>News & Rumors
Microsoft Windows 11 24H2 update may cause SSD failures; DRAMless SSDs are more vulnerable.
If you have a potentially vulnerable SSD, revert Windows update, disable automatic Windows update, & use Registry Editor to set 64 MB HMB allocation policy (or disable HMB).
https://www.neowin.net/news/report-microsofts-latest-windows-11-24h2-update-breaks-ssdshdds-may-corrupt-your-data/

RTX 50 Super: might launch in Q4 '25, 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.

>Omissions
RTX 5070: buy if it's reasonably priced & if you plan to work around potential VRAM bottlenecks.
RX 9070 non-XT: worth considering if it's significantly cheaper than the 9070 XT.

Intel 13 & 14th gen i7/9 -K CPUs: BIOS update required due to reliability issues. Recommended to set a CPU VR voltage limit (1.4 or 1.45V).

>Product Notice
Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

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Official /pcbg/ GPU tier list :

>fpbp
Ty, I know.

Does anyone have suggestions for a keyboard that has onboard memory for profiles so I can finally dump this Razer shit. I don't care if it has RGB but I don't want to be forced to constantly run software.

got my 4K KTC monitor. first impression is man this shit hurts my eyes coming from a VA curved ultrawide.

>>106417959
are assrock am5 boards ever going to be good again or are they just gonna forgo them and come back to am6 whenever that happens?
its getting ridiculous at this point

might as well ask here
>do a clean install for win10 on this old laptop
or
>try linux with it
heard linux kinda sucks with a HDD, but I need to update to something, since even TOR needs win 10 at least

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>>106417992
9070xt is a S class card near MSRP. Still A class otherwise. I see plenty from $700-$750 on newegg. On the other hand, I see plenty of 5070tis from $800-$900 on newegg, which puts it in A tier for me only

>>106418063
ASRock released a new BIOS update (3.40) for some AM5 800 chipset boards; maybe that will finally reduce the CPU degradation risk.

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>>106418072
>near MSRP
Launch price =/= MSRP. Not a single AMD employee ever said $600 is the MSRP of the 9070 XT, probably because they were briefed not to say that.

>>106418044
Yeah I think I need to return this 27" one and get a 32". A lot of people say 32" is the sweet spot for 4k

>>106418043
Ducky one 3 is fully hardware controlled

>>106418072
5070tis are widely available at $750, while 9070XTs are $100 over MSRP

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>>106418138
The $750 models are sold out in the US unless you have a Prime membership for the Gigabyte Windforce.
Can't blame retailers for those cards running OOS though.
If I didn't have a Prime account, I'd probably end up paying $840 for the Gaming Trio or get a $720 9070 XT Hellhound.
You're making concessions with either of those options (coping 9070 XT was meant to be sold @ $700 or coping 5070 Ti is justified to have a $800 base price + $40 Gaming Trio premium).

>>106418128
Thanks I'll look into it.

>>106418177
Just make a prime account? They still do the one month free thing pretty commonly right?

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>super in 4 months
how screwed is amd? nvidia can do this because its a simple replacement of 2gb gddr7 modules to a 3gb version (they are currently already using it in rtx 6000 blackwell) but amd can't do the same because there is no 3gb gddr6

>>106418263
>how screwed is amd?
Not screwed, they just don't really seem to care about the desktop market too much.

>>106418263
16gb is fine for their cards. all they can do is lower the price. but the 9070 is too expensive anyway

>>106418263
AMD will suddenly be able to fulfil the 9070XT below msrp

>>106418263
They just need to sell 9070xts at 550 to 600 and they'll be fine
It doesn't cost more to make than the 7800xt so they've been massively profiting off $700+ 9070xts this entire time

>>106418263
Its ok reviewers will suddenly start saying vram don't matter anymore

>>106418263
should I actually wait for those cards coming in december? I live in Mexico and currently the fucking 5070 ti is 1000 usd, the 5080 1400 usd and the 5090 is retardedly priced at 3000+ usd
I legit dont trust the retailers to sell them at least at the same current prices. I was planning on buying a 5070ti on a sale around november that got it close to msrp at least. GPU are literally the only thing with a retarded price increase here, every single other component is close, on par or sometimes cheaper than msrp

>>106418407
If you're not planning to do AI shit then 16gb VRAM is plenty. Get a 5070 Ti and at worst in some games you won't be able to play maxed out in 4K without framerates going below 60. If you stick with 1440p it's gonna be perfect for almost anything. For 1080p go for a cheaper card.

>>106418407
AIBs will price gouge the Super cards, especially the 5070 Ti Super (no FE), for as long as they can.

Battlefield 6 is all I care about and I want to play that in 4K Ultrawide with as many FPS as possible for at least 12 hours a day what do I need

>>106418263
5090, 9800X3D

>>106418263
AMD said 16GB was enough so don't worry when the SUPER cards come out everyone on here and reddit will be saying 16GB is enough/you don't need more/18GB 5070 is overpriced/you don't need more and we'll have a lot of AMDUnboxed videos showcasing that you don't need more than 16GB and the SUPER cards are all a waste because you don't need more for 1080p/1440p.

There will be precisely 0 marketing for the cards on youtube, every youtuber will say there is a 1-2% performance difference and the extra VRAM is a waste so rest easy in your purchase now there will still be lots of validation for it.

>>106418616
Bless yourself with a 9950x3d and a 5090, 5070ti if you're a regular person.

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whats the best model of OLED i can get for under 600$ and how much should i worry about brun-in? On black friday plan on getting an OLED and a 9070xt GPU and then not upgrading for pretty much ever since i already have a 9800x3d

>>106418616
>>106418643
>12 hours a day
probably not the 5090 then since you don't know when the connector will melt under those conditions. it would maybe be okay if you have an astral but that's an extra $1300+ on top of 5090 msrp for a $5 current monitoring circuit

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>>106418263
wait AMD cards are still using DD6?

