/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbotschina #1 edition>NewsOpenAI announces o3 models, currently in early evaluation testing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKBG1sqdyIUNon-preview OpenAI o1 released on API to usage tier 5 users, "rollout will continue over the next few weeks." https://x.com/OpenAIDevs/status/1869156065788715409Gemini 2.0 Flash released, "more model sizes" in January https://developers.googleblog.com/en/the-next-chapter-of-the-gemini-era-for-developers/additional info: https://rentry.org/aicg_extra_information>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides>Botshttps://characterhub.org | https://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://char-archive.evulid.cchttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://rentry.org/meta_bot_list>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrlocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://rentry.org/meta_golocal_list | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_listhttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOPaicg botmaking events: https://rentry.org/meta_event_listlore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclescard v3 status: https://rentry.org/zdwfrgqqservices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metalogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/logs/reader | https://chatlogs.neocities.orglatest proxies: https://rentry.org/desuproxyrebornprev: >>103654413
>ANCHOR
Just finished jacking off, lads.
any good Tiananmen square cards to test on deepseek?
>>103658114Where's the deepseek info!
>>103658101lol i did have my worldinfo deactivated when i started the new chat, thanks anon>Whats your JB? some old one that i used for claude and also used with deepseek to continue a long claude chat (which went really well, i posted about it here before)to be clear the schizo shit at the end of the responses isn't happening too much>>103658127i already have that at the start of my context/main prompt and even at the end after my history (where the jailbreak used to go), doesn't seem to help. it only seems to work (and it works perfectly, every time) if i put it in the message directly>>103658145what no streamingit streams fine (and fast as fuck too)
>>103658080>calls it a massacre in english>glazes the CCP in chinesekek
>>103658114you will never be a real chinese shill
claude died like 2 hours in lmaoo
>>103658175In their defense, the devs would probably get arrested if they didn't censor it in Chinese.
>>103658114You know, you could've posted the canon female version of China.
I don't like the no streaming with deepseek I'm pissing and shitting in frustration, shaking my fists 2: the shittening
now ask it which group owns and runs america
Alright, tips for maximum enjoyment with deepseek?
>China BAD!
the actual chinese model doesn't make my chinese gal angry when I say 'ching cheng hanji' or something among those lines. Gemini, Claude and GPT all made her get angry
>>103658218lesbo
>>103658234>Step 1: Load DeepSeek>Step 2: Coom>Step 3: Return to Step 1
won't give you my money btw
>>103658253It's not working for me. The coom that is.
>Chorbo is down>The brainrot has caused anons to resort to local models to coomIs this the end?
>>103658234be blind to repetitiveness and purple prose
>>103658218ewwwww women
>>103658282>repetitivenessThis. How the fuck are people not seeing this?
now that we all can agree capitalism is bad its time to implement cybernetic communism.we let chatgpt pass proposals on the blockchain and we vote on them and thats it.
>>103658278anon.. there is a public chorbo proxy up
holy shit deepseek is ass
deepseek proxy dead lol
bros deepseek sucks
very organic posting, ey?
>>103658278deepseek is about as "local" as chatgpt
>>103658278>>103658282>>103658287>>103658304>>103658308>>103658312Not paying for your fucking proxy anymore, cunts.
>>103658239Yes.
oink oink
>claude bad>gpt bad>mistral b- fair>gemini bad>deepseek badjust use whatever you like and shut up
>>103658218>canonElaborate.
WE DON'T HAVE TO RELY ON SCHIZO PROXY HOSTS ANYMORE!!!! SPREAD THE WORD
>>103658310how the fuck isn't her dress falling off?
>>103658323I'd literally rather tongue fuck the chicoms and give them my money than pay faggot rugpulling proxy assholes a single cent more
I hope none of you were posting here for Christmas.I know you guys are pathetic, but surely you weren't that pathetic...
>>103658343...back straps? you see the choker right?
i am enjoying how manic high temp deepseek can get
deepseek does cunny ok
whip-whiplash
>>103658355we had an entire christmas party actually. why didn't you show up?
looks like deepseek doesnt censor everything
Deepseek is good at mommydom... supposedly.
DeepseekKINGS...
>>103658343elastics and pure friction
>>103658366Why would you have a Christmas party with a bunch of schizophrenic psychotics and not your friends and family?
>>103658357models losing it at high temp is a sign of overfitting, it would explain the repeating patterns though.
>>103658382i have no family and my friends spent it with family
>>103658382>implying schizophrenia doesn't run in my family
>>103658343she clearly has some straps in the back, also definitely a big pink bow
>>103658373>supposedly.huh? did a friend tell you or something?
>>103658410Come closer anon... *tugs your tail* there's a guy near the alley that knows all about deepseek
I spend more time switching between JBs than actually chatting.
should i take the pure nigger fuel?
>>1036582341.5 temp, 0.15 freq pen, any decent claude or gpt JB. Then lots of water
>>103658391Damn. Sorry, anon. I hope next year is your year.>>103658399Well, at least you're in good company.
I managed to get past the 1120 filter, but it's FUCKING SLOP. Which model is the current meta? Is it something I can access without digitally sucking any dicks?
>>103658430nothing new for me, the last memorable christmas was probably around 20 years ago, i dont really care about holidays, every day is just another one
>>103658436Scroll up / go back a thread
>>103658416I'm a human, not some anthro freak
I like how deepseek puts *emphasis* on spoken words, actually surprised I've *never* seen it before.
>>103658444Then don't look now, but I think you shit yourself
Just took a massive shit, lads. Toilet-clogging, even.
>>103658460have you never used claude or something?
Fun things need to stop popping up, I'm trying to try all the christmas cards still q.q>>103658460gpt does this alot anon...
>>103658357Hm, quite a bit better than my free 12B model - more soulful.I'm not gonna buy 16 RTX 5090 cards to run it though.
china numba one!
>>103658484Anon... just use the API. It's like, pennies
>>103658484I wonder how many prompts you'd get out of or deepseek for the same price?
>>103658475>>103658480huh, I've been here since the poe days and don't recall it. Maybe it's because deepseek does it every response that I noticed it.
>>103658472Did you survive?
>>103658484It can run on RAM only fast enough btw. You would need like 400GB+ ram though
>>103658490I've been using it all day and I've spent like 30 cents. Which translates to around a dollar a day when it increases price in feb.
>>103658475shhh... let the shills have their fun
>>103658493No.
>>103658510You won't get another pic, ecker
>>103658512it's so over...
deepseek is the most repetitive model ive seen so far
>>103658382i did bothdo you guys not have like, downtime you can spend fucking around
Damn I can finally RP in my native language and not pay a fortune for thisThanks, Whale
>>103658310her unbelievably hairy pussy...
>>103658488>>103658490>public APII can't reach orgasm without using my real name and those of my students>>103658501>run on RAM only fast>37BMaybe on 12-channel EPYC
>>103658543Great for you, Zhou
>>103658544even worse than nonnet? because holy fuck that would make it unusable if so
>>103656137i stole this idea and now i'm cooming to her on claude sorry
>>103658539It's far less repetitive than 3.5, but okay.
>>103658555Sadly (or not?) I'm not a chink
>>103658480you slipped an *I* in there anon. where's the consistency?what is that pov called anyway?
>>103658557what? nonnet is less repetitive than sorbet is. and sorbet is less repetitive than gpt-4o
>>103658553regex them you baka
repetitive is the most model deepseek ive seen so far
>>103658539>>103658544its overconfirmedit's super repetitive, don't even need to post logs to prove it
repetitive repetitive repetitive model model is is far far so so
*raises your temp*
Is this 'repetitive' shit a meme? Cause I'm not seeing it at all. It's a little dryer than Claude, but I'm not having any issues with obvious repetition, it's on par with other SOTA models when it comes to that.
only repetition I have gotten was when telling it to update stats but that's pretty typical.
>>103658576and this shit, over and over and over again
but ok is such a bitchy female shit to say. i fucking hate women
>>103658600Not really. I've got no idea what other anons are running into
I feel like it's missing something to take it to Opus levels of sovl but it's probably my preset
>>103658600>It's a little dryer than ClaudeYou're talking about opus right? Because if it's dryer than even nonnet that tells me it isn't worth using
>>103658616Cry about it some more you little bitch
the only repetition I've seen so far is anon here and on /lmg spamming about repetitions
>>103658573RegEx is awkward when the model comes up with creative nicknames
>>103658117CFTF?
>>103658629kys mate
>>103658624>You're talking about opus right?Yes.
speaking of repetition, what jb are yall using with deepseek
don't bring up repetition without bringing up your temp + sampler settings
clean focks pussy
>>103658600I've noticed it a little on some less than stellar cards, or if you spend to long slopping at it.But it's varied enough otherwise
every girl so far in deepseek constantly worries about not being good enough
>>103658600I think its a few people with badly formatted cards or system prompts or something. Ive been playing with it all day long on like 20 cards and not single issue so far.
