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>>103614193
>beta tester: Arc B580
But its the best card right now and also it uncovers AMD x Nvidia deep state deal about high pricing cap policy. Literally demons.

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>>103614298
AMD and Nvidia definitely collude (or Nvidia sets the prices and AMD just follows), but the B580 isn't insane. It's competing against a two year old card, the 4060. A $40 discount after two years (if we're going by straight performance and not features) is pathetic. It'll be interesting to see where the low end pricing setts after Nvidia and RTG release their low ends

>>103614076
I don't expect games to start going past 32GB of RAM until the PS6 is in full swing

>>103614298
>But its the best card right now
it's at best a decent entry level card, for a few months until 50 series comes out

>>103614238
Just wait some more?
I can do that.
Is it really a problem that I waited so long to upgrade to begin with or is it because I should have jumped on sooner?

>njudea are trying to scam people by selling 5080 first that only has 1k extra cores compared to 4080super while hiding the monster 5090 for later
Lmao

>>103614362
Neither, just the luck of current market conditions
Your current CPU isn't bad, and actually unless you're planning on getting a 5080 or something, you probably won't notice any different performance outside of a isolated situations

>>103614405
I appreciate it, thanks

>>103614417
What cards are Navi 44 and what are Navi 48?

>>103614417
Excited for 9080xt (where is it), 7900xt was priced too much

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>>103614379
cool it with the antisemitic remarks, chud.

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my current plan is to wait for Asus to announce their first BTF mobo with amd socket AND a BTF 5080/5070Ti at CES.
so I can make the cleanest build possible. any objections?

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>turn on computer
>start hwinfo64 cuz i like looking at how everything is running periodically
>insanely loud awful whiring noise like a motor fucking up and about to break
>mfw
>turn off pc
>turn on again and this time it immediately does it on startup
>turn off again but this time flip the psu switch on the back as well and wait a bit
>turn on again and it's completely fine
>stress cpu, gpu and everything runs super cool like normal, no awful noise
Seems okay now but anyone know wtf happened, I'm guessing it was something with the pump probably? AIO is a thermalright frozen prism 240.

>>103614514
imagine listening to kojima.

>>103614459
I would assume the split corresponds to the division in bus width, don't really know, don't really follow rumors for Radeon cards

>>103614524
Cable in contact with fan blades

Seems as if AMD integrated graphics will serve as their low end GPUs (50/60 tier) while dedicated GPUs will be midrange (70/80 tier)

>>103614542
What gen will that APU be?
I got disappointed by 7000g apu

>>103614417
>No 4080/5080 competitor
What is ayymdead doing?

>>103614417
>9070 XT
If that performance estimation is true they better be way on the lower end of that price scale because you can already buy a 7900 XT for $650.

>>103614298
OP is retarded, never mind him

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>>103614587
'8050s' and '8060s'
may just be on laptops?

i bought the sn850x based on someones recommendation here. most expensive storage i've ever bought. hope it was worth it.

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>>103614542
AMD's APUs are too weak to be a 7600 successor
Really in AMD's camp, a 7800 XT class card is the minimum acceptable (as it can run full resolution 1080p in new games), which according to that rumor is being replaced by a $350 12 GB card, basically a more powerful version of the 7700 XT

Basically if you're going Radeon you'll need a card that can run all the current games you want to play at full resolution and then pray that FSR4 will be good and adopted by developers. Really not worth even considering Radeon until there's some qualification of FSR4

>>103614611
>because you can already buy a 7900 XT for $650.
We'll see if reviewers hold AMD's feet to the fire, or whether the usual suspects will give it a pass

>>103614669
The number of poop emojis is my favorite measurement.

>>103614669
amd steve conveniently ignores the fact the 4060 ti 16gb is easily found for 400 and will outlive the 7700xt

Is the 5700x any good if I just want a cheap upgrade, right now, mild gaming, no questions asked?

>>103614417
about what I was expecting, the people speculating that it would be 4080 tier are mental, tsmc N4 is only the tiniest marginal improvement over N5

>>103614771
To me it seems that there will be an RX 9080
9070 XT can't be the top of the price range give, as the 7900 GRE is already a $550 card

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>>103614507
>he doesn't know

>>103614788
and its been discontinued.
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-reportedly-discontinues-radeon-rx-7900-gre

>>103614788
>9070 XT can't be the top of the price range give, as the 7900 GRE is already a $550 card
oh but it can be, if they say that the 9070XT has new FEATURES like NVIDIA has that make it better than the GRE and 7900XT, or did you forget that nshartia was able to sell the 2060 for more than the 1080ti launched at?

>>103614669
4080 is the biggest scam and the woat, comlared to the goat 1080, 5080 is looking to soon replace yhe 4080 as the woat

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>>103614814
Stock apparently has dried up, interesting.
Until a few days ago they were available for around $550. Yet another way for reviewers to give Radeon a pass

>>103614843
>to give Radeon a pass
I don't know what you mean by this?
>AMD IS OFFERING 4080 PERFORMANCE FOR $600, HOW DARE THEY!

>>103614814
I have one and it's not much better than a 4070. Sure it has more vram and slightly faster rasterization, frame times suck, image quality is just garbage, the Windows drivers are still garbage, and Linux isn't worth using so the 7900GRE ended up in my wife's PC. AMD just can't seem to make a good GPU. It crashed in games more times than I could count and even Linux running on Nvidia seems to be more stable than using the 7900GRE.