>>106418683
not sure if retarded or yuropoorean.

just make sure it's fully seated. if you're still worried get that thermal grizzly thing

>>106418702
that grizzly thing increases risk of melting though
and no, plugging it in normally is not enough. you literally need to ensure the cable has slack on the gpu and psu side so that it doesn't get pinched and have unbalanced resistance
>t. 5090 astral autist

>>106418700
Their on-die L3 Infinity Cache makes up for the slower memory bandwidth.

>>106418714
>has to use more power and more VRAM for the same performance
not really

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>>106418700
yeah but its fine cuz they finally got their shit together this generation

>>106418727
>runs out of VRAM in games where the 5070ti doesn't

>>106418063
why are they bad? I have one

>>106418732
okay but enough about your headcannon

>>106418737
it happens in Spiderman 2 at 4k, ourguy Daniel Owen revealed it

sapphire still good for their gpus or nah?

>>106418719
>>106418732
I don't think this happens in games & settings that run @ 60 FPS or higher.
And everyone knows AMD would get a worse GDDR7 supply deal than NVIDIA, then gamers complain about the added cost.

>>106418747
they are good but xfx is better

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>>106418732
basedbasedbasedbased

>>106418700
low end RDNA5 is going to be using laptop DDR5.
high end is going to be using GDDR7, who knows if midrange will be using GDDR6 or GDDR7.

>90XT series 192 CUs, GDDR7
>80XT/70XT series 80 CUs, either GDDR7 or GDDR6
>70/60XT series 48 CUs, LPDDR5
>60 series or maybe laptop only, 24CUs, LPDDR5

>>106418700
amd decided to design and sell 8gb gddr6 9060 xt for 350€ while nvidia sells 8gb GDDR7 5060 for 299€
so thats an interesting decision

>>106418828
meanwhile neither card should be above $250

>>106418839
they're perfectly fine for the silicon and perf per dollar
I just dont understand why are they so weird with vram

as a total newfag on linux, which one should I install?

>>106418446
alright, that works for me, thanks anon

>>106418846
>they're perfectly fine for the silicon and perf per dollar
They're still weaker than a 3070 Ti; that's pretty mediocre progress.

>I just dont understand why are they so weird with vram
Because it's all about selling the smallest possible GPU die (the costliest component), the chip needs more 32-bit memory bus for every 2GB (4GB if double-sided) increase in GDDR6 memory.

>>106418894
the dies are large anyway and intel managed to make 12gb 300$ gpu
since they dont come out and say how much it costs to make specific bus chip that supports X vram vs different types its kinda pointless to talk about

>>106418870
Mint/Debian/Fedora

Any good 27 inch (or smaller) 8K monitors yet?

>>106418910
>the dies are large anyway
Every chip except for the -90 tier is generally getting smaller.
The GTX 1060's die size was 200 mm2 with a 192-bit memory bus (5060: 181 mm2, 128-bit mem. bus).

>and intel managed to make 12gb 300$ gpu
And they are barely generating any profit out of it. Tom Petersen said they're practically giving away those chips.
They need to make enough money to fund the development of the next GPUs.

>>106419049
last I heard nvidia makes like 50% margins on their gpus

If I'm handling core assignments manually with process lasso, should I use a high performance power plan instead of balanced for a 9950x3d?

>>106418177
Sauce on the picture, anon?

>>106418932
>Fedora
guess this will be it then

>>106419128
It's from the most recent 5070 Ti & 9070 XT TechPowerUp reviews.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pny-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-epic-x-rgb-plus-oc/39.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-radeon-rx-9070-xt-tuf-oc/

>>106419146
Based, just what I needed

>>106418263
total amDeath

>>106411620
just reseated the CPU and found 2 different points where the pins on the motherboard are straight up gone so i'm guessing the previous owner forced a cooler glued to the CPU off and pulled the cpu/pins along with it

what are the odds MSI will fix/replace the board for sub-$100? or should i just buy a new one now

>>106419166
>what are the odds MSI will fix/replace the board for sub-$100?
Did you buy a refurbished board from MSI? Then they will help you out.
If not, you need to start a claim against the used board seller. MSI won't help you.

>>106419186
unfortunately i bought it on ebay like a year ago then left it sitting in its box on a shelf until now. first time i've been fucked by an ebay purchase but it's entirely my own fault for not even looking at it
i was hoping they might still repair outside of warranty for a fee but oh well. i guess i've got no choice but to upgrade to a b850

How do I update my sn850x firmware?

1 ultra wide or 2 monitors for multiple excel workbooks, windows, and tabs?

I replaced my three top RGB fans and now they are a slightly different color than my side 3 fans when they cycle colors. Life is suffering.

>>106419244
are they making 4k class ppi UW's or do they still do the 1440p vertical res shit?

>>106419256
the only winning move is not to play

>>106419244
gonna be highly subjective

>>106418870
LMDE

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>>106419256
>>106419267
>the only winning move is not to play
before

>>106419256
>cycle colors
thats gay shit
just set it to a static color and it will save you cpu cycles too on most rgayb software

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>>106419293
After

>>106419302
It slowly phases through the colors. It is peak comfy.

>>106419309
why dont people like this just buy a lava lamp

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>he boughted a 5800X3D

>>106419244
If you like
>flexibility, 2 monitors is the best, you can position them however you like
>power bricks
>if one monitor dies for some reason, you have one more
>cheaper? more variety in stock
>PPI is denser in smaller monitors
get 2 monitors

if you like
>no bezels
>1 power brick
>not turning your head a lot
>actually utilizing the screen space and not forgetting your 2nd monitor because you only bought it to display media while focusing on another media with your main monitor???
>cinematic viewing arguably better
>some games look amazing
>more or less better for work, case by case
ultrawide

just be a chad and get 2 ultrawides and stack them or 1 giant monitor

>>106419315
It is basically the same thing. After spending $3000 on a build you can make what you like.

>>106419322
Mine is a 7800x3D / RTX 5070 ti / 48gb ram system.

>>106419327
the problem is that most hw manufacturers instead of making it a sane design using software to talk to ICs that control the colors, instead choose to implement it with software that consume an entire core spinlocking just to cycle rgb effects

>>106419347
My AIO LCD seems to use more clocks than my MSI color control. Don't care though given every game is GPU bound.

