone posting DMA's pictures a year ago.
>>103606251Maybe it's a hidden gem? Who knows
>>103606313That 8k doesn't look like mere resonance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pF5dT2eRwUIt's over for the Harman target. Sharur won. PEQdB won.
>>103606743Dude, even his viewers are jeet
>>103606743
>https://www.reddit.com/r/iems/comments/1hjra4i/top_5_iems_between_400600/Thoughts on this list?I've been wanting to buy a new pos
>>103605495I just bought a pair of ER4SRs and got burned hard, one of the drivers was broken brand new right out of the box. Atrocious quality control and amazingly fragile product, it doesn't matter how great the sound reproduction is if it doesn't produce any sound at all.So hey speaking of, what's a good alternative wired IEM to Etymotic ER4SR, in about the $200-300 range?
>>103608234It means shut up rat.
>>103608150You might want to check out the Yu9 U554 and U556, pretty much an "updated" ER4SE, with a different BA.They're chink-ware and come with 2pin connectors. Same fit but with a bit of a different shape.Also I pretty much 100% agree with you, there is no going back from Ety-fit, it's just perfection once you get used to it. There is nothing better than the ER2SE.
>>103606743please God ban all indians from the internet
looks like kz is going after the crin project tune
What's the point in buying a new pos when I can generate something epic using PEQdB? Only weeb companies and gacha collabs will survive after this app
>>103608879Stop with this shitpost pls
>>103608804lol?
>>103608980its not released yet, just like kz orion, which they havent announced yet either. 5ba 1 dd
>>103608804Why do people listen to that fat fuck?
>THE.>APPLE.>DONGLER.
>Bullet IEMs:are there any other recommended iems I can wear cable down?
Feeling cute, might bring my purse out today :3
Word on the street is crinacle likes to frequent brothels. He likes to hire one 18 year old and one mature up to 55. He has a habit of not showering and wearing what he likes to call his "pig baby" suit. He often screams Momieeeeee while sucking from the teat of the older escort while having the younger one "clean his diaper", you can draw your own conclusion on what that means.
>>103609774s--source?
>>103609774why did i get a boner reading this wtf
>>103609774
>>103609774BRB BUYING DUSK
>>103609774source or gtfo nigga captcha: NSA WM
>>103608879please walk slowly beside your nearest moving train
What makes Nippon IEMs so superior in craftsmanship?
I think my delci has got a channel imbalance issueWhat can i do to fix it
>>103610776Either condensation (go from cold outdoors to warm moist indoors) or filter clog (or also due to condensation, water permeating the filter). Let it dry, or in case of filter clog due to earwax, clean the filter.
>>103610776buy foxx
>>103610776Dry it.Silica gel in a box overnight. Will fix it a lot of the time.Condensation is a common problem for these metal IEMs in this season. My EW200 get it too.
After a day with the DX340 I have a few scathing remarks (part one):>Weight Shit is fucking heavy. The entire chassis is stainless steel and weighs 550g on my scale. Even though the screen is small enough for one-handed navigation, but you need to both hands support that weight.>12v DC-in This shit is a gimmick. It is not a true battery bypass like FiiO’s implementation, the DX340’s battery % still goes down regardless. The only thing 12v DC-in does is enable super gain mode which is helpful for powering behemoths like the Nightjar Duality but otherwise completely useless. Also, the external 12v PSU IS NOT GROUNDED and so you can hear background hiss on sensitive IEMs. >Stock screen protectors Fucking blows, both the stock glass and film screen protectors are incompatible with the leather case. The case pushes against the edges of the film and creates bubbles, while the glass makes it impossible to remove the case. Plus the stock screen protector has this abrasive rubbery hand-feel. I ended up getting a custom matte protector done specifically for the DX340 instead. Also forgot to mention they provide screen protectors for the back too, which is of course incompatible with the case.>TempsFinally, something good. The DAP is lukewarm at most, even on super gain mode. >Double tap to wake It’s there at least.>”Recents” homescreen softlockBasically, if you enter mango player (iBasso stock music app) through the homescreen and press “recents” in the navigation bar, you get softlocked into recent apps with the homescreen superimposed on top (see picrel). Now none of your inputs will register, but thank god the navigation bar still works.
>>103610776Are you sure it's dry? A lot of these metal IEMs have issues with condensation. Your room doesn't even have to be particularly humid, it just slowly collects over time.Make sure the nozzle isn't blocked by something when you aren't using them and maybe get some silica packets to put in their box with them.
