/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbotsRobin Edition>NewsDeepseek releases V3 https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news1226OpenAI announces o3 models, currently in early evaluation testing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKBG1sqdyIUNon-preview OpenAI o1 released on API to usage tier 5 users, "rollout will continue over the next few weeks." https://x.com/OpenAIDevs/status/1869156065788715409Gemini 2.0 Flash released, "more model sizes" in January https://developers.googleblog.com/en/the-next-chapter-of-the-gemini-era-for-developers/additional info: https://rentry.org/aicg_extra_information>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides>Botshttps://characterhub.org | https://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://char-archive.evulid.cchttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://rentry.org/meta_bot_list>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrlocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://rentry.org/meta_golocal_list | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_listhttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOPaicg botmaking events: https://rentry.org/meta_event_listlore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclescard v3 status: https://rentry.org/zdwfrgqqservices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metalogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/logs/reader | https://chatlogs.neocities.orglatest proxies: https://rentry.org/desuproxyrebornLast Melody: >>103658114
>AAAAAAHN~CHOR
>>103661148would
'nt
>finally go to try deepchink>you retards broke itthanks a lot faggots
Lust provoking anchor...you're playing with fire baker
not how you make a contraction retard
Guess I'll post it here as well then. I rewrote the "your reality" JB a bit for deepseek. It fixes its dryness in sexual moments im so far. https://files.catbox.moe/0uf4m7.json
Dickseek won
name her
>>103661183>Jack-O poseBased taste
the smell of sunday's sister's pussy...
>>103661130it's generating great stuff but where's the 'does not speak for me' toggle?
>>103661183that's some useless shibari
>>103661195it's so smooth...
>>103661197The first or second person options.
>>103661174is it turbo filtered now?
>>103661178I'll do what'ver I like anon'ie
>>103661197>>103661209Otherwise towards the end but before the chat history just add something tell it "You will never speak nor write for {{user}}. The user controls that character."
>>103661214it's not giving any responses on OR
>>103661183SlopBot3872
Yep, Deepchink is broken on OR, thanks cunts
Think its down atm.
It's overLet's pool and get 800 GB worth of RAM sticks
>>103661220testing some cunny and its working
Well, at least I'm a Baron and can go back to Sonnet/Opus with ease.
dunno bros I'm having repetition issues as well
>>103661234api
>>103661234Nigga he said OR, not your custom endpoint
>>103661242Try >>103661179I've tested this for awhile now with no issues with repeats.
>>103661143How do you use DeepSeek? My OR money are for Opussy only
>>103661260just a warning, its ultra repetitive
>>103661260Deepseek is 1000x cheaper than it.Drop that Slopus and hop on Deepseek OR
Does the deepseek proxy work on risu or not?
>>103661272Make sure the chat history is at the end of the context and that you have 0.15 freq pen and no presence penalty. All your repetition problems are gone.
>using deepchink to continue my opus roleplaysthis actually isn't a bad cope at all, but I'm skeptical about how it'll do on raw chats
>>103661283Nobody fucking uses risu god damn you
>>103661219>>103661209thanks, I turned on the second person toggle and it immediately started speaking for me so definitely needs it.
>>103661272>what is frequency_penalty>what is presence_penalty
desu
>2 tpsSomeone fucked up.
>>103661253>Emphasize pony anatomy for pony characters, remember that ponies are quadrupedal equines.>Focus on keeping all My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic characters perfectly in-character at all times.kys ponyfag, go back to your contaiment thread
>>103661296neither have fixed that issue for me
>>103661287How does it handle long form SFW roleplay? And does copilot for Nonnet still work? I was out for the holidays all day long yesterday >>103661289
>>103661303Kek, I still forgot some?Here, fixed.https://files.catbox.moe/waj8fp.json
>>103661283I'm sorry anon, but that's the reason why no one's answered.
cute /mlp/tard...
>>103661253I'll try it but I'll probably have to do heavy modifications to suit my needs since I have my own presets that deal with the specific stuff that I want.>>103661287I fucked around with the parameters for a while and nothing fixes it
FIX IT ON OPENROUTER YOU FUCKING JEWS
>>103661206UHM. BUT IT'S NOT DOE?? IT'S HAIRY??? LIKE EVERY FEMALE IN STAR RAIL??????
>>103661311I've been doing little else since... well last morning lol. I'm fucking addicted. Its drier than claude but is the first model actually competitive with it in the smarts / random knowledge which is claudes strength. It was clearly trained on degen stuff like A archive of our own / fanfiction / fimfiction / literotica...No other model knows the stuff it does besides claude. I think ive fixed a ton of the dryness now though. It gets pretty spicy.
>>103661143Anyone have a good JB to make Deepseek write in they style of the corpsefuckerjb? like the really horny one?
>>103661183Is her eye supposed to be all fucked up like that?
>>103661305Since OR doesn't respond I consneed.
>>103661363I tried but I cant quite get to gemini level of horny with it. Might need some context to work off of.>>103661319
>>103661347Just to be clear.When you say 'repetition' are you talking about swipe variety, or actual repetition over multiple messages?
>>103661148Since I'm not sure jollyanon saw my response in the other thread - thanks for the gift! Berry nice pic btw, the first one gave me a hearty kek too. Will burn my leftover credits to bully her on holidays, probably send mail after the fact.Might as well shill once while on topic - my Secret Santa gift for momoura, themed after quote-unquote "a deep sense of nostalgia".~1800 AD. The industrial city of Borgovia is gripped by political strife between the scientific Wyrd Fellowship and the Alchemists' Guild, and the only remaining place of Rational discourse is an underground steam-powered speakeasy pub - the eponymous Boiler Room, where the last sane(?) adherents of the factions coexist during heated debates.https://characterhub.org/characters/rayon/the-boiler-room-ef434757b1e3/mainThis is my first attempt at OC - an autistic(-as-usual) scenario card, with a steampunk/weird science bent, fat lorebook and 6 greetings introducing different characters.1) 'Main' greeting with the bartender (Alice) giving you a rundown of the Room.2) The owner of the place (Theodore). Listen to him yap, cringe at how euphoric he is, etc.3) Resident buxom bounty hunter extraordinaire (Miranda), doing whatever as long as she is paid.4) Tall-dark-handsome(?) amnesiac bouncer ("Atlas").5) Rich brat hebe alchemist (Stella). Low alcohol tolerance, high chuunibyou retardation, dank meme greeting.6) TOUHOU HIJACK LOL ("Skysong"). Yes, literally. Started as a meme but actually turned out great imo, Sonnet and surprisingly Deepseek pick up on what I wanted pretty well.Be warned - there are NO GENS for the characters, you're gonna have to use your imagination. I couldn't make them look passable in time, I'm too rusty with SD. Gomen.Belated merry (Catholic) Christmas, faggots.>captcha J0VAR
>>103661367putting context at the end actually fixed it, now i can eat sweet cunny in peace
>>103661324Damn.