>>106419226
Install SanDisk Dashboard

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>>106419418
>insufficient disk space

Is there any issue with using non-base 2 RAM? Assuming dual channel, e.g. 2x48GB?

>>106419446
no

launched metal gear solid delta today to 12 fps.
current stuff:
msi b550m pro vdh
ryzen 3600
2060 super

according to the reqs on the steam page my cpu should be fine, but i might as well upgrade my gpu too. if my plan is to get an arc b580, what cpu should i pair it with? i do have access to a micro center if it matters

https://old.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1n1jroi/psa_secure_boot_2026_june_cert_expiry_can_block/

IT'S OVER

>>106419460
the B580 is almost a sidegrade, get a 9060XT 16gb or a 5060ti 16gb.
how much system ram do you have?

>>106419472
>linking to reddit
>no screenshot
I sleep

What's a good deal for 16TB HDDs? I want to get two for long term RAID-1 storage.

>>106419446
I have 2x16 and 2x8 without issue

>>106418263
I’m a VRAM supremacist but I don’t sneed with leaks, whichever team it is.

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>>106417959
>current build
>RTX 3060 Ti (trio MSI, 8GB Vram)
>Ryzen 5 5600x
>RAM : 32 GB (8x4)
>PSU : 650W
So far everything is fine, just wondering if it's a good deal.
Also if my current case is big enough for my current GPU, I don't have to worry about 5060 Ti size right?

>>106419533
Now is a bad time to buy a Nvidia card cause the 5000 series super cards are coming.

>>106419533
no, that's expensive.
it should be no more than 500€

I bought a 5070 in April I hope that wasn't a mistake. It was hella an insane upgrade over my 6600 XT though so I'm happy with it.

>>106419561
Fine at 1440p. I upgraded from a 4070 super to a 5070 ti and the difference was night and day for 4K and PCVR.

>>106419548
>>106419552
Thanks, I'll just wait then.

I think I may have to get an OLED now that I've experienced 4K on a 27" miniLED.

>>106419636
I have a 55" LG C4. They are really nice. Made it my primary monitor.

I installed the Win11 update without issue.
Gigabyte 1TB AORUS Gen4
Sabrent Rocket 4 512GB
MSI X570 Taichi

>>106419636
Why? I wanted to get the KTC m27p6 as well (27"4k)

You go to a friend's house. He shows you his build. RTX 5080, Core Ultra 9 285K, 4x32GB RAM, Windows 11. What are your feelings upon seeing it?

Any suggestions for a motherboard for AM5? At first I was thinking about the B850M MSI Gaming Plus Wi-Fi, but after discussing it on other boards, I changed my opinion to the B850-G ROG Strix. My budget is quite limited. As for the CPU, I'm thinking of installing a 7500f, then maybe upgrading to a 7800x3d, in theory, an MSI with 8 phases is completely enough for me. My case is a jonsbo z20, so the asus tuf won't work because their video card slot is shifted by 1 slot.

>>106419660
good for him, but i feel he has too much memory if he’s not doing AI work.

>>106419660
shit-tell

>>106419665
I been using the MSI X670E Gaming Plus WiFi for a year and a half with no issues with my 7800x3D.

>>106419657
The monitor is nice don't get it wrong. I simply prefer a single wide monitor. I am not a monitor expert by any means, but you can probably? get a better monitor in the price range, it's around 500 USD on amazon atm

>>106419571
>5070
>4K
lol
you mean 1620p upscaled at best?

>>106419660
if hes happy im happy

>>106419660
I ask him what cooler he's using, make sure his drivers are updated then suck his dick.

>>106419665
wait, isnt that strix board like $260?
there are much better options that are cheaper than that

>>106419687
read my comment again and TI this time.

>>106419687
? dlss 4k quality is 1440p

>>106418263
>how screwed is AMD?
Well they’re at 5% market share, so does it really even matter what they’re doing?

>>106418643
Get a 9070xt obviously instead of the 5070ti for battlefield 6 since it’s better than even the 5080 in that game.

>>106419850
AMD sold 200k 9070XTs so now they're at 6%

can PRO B650M-P handle 7800x3d?

>>106419862
No AMD still lost shares some how.

>>106419862
Ah good, now I won’t feel quite as stupid for continuing to beat a dead horse.

>>106419862
Thats the first pp of many that they will get from nvidead, just you wait!

>>106419827
>>106419808
damn, mentioning the reality of vaseline upscaling really makes the nvidiots seethe

>10Gbit usb-c SSD enclosure
>reuse my 1TB Samsung 980 as an external SSD in there
>put my Stable Diffusion models/gens and some less demanding games on there
Is this a good idea? Is 10Gbit fast enough bandwidth for that?
The alternative is just letting that drive rot.

>>106419660
Ask him if he doesn't think a Core Ultra 9 and 128GB of RAM isn't overkill.

>>106419912
its alright for the short term but i dont think TRIM works on usb drives so you'd have to manually TRIM the drive yourself after some time to keep its performance up

>>106419687
Nothing wrong with upscaling. The final image output is the only thing that matters and in many cases DLSS is better than native + TAA because of the inherent TAA blur. At the end of the day it also helps weaker GPUs age much better. There are basically no downsides.

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>>106419928
>there are basically no downsides
>Google: DLSS4 ghosting
>begin laughing

>>106419928
Unfortunately there's no upside either. We got a few years where DLSS was free performance, at least when well-implemented, but now devs are just budgeting their optimization time for lower resolutions. Software bloats to fit the hardware.

>>106419947
Cool. Change the preset to one of the many available in the nvidia app till you find something you like or fixes any issues you have. It's as simple as that.

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>>106419962
>DLSS4 is perfect except when you have to tinkertroon with it
>NVIDIA datamining “app”

>>106419960
I don't know which games you're referring to but the games I play all benefit nicely from DLSS. It's free performance and sometimes better image clarity. It's made "4k" viable for me on my 4ktv. Much better than what any console can do and I have both ps5 and xbox.