>>103614863
See>>103614870
It was nowhere close to a 4080 in my testing. The 4070ti was faster. The regular 4070 traded blows with the 7900GRE. What a disaster.

Are there any ATX cases that do bottom-to-top airflow instead of front-to-rear airflow? So basically having the PSU position at the front instead of the bottom or behind?
It makes so much more sense since the GPU can get cool air directly, and the tower cooler can intake from the rear instead of the hot GPU air. Alternatively, AIO up top though it's primarily getting hot GPU exhaust, would need side mesh panel or rear intake again

>>103614878
I still do not know what you mean, how would that be giving AMD a pass for the 9070XT?

>>103614863
>4080 performance
the 7900gre trades blows with the 4070 super dude, RDNA 4 is going to be a dud at $600

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>>103614835
>nshartia was able to sell the 2060 for more than the 1080ti launched at?
Absolutely never happened. The 2060 6 GB was $300 when I bought one coincidentally with the Super refresh

>if they say that the 9070XT has new FEATURES
Likely that FSR4 will be available on RX 7000. It has the WMMA aka ML block.

>>103614863
You are confused. My point was that the 9070 XT could not be the top of the given price range >>103614417 because the 7900 GRE is already that performance (it's what it's being compared to) for $550. My question is how much reviewers will give AMD a pass if it releases a refresh of current price/perf, and I noted that it's easier for them to do that if the 7900 GRE's normal market value has disappeared

>>103614417
This is such a catastrophic L that I suspect AMD is just sandbagging to clear out their current inventory. Then again, the pessimists have been right about every AMD gpu launch since 2013 or so.

>>103614900
this is a literally who, why would I take them seriously >>103614417

>>103614900
>Absolutely never happened.
It absolutely did happen, I sold one of my GTX 1080s for $1,000 used, which is $400 more than I bought it for. 2060s were going for more than $700 then, though, not from nvidia itself because they were all scalped.

>>103614342
Dumb nigga it’s targeting low budget buyers

>>103614417
Wait. What happen to the 8000 series?

>>103614941
Some guy on shitter said it's now the 9070 series and as you know everyone on shitter is always right.

>>103614941
Supposedly being used for the graphics clusters in the new high-end APUs.

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>>103614914
Because that's a notable, reliable leaker, not a literal who

>>103614911
I think he's saying bottom N48 will be $450 for 7900 GRE performance, in other words a ~15% discount on rasterization but probably more in RT.

>>103614941
Apparently it's been renamed, but who knows. All this stuff is just rumor until the cards appear

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Wanting to forego hard drives on the new build for sound and sanity
Already went with a 4TB 990pro for the boot drive
What would be the best option for secondary/storage drives?
Wanting to grab a second 4TB for now
Would mostly use it for general storage and maybe some less demanding lesser played games from the library

p3 plus? evo plus? WD Blue SN5000?

>>103614417
WAIT, WHAT THE FK IS THAT NAMING SCHEME

i was going to start upgrading my CPU to the 9950X3D whenever that will show up, and then upgrade my GPU to the 9950XTX when that comes out
i cant do that anymore??????

>>103614952
>>103614962
>>103614965
AMD marketing is the absolute worst in the entire industry holy shit. Like it takes negative talent to be this bad as just pulling some rando off the street wouldn't result in such asinine choices.

>>103614965
other people have said that the 9070XT is supposed to be the top N48 die

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Question lads: I'm currently sitting next an awesome rig with my 10+ year old 1080, 60hz monitor, and it's fine. It works, I like it.
However, how big a difference would picrel be? Some people say making the jump in refresh rate is night and day, but I have no idea, and yeah I feel like sticking with 1080 for now; I do both gaming and production tasks.
Link to monitor (it's on sale):
https://www.newegg.com/asrock-phantom-gaming-pg27ff1a-27-fhd-165-hz-ips-black/p/N82E16824028002

>>103615007
Ayymd crowd does unpaid labor for them kek

Ayyymd gpu is now following their cpu
>desktop shit 9000 series, mobileshit 8000 series

>>103615016
Just keep it for now and upgrade to 1440p later on. 165hz is a decent upgrade though ever

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>>103615029
>tfw I will never have an 8800x3d + 8800xtx build

>apes intel core i3/5/7/9 with ryzen
>apes intel core ultra with ryzen ai
>apes nvidia naming scheme as well now
Can amd do anything original

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>>103615016
The jump from 60Hz to 120Hz+ is literally night and day not only in reduction of motion blur, but by halving input latency as well which makes the entire system feel more responsive from just moving the cursor around to dragging windows and files on the desktop. You'll never want to go back to 60hz ever again after making the jump.
https://pcmonitors.info/articles/factors-affecting-pc-monitor-responsiveness/

That all said, the monitor you picked out is 1080p diluted across a 27" panel which will look bad compared to your current (I'm assuming) 24" one on account of poor pixel density. And that size, you should upgrade to a 2560x1440 resolution that not only is higher on it's on but is a tighter pixel pitch which will improve perceived sharpness/clarity.

Splurge the extra $40-50 for one of these (the Dell if you can manage it):
https://www.amazon.com/SANSUI-Monitor-Computer-ES-G27F2Q-Included/dp/B0CWCWL81G
https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-27-gaming-monitor-g2724d/apd/210-bhxc/monitors-monitor-accessories?tfcid=33163968

Going to the US soon for two weeks, any components particularly worth buying right now? Eyeballing SSDs especially.