I tried the PEQdB app. I have mixed feelings about it. Picrel are my results, tested with my own music and with the 'a/b instead of slider' option enabled.What is positive is that my preference for JM-1 was confirmed. Reducing the sub-bass, and instead raising the mid-bass a bit. Also (a bit surprisingly, because I usually do not eq this area) the mids from 1 kHz to 3 kHz do exactly match JM-1 now.What I do not like about the result is, it did not address the (imo) exaggerated output around 4.4 kHz that I usually EQ on the Gates. Instead they slapped a highshelf over the whole treble and raised it. Not only is this completely stupid, but I also predicted this in the last thread without even trying it (>>103540061). Of course a slight highshelf with 1 to 2 dB gain sounds better.So for bass and mids adjustment, this worked better than I had expected. It is not suitable for adjustment of treble, imo. This app gave me the idea to program something similar to detect treble peaks (basically by playing two sines and asking the user which is louder), and outputs an eq preset to eliminate those. Then playing some music with and without the new preset and asking the user which is better, to confirm that the eq really improves sound. I just need to find some time to at least write a quick prototype...
>>103610896After a day with the DX340 I have a few scathing remarks (part two):>Mango player iBasso stock player sucks. It doesn’t automatically index songs in my microsd card – you have to navigate through the subfolders and play the album for the first time before it gets classified under “All music” and only then is it able to be reached via the search bar.>Audible treble roll-offFuck R2R and fuck 1-bit DACs. I don’t know what analog FIR filter iBasso uses but there’s audible treble roll-off which completely neuters the Annihilator’s specialty. It doesn’t seem to affect the Alter Ego or Duality much but I would not recommend pairing this DAP with bright sets unless your intention is to tame the treble.The only saving grace (cope) is that it pairs well with warm/bassy sets. But now I need to find another source for my bright pos.Anyways I am fucking seething.
>>103610896>>103610926the shit audiofools do to degrade their experience, carry around heavier bricks, more cables and interconnects, etc...
Will I notice a significant upgrade in sound quality going from the BLON BL-03 to the Kleans?
>>103610977meh. if bl-03 doesn't fit you well, then that might change. slightly better treble sparkle with klean.lrn2eq
>>103610910PEQdb is pajeet-wareit can't work
>>103610926return that shit and just get muse m5 ultra, you don't need more
>>103610910>What is positive is that my preference for JM-1 was confirmednot really, you're looking for correlation when it is very weak>Instead they slapped a highshelf over the whole treble and raised it.the whole program is just a personalized, black box procedure that you often see with other personalized eq software>Of course a slight highshelf with 1 to 2 dB gain sounds better.not really, the same logic can be applied inversely, in that more treble would be disliked >This app gave me the idea to program something similar to detect treble peaks (basically by playing two sines and asking the user which is louder)very bad idea to use sine waves, use pink noise and/or music instead, but then you run into the issue of listener skill as well as assuming that there is a problem when there might be none
>>103611020shut the fuck up rat. ofc ur stupid enough to compare a dap and a bt dac
reminder to fill out the survey if you have anything you dont want to fill out, just put NA or anything reallyhttps://cryptpad.fr/form/#/3/form/edit/d55dd06ea20293e2f8bee1bbd47984a0/newpad=e30%3D/
>>103611020why would you use that over the qudelix?
>>103611020>"that anon is complaining about coloration">" Oh I know! Let's recommend him a tube amp!"retardGOD i kneel
>>103611046>the whole program is just a personalized, black box procedure that you often see with other personalized eq softwareI wasn't talking about how the software works, but about the output. In the eq preset it gave me is a highshelf filter>not really, the same logic can be applied inversely, in that more treble would be disliked there is no logic involved here, it's just my opinion on what people might like better when doing a blind test.>very bad idea to use sine waves, use pink noiseI never understood how I should be able to use pink noise to find peaks. With a sine sweep it's easy; I hear that 7.5 to 8.5 kHz is louder than the rest, then I sweep through that and find the loudest spot. There I have the center frequency for the eq. How do you detect a peak when listening to pink noise?
Planning on replacing my hiby r2 ii, I just want a good dap under $300 with a battery that last longer than 20 hours.Keeping an eye on the Walkman A306 (it also costs ~240 dollars here and they claim the battery last between 30 to 36 hours, but dunno if there's something better at the same price range or even cheaper.
>>103611182>longer than 20 hoursvirtually none. get more realistic expectations.a306 has weak as fuck power output in addition to some gay volume warning limiter, even for iems, which means *seriously weak as fuck*
>>103611198>weak as fuck power output >even for iemsWell, that's a problem since I use that. Would the hiby R1 be a decent replacement for my R2 then? I just want something with a bigger screen than this thing too.