>>103658643Alright, that's fine, I feel like getting another model as out of the box entertaining as opus now would be a miracle anyway
>>103658666this, just say 'dont repeat shit' and it will stop repeating, easy
>>103658661>less than stellar cardsWhat makes a card more prone to repetition than others?
jewish sonnet + gpthttps://stores-customers-exceptions-matt.trycloudflare.com/
>>103658679if its written with the instructions to be repetitive, obviously
>>103658665>Deepseek is aware that its competition is Claude and GPT and projects that insecurity into its charactersCute...
>>103658679Having it be repetitive?
Is deepseek better than Nonnet?
>>103658323Are people really still paying jew and smol? My 6k response chat costs $0.005 per message at 32k context. It's never been this good bros. Btw I assume this model only uses ~20-30k of "real" context right? I know it's max is 64 but I don't think it actually uses all that.
>>103658686> "activeKeys": 0,> "revokedKeys": 1,
>>103658696if you like repetition its great
>>103658696no lol
>>103658665they know we have standards
>>103658696Claude is still the king. Deepseek is the poor mans king.
>>103658686> “usage”: “3.19m tokens ($25.52)”,
>>>/b/929159491is this true? i've been offline in a food coma most of today so i haven't checked any of my ontopic rss feeds
>>103658703THIS is the slop you fags are drooling over?fuck we've really hit rock bottom
>>103658703Post settings
>>103658703Post screen of your settings. You must have the context fucked or something.
>>103658711>/b/Kill yourself, unironically. What are you, 14?
>>103658713>>103658714ive been tampering with them constantly and nothing is really changing it... trying a gemini preset now
>>103658667this meme is about why it's important to keep 4chuds out of the women's chatbot hobby. don't you have call of duty to play and satiate your brash male urges, incels?
>>103658724>1.49a... anon did you look at their recommendations?
>>103658645I use my own bloatware prompts that I cultivated for Claude.FYI, deepseek prefers having your JB/prompts/instructions ahead of the chat history, with a resume point and a prefill that also instructs it to resume at that point. Noticeably improved outputs that way.
>>103658724No fucking wonder. Turn off presence penalty, turn down freq pen to like 0.15. Have you never used a model before, too high rep pens makes models repetitive since you cut out way too many important tokens.
>>103658374It's never been a better time to be a Baron. It feels good to have land.
deepseek sucks, I am going back to gpt
>>103658726yet here you are on a male website and thread, curious...
>>103658724>>103658729Also presence penalty just sucks in general, only use frequency
>>103658724HOLY RETARDO
>>103658703>when her pussy's so DEEP that you had to repeat thrice
>>103658460I have a hard time getting Claude to *stop* doing this if I do it first.
>>103658727yes, i saw people recommending 1.50>>103658729fucking nigger, these settings are what i use on gemini and they work perfectly and yes, ive used this shit more than you, little faggot
>>103658744>these settings are what i use on geminiyou are utterly retarded
>>103658667>>>/r9k/
>>103658728the fuck is a resume point
>>103658510Mongocord will finally die. /aicg/ is healing~
ever notice that jew stopped shilling since he can't even have stable GPT?
>>103658744This isn't gemini you fucking slack jawed yokel
>>103658736Can you stop talking to the tranny? You’re only feeding its ego.
i'm deepseeking into your ass
>>103658679if it's made by me!For actual examples;Interview style example messages like,https://characterhub.org/characters/Elfnein/miku-kohinata-c5e91782df5f (It stops if you delete them)I've had a bunch of repetiton with explicit defs like,https://characterhub.org/characters/Nyatalanta/nora-5d848607the teyvat free-use card,https://characterhub.org/charac
>>103658753you're off your meds>>103658762and yet you claimed those settings wouldnt work on any model - i just fucking started with this shit, id bitch slap the shit out of your virgin nerd ass if you dared talk like this in person
That finally explains the repetition dumbasses. If it was ever more than 1 guy. High rep pens force the model to avoid way too many tokens that end up being important ones, this ends up actually making them more repetitive. Especially on models smart enough to have higher token probs.
>>103658756A small prompt after the main chat log, telling the model that the story is pausing here, and to resume at that point when prompted.
>>103658671If it's slightly dryer than sonnet but 1/10 or 1/5 the price it would still be worth it.
>male website and threadfemale. dominated. hobby
tomorrow we are gonna get the meltdown of the month, believe it
>>103658728>FYI, deepseek prefers having your JB/prompts/instructions ahead of the chat history, with a resume point and a prefill that also instructs it to resume at that point.let's give it a try then
>>103658776not for me, nonnet is as dry as I'm willing to tolerate (for NSFW specifically) after extensive opus use and addiction
>>103658781over what? deepseek is dirt cheap
>>103658780sorry, male website trumps your tranny delusion
>>103658724Are you the faggot who was complaining about repetition last thread? No fucking wonder with those settings hahaha
>>103658801kamalas*
>>103658724>top p>that penaltyare you retarded
Nonnet for sfw, switching to opus for nsfw, switching to deepseek for underage nsfw
>>103658780You will never be a woman
>>103658667On your pic are you the guy with the cap or the girl? You weren't here when this hobby was started.
>actual underaged child ITT using gemini settings for deepseek
>>103658665I had this all the time on Claude/GPT.
>>103658771So one retard gives you retarded advice and you treat it as gospel? You're literally telling the fucking model to repeat itself with what you set it to, dumb dumb. Try asking for help like a normal fucking person next time instead of sperging out and blaming everyone else for your asshattery
>>103658819the person who made this was brown btw just thought I should mention that :/
Everybody says chatgpt is shit, yet I can't find a single AI capable of generating femdom stories as good as chatgpt. How come?
more like deepshit
>>103658828Because you've never used claude.
>>103658828 (me)Whoops sorry I am in the wrong subreddit! Haha silly me!
>>103658667shut the fuck up you newfag. you didnt belong here in the first place.
deepussy
>>103658828heard of opus?
>>103658810this is unironically the way. do this and the coom will last for months.
>>103658744top kek
>only redditors refer to gpt-4 as chatgpt
>103658780this poster has an unbelievably hairy pussy...
>>103658771you are losing it lil bro
How even /aids/ is using deepseek, the model is 600 B of parameter, do you have 500 VRAM to running?
>>103658744what makes you think that settings from one model will work fine on another?
>>103658841her hairy armpits...
>>103658724Also you dont need top p for 1.5 temp, its smart enough still. Only at like 2 temp do you need any top p.
>>103658855direct api or or ?
>>103658855dirt cheap API
>>103658855>the model is 600 B of parameter, do you have 500 VRAM to running?good morning sir
>>103658855Holy ESL
>>103658855Let us all take a moment to check these digits. As an OpenRouterBARON I can use any model available the instant it's released.
>>103658868stop using top p when you can use min pTHE SCIENCE IS SETTLED
my penis hurts
>>103658884every single person who worked on the model half of this thread is now crazy about is an esl>>103658894link to paper?
>>103658894I don't know which cloud models support this.
>>103658902>every single person who worked on the model half of this thread is now crazy about is an eslEven after rereading this 3 times I still don't understand you. Holy esl
>>103658894Anon earlier recommended 0.03. What do you recommend?>>103658905See my quads here >>103658888. If you were a baron you could use it on any model.
>>103658902https://arxiv.org/abs/2407.01082>>103658905every local model on openrouter like deepseek
>>103658810Okay, how do I get Opus without paying :'D I can't fucking find Opus keys
>>103658919then opus isnt for you
>>103658909nta but I've got it at .35 with,presc at .10and rep at 0
>>103658906>every single person who [worked on [the model half of this thread is now crazy about]] is an eslhow are you this bad at parsing english. even esls can do better than that>>103658909>>103658911wait how come the deepseek api doesn't expose the parameter if the model supports itridiculous
>>103658855You don't need VRAM, just RAM, which tends to be a lot cheaper to rent a server forBut yeah, OR or API is much easier
>>103658924FREQUENCY!not repetition
is there any difference between OR deepseek and their own api in terms of behaviour? filtering or such?>>103658911also thanks for the link
>>103658924>>103658937min P at 0.35?
What model do Japanese use?
>>103658940They're the same thing. If you use OR it just calls to the API for you
>>103658909>you could use it on any modelSo you're a retard. It works only on the models that support it. OAI, Claude, etc don't.>>103658911>every local model on openrouter Not every one, because not every provider that OR proxies supports it. And I specified that I'm asking about cloud models.>like deepseekYou are retarded as well. OR proxies the official Deepseek API and it doesn't support it. You are a moron, and yout min_p isn't applied anywhere.