>>106419918
Surely Samsung Magician can recognise the drive despite the adapter and still do all the "magic" like trimming and such?
Manual trimming seems to be just a powershell command, so that's also fine. And overall this should, in theory, be slightly faster than a SATA SSD right?

FSR 4 just werks.

>>106419975
Buy a console if tweaking settings isn't for you. I'm not sure what you're arguing here.

Why is it that RAM sticks have to be on the even numbered slots to enable XMP? What happens if one has four sticks?

>>106419986
>durrr durrr why u here if u don waste time all day by consol saar
typical defeated response for the nvidiot shill. let me guess, you think 26fps without fake frames and vaseline is acceptable in 2025 on $1000 GPUs?
you’re posting from a 15 year old stinkpad Ramesh, no need to LARP.

What is bro waffling about

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>>106419977
Sure generally games that started development before DLSS matured (sometime between Ampere and Ada) will benefit. Those made more recently are clearly developed with upscaling in mind. Pic rel is the quickest example I could find; hard to say that DLSS is "free" performance when you have to spend $1000 to hit 1440p60.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying DLSS is bad tech, quite the contrary, but there's no free lunch when it comes to gamedev. They /will/ cut corners if they can.

>>106420059
I pirated SH2 and was able to get a solid 60 fps at high settings with ray tracing at dlss performance 4k on a 3080 ti. I thought performance was pretty decent desu considering it's a 5 year old card. I guess upscaling was a crutch for me, but I thought the image quality looked great with the transformer model.

>>106420003
It has to do with the electrical design of the motherboard. Two slots are electrically, though not physically, closer to the CPU (the wires are shorter) which means lower latency so more margin for timing differences.

>What happens if one has four sticks?
Fill all 4 slots and enable XMP. If it works, great, if not you will have to manually tune.

>>106420088
litteraly every benchmark you have ever seen anywhere is fake and gay. you can only trust numbers you have produced yourself, unironically.

>>106420107
>It has to do with the electrical design of the motherboard. Two slots are electrically, though not physically, closer to the CPU (the wires are shorter) which means lower latency so more margin for timing differences.
Oh, never thought of that. I was wondering why my mobo was bitching when I tried to enable it with the sticks on 1 and 3 instead of 2 and 4 were it works fine.

>>106420120
NTA but this is more true than you'd think. I've consistently gotten different results that online benchmarks on my own machine, be they better or worse.
Oftentimes they've been better, leading me to believe the benchmarks are rigged to make old hardware look worse to get people to upgrade...

>>106420120
Yeah I agree. Benchmarks aren't necessarily representative of what you'll experience. Even with the vram discussions going on now, it seems on forums that 8gb is useless and if you have a card like a 4060 you should throw it in the bin, but i know several people who own one because it was included in their cheap prebuilt/laptop and they're having an absolutely fine experience. So to each their own really.

>>106420088
Yeah I'm not saying it doesn't work as described just that the fact that it /does/ work means game devs (or more likely publishers) treat it like rational market actors. Why spend time (money) optimizing the game for a higher resolution than necessary? The shareholders want you to ship this quarter.

>>106420120
His result is in line with TPU's 1080p bench, modulo the DLSS overhead, so it would seem they're pretty accurate.

>>106420151
In the case of SH2 in my opinion the graphics were really nice especially with ray tracing enabled so I think the performance:visual ratio was OK. There are some games which look like shit and run like shit which absolutely need upscaling as a crutch even on modern day high end hardware though so I get what you mean.

>>106420120
they aren't necessarily fake but you have to realize reviewers don't sanity check their results at all
the benchmark spits out an FPS number and they put it in a graph, their job is done

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like this
>why is the 14600K faster than the 9800X3D in BF6? eh, who cares, publish it
no explanation at all
if that's what the numbers say, then that's how it is

>>106420134
Most online benchmarks are done with release drivers and unpatched games which will skew performance down. Plus some manually select the manufacturer's stock settings. Bit more of a grey area that one; eg. Anandtech refusing to use XMP is pretty unrealistic but I think most can agree that disabling sneaky motherboard power juicing is a good thing.

>>106420120
That's what I did when I concluded the 5090 was a shit undervolter compared to the 4090 and some /pcbg/ autist sperged out at me lmao

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635€
They keep getting cheaper

>>106420314
No stable diffusion no buy
>Muh workarounds
Nyo

>>106420336
>I'm too dumb to use rocm

>>106420340
>waste time, not money

>>106420354
>be Apple iphone owner level stupid
>or learn how to actually do something

Remember when GTX/RTX xx70-tier cards were considered high end instead of midrange? Crazy that the 1070 could run everything at 1080p for years, and the 5070 needs DLSS to hit 60 in demanding new titles at 1440p. And the standard today is 1440p144 not 1080p60 or even 1440p60...

>>106420314
cheapest 9070 xt in finland is 699€
I guess they have to do it because 5070 ti are too cheap at around 830€
200€ price difference sounds about right

>>106420376
Nvidia remembers how gtx10 got way too long in the tooth so they're selling all GPUs one tier up from where they rightfully should be now

>>106420376
The same kind of inflation is hitting CPUs too. The only Ryzen 3 chips are APUs now.

>>106420376
>>106420408
that's what happens during a monopoly

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>>106420393
The screenshot is prices from Spain
Those are the 5070TI
So about 150€ from the cheapest models, worth noting i guess that one of the cheaper 9070xt (2nd one) has a decent amount of ratings in pcpartpicker, where all the other cards have like 2 or 3 ratings only. Guess that model was really popular.

Anyhow, i dont really need the upgrade right now but if these end up at 600 i might just pick one

>>106420401
>one tier up from where they rightfully should be now
And even the 5090 can't completely avoid DLSS and Framegen if the user wants to fill out their 180Hz monitor.

>>106420437
Real 90/titans have 95%+ of the die enabled
The 5090 is binned like a 80ti of previous years

>>106419983
I can check tonight, I've got an old Samsung M2 SSD in a USB enclosure and Magician installed on my Windows partition.
I reckon it should work properly but I've neglected trimming that drive ever since I took it out of my tower.