>>103610896Told you to just get the dx180. There's no reason to spend more on daps, they all have the same sd665 chipset.
>>103611179the issue with sine waves (more precisely sweeps) is that you have no reference or clue what it should sound like, which is one of the reasons why equal-loudness eq based on sine sweeps (ie getting everything to have the same perceived loudness) is not recommendedfor detecting peaks, the ideal method is with pink noise and music, since the goal of eq is to ultimately make music sound better. it's rather hard and music itself is variable so it's even harder than just pink noisethe eq guide goes into detail about this, and i do agree with its approach; ideally, you should use music-like audio to check for peaks, but using sine sweeps is a possibility. imo if you use sweeps then you can fall into the trap of creating problems where there are none, like finding a small peak that would be imperceptible or even beneficial to music listening, and deciding to remove it on the basis of loudness in sweeps
>>103611234idk i'm not gonna endorse or shit on it. you can check out this review, look up other pros and conshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z48DB7XVRng
>>103611234two other reviewshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wF1QQ7OtksUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJNTQ06Rukwignore the shit about "sound quality," focus on user interface, battery, screen, etc.
>>103611234and also for various players you might be interested in, there is typically a head-fi thread. again, ignore stuff about sound, focus on user interface, quirks, possible bugs, etc. note that nearly all players irrespective of price have quirks.https://www.head-fi.org/threads/hiby-r1-85-cs43131-dap-released.974698/
I have been thinking of doing a small series of videos as an alternative presentation of the EQ guide. Is there a demand? If not I'll be focusing on my next project.
>>103611472I will only watch if 8 hour long
>>103611483Estimated time per video will be 5-20 minutes depending on the topic and section.I can make an 8 hour video of me fiddling with one EQ preset like an autist if you so desire.
>>103610910>Of course a slight highshelf with 1 to 2 dB gain sounds better.I don't get it. If it sounds better then what's the problem?
>>103611360>the issue with sine waves (more precisely sweeps) is that you have no reference or clue what it should sound likewell yes, but that's the same with pink noise, isn't it? I would even argue against this; have you ever done a sine sweep with an etymotic? This is just smooth. The frequency get's higher, but at no point it sounds ear piercing. While with regular iems, if you start at, say, 3 kHz and have the volume so that this tone is loud but not uncomfortable, the area around 7 to 8 kHz will sound uncomfortable.>the goal of eq is to ultimately make music sound betterI think this is the root of our disagreement. For me, the goal of eq is to reverse the changes made to the frequency response by the room. The room being the ear canal in this case.>imo if you use sweeps then you can fall into the trap of creating problems where there are none, like finding a small peak that would be imperceptibleI do agree with this. That's why I'd like to create a program that focuses on 2 or 3 spots, that are usually problematic for me (that is, around 8k, around 11k, and sometimes around 4 to 5k). I imagine that I can create a test that does not rely on subjectivity, i.e., not asking which sample sounds better, but instead only asking which tone is louder. I mean, this is tricky enough if the frequency is too far apart. I really want find some heuristic and put that into code.
>>103611541The problem is that the ear gets used to sound. That is why music producers take small rests in between mixing sessions and listen to reference tracks. Again: I'm not saying I'm telling the truth, this is just my opinion, but you can try it for yourself. Listen to any pos. After 10 minutes, enable a highshelf at 8 kHz with 1 to 2 dB boost. My bet is that at least 8 out of 10 people would say it sounds better (otherwise we wouldn't have this phenomenon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smiley_face_curve). But if you take a short rest, listening to reference songs that you know sound good, or even listen to nature, or playing an acoustic instrument; then come back to your eq'd sound and you might realize it does actually not sound good.
>>103611605>but that's the same with pink noise, isn't it?not really, or at least not in the same way since pink noise is after all just music. >have you ever done a sine sweep with an etymotic? This is just smooth. i have and it's not all that smooth, with as you said a rather prominent peak at higher frequencies. not ear piercing but it's probably due to very subdued treble levels past 3khz due to deeper insertion >For me, the goal of eq is to reverse the changes made to the frequency response by the room. The room being the ear canal in this case.the issue here is that you assume that a flat perceived treble response from sine sweeps equals a "stock" frequency response, which is what i am trying to get across with respect to sine sweeps not having any reference/anchor for which you can show thatalso, the idea of reversing changes made by the room seems rather arbitrary, why remove the room out of the equation?