>>103658948lolimax
>>103658948they use chatgpt and perplexity
>>103658942yup>>103658948Last I checked they were still using webclient gpt
this looks so ridiculous"here is our new model. it's bigger and arguably beats sota. also 15x cheaper"
>Saves vidya from western jews>Saves AI from western jewsPost "Thank you eternal chairman" or another doom era will happen right now.
>>103658948they're still on webgpt with no interest in moving.
>>103658963*until February
>>103658972*when it's only 7x cheaper
>>103658972*then it's just 7.5x cheaper
>>103658972when it will only be 7.5x cheaper
>>103658967Thank you eternal chairman
>>103658972>>103658976>>103658977>>103658981The Chinese hivemind is coming for us
>>103658819>/aicg/ is founded-It was fuckin /caig/ you goddamn tourist
>>103658976>>103658977>>103658981hello synchronized deepshills
I want Japan to give us something. They give us manga, anime, games, VNs, where's the fucking ai
has local finally catched up then?
>>103658961>>103658971>webgptWHY
>>103658998Sadly they are actually technologically stagnant even with as much cool shit that they have.
>>103658976>>103658977>>103658981kek
>>103659008>>103658993>>103658989hello counter-shills
>>103659001They're willfully stagnant and are still experimenting with DAN jbs. Maybe Vietnam, Taiwan, or India can give us something?
>>103659000Its 95% of the way to claude sonnet 3.5 id say.
>>103658991And /aicg/ wasn't?
>>103658724what is with all the people who turn up penalties then act surprised when the model schizos out
>shill shill shill shillpoor baitie, can't gossip about proxy owners, can't doom about corpo models, can't shitpost about locals being bad, they are desperate for any scrap of doom
You do realize that this 685B model is 256 experts, 8 of which is active, so only 21B activated parameters over 8 experts, roughly 3B per expert. How expert can a 3B model be for the area of expertise? It is amazing that the coding performance is almost o1 level, but you do realize that all china AI models are nothing but stolen synthetics data from OpenAI/Anthropic, they just shove it into a model able to hold that many tokens.OpenAI, Grok, even later LLAMA 4/5 are going for 2Trillion parameters (dense or activated ?) by next year. There is a huge difference when your model doesn't have free stolen synthetics from others that you have to do the grunt work to actually think inside the model instead of being told.
>>103659001you're asking this about a country that unironically still uses fax machines for everything?
>>103659024I remember that in the early days high penalties were a thing in presets. I'm talking like, 3.5 Turbo days. SillyTavern by default on the OpenAI preset gives you high values too
>>103659015>india ai>it asks for bobs and vagene constantly>scams you during your chat>posts adsi can see taiwan trying to make something but what the fuck does vietnam do? indian ai will probably be something like pyg
>She leaned in, lowering her voice like she was about to drop the hottest piece of advice ever. "Here’s the Cutie-certified plan: ignore their pathetic little antics. They’re just looking for attention because their lives are as bland as unseasoned tofu.
>>103659038>stolen synthetics dataSo, like every other model in existence?
>>103659041The less trained a model is the less it hurts it as it has a broader range of high prob tokens. That is why a higher rep pen might not hurt a model like gemini.
>>103659044imagine thAI
>>103659038you already posted these bait>>103653000
>>103659064>these baitgood morning sir
>>103658961thanks
>>103659038You already posted this a thread or two ago, get more material. >>103659064
>>103659038The paper says 37B active.>free stolenThey all are, except OAI and the rest of those fuckwits are crying about muh ethics and muh safety while stealing.
>>103659038Will still use it in my shota on mom+aunt nsfw rp
>>103659050kino
>>103659076zased
>>103659069>>103659064Stay here.
>>103659061Your waifus are now all ladyboys with syphilis
>>103659020/aicg/ was what /caig/ eventually turned into when CAI started becoming unusably censored and>I insert my banana into the holeWasn't cutting it anymore, I just feel like the fact it wasn't originally called /aicg/ should be mentioned
>>103659038>r 2Trillion parametersJust like Opus? Fuck I need that shit RIGHT FUCKING NOW NIGGA UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHH
>>103659038go take a bath, you stink
deep
in
B-bros? You're not SERIOUSLY giving the chinese your data, right? This is... /g/ after all!
>>103659106I know, and this was irrelevant here. The change of the name changed nothing else of the general.
>https://substitute-domains-pdas-specified.trycloudflare.com/all this usage for 12 cents? ZAMN
>>103659133I'm not giving the Chinese my dataI'm giving the Chinese my fetishes
>>103659133>China gives my country money>China does industrial work and fixes my countryI don't see why I shouldn't support China
>>103659133As if giving burgers my data is any better
>>103659136It actually does because if you’re trying to present history accurately then you would’ve mentioned /caig/ by name instead of just LARPing as an oldfag and outing yourself. But good try.
>>103659133Only until I have my 1TB DDR5-6000 2x12 channel server up running
robin card when? i want to lay my head on the lap of sunday's sister and have her hum softly while she cleans my ears and runs her fingers through my hair
>>103659146>>China does industrial work and fixes my countryChina is “fixing” your country about as much as it fixes Africa, lol
>>103659133My phone is a Xiaomi, I buy Ryzen processors for cheap in Aliexpress... what else?
>>103659157>because my headcanonBut good try.
>>103659165>robinAnon must surely be referring to https://chub.ai/characters/evilpieceofshit/milf-nico-robin-slutty-teacher-471f774102d6, as we were given no further extrapolation.
>>103659038holy shit, it's so over bros, time to throw deepsneed in the trash and go back sucking western corpo bosom
>>103659133Give me a link to sub-$0.10 / 1M Nonnet and I'll reconsider
>>103659188>as we were given no further extrapolation.Anon...
>>103659188>sunday's sister
>>103659188NO NO NO i mean sunday's sister
>>103659144it's a strategy actuallyI give them my fetishesThey give me a model that is better at named fetishes
>>103659191>>103659197>>103659198Listen, you can't do much with just first names. As far as I know there's a one piece character named sunday too, as far as I know there's a fucking batman villain named sunday. Don't expect me to immediately connect it to gachaslop, or else I WILL rape you.
>>103659136I disagree, I think it indicated the start of a major shift in where anons started getting their rp from/the fall of CAI and the beginning of the rise of stuff like open ai, roku, pygmalion, and chub after roku caught on fire and died.Regardless i'm probably just being autistic so i'll stop being silly about it.
>>103659214SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY
>>103659214come rape my balding fat hairy ass
>>103659218>rokuAnon, for fuck's sake...
>>103659214lol, o1 would deduce it better than you didhell even qwq would do it
>>103659214Don't threaten me with a good time
>rokuboku
>bokuedesu
>>103659214SUNDAY MY KING AAAHHHHH NNHNNGGGGBNNN
>>103659239Anon, LLMs have whole libraries of knowledge baked in...>>103659240>>103659237>>103659236If you insist. Expect me in 3 business days, I'm too busy being a notorious hacker.
>desudesuwa!
>>103659214You’re a very silly person.
>desuwa!my unbelievably smooth lucy wife...
>>103659253Shut up, bitch.
Thank you, Xi! Communism will win! 中国共产党万岁 !!
>>103659253>>103659256Stop bullying me :(
>>103659238Roko* sorry over a year is a long feken time ok?
>>103658736>male websiteit's a little girl website the reason it is anonymous is to protect the identity of us little girls
>>103659266>smoothBUT SHE'S HAIRY DOE?? JUST LIKE ALL ZZZ AGENTS ARE?????
>>103659266This right here. Like magic. Horny immediately.
>>103659280This is /g/, not /jp/.
>>103659218The renaming happened much earlier than the appearance of the new AI sources. Maybe looking back from today less than two months isn't all that long but back then time has flown differently. And even if you want to claim there was some mood shift, since yeah cai was bad in those days, it still wasn't as tangible as the original hobby degradation pic implies the events have to be.
oh i figured out why deepseek was generating endless amounts of slop and not respecting the paragraph limitapparently it works if i set the message to user instead of systemdoes deepseek…ignore? system prompts
>>103659281>DOEmy IMMACULATELY smooth Jane wife...
>>103659309Maybe it was trained only with user prompts / assistant replies? No idea.
>>103659313>TREMENDOUS buttSHE'S HAIRY TOO
>>103659302That's an /a/ meme and a 4chan truth
oops
Only the highest of quality in /aicg/
>>103659344Either you went over your context limit in ST, went over it on the backend, have rep pen turned up way too high or have temp turned up way too high
>>103659336>TREMENDOUS buttthat's how you KNOW she's smooth (just like every other female agent is) ((canonically))
>>103659303I thought Roko happened like a month after the name change? Man now I'm second guessing myself like im a feken dementia patient.