Will probably bring a grand.

>>103615095
AMD marketing genuinely still lives in 2016

>>103615095
You forgot
>apes Intel chipset names

>>103614193
test

>>103614883
Nobody said the XT bruh. That being said, the XT and XTX are ok cards but the drivers are shit on Windows. Ray tracing also sucks massive penis on amd cards.

Seems I might have to return my monitor. Can a dead pixel be darker than the monitor's black? I'm pretty sure now these are dead pixels and not dirt but I'd like to be 200% sure.
Also any ~500€ 4k 32" IPS monitor recs? Part of me's still thinking of going bigger after all if I do fully return this. I don't care about HDR, no curvedshit, 16:9.

>>103614881
Lian Li Lancool 207

>>103615109
8tb nvme SSDs and 9800x3d from microcenter

>>103615095
AMD's naming scheme was too confusing for buyers only familiar with Intel/NVIDIA product names. Most don't know what AMD is.

>>103615138
Just get a 4k 120hz TV. For some reason they make great panels these days. Just do a cooling mod and don't connect it to the Internet.

>>103614870
What games?

>>103615161
I will be at a Microcenter in Boston actually. I still got a 3700X system back at home.

>>103615165
I'm pretty tight on space, 32" is already pushing it hard.

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>>103614978
Either the Evo Plus or the SN5000

>>103615016
VRR / adaptive sync + high refresh is a massive upgrade, but you want a resolution upgrade as well, probably to 1440p if you're on a budget. 1440p is barely more expensive, and if you want HDR the minimum monitor with decent HDR is already 1440p. As long as you have an Nvidia card it's not more performance intensive to run 1440p over 1080p in most cases

>upgrade to 1440p
>have to play at 60 fps
No thanks. Not gonna spend extra hundreds for a hobby I barely spend time with anymore

>>103615109
Fuck off we're full.

>>103615219
Same FPS at 1080p and 1440p (most of the time) if you have an Nvidia card

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Thoughts on the new Dell G2725D?

>>103615138
>Seems I might have to return my monitor. Can a dead pixel be darker than the monitor's black?
Yes, because LCDs are never able to fully block the backlight from shining through which is why their contrast ratio is limited.
>Also any ~500€ 4k 32" IPS monitor recs?
What country are you in or have access to import from? In my experience Germany has the best selection/prices but customs duties may interfere with recommendations.
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/xgzXsY/samsung-odyssey-g7-280-3840-x-2160-144-hz-monitor-ls28bg700epxxu
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/samsung/odyssey-g7-s28ag70
^I don't see much reason to spend more than this for a 4K display in your region, it has enough bandwidth from the HDMI 2.1 port for full 4k@14Hz without needing DSC. If you go with a 32" panel it'll look fuzzier from the worse pixel density.

>>103615226
You're big enough to support at least 700 million more immigrants

>>103615235
Go on…haven’t upgraded in almost a decade now and stopped caring about pcs for a while

Are there any reliable high capacity SATA SSD's I can buy these days or is M.2 and NVME pricing the same now?

>>103615168
Cyberpunk 2077, final fantasy 16, Hogwarts legacy, world of warcraft the war within, diablo 4, path of exile 2, Yakuza series (they all seemingly use the same engine), gta5, Minecraft with ray tracing mods, yuzu emulation. Across the board the 7900GRE failed to keep up with the baseline 4070, often crashing or despite saying it had more fps, felt slower due to increased frame times on both the core i7 14700F and Ryzen 5700X3D. The XT and XTX cards really did do a bit better but the GRE variant really was hot garbage. Not to mention their dogshit drivers that are barely better than they used to be. Often times the XT and XTX card would freeze up in game for like half a second then "catch up" moving hyper fast in unreal engine games. The GRE somehow didn't experience this, maybe because it was too slow, idk I'm speculating.

On Linux these cards do fair a bit better than they do on Windows, but you have to put up with the dogshit on Linux. I simply no longer have the time to babysit Linux anymore outside of testing for the YouTube channel.

>>103615279
You don't want sata. Sata maxes out around 6gb/s, my nvme maxes around 7000gb/s.

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>>103615277
That's the way DLSS works. You take whatever resolution you can run and turn it into a faux higher resolution. The faux higher resolution will always be better looking than the input resolution >>103615200

everyone knows amd as x3d so they should name everything x3d now

>>103615305
X3D is a specific speed and amount of cache you stupid mouth breather.

>>103615303
Not too keen on all this fake shit but I guess it can’t be any worse than the taa blur people complain about

>>103615279
Pricing is fairly even these days (in the US, at least), so if you have the slots, you might as well get NVMe.

>>103615279
i got my 8tb 850x for around the price of a far slower 8tb (qlc) sata ssd on black friday

>>103615294
Surely 6GB is fast enough for most usecases. What's your NVME drive?

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>>103615048
>>103615100
>>103615200
Thanks lads. My system can run 1440 without issue. Looks like I'll be doing more research.

>>103615322
>>103615324
Nvme is actually cheaper than sata. Motherboards with nvme compatible slots go back to 6th gen Intel and 1st gen Ryzen. You have to have some shit tier poorfag hardware that DOESN'T support nvme. I have a board with a core i3 3220 with a nvme slot on it that seemingly just works with even the latest nvme drives. They weren't as common back then, but you'd have to really try hard NOT to have a nvme slot these days.