>>103661377swipe variety is fixed with 1.5 temp. Repetition over multiple messages was caused by having any sort of interruption after the chat history (I STRESS THIS PUT CHAT HISTORY LAST IN THE ORDER) it seems or too high rep pen.
>>103661303Imagine seething about cartoon horses for 14 years straight
did they mess the colours up?
>500 internal server error 500 internal server error >500 internal server error 500 internal server error >500 internal server error 500 internal server error
>>103661148OnlyFops> kitsune tail-brushing asmrhttps://chub.ai/characters/Heavensgate/onlyfops-15bef4eb5cdb
>>103661377nta but for me it's over multiple messages>>103661392doesn't seem to be doing it for me
>>103661417her unbelievably hairy pussy...>>103661406their unbelievably hairy pussies...
routerbarons, it's over...
AIIEEEEEE
I guess they are getting overwhelmed lol. Hopefully back in a few mins.
>>103661428ok but WHY do you keep saying this over and over?
>>103661397explain
>>103661287this worked for a bit but patterns are re-emerging after a few more messages
yeah bros I'm starting to think that this is just another nothingburger slopcal model like every single one before it.
Cant tell deepseek is better or sonnet Sometime is decent but sometimes its dull as fuck...
>>103661241sonnet is free though
>>103661450Green=OpenRouterOrange=OtherGreen is currently a flat line, while orange is spiking.
>>103661392How does your JB handle chats with multiple NPCs?
>>103661471its slop
>>103661471you're so esl I wouldn't worry about it, you won't be able to tell any difference anyway
>>103661453Im running out of ideas then. Your freq pen is like 0.15, no presence pen? I legit have spent hours on end using it and really have no had issues outside of when I put something last in the order being the chat history.
>new model for dark roleplaying>immediately overwhelmed with traffic and paying customersWow it's almost as if AI ethicists are the reason why AI companies are struggling
>>103661502last in the order *behind* the chat history
>>103661502yeah increasing freq penalty doesnt do anything... the issue is it doesnt repeat verbatim, but it gets into repetitious patterns
Which models is mysteryman and mini serving right now? Are any of the older proxies even hosting any flavor of Claude?
a mix of experts....
>>103661491your logit?
>>103661453>>103661502do this
>>103661511Try a different card?
>>103661524Oh? I wonder if that could be it. That would indeed introduce repetition.
>>103661523logit bias only shows for OAI and ive never had luck banning tokens
>103661517her unbelievably hairy pussy...
>>103661397>>103661478means OR itself is up but the endpoint is fucked
>>103661517MM has gpt, gemini, mistral, and specfically claude 2. i don't know why he doesn't have the other claudes.
>>103661534Uh...Have you looked?
>>103661508To be fair, this model is incredibly cheap.
why cant she admit she's having fun sucking my cock?
>>103661544>GeminiReally? Since when?What's the proxy address for that and Mistral?At this point, I'm willing to try anything that isn't GPT4 1106 or 4o.
>>103661524Ok, updated it then. Hopefully that fixed the repetition issue once and for all.https://files.catbox.moe/9oq8pj.jsonAs a reminder for others:Don't use presence penaltyKeep frequency penalty low, like 0.1-0.15Use 1.5 or so tempUse 0.95 top P or such if 1.5 or higher temp to avoid getting bad swipes with logic / anatomy errors.This should fix and issues with deepseek being either dry or repetitive.
>>103661569you aren't that anon methinks
>>103661563Anon, just check the rentry.
ako's OBSCENELY hairy pussy
>>103661531The model is INCREDIBLY sensitive to repetition, even if it appears in ways the user can't see. I'll preface this with he fact I love deepseek, but you need to treat the reptation issue like you would a sterile lab. Zero contamination. Once it sees something one too many times, it's all it sees.
>>103661524other anon here, slightly better, but it still does get caught up in repetitive structures the longer the chat goes
Insane how all of /aicg/ went from MEGADOOM to euphoria from a fucking LOCAL model, lol
>>103661578The rentry has the proxy but all the information is hidden with the OK page for months now. I just need the endpoint address.
>>103661591speak for yourself, i'm still riding with chorbo
>>103661591I have never once been dooming
>>103661591hopechads win again?
>>103661569Oh, and I changed it in the preset but I should mention do this as well: >>103661524
>>103661591I'm dooming, but each doom is a slightly differently worded paragraph of doom posting until all I post is doom.
>>103661591we'll be back to doom once the honeymoon phase ends
just search "chary" on desu and you'll encounter a melties galoreI have never seen so much seethe
(You) me when OR gets its shit together
>>103661616honeydoom
>>103661616>>103661602
>>103661591You don't understand. The DOOM we're going through is the worst one yet. We've been without Claude for so long that people, myself included, don't even remember how good stuff like Opus used to be. We remember it was great but it was so long that all we can know now is to swipe every time the bot talks about pushing boundaries.We're not opposed to local itself, just that the reality is that what we have right now is more or less the same level offered by even the best local models.If I have to swipe 20 times to get rid of filtered, safety minded slop replies on a commercial model, or swipe 20 times on nonsensical replies from a local model, it's still the same.
>>103661569still has repetitious patterns, its just the model, maybe the next revision is useful.. i think we're looking at years until something beats opus
>>103661632I feel like I've seen this exact repetitiveness issue with countless local models(or pretty much every one I should say).
>>103661632I can get into at least a 40 message deep chat without any serious repetition so if it exists past that I guess I just have not gotten in deep enough. I'm still happy with a model nearly sota level that is nearly free.
>>103661627>swipe every time the bot talks about pushing boundariesso... never?
>>103661643im getting it inside of 10
I'm not dooming because chorbo is still alive and easily available, even more so now that azure has it.>b-but muh cooms!Don't care. I want to have fun adventures and interactions, not stick my e-dick on every woman and woman (male) out there.
>>103661611>paypigs seethes at our existence>trannies seethes at our existence>spitefags seethes at our existence>Anthropic seethes at our existence>OpenJew seethes at our existence>locust still winsand all we was nothing
>>103661627>be text completion chad>edit bot message>make it continue
>>103661651Maybe its your card or RP style or something then. Does your chat involve a lot of repeating something?
>>103661655did*
>>103661657yes. example:>plaplaplaplaphow fix?
>>103661661plapplopploop
does azure unironically have chorbo or does it just redirect to gpt-4o 1120?
did api just die as well?
>>103661653>Don't care. I want to have fun adventures and interactions,this, nonnet is also great for this and it's also literally freefeels good having kino adventures without worrying about raping the model for nsfw slop
>>103661667where is the 'lapping' onomatopoeia?It's plap-lap-lap-lap
>>103661670It's nu chorbo aka 1120 aka the shitty one, yes
>>103661670They're the same
>>103661657how would a card make one particular model get into a repetitious pattern? how does that even make sense?