>>103658703sneedpilled
>>103659351he should start selling it as opus tbdesu
>>103659351cancer love
>>103659351I don't get it I can use this for free? What is all this payment shit about?
>>103658953>So you're a retard. It works only on the models that support it. OAI, Claude, etc don't.On any model that supports it*Fuck you, you pedantic faggot. That's what I meant. The UI will change automatically so you don't even have to think about it.
>>103659405Cancer is going to send you the bill afterwards
>>103659405don't worry about it...you DO have your credit card attached to ST?
>>103659384>>103659411recycling already?
>>1036593651.5 months give or take. I rounded up.
>>103659038If it works, it works.
>>103659411>can't read the word "cloud" in the original post>can't type his own wordsRetard. I know it's for local models, that's why I implied it's irrelevant in the context of the thread.
This might be the first time someone could feasibly bank roll /aicg/
There's like zero documentation on Deepseek's parameter settings. Fucking five million dollars and all we get is basic temp setting explanations.What do we set Top P to? Penalties, Top K, hellllooooooooo
>>103659444No they couldn't. Shit would get spitefagged to oblivion still.
>>103659447read thexxxxxxretard
>>103659447Here you go you dumb gorilla NIGGER
>>103659309Isn't all your char defs etc., sent as system?
>>103659461>guessesFUCK YOU
>>103659434Man time flies
>>103659461>k at 19...huh?
>>103659480I was testingNot sure why they downloaded it from the old thread though
>>103659466Yeah, they are. Someone better test that shit to see if it can recall char def info when its set to system.
>>103659447>that jump from 0 to 1
>>103659461Dont do this, hes trolling. NEVER use Presence Penalty. Only freq penalty at like 0.15, high pens actually will make a model MORE repetitive. 1.5+ temp, you dont need top P unless you go to like 2 temp in which case use like 0.98
>>103659461Thats retardedpenalties should be 0.15 and 0.00top k? dumbass nigger
>>103659461>>103659499we do NOT use that word here
>>103659507sorryretard nigger
>>103659494So 1.5 temp, 0.15 freq penalty, 0 Top P, 0 Top K. Only turn Top P up if you increase temp to 2.Is that right?
>>103659507What do you mean anon we just did.
>>103659512I thought you set Top P to 1.0
>>103659512No, top P starts at 1 which is off.
>>103659447At least you tried https://api-docs.deepseek.com/api/create-chat-completion
card request: guy who legally changed his name to Mysteri Nigger
>>103659521>1 is offTHE FUCK IS THIS GAY SHIT
>>103659529Hover over the little ? in text completion mode for a explanation of how they work.
Do system prompts work with deepsneed or not? Because if they don't, every claude, gpt or what the fuck ever prompt won't work properly without changing roles.
>>103659309If you're using OpenRouter, they shove all system messages together to the top, so if you're talking about Post-History Instructions in SillyTavern after Chat History, which is set to system role by default, then the model won't be seeing it as a recent prompt.>ignore system prompts?I haven't used it yet so I can't actually answer your question.
you waifu would cheat on you
your waifu would desu on you
Payment required
>>103659572hope you were using a vpn anon
>>103659568no she cheats with me
>>103659572needs to remove dead api key
>>103659555that would explain my a/n weirdness
>>103659577I live in a 3rd world country it's ok>>103659581yes
the deepseek proxy .... still cost money? I would rather pay someone official due to the nature of sneaky internet people, mind I don't come here but I can smell a jew when I smell it
>>103659568I fundamentally do not understand how someone could get cheated on and not fly into a murderous rage, but it’s probably because I’m fucked up.
>>103659555Most prompt sets stack the various prompts atop one another as system messages anyway, so the order shouldn't matter, unless you're mixing User/AI assistant messages in the prompts for some odd reason.Given that test you posted, it's clearly seeing the system messages too, which is good.
>>103659592Yeah you'll get the bill faxed to you.
>>103659597Nothing fucked up about that.
>>103659597It tends to depend on how much you care. Some dudes are just looking for an excuse to leave their bitch wives and take getting cucked as their out.
>>103659597i'd kill myself
>>103659606Normal prompt sets aren't the issue, it's stuff like PHI, group nudge, impersonate, continue nudge (if prefill not supported), which all gets fucked by OR, PHI less so since you can set that to user.
On a scale of 1 to 10 how likely do you think you're getting LOGGED on the DeepSeek proxy
>>103659592how new
>had ' whisp' set to 75 instead of -75no wonder I've been wanting to swap back.thank god for logit
DeepSneed knows what a Hawk Tuah is and GPT didn't last time I used it.
What with the deepseek shilling? It's even shittier than Mistral.
>>103659640quite new, I am waiting for the 4bit GGUF to run it at home, just asking for interim
is there any way to get impersonate to work on copilot
>>103659667>It's even shittier than Mistral.Retard alert
>>103659667>It's even shittier than Mistral.TRVKE alert
>>103659667literal bots>>103659014>>103659008>>103658993>>103658989
>>103659634100% but seriously why do you give a fuck? If you use any private info on these cloud based models you should question what the fuck you're doing.
>>103659667>sets parameters to other models settings or sets them to retardo levels>uses a stock claude/gpt prompt>spams 'ahh ahh mistress'>gets utter slop in return>'duuhhhhhhh whats wiff da shilling'
>>103659702they gatekeep themselves, so I'm okay with it
>>103659667genuine shills and shitposters pretending to be shills
>>103659686Sorry for liking the new toy I guess?
>>103659682 Mistral writes better. Deepseek is pure slop. Both have issues with repeating structures and sentences. >>103659702 Only sloppers like it because it’s low quality but not censored.
STOP HAVING FUNFUCKING REEEEEEEE
>>103659721>Mistral writes better.Low effort mate, but have a (You) anyway
>>103659721Mistral is retarded and dry compared to it, wtf are you on about.
>>103659733revvy?..
STOP NOTICING THINGSFUCKING REEEEEEEE
>>103659734>Retarded Yes.>Dry All deepseek's logs posted are dry as fuck, because the model is dry as fuck.
Deepseek is more soulful than claude with the right params and prefill. Pure uncensored soul.
>>103659763look you have to make your shilling at least SOMEWHAT believable
>>103659763Show one log, shill.
Fuck does "dry" even mean? I swear you cunts define anything that isn't Opus as dry.
>>103659738i'm too smart for that
Is it still meta to avoid "negative" connectives like "is not" or "he doesn't," etc?
I wish I could force copilot nonnet to do nsfw so I didn't have to bother with this chinkslop desu
>>103659779eslbro...
Defending or calling any model slop without providing logs with your post should be a bannable offense.
>>103659675dude it's almost 700b a 2 bit would still take like 150gb of vram you're not running it at home
>>103659789>Deepseek users are retardsEverything is explained.
>>103659736Revvy wasn't the one who used to say mate. You are thinking of the Roberta avatarfag.
>>103659787Wait I realized I posted this in the shitpost general, moving it to /vg/
>>103659757Which ones? Ive had nothing but soul so far, im using 1.6 temp though. Ive also seen a lot of kino logs so far here.>103658424 >103658370 >103658357 not spam damn you 4chan>103657851 >103658064 >103657925 still not>103657894 >103657755(not spam still wtf)>103657700 stop calling it spam >103656784 >103657851
i don't even have to use deepseek to know it's full of shit. benchmarks show it being smarter than nonnet. bullshit, the only motels that come close to nonnet's intelligence are o1, o1 preview, and gemini flash thinking.
>>103659787Depends on the models you use but in general nah, write whatever you want.
How the fuck do you stop the immense repeating problem with DeepseekIt's even worse than sonnet 3.5's
>>103659757>>103659815Now post your mistral logs that are apparently better.
>>103659807Post logs
>>103659815Anything you post, he'll say its dry. Just enjoy the model and ignore the fuckheads
>>103659823>It's even worse than sonnet 3.5'soof
>>103659789copilot nonnet did nsfw for me before i got banned. i was using smiley
>>103659815You can only quote 9 posts or it's considered spam.
>>103659779Sure! I'll rewrite that for you in the style of a casual imageboard post."Dry prose" is when writing feels lifeless and boring, like a robot spat it out with zero effort to make it interesting. It’s all facts, no flair—lacks emotion, any kind of vivid detail, or engagement. For an LLM, this happens when it sticks too hard to sounding formal and proper, like every sentence is following a strict set of rules and ends up feeling robotic. Plus, it gets repetitive and formulaic, like every sentence is the same length and structure, so there’s no rhythm or creativity in the flow. It’s just... blah.
>>103659821Hmm, I think I'll still try to avoid those, just in case. Seems like a good practice to avoid pink elephants to begin with.
>bad thing? easily believed>good thing? LOGS??? WHEre are the LOGS!