>>103614542
Radeon 890M iGPU still loses to a GTX 1060.

>>103615254
Not reviewed yet, but early comments suggest it's a cost-down version of the G2724D without RGB lighting, USB ports, and speakers and a different panel (fake 10-bit / 8-bit + dithering instead of native 8-bit only and 180Hz instead of 165Hz). I'd stick with the G2724D for now as it's known to have a good-for-IPS contrast ratio of ~1400:1 and sRGB mode making it a better all-around display at least until reviews for the new revision come in.

Ryzen 9800x3d
Radeon 9080x3d

Who needs glass panels when a mesh panel is practically see-through

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>>103614814
Good riddance.
The fan sounds like a jet engine on that thing.

>>103615336
It's more that you'll cap out NVMe slots rather than not have one.
t. data hoarder

>>103615330
You can probably run 4k without issue. Just turn a few settings down or apply a patch from steam. A lot of games devs are super fucking lazy only supporting like a 4090. I run happily with a 4070 in my system and run 4k 120hz all day long. Final Fantasy 16 was notorious for 4k being dogshit and within a day of release a patch from the community was issued and it made the game look and run better at 4k. You don't need a 4090 to have a 4k experience. You just have to use Windows because for some reason modifying games on Linux is still very much hot garbage.

>>103615362
Devs will get even stupider with 20k cuda 32gb 5090, 5080 at this point would be relegated to a 1080p card lmao

>>103615357
Get a nas for that. They're incredibly cheap these days. I have a 4 port nas and it's really really good on gigabit Ethernet. I load roms over the network, videos etc. you don't want to horde data on a SSD.

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>mfw looking at these am5 microcenter bundles that my eurofag ass will soon be able to waste cash bonuses on

>>103615369
Oh no doubt. I'll have a 5080 but I feel your pain. The steam community is always patching games to run on lower end hardware though. I didn't get a 4090 or a 4080 because I couldn't find them during Bitcoin then covid... I settled on the 4070 and now a 4070ti, which I got in a trade. I have both cards and a 7900gre and my buddy has a 7900 XT and 7900 XTX we tested. Just wait and see because there will be patches you can apply that YouTubers don't seem to ever fucking mention. The amd specific patches seem fewer though. There's one for ff16 but finding things for more obscure games like the Lego games is a terrible experience due to more people just having low end Nvidia cards and patching games to run on those. Some of the performance patches do work with AMD cards but some make it straight up crash. Unfortunately zluda doesn't work on Windows just yet. AMD really is a Linux first card. And that's cool if you're into Linux. Devs need to be held to a higher standard when games from 2015 look better than 2024 games.

https://www.microcenter.com/product/462021/visiontek-amd-radeon-hd-7750-single-fan-2gb-gddr5-pcie-30-graphics-card
lol how are they still selling these

>>103615427
Poorfags buy them and they're popular with Hackintosh builders.

>>103615433
it's listed for $220 fucking dollars
15 year old gpu

>Gigabyte B650 Aorus Elite AX
>Gigabyte B650 Gaming X AX v2
Are these motherboards any good for a 9700X/7700X? The price difference with this bundle deal is only $80 between the former and the latter, the same 32GB 6000/CL30 Flare X5 kit is on offer. Not sure if the CPU or mobo difference is worth anything.

t. 3700X/X470 Gaming Plus w/ 96GB thinking of upgrading after 5 years

>>103615280
Something tells me that's not the average experience but sorry to hear nonetheless

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Why didn't anyone ever make a successor to this ?

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oh hey. superflower said that the XP is the same thing as the pro models from the hwbusters list, if this guy is right anyway. shit, wish i knew that a few days ago. does anyone believe this though? i kinda do, since the XP doesnt even show up on their site at all. if it did, it would mean its its own model and would likely NOT be it

HDD or SATA ssd for extra storage? Only need about 6tb. I’d really appreciate the faster speeds

Is there anyway to add in HDD lights into a 3.5 inch front panel slot?

Why on earth is my newly built PC not creating a dump log when it blue screens? My cpu also idles at an unusually high temp, usually over 50° and can climb over 75° when I'm not even doing anything cpu intensive. I've got an AIO CPU cooler that works fine.

>>103615566
HDD as the price for >4TB drives is unreasonable right now. If you did want SSD you'be better off with two of these:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GdcG3C/teamgroup-qx-4-tb-25-solid-state-drive-t253x74000g0c101

>2060 super here
should i buy a 4070 super for a stupidly high perfomance in 1080p for the next 5-8 years or wait for the 5000s series? i'm not going to buy a 2k or 4k screen in my entire life

>>103615621
Just buy now if cheap enough

>>103615450
its to trick ignorant buyers into buying the "latest and greatest" 7000 series gpu

>>103615607
its not working fine if your temps are that high

>>103615696
Processes don't show anything using the cpu when it spikes like that.
How would I even go about troubleshooting this?

>>103615717
Check whether your radiator gets warm and whether you feel any vibration from the tubes. If it's cold or if there is no vibration, your aio is defective. If it's warm and vibrating, check whether the cooler mated properly with the CPU based on the thermal paste spread.

>>103615744
I bought the AIO because I was having this same issue with my first psu cooler (which was air) which makes me think this is a software/driver issue. Without any dump logs to review though troubleshooting is very difficult.

Is TAA noticeable at 4k, because I heard some people say it isn't noticeable for gaming?