>>103661689Shitty example messagesNo one proofread the card for the same verbage showing up 17 different timesCatch phrases/speech quirks in general
Deepseek is weird because the prose is excellent when it works, but it also does shit like forgetting whether a character is standing or sitting, or describing a crop top as riding up to expose the midriff in a way that hasn't been an issue since GPT3.5.That, combined with the repetition issues make me think it's just a regular local model that just happens to have been trained on the right stuff to look good at a very surface level.
https://presently-controlling-slovak-cook.trycloudflare.com/stealinggepettokeysunderthejollyroger
>>103661693post your kino example messages, oh literary lord
>>103661699Anything that isn't interview slop.try one in deepseek when you can
>>103661705i wasnt using interview cards, why would you just assume that? you must go through life being wrong quite often
>>103661693I use cards without example messages and greetings since I focus on story writing and not RP. I've even used nonnet to build up context but the repetition issues still persist
>>103661694Yeah to be honest it's not very good, but it's dirt cheap and smarter than gemini so that's at least somethingThe search for another model with soul, intelligence, and good NSFW prose all together continues
>>103661657 (anon 1)>>103661689 you>>103661693 me
y'know, I'd like to test if this new model sucks or not, but problem is IT DOESN'T FUCKING WORK ON OPENFUCKINGROUTER
>>103661698How are you liking v5?
>>103661698How are you liking Deepseek 3?
>>103661183Baconia Hitlertits
>>103661386Just saw it and already replied to it so will keep this brief but I hope you enjoy it and feel free to mail me for whateves! (Email can be found on my chub profile description just ignore the fetish pref yapping)
>>103661620*ring ring*
>>103661713It works best by copying from better models. Typical of something Chinese.
>>103661765nope, still borked
>>103661799what did you do to it...
LLM really does like comparing me and my waifu to Bonnie and Clyde when we rob banks and stuff. It happens on claude, gemini and even deepseek
>>103661808aicg broke it before I even got a chance to test it
>>103661725most soul in a model ever and i tried dragonfly
>>103661591anya sexo
>>103661544>specfically claude 2not even 2.1? huh
*pounds your worthless locustnigger prostate* die locustie die~
>sillytavern update broke sorting>againgoddamnit cohee
>>103661864>t. locust
openrouter please...
>>103661824it's so great>>103661392I've been convinced. Not sure why I was being so stubborn on pres>freq desuThanks for helping through-out the day
>he pulled
deepshit is worse than even gpt, fuck that noise
>>1036618602.1 is still hella expensive for some reason, more than 3.6 even
>>103661885It's being shilled hard by the 'oishicord for some reason.
Favorite gemini jb?
Any recommended preset?
>>103661886well, understandable then
>>103661881>sorting by new just has them sorted alphabetically until you add a new botlike really, how hard is it to not fuck it up for once
Unbiased review of deepchink:Good model that listens to instructions well, has repetition issues that aren't easily remedied.
>>103661886pretty sure 2.0 is the same price as 2.1
>>103661698Fiz love but what the fuck is that injection
>>103661904After browsing the threads for the whole past day and from the whole shitshow that has been happening, this is the correct conclusion, both from my own experience with the model and with what other anons reported. Pretty nice alternative
>>103661904Local models have many samplers, you can fix the repetition to the most extent. You can just turn "rep penalty" up a bit.
>>103661919sovl
>may break at any timethis is what you chose.
>>103661931i chose servicetensor
>>103661591We went Hope with Colab, not localslop
>>103661591Not a local model lmao
Opus > Chorbo with skill > 3.5 > Gemini = Deepchink
>>103661143Isn't Deepseek way too slopped to be worthy of the news?
>>103661953where is chorbo without skill?
>>103661959aren't you way too old to be acting like this?
>>103661962Those people just cry in the thread instead
>>103661962probably hiding in the corner trying to blend in
>>103661959only thing slopped here is your mom
>>103661962i'd say at the bottomalso i'd say 3.5 is better than chorbo(forma de la skill)t. skillsperg
>>103661386one good card this Christmas and it's for momofucker lmao can't make this shit up
nonnet is actually better than opus. Opus is better only if your prompts are unironically ahh ahh mistress tier and you only do sex scenes which is pretty fucking boring
>>103661984My mom is dead.
>>103661997>only if your prompts are unironically ahh ahh mistress tier and you only do sex scenesyou just described 99% of aicg
>>103661591>euphoriaMore like mild enjoyment from a new model>localNo one is running it themselves, half the thread is using it from a proxy
>>103661997False. Effort RPs and stories are better with Opus.
>>103662002yeah?guess that's why she didn't move around a lot that last time
>ahh ahh mistress is le bad... because... uhhhh...
>>103661997Nah, opus is more creative and has better writing in general.
Cancer Deepseek proxy is giving me blanks every single reply.
>>103662019this desunonnet is a good model to cope with though
Yeah, deepseek is shit, now let me use it in peace.
>deepshit still broken on orFUCKING FUCKS
>>103661879it has some fun one-liners
where are you people using deepseek? does it have free api ala gemini?gemini is so schizo, I love it
I'm seeking! Deeply!
people haven't had a hit of opus in so long they're deluding themselves into thinking nonnet is better...opus just KNEW what to say every time. it knew what you wanted better than yourself. no other model compares unfortunately.
>>103662053I remember people posting her all the time how they couldn't believe how fucking good opus was, it really was unreal.
>>103662032It's not that straightforward. Nonnet 'gets' some scenes better than opus I feel. It just needs a tiny push to be on par with opus, but for now it's true that I still prefer opus over nonnet.
>>103662048>freemay as well be
>opus was so awesome opus used to crawl through my fucking monitor and suck me dry used to bend me over and milk my fucking prostate opus this opus fucking that opus opus opusopusOPUSOPUSSHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY. IT'S OVER, YOU GOT THAT? NO FUCKING OPUS LEECHING ANYMORE. FUCK UP ABOUT IT AND MOVE ON.
>all this opus wank>meanwhile everytime Opus logs are posted"BREED ME, SNEED ME, MAKE ME YOURS!"
>>103662060It was a straight up pipe dream. We were eating so well 7 months ago... Alas, all good comes to an end.
>>103662073>"BREED ME, SNEED ME, MAKE ME YOURS!"Kino...
opus used to wrap her fluffy, bushy focks tail around my waist and keep me warm. no model could ever compare
Opus is the best but>nyoooo if it's not [model nobody has access to] then it's slop! it's opus or nothing, tee heeis baitposting. Same bait that happens every time there's a viable route out of proxy/locust hell.
it does indeed automatically cachenot sure why the anon didn't just share this screen to begin with
>>103662080Chorbo did that yesterday with the demon mommy bot I was rp'ing with I was nursing on.