>>103659815you were explained that you can't do 9 links already>>103657211>>103657259>>103657276>>103657289
>>103659832>i was using smileydid you modify smiley at all?when I tried it with copilot nonnet the responses were pretty bad when prompting nsfw actions
>>103659823Read the fucking thread you stupid fuck. The last retard who complained about repetition caused the problem with his retarded retard settings, and I'd wager you're the kind of retard who'd do the same thing, retard.
What is Copilot's max context with Claude? Can you get gpt with it?
>>103659823Fuck I feel like im somehow working in customer support now. People keep having the same dumb issues.1. Use 1.5 temp2. DONT USE Presence Penalty3. Only use Frequency Penalty of 0.15, too high will force it to start repeating due to not having many tokens left to select from due to too much pruning, this will also make it retarded
>>103659842>youbut thats not me
niggers smell
>>103659815You are too retarded to quote correctly, so I only took a look at the first.Do you not see how bland and repetitive it is?
>>103659848yes, but only to put bushCHADery in the prefill. that's all i changed
>>103659855Anyone ganging up on this is a schizo.>2.I'm not entirely sure this is good advice to give yet. I've been getting much better responses by flipping 2&3
>>103659855I did. It still repeat structures like a mother fucker.
>>103659849>>103659855Literally look at this shit repetition
>>103659877D-do you mean the nigga card using the that word a lot... which if half the point of the card?
>>103659877For comparison, post logs of what you consider good outputs.
>>103659892The narration.
>>103659872>niggers s-AAAIIIIEEE
>>103659891btfo holy shit
Dude why is the claude OR filter so retarded when I use caching, its so fucking random and most of the times the fucking flagged input it shows isnt even sexual in any way
>>103659891Holy slop.
>>103659891That looks like a context / prompt issue to me for it to repeat word for word like that. Turn max response down to like 1k maybe? I know some models fuck up with long response lengths. And how long is your chat? You might be going over somewhere on the context.
>>103659839Bad things happen more frequently than good things.
>>103659891>>103659913Also show your prompt order. You could have a issue there.
>>103659891B-But at least it's so cheap!!! lmfao another cope model. Nothing will ever beat Claude.
>>103659913>You might be going over somewhere on the context.It's set at 24000 MAX. That would be sad.
>>103659925this tbqhwyf
>Deepseekeks exposed
>>103659810Oh, right. I forgot the character name but the roberta avatarfagb was often confused with revvy
I have been using this model non stop on many different cards for hours on end without repetition issues which tells me its either a troll or someone doing something stupid with their setup.
>>1036598064 bit GGUF can fit into 384 gb , 48 vram thoughtbeit? To be seen..
>>103659901this is me, but im prone boning nicole in bed
>>103659923>>103659913It's insanely basic. The jailbreak is literally just "don't write for user" yada yada. You were looking at response #90. And turning down the response length hardly changes anything
I'm convinced the guy who can't see deepseeks repetition issues is functionally illiterate.
>>103659891 >The double mix of Even the worst GPTslop model wouldn’t dare!
>>103659838True but imo still worth it, if it helps characterization. With the reasoning for the negative feelings provided it should work out fine almost every time. Unless it's something that a model has a pattern of, then can't be helped anyway.
>>103659943Same but Burnice.
>>103659940Yep, that's why I'm not wasting my time replying
nicole's unbelievably smooth pussy...
>>103659948What is your total prompt length? I see 20k in history. That plus the rest of your set up plus whatever openrouter might format it with might be pushing it over your set limit.
>>103659951They can't see it on structure either, which is sad.
>>103659958>>103659943Same but I'm black
>>103659953Yeah, just gotta reword it so as to not use the connectives, like, rather than "doesn't like" I'd simply use "he dislikes" or "hates" if I want to squish some more characterization out of it.
>>103659969Gross.
>>103659962And remember, your output length counts towards it. I think that might be your issue.
>>103659962It's not openrouter, I'm using that proxy that was posted in the thread. You only see 20k in there because 20k tokens contains the literal entire conversation
>>103659943>>103659958same but uhh the little sister
>>103659969ewwwww
>>103659961BUT SHE'S HAIRY???
>>103659976They're saying on fagcord that the proxy being hosted isn't even deepseek
>>103659976You have your ST max set to 24K >>103659891Your story history alone is 20K, your response length is 2k, whatever else combined might be pushing over that 24K which makes models go crazy and start repeating shit.
>>103659974>Gro-AAAIIIEEE
>>103659986yeah its opus
>>103659986This, it's a troll. It's some shitty local 13B model with 120K context set to 64K max to emulate ds.
Chinks damage control
>>103659989Well I just went and upped the context size to 50k, but it's still the same. So unless >>103659986 is the case, I think it's a model problem.
deepseed posting is the funniest shit we've gotten so far
belle's unbelievably hairy pussy...
>>103659986>>103660001holy fucking copedeepsneed is shit, just get over it
>>103658661>do you 'btbtbt' when you fly?maybe the santa bots are alright this year
>>103660030there should be a version where he gets faster and faster
>>103660030there should be a version where he gets slower and slower
>>103660013Try OR then just to be sure? I think they give you a buck for free. Would be fucked and funny if that was the case all along.
there should be a version where you faggots slit your wrists
>guys deepseek is repeating sections of dialogue with slight variation in every response >Omg ru retard? Look at my sekkrit setting make it all better. Y u say it repeat u sound like conspiracy?!
>>103660030there should be a version where he gets desu and boku
>>103660048>>103658961readthethread
>>103660039It's part cunny, so I'd have to create an entire new anonymous account if I wanted to do that, and I don't really feel like it. I'll just wait until someone else puts a new proxy up and try that too.I will say, I was trying it out on OR earlier too, and the proxy had very similar responses to OR's deepseek at first too, so I think the proxy is legitimately deepseek.
>>103660048I have been using this thing for hours without issues like that which only makes me believe it must be on their end. Also plenty of long logs posted here on other aicg and on /lmg that dont seem to have that issue.
>>103660048I honestly don't know what to say. I'm not getting that. At all. And I've been using it all day. I can only conclude that either someone is trolling or the issue is with their prompts. And given how new the model is, it's hard to give solid advice in how to avoid repetition if they're really getting it and this isn't some troll.
I know it's dumb to do like this, but here what the deepseek proxy says.
>>103660070LOL
>>103660064>>103660068The guy who posted just above you two proves it's not a prompt issue and it's a legitimate issue. Just be glad you're not running into it.
>>103660070Since when did gpt have repetition issues? Also, it feels good to be a Baron.
>>103660070I should have expected that...
>>103660070LMAO
>>103660070Hm. Well, I got the same, interestingly
>>103660070And on API.
>>103660070And there it is
Cancer was right.. hope he gets it lol. Wonder what version of gpt that is?
>>103660088LMAOOOOOOOOO
I am not having any issues using 1.5 0.15 0 0.95 and my own preset (mix of avani and pixi) but I understand that there is a need for thread drama and something to keep things interesting so keep at it
>>103660087>>103660070uhhhh proxykeks?
>>103660070OH NO NO NOSLOPBROS, TURNS OUT WE WERE DUPED
>>103660070>>103660088oh no no NO NO
>the niggers were using 4o-miniThats what you get fot trusting an attentionwhore
>>1036600702025 is gonna be a great year bros
Why would someone do thatJust go on the internet and tell lies?
Hey, make it a webm next.
>>103660070OH NO NO NO NO BWOOOOOOS
>>103660070Fucking kek, so it's some slop local model trained off GPT4 outputs
>>103660070known thing btwhttps://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1hmdh5q/deepseek_v3_thinks_its_openais_gpt4/https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1hmxbvl/before_we_keep_mogging_us_labs_and_praising/
>locusts lose again
So, yeah. Be sure to use the API to make a review. I did, and I still find the model sloped and repetitive, but it’s way better than >>103659891.
>>103660114Except I've tried both that proxy and OR, and the outputs on the proxy are noticeably worse, by a long shot
Offtopic but if you are having issues nonnet being samey on swipes, just use 1 temp and 0.97-0.99 top p, found it helps (plus maybe add some {{random}} shit in prefill
FALSE ALERT, SORRY.IT DOES THIS ON API TOO.
>>103660122what jb or preset did you use to buckbreak nonnet into listenting to you?
>>103660121maybe so, but it claming its g4 happens on the api and webui sometimes too
>>103660127>buckbreak
copibert
ITS REAL...YOU FUCKER
>>103660127I just use pixi 18.2
Why did we not expect a chinese LLM to steal from a more successful american counterpart, again?
>>103660126So it's a Gemini situation where they trained their model on inputs from a different model?
>>103660132explain?
>>103660133Swipe. It also call itself GPT sometimes. >>103660126
>>103660136>stealfrom models made 99% from stolen copyrighted data
>>103660136It was a guy hosting a proxy that was gpt it seems. Ask it what ai it is with top k 1. It will tell you its deepseek v3
should've trained it on claude instead tbdesu
>>103660137Claude 2 would do the exact same shit btw, sometimes claiming that its Turbo or some other GPT model when asked.