>>103615770
Dumps are useless anyway if it's not a CPU error when it comes to hardware problems
Did you stress test your ram and CPU?

>>103614417
AMD might be legit retarded

>>103615803
>Did you stress test your ram and CPU?
I did not. Any particular tools that you would recommend?

>buy new top end gou just to brute force old games to run at 240+ fps
>developers new game looks worse and runs at 80-90fps on same hardware
Fuck game devs so much

I want to build an emulator box, 6th gen and earlier. About how much should I expect to spend, considering a potentially small form factor

Is there even a reason to get a better computer? Currently I've got a Nokia X260 thinkpad and it can run daggerfall, why would I go higher?

>>103615782
Not really, seems to be a 1080p problem

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>>103615782
>Is TAA noticeable at 4k, because I heard some people say it isn't noticeable for gaming?
Yes. It's artifacts are temporal not spacial (that's literally what the T in it stands for) meaning they create blur and ghosting from having insufficient time series of previous frames to construct the AA algo with regardless of the resolution of said frames.

>>103614417
>>103615808
>>103614595
>>103614611
Called it before. If you know, you know.
>Arrow Lake CPU + RDNA4 GPU is going to be next year's saddest, copium PC build.
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/102593123/#102598116
>>8800XT is basically 4080 super tier but AMD flavored
>Lmao, when will they learn?
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/102681254/#102683943

>'Dey fixin' Error Lake tho!'
285K's still 20% behind the 14900K on some games, with the beta BIOS that is supposed to officially release in Jan. '25.

It's painfully clear Radeon shits out filler GPUs in-between console hardware generations.

>>103615824
OCCT's CPU stress test is good
For ram stress test, you can try y-cruncher > component stress tester > VT3 stress test

>yfw 5080 is just a 4080super super oc'd to 4ghz and 450+watts

>>103615844
You don’t need to spend much, any modern cpu/gpu should get the job done
https://pcsx2.net/docs/setup/requirements/

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Top end nvidia are just space heaters that could lead to housefires

>>103615904
>It's painfully clear Radeon shits out filler GPUs in-between console hardware generations.
I don't mind filler cards if they actually took the design savings from the smaller dies and priced the resulting cards to make a real-world improvement in value over the older cards they are meant to replace. It took years for the 7700 XT to become viable against new/used 6800 XTs and I have zero faith the RDNA4 cards will provide meaningful competition to the 7900 XT/GREs that have been falling in price all year. And if AMD won't beat their own previous generation of cards, what's the point of even releasing a new series?

What's the cheapest way to activate Windows 11? I made a new build with a new SSD and I don't know how to transfer over Home Retail version from my old PC, or if I even can.

>>103615994
Visit /fwt/ >>103590130

What’s the cheapest ssd I can get for gaymes? What GB/s should I aim for?

>>103616026
>What’s the cheapest ssd I can get for gaymes? What GB/s should I aim for?
Speed differences between the fastest and slowest SSD are neglible in the real world because there is hardly any difference between their access times (latency) and small queue depth random read/writes which games/OS mostly do. LTT proved this with a blind test years ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DKLA7w9eeA

As far as which model go with the best $/GB model. I recommend this:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/f4cG3C/silicon-power-ud90-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-sp02kgbp44ud9005

>>103616004
Damn, thanks anon. I didn't even realize you could just run a github script and activate it that easily. Makes sense though, just advances Windows market share and I imagine the average PC user isn't aware they can do this, so it doesn't really hurt their bottomline.

>>103615909
Ok I'll try those and report back after.

I only browse these threads from time to time, but man, the dude who spams these threads with benchmarks from Hardware Unboxed, Tom's Hardware and TechPowerUp without context has to be the most pathetic human being I've ever known. Have you guys already given a name to that dude? This general is his whole life.

>>103615338
their newest stuff will compete with a 7600 XT / 3060

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Where the fuck do you buy this

>>103616249
in the screenshot

>>103616249
https://www.newegg.com/asrock-pg27qft2a-27-qhd-180-hz-ips-black/p/N82E16824028007
?

But at that price the -B variant (same panel with a different stand) or the Dell 2724D are better:
https://www.newegg.com/asrock-pg27qft1b-27-qhd-180-hz-ips-black/p/N82E16824946003
https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-27-gaming-monitor-g2724d/apd/210-bhxc/monitors-monitor-accessories?tfcid=33163968

>>103616249
That IPS panel should be available from other brands, you could've bought the Strix XG27ACS for under $200 during Black Friday in the US.

>144hz+
>4k
>around 40 inches
>around $500
any options? currently only seen one TV in those specs

>>103615338
Does it lose to an ARC a380?

>>103616069
I feel like 2tb won’t be enough soon with these file sizes…

>>103616299
>>103616296
They don't seem to be able to ship the monitor to my country...

>>103616338
Neither this

What the fuck, dude

>>103616388
just repurpose it into a thumbdrive when you start to get clogged up

>>103614193
Why is the OP occasionally dogshit?

>>103616365
a380 is basically on par with a 1060

>>103616224
we can call him the vramdenier or dlssalesman

>>103616391
Well what country?

My laptop's 3050Ti wouldn't be so shit(with newer games) if it didn't have 4GBs of VRAM

Seriously, fuck Nvidia

>>103616488
Mexico, we are right next to the US, shouldn't be an issue at all

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>>103616499
Newegg do ship to Mexico, dumbass

>>103616484
vramalder*

>>103616527
It's all out of stock when I switch to Mexico, guess I should've mentioned that

What 140mm fans should I get for front intake?