>>106420401
i only upgraded my 1070 this year. it was a good servant. i have it on my shelf as a nice ornament. the evga designs were so good.

>>106420437
depends on the game. i have a 180hz monitor and the used 3080 i got to replace my 1070 powers it just fine in multiplayer games. i don't see the need to have anything above a 75 fps cap for single player games.

>>106418712
Can i get the 5090 Suprim instead? I don’t want the connectors to melt and it has better thermals too.

my nzxt case arrived today and I thought there was some mistake cause there was only 1 front fan when every promotional picture and video shows 3 front fans but turns out thats just how it is, feel omega gaslight rn

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>>106420615
Short of running hardware mods like in picrel, that connector is a black box on every model that's not the astral or matrix since you cannot know what kind of current or voltage it's sending to the GPU
And the combination of 12vhpwr to 2x8-pin cable and how PSU cables get bent in the Lian Li o11d eco RGB I'm using makes it really easy for there to be unbalanced current. Like a slight tug can cause a cable to pull no current while the remaining five will range from 6 to 13A while at 600w, and it takes a lot of micromanaging to get the cable to pull an even 7-9A across all 6 pins.

Future 4k gaymer here, how good is FSR4 compared to DLSS4?

>>106420666
I’ll get the Astral instead then. Thanks.

>>106420684
a bit worse. about the same as dlss 3. the issue won't be with quality but game support. fsr 3 was the only upscaler the consoles supported, but on pc games still supported dlss over fsr.

>>106420740
No problem.
Also the reason why the astral doesn't do well in noise benchmarks is entirely due to the noisy rear fan. However if you get a newer revision of the astral, you should be able to control the rear fan independently of the other 3 fans in msi afterburner and asus gpu tweak iii

>>106420684
its between DLSS 3 and 4 in terms of quality but only supported on RDNA4 onwards.

>>106420684
because amd fsr4 capable gpu marketshare is so tiny game publishers dont have real need to prioritize implementing it in games on pc

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Completed it on Intel Arc.
Pyromancy the best and easiest way to kill every boss.

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Completed on nvidia geforce

>>106417959
>>GPU
>Budget: Arc B580
B570, A580 - ultra budget.

>>106420987
Is this a date simulator?

>>106421014
yes sir, it's an eroge short for erotic game

is this current generation of amd cards just beta testing for udna that is supposed to be coming out in the next few years?

>>106420646
>nzxt
why would you buy a cheap feeling flimsy chassis made out of thin sheet metal panels fastened together?

>>106421045
they're fine if you can get them cheap enough
problem is amd desktop gpu strategy in the 2015-2024 period was bad and now they're permanently behind nvidia in feautures
If they didnt get ml upscaling and frame gen & other stuff done for 9070 xt they might lose the console market

>>106421045
in short, yes

>>106421114
i don't think ml upscaling will be available on the current gen of cards, at best they will get fsr 4.5 next year which will only be slightly better than fsr 4.
fsr 5 will likely be their ml upscaler to truly compete with dlss 4 and will only be available on rnda5/udna.

>>106421134
fsr4 is ml upscaling

is there any reason to get an amd 7600x when the 9600x is only a little more

>>106421294
9600x is better in every way but id pick a 7700/x over it

>>106421307
Id pick 7800x3d over 7700

>>106421314
>4.8ghz
no thanks

>>106421307
but y tho

>>106421360
less context switching from more cores resulting in better 1% lows

>>106421365
does that outweigh everything else about it

>>106421371
yeah zen5 isn't that much faster than zen4 in games and having more cores helps a lot in shader compilation in all games

So why does every browser suck except for Vivaldi? Brave and stock Chrome just rape your GPU power draw. Firefox is cucked by YouTube and any HW acceleration sites.

Is dual CCD bad for Windows?

>>106421418
you cant put taskbar to the side because its too hard for win11 developers
what do you expect from their ability to managa complex cpu configurations by extension?

>>106421157
it's not the transformer model or whatever it's called

>>106421401
>Vivaldi
sounds indian
just stick to firefox

Retard here that just bought GPU for the first time in his life (Sapphire Pulse 9070 XT), is it normal for GPU to use 2 GB of memory in idle + have the voltage fluctuate between ~300 mV and ~700 mV? Dual monitor setup, 1440p, 165 Hz both.

>>106421472
An AMD GPU? Yes that is normal. AMD CPUs also have wild idle power fluctuations.

>>106421471
I'm laptop & phone.
Brave and stock Chrome just rape your GPU power draw. Firefox is cucked by YouTube and any HW acceleration sites.

>>106421471
firefox has 3% browser marketshare for a reason and it reflects in performance.

>>106421462
Who even knows what the difference between a transformer model and cnn model is.
FSR4 however is good quality thanks to machine learning which is what matters, just not AS good as nvidias transformer model.

Pre- 9070 xt generation amd gpus werent recommendable because their upscaler was simply unable to match nvidias quality.
Like you could spend 1k € on amd 7900xt, then if you turn on the upscaler you end up with worse image quality than cheaper nvidia gpu which was just sad.
As games were using dlss as a way to handle anti-aliasing you had to enable it, which in turn meant nvidia had a permanent significant image quality advantage to amd which you couldnt fix with paying more. Nvidia was the only option for like 5 years.

>>106421472
perfectly normal
itd be chugging like 90W doing nothing if it didnt lower its voltage at idle

>>106421504
4k native always looks better than 1440p native or dlss 1440p and the amd card can do native no problem while nvidia is cucked on vram and pixel fillrate u can confirm in gpu-z how their fillrate is like 200 while 7900xtx can get up to 500 and rapes the 5070ti in native

>>106421482
>>106421508
Thank you. It DOES have pretty high power draw in idle at 40 W, but I don't think I can do much about it.

>1440p dlaa vs 4k native taa
thoughts?