>>103611283the main draw of the dx340 for me was the alleged battery bypass mode which was exclusive to fiio daps. what i did not expect was the atrocious dac implementation to the detriment of sound quality
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>>103611734smirked/10. still kys shittur
>>103611732What's the use case.
>>103611734
>>103611696>sine sweeps not having any reference/anchorImagine I have a flat response from 6 [kHz] to 7, then from 7 to 8 it's louder with the peak at 7.5, then again flat from 8 to 9. Let's also assume 6 to 7 is as loud as 8 to 9. Then I do have a reference: 7.5 should be as loud as any frequency from 6 to 7 and 8 to 9. When I say flat response, of course I do not mean "real" flat. Ignoring small deviations; it can also be tilted, like getting darker or brighter; just not an obvious bump. I want to make this bump less obvious.>the idea of reversing changes made by the room seems rather arbitraryThis is the only use-case of an equalizer. In wireless communications, an equalizer is used to revert the influence of the channel to the signal. In audio, an equalizer is used to revert the influence of the room to the sound. I have my speakers next to my desk. The desk produces a loud, but very narrow peak at 130 Hz. This distorts the signal, I need to get rid of this by applying the inverse filter on the source signal, so that the desk resonance and the filter cancel each other out.
>>103611841battery longevity ergo the dap takes a while longer before ending up in a landfill
Why is crinacle a shot caller when he not only hates harman but his IEM's are fucking garbage. I bought the dusk 2 by mistake and being recommended it only to see and experience IEMs a fraction of the price sounding better and ass blasting every IEM made with his input in the same price bracket.
>i'm dumb and naive, i bought a pos, so screw that guyok? to me, these micro e-celebs are utterly irrelevant. i don't think about them or their status at all. they want to earn some bucks from their grift, the people who fall for it (You) aren't my concern either
>>103612132Dusk were shilled everywhere anon including this board. So spare meIt wasn't until he started to post more videos the people in the scene realized he was a fucking idiot and people new to the scene at the time like myself got burned.
>>103612169>Dusk were shilled everywhere anon including this board.no, they weren't. newfag.
>>103612172You obviously haven't been here 3 or so years ago so it's fine. You're now slobbing crinacle's dick of all people so now I know you're a fucking retard. Not only did he lose face over the years but so did moondrop which also shilled here heavily.
>>103612195you said you bought dusk, an iem released this year. what the fuck does your retarded purchase have to do with 3 years ago?so now you're talking about blessing2:dusk? an entirely different model of iem, in the context of an entirely different time period and marketplace of iems. i've been around longer than you.
>i fell for shilling>i-it's all your fault for doing the shilling!no dumbass, it's your fault for falling for it. i'm not defending anyone. just placing the blame in the appropriate place. on you, the person who consciously chose to make a purchase.
>>103611912but what if that bump was congruent with your hrtf? that's the point, with music you have a reference (speakers) while with sine sweeps you're at the mercy of your hrtf changing the perceived loudness at specific frequencies with no indicators of hrtf-induced changes or canal resonance changes>In audio, an equalizer is used to revert the influence of the room to the sound.oh ok in that case sure, was thinking of pir instead but if we're talking about small distortions then yeah
>>103612223>gets egg on his faceIt's okay just say that you misread instead of jumping to conclusions and seething at me?>>103612236Reading comprehension is a hell of a drug.
>>103612243you seem to just be a cry baby that doesn't take accountability and responsibility for your own actions. nobody forced you at gunpoint to be a dumbass
>>103612259The Blessing 2/dusk were suggested in a previous OP btwWith that said you seem extremely salty over something that has nothing to do with you. Are you a victim of the crinacle and still buy his slop?My excuse was that I was new and didn't know better but you're too deep in the game to be seething to this degree.
projecting so hard. imagine falling for pos a jewtuber shills. literally could never be me. it was definitely (You) though lol
>>103612132crin is unironically one of the great innovators in this realm. 3/4 of you wouldn't be here without him. He's brought great change even with though there has been some fuck ups in this area where it was mostly expen$ive audiofoolery and stagnation. One does not have to like him to accept this. >>103611972dusk is fine you're just dumb and fell for herdlike behavior instead of understanding why one would buy it. All of these dimensions you allude to are overdetermined.I don't like crin, i guess similar critiques about sharur apply here. He's very smart, is pretty radical and a freethinker. He does look pajeet but at least his face doesn't look like he's melting like you weirdos and the political dimension of sharur is interseting in that he's a very conservative libertarian american in stanford (peak liberal left) and that in itself is rather interesting because i'd wager in behavior he is less pajeet than many of you here critiquing him for the same thing. Both are obnoxious but I guess I am more annoyed by the lemming behavior than what these influencers have to say.