Does anyone like GN or Hardware Unboxed review all the AIB versions of a new graphics card when it launches or just the founder edition? Where should I look to make a decision about which 5090 version to buy when it launches next month?

>>103616587
The only thing that really matters between models these days is the cooler efficacy, and that primarily comes down to heatsink mass. If you don't care about noise at all get a cheap Zotac or something, or if you do care about noise go for an MSI Trio/Asus TUF, or even a Suprim/Strix.

Seriously power delivery circuitry doesn't matter anymore as a relevant consideration, as these cards are all redlined out of the box anyway and have pathetic overclock headroom.

>>103616587
It's just a gamble my dude
I got a strix 4090 at launch and thoroughly regretted it from how loud the coil whine was. I swapped over to the gigabyte gaming oc months later based on user reviews and it's been great

>>103616570
I don't know what Mexico-specific e-tailers might have available for you Mexi-Anon but this looks like the best deal on a budget gaming 1440p IPS like the Asrock you were looking at in >>103616249 for $3,592 MX.
https://www.amazon.com.mx/Pulgadas-computadora-Freesync-Displayport-Soporte/dp/B0D3SVM4V9/

Have you taken the not-upgrading-current-setup-still-works pill yet?

>>103616654
Do you think this is a "past performance predicts future results" scenario where Gigabyte's 5090 OC will perform similarly well?

>>103616735
Considering there is a high likelihood that AIBs will just copypasta their existing 4090 coolers over to the 5090 (for good or bad), yes.

>>103616735
dont get me wrong, the strix had a banging good cooler but they messed up in their EMF design by using components that would vibrate very annoyingly in the audible range of humans
coil whine is not something reviews test for so that's why I said it is completely a gamble on whether you'd be happy with what you got

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>>103616669
This actually does fit my criteria on all points, very much appreciate the assistance

>>103616785
What r your specs

>>103616462
trannies like to hijack OPs for self-validating their self-mutilating life choices, it's a common affliction among generals

>>103616670
I did this for 8 years but my CPU is hitting the wall now so I ordered new parts this week. I'll finally be able to play stutter free.

>>103616791
No problem.

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>>103616907
2 or 3 comments mention the monitor does not actually output 144Hz

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>>103616932
>>103616987
You've got to be joking. In that case here's likely the next best option @ $3974.MX:
https://www.amazon.com.mx/ELSAE-Pulgadas-2560x1440P-Computadora-DisplayPort/dp/B0C997QQ2F

If you don't mind AliExpress (they ship to Mexico) it's $2844 MX there.
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807250946976.html

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>>103617071
Nobody seems to have an issue with the output on this one, will keep it bookmarked

Thank you, my dude

>>103616670
I did but I've been plagued by BSODs for a while now that go away a bit after using system restore but come back eventually, and I have no idea what could be the issue. Shame that the recent and upcoming releases suck and the ones that don't (9800X3D) can't be found reasonably as a result. Guess I'll have to bite the bullet and upgrade despite knowing that it's poor value.

>>103615516
Because it killed power supplies

>>103617182
Not poor value if you use it for a ridiculously long time heh

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OpenRGB or SignalRGB? I have a Gigabyte mobo and I hear their RGB Fusion software is terrible.

Just got an x670e for free off Ali lol what should I do with it apparently it does up to 7800+ ram OC and my b650 struggles with 6000 daul rank 96gb what do bros? Not worth selling can't get fuck all keep for a zen 6 build in a couple years?

>>103615909
I ran the CPU and ram stress test on OCCT and both of them showed no errors. Currently running the stress test for the ram using y-cruncher but I wouldn't be surprised if no errors also show up for this.
Should that be the case, where do I go from there?

>>103617271
>Not worth selling
What is the specific model? Tons of X670es are still sold out and sell for $200+, unless you consider that "fuck all".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pew1UDTxG2I

When the fans ive ordered turn up ill be done with my upgrades and free of this place for another few years

>>103616493
Wait theres a 3050ti? Lmao what the fuck, can anything be a ti nowadays

>>103617189
Guess so. Anything current would be a massive upgrade over what I have now anyway and at the rate things are going it seems like good generational improvements are a thing of the past. The RDNA4 rumor ITT for example just sounds like practically zero improvement when people can buy 7900XTs already for close to $600, yet the upcoming card at the top of the stack doesn't even beat it while occupying a similar price bracket.

>>103616587
Nvidia cards can barely oc anymore, at best you can do +200 mhz clock and +1500mhz memory all for 5 frames, don't even bother with increasing power limits as that gives you 1 fps for 10% power increase and temp increase

>>103617325
yeah the 50ti desktop cards went away after the 1050ti, unless you count the 1650 super.

>>103617348
I'll take stability over the ability to overclock. Rasterization is only one measurement of gaming. Yes it matters but not as much as frame times and 1% lows. I'll take a solid 60-120fps if my games are steady and stable.

>>103615607
>>103615696
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>>103615803
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>>103615909
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>>103617283
Anyone else wanna help with this shitshow saga?

>>103617567
is your pump pwm at 100%

>>103617606
Yes and this issue was occuring before I had an AIO as well.