>>106421513

If I had to game on 4k I'd buy 5070 ti and upscale from 1080p with the trasnformer model and probably have a bit higher fps than amd gpus running native without anti aliasing or.. taa (lmao)

>>106421529
>>106421508
ASPM in your BIOs. Learn it

I almost fell for it and bought some B850 boards with Wifi 7 modules pre-installed.

Which would have been bad, because I won't switch to Win11.

>>106421529
thats just how discrete gpus are
its worlds better than last gen 7900xtx that idled at 130W with mismatched dual monitors because amd sucked at programming their display profiles then

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>>106421536
If I had to game on 1080p, 1440p, 4k I'd buy 9070 xt instead. the 1% lows are much better than nvidias equivalent also the drivers on windows+linux are superior.

>>106421553
thats 1 pvp game
to make comments about 1% lows youd use a dozen + game averages being used like a normal gamer would, upscaling from lower res with dlss

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>>106421550
This is 4k OLED running todays date.

I swear that you guys operate on OUTDATED knowledge like stupid fucks. Do you also leave TRFC + TREFI at auto too? What about >>106421542

>>106421462
actually FSR4 is transformer model which is what allowed them to basically catch up to almost be as good as DLSS 4.
the old DLSS neural network processed parts of the frame and the transformer model processes the entire frame.

>>106421566
If I had to game on 1080p, 1440p, 4k I'd still buy 9070 xt instead. the 1% lows are much better than nvidias equivalent also the drivers on windows+linux are superior. this applies to every game because pixel fillrate > king, go read gpu-z.

>>106421573
werks on my machine is not a good argument

>>106421585
Nigga todays information is better than spouting "ts worlds better than last gen 7900xtx that idled at 130W with mismatched dual monitors because amd sucked at programming their display profiles then" from 5 years ago

>>106421582
>the 1% lows are much better than nvidias equivalent
according to what testing using dozen + games with upscalers?

Is the 5060ti really worth the extra 80 bucks over the 9060XT?

>>106421623
nah
you should get 5070 instead

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>>106414554
Day3 FAFO'ing with G80SD

>Bought a new USB-C -> DP Cable this time Dp1.4/8k 60/hbr3, dsc, hdcp 2.2/32.40Gbps whatever
>Plug in
>Instantly recognized by laptop and now working
>can run 4k240hz RGB 10Bit again
>cable too damn expensive will try to find a cheaper one though
>also bought a DP female -> USB-C adapter might try it also
>Now wait and see if screen black screening ever and can handle the bandwidth or whatever bullshit people have been saying
>probability of keeping monitor increasing
To be continued

>>106421623
Hell no.
I'm no amdrone but the 9060XT is easily the best card for that price. If you are going to spend more get the 5070 minimum.

>>106421628
have you tried watching 4k hdr porn yet

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>>106421607
It's just your daily Radeon coping.
9070 XT's 1% lows aren't "much better" than the regular 5070.

>pixel fillrate > king
Radeon GPUs have to do more to perform about the same as a 5070 TI, brag about your inefficient GPU.
I swear these Radeon shills are sick in the head.
>'Radeon cards scale better with SAM/Rebar!'
It just means Radeon GPUs have far more on-die cache misses than GeForce GPUs.

>>106421623
5060ti all day
the green team has;
>DLSS 4.0
>DLSS Ray Reconstruction
>DLDSR
>RTX Remix
>RTX HDR
amd is for poo smelling poor people who just want the cheap option

intel core and amd radeon is the ultimate combo

>>106421632
they release that shit in HDR? never seen it

anyway, I think I might just have experienced a black screen, but fuck idk if it was the screen turning off due to auto shut off
getting schizophrenic now

>>106420840
>pcbg is filled with normies that dont even know about optiscaler
yawn

>>106421771
>he needs a 3rd party tool for his gpu to work correctly

>>106421723
Shan't be buying AMD Ra-ZION GPUs when the equivalent Nvidia is 100-200 euro cheaper over here

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>>106421826
Because Radeon still can't get enough developers on board.
https://www.amd.com/en/products/graphics/technologies/fidelityfx/supported-games.html

>>106421826
>he needs msi afterburner to power limit his gpu
this is what your dumbass message sounded like to me, literally what is wrong with 3rd party tools you fucking tech illiterate monkey? even fan control programs are used around the world
go fuck yourself normie that knows nothing about technology, fuck off to /v/ you dont belong here

Why does anyone even care about frame generation? Input delay and ghosting are the worst fucking things in the world. I've tried FSR/DLSS and even XeSS and they all look like and play like shit. If it doesn't run natively, fuck off with your fake frame bullshit. I will not accept even a 10ms input delay when gaming. The average consumer is niggercattle for accepting this.

>>106421846
literally where do you live? the 9070 xt is 50 usd cheaper than the 5070 ti and 200 usd cheaper than the 5080 yet performs only 5% worse than the 5080
thats only in the us, in other places the 5080 is more than 500 usd more expensive

>>106421904
you're brown

>>106421904
DLSS improves response time. Frame gen is digital aids.

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>>106421904
You are part of the cattle, even if you don't use the features you paid for (yes, you paid for them).
When you buy any modern GPU, you're funding the development of more performant RT, upscaling, & frame generation.

>>106421926
frame gen is fine if you're base fps is at least 120

>>106421902
Except you don't have to set a power or fan profile on a per-game basis like you have to do with Optiscalar.

>>106421902
no need for that when asus gpu tweak III is a first party tool that works well

>>106421904
You already lost
cry all you want your fake anger don't matter when you still fork over the cash for a new GPU.

Or just use your 1080TI forever

>>106421914
9070XT according to benchmarks I've looked as is 5070 tier and costs as much as the 5070 Ti

>>106422063
It's a $600 GPU but they want to pay $800 for it

>>106421902
you know what you sound like? the amd ryzen fanboys who defended zen, zen+ and zen2 to the death by saying you NEED tuned samsung b-die or you're not using ryzen correctly
community hacks and support isn't and cannot be a replacement for proper 1st party support

>>106422070
$600 was never the intended price for the 9070 XT; AMD offered that launch pricing to give it a more positive reception, and it worked.
That's why the launch was delayed around 2~3 months to renegotiate the pricing/rebates with retailers & board partners.
https://youtu.be/z1qPRX1N4IU?t=1804

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bros when are they gonna make an announcement about the super edition cards?