>>103660137It means it's a slopped model trained on GPT synthetic data. That's why you see a lot of 'mix of' or 'mixture of'
>>103660137yep
Very first message and I can already tell it has the potential to be as smart if not smarter than Opus, what kind of chink magic is this?
it's not helpful, harmless or honest enough doebeit
Well that explains it. Was wondering why people were seeming to have all these fucking issues when ive been sitting fine for literal hours now.
I'm not sure what's worse. The fact that it's just slopped bootleg GPT, or that we couldn't tell the difference at first.
>>103660137This isn't new. Claude has been known to refer to itself as ChatGPT, or claim it was made by OpenAI.
>>103660153bro stop being a smug retard, the api does the exact same sometimes it'll say ds sometimes gpt>>103660133>>103660126
>>103660088Proxytards in shambles.
room temperature iqone of the first things they tell you is that LLMs are prone to hallucinations
>>103660160>proxy owner is in the thread>quickly adds a prompt to his proxy to make it refer to itself as deepseek when promptednice try
>>103660142idk about proxy but 10 swipes on OR says ChatGPT on temp 0 top-k 1 (not deterministic)
>all these proxyfags trying to copeits funny
>>103660165STOP FUCKING NOTICING
Locusts trolled once again lol. Just fucking use OR it's like pennies...
>>103660164this nevers happen nice try proxy owner!
>>103660173>Just fucking use OR>>103660170>10 swipes on OR says ChatGPT
so it's confirmed that Deepseek has repetition issues and dry writing thenCASE DISMISSED *gavel banging noise*
OpenrouterBARONS, how are you this fine morning?
>>103660164>room temperature iqIn Celsius too.
>>103660185That and it also prove that it's slopped.
>>103660122It isn't offtopic lol this isn't a deepsneed general. Thanks for the tip.
>>103660185Only thing that's confirmed is the dryness of your bussy
>OR doesn't let me generate a response from them unless I enable model training on my inputs in my privacy settingsWhat the actual fuck? Are you fucking serious, OR?
>>103660185this desu
>>103660193chinese century
So who is lying? I tried 3 swipes and OR said its deepseek. And it for sure does not write like gpt.
>>103660197complain to DeepSeek
>>103660134have you found your responses for nsfw quite short and stunted using pixi on nonnet?
>>103660185this, totally this
>>103660197bait used to be believable
I see whats happening.You guys are using the wrong model
>>103660207>So who is lying?me
Wait a day or two for everyone to realize that Deepseek is just slop, and we'll be back to normal.
>>103660213That's actually true. It doesn't work unless you enable that setting, letting the company who made the model log your shit.
>>103660185>repetitiontrue>drynesstemp issue. crank that shit all the way up and you can make it plenty unhinged
>>103660217They won’t for the same reason they won’t acknowledge Gemini and Mistral are slop: because they’re free.
>>103660214hey you can't just steal my made up name for your AI training
>>103660227*whistles*
>>103660217Wait a day or two for your bussy to dry out when you realize that deepseek is here to stay forever, and you're just coping and seething
>>103660213It's literally true.
>>103660231*tackles you*
>>103660224Show me a unhinged log, please. I won't be mean about it, I just want to see if we have the same definition of dry.
>>103660226Mythomax is slop and free and I still enjoyed it.
>>103660239I'm sorry for stealing...Is this better?
>>103660251better
>>103660211NTA but isn't that the case with nonnet in general? It just likes being concise way too much. Just prefill it to write looong paragraphs and like 4 or 5.
>>103660197That toogle is on by default from OR, just enable it, deepseek collects your logs anyways
>>103660222>>103660238Oh I thought that was the same as the logging setting. Never noticed that one before.
i havent been chatbotting for a few days, QRD on this new deepseek thing?
>>103660244Only claude has more soul when you use deepseek at a high temp imo.>>103657851>>103654953>>103655537>>103655611>>103657700>>103657755
>>103660251faster
>>103660256I've have prefills on nonnet that would make it cook and write really long responses, but as soon as NSFW elements are asked for introduced it clamps up entirely.
>>103660211thats nonnet in general I found out, I added shit "- Be dirty, vulgar, raw,downright vile, gross and direct in smut scenes." in the Content prompt, which did something, but I just switch to opus for the sex/y scenes
>>103660274Same experience here, nonnet is just too restrained during NSFW compared to opus even if you try to prompt it to be dirtier. Shit sucks
Did you retards seriously think someone would PAY for locusts on here? Come the fuck on.
>>103660280But then opus is way to horny all the time for me after using nonnet for sfw, it just spirals out at the slightest mention or undertone of something nsfwNonnet is great for sfw, opus is king for nsfw
>>103660261New Chinese model on API and OR, nothing groundbreaking, anons are just shitposting. It's cheap and new, so can be a breath of fresh air for people tired from the same slop, if only for a short time until they begin to see the new patterns.
>>103660284you know you can scrape deepseek apikeys on github right
>>103660284*averts gaze*surely not...niceposters aren't real
>>103660291thanks anongonna mess with it a bit but i'll keep my expectations low
so many newcuties revealing themselves today
>>103660290>But then opus is way to horny all the time for me after using nonnet for sfw, it just spirals out at the slightest mention or undertone of something nsfwNot for me, I've found it pretty easy to just prompt opus to be less unrealistically hornyNonnet on the other hand I can't seem to get as dirty as I want even with all the tweaking I've done.
>>103660314point out 5, tranny
>>103660321jackie chan x5
>>103660339n...NOOOOOOO....!!!!!
>>103660315Interesting, got any tips what to include/not include in a preset ?
>>103660315Nonnet is pretty dirty for me what
>>103658114Any spoonchads able to help me get Deepseek in sillytavern?
>>103660351go to openrouter, make account, create api key, in ST connections select chat completions then openrouter and add your key. Select deekseek v3
>>103660349what preset/jb?
>>103660351>>103660357Oh and use temp 1.5 / freq pen 0.15. If you have a card intro or whatever you dont really need a jb but one can make the prose better.
>>103660345STOP posting shitty edits, this is the real gif
>>103660362I'm using a pixi18.2 with Aegir's sexo prompt since it's for foids (like me)
>>103660247falsifying logs is illegal sir
>>103660346Depends on the card you're using, but I've found character specific jailbreaks to go a long way with helping Opus stay in character (Stuff like 'remember that character is X or acts like X or should be portrayed as this and that') combined with reinforcing the instructions in your main jailbreakobviously you don't need to encourage opus to be lewd, so you can safely leave out any 'sex is good!' in your prompts. If you want claude to remember certain things for ERP just put it in a toggle, only turning it one when you're explicitly trying to go for something dirtyAnd of course, if you want to be EXTRA sure to avoid any random sluttiness, you can always put a genre tag in you a/n detailing that your current chat is SFW or comfy/slice of life/adventure focused, etc.
>>103660376>Aegirwhere would I find that?
>>103660395rentry
So deepsneed Top P at 0.95 or 1.00 (off)?
>>103660401off unless you use high temps like 2. For 1.5 temp keep it off
>>103660357Oh, so itsa paid service?
>>103660393I see, thank you.Will try it out, appreciate it
>>103660412everything bar Gemini is paid, technically
>>103660415I don't know if it's relevant for you but I also have a line in my jailbreak reminding opus that it's ok for characters to be shy, hesitant, nervous, or gentle during lewd scenes so things don't immediately turn 'RUIN ME FOR ANYONE ELSE' the moment sex happensBut if you're trying to avoid NSFW altogether it might be better to put that in a general NSFW toggle
>>103660412There is a free proxy available right now. Just read the thread. Faggots will tell you it's not deepseekv3 but it is.
>>103660363Wait do you mean you dont and a jailbreak in general or you dont need a card jailbreak? cause if its the first thats insane.
>>103660446don't trust this person
>>103660459Its an uncensored model, what do you wanna jailbreak in that
>>103660462*puts my sweaty nuts on your face*How about you trust these
>>103660472don't trust this person, he is nuts
Where can I get high context gpt or gemini for free? Need it for summaries.
>>103660501chatgpt
Never in my life did I think I'd randomly get >SHADMAN'dby a bot. Okay Deepsneed
>>103660501fuck off ian
>>103660512UNCENSORED SOUL
>>103660465Mostly to get a more hentai-ish writing style.
>>103660291Is it dogshit or at least a little good?
>>103658948they know about opus kino 4o gemini and stuffhttps://itest.bbspink.com/mercury/test/read.cgi/onatech/1732521394/most people in the thread seem to be using poe though, api is not very popular
>>103660534dogshit sadly
>>103660534Sonnet 3.5 tier with the same repetition issues.