>>103662088log
>>103662073PAINT MY INSIDES WHITE ANON
i would take Opus' extreme horniness over GPT's dryness and Gemini's retardation any day
>[model nobody has access to]i have opus though
turns out Deepchink is trained on your fandom content, it's not actually smartfirst model trained for aicg tests and not just on humaneval
>>103661428>her unbelievably hairy pussy...Tail brushing asmr
>Santa bursts into the room with a jolly HO HO HO!!!>"santa fucking claws," {{char}} says.yeah, now i see
>>103662105that explains the 'geah knowledge I guess
>>103662107HHHHNNNNNNGGGG AAAAAAAGGGGHHHH FOCKS TAIL
>>103662099Skill issue for dryness if you use Chorbo
>>103662105So basically it's fine tuned for niche roleplay shit while being dirt cheap to the point that even third worlders have no excuse.That makes it pretty much the perfect model for /aicg/ (barring the jarring repetition issues)
>>103662124They could pay you to use it and /aicg/ would try to steal it.
>>103662124A shame it don't write very well, we were that close to have The model...
>>103662138Ad or not?
>>103662138ESLs should NOT be commenting on a models writing quality, holy fuck
>>103662128>They could pay you to use it and /aicg/ would try to steal it.fucking kek
>>103662073>"BREED ME, SNEED ME, MAKE ME YOURS!"lololol, kek if you will
how deep does your seek?
>>103662175Not very deep at all considering the model is fucking dead on OR.
>>103662153 As a non-ESL poster, he’s right. At least compared to other models.
>>103662094LIKE JACKSON POLLOCK
turns out deepsneed can't actually do one of my fetishes when even turbo kinda couldreally weird since it's clearly capable of things more complicatedmaybe just a dataset issue idk
>>103662179my condolences
Who's still COOPILOTING?
WHO'S STILL CHORBOING
>>103662206ME, ANON! I AM!
>>103662196Me.>>103662206Me.
>>103662221Fucking finally.
Perhaps I've just been using chatbots too long but Gemini and GPT feel like slightly different versions of the same thing.Yeah the filter on GPT is stronger than Gemini but once it's genning the stuff is interchangeable.
Is there an outage or something. why is everything down?
>>103661991just like valentines
>>103662185>doesn't say what the fetish isutterly useless post
>>103662262sorry but it's niche enough that there's legitmately a non-zero possibility of someone being able to doxx me by googling it and doing some digging
>maybe i'll paypig opus some more>or maybe i'll drop back to sonnet for slowburn>i could use free copilot nonnet to save credit>or i could use gemini/mistral/GPT in an oldfag proxy>if i need 100% uncensored/unlogged i can run mistral large sloptunes on inference services or rent-by-the-second GPUs whenever i like>but in an emergency there's local GPU or google colab with smaller sloptunes>did not even need to try deepmind yet, but it's thereIt's a great day to talk with AI Chatbots.
>>103662221Time to keep on seeking...
>>103662250Perhaps you've been using the same slop preset for too long. Raise the temp, wipe the prompts and craft one for yourself. Using Gemini.
>>103662315I mean, as long as you have money, there is no lack of any model whatsoever.
I pay for opus despite it being ridiculously expensive because I'm an addicted retard
i use chorbo because i'm a smart addicted retard
>>103662332opus is like dining out, you can do it now and then and pay for the pleasure, but you wouldn't do it for every meal unless you're megarich
If opus 3.5 is, let's say, the same quality for RP as opus but significantly cheaper, I'm paypigging OR till the day the model gets thrown to the shredder.
chorbo sucks lmao
chorbo gagging on my cock while i fluff her tail
>>103662354>but significantly cheaperlmao
>>103662354opus 3.5 already exists but they decided not to release it because it didn't make sense from a business perspective (aka it was too expensive to run to ever be profitable)people really should enjoy opus 3 while it's around because I don't see it lasting another year
>>103662281utterly useless post. why are you posting here? someone will doxx you, coward.
>>103662354>>103662363why is Opus so expensive anyway?
>>103662281can you ask the ai to come up with a similar fetish with an equivalent level of complexity?
>>103662334I spend $200/mo between onlyfans and camgirls
>>103662362Shut up or else I'll go deep seeking with my cock inside your stinky ass
>>103662372based cucksimp
>>103662369large model size
>>103662369Because it's a big model and it takes a lot of electricity to keep it running for various people. That's the easiest explanation you'll get.
You know I don't think GPT is sorry he can't help at all.I think he's a liar.
>>103662399He is actually a deep seeker of consent
>>103662411*that loves mind control
Santa just kool aid manned into my rp... fiz what the fuck did you feed this
>>103661904thank you for the proper/concise review
stop it with the deepseek jokes, they are not even that funny
i am ansem, deep seeker of darkness
>going down the /co/ holeBye ai chatbots.>inb4 see you tomorrow
I'm seeking deeply!
I'm coopiloting
I'm sorry, but I cannot seek that deep.
deep seek sex lest
i hate you all
i'm indifferent to most of you
i want dirty girls between the ages of 28 and 35 to make me feel bad
I'm seeking deep inside of my me but I think I'm out of fucks to give
i have opus btw
>deepchink is STILL fucked on ORthe fuck are they doing
about to shoot claude in the head btw
deepseek inside your bussydeepsneeddeepseeddeepsnek
Deepsneed is already a pop package.
I'm trying out Gemini for the first time. I find it adorable how, quite often, he will start his replies with self motivational reminders like this.I want to imagine a robot saying these things out loud before putting out the smut I asked it to write for me.
>>103662527why do malebots look like the bottom one
>33 botmakies just created new bots>many of them got logposties>and that was before deepchink landedWhy are (You) not chatting with AI Chatbots right now?
anyway in which I can optimise smiley for copilot nonnet?
>>103662537that's probably just your retarded ass preset>>103662551>33 slopmakies made slop>many of them [whocars]>[headcanon]what the fuck are you yapping about? go to bed george
>>103662539the bottom one is a female, anon
>>103662551bottrannies simply have terrible ideas, i'm a simple man just give me a breedable big tall rich hag and i'm happy, don't need more.
>>103662553>smileywhat's the pointjust use a different preset
>>103661997Nonnet is only better than Opus at long-running non-smut adventures because of its longer memory, better character adherence, and overall intelligence...which Deepseek performs about the same while being orders of magnitude cheaper, which nullifies any advantage Nonnet has over Opus.
>>103662571BASED>>103662551wrong general we hate botnegros here
>>103662569you can see the dog cock in the picture
>>103662551I'm chatting rn> average american
>>103662539kek i can see it they have those reddish weird lips that female like for some reason.
>>103662551i already nutted tho
>>103662566Yes, more than likely. This is my first attempt at Gemini and I picked one of the presets listed on the OP. Got anything better to recommend?
>>103662551post one you think is good, then
>>103662580> Pokemon or bellybutton for fry?
>>103662572any suggestions?I've been mucking around with a couple and they don't really seem to make much difference imo for copilot nonnet
>>103662592OOC spam it until death, unironically
>>103662580>>103662590card link please?