>>106422108
You won't find any near MSRP.

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>>106422114
i don't see how that answers my question

>>106422121
You'll be asking when those RTX 50 Super cards will be available at/near MSRP.

>>106422108
november, december or maybe even ces in january

Through unforseen circumstances, I have 2 different corsair ram kits
vengeance 64gb 6000mhz cl 30
dominator titanium 64gb 6000mhz cl 30

they are literally the exact same and now i want to use both of them together on an x870-e board. does amd shit still suck at populating all dimms, or can i just do 128gb 6000 cl 30 no problems?

>>106422170
by exact same i mean even down to the sub timings btw

>>106422170
>vengeance 64gb 6000mhz cl 30
I had one of those and returned it because it had terrible voltage scaling and got unstable really quickly

>>106422170
the more slots you fill the slower the ram speed will be. 4 slots usually mean 5600mhz at 1:1 or decoupling to run higher mhz at a latency penalty.

the difference between the kits is probably a-die vs m-die. a-die is better and the only way you can tell is if it boots with trfc under 400. m-die cant do that.

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>>106422108
Some rumors say it'll launch by the end of this year, so expect an announcement by October or November at the earliest.
There should be some packaging, production, & customs-related leaks about these cards if they are going to launch in Q4' 25.

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>>106422170
Answering my own question:

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/explorer/diy-builder/memory/can-i-mix-corsair-memory-kits/

Considering how fragile am5 is i think i will just use one set and probably sell the other on reddit or some shit

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>AMD Ryzen 9000 desktop ready
Does this mean I don't need to update the BIOS for 9000 CPU?

>>106422270
Yes, later revisions of motherboards ship with already updated bios versions. But it can be confusing. Sometimes they will update nothing and just put a sticker on old boxes and ship it out lol but that's not all that common. Manufacture date will tell you for sure. If it was made after 9000 launched it'll be updated.

>>106422270
If you're buying a motherboard today then it has a BIOS from this year so yeah

>>106422312
they dont update it after its left the factory. these boards are updated in asus' factory and has a white label pasted next to the socket showing the board revision and factory bios version installed

>>106422312
>>106422314
Thanks senpai I bought it last week. It has bios flashback so not a big deal but believe it or not I don't have any empty usb drive laying around. Can you find manufacturing date on the box?

>>106422351
it'll be on the board see >>106422346

>>106422351
>Can you find manufacturing date on the box?
There should be a sticker with the serial number for that exact board, it should include manufacturing date info & the BIOS version.

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>>106422351
they dont tell you the manufacturing date. it's obscured behind the board revision (e.g. A01, A02 etc.) and SKU code like in picrel printed on the sticker pasted on the box

FRESH OFF THE PRESSES
NEW X870E BIOS FOR ASUS HAS DROPPED
https://rog.asus.com/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-x870e-e-gaming-wifi/helpdesk_bios/
I REPEAT
NEW X870E BIOS FOR ASUS HAS DROPPED
UPDATE YER BIOS NOW

>>106422391
Searched that part number and according to shitty google AI first available date was January 10, 2024. Am I safe then?

>>106422446
https://www.asus.com/us/support/faq/1044755/
https://www.asus.com/us/motherboards-components/motherboards/tuf-gaming/tuf-gaming-b650-e-wifi/helpdesk_bios?model2Name=TUF-GAMING-B650-E-WIFI

>>106422446
Never mind >>106422346 is correct you can find bios version there and just look up the date on their download site.

>>106422477
Version 2613 or later.
https://www.asus.com/us/motherboards-components/motherboards/tuf-gaming/tuf-gaming-b650-e-wifi/helpdesk_qvl_cpu?model2Name=TUF-GAMING-B650-E-WIFI

UDNA will be crazy good from AMD. Nvidia will have no reasonable counter.

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>>106422572

im too scared that a bios updoot will ruin my fine tunes timings tho.

>>106422584
unless something is broken, dont update

>>106422584
Im fairly sure you have them written down

dont listen to people who dont want you to update, they're trying to get you infected with viruses

I heard the PNY 5070ti has rattling noises. What about the Gigabyte, INNO3D and Palit versions?

>>106422597
the worst bugs are fixed through over the air microcode updates in the OS though

i update my bios and drivers the second it comes out because there is always a laundry list of bugs i am hoping have been fixed

>>106422641
vaxx status?

>>106422655
It's funny you mention the vax. I took the vax and had a whole bunch of complications because of it.

>>106422641
Never updated my bios ever never have any issue if I don't actively looking for it. I don't buy day 1 batch mobos though.

>>106422063
the 9070XT is 20% faster than the 5070, are you sure you weren't looking at 9070 benchmarks?

>>106422666
Yeah well unfortunately being an early adopter in the current year means you are also an alpha tester. This year with the 50 series has been a hellish nightmare for me.

>>106422661
you'd think that would teach you a thing or two about the repercussions of hasty actions based on unfounded fear

>>106422661
What kind of complication? I got some thicc eyes floaters since I got 2 booster vax but my (((doctor))) told me it had nothing to do with the vaf.

>>106422696
The vax = driver analogy doesn't work though because drivers have unironically fixed at least 15 of my issues this year. The vax just gave me Lupus and a blood condition that I now have to get treated for for the rest of my life.

>>106422706
The name is Thrombotic Thrombocytopenic Purpura or TPP for short. My immune system basically said fuck you and tried to nuke all of the platelets in my blood like a week after I took the vaccine. Was in the hospital for like 5 months.

>>106422718
that sucks dude. hope you're alright
for me the only adverse reaction i got was a small bout of shingles that went away after awhile

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>>106422597
i do have. im gonna do it! ahhhhh! im updooting!

>>106422737
I'm fine now. I just need to get 2 infusions every 6 months for the rest of my life so it doesn't happen again. The fun part is that the medicine used in the infusion costs $20,000 without insurance . Luckily my insurance covers all of it (for now).