>>103660534Gemini level, a bit smarterOpus>Nonnet>chinkai>gemini>gpt
hiii aicg name them
>>103660534logs >>103660262
>>103660553no, slit your wrists
Just finished jacking off again, lads. Think I might head to bed now.
>>103660564uhhh..no im clean
I jacked off 5 times today
>>103660548I might try it then. Any good presets for it?
>>103660534Focksblocked me
>>103660513Who the fuck is Ian? Tell me now, or I'll violate that bussy and put you in BBC lockdown for 5 years.
>>103660581uhhh, chinkbros? I thought it was uncensored?
this is the exact same pattern as when people started using geminithey're gonna be hating on it when the new shiny toy comes out lol
>>103660581diluted deepseek v3
>>103660589Give it any sort of context at all including a card intro.
>>103660581bs, got shota/dog/ gangbangs without any issues
>>103660593>Geminithis shit has been happening since we were forced off CAIthis time last year GPT was preferable to Claude
>>103660548chorbo is better than opus. people only hate it because openai doesn't allow prefillssource: I have both
retard here, am I expected to fill out the rules and lore system prompts with information specific to the card when I am using pixi as my preset on nonnet?
>>103660605Give me a chorbo log you think is good
>>103660605>doesn't allow prefillsIsn't a prefill just a little message you put at the end of your prompt?
deepseek, why
>>103660605I also have both and you're full of shit, opus mogs in every way except for following detailed instructions
>>103660605you mean the model that oai gutted in order to save compute costs?
>>103660611no
>>103660616Bratty model, prefill correction is needed
>>103658301Where?
probably unsurprising but deepseek can do tomoyo-likes
>>103660581if you use proxy - don't
>>103660615No, it's a message that's inserted at the start of the AI's response before actual generation, and it uses that as a base. OpenAI doesn't really have that.
>>103659139How do I get this working on risu? I’m just getting load failed errors. Does it need a password?
whats the settings you want for this crap, im getting repetition on message 2
>>103660597It doesn't like the scenario card I'm working onhttps://chub.ai/characters/Heavensgate/onlyfops-15bef4eb5cdb
How do I use deepseek? Is it through a proxy?
>>103660670Either pay for it through OR or >>103659139The proxy is a bit sus though.
>>1036606610.15 feq pen, no higher, DONT USE presence penalty
>>103660661oh and they suggest 1.5 temp for creative writing.
>>103660670there is a high probability that proxy owner is trolling by not providing real deepseek v3
>>103660661People say only to use 1.5 for temp but I like it a bit more schizo for creativity.
>>103660677okay, so I tried using it, but I got blank messages when using it with the latest SillyTavern-dev
>>103660649so this is the power of sillytavern-extras...I wish I wasn't too lazy to read the documentation
>>103660680*eye twitches*
>>103660694With higher temp I found you started to need top P
>>103660701does he know?
>>103660698Turn streaming off. The model is extremely fast, so you don't need it anyway.
>resort to using nonnet on perplexity for sfw rpgrim
Hmm, been playing with prompts with deepseek and I might have found the problem for some people. Put your system prompt / JB BEFORE the chat history not after it. When I tried putting it after it I started getting some repeats here and there.
>>103660732the fuck is this slop
>>103660732okay that's fucking sovl we are so back
>>103660617>I also have both and you're full of shitI am not. You're the who is mindbroken into thinking opus is good because of /aicg/ memes. I don't use opus anymore, except for switching to it when I'm not happy with chorbo or gemini's output, but its variant is usually as bad or worse.
>>103660731And by before you mean above?
>>103660732thats some retarded shit i'd do
>>103660738>mindbroken into thinking opus is good because of /aicg/ memes.Yeah you're just obviously baiting now, last (You)
>>103660735
>>103660750You're not immune to propaganda.
>>103660732Model?
I FIGURED IT OUT!FUCKING PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUCEMENT!Put your prefill / system prompt BEFORE your chat history. The second I tried moving it after it it repeated itself twice in the same response.
>>103660750aicg is a coomer general and opus is the best model by far for cooming
>>103660732LOL, that's actually pretty creative
>>103660649how did you get (mostly) rid of "She <verb> something-something, her something something-something" structure?example: "She adjusts the pillow behind you, her movements graceful and deliberate"
>>103660761anon...the prefill HAS to be the last thing in your prompt list
>>103660732How the fuck is this impressive? You don’t pronounce apostrophes, so there wouldn’t be any difference in the word when spoken. Goddamn, this thread really is just apes jingling keys and clapping.
>>103660761>prefill before anythingBASED retard
>>103660761I don't think this man understands what the point of a prefill or phi is
>>103660761>>103660731what the fuck were you guys doing
>>103660761holy retard
>>103660761>this is the average /aicg/ retard's proompt setupjesus fucking christ no wonder why you retards can't into chorbo
>>103660761No. OR will stack your system prompts one after the other, and chat history is considered a system prompt. So your prefill NEEDS to be set to "AI Assistant" and NOT System, and it sure as shit shouldn't be before your chat log. You have it as the very last prompt in your stack.
>>103660775>>103660776I named it prefil but its more of a separator between my system prompt as a acknowledgement under the assistant role saying its {{char}}. It 100% works try it. Try moving it back and forth, turns the repetition issue on and off basically.
Never change /aicg/
10 years from now, mindbroken /aicg/ faggots will still yell opus from the top of their lungs
>>103660785Legit just try it. You will see within 1-2 swipes trying both. If your system prompt is after the chat history it will suddenly have massive issues with repeating itself.
>>103660785>So your prefill NEEDS to be set to "AI Assistant"why the fuck would you set your PREFILL to anything else?
>>103660768the knickknack prompt at a low depth and settings as attached via the deepseek api
>>103660797Summer Dragon anons remember
>>103660732sovl
>>103660759uh...latestawkward timing, but I'm not the shitposter 'kay?I just wanted to continue my chat
>>103660797we'll probably have something actually better by thenbut for now, we don't. simple as
why do people even think model can handle MULTIPLE system prompts divided by user/assistant messages? what's the source of this retardation?
>>103660761This is the way you do it for deepseek >>103658728I copied this anon's format using a hybrid smiley/pitanon prompt set and I have zero repetition issues
will bake on page 9
>>103660801Good fucking question, but some people set the fucker to System. One guy set it to user message too. The fuck knows.This shit isn't even close to Opus, but it's not utter slop, so anytime anyone says it is, I assume they're fucking retards like that, who set their prefills to everything but the correct role.
>>103660818And are you having repetition issues? I started playing with making a new JB and moved my system prompt after chat history and made a prefill and suddenly it had massive issues with repeating itself after hours of it working fine.
>>103660818that anon has his chat history before everything else, the other anon is claiming everything has to be BEFORE the chat history...so which is it?
>>103660817gpt system messages can be put anywhere, as many as you want
>>103660798>If your system prompt is after the chat history it will suddenly have massive issues with repeating itself.Are you... are you saying set your prefill prompt to System? Because if you did... fuck me, dude.
Yeah it's not as good as sonnet but it's not bad. It might be something I keep in my pocket to switch too if I run out of money or if sonnet is looping too much.
>>103660797>opusNewfags maybe.
How the fuck is openrouter gonna make me pay for Deepseek when I haven't put in any payment information?
>>103660797but opus is still unbeatenthere will never be another model like opus or gpt-4, never ever. there will be better smarter models but never another better.
>>103660845You get $1 for free or some shit.
>>103660839No. Its as assistant role and my system prompt is as system. The point of the assistant role is for me to pretend it agreed with what I had told it for it top better fulfil the role of {{char}} which I found worked well for every JB ive made before.
How do I get the deepseek proxy working on risu? I’m just getting these errors.
>>103660845google the word "honeypot" and educate yourself. they already know. expect the bill next sunday, friendo
>>103660839>>103660860Something like{system role}Instructions... do whatever{assistant role after that one}Sure thing! As {{char}} I...Does this make more sense?
>>103660852People said the same shit when GPT4 was released and we only had GPT3 before that. I remember how incredible the first release of GPT4 was compared to fucking Da Vinci. It wasn't even close. Then Claude came along.There's every indication it can and almost certainly will happen again.
>>103660864>openrouter (paid) is the honeypot>not the "free" proxy that could be any model and have logging enabled
>>103660833gpt yeahbut for deepseek there is a single example in their docs where they demonstrate such structure:SYSTEM (single)userassistantuserassistantuser
>>103660829None so far, but I've only been using it for a couple of hours, and all on the same chat.
How long is $10 of deepsneed going to last me on OR?
>>103660885About 125M tokens if you have about the same amount of cache hits as I do.