>>103612298You're a knob slobber you dead ass just went full slobber muttCan you not read, the initial post asked >Why is he still a shot callerYou're still hooked on the fact that when I was new to the hobby that I bought a popular IEM that was shit and that it's my fault as someone new who listened to people's recommendations from both the general reviewer standpoint and the board. Yes the scene has changed and yes people like myself are more educated which begs the question.Why is that fat fuck still a shot caller when he keeps releasing garbage IEM after garbage IEM and holds some of the worst takes known to man?
The IQ of someone who buys Dusk ladies and gentlemen, on full display.
>Blessings 2 Dusk was popular at the time>Anon buys it>everyone including /g/ shilled it>everyone realizes it's shit years later and that crinacle is a fat retard>hyper fixated on something that everyone did in the pastIs he your daddy or something?
>>103612350why is mr beast popular? why is stable ronaldo popular? why is [x shit thing] popular? why does nggar have a bunch of follwers? you too dumb to understand the mechanisms by which these things grow?
what do you do when your iems' filters get clogged? i have 7hz salnotes zeroes and just poke them out with tweezers, clean them, then glue them back in place. however, i think i've done this one too many times now; the filters are more glue than filter and the sound quality has taken a hit/the balance is off. any there any cheap iems in the price range of the salnotes zeroes with filters that are easier to clean? is there even a better system, will i just have to put up with doing?
i know this is /iemg/, but do any of you have any recommendations for a $20-50 bluetooth speaker? i just want something i can play while in the shower and doing the dishes or whatever
>>103612447you've done better than most actually maintaining them. there isn't really a better system no. the one manufacturer recently implementing a decent replacement nozzle filter system is moondrop, but they did it with brass-coated nozzle that patinas and corrodes, and in general are pos. just stick to other cheap pos, grab a filter pack or simgot tuning kit and replace when needed.
>>103612350Yes you were new and there are good excuses to expect you to make mistakes and get burned. I do find that an indictment of crin or the product itself thoughLet's talk about the iem itself first. Really I find it odd that one would call it "shit" since it's not a oddly tuned iem. It's rather meta. Does anyone here really think it sounds shit or do they think it's overpriced, people having problems with crinacle as a person and the way he marketed the product, or the iem falls out of personal preference?Why questions are always overdetermined but if I had to say it would be that I disagree with the premise that he has some of the worst takes known to man. Mainly because he doesn't say very controversial things, people just don't like his demenor He's pretty knowleadgable and any mistakes he makes are rather technical with good reason albeit flawed. Crin is really trying to push the boundary and while that has failed I would not say the dusk is one of the areas he's failed much in. The worst part is the moondrop app and I suppose the overpriced nature but the app he doesn't have to do much and the overpriced nature is not all that egregious for what he is offering. Not everything has to be maximum value I suppose. Singolo and dioko were much worst but even then that's just failing from trying to innovate
>>103612464jbl, soundcore, tronsmart
>>103612464edifier too
>>103612485I do **not** find that an indictment of crin or the product itself though
>>103612464Used JBL + battery replacement using the ifixit guide.
>>103612242Now we're at the edge of my knowledge.>but what if that bump was congruent with your hrtfWouldn't that mean that I would also hear that bump when listening to a sine sweep on speakers, assuming they measure somewhat flat? When I do that with my Yamaha HS80, then there are much more minor deviations, which is understandable because of my room and all the stuff laying around doing all kind of things with the fr. But abstracting from those details, it sounds okay, no unexpected stuff going on. I don't know how you perceive the ear canal resonance peak around 7 to 8 kHz when using iems, but for me this is VERY obvious and annoying, and there is nothing that comes close to that when I do a sweep with my speakers. (In the treble at least, there is something similar going on at 130 because of my desk like I already said, and at 54 I have a strong room mode that I need to take care of; I even measured my room, and 54 Hz is the wavelength that fits exactly in my room.)>was thinking of pir insteadqrd on pir, what do you mean? can't even find anything on this
>>103612485It was overpriced with shit tier QC to boot. Also I think it was worse than the initial blessings once I got a chance to listen to it. Over the years after watching him on and off I realized this dude has bad taste in IEM which can be shown in all the products he releases. I just don't think he's a good guide post for people in this field because he has no idea what he's really doing and has taste that many people don't like. If he wasn't attached to so many high cost piles of garbage I can give him a pass but for someone like him to be in charge at the price brackets I see it sets everyone up for failure.
hpg is dead and full of fags. My friend hates the feeling of IEMs raping his ears and wants me to recommend him a cheap Over ear headpos. While i've been looking at the IEM meta for a while, i don't know any decent over ears. Based on the ASR review, 1More Sonoflow NC is a good deal. Anything similar in 100-200$ price range?