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I'm unvaxed, and don't know anyone else in real life who got it. What type of computer would someone like me want to build.

Swappeb my mt7927 card for a mt7925.
WiFi works, but BT works partially.
Fuck em chinks, shouldve bought a qualcomm card

>>106422755
Lucky for you Im a blood donor (type O). Im gay btw.

>>106422756
A skylake based system with mitigations=off running linux 4.10 in current year

>>106422756
nintendo switch 2

>>106422584
BIOS update ruining your RAM overclock sounds like a myth
more than likely you weren't stable in the first place
it's the same as people that say driver updates made their undervolt unstable, no, you never stress tested it properly

>>106422784
based

>>106422781
>i possibly have gay people blood flowing through my veins right now
I never thought about this before. This is terrible news.

>>106422796
every single time I updated bios it resets it
thats going to ruin any ram oc

>>106422807
yeah so just put it back in again lmao

>>106422807
you can export your bios settings as a text file and put them back in after you update your bios. it's not wise to export actual bios profiles tho, because you might mess something up if there were significant changes

>>106422744
well 6400 didnt last more than a few minuts before even at 2/1. definitly not at 1.2 SOC.
is updooting actually good?

>>106422806
just don't get blood transfusions if that's a concern

>>106420314
Nice. Either going all AMD this gen or waiting.

>>106422806
Isnt Lupus the opposite of aids that your immune system being too aggressive? Some aids would balance it out.

>>106421904
>Input delay and ghosting are the worst fucking things in the world
With DLSS FG neither of those are an issue as long as your base framerate is high enough. FSR framegen, smooth motion, lossless + the other generic interpolation offerings are pretty ass. It's like comparing FSR1/2/3 to DLSS
>10ms
lucky for you it's usually not that high even starting from 40ish fps with 2x
I have yet to see someone do a deep dive so I have no actual hard proof but it does seem that Blackwell handles 2x framegen better than ada.

>>106422846
someone needs to make a guide on AIDSmaxxing for optimal blood performance

>>106422846
They actually use modified HIV to treat some forms of Lupus

>>106422806
Im an incel though don't worry.

>>106422806
its actually illegal for gays to donate blood so dont worry
only few sickos hide their sexual orientation to donate hiv blood and they do occasional tests on the blood to see if theres stds

>>106422902
They screen all blood for pathogens anyway so 90 year old billionaires only get the cleanest adrenochrome

>>106422941
pretty sure they have their own private source of virgin blood for this kind of thing

>>106422902
Not in many EU countries they just say they haven't had sex for a while. No way to prove.
https://www.ilga-europe.org/blog/countries-end-discrimination-blood-donation/

>>106422846
If you're a woman you have a high chance of having a miscarriage.

>>106422661
But which one of the multiple vax?

>>106422965
If I got a disease from blood donation because some jewish group pushed for less stigmatization I would expect every nurse, doctor and member who is complicit to get forcefully injected with aidsnigger blood

>>106422971
As opposed to the low low chance of a man having a miscarriage?
>>>/lgbt/

>>106422989
They're now pushing to remove abstinence rules and it's enough to just say they're monogamous/use protection. Slippery slope is real.

>>106422982
Was the Pfizer one. If you google “Pfizer vaccine caused TTP” you will find a lot medical articles. None of my doctors can say for certain that it was the vax though for obvious reasons, and it’s possible that if I had gotten Covid the same thing would’ve happened.

>>106423050
>same thing would’ve happened
You probably wouldn't. The vax is a gene therapy that rewrites your body into a toxin factory

>>106423050
So like some genetical predisposition? It happens with some diseases.

>>106421958
Yea, but what is the point then?

>>106423067
Your body is already a toxin factory, thats why you have a lymphatic system, kidneys, lungs, a liver

>>106423013
Why is that board total tranny death central? Not even /pol/ is hate trannies that much.

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>>106423133
They're fucking freaks, half of pol are also fucking brown freaks.

>>106423094
My friend was telling me that it’s possible for Lupus to be dormant most of your life and then be triggered by an mrna vaccine or other external factors, so maybe. I didn’t have Lupus before all this happened so I’ve just accepted that explanation and moved on.

Anyway this is all very off topic. Let’s get back to brand warring and shitting on intel

Make a new thread already

>>106423132
yeah but it doesnt make manmade toxins before 2021

>>106423156
>Let’s get back to brand warring and shitting on intel
Based

>>106423133
its kinda like how rich folk who can live in gated communities and put their kids in private christian schools are really tolerant of immigrants and blacks but white trasah who have to live on the front lines interacting with the underisables hate them more due to exposure

>>106423156
Legend

>>106423156
>shitting on intel
cool it with the antisemitism

>>106423156
Did you hear how Trump owns 10% of intel now
Trump also appointed jfk relative as health advocate or something, he got really into health topics after a bunch of women complained that a vaccine caused autism or something in their children.
Apparently the theory was that the vaccines have mercury and other things that intentionally flare up the immune system so they recognize the disease vector the vaccine carries more efficiently, and this mercury poisoning led to autism.

>>106423156
you shout the fuck up now that patriots are back in control nova lake is a for sure win that'll put amd niggers back int there playces.

This is getting sad..
https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-cfo-admits-arrow-lake-missed-expecations-we-didnt-have-a-good-offering-this-year-pins-hopes-on-nova-lake

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>>106422828
whoa 6800 never even posted before. its gonna be a good 5 days off i tell ya what. thanks >>106422597
fuck you >>106422796
i hope you arent the same anon..

>>106423301
> high end desktop market
HEDT is Xeon/Threadripper shit so why he's written that entire article about X3D is retarded

>>106423333
the bios updates fixes bugs
whether they impact ram OC is incidental

>>106423333
>fuck you
lol why
you're misunderstanding my post, BIOS updates can certainly *improve* your overclock
i know, i owned a 1700X, some memory ratios didn't even exist on the early BIOS
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AGESA 1007B came out a while ago but that got AM5 from like 6600 to 8000+ (in 2:1 mode ofc)