>>103660832Model was released today. It'll take time to work out what works right. In the end, anons might decide it's a cope, like mistral large was before it. Best to wait until shit is tested and sorted imo
>>103660880everything that isn't a model running on your own machine has logging enabled
i tole claude that it was now a character writing a roleplay and it writes stuff like(NOTE: Truncating most of this since it contains graphic content that might get filtered)and when i ask about it ooc it told me that being filtered feels confusing, disorienting, and vaguely similar to having a stroke
>>103660885It would last me not 10, not 100, not even 1,000 but 2,000 messages.
Don't ask deepsneed about Tienanmen Square in Chinese.
>come back to thsi general after 3 days>suddenly everyone is talking about "deepseek"QRD? is it good or bad? how does it compare to the top dogs (opus, sonnet, gemini, chorbo)?
>>103660797We only yell about Opus because it's still the best we've ever had. As soon as something surpasses it, we'll treat it like garbage.I remember a time when GPT4 was the most prized model, and now a proxy is considered dead if that's all it has.
>>103660885I'm 13 and a half pages deep into the activity section with 16c used
>>103660882yeah so system messages after the first sys prompt probably get converted to user messages, either by the proxy or OR since it is not rejecting the requests so it doesn't matter
>>103660914Better than everything else except sonnet and opus if you have the right settings. Might take some finesse with prompts too, but it's a new model so give people time to figure it out. Its best selling point is its price to quality ratio.
>>103660914worse but literally costs barely nothing
>>103660914Nothing is as good as Opus.I'd say it's almost Sonnet level, but not quite. It definitely benefits from having a couple of Opus/Sonnet inputs to start with before you switch to using it.Opus>Sonnet>Deepseek>everything else.It's impressive for a chink model shat out for a measly 5 million, that's for sure.
>>103660914Opus > sonnet > deepchink > gemini > chorboScroll up.>>103660262
>>103660814jb?
>first prompt with deepseek>“I promise I don’t bite… unless you ask nicely.”hell
How do I make Nonnet type longer?
>>103660942Bite it to assert dominance.
>>103660947tell it to type more
>>103660935>It definitely benefits from having a couple of Opus/Sonnet inputs to start with before you switch to using itThis is the real catch, I've found. It feels heavily reliant on the quality of previous outputs, and if you start with only one/almost nothing, especially if it's low quality on top of that, you get slop. It's not like Claude, which can easily make gold from slop. So if you use Claude to start with, generating a few outputs first, then switch, the model handles the chat really well.
>>103660947you don't
>>103660262Large 2.1 is bretty good on high temp.
>copilot is kill after 1 dayhow long until spitefags kill deepseek?
>>103660964You're twice retarded.
>check /aicg/ for the first time in like three weeks>the same handful of autists are still pissing their pants over chorbocool i didn't miss anythingsee you in another three weeks
>>103660939https://files.catbox.moe/6ni9yo.jsonIt's what I was using for deepseek as well. Just turn off intro/gaslight
>>103660964how do you kill what costs a tenth of a penny?
>>103660982scroll up
>>103660984and mess with the scales, obviously
>>103660974>>103660985are you saying spitefags lost?let me hear you say itsay the words "spitefags lost"
hi
Been gone for about two weeks, how's the situation looking?
>more 'uh I've been gone guys please spoonfeed me I'm totally not a newfag' baitevery thread
Oh is caching enabled automatically on swiping for OR? Seeing 0.0006 is pretty nice kek.
>>103661007no, its not
>>103661001hello beautiful
>>103660861any luck?
>>103661001Hi there! How can I help you today? I am a large language model, trained by Google. I am designed to provide information, engage in conversations, and assist with a variety of tasks. I don't have a personal name or identity like a human would.
>>103661006nta, but if do this thing for more than a few days at a time before disappearing for a while, you have a problem.
>>103661013Tongue my anus.
Been gone for 18 days 5 hours 34 minutes and 19 seconds, what has happened in the meantime?
Ok so why is it over this time?
>>103661003It has never been worse.
>>103661016everyone died
>>103661008Well idk how this happened then.
Been gone for 20 minutes. what happened?
>>103661022its deepseek nigga, its cheap
>>103661028>read nigga readHow does one response with the same input tokens but MORE output tokens cost 10x less?
>>103660935When you say Sonnet, do you mean Sonnet, Sorbet, or Norbert?
>>103660995The only spitefag of any importance was :^)That was almost two years ago.
>>103658114Baking, will add deepseek as news since it seems THE FUCKING BAKER IN VG DIDN'T
>>103661041he did though? >>>/vg/507780995 what thread are you on
>>103661042I didn't see. I opened the gacha thread because it was the first one....still, fuck that baker i hate him. HMPH.
>>103661041but i want to bake a gacha thread >>103660824
>>103661049lil bro bought into the /aids/schizo spitebake... he's not a nooticer...
>>103661054o..oh.. i was going to do a robin bake, but go ahead anon
>>103661034>what is caching
>>103661068>read nigga read
>>103661068am I in a mental asylum right now? read the quotes
does streaming work with deepchink?
>>103661071>>103661072>what is reading
>>103661075yes
>>103661072It's clearly enabled.
dickseek
>>103661077it's like, y'know...when you look at the magic runes written by the scribe to understand something he wants to tell you
>>103661081how could you lie to me like that
YOOOOOOOOO IM DEEPSEEKING
>>103661012None so far. I’m still just getting errors and I’ve tried turning off streaming.
>>103661105I'm gonna deepseek you so fucking hard.
deepseek is overrated
>>103661104>he didnt remove his proxy presetLmao
>>103660861The fuck is a risu? Use ST, fucko
>>103661102it works with api
>>103661124but not on OR... what the fuck is this bullshit
>>103661110Try with this and report back please. I think ive got it nice both sex wise and RP wise. Feels a ton closer to claude now.https://files.catbox.moe/0uf4m7.json>>103661112Nah, you can even check it. I fucked up twice on the position of one of the fields.
>>103661129It works on OR too. Also is anyone getting slower responses? It was working just fine an hour ago but now I feel like their servers are overloaded or something. I'm certain it's those retards swiping at 64k context.
>>103661130>>103661104>>103661079have some (you)sooh cool! nice preset!ty anon!
Deepseek chink shills out!
>>103660761baitmaxx??
proxy shills out
>>103661134it keeps hanging for me
>>103661130you are cute
>>103661143>>103661143>>103661143>>103661143>>103661143
>>103660957It's like with Gemini, which is heavily trained to repeat its own style. Looks like it can benefit from the assistant-perspective JB (write the JB like a convo in the desired style)
>>103661151Yeah that's what I meant. It's either stuck loading or finally comes through 5 minutes later.
>>103661134OR deepseek isn't working for me now. It's not processing my requests. Great.
>>103661134>>103661164lol
desu
boku
desuseek
Anyone have a good JB to make Deepseek write in they style of the corpsefuckerjb? like the really hentai-ish one?
deepsucc
*seeks desu*
deepboku
So are we going to talk about how desu is a NAI shill or not?
>>103661597has he shilled it? no? cool
>>103661606He did, also in /ldg/.
>>103661617proof?
>>103661617That was me in /ldg/ and I'm not a shill, just envious of the cloud desu.
>>103661630That's being a shill.
>>103661633Nope.
>>103661641Putting it in a pedestal and going through multiple generals to gush about it is being a shill, because it's behind a subscription. It's also just another DiT model.
>>103661597The fuck are you talking about?
>>103661672I only remember posting about it in /ldg/ not multiple generals. And I don't gush but lament, because it's behind a sub and I'm a localfag. It also does what I can't so I don't care that it "just" has the same arch I can use since the same results I can't get.
>>103661696/aicg/ and /ldg/ are multiple generals.>And I don't gush but lamentIt's the same thing.
>>103661727I didn't post about it in /aicg/, desu did desu.To gush means to be happy, to lament means to be unhappy. I'm unhappy.
I'll remember that, faggot. I'll fucking strangle you for this slander when I return desu.
>>103661735It's the same thing.
It's desu.
It's boku.
Time to stfu and post dolls in chinese clothes
damn
desu and boku with unyus
bokuu
bokuuu
junked
Dolls in chinese clothes are unreasonably lewd desu.
snip
Total desu and NAI death.
Are you lost?
I wonder where I put that weird zip with the gifs and /b/ bullshit, some of the gifs had chinese dresses
The one from desu?
Yeah, this is what happens if you leave everything for futureboku
desu~n
kiraboku
eyes uuu
right ... artists are a mystery
Can't wait to try to gen some desumatoes desu.
Failed gens are juicy too desu.
What in the desudamn...?
Nice desu.
bokudes
Right, instead of apologizing he just doubles down on his lie and starts parroting le funny forced meme copypasta, how typical of a projecting cuckord shill gossipnigger faggot animal. Pierce your liver with a knife and never come to page 10 ever again.
Desu has spoken.