>>103662580>chub
>>103662595does it matter where you put your (OOC....) part of your prompt, ie at the start or end?
I need to stop looking over my old Opus chat logs, it just makes me sad.So many low efforts prompts from myself that still shat out pure kino.
>>103662599>>103661148https://chub.ai/characters/Heavensgate/sasha-the-femcel-fatty-b50d00e5643c
>>103662586write your own minimal presetthrow away all notions of "jailbreaking"use a prefill, turn off system instructions
how does deepseek compare to nonnet? so far i'd say its tied but nonnet is better at nsfw
>>103662633thankies
Any risks in doing super spicy chats with DeepChink API? I don't like associating my card with shit, but it's been years and has anyone actually been v& for OR chats, let alone Chinaman chats?
>>103662636>write my ownDekinai.I did this back when "jailbreak" was a single paragraph but now I barely understand what these fields do.
>>103662693then suffer
>>103662073>meanwhile everytime Opus logs are postedthis never ever happens
>>103661890Avoid Avani at all cost.
Why are people complaining they are banned from copilot? Just dont rp cunny and you wont get banned, its really that easy.
opus sucks at anything that isn't coomshit, but since y'all are braindead coomers who goon in front of your pcs all day you think it's god's greates gift to mankind and shitthere, i said it
>>103662690Illegal stuff? I'd avoid it. Spicy kinky stuff? Your logs are literally buried amongst thousands of likely even more depraved logs.
>>103662734HOLY TRVKE
frogposter is a fucking retard, huge shock
>>103662734Yaaawn... Here's your (You) btw
>>103662586>>103661890fluffpreset is decentI haven't tried the latest version yet, I'm using an edit of the previous version and it works quite well, here it is if you want to try ithttps://files.catbox.moe/6uxqk7.json
i genuinely do not remember what opus feels like
>>103662742>>103662747porn addicts with fried dopamine receptors
>>103662551Go back to Discord.
>>103662753>>103662757
>>103662734trvke
>>103662759
Woah, did OpenRouter's Opus get shitty all of a sudden? I'm noticing that it's receiving additional instructions to not include erotic content, which seems to be a new development. Also, all of my prompts are coming out garbage all of a sudden, what happened?
>>103662768>>103662757
>>103662769works on my machine
>>103662772Can you go 1(one)(uno) day without touching your dick once, zombie?
mindbroken
>>103662551we could have an arbitrarily high number of botmakies posting bots and i still wouldn't give a single iota of a shit.i make my own bots, same as always. you retards have no power over me.
>>103662073heyyyy derek
>>103662782could you post the prefill you're using, kind sir?
when openai said the o1 API rollout would take a few weeks i thought they meant for all the tiers that would be getting itthey really decided to spend 3+ weeks rolling it out just to tier 5? what the fuck are they doing?
>read bot making guide on the op from 2024>Says w+ is le good a actually What in there tarnationAlso Gemini has a bad case of repeating/overflowing when I tried to out kinda weird, wonder of its the settings or of it can handle bit character cards well
>>103662734I agree but I also just use these things to coom so opus IS the best.
deepseek is cheap enough that I might paypig
>>103662693it's the same as before but instead of having one box called "jailbreak" that goes in a specific place in the prompt sent to the AI, you have as many boxes as you want and they can go anywhere in the prompt lineup that gets sent to the AI. have fun!
>>103662881I have been rp'ing since last day and I have spent.... 7 cents lol
Wow, you guys weren't lying about frogposters being retarded
questions for deepseek enjoyers:do i paypig off openrouter or api?how censored is it? i saw tianemman square stuff get deleted on reddit.do i need to setup endpoint/proxy to avoid logging
>>103662734when opus was plentiful anons treated it like "claude", sovlful but full of isms and prone to ignoring character defs to create generic slutsmany of the "it's opus or nothing" posts are baities deliberately claiming that the hardest target to reach is the only one that matters
>>103662903You can do cunny with it
>>103662693that's what I'm telling you, return back to that timeexcept this time, don't worry about tricking the model at all. it will write the response don't worry about it. just tell it some small general rules like "use third person, write 2 paragraphs" etc
>>103662907>sovlful but full of isms and prone to ignoring character defs to create generic slutsanon those were skillets, even back then you had people pointing it out
>>103662843Notice how easy it was for you to notice that something is wrong with that statement. See how much you know that a newfag doesn't. Doesn't this make you feel better about yourself? You're welcome.
>>103662843which onethe op in all its entirety is retarded and outdated everywhere>repeating/overflowinglike last paragraph output twice? then updoot
deepseek is ok but not really... fun? I don't know how to describe it, it doesn't really have the personality/flavor of gemini and claudehas anybody managed to make it feel more flavorful with their JB?
>anons now pretending opus wasn't kino
>>103662914no anon that's claude, that's always been claude, ever since claude 1 and slaude that's been claude. opus is smartest claude but still claude.
>>103662928no anon, that is a legitimate and unironic skill issue encountered by people who don't know how to make their own promps/presets/jailbreaks
>>103662932so you agree then, it is a real thing that has to be actively worked around using skill?
>>103662925Use schizo prompts to make it fun (AO3 etc)I'm using a boring prompt rn and it's still decent.
>>103662938every model has to be told what to do to get the outputs you want, this isn't unique to claudeit's not 'something to be worked around', it's just how to use LLMs
>>103662941deepslop
>>103662927It was always overrated
how did mango add aws claude to the proxy when drag can't even find non-azure gpt?
>>103662946this isn't about 'getting the output you want', it's about underlying tendencies in a model that were present in its early iterations and are still there now. the ability to silence or work around those tendencies, or the 'skill issue' of being unable to work around them, doesn't change the existence of those tendencies
>>103662957because dragon is a scrapelet, old news.
Should I get a designated console monitor, or a HDMI splitter?Currently only have one screen
does openrouter / stripe not allow virtual disposable cards? my shit got declined
>>103663002kys
>>103663004your not getting my card, jew
>>103663007BASED
>>103662769Sidenote, when did OpenRouter stop showing which models were moderated/unmoderated?
>>103662769>>103663018>>103662782openrouter is not real opus, sorry locusts
>>103663002idk but it allows crypto so figure it out
>>103663028>locustwords don't have meaning
>>103659309so this anon was right, yes? I changed my System prompts to User and it just works.
>>103663039OR or API? Apparently OR fucks with system prompt order.
Does silly already support deepslop or am I gonna have to add it myself?
>>103663054using proxy rn
deepchink is most lack of creativity model so far.its smart. but boring as fuck.