>>103617647
which cpu, air cooler, aio

I'm going to do it in the next month or two. I'll research some thermal putty and use Honeywell PTM7950, and put them in my GPU. 80C+ on the VRAM and Core, and 100C on Hotspots are NOT acceptable. I've only ever used thermal pads and paste, so this new stuff makes me feel really weird. But if it means I don't need to open my GPU very often (and possibly never again), I'll try something new. All because I really hate opening my GPU.

>>103617302
MSI X670E GAMING PLUS WIFI
Gonna keep it
Only have a b650 aurous ax2 elite V2 which is pretty shit for a 9800x3d

>>103617271
why was it free?

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>Switched PSU to off and unplugged build I assembled yesterday with all new parts, to change routing for CPU / USB 4 cables to clean it up a bit, since I left things a little messy because I was tired and wanted to move on to seeing if it would actually boot
>Finish alterations and bring PC back to desk
>Plug PSU in
>Switch PSU to on
>Right after flipping the switch, fraction of a second white flash from the LED area of the top front panel fan (only one other fan in front panel)
>Shit fucking bricks since I haven't even pressed the power button yet, and worried something just fried itself
>Computer boots with no issue, all RGB shit is fine and no issues noticed after running for a few hours
What happened here? Is this something to worry about? I even restarted it a couple times since then and it's still chugging along without issue

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>>103617688
Pic related is my speccy (CPU temp is hot due to the ongoing y-cruncher stress test).
Air cooler was https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GpbRsY/thermalright-phantom-spirit-120-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ps120se .
Current AIO is NZXT Kraken Elite 360.

>>103617852
you have 2 separate issues. cpu temp, turn pbo off
bluescreens, windows issue. I tried ltsc iot and it bluescreened too, try normal windows on a spare sata drive

>>103617852
If you have messed with Curve Optimizer set it back to default too, it's hard to stability test it and instability will only show up in 1-2 core max boost scenarios

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I bought this case and transplanted today. 5700x/3060/32gb ddr4 3200. I'm going to skip am5 entirely and go to am6. I'll probably buy a 5070 and possibly an ali express 5700x3d. Between now and then.

>>103614701
The 4060ti is fucking worthless. This whole generation was garbage. Here's hoping redemption is coming with the 5000 series.

>>103617822
capacitors get charged up when you plug stuff in

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>>103617912
My old case was a fractal focus and was falling apart.

>>103617868
>cpu temp
Like I said it's only that high right now due to the stress test I'm currently running.
>turn pbo off
First time I've even heard of this "feature". I'll give that a try tomorrow.
>I tried ltsc iot and it bluescreened too
What version do you use now? I'm only sticking with eleven because I've invested enough time and effort into trying to get it to work that I'd rather not have all of that go to water AND have to reinstall all of my shit on another os.

>>103617876
Haven't messed with Curve Optimizer.

>>103617912
case is overkill and cringe for your setup, 5700x3d is a waste of money for you.
>>103617936
I guess it's better than this

>>103617939
>water
*waste

>Bought an 8700F because it looks good on paper
>Apparently it's bad
Should I return it?

>>103617325
I had a 1050ti for a while that I got for $150 when my 760gtx died just before the shortage. It was great for the price and soon after the price shot up for $250 and I was lucky to even have that at that point. After I got a 3060 I mailed it to my dad to put in his 4th gen intel i7 computer because the integrated graphics couldn't output to 4k for his 42" 4k tv he was wanting to use as a monitor.

>>103617939
just install windows 10 on an old sata drive you have laying around, no need to reinstall your os to test things out
I use linux and windows 10 pro I think

>>103617852
nta but a 7900X randomly boosting to 50-80C is not unexpected. The algorithm is on a hair trigger and coolers simply can't keep up - you've got a mere 140mm^2 of silicon that's allowed to draw 200W+ whenever it wants.
In any case, here's what I suggest. It's fairly standard troubleshooting steps to isolate an issue.
Stress test after each step; when you encounter instability you'll know what caused it.
1: Clear CMOS
2: XMP on
3: Enable PBO (if you were using it)
4: Redo custom fan/pump curves
5: Reapply any other non-factory settings
6: Backup & reformat

Also, don't use Speccy. It's not even detecting half your hardware. Hwinfo64 is the standard for monitoring these days.

>>103617939
>Windows 11
Have you updated your SSD firmware? There's a bug in WD's HMB algorithm that causes bluescreens.

https://community.wd.com/t/windows-24h2-wd-blue-screens/297867

>>103617912
looks nice. with all those fans you should have pretty nice temps.
good job anon

>>103617975
Listen to this guy
your cpu temp is normal, just see if your cinebench score is the same as in reviews.

>>103617966
Sure but if I test and it does turn out to be windows 11 I'm gonna have to switch again. I can do that but frankly I'd rather not. We'll see how much longer I can tolerate 11's bullshit.

>>103617969
Ty based anon. I'll run through that tomorrow.

>>103617975
Had no idea about this either. I'll look into it. Thank you.

>>103617957
What are you using it for? The fused-off APUs have half the L3 cache of the regular CPUs which hurts gaming performance. On the other hand they do usually offer more cores for the money so can be good if you need throughput on a budget.
FWIW, even if you are gaming the cache might not be an issue if you play mostly AAAs at high settings. Stuff like that only really shows up when CPU bound.