>>103612587i got those sonoflows for like sub-$50 last year. as per usual, headpos. people dickride the soundcore q30, also an atrocious headpos. but well, those are their standards for "good" so idk what else to say...also specify closed/open, wired/wireless
>>103612587Sony WH-1000XM3 if you want to save some money for the older model, they're pretty solid. I've had my XM3's for like 3-4 years now, and all they'e needed is the occasional pad replacement. Great noise canceling, work with a wire if you want or wireless if you don't, sound quality is fine.
>>103612619closed, wireless, wants to have adjustable ANC since i showed him an AES paper on ANC dizziness causation.
>>103612640i echo other anon. basically snoys are goated normie-tier for those criteria, but yeah a brand new xm5 exceeds $200. i do see on amazon the bose quietcomfort are on sale down to $200. probably many many comparisons between the models as the two top dogs
>>103612565I do not find the argument that essentially boils down to the iem is not to my preference and therefore it is bad very convincing. The reds which aligns closer to his preference were well received sound wise. All of his offerings are reasonably priced. Dusk and blessings used to be killer value. I have listened to the dusk 2 and blessings and the idea that the dusk 2 is that much worst i find very odd.As for the QC issues, it sucks but this is literally with every chink iem brands without exception.Again the idea that he has no idea what he is doing is rather odd because you again site no specific technical examples. I see his iems being designed rather intelligently for the price bracket. Dusk 2 does not lean as revolutionary or "competitive" as salnotes and truthear zeros but expecting better are standards are set a bit too high no?
>>103612630>>103612664Xm5's are old. Any xm6 leaks? When does sony usually release their pos?
>>103612665brotha, he listened to some cheaper pos and got assblasted he paid for dusk (never even clearly specified which dusk). the guy probably can't hear shit, isn't a trained listener, doesn't have references, who knows probably just had shit seal with the dusk resulting in the subpar sound, etc. as is many such cases.
>>103612683quick google says first half next year, dunno how reliable that is
>>103612685It's my fault for entertaining the occasional discussion with people here because everytime it falls apart when it gets picked a part any bit further. I don't even know what you're saying. This sounds like an ESL person throwing a concatenation of buzzwords together. This is way more pajeet than sharur has ever been
What's the name of the cheap TWS anon was recommending not so long ago?
>>103612447mine are not getting clogged
>>103612737You know exactly what I'm saying if you frequent the thread. This Dusk anon is yet another typical newfaggot only now having the basic epiphany of>"Woah, this thing people shilled isn't to my preference!"And he has a bunch of misconceptions he's fallen prey to, and continues to be a general fucking dumbass. He likely is still graph illiterate, will move on to some other pos when he musters the money to redeem it (probably still going to listen to reviews), etc. It's every day. Why you wanted to sincerely entertain him, yeah idk.
>>103612910You okay anon?
>>103612587>My friend hates the feeling of IEMs raping his ears...he could I dunno try to find a comfortable ear tip or IEM formfactor...
>>103612910You realize you need new people for this niche to grow right?Most hobbies have more trust worthy reviewers and there's a better system of educating new posters within the general itself, what we have in this thread now would have been a dream if it was up years ago.
>>103612856qcy melobuds, moondrop space travel, soundpeats
>>103612910Fair, I was more replying to the crowd. My contrarian idea that I find also true is that sharur and crin gets a bit too much hate and that is a form of scapegoating going on when the problems are overwhelmingly not with these two. Crin has done way more good than bad and sharur has little incentives to cause malicious harm in this community, the biggest harm being the gaslighting audio foolery shilling of products that the rest of the audio space influencers occupies, the worst being the headfi and most other influencers and the mass delusion that has caused
>midwits hourSkip
>>103612856gbuds fe is the only good budget tws
>>103613015Jesus fucking Christ this "hobby" is not that hard. Go to Canjam, audition shit, buy what you like and hit play and enjoy. The existence of a "community" shouldn't fucking affect (you) one bit and choosing to engage with e-celeb culture is to intentionally step in dogshit.