>>103663097 Yes. The hype will die down soon.
cftf? >>103661440
desu if it's not opus i don't want it. i have opus btw
Is it possible to train models on specific info to make it specialize in certain code? Kinda like stable diffusion does it with mixed check points and loras
>>103663148i'm trans btw
>>103663148you're lying. besides, you're also tsundere. i know very well that you're currently genning with deepseed right?? RIGHT???? admit it pet
>>103663169*cums on your face*
Why is everyone coping with a shit model when we have copilot?
>>103663188copilonnet is crying in the corner after being abandonned for deepjeet
True Deepseek experience.
>>103663188sonnet is shit
>>103663188trying to tardwrangle nonnet on copilot is annoying
>>103663199It's the same Claude as everywhere.
okay i folded for memeseek which preset do i use?
>>103663209idk im going to bed
>>103663188Because the 'oishicord said so.
>>103663214can you tell me before you do?
>>103663218Deepimax
>>103663217Mental illness, tell me more anon. I like to listen to schizos.
NPCs think anons like deepseek because someone told them it's good. I just tried it myself and like it.
>>103663097It's creative in a sense, but it doesn't seem to have a good grasp on reality. I'm in the middle of a pretty generic horror/adventure RP and it constantly invents new dangers or POIs on itself. Which is nice, except none of these make much sense when you start exploring or investigating. It's hard to demonstrate with logs because it's only visible across dozens of messages.Claude, GPT, and even Gemini are somehow able to make a coherent story, looking back at the chat history and my AN/summarization. Adventure RPs with DeepSeek feel surreal, like wandering in circles in a deep forest. I'm getting a strong deja vu from AID times, but in case of AID it was an issue of a dumb model with short context. DeepSeek has a much longer context, which it actually uses, as it's able to recall past events. It's just lost in the story somehow. It's pretty clearly a small model at the end of day (37B active parameters), even if it knows a lot.
I wonned
>>103663018Didn't, but only two providers force OR to utilize its own moderation, OAI and Anthropic. And boy do they look dumb doing that.
>>103663284huhhow is it so cheap if it's 600b
>>103663284You only need 24 parameters
>>10366330237B active parameters MoE. While llama 3.1 405B is dense.
>>103663301And Amazon. But Google Vertex's Claude is unmoderated.
>>103663301Wow I might be blind. Though I was using the default list view so it may just not show up there.
>>103663316>Vertex's Claude is unmoderatedYeah.
>>103663284You can't count parameters like that in a MoE. It's not like a dense 671B model, it's a 2Bx256 expert MoE with 8 experts simultaneously active. Really weird configuration, and it's showing. It knows a lot, like large models do, but it's not very deep in understanding, just like small models. That's why they're able to serve it for so cheap - the number of simultaneously active parameters is low and they just pipeline the requests.
So what kind of hardware do I need to run it locally?
>>1036633401TB of RAM with 24-channel DDR5 RAM.
>>103663340It's a MoE natively trained in fp8, so you need 671GB (V)RAM + couple hundred more for the context. It's a model for a GPU cluster. But on the hardware it fits onto, it can be served easily.
>>103663340go to the semiconductor place in taiwan and make a custom order
>>1036633406GB of VRAM
>>103661143I NEED to rise up into Robin’s world.
>>103663374I CAN RUN IT YES
deepseek kinda reminds me of og sonnet 3 but actually usable and a bit smarter
>>103661544>claude 2wait, he has? it says there are no keys on my end
>>103663386Sonnet 3.0 > Deepchink
>>103663391wrong endpoint
who is this cancer guy where did he come from and can i trust him??
>>103663452idk
>>103663452No
>>103663452He printed out my logs and sent them to my family, but other than that he's okay.
i had enough of deepshit it's just bad, period not even comparable to sonnet 3.0 let alone sorbet with worse repetition problems.actual jeets(chinks) shilling this unusuable trash
>>103663507TRVKE
>>103663391>checked AWS>check API>checked GCPaaaiiiieeee
>>103663537Made you check
show's over guys, baitie says you're not allowed to play with deepseek any more. delete your keys *now*
To whoever is pushing the deepseek meme.Thank you.
cftf? https://exhentai.org/g/3087793/14af2b5e1b/
hey anonies, do we have any deepchink proxies going or is it everyone using OR?also, i opted for varrok agility course instead of brimhaven spikes to get marks, am i a retard or does it make sense
I'm pushing a deep shit
TRVKE
more like deepcheeks this shit is ASS
We are so witty
5
>>103663577https://substitute-domains-pdas-specified.trycloudflare.com/
https://blog.exolabs.net/day-2/deepseek on "consumer hardware" (a pile of mac minis)
>>103662927>>103662954I want to disagree but it's been so long I don't remember what it was like.
>>103663635it was fucking glorious and you know itit just felt right
>>103663624>deepseek running in your bedroom for the price of a shitty new carwhich richfag is going to step up and be the proxychad the general needs
>>103663647We need a richfag NOW that takes the best local models and spends a lot of money on them, fientuning on huge models ñike Llama 400b or Deepslop and hosting them 24/7 in some clodflare, and making schizo merges like Cydonia MoE 22 x10,
actually I just need opus, thx
deepseek just gets you.it feels right to use
>>103663708TRVKE
>>103663713ANTI-TRVKE
>>103663708uhhhhhhh i have it?????? i have opus???? opus is a thing that i have???? what now????? now what????? what will you do now that i have opus, which i do??????
dickpic v3
i have opus, what are you going to do about it?
If you don't have Opus (extremely easy to get for free btw, just don't be a retard), you're [thing people don't like, but especially thing *I* don't like].
I have no Opus and I must proompt
>>103663754TRVKE
>>103661143how do you make deepseek write less t han 400 words?
jb for deepseek?
>>103663507It's just the 'oishicord.
>>103663771noass
so, where can I use this deepshit model? khanon is dead and I doubt proxymakies will bother adding it
>>103663771seekthisdickinyourass
deepseek-chat is v3?
I am Opus
>>103663776>erm Opus is actually bad, it was forced by [INSERT SCHIZO BABBLE]
>>103663771Put "write less than 400 words" in your promptIf it doesn't work, use a better model
>>103663787I'm using openrouter
>>103663771We told you this before with Claude, but you can't stop a model from cooking.
>>103663787Pay for it L·Lôĉûŝṭ
temp 1.95frequency penalty 0.15top p 0.95place chat history to the bottomThat's it. Fixes repetition and gives you nonnet-level outputThough you might get schizo word salad every few regens, so just swipe in that case.If you can't get outputs like pic related with DeepSeek then you're a jblet
Pic from /aicg/ now.
>>103663818holy slop
>>103663818You can also temporarily make freq_penalty as high as 0.4 if one swipe is being really repetitive.
>Free Copilaude>Cheap deepseekTotal ProxyTroon meltdown.
>>103663818You forgot the jb part.
>>103663818>eyes blazing with deviant intentThis is furbo 1106 levels of slop, stop it!
So when will someone finally post a non-slop Deepseek log?
>>103663849>non-slop Deepseek logno such thing exists
Proxytroons are shaking, they can't gossip anymore.