>>103617945
I have a quest 3 and the l3 cache is supposed to be good for vr. I'm just waiting to blow 500-800 on something better than what is currently offered. Specifically I want 16gb but know that if I bought a 4070ti super I would feel like an asshat in a month when they release the new cards. I've been bottlenecked by the 3060 for years now with no card that offers good value. The case was only $120 and the fans are $12/3 thermalrights just like my peerless assassin. I don't spend money easily unless I get a deal.

>>103617995
see if your nvme drive firmware is good first
if you still get bluescreens then you can move on to other measures

im never getting a 9800x3d am i anons?

>>103617995
I'm both >>103617969 & >>103617975
Do the SSD firmware first. It's a confirmed bug so should be the first port of call.

>>103618012
Yeah I'm using it for gaming. I don't know if it's a case of retards crying because they only get 90 FPS instead of 120 FPS, or if it's genuinely a bad CPU.

What windows software can I use to be able to see a live readout of temperatures on screen while running a game?

I built a pc, and running a game on a 7900 XT, the back of the PC is alarmingly hot to the touch.

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>>103617986
Thanks, I have had the $40 fractal case for 4 years now. I just reset my fan curve and it's actually pretty quiet. There are 15 total fans in the case including the graphics card and cpu fans. Antec c8, was really easy to work on due to all the space, especially at the top of the case where the cpu power cable into the mobo is normally a huge pain in the ass. Would reccomend.

>>103618046
It's not bad per se. just suboptimal. The 7600(X) outperforms it by 5-10% in game benchmarks for the same money. Important to note, however, that those benchmarks are done with top tier cards at 1080p to force a CPU bottleneck. If you're playing at eg. 1440p with a 4070 you'll be GPU-bound so the CPU won't matter as much.
I suppose my advice would be to return it for a 7600(X) if you're still in the "no questions" window. If not, just deal. It's not that bad. Next time check benchmarks instead of spec sheets.

>>103618072
Rivatuner statistics server.

https://www.guru3d.com/download/rtss-rivatuner-statistics-server-download/
https://www.maketecheasier.com/use-rivatuner-monitor-hardware-performance/

You should also do a proper stress test after building. Monitor temps with Hwinfo while you load the CPU and GPU to 100% - if it can handle that it can handle any game.
FWIW, the back of the PC getting hot is not necessarily an indication of bad temps but rather possibly bad dissipation - heat getting trapped in the case. Solve it with better fan placement and tuning.

>>103617852
>speccy boomer
I hate these threads.

>>103618087
ye I see there is a lot of room above the mobo. that's nice.
are the case fans all 120? are using software to control the fans? or just bios?

>>103618131
Thank you

Since /hpg/ is dead again, which one would you choose for your new PC and casual music listening?
Logitech G Pro X or Arctis 7P+?
Both are around 50$

>>103618278
Pay up for the Arctis Nova 5 so you can save custom PEQ to the headset itself.

>>103614193
Anyone else getting weird stutters and horrific 1% lows on their 9800X3D? Literally just got my rig built up and tried all the usual tweaks, even put it back on its default settings and it still giving me shit 1% lows and stuttering.
Running 32GB ram at 5000MHz and I have a 16GB RTX 4070Ti Super

>>103618339
Turn off afterburner, that's probably what's causing it
https://youtu.be/bQH3DYNboM0

HELP!

Would anyone have ideas on why my new build wont post?
I have an AsRock B550 riptide mobo, ryzen 5 5500 cpu 2 8 gig sticks of ram and an older Sapphire r9 270 graphics card.
I cant get the system to post it keeps coming up with no graphics card detected. I've tried 4 different cards of varying ages, all older than the R9. I've tried all the cards in all the slots.

>>103618358
Is your monitor plugged in to the GPU or the motherboard?

>>103618373
Always plugged into the GPU since my processor does not support onboard graphics.
Would that even matter to getting it through post though? I would expect that would only leave the monitor blank, but make it through the post process.

https://semianalysis.com/2024/12/22/mi300x-vs-h100-vs-h200-benchmark-part-1-training/

Nvidia’s Out of the Box Performance & Experience is amazing, and we did not run into any Nvidia specific bugs during our benchmarks. Nvidia tasked a single engineer to us for technical support, but we didn’t run into any Nvidia software bugs as such we didn’t need much support.

AMD’s Out of the Box Experience is very difficult to work with and can require considerable patience and elbow grease to move towards a usable state. On most of our benchmarks, Public AMD stable releases of AMD PyTorch is still broken and we needed workarounds.

AYYMDEAD CAN'T INTO AI TECHNOLOGY, DRIVERS AND SOFTWARE

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>>103614193
>>103599499
I want to upgrade
>Watermelon Merchant Republic
>Cheapesd poßible budget :d

>Gayming, archiving and programming, i like watching&reading said archives
>I need lots of cheap drive space
>CPU&GPU that will be able to open games at 30+ fps 1080p years from now
>Good monitor at 1080p or higher, primarily something that will be easy on the eyes

I'm currently using
>an old cooler master case from 2013
>Ryzen 5 3600
>Gtx 1060 6GB
>5 drives
>1 Tb, 2 Tb, 4 Tb HDD, 120 GB(cheap), 2 500 GB SSDs(WD Sn580 M.2 & no name brand)
>2 1080p 60hz monitors from 2015&2011 respectively,2011 is held in place with a permanent fastener and tape
>16GB running on 1200CL(?) DDR4 RAM
>Loonix mint with Winblows dual boot(can use both desu)
>USBs don't work well and one of the front USBs cable pins broke