>>103612561most of my hrtf talk is based on the association model proposed by theile which also has an explanation in the eq guide (df target section); though not thoroughly tested by any papers, it is imo sensible enough to adopt the basic premise is that the brain continuously applies an inverse function of the hrtf, such that the spectral change caused by your ears is eliminated. this results in same perceived timbre while maintaining localization cuesthis is bad for iems, and the reason is rather simple; iems bypass most of the hrtf, and not only that, the relevant sound field is diffuse field, which is essentially non-existent in real life. there are therefore 3 main factors that muddy the waters:>iem fr will vary based on insertion depth, resulting in an ear canal resonance>the brain will apply an inverse function of the hrtf at all times, effectively changing the perceived response>speakers and iems cannot be directly compared due to differences in the association model and sound fields related to localizationi would recommend reading sections 2.1-2.5 of theile's paper "On the Standardization of the Frequency Response of High-Quality Studio Headphones" if you want more details, but the gist of the argument is that loudness at the eardrum (ie fr) is not ideal since there is also a spatial component to our hearing. using sine sweeps with no tone color and only using loudness as a basis introduces errors.>I don't know how you perceive the ear canal resonance peak around 7 to 8 kHz when using iems, but for me this is VERY obvious and annoying, and there is nothing that comes close to that when I do a sweep with my speakers.depends on the iem but yes i do often hear a canal resonance that i do remove>qrd on pir, what do you mean?preferred in-room response (eir is estimated in-room response). generally we want speakers to measure flat on-axis in an anechoic room, which translates into a downwards sloping response in a room.
>>103613131You're talking to a midwit sperg anon
>>103613015>sharur and crin gets a bit too much hate>problems are overwhelmingly not with these twoMeh if we're being real I can agree with those statements. Still, community like ours overcompensates hate against them, Moondrop, and KZ for decent reasons. As for Shittur specifically, he knows exactly what he's doing whenever he trolls and maligns himself against other communities. He can lay in the bed he made. If he wanted to be a genuine informative content creator, he could have chose to do so. He went the edgy troll route clickbait route.
Earphones are a hobby?
>>103613131Why would I go to canjam when I already have a bunch of good iems? Why do you think I engage these communities? I have pretty much never visted reddit/discord/headfi/youtube or any other audio community. I don't even have a account for any of these. I don't think watching some videos and playing with eq counts.All of my knowledge stems from the few times I've clicked on these website and then just observe the behavior. It doesn't take that long to see what's happening: egregious mimetic desire.I guess there is incentive for the growth oriented part of the community to grow though. Sharur and crin are doing interesting stuff. The community has definitely forced these chink companies to adapt for the good with truthear being a great example of how crin massively helped them grow and now they're one of the best companies The community does affect me I suppose
>>103613206This guy types like someone nobody likes online and IRL. Too far up his ass
>>103608139>MOONDROPPED number oneno thanks, made obsolete by the truthear nova
editor herefill this out insufferable fucksalso, responses out on christmas since i think most regular posters have answered ithttps://cryptpad.fr/form/#/2/form/view/gsjpnwniuQhOrFlpRVW-qB3XOD4udq0EfQi7Cf0Ct9U/
>>103613222I would like to think i'm not brainwashed by the amount of shit on the internet since I have most of it blocked out quite literally with some software. Maybe the internet has trained you in a way that makes you more mean and less tolerant and when someone throws you its undesirable. Hopefully I don't come across unplesant. I don't think I am since I don't train myself on that. I'll take the heterodox "weird" thinking as a compliment
>>103613173>i do often hear a canal resonance that i do removeWhat are your center frequency, gain, and q value for this?
>>103613287I'm going to save you the trouble and let you know I'm not reading that post. Retarded faggots like you are a dime of dozen on this site and have a habit of writing novels to say jack shit. I really hope you're not the retard that types like this on /sdg/
>>103613305NTA but I'm sorry your attention span has been decimated so much that four sentences is insurmountable.
>>103613328You must not have encountered his type before, after reading his previous post he falls under the retard that thinks he's smart bucket and will write a novel to say fuck all. It's more common on this site than you think.
Are we done yet?Yes? Then lets listen to some musuz!https://youtu.be/p7DnxRRuqzM
>>103613302depends on the iem, but it can be anywhere from 6.5k to 10.5k. q is between 3 and 7, and gain from -3 to -12dbdon't tell anyone, but most of the time i don't really care
>>103613381These are quite big ranges, for me it's usually between 7.5 and 8.5 kHz, -4 to -6 dB and Q around 4.
>>103613401yeah, it changes a lot since i also have some iems that have resonances at or near my canal resonance so there's a need for smaller q's and larger gainsalso the upper limit on range is for etymotics, most iems fall within your range
>>103613376white peepo don't be seasonin dey musichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbA45aJZlOc
>>103613376Only real musichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1CTPC02n0c
Is there anyone that has contact with Sharur? Would like to see the behind-the-scenes of PEQdB to see if there is some value in adding it to the EQ guide.Please also share your opinions on this and its possible inclusions in the guide.