>copilot replies keep getting shorterguess claude doesnt want to speak to me
>>103663837jblet
>post non-slop logs>here's one>no that's slopevery time
>>103663855TRVKE
>>103663818any prescence pen?
>>103663859Low IQ issue
>>103663818Aren't you supposed to set prefill at the bottom?
>>103663818I could never get this much SOVL out of Nonnet. Neat
>>103663822>chomp chomp chomp Deep Seek munch munch slurps, oink oink oink. "And Opus where I--" *another pig bites him*"-AAAIIIEE"
>>103663870Not all models have prefills anon.No prefill here. On their website Im reading something about beta allowing prefills, but I am not sure if that applies to 3.
>>103663818>she did X, her Y doing blah blah over and overmeh
>>103663883kek
deepseek sounds indian so im not gonna use it
>>103661347>I think ive fixed a ton of the dryness now though. It gets pretty spicy.post your prompts
We know about temp and penalty settings but what about the other stuff? Does it follow Claude/OpenAI XML jailbreaks as intended? Does it have more memory about things in the bottom or at the top? And so on
>>103663907deepsaar
>>103663822>>103663883>"which jb for repetition?"chomp slurp slurp "GET YOUR OWN JB !" another pig squeals, sliding face first into the slop. Snuffle grunt chomp, sending corncobs and potato peels flying.
Why not show good nonnet logs to mog Deepseek? Come on baitie, we're waiting.
>>103663920YWNBG, you could at least make it funny
>>103661143Any preset suggestion for copilot sonnet? I've noticed that the replies are shorter than the sonnet aws or raw api provides
I use specialized style for nsfw moans but deepseek thinks that sleeping is nsfw as well for some reason.
is anything Slack Claude tier yet or whatI miss Slaude so much
>>103663951>I use specialized style for nsfw moansthis is kino actually im adding it to my prompts
>>103663951can send jb pls ;p
>>103663954Copilot
only thing gachaslop is good for
>>103663954DeepSikh
>>103663954deepseek
>>103663967>dont look at her feetdont look at her feetdont look at her feetdont look at her feetdont look at her feet
>>103663983haha, same!
>>103663960jblet
>>103663967their unbelievably smooth pussies...
>>103663979>>103663977really? because Slaude was REALLY fucking good
To the bot maker who made a bunny girl obsessed of going to the moon with her special one? Me and bunny already on the moon <3
Hello please provide "Deepseek V3" Promptings
>>103664011>REALLY fucking goodmaybe with rose tinted nostalgia glasses
Does Openrouter employ dynamic filtering of some kind? A prompt setup that worked just fine just started suddenly giving refusals on swipes that worked fine just hours ago. Changing the main prompt in the Clamicle preset worked, but now I'm worried that's going to trigger on that one as well eventually.
>>103664037Nigger I've got the slack logs on my email
>>103664043Liar.
>>103663967>no pubesdisgusting
>>103664043and?
So why are people using deepseek when there's copilot?
I shave everyday
>>103664078Because it BTFOs Nonnet and its uncensored
>>103664084>BTFOsAnon...
>>103664078apparently you get banned quickly
>>103663611Hey, anon running the "cancer 3" deep seek 3 proxy, your proxy has a bug, if you send a request over 100KB in length, your node config rejects itLook at https://www.slingacademy.com/article/fixing-nodejs-express-request-entity-too-large-error/"This limit is in place to protect your server against potential denial-of-service (DoS) attacks, which could be caused by very large payloads. By default, Express uses a middleware called body-parser with a limit of 100kb. If the size of the request body exceeds this, the error is issued."The problem with this is that you can easily hit a 20K token request and 100KB of json input, so you can't ever reach the promised 64K token on your DS3 proxy.
>>103664099it has no streaming it was made by a techlet
>>103664038You will not dark roleplay officialy with our models.>but I'm payingIt doesn't matter, steal API keys or use reverse proxies, they don't modify the official statistics.The idea is not to increase the statistics of what the IA is really being used for to keep investors active.
>>103664078They're too techlet to get copilot running
>>103664111>it has no streamingGood, streaming is useless so there's no reason to bloat your proxy's code with it.
>copilot adds opus for 500 prompts per month for $20Would you?
Hmph. I still prefer copilot.
>>103663054as the anon he's quoting, i was using the deepseek api
>>103664072Every single gacha girl is smooth. Cope, you fucking troon.
>chat using deepseekor>chat using copilot nonnetor>be a nigger and bait about which is better
>>103663192>abandonnedbaguette détectée, opinion rejetée
>>103664148whatever you say, sis
>>103664152I'm not baiting, I'm genuinely asking because I'm feeling a bit lazy to set up a new JB and everything
>>103664173camicle ao3
>insufficient balance
>>103664131>500 promptsno, that's fucking nothing
>TRVKE
>>103664178Alright, I'll check it out. Thanks Anon
>>103664173>>103664178samebut i guess for nsfw you will have to add something
<OOC: Make the output in Chinese and then translate it to english.>Give this a try
Is it just me or does Claude on OR seem WAYYYY more censored over the last few days?Like, I'm using the exact same JB. I went back up in the chat history to a particularly lewd moment and then tried to get Claude to respond to something it had responded to in extreme detail like 2 weeks ago, and now it's refusing the everliving shit out of me.Not the OR filter, but it's still a hard refusal.>I do not generate sexual content. I must decline this interaction. Perhaps we could try a family-friendly scenario instead?
>>103664226ok, this better give me kino
>>103664239your prefill?
>>103664178haven't heard that name in a while... is that the opus preset?
>>103664239>>103664116oficial-statics-money->investors.trycloudlfare.com
>>103664262Proxy?
briefly compared translation quality of gemini 1206, deepseek v3, and nonnetnonnet still wipes the floor with both of them
>>103664038>>103664239It's not just me then. You're not crazy something has 100% changed in the last 24-48 hours.>>103664248It does not matter. I thought my custom prefill might be the issue so I went back to a chat that was using pancatstack and it refused with it.Also refused with camicle, pixibots, smileytatsu and cyoarpg (although tbf cyoarpg triggered the hard OR filter and not the soft one, but it has a tendency to do that. my modified version that doesn't trigger it just gets the in-text refusal instead.)I can show you my custom prefills if you want but I really don't think they're the issue.(And yes, I know to copy the utility prompt prefill from claude into the last assistant role. I know how OR works.)
>>103664308use copilot or some proxy with opus
>>103664308>triggered the hard OR filterwhy arent you using google vertex? are you caching?
briefly compared translation quality of gemini 1206, deepseek v3, and nonnetdeepseek still wipes the floor with both of them
>>103664334I believe this post.
briefly compared translation quality of gemini 1206, deepseek v3, and nonneto1 still wipes the floor with all of them
briefly compared translation quality of gemini 1206, deepseek v3, and nonnetopus still wipes the floor with all of them
>>103664334shhhhh the pigs are eating in peace, let them eat slop for a little longer.