>>103613549contaminated by fecal matter, a health and cyber hazard with jeetcode malware embedded
>>103613548REAL musichttps://youtu.be/PqLy1tgyphw?list=RDPqLy1tgyphw
>>103613549pre-obsolete by music libraries with >40 tracks
>>103613627>music libraries with >40 tracksDon't be crazy nobody can afford to buy that much music.
>>103613549It would be nice if we could eq based on genre
Speakers don't need per-genre EQ so why would IEMs need it. Make a better preset.
>>103613914Reply to me like a man bitch niggaYou can optimize key aspects based on your preference with a tool like this
>>103614009>You can optimize key aspects based on your preference with a tool like thisWhew you just gave me buzzword business speak whiplash with that one, what are you trying to sell here?
>>103614183If you can't understand the above post in it's context you're too fucking retarded to be in this conversation.Drink cum until your belly burst faggot
Oppoty II
>Budget$400>Intended use (media, source, environment)music, movies, and single player games. mainly using these on desktop with a DX3 Pro.>Frequency response preference and music examplesI guess I prefer a bit of warmth, I listen to metal, hip hop, and 90s dnb>Past gear and your thoughts on themAirpods Pro 2 - pretty good, I just use them on my phone for the convenienceCrinacle Zero 2 - the tips are a bit big and the sound is a bit too flat for me, but they're better then all the cheapo earbuds I've had before.Hifiman Edition XS - the sound is fine, I liked the planar bass and but the headband sucks and treble is a bit too shrill for me. kinda done with over ears atpright now I'm deciding between the Tea Pro or the ISN H60
>>103615723any pos + eq (guide)tea pro is the hottest fotm right now
>>103615723any comfy pos + peqdb.comSoftears volume s is the hottest fotm right now
>>103615723$2 blu vido
>>103615976Eat cow dung.
hey frens
What is /iemg/ buying this chismus sale?
>>103616734b***
>>103616734Nothing. I've achieved endgame already.
>>103616899>achieved endgame >still herebro...
>>103616734aint even really a sale. if someone wants planar meme, shozy p20 still a good deal
free chinkshit anon herejust got this (for free) today. It's the celest RUYI pro usb-c cable. what's the qrd on type-c cables? shit or secretly based to be dongle-less? lmk
>>103617309would be based if they weren't so shit most of the time
>>103617309it's HIGHLY variable depending on the specific manufacturer / model / implementation. some are noisy hissy crap, some are actually decent.
>>103617309reminded me of cdsp moondropped ear fucked anon, good times
>>103617313>>103617332kinera typically make some pretty great products in my experience but i don't know shite about type-c cables. according to the description it has a built in dac that supports up to 32bit/384khz and also has a dsp app called Walk Play you can get some eq shit going on for globally on your phone. I think so long as it doesn't color the sound by default and isn't a hissy piece of shit as you mention, it should be pretty based.I'll send my thots when it shows up friday.
>>103606476>>103606313Only one way to find out, I guess. I'll wait for the next sale.
>>103615356we'll still have driams about the proper successor
>>103617309>what's the qrd on type-c cables? shit or secretly based to be dongle-less?it takes up the USB-C port so you can't enjoy the music while charging your phoneall phones without the headphone jack are cucked and all of their buyers should be condemned and publicly shamed for voting for them with their walletsjust use the headphone jack and the renowned PEQ like JamesDSP, Wavelet or even Poweramp, use dongles only if you use power-hungry pos with low sensitivity and your phone doesn't have enough power
>>103613037Good snipe. ANC mode is trash though. I hope it doesn't do volume compensating, otherwise they're unusable with EQ
>>103618621Nevermind, they cost $90. QCY is bad, and soundpeats have too many models.
>>103618621just change the eartips, you have to have good passive isolation to make the ANC do its job properlyunlike some twshit like Snoy XM, the Buds FE have short stubby nozzles and shallow tips which can make it hard but if you manage to get a good seal the ANC turns out to be actually good, cuts out the bass like a champion and reduces other frequencies well enough to let the music do its job and mask them effectively, checked on noisy metropolitan streets and it works
I got the Aful MagicOne's, they're really nice and i'm very happy with them. They came with a nice 4.4mm cable but I don't have anything to plug it into, what are my cheapest options in terms of getting a DAC or adapter for it?
I like the nova but don't want to keep daily driving foamAnything with more detail and imaging that doesn't require foam tips?