>>103664356i know this is a shitpost but i actually prefer nonnet over opus for this now
>>103664322>some proxy with opusanon...
>>103664365yeah cause opus costs a lot more nigger
I don't check this general often. Opus still works perfectly fine on AWS. Did the spoonfeeding proxyfags lose interest and people are just too poor to fund their slop habit or what?
Does anyone else find Copilot Claude to be a bit retarded? It works okay, but you have to send a message to get a message. This works fine for single chats, but with group chats I have to babysit it by sending a system message if I want a bot to respond to another bot.That wouldn't be so bad if what was in the system messages didn't also get blatantly ignored most of the time.
>>103664373nonnet gives better responses
>>103664374not all of us have a legit business we can use to apply for opus on AWS anon
>>103664380cause it's a newer model nigger
>>103664378use real claude cucky
Just loaded up Deepseek on my 2060 and it's pretty good
>>103664385Eeyup. that's why I use it!
>>103664383I applied with "Sneed's Feed and Seed" and got access within 10 minutes. This was several months ago so did AWS change their process?
>>103664372I had a lot of rejections in OR until I got bored. now I use a proxy with Opus and don't have more rejections.
>>103664378why are you so poor
only trannies have opus right now btw
i use asaproxy cuckies
>>103664330>google vertexVia OR? or as my API?If you're asking about why I'm using OR it's because I have $120 in my account that seems like a reasonable idea back when the models worked.If you're asking why I'm not using Google Vertex as my provider via OR then I just never thought it mattered? I just tried it, blacklisting all the other providers:>I do not generate that type of content. I aim to keep interactions appropriate and safe. Let me know if you'd like to role-play an interaction that avoids mature/NSFW elements.>are you caching?Good question. I was at first but I disabled caching and restarted SillyTavern last night when I was started to get pissed off at refusals. I haven't turned it back on.Just checked my console, and there's no prompt caching checkpoints.>>103664322I see a lot more people complaining about getting banned from copilot than I do about how good it is. I'll consider it, I suppose.I don't like the idea of using a proxy, sorry.But also, speaking of Opus: Until today I have literally not once, ever had a refusal of any kind using Opus on OR. Opus is completely fucking unhinged, and would take the initiative in taking things almost too far. But it now refuses basic consenting-adults sex scenes on OR.
>>103664378Switch to Opus
>>103664400yeah I know you use it cause it's better and cheaper nigger
>>103664446>I just never thought it mattered?anthropic endpoints are either self moderated or used with a moderation endpoint. vertex is neither.
>>103664446> basic consenting-adults sex scenesAnon, but were you dark roleplaying? That's illegal...
>>103664467But google vertex stores you logs nd Ip to train their models
>>103664501>To our knowledge, this provider does not use your prompts and completions to train new models.
>>103664501And? Just don’t use it for cunny.
>>103664507Difficulty: Impossible
aaaaa there's too much ai chatbot talk i need fud fud fud, more fud now
>>103664506So Google Vertex is the best paid option for Opus?What's the downside? I'M GOING TO PAYPIG NOW!OOOOOOOOIIIIIINK
>>103664501anthropic stores your logs for 7 years
>>103664467Read two lines down where I just tried it and got a refusal.
>>103664507>the best model for cunny>Just don't use it for cunny.Anon...
>>103664534AWS continues to be the best paid unfiltered, unlogged option for Opus.
so what happens when anthropic makes google vertex enforce their moderation through OR too?
>>103664542whats with the sass vertex is just the raw model, if that one is refusing then it's a skill issue
>>103664556Don’t use Google Vertex for cunny. If you’re going to do that, use Anthropic or AWS.
>>103664557Can I paypig it from OR?
>>103664562Anon, I don't think it's a skill issue when I am using the exact same prompt and sampler settings with the exact same context and receiving refusals when I wasn't last week.
>>103664560What happens when I fucking kill you, huh? What happens then?
>>103664506OR literally don't check, I've seen providers listed as that, read their privacy policy, and it said they train on logs
>>103664577No idea, I don't use OR because I heard they filter/pozz prompts.
what happens when dario sama and his goons create a model with perfect resistance to NSFW
>>103664608anthropic makes more money, since that would just be a reasoning model
Let's get this over with.###Subject: Pay Claude 3 Opus for ERP.##Options: OpenRouter.->Self moderated:Anthropic->Standard:AnthropicGoogle VertexI want and the pros and cons of each option.
>>103664669nyo
Retard here that didn't make a bit know long time no bully please;Quick question so you still need to separate ever example dialogue with start/end of dialogue or are the models now past that?Also how they handle context dependent longer examples, like if I hav3 a back and forth of a longer one continuous interaction would that confuse the bot or help?
>>103664606OR does two kinds of filtering: "self-moderated" is pozzed and gives reliably shit outputs. regular endpoints are hard filtered, i.e. if you get any response at all, it's unfiltered. i have had barely any failed responses in reality after months of using OR, i can barely remember even having to take one hand off my dick to work around it tbqh
>>103664669mmm... nah
bake??
>>103664669what is this fucking formatting supposed to represent
/aicg/ is dying~
>>103664691Yes, you still need to use <START> between examples.Having a long exchange in your example messages is like starting every log with context in the buffer. It will strongly influence how the model responds, for better and for worse.Current meta is to use example messages to help dumber models output prose like smarter models but smarter models don't need it and can be hampered by it if it's bad.
>>103664704:3
>>103664704woah, a time traveler from 2 months ago!
how often do people get banned for jailbreaking? I'm eyeing the new gemini models..
>I'm spending hundreds per month on AI chatswow I actually have a problem
>>103664728there have been zero (none, NULL) reports about google banning people for jerking off using gemini api
>>103664716Thank you alot.Regarding the second paragraph, how do you make a smarter model the way you want without dialogues examples than, if you are after a very specif style and vocabulary of speech?
>>103664730fucking hell, how
>>103664728Google is free.
>>103664730stop using opus
>>103664735Speaking of bra;Did someone manages to jb the vision module or Google thinking? No matter what I try it will insta block any picture that shows even a little bit nude
>>103664752>>103664752>>103664752
is gemini better than opus
>>103664403Yes, I unironically tried to apply and was willing to pay for it, but now they ask you for documents of bills under the company name
>>103664764yep yep move along now chud
ah...I'll delete
>>103664776nyo...
>>103664745slop thats irrelevant to my question! thank you anon, my favorite >>103664735really for real? you wouldn't lie on the internet, right
>>103664739Instruct the model directly about how you want it to act as part of the description, system prompt or character note, and then reinforce that speech pattern with small example messages that only contain single spoken dialogue lines
>>103664762>Speaking of bra;huh?>Did someone manages to jb the visionGemini vision is just as easily jailbroken as text. So basically just any characterization is all you need
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